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NFL Teams to Fade in Week 13, College Basketball, Mailbag & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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  Speaker 1: We're here to make you money. Stay with us all
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  Speaker 1: the way. What a show lined up today? Art to Caesar,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Rnaire. We're going to tell you where all the
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  Speaker 1: money is going in college football and NFL. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to do a fade or not the teams in the
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  Speaker 1: AFC East and the NFC East. Do we bet them?
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  Speaker 1: Don't we bet them? We're going to talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: We've got early college football bets, early NFL bets, an
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  Speaker 1: NBA rundown, a college basketball rundown. I'll give you a
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  Speaker 1: best betting show ever. Hey, Art, what's.
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  Speaker 2: Going on with you? Bro?
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  Speaker 3: Now much? Boys? Happy to be here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What is this thing hanging around your neck?
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  Speaker 3: Like my chain?
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  Speaker 1: It's called a wire? A wire. I haven't seen those
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  Speaker 1: apple thing of my jiggy's in a long time, one
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  Speaker 1: of these, But yet I wear these and people ask
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  Speaker 1: me why, and the answer is because my voice sounds
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  Speaker 1: so great in them. Joe, how you.
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  Speaker 2: Doing, bro outstanding?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: It's a Turkey week. Don't get any better than this week?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand why listen, I'm Canadian. I fully
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  Speaker 1: your the love in America, Thanksgiving is extremely high, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not insulting it. I just don't understand it specifically.
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  Speaker 1: Why is it better than Easter or Christmas or Independence
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  Speaker 1: Day or President Lawrence Presman Day. I mean, these are
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  Speaker 1: the biggest days in America. Why Thanksgiving? Why does it
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  Speaker 1: sit at the top of Mount Rushmore for holidays?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Art, do you want to take you want to
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  Speaker 2: inform them?
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  Speaker 3: Or I mean family? Family, food, and football? Man, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Family. Oh so it's the football because well technically you
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  Speaker 1: could do that on Christmas anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I was particular talking about you know, nine thousand
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  Speaker 2: hockey games, nine thousand college basketball games. Uh, put up
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  Speaker 2: for shut up time? College football final week in a
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  Speaker 2: regular season playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: This is yesterday on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I didn't. I said it's Thanksgiving week. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't just that week Giving. I said the Wei it's
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  Speaker 2: the greatest one.
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  Speaker 1: It's Black Friday coming up and Cyber Monday, and we
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  Speaker 1: got deals for you guys. We'll get too later. Art,
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  Speaker 1: Let's go man. Falcons and Jets, Shut up, Joe, Falcons
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  Speaker 1: and Jets, Texans and Colts, Jags and Titans. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell us where the members on those three games.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred they bet the sharp sped Atlanta already they
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  Speaker 4: laid one all the way up two and a half
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  Speaker 4: on that game. Right now, thirty nine and a half
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  Speaker 4: has pretty pretty much been our steady total. Really haven't
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  Speaker 4: budged off that. Texans at Cults, what a big game
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  Speaker 4: in the AFC South Division still open. I mean the
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  Speaker 4: Texans are creeping up the board. The winning games look
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  Speaker 4: like they're gonna get Stroud back. It doesn't matter though.
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  Speaker 4: They laid three and a half with Indy. We're now
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  Speaker 4: four and a half. Total's been bet down though, from
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  Speaker 4: forty five and a half to forty four. That is
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  Speaker 4: a sharp move. Jagg's Titans. You know, we were as
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  Speaker 4: high as seven, so a little bit of Titan money
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  Speaker 4: at seven. We're now jagged six and a half total
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  Speaker 4: forty two. Really hasn't budged off that That Titan seven
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  Speaker 4: money though, really just people taking you know, when the
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  Speaker 4: board was split six and a half, seven people coming
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  Speaker 4: in cleaning up our board taking seven. Really nothing to
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  Speaker 4: report as far as sharp as that goes with the seven.
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  Speaker 2: You know that Indy Houston game is interesting art because
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  Speaker 2: you've got I believe this is the first time Indy
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  Speaker 2: is actually home in like forever. I think that last
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  Speaker 2: game was October twenty six, and Houston has been nothing
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  Speaker 2: at home here. I believe Stroud is going for this,
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  Speaker 2: or at least they're hoping he'll be ready, But it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like whether it's Stroud or Davis Mills, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see a whole lot one way or the other.
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  Speaker 2: It just appears that, you know, the money is going
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  Speaker 2: to be coming in on Indy, but I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: the public's gonna see it that way because a recency bias.
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  Speaker 2: What are you seeing? Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: We're kind of figuring Stroud is going to play, But
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  Speaker 4: like I said, that initial money is on the Colt
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  Speaker 4: and it moved us to, you know, from three and
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  Speaker 4: a half to four and a half. I think the
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  Speaker 4: interesting thing is how the Sharps instantly saw forty five
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  Speaker 4: and a half, despite the Colts being the highest scoring
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  Speaker 4: team in the league. That Houston defense plays a style
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't really allow for overs, so they already bet
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  Speaker 4: that down. Now does it reach a point where maybe
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  Speaker 4: we bought them out on the number and they.
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  Speaker 3: Bet it back up? That is possible.
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  Speaker 1: Joe and aary Art Deseason joining us. Hit that like button.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday we had over two hundred comments. Was an amazing show,
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  Speaker 1: so much fun to read all those comments. Joe I
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  Speaker 1: had to call Brian Power yesterday to check on him.
