Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Get Your Readers Out Tam (RHOC Recap)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Tees and
- 0:20Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Liz mccra. We've
- 0:26Speaker 2: got Liz mcbra. We are so excited. We are recapping
- 0:29Speaker 2: Orange County, which everybody knows. I have to like when
- 0:36Speaker 2: I'm recapping Orange County and Beverly Hills. The anxiety I
- 0:40Speaker 2: have when it comes to my friendships is like a ten.
- 0:44Speaker 3: That's all right, I'll feel in for you.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're both like, we don't care, we don't
- 0:48Speaker 2: care what you say. I'm like, uh huh. I can
- 0:51Speaker 2: see it in everybody's eyes when they don't like something
- 0:53Speaker 2: that I've said on the pod. But this first headline
- 0:56Speaker 2: is Shannon Bador was bothered at the Quiet Woman that
- 1:00Speaker 2: they didn't immediately compro meal with Andy Cohen. Shannon's coming
- 1:04Speaker 2: forward and saying there was no meltdown. That's not what
- 1:07Speaker 2: I heard. I've heard from very good sources. She had
- 1:10Speaker 2: a major melt down on the servers, on the manager
- 1:15Speaker 2: on and like she's notorious for kind of her behavior
- 1:23Speaker 2: towards production and behavior towards people. She's working with. So
- 1:28Speaker 2: do where do you think the truth lies here?
- 1:31Speaker 4: Oh the quiet woman Bill Gate. I think that these
- 1:37Speaker 4: are my feelings on it, and I.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Feel that.
- 1:42Speaker 4: Although if what she's saying is true, I feel like
- 1:47Speaker 4: it's kind of justified, you know what I mean.
- 1:50Speaker 3: If there's like.
- 1:53Speaker 4: A place that's getting recognition because of what it is,
- 1:57Speaker 4: you know, I think you should probably no questions asked, compact.
- 2:03Speaker 3: But I also feel like.
- 2:06Speaker 4: Anytime we make a big deal over a bill or
- 2:09Speaker 4: money something, it just gets icky.
- 2:12Speaker 3: It's icky, and.
- 2:16Speaker 4: You know, you quietly say it, maybe to yourself or
- 2:20Speaker 4: to your friends. But to make that a big deal,
- 2:23Speaker 4: I don't know, don't I don't know about I wasn't there.
- 2:27Speaker 3: I don't know about him me all down. I love
- 2:29Speaker 3: Andy's response to it.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I know what did he say? Again?
- 2:33Speaker 3: He can just do no wrong. In my book, he
- 2:35Speaker 3: was a prince. He went, there was no big deal.
- 2:39Speaker 3: It was a bill. I paid it.
- 2:40Speaker 4: Then they said they didn't want the bill, and I
- 2:43Speaker 4: gave a great tip and moving on.
- 2:46Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, who wants to make a
- 2:48Speaker 3: big deal over a bill, especially with that many people,
- 2:51Speaker 3: and it was so low.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Like four hundred and fifty bucks or something like.
- 2:55Speaker 4: Five hundred bucks or something. Yeah, I don't know. It's
- 2:58Speaker 4: almost like making a big deal on it. Nothing, But
- 3:01Speaker 4: I do get where she's coming from, where it shouldn't
- 3:05Speaker 4: have been.
- 3:05Speaker 3: But I also think that.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Perhaps I should have been discussed beforehand, if that was
- 3:13Speaker 4: something you know, you were apprehensive about or I didn't
- 3:17Speaker 4: didn't like.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like she was possibly looking for something
- 3:21Speaker 2: to be offended by that had nothing to do with her.
- 3:23Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, but possibly. The next one is Heather Dubro
- 3:28Speaker 2: shares her theory about Tamra and Shannon's feud. So, I mean,
- 3:32Speaker 2: this feud has been going on for I mean decades.
- 3:35Speaker 2: But Heather thinks that Shannon doesn't want viewers to know
- 3:38Speaker 2: she's gone good terms with Tamara because then fans that
- 3:41Speaker 2: have supported Shannon during the feud, she doesn't want to
- 3:44Speaker 2: disappoint them. Do you believe that to be true or
- 3:46Speaker 2: do you think, like, do you think that Tamara and
- 3:48Speaker 2: Shannon are closer than what we see on television because
- 3:54Speaker 2: Shannon doesn't want to show her real friendship.
- 3:59Speaker 4: I think, you know, I've thought about this. I'm not
- 4:03Speaker 4: I'm actually not sure. I'm actually you know, maybe there's
- 4:08Speaker 4: a part of her that wants to show apprehension because of.
- 4:14Speaker 3: You know, what she felt or what viewers felt.
- 4:20Speaker 2: I don't know, I know, and because the thing really
- 4:23Speaker 2: hard with Heather does kind of the same thing.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Because it is difficult, right, I mean, someone like me,
- 4:31Speaker 4: I'm not going to worry about that. I'm always going
- 4:34Speaker 4: to express the way I feel. But you know, I
- 4:39Speaker 4: also can see like the you know, you're wanting to
- 4:43Speaker 4: please viewers as well, so like your stuff somewhere in
- 4:47Speaker 4: the middle, and you're saying, I'm going to just take
- 4:50Speaker 4: this one step at a time.
- 4:53Speaker 3: I think there's definitely love there. How can they not be?
