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- 0:00Welcome to the Downing Arts Podcast.
- 0:08May week is just beginning and there are lots of lovely events for everyone to
- 0:12enjoy, not least the Chapel Choir's annual recital. This evening the Organ
- 0:16Scholars will be directing a mixed program of music by William Bird,
- 0:19Eleanor Daly, Gerald Finzi and many more. Come along to the chapel at 5:30
- 0:23for 45 minutes of choral classics. Admission is free.
- 0:27The DDS production of as yous like it also starts tonight and we'll be hearing
- 0:32from them in just a second or two. Another date for your diary is the
- 0:35Griffin Singer's Barbershop Quartet concert on Friday at 5. Also in the chapel,
- 0:46the Dramatic Society are getting ready for their Shakespeare production opening
- 0:50this evening. And here to talk a bit about it are Lily Ellis and Joe
- 0:53Short. Welcome. Hello. Thank you. So you're going to be performing
- 0:57as yous Like It. Could you tell us a little bit about the show and
- 1:00your take on it? Yeah. So as yous like it is a
- 1:04comedy by Shakespeare written in 1599. So it's
- 1:08just kind of around this 425 year mark.
- 1:11We follow Rosalind and her friend
- 1:16Celia as they enter the Forest of Arden to kind of escape
- 1:20this, I guess, controlling and claustrophobic
- 1:25environment at the court. And kind of in that process, we follow them as
- 1:29an audience in this kind of process of found family.
- 1:33And we're choosing very much to kind of focus because that
- 1:36finding oneself in the forest on this idea of queerness and queer
- 1:41joy and the kind of release, I guess, of that
- 1:44kind of away from this slightly more challenging other
- 1:48environment, if that makes sense. Brilliant. So what are your. You've both
- 1:52got different roles in the production. What are you each doing?
- 1:56So my role is very logistical and sort of sorting out
- 2:01a lot of organizational things, coordinating the
- 2:05team and managing the fundraising side of this
- 2:09production. So we are fundraising for a charity called Mermaids,
- 2:12which supports trans and non binary and gender non conforming young
- 2:17people and their families. And I think we're very
- 2:21passionate about the charity element of this production, especially insofar
- 2:25as it sort of one relates to the creative vision of
- 2:29the show and what we're trying to do with it. And also in
- 2:33the current political climate, it's a time in which charities
- 2:37like these need as much support as possible. But yeah, that's my role.
- 2:41Fantastic. And Jo, what are you. Yes, I'm so I'm
- 2:45directing. I'm doing sort of slightly unusual
- 2:49exercises of my cast, but they've been very patient with me and
- 2:53very giving with their time. I know it's
- 2:58been a really lovely process. We've been rehearsing in the Downing East Lodge Garden,
- 3:02which is this beautiful kind of outdoor lawn.
- 3:06I'm not used to this kind of luxury as a Lucy Cav student, but,
- 3:09yeah, it's been really, really lovely to do. And, yeah, just a lot
- 3:13of conversations about, you know, these. These are characters that are very performative and
- 3:17are aware of the fact that they're very kind of exaggerative, but then also
- 3:21kind of how can we draw out the people under that and how can
- 3:25we kind of, I guess, get across that genuineness and that excitement to kind
- 3:29of be there? Which I think has been especially kind of interesting
- 3:33and challenging, given that a lot of us, you know, obviously very, very close to
- 3:37starting now, and some of us haven't even finished exams. You know, it's all been.
- 3:41It's all been a bit kind of busy, busy. So it's been, you know,
- 3:44to the real credit of the cast, that they've been able to do that.
- 3:47And what are the particular challenges? I mean, Lilly, you've talked
- 3:51about the logistical side of things, I guess, with it being outside. I mean,
- 3:54I remember. What was it you did a couple of years ago? Much Ado about
- 3:57nothing, and we all had to run for cover when it poured with the rain.
- 4:01So how do you were there for that show? Yeah, yeah, I remember them.
