Latest / Foul Territory / Tim Kurkjian’s season observations
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- 0:00Speaker 1: These crazy things happen. You've got to give Brandon Hyde
- 0:03Speaker 1: and Rockerball Delli and a few others a little more time.
- 0:13Speaker 2: All right, we're getting ready to join be joined by
- 0:15Speaker 2: Tim Kirchen, the Great Tim Kirchen, who I don't know
- 0:18Speaker 2: that there's anybody that loves this beautiful sport of ours
- 0:20Speaker 2: more than Tim. And at anytime he starts to laugh,
- 0:23Speaker 2: it just makes me laugh because his laugh is infectious,
- 0:25Speaker 2: his knowledge is unbelievable. He's one of the good ones
- 0:28Speaker 2: out there. The twenty twenty two BBWAA Career Excellence Award
- 0:33Speaker 2: winner Analyst of course for ESPN, author of three books,
- 0:37Speaker 2: and the host with his son the great? Is it
- 0:40Speaker 2: a great game or what?
- 0:41Speaker 1: With his son?
- 0:42Speaker 2: I love it, Tim Kirchin, Welcome to the show. The
- 0:45Speaker 2: backwards hat just like krats. I'm not sure what we're
- 0:49Speaker 2: doing with this, look like look at you and AJ
- 0:52Speaker 2: and I love it.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Tim, Tim, you got to work for Fox to wear this.
- 0:55Speaker 3: You can't.
- 0:56Speaker 4: ESPN doesn't allow you to wear your hat backwards. You
- 0:58Speaker 4: have to work for Fox to wear your hat back
- 1:00Speaker 4: Just saying.
- 1:01Speaker 1: I am sixty eight years old and I can honestly
- 1:03Speaker 1: say this is the first time I have ever worn
- 1:06Speaker 1: a hat backwards in my life, but I did it
- 1:09Speaker 1: as a tribute to AJ and to Cratzy here, and
- 1:12Speaker 1: I look ridiculous in it, so I'm going to take
- 1:15Speaker 1: it off now. By the way, this is my WJ
- 1:19Speaker 1: hat Walter Johnson High School. That's where I went to
- 1:23Speaker 1: high school in Bethesda, Maryland, named after the greatest pitcher
- 1:27Speaker 1: of all time. If you can see, I'm also wearing
- 1:29Speaker 1: my Walter Johnson Flees pullover. It's eighty five degrees today,
- 1:36Speaker 1: but I just wanted to be a part of the show,
- 1:38Speaker 1: so I wore my hat backwards. It will never happen again.
- 1:42Speaker 5: Is wearing your hat? Is wearing your hat backwards disrespectful?
- 1:47Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's that my forehead looks like a
- 1:51Speaker 1: five head now because I've got so old, and by
- 1:55Speaker 1: wearing a hat backwards, I might lose even more hair.
- 1:59Speaker 1: It's the only reason I don't listen. You gotta be cool.
- 2:02Speaker 1: You have to be cool to wear your hat backwards.
- 2:05Speaker 1: And you guys are really cool, hon, It's really cool.
- 2:09Speaker 1: I'm the least cool guy in the whole world. I'm
- 2:12Speaker 1: so square, I'm divisible by four, so I'm out of
- 2:15Speaker 1: the conversation. When it comes to that, I think.
- 2:18Speaker 2: You're one of the coolest guys I know, Tim, I
- 2:20Speaker 2: really do. I love your infectious joy for the game,
- 2:24Speaker 2: and I love the fact that you're doing this pod
- 2:26Speaker 2: with your son. Great game or what what made you?
- 2:28Speaker 2: As you say, you're an old school guy, not cool,
- 2:32Speaker 2: but you're into the podcast game and you're doing it
- 2:34Speaker 2: with your boy. What have you enjoyed about that?
- 2:37Speaker 1: Well, it's been great because it's a baseball podcast. But
- 2:40Speaker 1: my son, Jeff, doesn't know that much about baseball, which
- 2:44Speaker 1: is great because I don't know anything about anything else
- 2:48Speaker 1: other than basketball and sitcoms from the sixties. So any
- 2:52Speaker 1: sort of pop culture, musical reference, anything that where you
- 2:56Speaker 1: have to fix something, anything that's really cool. He can
- 2:59Speaker 1: answer all of the questions and if they ask me
- 3:02Speaker 1: a baseball question, hopefully I can answer that. Also, he
- 3:06Speaker 1: is a wizard a magician at technology, so and I'm
- 3:10Speaker 1: the worst of all time at that. So when something
- 3:13Speaker 1: goes wrong, I drive to Philadelphia almost every week to
- 3:18Speaker 1: tape the podcast just so I'm in the same room
- 3:21Speaker 1: with him. In case something goes wrong with the technology,
- 3:25Speaker 1: he can fix it. There is no scarier feeling for
- 3:28Speaker 1: me to be five foot four and a half and
- 3:30Speaker 1: something goes wrong with the technology at.