- 4:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so many there at least be like
- 5:01Speaker 2: that common bond of we've been in this together for
- 5:03Speaker 2: so long. But do you like there's some there's got
- 5:06Speaker 2: to be a part. I think when you've been doing
- 5:10Speaker 2: a show like this for so long and you've had
- 5:13Speaker 2: so many good moments but also so many terrible moments,
- 5:17Speaker 2: it probably is hard to move on. I mean, I'm
- 5:21Speaker 2: a little bit of a grud shoulder, so like it
- 5:23Speaker 2: would be hard for me to move.
- 5:24Speaker 4: On same and you know, you walk it. I think
- 5:30Speaker 4: that she's walking in with apprehension. I'm not sure if
- 5:34Speaker 4: it's to please anyone. I don't know, I really I
- 5:38Speaker 4: don't know. I think though at this point we're here together.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Fuck it, what do I have to lose? Yeah, Like,
- 5:47Speaker 3: if it goes south again, it goes south again.
- 5:50Speaker 2: I mean, you know, what's the worst it's gonna happen.
- 5:52Speaker 2: At this point, it's already happened, exactly exactly, the worst
- 5:57Speaker 2: has already happened. But the episode starts out and we're
- 6:00Speaker 2: at Gina's house so she and Emily can do tiktoks.
- 6:03Speaker 2: I feel some kind of way about tiktoks that made
- 6:07Speaker 2: me me a couple of yesterday at iHeart and I
- 6:09Speaker 2: feel so shameful afterwards.
- 6:11Speaker 3: I just it always feels to me so corny and contrived.
- 6:17Speaker 4: It is not my thing, whether it's a money maker
- 6:22Speaker 4: or whatever, like those tiktoks.
- 6:24Speaker 3: And reels, I'll go, it is not my thing.
- 6:28Speaker 4: So like to have an intervention that you're not doing
- 6:31Speaker 4: it to me is like silly, Like it's just not
- 6:36Speaker 4: my and it probably never will be. Like, I like
- 6:39Speaker 4: original content. I don't like to try to copy things
- 6:43Speaker 4: that have gone viral. And but you know, to Tamoro's defense.
- 6:48Speaker 4: I also understand that feeling of being left out not
- 6:53Speaker 4: included in the silly tiktoks, you know what I mean?
- 6:56Speaker 3: I get that.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Too well, because whenever the like group is doing something
- 7:02Speaker 2: and you're being left out, it doesn't matter if it's
- 7:04Speaker 2: a TikTok or going to even like do an event
- 7:07Speaker 2: that you don't even want to go to. Yeah, all
- 7:09Speaker 2: of a sudden, there's this moment of like, why wasn't
- 7:11Speaker 2: I invited?
- 7:11Speaker 3: Why didn't they think about exactly? And that's when you
- 7:15Speaker 3: have to dig really deep.
- 7:16Speaker 4: And say, just stay true to yourself, Just stay true
- 7:19Speaker 4: to yourself.
- 7:21Speaker 2: But I think they, like everybody, just wanted to behind
- 7:24Speaker 2: the scenes of Emily and Genus tiktoks because after the
- 7:27Speaker 2: TikTok then they exchange gifts. And I'm here to tell
- 7:31Speaker 2: you guys, I'm I don't have to get a gift
- 7:34Speaker 2: at my birthday. You don't have to bring stuff to
- 7:36Speaker 2: my house when you come, but I have no No
- 7:39Speaker 2: one needs to buy me a sweatshirt for two.
- 7:44Speaker 4: Like no, yeah, felt more like a gag gift or like,
- 7:48Speaker 4: you know, let's let's continue this fun like.
- 7:52Speaker 2: But kind of just poking at how how close we
- 7:56Speaker 2: are but I mean, would you rather a vibrate or
- 7:59Speaker 2: a sweatshirt for two? Probably a sweatshirt for two, but
- 8:10Speaker 2: I mean I want the do your bag.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Here's the thing with the door bag, and I am
- 8:18Speaker 3: I don't see an issue with it. I don't see
- 8:20Speaker 3: a problem with it. I am definitely.
- 8:24Speaker 4: In over the top gift giver like that is one
- 8:29Speaker 4: of my love languages.
- 8:30Speaker 3: It brings me joy.
- 8:33Speaker 4: I didn't see an issue with the gold door clutch whatsoever,
- 8:38Speaker 4: because I there was meaning in it. It's gold, right,
- 8:42Speaker 4: gold commemorates fifty years, fifty year anniversary, birthday whatever. There
- 8:48Speaker 4: was more actually more meaning in the gold clutch and
- 8:51Speaker 4: in the vibrator. But I get where she was coming
- 8:55Speaker 4: from because it's like, Okay, I'm new to the group.
- 9:00Speaker 3: In its housewives, let me present something.
- 9:03Speaker 4: That's you know, beautiful, classy and then you know kind of.
- 9:09Speaker 2: But I mean, rather see that than like, did you
- 9:13Speaker 2: watch Beverly Hills this last past season, then like when
- 9:16Speaker 2: Amanda came out and every time she's like, look at
- 9:19Speaker 2: my bad, Like, I would rather see somebody just coming
- 9:25Speaker 2: over and being like, yeah, I have fuck you money
- 9:27Speaker 2: so I can buy you whatever I want for your birthday.
- 9:29Speaker 2: And yeah, I.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Think I didn't see an issue with that.
- 9:33Speaker 4: I thought it was a beautiful gesture coupled with something
- 9:37Speaker 4: that was supposed to be funny.
- 9:40Speaker 3: You know, I didn't. I would not take offense to that.