- 4:05Yeah. Hiding in the. In the tent or sort of, you know. Yeah. So,
- 4:08I mean, how do you. How do you mitigate for those kind of eventualities?
- 4:12I mean, honestly, it's just about being adaptable.
- 4:15And generally for the last.
- 4:19The past few weeks, we've just been crossing our fingers and hoping and praying
- 4:23for the weather. But, yeah, the. The show you mentioned was a
- 4:27couple of years ago when we did a much do about nothing and the heavens
- 4:30opened halfway through the show. And we all. I mean, luckily, because of the
- 4:35Downing May Ball that year, there was a tent that we all ran to.
- 4:39But yeah, I think when you're performing a play outside, it's just obviously
- 4:44there's not the sort of capacity of like the technical elements of
- 4:48theatre or like the same capacity to sort of build a set and
- 4:52create a world in that way. But Shakespearean comedies
- 4:57very well to this kind of show because often, I mean, in as yous like
- 5:01it, we go off to the forest, often we're in a garden, and so
- 5:05we're sort of able to immerse the audience in
- 5:09the outside sphere. Yeah. Jo, what do you think?
- 5:13Yeah, I think there's a certain amount with any show.
- 5:17Right. Of kind of suspending your disbelief. Obviously, with, like, whether you're not
- 5:21asking people to suspend their disbelief, but certainly you're asking them to be a bit
- 5:25forgiving. But I feel like I've deliberately programmed a couple
- 5:29of beats in the show where we're kind of like, this is
- 5:33a bit. This is a bit rushed. Or this is a bit, you know,
- 5:35kind of. Obviously, it's not literally rushed. It's been delicately rehearsed and well plotted.
- 5:40But it's like, you know, we got a few things that
- 5:43seem a bit roughshod on purpose to kind of, I guess,
- 5:47just get the audience a bit on side, too. As Lily says, this kind of
- 5:51slightly more just kind of going with it thing
- 5:55of performing outside, which has been really fun. But again,
- 5:59there are a lot of things that are normally in your control in a theater
- 6:02that just aren't. So it's both freeing and a little bit terrifying.
- 6:05Yeah. I mean, I find it lovely because you sort of
- 6:09slightly mitigate that audience performer
- 6:13divide because you're not raised up on a stage, the audience aren't sat
- 6:17in the dark, like, everyone can see each other. And it feels a bit more.
- 6:21I don't know, like, we're in more community with each other, which I think is
- 6:24nice. Yeah. The plan is that we're having a kind of semicircular
- 6:30formation towards the top of the garden. So hopefully
- 6:34kind of immersing people as much as possible. And there'll be a break down
- 6:37the middle. And not to spoil too much any of the kind of sort of
- 6:41vague plans for interactivity, but we're hoping we can get some people quite
- 6:46interestingly involved, either vocally or gesturally.
- 6:51So that'll be fun. But no, just kind of. I guess the thing
- 6:55as well is, like, Downing's huge. And specifically the east
- 6:59lodge is way bigger than I thought it was gonna be for some reason in
- 7:02my head. So actually, it's been quite interesting figuring out
- 7:05how we kind of afford that level of intimacy of an audience
- 7:10watching. Cause it's quite a, you know, again, the way we're sort of reinterpreting it
- 7:13slightly. It's kind of a slightly more personal or,
- 7:17you know, internal trajectory that's quite important to a lot of
- 7:21us. So, again, not kind of losing the intimacy of that story in what,
- 7:25like, a huge amount of green space and downing.
- 7:28So it's been interesting to kind of try and figure that out as well.
- 7:31Brilliant. So do you want to just tell us when the show is happening?
- 7:35How can we get tickets? All that kind of Stuff. Okay, so we are performing
- 7:39on Thursday the 19th, Friday the 20th and Saturday
- 7:43the 21st of June at 6 o' clock starting tonight. Starting tonight,
- 7:486pm tonight and on Friday night and then 4pm
- 7:52on Saturday. You can get tickets via Tessera
- 7:56link in the show notes. But yeah, tickets are
- 8:00available. We're donating 90% of our ticket sales
- 8:04to Mermaids, the charity that I mentioned earlier. And yeah, we'd love to
- 8:08see you there, hopefully. Fingers crossed in the sun.