- 3:33Speaker 5: Home, and you're so close to my house when you
- 3:35Speaker 5: get there too, So sometime we're going to have to
- 3:38Speaker 5: have lunch. That's fair.
- 3:39Speaker 1: No, no, it's already planned, Kratsey. You are coming to
- 3:43Speaker 1: skip back to my son's basement. We are going to
- 3:47Speaker 1: do a podcast in person, the three of us, and
- 3:52Speaker 1: it's going to be a blast because you live like
- 3:54Speaker 1: ten minutes from where my son lives.
- 3:56Speaker 5: It's great, I do And if something goes wrong with
- 3:59Speaker 5: your phone, we'll make sure it's taken care of. What
- 4:01Speaker 5: are you watching right now? What do you see? What
- 4:04Speaker 5: do you like in the game right now? That's going
- 4:06Speaker 5: on this season, the short short you know, twenty twenty
- 4:10Speaker 5: five games that they've played so far.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Well as always, my favorite thing about baseball is this
- 4:15Speaker 1: ridiculous unpredictability. Just look at all the bizarre things that
- 4:20Speaker 1: have already happened, all the first time things that have
- 4:24Speaker 1: already happened. Just this is a tiny thing, but this
- 4:27Speaker 1: just happened. The other night. Ben Rice hit a lead
- 4:30Speaker 1: off home run for the Yankees, So he's the fourth
- 4:34Speaker 1: different Yankee this year to hit a lead off homer
- 4:38Speaker 1: in a game. No team has ever had four of
- 4:41Speaker 1: those guys do it before the month of May, but
- 4:44Speaker 1: the Yankees did it. And about a hundred other things
- 4:47Speaker 1: have happened this year that just make you slap your forehead, like,
- 4:50Speaker 1: how in the world did that happen? How can so
- 4:54Speaker 1: and so team be this good? How can the Orioles
- 4:58Speaker 1: be six games under five? This is why baseball is
- 5:02Speaker 1: so beautiful. Is it's too good to be predicted. Just
- 5:06Speaker 1: when we think we understand what's going on, we recognize
- 5:09Speaker 1: that we don't, because that's the way the game demands it.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Tim, I saw a thing speaking of that, who's the
- 5:17Speaker 4: guy that has broken up eighty one no hitters with
- 5:19Speaker 4: a home run?
- 5:20Speaker 3: You should know this answer.
- 5:22Speaker 1: The guy that has broken up eighty one different no
- 5:26Speaker 1: hitters with a home Runju, this is a trick question.
- 5:30Speaker 1: It has to be.
- 5:33Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. I figured you would get that like that.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Come on, that was very good, aj I didn't think
- 5:39Speaker 1: your mind worked like that. Yes, he led us the
- 5:42Speaker 1: game with a home run eighty I believe it's eighty
- 5:45Speaker 1: two different times. Not the point, but yes, you're absolutely right. Gosh,
- 5:50Speaker 1: what again? Stumped by you? Is a really bad day.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Very very good. I'm very apprised.
- 5:56Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell Rosenthal you said. I'm gonna clip that
- 5:58Speaker 4: and just send it to Rosenthal and repeat thank you.
- 6:00Speaker 4: By the way, I can't take cred of it. I
- 6:02Speaker 4: saw it on Twitter X whatever it's called this morning.
- 6:04Speaker 4: I do I do want to ask you. We were
- 6:05Speaker 4: talking before you came on about managers on the hot
- 6:08Speaker 4: seat Rockoball Deli and Brendon Hyde and some other guys.
- 6:13Speaker 4: What do you think about this? It's too early to
- 6:15Speaker 4: be talking about this. I know it's a conversation, but
- 6:17Speaker 4: isn't it too early to be talking about this?
- 6:20Speaker 1: Yeah, this is probably my least favorite question that I'm
- 6:23Speaker 1: ever asked. Who's on the hot seat?
- 6:26Speaker 3: We are?