- 9:44Speaker 4: If it were me, I I it'd be probably something
- 9:48Speaker 4: I gave. And she also coupled it with something that
- 9:52Speaker 4: could make people laugh. Like not, I wouldn't be offended
- 9:57Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form.
- 9:59Speaker 2: I kind of like Emily passed the baton to Gina
- 10:03Speaker 2: to have a problem with it, because Gina was never
- 10:06Speaker 2: over the top about the gift, like members said, I
- 10:08Speaker 2: had to open it in front of my kids and
- 10:10Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and all this happened, all right.
- 10:14Speaker 3: I didn't think of it, and then that, and.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, Gina is the one offended.
- 10:18Speaker 2: I'm like, Gina, you would want that bag as bad
- 10:20Speaker 2: as I would like, come on. But like, I think
- 10:23Speaker 2: she felt the need to create something more because of
- 10:27Speaker 2: a conversation that she had with Emily.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Yeah, now, if I were the friend, I'd be like,
- 10:33Speaker 3: good for you. You gotta can I borrow it? It
- 10:36Speaker 3: was cute, It wasn't It wasn't like, look it wasn't
- 10:39Speaker 3: a market you know it was.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was a.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Nice gesture, and I thought that they made a deal,
- 10:47Speaker 4: a big deal over something that didn't need.
- 10:50Speaker 3: To be made a big deal.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Well, I think it's like they're trying to show that.
- 10:53Speaker 2: And I think they show this later on in the episode,
- 10:57Speaker 2: that Carmela is trying so hard to get into this
- 10:59Speaker 2: friend group, like uh, Vicky keeps saying, Oh, well, I'm
- 11:03Speaker 2: going to catch her in a lie, or I'm going
- 11:05Speaker 2: to do this.
- 11:06Speaker 4: Or I hated that. I actually hated that. Why are
- 11:10Speaker 4: you so intent on catching her.
- 11:12Speaker 2: In a lie like and pretending you don't even know
- 11:14Speaker 2: her name?
- 11:15Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like that exclusive club shit. I just
- 11:19Speaker 4: don't include.
- 11:22Speaker 3: That's not my thing. I don't get it, like she's
- 11:25Speaker 3: new be kind.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Because the fuck she's trying to care where if she lives,
- 11:30Speaker 2: if she lives in Rancho Santa Fe or if she
- 11:32Speaker 2: lives in the OC, I mean, how the lives in
- 11:35Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, Like what does it matter? And not that
- 11:39Speaker 2: Beverly Hills housewife lives in Beverly Hills exactly?
- 11:43Speaker 3: Why why the need to be so territorial?
- 11:48Speaker 2: I mean I think that I guess. I guess that
- 11:50Speaker 2: just comes with like, I mean, I think sometimes Vicky
- 11:53Speaker 2: just doesn't have a filter and she just says whatever
- 11:56Speaker 2: she thinks. But I'm like, I mean, I've had conversations
- 11:59Speaker 2: about it. She really does think it. Like I'm like,
- 12:03Speaker 2: maybe she's joking.
- 12:05Speaker 3: No, I can't really, I just can't really, I can't.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Well. The Gen shares with Tamra and Heather that she
- 12:24Speaker 2: confronted her son about his speeding ticket. The entire scene
- 12:29Speaker 2: last week about the speeding ticket, that was a lot
- 12:34Speaker 2: for me to watch, Like, because it's the sun involved,
- 12:37Speaker 2: it felt a little stagy to me in general.
- 12:42Speaker 4: You know, when it's danger involved, I get it.
- 12:48Speaker 3: I you know, I get it. I get the significance
- 12:51Speaker 3: of it.
- 12:54Speaker 2: But also it's changer and your kid and now you're
- 12:56Speaker 2: talking about it on TV. It's just it's gonna to
- 13:00Speaker 2: get messy.
- 13:01Speaker 4: It was the conversation this week about it was heavy,
- 13:07Speaker 4: and my heart really felt for him.
- 13:10Speaker 3: I know, it just did. I felt for him. It
- 13:14Speaker 3: was palpable and wanted Doe and I would.
- 13:20Speaker 4: Have like to see because he had a few things
- 13:24Speaker 4: going on right.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was his dad, relationship with his dad.
- 13:31Speaker 4: The dvorce, not seeing the dad as much, but then
- 13:34Speaker 4: like the the bullying kind of thing, or you know,
- 13:39Speaker 4: people being not kind of him. I would have liked
- 13:42Speaker 4: to see strategy towards resolution instead.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Of just crying into your hands and like I'm so yeah,
- 13:50Speaker 2: like this hurts me, Like this isn't about you, this
- 13:56Speaker 2: is about him.
- 13:57Speaker 4: And I wanted to see a little more strength for
- 13:59Speaker 4: the kids and I because my heart really felt for him.
- 14:04Speaker 4: He was so cute and I get it and I
- 14:06Speaker 4: get why she felt sad, But in that moment, sometimes
- 14:10Speaker 4: you're going to be stronger than than your kid your
- 14:14Speaker 4: feelings to show up for your kid.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. Sometimes you got to just grin
- 14:20Speaker 2: and bear it and then help them feel like it's okay.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Yeah you're going to get see the tools you're you
- 14:28Speaker 2: put it as.
- 14:29Speaker 4: I would have liked to see some kind of strategy
- 14:32Speaker 4: toward what's really going on and how do we move
- 14:35Speaker 4: past it?
- 14:36Speaker 3: Yeah, how do we help you navigate past it?
- 14:39Speaker 2: Well? Then Tamor and Heather remind Jen that every kid
- 14:42Speaker 2: reacts and handles divorced differently, which is I think is true.