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  Speaker 1: Is our abuse a little bit too much?
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you have his number because I'd just had
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  Speaker 2: if he was still breathing and going to allow for
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  Speaker 2: good guy. Good ol Brian Power.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely love Brian Power, and it's the reason
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  Speaker 1: we have him on art. We're gonna do the three
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving games tomorrow as there's no Thursday show, so stay
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  Speaker 1: with us tomorrow. We'll get to those three Thanksgiving games.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to some college football here. You want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about Western Michigan, East Eastern Michigan, Ohio Buffalo and
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  Speaker 1: Air Force against Colorado State.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Western Michigan Eastern Michigan is actually Today, Western
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  Speaker 4: Michigan wins. They're in the MAC Title Games. This is
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  Speaker 4: a big game for them Sharp's late six and a half.
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  Speaker 4: They laid seven all the way up to eight now
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  Speaker 4: on that. So a lot of Western Michigan money has
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  Speaker 4: come in on the game. Total of forty six and
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  Speaker 4: a half really hasn't budged Ohio Buffalo Sharp's late six
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  Speaker 4: and a half of Ohio. It's now seven. But the
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  Speaker 4: under is the big move. It was under forty seven.
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  Speaker 4: Money that came in moved us all the way to
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  Speaker 4: forty four on the game. So you've seen a three
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  Speaker 4: point move to the under, and then air Force at
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  Speaker 4: Colorado State Sharps took three. With Colorado State, we got
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  Speaker 4: to as low as one on the game. They've now
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  Speaker 4: bought back a little bit on air Force, but it's
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  Speaker 4: still under. The field goal total has also been bet
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  Speaker 4: down from forty seven to forty five. Sharp money again
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  Speaker 4: on the under there.
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  Speaker 2: So ar you know, this is a pretty big week
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  Speaker 2: because you do have a lot of those teams that
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  Speaker 2: have five wins going up against teams that you know, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 2: one more win, they're bawl eligible. They're going I know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot, you know, five win teams, teams like
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  Speaker 2: Florida State Ball or Kansas Kansas State. Do you see
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  Speaker 2: at Penn State Rutgers. I mean, do you guys factor
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  Speaker 2: that in? Do you shade to the one side of
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  Speaker 2: the other thinking the public's gonna be like, oh, this
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  Speaker 2: team needs to win to get to a bowl game.
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  Speaker 2: How do you factor that in at the books?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you definitely have to shade maybe half a point
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  Speaker 4: here or there. But also, Joe, you got to remember,
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  Speaker 4: we let our betters give us a lot of the information.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there are plenty of times they might not
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  Speaker 4: even touch a team who is trying to win to
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  Speaker 4: be Bawl eligible. But if they start to get on
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  Speaker 4: one side of a team who needs to win to
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  Speaker 4: be bowl eligible, then we really will move aggressively and
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  Speaker 4: almost say you know what, well, dare you to bet
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  Speaker 4: the other side? You want to come at the other side?
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  Speaker 4: That's fine. That happens a lot. There's also like the
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  Speaker 4: Western Michigan situation. They teams that need to win to
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  Speaker 4: get into conference championship games, things of that nature.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously this is a big week.
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  Speaker 4: And a week in the college football game where you
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  Speaker 4: might see games that are under the radar that don't
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  Speaker 4: mean anything with teams record wise, But as you mentioned
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  Speaker 4: teams are fighting to get in the bowl games art.
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  Speaker 1: The cas are enjoining us always every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
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  Speaker 1: and Friday from the West Gate Art. There are three
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  Speaker 1: NBA games, one NHL game, and seven thousand college basketball games.
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  Speaker 1: Have you spotted anything we need to know about any
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  Speaker 1: of those sports?
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  Speaker 4: The one thing I will say with the college basketball
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  Speaker 4: and that Players Error Tournament which is here in Vegas,
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  Speaker 4: those have generated wonderful handle and during this week with
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  Speaker 4: all the tournaments and the good matches and college basketball,
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  Speaker 4: we always get a pretty good handle on these games. But
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  Speaker 4: the games being here, the matches being as spectacular as
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  Speaker 4: they are, we've seen really good handle on those games.
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  Speaker 4: And we've seen a lot of those games get back
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  Speaker 4: over a lot of games with those teams in the
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  Speaker 4: tempos moving up and down, a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 4: of games have been bet over.
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  Speaker 3: In those games. You've seen some pretty good moves there.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. If you're like that segment, hit that like
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  Speaker 1: button please, Okay, let's get moving. So we won our
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  Speaker 1: parlay of the day on Saturday. How did we do
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: We didn't win one leg?
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  Speaker 1: We went oh and three?
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  Speaker 2: Did wow? Blaming Joe I know that's the first time.
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  Speaker 2: I might be the first time all year that we
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  Speaker 2: actually listen blast out.
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  Speaker 3: I took the Raiders, So get our hand.
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  Speaker 1: Up, good dude, And uh, I mean, do you make
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of this Raiders team so bad?
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  Speaker 2: It's just well they figured it out. It's Chip Kelly's fault.
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  Speaker 2: So things gotta be to be great this week.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we spoke about that. Yesterday Chip Kelly talked about
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  Speaker 1: doesn't he long for the days where he coached Oregon?
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  Speaker 1: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Man. Ever since then, it's been I won.