- 6:26Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten to May yet. Yes, the Orioles
- 6:29Speaker 1: have underachieved terribly, as have the Twins. But for us
- 6:33Speaker 1: to come out and say you got to get rid
- 6:35Speaker 1: of the manager when the Orioles haven't won a game
- 6:39Speaker 1: in which they've scored fewer than five runs this year,
- 6:42Speaker 1: they're the only team that hasn't done that. They have
- 6:45Speaker 1: significant injuries to their starting pitching. They have a subpar
- 6:50Speaker 1: offensive team, which should not be the case, and I'm
- 6:53Speaker 1: just I just don't feel comfortable blaming the manager for
- 6:58Speaker 1: stuff like that. But we do it all the time,
- 7:00Speaker 1: So I'm with you, guys. It's way too early to
- 7:03Speaker 1: say gotta make a change in Baltimore, got to make
- 7:07Speaker 1: a change in Minnesota. You gotta give them a chance.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Look at the Tigers last year. They weren't even a
- 7:12Speaker 1: contender until the middle of August and they won a
- 7:16Speaker 1: playoff series. Strange things can happen that you know. Remember
- 7:20Speaker 1: that the Nationals in twenty nineteen started out nineteen and
- 7:24Speaker 1: thirty one and they won the World Series. These crazy
- 7:28Speaker 1: things happen. You gotta give Brandon Hyde and Rockaball Delli
- 7:33Speaker 1: and a few others a little more time.
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- 8:37Speaker 5: All right, you like crazy things? Can you believe? And
- 8:40Speaker 5: what do you think of it? That we've been playing
- 8:43Speaker 5: not one, but two minor league stadiums in Major League
- 8:48Speaker 5: Baseball this year?
- 8:50Speaker 1: You know, twenty years ago, Bud Ceiling, the General, i mean,
- 8:53Speaker 1: the Commissioner of Baseball told me we've got to do
- 8:57Speaker 1: something about Tampa Bay and Oakland.
- 8:59Speaker 3: We have to.
- 9:00Speaker 1: That was twenty years ago, and here it is twenty
- 9:04Speaker 1: years later and we're still not sure what to do
- 9:07Speaker 1: with the A's and the Rays. Let's hope the A's
- 9:10Speaker 1: will play three years in Sacramento and have a seamless
- 9:13Speaker 1: transition and be a really effective team and a good
- 9:18Speaker 1: team in Las Vegas, but we're not one hundred percent
- 9:21Speaker 1: sure that's gonna happen, and we have to be we
- 9:25Speaker 1: have to get a game plan for the Rays. And
- 9:27Speaker 1: this thought of us expanding right now, it just doesn't
- 9:31Speaker 1: make any sense to me, not until we solidify where
- 9:35Speaker 1: the Rays and where the A's are playing and make
- 9:37Speaker 1: sure they are a you know, franchises that are going
- 9:42Speaker 1: to work, before we do anything else. It is bizarre
- 9:45Speaker 1: that we're playing not one, but two teams in a
- 9:48Speaker 1: minor league ballpark almost every night, and it's hard.
- 9:51Speaker 2: To see empty stadiums in terms of fan bases there too,
- 9:55Speaker 2: tim with the A's and of the Rays where they
- 9:58Speaker 2: don't have that problems home with the me and home
- 10:00Speaker 2: with the Padres. Why are those two teams right now,
- 10:03Speaker 2: with the start that they've gotten off to, why are
- 10:05Speaker 2: they believable? And is this sustainable for both of those clubs?
- 10:09Speaker 1: Yeah, both are sustainable. Both are believable. Look, this is
- 10:14Speaker 1: not a great start by the Mets. The Mets have
- 10:17Speaker 1: been really good basically since June last year. I covered
- 10:21Speaker 1: that game in England last year when they won on
- 10:24Speaker 1: that bizarre two to three double play where Luis Trenz
- 10:29Speaker 1: touched home, played through to first for the double play
- 10:31Speaker 1: to end a one run game. That play had never
- 10:34Speaker 1: happened in the history of baseball. Not even AJ made
- 10:38Speaker 1: a play like that in a in the last out,
- 10:41Speaker 1: last two outs of a game. There is something special
- 10:44Speaker 1: going on with the Mets. I sensed it, believe it
- 10:47Speaker 1: or not. When I was in England, I said, this
- 10:49Speaker 1: team stinks and they have it togetherness that I'm not
- 10:52Speaker 1: sure I've ever seen for a team that is bad.