- 14:46Speaker 2: I think like some people's kids, it affects them later
- 14:49Speaker 2: in life. Some people they start acting out right away.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Some it seems like it doesn't bother them. Like for me,
- 14:56Speaker 2: it's just made me a less like cuddly, warm person,
- 14:59Speaker 2: you know, like you know, it just really depends.
- 15:04Speaker 4: But then I'm reminding them that this is fucking common,
- 15:10Speaker 4: This goes on more times than not.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Most kids do go through this. How do we help
- 15:21Speaker 3: you get through it easier?
- 15:23Speaker 2: And I've also heard that it's better for kids to
- 15:27Speaker 2: see parents split up well then fight in the home.
- 15:33Speaker 4: Correct then to stay and witness all the dysfunction and toxicity.
- 15:38Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's better.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think kind of in this moment, at
- 15:43Speaker 2: this workout, uh, we see that Jen has it's kind
- 15:50Speaker 2: of stirring the pot when it comes to Taramorah and Heather,
- 15:54Speaker 2: And I'm kind of wondering because, like we have to remember,
- 15:58Speaker 2: up until the season, Jen has been going hard at
- 16:01Speaker 2: Tamra and now all of a sudden she's done at
- 16:02Speaker 2: complete one eighty and I'm like, what's happening here? And
- 16:08Speaker 2: then Heather's getting not so great at it? And I
- 16:13Speaker 2: think we're missing we have to be missing something.
- 16:16Speaker 3: That I can't be missing something so.
- 16:21Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Jen was really looking out for
- 16:25Speaker 4: Tamra's best interest in the thing.
- 16:29Speaker 3: I think that she was more looking.
- 16:35Speaker 4: For Heather to be accountable and to go after Tamra
- 16:43Speaker 4: when it was very clear that Heather was just wanting
- 16:47Speaker 4: to move on.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Heather's like, you don't want to hear
- 16:49Speaker 2: my thoughts, don't ask me the question.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Yeah, and she was like, well, when are you going
- 16:54Speaker 4: to do it? How are you going to do it? Like, yeah,
- 16:58Speaker 4: it seemed kind of contrived, seem like it seemed like
- 17:02Speaker 4: someone who wanted someone else to go in at it.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like somebody who like didn't want to
- 17:08Speaker 2: get their hands dirty. But they're like, all right, I'm
- 17:10Speaker 2: gonna throw all this information at these two and let
- 17:13Speaker 2: them implode. But they didn't. But then I'm like, I
- 17:16Speaker 2: feel like.
- 17:16Speaker 4: I loved by the way, and I loved how Heather
- 17:19Speaker 4: said she's not letting it go every time we talk,
- 17:24Speaker 4: like you know, in Heather, it was clear she wanted
- 17:27Speaker 4: to form a bond with Jen, and then Jen used
- 17:32Speaker 4: this hole, she's.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Not being forthright about Tamra, And that was very plan
- 17:40Speaker 3: to me.
- 17:41Speaker 4: But it also like it felt like trying to dig
- 17:45Speaker 4: into something that, like, you know that wasn't real. Yeah,
- 17:49Speaker 4: I agree, And it's like she won't stop asking me.
- 17:54Speaker 3: You bring Tamra up at every turn.
- 17:57Speaker 2: And so then my mind goes back to has seasons
- 18:00Speaker 2: when Tamra has said Jen has done certain things, you know,
- 18:06Speaker 2: towards me, or has followed my lead on certain things,
- 18:10Speaker 2: or has maybe worn my extensions in her head, I
- 18:14Speaker 2: mean those types of things, and I'm like, well is
- 18:17Speaker 2: it true? Then I got like I become a conspiracy theorist.
- 18:20Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe this was her plan all along. Now
- 18:24Speaker 2: she's going to be close with Tamra, and then when
- 18:26Speaker 2: is this she gonna hit the fan?
- 18:29Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't. I don't think so.
- 18:32Speaker 3: I think, you know, she probabably wanted to be close
- 18:36Speaker 3: with her. I mean, let's face it, Tamra's an icon.
- 18:39Speaker 3: But I don't.
- 18:41Speaker 4: I don't know it wasn't an opportunity at the at
- 18:44Speaker 4: the hairstylist who happen to have the extensions?
- 18:47Speaker 1: Right?
- 18:47Speaker 2: Yeah? True, true?
- 18:49Speaker 3: Right?
- 18:50Speaker 4: Like I don't think that. I don't know that there's
- 18:54Speaker 4: like a crazy obsession there.
- 18:56Speaker 3: I think that she's trying to make her name.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, I think she's trying to make a spot
- 19:03Speaker 2: for herself. Yeah. Then Heather shares that she had an
- 19:07Speaker 2: intervention with Shannon to tell her how often her social
- 19:10Speaker 2: media is Tamar then calls out Heather for always leaving
- 19:14Speaker 2: her out of TikTok, saying it feels like Heather is
- 19:17Speaker 2: trying to hide their friendship. So We're like seeing this
- 19:19Speaker 2: plot like go over and over again, and I'm like,
- 19:22Speaker 2: where are we? I need to find out what happened
- 19:25Speaker 2: before this, Like what was happening at that gym? What
- 19:29Speaker 2: was happening, Like, there's no way this conversation is starting
- 19:34Speaker 2: right from here in TikTok.
- 19:37Speaker 3: I think Tim or may have those feelings that people
- 19:40Speaker 3: leave her out or exclude her on purpose. She has those.