- 8:11Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Brilliant. Well, break a
- 8:15leg as they say and yeah, hope all goes well. Thank you very much.
- 8:19Thank you so much.
- 8:25In the studio with me are the Griffin Singers, Barbershop Quartet.
- 8:29Welcome Dom, George, Harry and Joe. Hello.
- 8:33Great to have you here. So how did you all get together in
- 8:36the first place? Like where did the idea come from for a barbershop quartet?
- 8:40I. My first memory of this being formulated was I myself
- 8:44and George happened to see Sam Ryder, the Eurovision Song Contest winner,
- 8:48on King's Parade and it was on the walk back. I vaguely knew George
- 8:52from. From jazz band, but we hadn't really spoken much. I knew
- 8:57George was a fresher atami and I don't know why, but I must have asked
- 9:00George if he wanted, if he fancied doing a barbershop and I think he was
- 9:04a bit non committal or maybe you said I did well at school. That'd be
- 9:07nice. Well, this is just the joy of barbershop. It just crops up in any
- 9:10conversation you have. I mean, you can be talking about anything and it just.
- 9:14It just crops up. So it just cropped up. I remember we were walking
- 9:17by the Fitz Museum and then I started sort of thinking and formulating who
- 9:21else might be interested. And I spoke to Dom once when I was.
- 9:24You asked me over, over and beer at the dining bar.
- 9:28I was serving you and beer at the bar. Yes. And I was like originally,
- 9:32I was like, I probably would not be that keen. And then you weren't very
- 9:36keen. I could see the look of your eyes. Yeah. He said, just come along.
- 9:39I was like, okay. So, yeah, I organized a time and a place after
- 9:43exam. I said, you have no excuse, please just come and try it. And it
- 9:46was George, Dom and Jude at the time and
- 9:50I think everyone enjoyed it sufficiently to then. Then we
- 9:54got started, obviously. Then Jude graduated last year and that's when we had
- 9:59to audition for a new member. And Joe was fantastic in the audition
- 10:02and hence he was recruited and that's the current formation.
- 10:06So yeah, it was very sort of serendipitous in a way.
- 10:09And also simultaneously orchestrated entirely by me.
- 10:16So Joe, how's it been? Stepping into Jude's shoes, as it were.
- 10:19Yeah, it's been great. So what sort of stuff do you sing? Apart from
- 10:23barbershop obviously, but do you have any kind of favourite songs or hits
- 10:27that you do? We definitely have some not favourites and some
- 10:31favourites, to be fair. We try to do a mix. I'd say we do quite
- 10:35a lot of barbershop. Well, we call them barbershop bangers. And then we try to
- 10:38do some. Basically any piece that like any of us sort of suggest is something
- 10:42we'd like to do. And we try and see if we can find arrangement or.
- 10:46Or make it work really. Yeah, My personal favorite is one we're doing actually at
- 10:50the moment called Coney island or Goodbye My Coney Island Baby.
- 10:53Having spoken to a few people who vaguely know about barbershops, they sort
- 10:58of say it's. It's a popular. It's a popular number. I think a lot of
- 11:01people have it as their favorite, but it's just like for me it embodies the
- 11:05complete nonsense of barbershop along with the good sort
- 11:10of close harmony as well. But I don't know what your guys favourites are
- 11:13in terms of your classics. There aren't that many. So there's been an instance where
- 11:17we were doing a gig last year and we actually started receiving requests.
- 11:22Someone walked up to us and they said, do you happen to know Shaboom?
- 11:26And we played it off, we said, oh no, we don't know it
- 11:30that well but we'll give it your best shot. So we sang it brilliantly and
- 11:34they received it mediocrely but it was fine.
- 11:38So that's one of my favourites, I think. Shaboom. I remember
- 11:42you singing that in a concert in Connecticut. Actually when we were
- 11:46on tour with the chapel choir during the summer you had your
- 11:50international debut shot to stardom in Greenwich in
- 11:54Connecticut. Joe, I remember a concert.