- 10:55Speaker 1: When they won that game, they picked up steam. They
- 10:57Speaker 1: played great down the stretch. They were amazing in October.
- 11:01Speaker 1: So they're believable. And they haven't even started to hit yet.
- 11:04Speaker 1: I mean, other than the leadoff guy and the cleanup guy.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And I'm amazed. They're starting pitching as bit as good
- 11:10Speaker 1: as it's been, so I'm not sure that's going to
- 11:13Speaker 1: continue in the rotation. They got to get some people healthy.
- 11:16Speaker 6: As for the Padres, they got seven shutouts. They're the
- 11:19Speaker 6: first team ever to have seven shutouts before the month
- 11:24Speaker 6: of May. Look at their bullpen, the power arms that
- 11:28Speaker 6: they pour out of that pen, and look at the
- 11:30Speaker 6: talented everyday lineup that they have, and wait till Jackson
- 11:33Speaker 6: Merrill who gets back one hundred percent.
- 11:35Speaker 1: They are both sustainable. They are both exceptionally dangerous teams.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Tim I was in London last year also, and I
- 11:42Speaker 4: saw Philly hammer on the day before. So why can't
- 11:44Speaker 4: Philly be hot? Why has it got your Mets Homer?
- 11:46Speaker 4: I get it, that's cool. But is this their window?
- 11:50Speaker 4: Is this their window for Philly? Is it closing because
- 11:53Speaker 4: Sharver free agent, Real Muto free agent, another y're on Nola,
- 11:55Speaker 4: another y're on Wheeler? Is this their window? Do they
- 12:00Speaker 4: have to get it done this year? Because is it
- 12:02Speaker 4: kind of shrinking a little bit?
- 12:04Speaker 1: It is shrinking, no doubt. But you can't say if
- 12:07Speaker 1: they don't win this year, that's it, They're done. But yes,
- 12:09Speaker 1: the Phillies are really good. When I went into when
- 12:13Speaker 1: I looked at the standings going in, I said, the
- 12:16Speaker 1: Phillies have the second best team in baseball to the Dodgers.
- 12:19Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the year. I'm
- 12:21Speaker 1: going to be thinking the same way that rotation is
- 12:24Speaker 1: tremendous as soon as Aaron Nola gets things figured out,
- 12:27Speaker 1: which he will. But yes, the Phillies recognized we've been
- 12:31Speaker 1: a disappointment a bit in the last couple of years.
- 12:33Speaker 1: It's time to go, and I fully expect them to
- 12:36Speaker 1: be a really good offensive team. And very few teams
- 12:40Speaker 1: pitch better out of the rotation than the Phillies did.
- 12:43Speaker 5: How about the Braves. Have they just not gotten their
- 12:46Speaker 5: shipment of torpedo bats yet? Is that their issue?
- 12:50Speaker 1: Well, that's gonna have to happen now they've finally gotten
- 12:52Speaker 1: hot here. There's absolutely no way they were going to
- 12:55Speaker 1: struggle that badly. But they got their work cut out
- 12:58Speaker 1: for them in a division of cour with the Mets
- 13:00Speaker 1: and the Phillies. The ron Lecunya news is not great
- 13:04Speaker 1: that we're not sure when he's coming back and what's
- 13:06Speaker 1: he gonna be Like Specer Stryder comes back, throws one
- 13:10Speaker 1: hundred and then goes back on the injured list. That
- 13:12Speaker 1: wasn't a good sign. But I refuse to give up
- 13:15Speaker 1: on the Braves this early because I've seen them bounce
- 13:18Speaker 1: back from other adversity and be really good. I expect
- 13:22Speaker 1: them to be really close, if not a playoff team
- 13:26Speaker 1: at the end of the year.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Tim I never cut out the Braves, and nobody obviously
- 13:29Speaker 2: counts out the Los Angeles Dodgers. Last year they won
- 13:31Speaker 2: the World Series piecemealing together a starting rotation. This year,
- 13:35Speaker 2: I thought they had more depth than the starting rotation,
- 13:37Speaker 2: but they've scuffled as of late. Lake Snell's not coming
- 13:40Speaker 2: back for a time. Obviously, Kershaw's coming back. Gonsolin will
- 13:43Speaker 2: come back. Do they have enough depth? I know that
- 13:46Speaker 2: sounds silly with the payroll and the signings, but do
- 13:49Speaker 2: they have enough to repeat?