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  Speaker 2: A national championship last year as the OCE of Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State and you opted to go to Pete Carroll, Gino
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  Speaker 2: Smith and the Raiders. Boy Benny Wishers, he was still
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  Speaker 2: in Ohio State. I'm just saying, my goodness, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I don't even know if Pete
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  Speaker 1: Carroll is coaching or mailing it in anyway. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to our parley of the day and I'm gonna go
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: into the hockey game. Guys, I'm gonna look at the
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  Speaker 1: over in the Dallas Edmonton Oilers game. There are sixes
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  Speaker 1: out there. It's half and half. Please take over six
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  Speaker 1: in the Dallas Edmonton game. Art, what do you like?
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to that Player's Era tournament Michigan and All.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Michigan on the money line to beat all.
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  Speaker 1: M Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Lakers get it done tonight against the La Slippers, as
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  Speaker 2: Lebron and company will handle business at home.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Steve Balmer probably had a whole head
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  Speaker 1: of hair before he started in the NBA, although we
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  Speaker 1: know that's not true, but you understand my point. Yeah, exactly. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So guys, every Tuesday and Wednesday, we do a segment
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  Speaker 1: called Fade or Not. We pick some NFL teams. We
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  Speaker 1: discussed whether to fade them or not fade them. Today
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do both East. So we're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: the AFC East and the NFC East. We're gonna start
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  Speaker 1: with the AFC East, the New England Patriots. This is
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  Speaker 1: a team that is ten and two to start the year.
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  Speaker 1: They are at They are them and the Broncos. They
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  Speaker 1: are right behind the Broncos. Nobody saw this coming, although
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  Speaker 1: we did expect an improvement from this team. There are
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  Speaker 1: points four three exceptional. I mean, this team is scoring
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  Speaker 1: at a very high level. Are they a fade team
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  Speaker 1: moving forward or is this a team art that is
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  Speaker 1: just going to continue to do what they're doing. Well.
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  Speaker 4: They're probably going to continue to win because the schedules
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  Speaker 4: so bad, but now their prices are getting a little inflated,
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know. Maybe there's a couple of spots
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  Speaker 4: down the road here against some of these bad teams
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  Speaker 4: where they're laying a point and a half to two
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  Speaker 4: and a half points more than they probably should, so
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  Speaker 4: maybe you could look to fade them. But they're going
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  Speaker 4: to keep winning games because because the schedules better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, they're minus seven and a half against the
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  Speaker 1: New York Giants, who did show a lot of moxy
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  Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions last week. Is this a New
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  Speaker 1: England team, a fade or bet on team for you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not buying them. I think what you saw last
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  Speaker 2: week against the Bengals that is going to rear its
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: head more and more as the season progresses. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Drake may a fantastic job, but the idea that he's
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  Speaker 2: even in the same breath as Matt Stafford, we're crowning
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  Speaker 2: this guy in MVP here. And third, you know, Week
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  Speaker 2: twelve and eleven of the season and accomplish something first,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, they won, you know, in spite of him,
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  Speaker 2: they ended up winning that game barely. So I think
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots, you know, if you haven't already thought about
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  Speaker 2: it at ten and two, now might be the time
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  Speaker 2: to sell high here on the Patriots moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree with you, Joe. I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: even with this Monday Night's game, I think to play
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  Speaker 1: looking forward is on the Giants, and I think they
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  Speaker 1: are a team that the public is going to inflate
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  Speaker 1: the lines on. So I think you guys were all
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  Speaker 1: in agreement.
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  Speaker 2: Good news. By the way, it doesn't appear like they
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  Speaker 2: lost their stud rookie offensive lineman for the rest of them,
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  Speaker 2: so that that's good. Everyone thought it was they lost him,
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  Speaker 2: it was going to be a knee issue, but apparently
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't as bad as first thoughts. So that is
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  Speaker 2: good news for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: You know who did not lose a stud offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: that Las Vegas Raiders, Oh, because they never had one
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  Speaker 1: to start had once had one, Yes they did, yeah, Colton.
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  Speaker 2: Mill And then once they lost him, they really went
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  Speaker 2: to shit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how we got back into that. Oh
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  Speaker 1: that's on me. Okay, let's talk. Let's turn our attention
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  Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills, and man, there is something wrong
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I think their coach needs to go personally.
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  Speaker 1: They are in Pittsburgh this week minus three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: There are fours out there. I'm going out on a
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  Speaker 1: limb here, art to Caesar, I am looking to bet
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  Speaker 1: on Buffalo moving forward. I just believe in Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that they're at their best after they're at
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  Speaker 1: their worst. I like them this weekend. I like them
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  Speaker 1: moving forward. Maybe I'm just a sucker for Buffalo art.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what to make of this Buffalo team.
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  Speaker 4: But speaking of it, if you like Buffalo now, maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's the time to buy some of their futures.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and and reliance.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, maybe this is your time. If you
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  Speaker 4: want Buffalo for the AFC, you want Buffalo for the
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  Speaker 4: super Bowl. Division is probably dead. But if you want
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  Speaker 4: to take a shot with a couple of those futures,
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  Speaker 4: this is probably the time now to get in on Buffalo.
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  Speaker 4: I don't just press I don't like the Pittsburgh team,
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  Speaker 4: so I can see Buffalo this.