- 11:57Was it the choir members recital last time? Jo, you did an extraordinary
- 12:02barbershop related maneuver just before the concert. Oh no.
- 12:07Do you want to tell us about that? So I'd gone to rehearsal that
- 12:11day, so I'd gotten my haircut three days before.
- 12:14But because I hadn't done it in rehearsal, I was wearing a beanie
- 12:18or something. Yeah, so I was in rehearsal with the beanie and
- 12:22then I didn't know what time the concert started, so I thought it started 15
- 12:26minutes later than it did. So I showed up a little late and because I'd
- 12:30taken the beanie off. They all thought I'd got my hair cut.
- 12:35So they were like, oh, barbershop moment.
- 12:38And it's a day that she'll live in infamy. I guess I was convinced you'd
- 12:42been and had a haircut and it had overrun and then you'd been late to
- 12:45the concert. But yeah, you played as like a. I don't
- 12:49know what the phrase is. Accordion. Yeah,
- 12:52no, it was, it was quite a moment. And so you're giving a recital
- 12:56this coming week. Would you like to tell us about it? Yes. So we've
- 13:00got, we've got a couple gigs lined up. Actually. We have one concert, our annual
- 13:04concert on Friday 20th June and we're going to be doing.
- 13:08That's our final concert together. And the title of it is Griffin Singer's the Greatest
- 13:12Hits. So it's going to be all of our favorite songs we've done over the
- 13:15couple of years. A few new ones, as Harry said, like Coney Island Baby,
- 13:19a couple of other ones by people who arrange music, like Tom Gentry
- 13:23and people who perform. And there's a really good guy on YouTube who we all
- 13:27love called Tim Warwick. He's just a fantastic bloke and he basically records himself
- 13:31singing all four parts better than all of us and then put it on YouTube
- 13:35and we often use him to listen to the songs. So, yeah, really excited.
- 13:38We got that concert coming up on Friday and. Have you found the hat that
- 13:41you lost? Didn't you lose a hat at some point? We did lose a hat.
- 13:44My wardrobe ate the hat is what happened. Um,
- 13:48before the last concert we. I sent a frantic message saying,
- 13:51where are all the hats? And we came to the conclusion that they must be
- 13:54in the chapel. And then lo and behold, we arrived in the chapel and there's
- 13:56only three hats. I then came home and it turned out my wardrobe,
- 14:01the hat got eaten. Effectively. I won't bore you with the details, but no,
- 14:05I now, I now know where the hat is and I'm fairly confident that I
- 14:09will bring it and we will be wearing the hats this time. Although, Jonathan,
- 14:12the hats just don't fit. I was just about to say the hats are probably
- 14:15the most nerve wracking part of our performances. They just don't stay on your head
- 14:18and you mostly spend a lot of the performance adjusting said hat so it
- 14:22doesn't fall off. And a lot of our choreography is. Well, if you've not seen
- 14:26this before, a lot of our choreography is quite aspirational is the word. I'd use.
- 14:29And that does provide challenges with the hat. Sometimes there
- 14:33might be some mishaps or. Mishats, you might say. So with your choreography, I mean
- 14:36your. Kind of your chat and your choreography is always brilliant.
- 14:40Hilarious. Do you spend a lot of time figuring
- 14:44it all out or how much of it is sort of off the cuff?
- 14:47So sometimes we agree on, you know, certain things that we're gonna do,
- 14:51but sometimes it just happens. So we were doing Coney island as we were talking
- 14:56the other day, sort of. It was just something happening in that room. You know,
- 14:59just many, many, many different sort of things bouncing
- 15:03off each other. It was all just happening. And we came up with an end
- 15:07product that was. Was pretty substantial, we thought, and we're
- 15:11gonna run with it. So sometimes it comes out of the music. Sometimes it's sort
- 15:15of like pre chosen. You never. You never really know with the choreography.