- 13:51Speaker 1: I think they do. I would take the field because
- 13:55Speaker 1: I think there are that many good teams, especially in
- 13:58Speaker 1: the National League. But if you're asked me, who do
- 14:00Speaker 1: I think is the best team in baseball and will
- 14:03Speaker 1: be the best team in October? I think it will
- 14:05Speaker 1: be the Dodgers. But you're right along, and we already
- 14:08Speaker 1: have an injury to a top flight starting pitcher and
- 14:11Speaker 1: not let's not forget in the l In the NLCS
- 14:15Speaker 1: last year, they used an opener twice, and then they
- 14:18Speaker 1: used an opener once in the World Series, and they
- 14:21Speaker 1: still won, which is amazing. If they can get everyone
- 14:25Speaker 1: healthy in that rotation, they are going to be a absolute
- 14:28Speaker 1: nightmare for most teams in October. And the depth in
- 14:31Speaker 1: their in their everyday lineup is is just as good
- 14:35Speaker 1: as as it is in their starting rotation when everyone
- 14:38Speaker 1: is right.
- 14:41Speaker 3: Tim who has more.
- 14:43Speaker 4: Knowledge numbers you or audities, maybe you or Jason Stark.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Uh Well, Jason Starr taught me where to look now,
- 14:52Speaker 1: truth be told, I was looking for this stuff when
- 14:55Speaker 1: I was eight years old. That's how clueless of a
- 14:57Speaker 1: young kid I was. I had like two things in
- 15:00Speaker 1: the world I was interested in, so I was coming
- 15:03Speaker 1: up with the all food team and the All money
- 15:05Speaker 1: team when I was in junior high school. Jason is
- 15:09Speaker 1: the best I've ever seen at it. He taught me
- 15:12Speaker 1: where to look and how to find things. I've gotten
- 15:15Speaker 1: pretty good at it because I love all the stupid, quirky,
- 15:19Speaker 1: funny things that happened, all the pointless, useless things that happened.
- 15:23Speaker 1: But he's the best ever, and he taught me how
- 15:25Speaker 1: to do it as well as anyone could.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Who went in the Hall of Fame first or sorry,
- 15:30Speaker 3: the Career Excellence Award you.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Jason went in first, as he should have, and I
- 15:36Speaker 1: mentioned him in my Hall of Fame speech along with
- 15:40Speaker 1: Dan Shaughnessy and Peter Gammons, because those were the three
- 15:43Speaker 1: biggest mentors among the many mentors that I had in
- 15:47Speaker 1: the business.
- 15:49Speaker 4: Is that the biggest hold on you is that the
- 15:51Speaker 4: biggest award as a writer for baseball writer is that award?
- 15:56Speaker 1: Yeah? Of course, So if I may tell you a story.
- 15:59Speaker 1: So I won the award, and the next morning, Johnny Bench,
- 16:03Speaker 1: Johnny Bench, the greatest catcher of all time, called me
- 16:08Speaker 1: on the phone to congratulate me. He said, congratulations, Tim,
- 16:12Speaker 1: welcome to the club. You're one of us now. And
- 16:16Speaker 1: I almost started to cry again. And then he said, Tim,
- 16:20Speaker 1: you know it's moments like this that bring you back
- 16:22Speaker 1: to Little League. And now I'm ready to just cry
- 16:26Speaker 1: out loud, and he says, and let's face it, Tim,
- 16:28Speaker 1: you could still fit into a Little League uniform. Thanks
- 16:33Speaker 1: a lot, Johnny, good talking to you. I appreciate the call. Yes,
- 16:38Speaker 1: it was the biggest scrill of my of my professional life.
- 16:41Speaker 1: There will not be a close second. Although working with
- 16:43Speaker 1: my son on this podcast has been really, really cool
- 16:47Speaker 1: and really special.
- 16:49Speaker 5: That is an unbelievable story that he's still added the
- 16:52Speaker 5: jab in there at the end when he almost had
- 16:55Speaker 5: you at tears. So I'm gonna add a I'm going
- 16:58Speaker 5: to add a jab in. We were talking about good
- 16:59Speaker 5: tear Tames. Let's talk about the Marlins. They're close to
- 17:03Speaker 5: five hundred team and they don't want to be The
- 17:07Speaker 5: front office does not want to win. What do you
- 17:10Speaker 5: see happening with the future of this team this season?
- 17:14Speaker 5: Considering if al Contra gets better and he starts to
- 17:19Speaker 5: pitch better, he's gonna leave.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's gonna be a fascinating story there. I'm sorry.