- 19:45Speaker 4: Feelings, yeah, and those are the shit about the Tiktoks
- 19:49Speaker 4: or not.
- 19:50Speaker 3: She has those feelings. And in the same ruth, I
- 19:55Speaker 3: feel like.
- 19:57Speaker 4: Heather was like, no, I'm going to show you, let's
- 20:00Speaker 4: do it, and Tim is not super interested. No one really,
- 20:05Speaker 4: I mean not no one most people, but I get
- 20:08Speaker 4: that she doesn't. Really, It's it's not the point. The
- 20:11Speaker 4: point's more about being inclusive.
- 20:14Speaker 2: And feeling like you're not trying to you're not trying
- 20:18Speaker 2: to have to work so hard to get back to
- 20:22Speaker 2: where it used to be when like you assumed you
- 20:24Speaker 2: already are back there and they're giving you the illusion.
- 20:27Speaker 3: That you are.
- 20:28Speaker 2: But I mean, I agreed with Jen, It's just I
- 20:30Speaker 2: don't think she's the correct messenger correct.
- 20:34Speaker 3: I feel the same way.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Like absolutely, not her place, not her feel the.
- 20:38Speaker 4: Same way, y'all, Like I get it, like saying like
- 20:44Speaker 4: wanting to throw up the red flag. But yeah, it
- 20:48Speaker 4: was like, go, it's not that serious. You know, we
- 20:52Speaker 4: all say shit, we all and they came into this
- 20:55Speaker 4: season China, yep, fresh, I go back.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Yeah. But then Vicky goes to lunch with her son.
- 21:05Speaker 2: She questions if he's ever gonna have kids and if
- 21:07Speaker 2: they should breeze a sperm. This, I mean, this is
- 21:10Speaker 2: a conversation I feel like moms do have with their
- 21:13Speaker 2: sons as they're getting older and they're not you know,
- 21:16Speaker 2: like I mean, I feel like I would probably have
- 21:19Speaker 2: that conversation with my son, like are you gonna want kids?
- 21:22Speaker 2: Or are you going to not get that? But I didn't
- 21:25Speaker 2: realize that him and his sister haven't spoken in years.
- 21:29Speaker 4: See, well they've she said, they've spoken, they have seen each.
- 21:34Speaker 3: They haven't seen each other. That's a long time. That's
- 21:38Speaker 3: a long time.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Eight years is a very think about how much your
- 21:43Speaker 2: life has changed in eight years, or like how much
- 21:46Speaker 2: your kids have grown in eight years, Like it's a
- 21:49Speaker 2: wild amount of time to me, Like, and you can't
- 21:52Speaker 2: use space as an excuse because like, yes, my family
- 21:56Speaker 2: lives on the East Coast. I live over here. We
- 21:59Speaker 2: see each other a couple of times a year, and
- 22:00Speaker 2: we talk on the phone all the time.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Pretty normal.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we all do our best to get
- 22:06Speaker 2: to each other when we can.
- 22:08Speaker 4: She said, they FaceTime all the time. They but it's
- 22:12Speaker 4: not the same. I mean, I don't know.
- 22:15Speaker 2: I'm wondering. I don't know. I don't believe it.
- 22:18Speaker 3: I wondered. But and I get her wanting to know
- 22:23Speaker 3: when do you want? When are you having kids?
- 22:25Speaker 4: You know, you don't realize it till you're the sage
- 22:29Speaker 4: and that's what's on your mind, like let's let's next.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think Also the surprising thing for
- 22:35Speaker 2: me with Vicky is how she's so like she's in
- 22:37Speaker 2: a relationship with somebody else. He's talking to her about
- 22:40Speaker 2: wanting to get engaged and he has the ring already
- 22:43Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. But yet Vicky is on camera
- 22:45Speaker 2: getting emotional, saying she regrets divorcing Don Don. So it's
- 22:50Speaker 2: like it's hard for me to see, like wrap my
- 22:54Speaker 2: head around that.
- 22:55Speaker 3: I mean, can do they can it both exist? Did once?
- 23:01Speaker 4: Like, you know, she regrets divorcing Don because she regrets
- 23:07Speaker 4: breaking up the family essentially, but also needed to look
- 23:13Speaker 4: on into her own happiness.
- 23:17Speaker 2: But I mean, it's not great that Vicky has talked
- 23:20Speaker 2: more about Don this season than her boyfriend. I don't
- 23:23Speaker 2: even know her boyfriend's name. Maybe it's Michael, isn't Michael.
- 23:26Speaker 3: I think it's Michael. I loves Michael. But maybe we
- 23:33Speaker 3: haven't seen yet.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we're going to get like a when they
- 23:38Speaker 2: go to Palm Springs or something. But then tam Ridton
- 23:41Speaker 2: and Carmela go to drinks. Carmela says she doesn't understand
- 23:45Speaker 2: why Emily and Gina are making such a big deal
- 23:48Speaker 2: out of the do your bag and the dildo. I
- 23:50Speaker 2: agree with her, and I kind of love Carmela.
- 23:53Speaker 3: Yeah, we agree on this. I agree with her as well.
- 23:56Speaker 4: I don't see why it's being me su What if
- 23:59Speaker 4: she didn't bring anything.
- 24:00Speaker 3: Oh what a loser. She didn't bring up.