- 15:19But it's a beautiful thing. I was gonna say, I think sometimes
- 15:23it feels like we. We are interpretively dancing in
- 15:28the rehearsal and out of that sometimes comes comes choreo
- 15:33and. Yeah, and. And I'd say it's a form of. It's a form of art.
- 15:36It's like word painting almost. It's. What about next year? Because we're losing George and
- 15:41Dominic. Yeah. So next year I think this
- 15:45probably will be the. The. The end of the Griffin Singers at the end of
- 15:49this term, to be honest with you. We. We've had a fantastic couple of years,
- 15:53but I don't know. I. I think it. We. We could recruit new members,
- 15:57but I'm not sure if the essence of the Griffin Singers
- 16:01would remain, you know, so it's a difficult decision. I mean,
- 16:05I'm not necessarily sure that is final yet and we'll see. But I think most
- 16:09likely I want to treat this as if it's the last concert. Certainly. Obviously it's
- 16:13the last concert in this. In this formation for sure. So it's definitely. There's a
- 16:17feeling of finality about it. So we've kind of brought this unique point to Barbershop,
- 16:21which has kind of come from the vibe of originally the three of us.
- 16:25And then Joe coming in very much in auditions. It was like Joe was the
- 16:28one who really caught the vibe straight away and we're like bouncing off each other
- 16:31and. Yeah, it's like quite hard to maintain quite a special thing because
- 16:35we're such good friends. I don't know if we said already, but we all in
- 16:39the Downing Chapel Choir, so we already knew each other quite well from
- 16:43that. So there's a certain kind of bond that we all have together already.
- 16:46Yeah. Which I think is irreplaceable in a way, in making music and
- 16:50stuff. So. Yeah, that's the answer to that. Well, you've got a busy
- 16:54few days coming up, haven't you, with the concert tomorrow,
- 16:58Friday and then Saturday Donors garden
- 17:01party. No, not donor's garden party. The reception before the donor's lunch.
- 17:05You're going to be singing and then any May balls. We were
- 17:09singing at Downing May Ball, which is fantastic.
- 17:13At the drinks reception. So if you're a VIP ticket holder,
- 17:16you'll be fortunate enough to hear us sing. We were.
- 17:21Unfortunately, we got an offer to sing at John's May Ball, which was,
- 17:24well, not unfortunate. It was very fortunate. Lovely. But it was on the same day
- 17:27as Downing and we couldn't make the two work together. So just Downing.
- 17:31You've got your priorities right then, obviously.
- 17:34Downing. Yeah. Great. Well, thanks very much for chatting today.
- 17:37It's great to have you on the show and good luck with the final Greatest
- 17:42Hits concert tomorrow. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye then.
- 17:50This week is certainly a packed one as we heard the Chapel
- 17:54choir present their end of year concert tonight, 5:30 in the chapel. When that's
- 17:59finished, there's just time to race over to the East Lodge Garden to catch the
- 18:02opening night of the Dramatic Society's production of as yous like it at 6 o'
- 18:05clock. It's on again on Friday at 6 and on Saturday at 4.
- 18:09Also tomorrow at 5 is the Griffin Singers concert which will
- 18:13be quite a treat. On Saturday everyone is welcomed to an organ recital in
- 18:17the chapel at 3.15pm for half an hour featuring our two lovely organ
- 18:21scholars. And on Thursday 26 June, there is an event in the gallery featuring members
- 18:26of the Chapel choir singing some of Gillian Ayre's favourite music music. It's also a
- 18:29good chance to catch the exhibition. The Music Society present their May week concert at
- 18:342pm on Friday 27 June in the Masters Lodge, followed by
- 18:38refreshments. Details of all events are in the show notes. There are certainly
- 18:42plenty to choose from.
- 18:48Thank you so much to everyone who has contributed to this first ever
- 18:51series of the Downing Arts podcast. Join me next week for the final episode.
- 18:55I'll be interviewing a very special guest as we round off the term and if
- 18:59you'd like to take part in future series, drop me a line on artspodcastao.com.ac.uk
- 19:05thanks for listening.