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  Speaker 2: Joe yeah, I put Buffalo in the same category as
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs. If you haven't stuck a fork in the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs yet. There is absolutely no reason to stick a
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  Speaker 2: fork in the Buffalo Bills just yet. Too much experience.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we've been here before with Buffalo where
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  Speaker 2: they they have this stretch every year where we do
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  Speaker 2: exactly this, like, oh God, this team can't you know,
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  Speaker 2: McDermott's gotta go, this guy's gotta go, and then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, beginning like week fourteen, fifteen
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  Speaker 2: sixteen said, then they roll right into the playoffs and
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  Speaker 2: they look like world beaters, and I think we're I
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  Speaker 2: think we'd be foolish to fade both Kansas City and
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo just yet. So and I think to ours point,
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  Speaker 2: the time has never been better to buy low on
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  Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills then right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like I feel like everything we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about applies to the Detroit Lions as well. From
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  Speaker 1: my perspective of veteran team with a master motivator as
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  Speaker 1: a coach, I think, if you're gonna buy futures on
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  Speaker 1: the Lions, you buy them now. If you're gonna buy
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  Speaker 1: futures on Buffalo, you buy it all more so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if the season ends to today, pres Buffalo's in.
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  Speaker 2: Detroit's out right, so right, even more so now with Detroit,
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  Speaker 2: which is what makes this game coming up Thursday, Kitchen
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  Speaker 2: Saint lay it all out there, Detroit, because if you
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  Speaker 2: lose this one, it ain't looking good moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean you can again make that argument with
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay too. Green Bay loses on Thursday, and I
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  Speaker 1: think they're done. I don't see three teams coming out
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  Speaker 1: of that division. Let's keep to the AFC East and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the winners of two straight Miami Doltlin's.
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  Speaker 1: There's something positive coming out of their dressing room, which
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  Speaker 1: is crazy. Mike McDaniel is going to be coaching next year.
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  Speaker 1: That's what the owner already announced.
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  Speaker 2: Art.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what dal to make this team, but
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, they are trying, they are playing.
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  Speaker 1: They're minus six against New Orleans. I think they might
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  Speaker 1: be a bet on team this week. Art, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know what you mean, and I gotta be fair.
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  Speaker 4: I called for McDaniel's head like six weeks ago. Give
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  Speaker 4: him all the credit in the world. They play for him,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: and they've been a lot better. Miami with that six
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: is gonna be very popular in the teasers. I'll say
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: that they're not gonna be like a big hey, we'll
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: go lay six, but shockingly enough, Miami will be popular
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: moneyline parlays and teasers. I don't know if I want
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: to go lay six, but maybe there are some spots
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: down the road because of how hard they are playing
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: where you can look to back Miami, Joe, Miami.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: No, listen, I've seen this movie over and over and
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: over every this is exactly the game Miami loses. They
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: lose this game to the Saints, and then we all
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: going what in the world were we thinking? How in
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the hell we should they should have burned it from
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and telling you what's happening. Absolutely, you can go.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Go in reverse too, because because this is the game
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that New Orleans screws up their draft pick.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly correct. I have seen this movie with
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Miami all the time. They show these flashes of brilliance
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it's like, oh my god, yeah, no,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: no way, it's a right now with people being like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: WHOA not bad Miami, I've been pretty good. No, No,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna screw this thing up. And there's
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: still plenty of time for McDaniel and the chopping bloc arts,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: so don't worry. The season ain't over yet. Plenty of
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: time for him to get canned.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the wonderful New York Jets, and uh,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: they're playing with their coach right now. They're plus two
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: and a half at home against Atlanta. I think this
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: is a fade team. Personally, I don't think I'm gonna
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: be on this game at all, but I think the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: New York Jets stick a fork in them are what.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, they've the sharps. Have already told you when
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Atlanta was won. They've got them up to do an. Now,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: you guys know the key number of three. If we
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: get to three, there will be Jet money, just because
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: it's an NFL team getting three at home. That's the
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: way they bet it. They bet the numbers. They're not
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: going to look at the team. But I'm with you, Prez.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I think moving forward the Jets, it's just too many mistakes.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I get that they're playing hard for the guy, but
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: offensively they're so challenge Joe.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Listen, I sat here last week when we were doing
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: our early NFL bets and I said, it's gross, it's disgusting,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: hold your nose. But you got to take the points
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: with the Jets because there's no way that you know
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that Ravens team should be laying two touchdowns against anybody,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and sure enough, the Jets, I'm telling you right now,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't fumble the ball on the two yard
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: line there, we're having a different conversation about this Jets team. Here. Listen,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: you can't fake effort, right Those guys realize what's going
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: on there. They're playing hard. They got nothing to lose.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: If you can keep rolling out Tyrod, They're never going
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to there is never ever going to be a game.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I think the rest of the way where we're gonna
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, the Jets are over value. They're always
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be the value play. So I definitely think there's
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be spots to back them again because the market
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: is so going to be against them for the rest.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Of the way, And that makes sense, Joe, there will
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: be value to back them. I mean, I know I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: still kicking myself with taking the Las Vegas Raiders last week.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of my biggest rules as a sports
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: better is to stay away from the bottom five teams
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in every league. And I understand that there's a lot
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of value in the bottom five teams in every league.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I just by rule don't bet on them. And I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: broke that rule last Sunday.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Especially when bottom five teams play bottom five teams. There's
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: not any expecting land teams to do good things. Is
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: just never will formal.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Then you just take the overs. When those two shitters
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: play against each other, just take the overs because that's
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: pretty much the only time New Orleans and Miami, right, Like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: when is New Orleans gonna score points? Well? Probably in
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: this game. Okay, let's go into the NFC, the East,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the Eagles. So this Eagles team is fascinating to me, Guys,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I think that they can win the Super Bowl. I'm