- 24:04Speaker 2: You know what I mean, but didn't even care enough
- 24:07Speaker 2: to like. And then they do like a flashback of
- 24:12Speaker 2: you know, like Jen warns her that Ginas are extremely
- 24:15Speaker 2: close and Gina may be protective of her because her
- 24:18Speaker 2: gift wasn't as expensive. I'm like, it's not that deep
- 24:21Speaker 2: and I wouldn't care at all, Like I have some
- 24:25Speaker 2: friends that give me expensive gifts and some friends that
- 24:27Speaker 2: give me gaget like it is what it is.
- 24:29Speaker 4: Yes, listen, here's the thing. If it's gonna if your
- 24:33Speaker 4: bag is gonna buy your friend or come between your friendship,
- 24:39Speaker 4: then it's not as.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Close as you think.
- 24:41Speaker 4: Like yeah, to beat that territorial, just be happy your
- 24:45Speaker 4: friend got.
- 24:46Speaker 3: A nice gift.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Just be happy, but.
- 24:49Speaker 4: Happy your friend got a nice gift. How is it
- 24:52Speaker 4: even is?
- 24:53Speaker 3: Shoe Teddy?
- 24:54Speaker 2: I don't understand. And I also like, I can't really
- 24:59Speaker 2: understand the distin that anyone has for Carmela because what
- 25:02Speaker 2: we've seen her her so far, Like we've seen her
- 25:05Speaker 2: with her kids, we've seen her talk about her ex,
- 25:08Speaker 2: we've seen her talk about infidelity, like she's seems like
- 25:12Speaker 2: a pretty open book and she also isn't like a tryhard.
- 25:15Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like like she's not trying to be
- 25:17Speaker 2: like when they like pan back to her saying she
- 25:20Speaker 2: pays thirty five thousand dollars a month for rent a
- 25:22Speaker 2: month like.
- 25:23Speaker 4: But she's also not a wallflower, which I love. You
- 25:27Speaker 4: can you can see that, you know?
- 25:31Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 25:32Speaker 4: And what she does for work is pretty legit and
- 25:36Speaker 4: I respect it and.
- 25:38Speaker 2: I know what, But then why is Gina trying to
- 25:41Speaker 2: minimize it? When Gina is such a hustler as well?
- 25:44Speaker 2: So it's like, why can't we all do well and
- 25:47Speaker 2: be proud of ourselves?
- 25:48Speaker 4: Like? I could not agree more. I love what she
- 25:54Speaker 4: when she said why depend on a man?
- 25:58Speaker 3: She well, I'm I'm paraphrasing. Why depend on a man
- 26:04Speaker 3: when you can do it yourself?
- 26:06Speaker 2: Yeah? I love it.
- 26:08Speaker 3: I love that.
- 26:10Speaker 4: And what she explained she did who kiss about semantic?
- 26:14Speaker 4: So she said developer or flipper? Who gives a ship?
- 26:18Speaker 3: She did it on her own, and the.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Scene with her clients seemed legit, like a lot.
- 26:24Speaker 4: Of them like yeah, and she had to get she
- 26:27Speaker 4: did it well.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Yeah, so even if she gets, she knows what she's
- 26:32Speaker 2: talking about.
- 26:33Speaker 4: I'm a realtor, I've been a realator for like twenty
- 26:37Speaker 4: five years.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she has she has the gift of
- 26:40Speaker 2: gab and like.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Does and I did it well too, eating out of.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Her hand by the end. But I just we're starting
- 26:48Speaker 2: to get We're starting to get to like the major
- 26:52Speaker 2: part of the episode is once we get to camera's house,
- 26:54Speaker 2: but before that, we go while watching which I I'm like,
- 26:58Speaker 2: oh gosh, I'm sure you would have that while watching event.
- 27:01Speaker 3: I left so hard when Vicky went can we leave soon?
- 27:06Speaker 3: It was her event. She planned it. She's like, can
- 27:09Speaker 3: we leave soon?
- 27:10Speaker 2: I also noticed no one how to drink, no one
- 27:12Speaker 2: had to drink, And did you notice that there were
- 27:14Speaker 2: other people on the boat, like not from Housewives? Like
- 27:18Speaker 2: when they were entering, there's a bunch of people like
- 27:24Speaker 2: like yeah, I'm so yeah, why are we happening? Yeah?
- 27:28Speaker 3: Because it was really funny it was.
- 27:31Speaker 2: And then she's like, I just thought we would do
- 27:33Speaker 2: some bonding time. And you can tell she's just trying
- 27:36Speaker 2: to mock the cameras at the you know, like you're
- 27:38Speaker 2: just like, oh gosh. But this is where Vicky really
- 27:42Speaker 2: leans into her thoughts about Carmela.
- 27:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like like the whole. She took her
- 27:48Speaker 4: clothes off for men. I I don't like that n
- 27:53Speaker 4: my way, but I am not. I don't like ever
- 27:58Speaker 4: trying to shame anymore.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Like the judgment, the judgment, and like also, I mean,
- 28:07Speaker 2: we've all been on a reality television show. Let's be clear.
- 28:11Speaker 2: It's not much different than being on Playboy.
- 28:15Speaker 4: It's like, exactly, it's low brown to speak on it,
- 28:21Speaker 4: I think.
- 28:22Speaker 3: And I didn't think.
- 28:24Speaker 4: Heather was all wrong when she said, you're saying it
- 28:27Speaker 4: in a derogatory manner.
- 28:29Speaker 3: I didn't.
- 28:31Speaker 4: That's not something i'd ever like. You know, for me,
- 28:34Speaker 4: it's more about character.
- 28:36Speaker 2: But I think the one thing that Vicky can be
- 28:38Speaker 2: very consistent about is being judgmental of a newbie.