- 17:25Speaker 1: I just don't see this keeping up and then being
- 17:29Speaker 1: an above five hundred team and a contending team for
- 17:33Speaker 1: the whole season. So they may take the ace and
- 17:36Speaker 1: deal him because they're gonna get a king's ransom for
- 17:40Speaker 1: him right now, because he's still really good and now's
- 17:44Speaker 1: the time to deal him. But it's gonna be really
- 17:46Speaker 1: interesting if they continue to win, how are they gonna
- 17:50Speaker 1: justify trading not only their best pitcher but one of
- 17:53Speaker 1: the best pitchers in the game. But if they're in
- 17:56Speaker 1: a complete rebuild, which it appears they are, then I
- 17:59Speaker 1: think at the end of July the best thing to
- 18:02Speaker 1: do would be to trade him, get a absolute haul
- 18:06Speaker 1: in return, and continue to rebuild at a very high level.
- 18:13Speaker 2: Tim, I just want to before we let you go,
- 18:15Speaker 2: I wanted to extend my condolences again for the passing
- 18:19Speaker 2: of your brother, obviously who passed of ALS. But I
- 18:22Speaker 2: know that you have been so instrumental in ALS awareness,
- 18:25Speaker 2: and of course you work with Sarah Langs, who's battling
- 18:28Speaker 2: Luke Gyrig's disease right now. So I didn't want to
- 18:30Speaker 2: let you go without an opportunity for you to talk
- 18:32Speaker 2: about that and in terms of any efforts or a
- 18:34Speaker 2: way that we might be able to help you.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're working on it because I'm very much
- 18:41Speaker 1: a part of this now. I'll tell you, Cratzy Aj,
- 18:44Speaker 1: if you knew my brother, boy boy, you would have
- 18:46Speaker 1: loved him. He was such a good college baseball player.
- 18:49Speaker 1: He's only a little bit bigger than I was, and
- 18:52Speaker 1: the way he played the game all out, weigh one
- 18:56Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five pounds major league throwing arm when
- 18:59Speaker 1: he was at Catholic. You university guys on their team
- 19:02Speaker 1: would tell you if we had nine Matt Kirchins on
- 19:04Speaker 1: our team, we'd never lose a game. And they have it.
- 19:08Speaker 1: They have an award named after my brother, the Matt
- 19:11Speaker 1: Kirchin Ultimate Teammate Award at Catholic University that is awarded
- 19:16Speaker 1: to the senior that is the best teammate on the team.
- 19:20Speaker 1: So in honor of my brother, whatever it takes to
- 19:24Speaker 1: spread the word and to help the cause against this
- 19:27Speaker 1: wretched disease, you can count me in. We appreciate that
- 19:32Speaker 1: very much.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Where's Catholic University.
- 19:36Speaker 1: It's in downtown d C. And my two brothers played there.
- 19:41Speaker 1: My oldest brother, Andy, a catcher. What position did you
- 19:44Speaker 1: guys play? My brother Andy was maybe the best player
- 19:49Speaker 1: ever to play at Catholic University, left handed hitting catcher,
- 19:53Speaker 1: also major league throwing arms, so become. And my dad
- 19:57Speaker 1: was a really good player too. So h baseball family here,
- 20:01Speaker 1: Thank goodness. I don't know anything else. That's for sure.
- 20:07Speaker 3: The oldest brother, it's clearly the smartest Kirchen brother.
- 20:11Speaker 1: By far, the smartest he. I think he got fifteen
- 20:14Speaker 1: thousand on his SATs in high school. And my dad
- 20:19Speaker 1: used to look at me and my other brother and
- 20:21Speaker 1: say he never once said like, what's wrong with you guys?
- 20:24Speaker 1: Why aren't you as smart as your older brother? Because
- 20:26Speaker 1: he recognized, like right away, we're never going to be
- 20:30Speaker 1: as smart as him, as big as him, as good
- 20:32Speaker 1: as him, as handsome as him. We were just completely
- 20:36Speaker 1: below our oldest brother. But never compare the children in
- 20:39Speaker 1: your family, because they're all special on in every certain way.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Life lessons from Tim Kirchin. Tim, we appreciate you very much.
- 20:50Speaker 2: It's it's always a pleasure getting to talk to you.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Thank you very much, all.
- 20:53Speaker 1: Right, thanks for letting me me wear my hat backwards.
- 20:56Speaker 1: That was horrible.
- 20:59Speaker 2: The one knowing Tom, you will see Tim Kirchen in
- 21:01Speaker 2: a backward tat.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Okay,