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: telling you that right now. I think that if they
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: can find a way to stretch the field, and we
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: saw them trying to do that at the beginning against Dallas.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: If they can stretch the field, I think this is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the best team in football. The problem is they have
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: not been able to consistently find a passing game. I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: think this team is a bet on team moving forward, Guys,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and last year we saw this story play out. They
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: spent the or seven weeks struggling to create distance. They're
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a bet on team for me. Moving forward, I think
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: we see Philadelphia start to roll art.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: A man, uh Press, I'm with you. They obviously are
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: a team who could win the Super Bowl. I'd like
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: to see him run the ball more more, Barkley more.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Stretch the field first, for sure.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: But I love their running game. I don't know why
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: they don't lose it more. I think Bigsby should get
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: more run.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: That's just me. This week is interesting because obviously.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: They play Black Friday, they play Chicago, who's been hot,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: and they're laying a big number at home, and I
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: feel like they will bet Chicago this week.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: It feels like a.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Spot where the public will bet Chicago and they will fade.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Philly here.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: And I think Philly is the play in that game
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: despite the big number.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Joe. Before I get your opinion, I just want to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: tell you, guys, I've been watching the sau documentary and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: this is a picture of Okay, what is he wearing?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: A good question?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: What is a superhero?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Sat? It's a great gold dead shirts. My new favorite player.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Go see who they are.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: He's a dead head, no chance, deadhead.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He clearly did this enough. It's the sniff test. It
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: was a clean shirt and that was the That was
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the end of that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: It's like when they wear a Nirvana T shirt. They
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: have no idea.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: No, Okay, well, I'm going to assume that he is
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a deadhead. Joe Philly is Philly fate for you.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: He'd be better off being a deadhead than to try
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and gain. Where is Philadelphia shipping out these offensive linemen
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that you think they're so bent on moving forward? We
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: missed the boat on on squeezing out every last dollar
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: on his Eagles team. Heading into that Cowboys game, they
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: were undefeated in one score games. Every game is one
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: score with them, and that that running game is not
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: going to get better. Lane Johnson is out again, he's
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: heard who knows jargons the center still banged up. Their
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: backups aren' very good. There is a lot of chatter
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: about the offensive play calling, and you know you're not
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: replacing Ben Johnson. I mean you're not replacing them obviously,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So I think they have far too many issues on offense. Yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: they have moments, what they look good, Prez, But if
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: they can't run the ball, then you're asking Jalen Hurts
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to what throw forty times a game? And we already
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: know what happens when you get pressure on them, think
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: good things don't happen. So I think the problem is
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the longer it goes that they can't run the ball
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and sustain drives, they're gonna wear that defense out because
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: that defense is gonna be out of the field unfortunately,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: like they were against the Cowboys in the second half,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: much longer than they need to be. And we're seeing
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the same thing with Green Bay. You're gonna bury the unit,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: burn this defense out before they get to the postseason.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you that. If they don't burn out
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: either of those defenses, they're really good. I mean the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Eagles defense is really really good.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Run the ball, boy guys, Jesus.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: This Cowboy team. They got to be feeling really good
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: about themselves. They are five and five. There is a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: pathway for them. They got the Chiefs this week at home,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: both teams in an absolute game. Well I don't know
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: what that is, but I think the Cowboys are a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know team art and I just don't because
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: every time this team comes out and plays like world beaters.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: The next week they can't put up a field goal
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and vice versa. I don't understand this team, That's what
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going with. I don't understand the Cowboys art.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, their defense obviously is improved with
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of the guys games. Yes, it's a massive
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: game on Thanksgiving against the Chiefs, who are also desperate to.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Continue to win year.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I don't I mean, I would say, far far away
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: from this game, I don't know what to make of it,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: But Dallas moving forward, maybe in spots you can look to.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Better Joe, listen.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the stat was today I saw
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: there pez that for this week. Kansas City is the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: only road favorite of the three games on Thanksgiving, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: road favorites are twenty five and one on Thanksgiving, going
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: back to going back a long time. I think since
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: two thousand and four. They just they don't lose these
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: games on Thanksgiving. And that's what I'm just saying. That's
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a pretty impressive number on a short week coming in
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: and being a road favorite. And I guess you're a
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: road favorite for a reason in this spot. Better teams
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: tend to be able to adjust on the road. Having
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: said that, I don't like the Kansas City had to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: go to all overtime. I like that Dallas gets to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: stay home. And now Dallas, who was defensively a punching bag,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: no longer that. And now maybe you give that offense
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit of an opportunity here to cook. And
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: they certainly have enough weapons. I think Dallas is absolutely
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: bet on moving forward. That defense is no longer the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: worst and the laughingstock in the NFL. Jerry, can you
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: believe it actually might have pulled a rabbit out of
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: his ass here with that trade for Quinnon Williams, I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: want to talk.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: About so trendoff twenty I one against the spread twenty
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: one straight up, straight up? Yeah, that's very important. Yes,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know what they are against the spread.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: It's not what you think it is here, Bras, I'll
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: get it for you here. It's even it's a ridiculous
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: number as well, they are, oh it is, it is.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It's just as profitable to put them on the number.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, because there has to be
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: some reason for that. Trend twenty five and one is
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: massive and that's twenty you know six case example of
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: twenty six. Do you bet into that trend? You care
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: about that trend? I am thinking that that trend has
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: substance to it, and I do not want to bet