- 28:43Speaker 3: That's true, it's not did not disappoint.
- 28:46Speaker 2: She was like, I'm holding very true to this, but
- 28:51Speaker 2: you can kind of see that the other women are
- 28:53Speaker 2: like shit, Vicky, Like you're really going hard on this girl,
- 28:56Speaker 2: and do you even know her at all? Like at
- 28:59Speaker 2: this point, I don't really remember them having any sort
- 29:02Speaker 2: of correspondence.
- 29:05Speaker 4: No, I guess I don't either. Yeah, she's consistent, except
- 29:09Speaker 4: for I think Shannon might be the only new bee
- 29:13Speaker 4: she tip.
- 29:14Speaker 2: To Oh Shannon loves saying that.
- 29:18Speaker 3: She might be the only no Bee she ever tipped too.
- 29:22Speaker 2: And then they're like, are you whatever was? Are you
- 29:24Speaker 2: a piscy? It's like, yes, I knew it. Yes, Queen,
- 29:27Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god.
- 29:30Speaker 4: But that you know, think looking back, that might have
- 29:33Speaker 4: been just advantageous in that season.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have just been what she needed. And
- 29:40Speaker 2: we also have to remember the place that Shannon it
- 29:43Speaker 2: was in at that point. But then Shannon. I loved
- 29:46Speaker 2: when Shannon goes to Tamars to help decorate for her
- 29:49Speaker 2: party and then when she says when tamer says they're
- 29:52Speaker 2: going to play friend in a box, Shannon's like, so
- 29:55Speaker 2: pretty much for playing friend in a fight, Like that's
- 29:57Speaker 2: gonna fight tonight.
- 29:59Speaker 4: She's like, that's like a guaranteed fight. I this is
- 30:03Speaker 4: what I love about Tamara this season. So she's way lighter, right,
- 30:09Speaker 4: I feel like she's way lighter, and she's she's it's
- 30:14Speaker 4: easier for her to take criticism and she's laughing at herself.
- 30:18Speaker 3: She's taking it well, but.
- 30:22Speaker 4: It didn't take away her edge because she still played
- 30:26Speaker 4: the game a friend in a box.
- 30:28Speaker 3: She still laughed, you know what I mean?
- 30:30Speaker 2: Like when Shannon said it to her, you could hear
- 30:32Speaker 2: like Tama's real one hundred percent laugh about.
- 30:43Speaker 4: I've dr because she shows that she's not just selling
- 30:48Speaker 4: this persona of I'm good through and through, I'm getting
- 30:51Speaker 4: two shoes. Like she still played the game. She's still
- 30:56Speaker 4: at her edge. She's still at her Tamra edge.
- 30:59Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was really happy this thing.
- 31:02Speaker 2: No, I thought that was a nice moment. And then
- 31:05Speaker 2: it was like it did remind me of like past
- 31:07Speaker 2: years when Shannon would help decorate, and like that reminds
- 31:11Speaker 2: me of the good times. But then all the women
- 31:14Speaker 2: start to come into the house and Vicky takes another
- 31:20Speaker 2: day at Carmela, claiming she doesn't really live in the
- 31:23Speaker 2: OC and is calling her career a flipper and administrative
- 31:27Speaker 2: assistant at the front desk. I don't like that, Vicky,
- 31:32Speaker 2: you are a businesswoman.
- 31:35Speaker 3: I don't like it.
- 31:36Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't like it.
- 31:39Speaker 3: It reads jealous to me.
- 31:42Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't read right. And then and she and.
- 31:47Speaker 3: What was it?
- 31:49Speaker 4: Heather's like, well, no, she does and she works to
- 31:52Speaker 4: Oppenheimer and she's been there, right, Yeah, I don't like it.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Why it almost it reads a little bit like Jel, Like,
- 32:03Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't be pissed if I had thirty
- 32:07Speaker 2: five thousand dollars a month apartment that was my second home.
- 32:10Speaker 2: That and I was a tall, beautiful playboy mate. I
- 32:14Speaker 2: think I'd be all right with myself. But then outside,
- 32:19Speaker 2: Emily tells Jin that Heather thinks Jen is obsessed with camera.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Jen calls out Heather for being fake, but like nobody's
- 32:29Speaker 2: really picking up on like they're all kind of just
- 32:32Speaker 2: letting it fly here, like they're like okay, So then
- 32:34Speaker 2: they have to get the game going to actually try
- 32:37Speaker 2: to hate that.
- 32:38Speaker 3: I get somebody I hate the game.
- 32:42Speaker 2: It's like, never have I ever hate the game.
- 32:45Speaker 4: Because if you just let it roll, I think it
- 32:48Speaker 4: would be so much worse, you know, much more compelling,
- 32:52Speaker 4: because it's thirty more.
- 32:53Speaker 2: Minutes and one more drink and we're going to get
- 32:56Speaker 2: there on our own. I promise you exactly.
- 33:00Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 33:02Speaker 2: So they start playing Friend in a Box and to
- 33:05Speaker 2: see where the girls all stand with each other. And
- 33:09Speaker 2: I kind of loved when Heather's like, of course I'm
- 33:12Speaker 2: gonna have my feelings hurt. I always get my feelings
- 33:14Speaker 2: hurt because like I always get my feelings hurt, and
- 33:17Speaker 2: I was like, I would like, no matter how much
- 33:21Speaker 2: I would try to take it on the chin, I
- 33:24Speaker 2: know that like afterwards I would overthink it.
- 33:26Speaker 4: But that was like a beautiful vulnerability that she's just wait,
- 33:30Speaker 4: even just saying it.