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: into it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Twenty five and one straight up, twenty and six against
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the number on Thanksgiving since two thousand and four are
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the only loss you'll like This art was back in
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: two thousand and nine when the Giants lost to the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Broncos twenty six to six. But other than that, it
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: has been you know, road favorites on Thanksgiving apparently our
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: favorites for a reason, and don't be scared of bagging them.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So would you bet? Would you bet against that trend?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: That's the question? Would you If you love the Dallas
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: they they're a better matchup rolling this that sandwich, spot
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: let down this, not let down that, whatever the hell
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you reason and tzarre if you come up with Dallas.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Would you bet into that Kansas City trend?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: No? And I'll tell you why. Another trend? You ready
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: for a trend off? Here? Guys? You're ready for this?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Strap out music? How about teams on short rest coming
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: off an overtime game taking on a team that didn't
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: go to overtime. Yeah. Twenty six and forty eight straight up,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: twenty four, forty seven and three against the number in
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the last twenty years. If you are playing a team
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: on a Thursday that came from an overtime game six
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: and twenty one straight up, five and twenty two against
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the number, are those teams that played in overtime.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: So that counter is your opposite trends is the death
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: media music for our credit record. But I will say this, Joe,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the second trend for me logically doesn't hold as much. Wait,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the second trend feels more coincidental to me. Now, I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: could be wrong, but you got it. When you hear
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: these trends, guys, and lots of Andy Kappers have them.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: This team on a Tuesday standing on one leg with
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the biometric chemistry of XYZ is blabbady blah blah. Don't
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: just assume that these trends make sense. Some of them
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: are just things. That second one has merit, but not
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: nearly the type of merit that the first trend had.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this because if you break it down
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: even further art, if Kansas City was in Arrowhead playing
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: this game coming off the overtime, I'd agree with you, Prez.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: But now they have to go on a short week
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and travel to Dallas and road teams in that spot
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: nine and twenty eight straight up eleven, twenty five and
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: one against the number. I don't like the travel aspect art.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: What about you?
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the big thing is Joe, you hit
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: it there. So we're now in late November week thirteen.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: The teams that are favored on the road this late
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: in the season are favored for a reason. Right, we
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: have had all these weeks of data and moving our
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: power ratings, So it makes sense that those teams going
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: on the road this late in the season win and
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: cover at that type of rate because you know, they're
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: favored for a reason. We have had so much data
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: now to suggest, well, these teams are so much better. Yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: they have to be favored on the road, So the
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: trend makes sense to me.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Let's keep moving Commodores and Giants. We'll
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: go through them both at the same time. Washington is
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: a bet against team for me, and I think the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Giants are a bet on team, although obviously I want
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to know who's playing quarterback, but they're playing hard, aren't.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I definitely want to know who's playing quarterback. But that
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: doesn't stop me from wanting to bet they're overs. Yes,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I think we all said it last week. We love
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: that over in that Lion game. Giant overs feel nice.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I will say this about Washington. I do think they
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: are fade team. And I get that both dem and
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Denver are coming off buys, it feels like a big
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: number for Denver to lay on the road. I understand
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: defense travels and all that, and Washington's really bad, but
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: it feels like a thick number for Denver to go
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: lay on the road against Washington.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Agreed Joe, Yeah, I think Washington is done. I think
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: we can stick a fork in that season and everything else.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And I kind of agree with you there are I
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: don't think the Commanders are going to get a whole
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: lot offensively. And while I would agree that maybe the
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: overs in their games are the way to look, I'm
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: not sure this is a game that I would do that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: They did play pretty tough last game out there defensively,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: but the injuries have just mounted up there. It's I
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: don't trust bow Nicks offensively either. I mean, I think
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: that's a problem. So I would be looking especially on
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the road or them being home. Washington I'd be looking
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: maybe to play some team totals under in these spots
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: against better defenses.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: What a segment, boys, I love that fade or not? Guys,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: what do you want to hear it tomorrow? Which divisions
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: in the NFL should we discuss fate or not? Put
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: it up in the comment section. Please. Aren't anything special
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: happening at the west Gate? But Thanksgiving? Are you guys
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: going to be serving turkey on the floor?
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Oh no, it's enough, set set.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Listen why those are open? Twenty four to seven, three
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: sixty five? It's just another day, Yes, it is.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Just another day at the West Gate. Go visit Art
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to Caesar at the west Gate, Given and love.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Just another day? Is that a Commodore song? Art? Maybe?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought maybe that was. I don't
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: know it. I don't know. He said Commodore's And I
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: can't get Lionel, Richie or brick House out of my
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: head now, So thanks press, appreciate that brick got the brick.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Oh boy, sexy Joe Joe, zoo zoo me out, Joe,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: suit me out?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Where am I going? Okay, I gotta go?
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: H you see it?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: New helmets?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you mix. Is that an old school
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Green Bay helmets? To look at? Nice?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I want to show you the Green Bay helmet.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: All right, let's see what we got here looking at
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Oh a, look at that Bart start Star. You did right,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: look at it?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: So these hell m's are the actual helmets that they wore.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Is that Bart Star's hair? Is that what I just
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: saw on there? Is that?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Is that a with bart Star's pubic hair?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Boy?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Anyway?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: That helmet is so light and so thin with basically
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: nothing in it compared to like Lawrence Taylor's helmet. I mean,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: it's just it's a radical difference.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: In his helmet. Any anything white in his helmet? No, Okay,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Joe, where is Lawrence Taylor these days? Is he a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: live still?
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Alive?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still down a little. That's a good question.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Last I heard though, he was in trouble. He was
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: being sued or or something. I believe he's down in
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: my neck of the woods as actually I believe he's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: down here.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Oh in Montreal. They sold his super Bowl ring.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, he get out of here, so yeah, well
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: he can afford to sell one.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Mark, Thanks for doing this with us, brother, We'll see
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Guys, we got we got lots of show
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: left lots. We got a couple of NFL picks coming
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: your way. Same with college football. Joe's going to do
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: an NBA rundown and a college basketball runner. I'll give
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you a quick breakdown on the NHL game, and we
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: have our mail back segment. But before we get into
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: any of that, it's time for some Okay, let's get
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: into some business. Joe. It is customer Appreciation Day, over
• 37:41
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• 37:44
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• 37:59
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• 38:08
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• 38:12
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  Speaker 1: put that aside. I'm sixty percent on the NBA season.
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  Speaker 1: have not had a losing NBA season in three years.
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• 38:34
  Speaker 1: my best sport. It happened out of the blue. I
• 38:38
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• 38:40
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• 38:48
  Speaker 1: also have a five percent play in the NFL this weekend.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: It is a monster. I very rarely have these five
• 38:57
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  Speaker 2: Am?
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  Speaker 1: Is there an al in health?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hell of a point there price, I am,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: And well done for thinking of that to use as
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  Speaker 2: a code. Well done. I have a customer appreciation day.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: It's all about well the appreciation, guys. I do have
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: an early bet that I made in the NFL this
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: week that is up and available now for five bucks,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I will be just a hand fading the public here,
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  Speaker 2: so check that out. Also, I have a early college
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: basketball slate of games going on are told you in Vegas,
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  Speaker 2: and I've got three of them right now for five bucks.
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  Speaker 2: That you can start the day off rattling off some
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  Speaker 2: winners there in college hoops. Get it going. That too,
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  Speaker 2: is for just five buckses. I can't seem to get
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  Speaker 2: me on the screen press, so we're just gonna keep
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: looking at you. There you go, boom, five bucks, five
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  Speaker 2: dollars across the board. People, that's what you.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Got it, Joe. I want to tell you something.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You are not.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Allowed to sell three plays for five dollars. That is
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: not the rule. It is one play for five dollars.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: You are not allowed to package them together. You did
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that last week, nobody said a thing. You did it
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: this week, and given that I'm one of the owners
• 40:57
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• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Keep call me crazy. Five. It's a five dollars package,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: not necessarily play. It's labeled package, so nope, it's it
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  Speaker 2: would normally be twenty nine, but instead it's five.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So wrong, wrong, wrong, Well, in that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Case, you better do all three plays for five bucks, guys,
• 41:21
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• 41:24
  Speaker 2: so I can't give away to play. So go ahead,
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• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So in the future I may make a suggestion
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• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Oh I like the way you're thinking. All right, there
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: you go. Okay, semantics scomatos to model love it boom.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, brother, we got some NFL bets coming from college
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: football bets. Why don't you go first with the college
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: football bets, Joe, only, because you then got to do
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: NBA and college Jube, So you you go first with
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the college football all right?
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: You want me to go first with college football? And
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make this very simple here, guys, theres
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be since I'm in that giving mood,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: it's going to be two for one number one. I
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: am going to give you Western Michigan here tonight to
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: get it done. You heard Art say this opened up
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: six and a half. It's already been but up to seven,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: seven and a half. He's at eight. There are still
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: seven and a half available in the market. And listen,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I've been cashing tickets on Western Michigan all year long.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Here they have been one of the better under the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: radar teams, not only because they have one of the
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: best defenses in the country and certainly in the MAC,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: but they're very good at running the ball. They're home,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: it's senior night. If they win, then they're heading to
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Detroit for the MAC title game. Here. I'm expecting a
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: big effort for them. So yes, I am gonna go
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: with Western Michigan tonight's as well, pres as I am
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: gonna fade Air Force, who has nothing left to play
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: for taking on Colorado State. So I'll take Colorado State
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: on the money.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Loan, Joe, you have a full minute left. Who cares,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Let's get.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: The same Well, yeah, it's yours. It's supposed to be split.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I only took a minute for college football and just.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm only giving one NFL playout. Well, I'll
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: give it out right now due to La Chargers. Let's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: not overthink this. Currently, the Las Vegas Raiders are being
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: sacked Gino Smith. He got sacked about two minutes ago. Look,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: here's the bottom line minus nine and a half. Now,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I have to assume that the LA Chargers could put
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: up ten points. If they put up ten points, they
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: cover nine and a half. That's how bad the Las
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders offense is. We gotta believe that the La
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Chargers are gonna get over twenty In all seriousness here, guys,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I think the LA Chargers are gonna get up twenty
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: seven points, give or take. There is absolutely no way
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that the Las Vegas Raiders are putting up seventeen points.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: They're not putting up thirteen points. I don't think they
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: put up nine. I am not overthinking this. The Chargers
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: off of a buy playing a team that emotionally must
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: be completely drained. Just take the Chargers minus the nine
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and a half and let's catch some coin Joe kind
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: of like today.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like where you're heading with that one, Prez.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's the best way to approach that. All Right,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: NBA rundown here, and let's start, of course with the
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: NBA Cup, because that's what you've got going on here today.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: You've got Atlanta taking on Washington in game one, and
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: we all realize that, well, Washington is what's the word
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: ass total ass. They've won one game on the season,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: one in fifteen. They sure as hell ain't gonna win
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: two against this Atlanta ha Hawks team, who is one
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: in one in NBA Cup. Play this group play here.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: By the way, Toronto's already won that group, but the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Hawks will have an opportunity to go ahead and face
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Cleveland in the next game. And then it comes down
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: to point differential. They only have an eight point differential
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: right now plus eight, which means they are going to
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: want to blow the doors off the Wizards here, and
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I think they do that and cover this number here tonight.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: The Magic taking on the sixes. Boy, the Magic have
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: been absolutely outstanding. They are going to take on a
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six ers team who at this point are
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: still trying to mix and match. Can we get McClain going,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Can Paul George get it going? And Bead who the
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: hell knows? Maybe it's time that we move on for him.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: This number has continued to move towards the Magic, and
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I agree with it. And then I already gave you
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the Lakers earlier in our three team money line parlay,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and I like the Lakers to get it done. Lebron's
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: in the house, although Kawhia is back, but I'm not
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: sure that's gonna help this Clippers team. It is at
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: the Crypto dot Com Arena. I think Reeves and Luca
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: and Lebron and company get it done in a big
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: way tonight. Here, Prez, and I've left you now a
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: little time for your NHL breakdown of the one game tonight.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, Look, the only way you can bet the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Dallas Edmonton game is to take over the total. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to take over six and a half.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: You got to take over six. The bottom line here
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: is that Edmonton can't keep the puck out of the net.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: They've allowed nine to five, to five and seven goals
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: in four of their last nine games. You cannot allow
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: nine goals in a hockey game and then three days
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: later allow seven goals. This team is horrible defensively and
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: have no goal to ending. And we know they can score.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Don't overthink this. Dallas can score as well. Dallas has
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: scored two or more goals in and straight Just take
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: over six. Call of a day. What's going on in
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: college hoops?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: All right? So let's go to that players tournament here
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, And the reason why the handle has
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: been so good is because there's a lot of blue bloods,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of big names playing hoops here today, and
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: it's gonna start rather early. But one of the big
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: games is gonna be to Houston Cougar's taking on the
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Tennessee Volves here. Now, Houston was taken to the brink
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: last night by a undermanned Syracuse team. Syracuse still didn't
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: even have their best player available to them, won't have
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: them available for the rest of this tournament either, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: they were good enough to take Houston to overtime, in
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: which Houston they ended up handling business eventually and won
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the game. But if it's one thing we know about
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: both of these two teams is they're gonna play defense,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: and I mean a lot of defense here. This game
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: should be an absolute rock fight between these two. We've
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: already seen money come in on the under it was
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: one thirty five and a half. I think we're down
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: to about one thirty three and a half, maybe even
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: one thirty two and a half. And who are we
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: kidding The idea that these two teams are gonna run
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: up and down the court, not happening. Houston's still trying
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: to figure out its offensive identity. We already know what
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Tennessee is. Tennessee is gonna be suffocating here. This is
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: gonna be a first one to seventy is gonna win,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and I think that's gonna give us enough to be
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: able to get the under here in this game tonight.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: And then you got Michigan Auburn. Pretty interesting stuff here
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: with this Michigan team who had no problem handling their
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: business last night against Oregon. They're taking on an Auburn
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: team that he has a little pissed off here that
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: everyone has kind of mailed it in on them this
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: season once Bruce Pearl retired. Well, Bruce Pearl's son is
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the one running it, and you know what, they're doing
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a pretty good job here. I think this is going
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: to be one of the higher scoring games of the night.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I like the over in that one.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Pres Joe. Let's go to the mailback section, and before
• 49:12
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• 49:16
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• 50:05
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• 50:16
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• 50:18
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• 50:28
  Speaker 2: And let's face it, Brian Power is not that funny.
• 50:31
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• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Dude?
• 50:38
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• 50:41
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• 50:46
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• 50:49
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• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still the number one basketball handicapper. Way to
• 50:54
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• 50:58
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• 51:01
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• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Lloyd wants to know whiser so much hate on Sanders.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think we gave Sanders any hate yesterday. Are Yeah, well,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I mean we just call it what it is, right,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: well hate If the guy had an eight point seven
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: QBR and we're all acting like, oh boy, yeah, he's
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: gotta he's gonna run. If it wasn't for the ten
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: sacks by Miles Garrett and company, then they might not
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: have won that game. I'm just saying.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Joe David Gary writes forty nine Ers dead last in
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: sacks and pressure rate, Panthers win twenty seven twenty six.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Forget about the fact that he was wrong. Was I
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: what do you think of this Panther team really quick.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is one of the most
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: confusing teams I've ever seen in my betting life. They
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't expect them to be. I thought they'd
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: have a little more success. And by the way, how
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: many more interceptions from ball teams are we throwing in
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the end zone? I'm just curious how many times are
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: we going to get the ball and throw an interception
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: in the end zone. It was a little crazy the press.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Four interceptions. I think there were four interceptions and we
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: were only in the second quarter.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: H No, there were five total. Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and Twine Bennett, Chicago wins the division. I'm
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: not with them there. I think Detroit wins the division,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: or or even Green Bay before Chicago. I think they're
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: going to regress though.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: They're minus three point differential press and they're eight and three.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: At some point that's going to regress to the middle
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: and that's not going to be good for Chicago.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we have elf rights. Poor Brian. The
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• 53:43
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• 53:45
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• 53:51
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• 53:54
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• 53:57
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