- 33:32Speaker 3: You know, she didn't have to. She could have said,
- 33:35Speaker 3: you all come out to me, because she didn't. She said,
- 33:38Speaker 3: I always get my feelings hurt. I like that.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Yeah, not taking yourself too seriously. Yeah, I liked it too.
- 33:44Speaker 2: But it starts off where Tamra opens has to open
- 33:47Speaker 2: her box first, and we already have some fancy pants
- 33:50Speaker 2: moments where like fancy pants wants to make sure her
- 33:53Speaker 2: meat isn't too well.
- 33:54Speaker 3: Done, well done. The car sat of place, like come on,
- 34:02Speaker 3: and Vicky goes.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Really like my wtself like at any time I'm at
- 34:15Speaker 2: a stake place and I'm like, can I have a
- 34:17Speaker 2: well done with the side of a one sauce?
- 34:24Speaker 3: Same?
- 34:25Speaker 4: It's like, but in that moment, right so you know,
- 34:29Speaker 4: from the other side of the camera you have filming,
- 34:31Speaker 4: it's the last thing on your mind.
- 34:33Speaker 3: Just take it and have a couple of bites.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Like you're not You're not gonna be.
- 34:40Speaker 3: Any pieces less well done, and.
- 34:43Speaker 2: It was like raw sitting there. I was like, I'm
- 34:46Speaker 2: pretty sure there isn't anything well done right here.
- 34:49Speaker 3: Vicky made me laugh, and that they made.
- 34:52Speaker 2: Me laugh with that, really really, but they're all very
- 35:08Speaker 2: paranoid about eating on the white couch, which I would
- 35:11Speaker 2: be too, because I would be the one that spells
- 35:12Speaker 2: on it. But then they they start playing them, they
- 35:16Speaker 2: move themselves outside. They've gotten through eating, they have already
- 35:20Speaker 2: decorated their friends in the box, and now they're opening
- 35:24Speaker 2: them and Tamra has to read from Shannon. She's walking
- 35:28Speaker 2: on eggshells. The then the friend I love deeply but
- 35:34Speaker 2: then hurts me deeply. I'm like, who, what's deeply? Twice
- 35:37Speaker 2: in one sentence?
- 35:38Speaker 3: Yeah, too much?
- 35:39Speaker 2: But she couldn't And then I was like laughing at
- 35:41Speaker 2: tam I'm like, get your freaking readers out, tam because
- 35:44Speaker 2: you can't even see what this says.
- 35:46Speaker 4: I just deeply, wait, deeply, that's me.
- 35:53Speaker 3: I'm so blind. I can't see or read a thing.
- 35:57Speaker 2: I can't like this in her.
- 36:00Speaker 3: It's deeply, it's it's it's it's much. It's a bit much.
- 36:04Speaker 2: But then Tarma's like, I'm fine with that. Yeah, she's
- 36:10Speaker 2: like I'm fine with that, everybody said, and then Gina's like,
- 36:13Speaker 2: this is making me nervous. I don't understand how this
- 36:17Speaker 2: is happening. And then Gina gets all these positive accolades
- 36:21Speaker 2: like boss, babe, survivor, role model, not shitster, no, not shitster,
- 36:29Speaker 2: the friend I love that in love with even when
- 36:32Speaker 2: we disagree, like Gina is not getting one thing that's
- 36:36Speaker 2: not a positive, like Gene's going home with a little
- 36:38Speaker 2: pep in her step after this box. Then Emily gets
- 36:43Speaker 2: I don't know, something feels different to me about Emily
- 36:47Speaker 2: this season, but she gets to analyze her heart on
- 36:51Speaker 2: the outside, soft in the middle the interrogator, I think
- 36:55Speaker 2: Emily is like, I mean, she's on one of our
- 36:59Speaker 2: our podcasts. I think she or you know, she's she's excellent,
- 37:04Speaker 2: a gift of gap, and it just kind of seems
- 37:07Speaker 2: like she's upset this season.
- 37:10Speaker 3: She seems a little sad. Yeah she looks fucking tremendous.
- 37:15Speaker 2: Yeah she looks amazing, looks.
- 37:17Speaker 4: So good, and she's so beautiful. You do this like
- 37:23Speaker 4: this is a bit of a like maybe I don't
- 37:27Speaker 4: know the emotion sadness.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Maybe I can't. I can't, I can't tell if it's
- 37:33Speaker 2: stress or sadness, but I can feel like.
- 37:37Speaker 3: In the moment what we're used to.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Yeah. Then, like even when she like tells her jokes
- 37:42Speaker 2: or does her singers or any of those things, it
- 37:44Speaker 2: doesn't feel like the d lay of the past to me.
- 37:47Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like her mind is split. She's somewhere
- 37:50Speaker 3: else maybe.
- 37:51Speaker 2: And maybe she's thinking about her son and her daughter,
- 37:54Speaker 2: you know, like she's Yeah, she said she's trying to
- 37:56Speaker 2: be more present with her kids, so maybe she's when
- 37:59Speaker 2: she's filming, that's where her head is. And you know what,
- 38:02Speaker 2: I've been there, I get it. But like I do
- 38:05Speaker 2: feel a little bit of a difference in Emily this season.
- 38:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I did too. It's funny I say that I
- 38:10Speaker 3: did too. Like Emily, I do too.
- 38:15Speaker 2: And I think she's so smart and so clever, and
- 38:18Speaker 2: I hope whatever is going on with her goes away
- 38:20Speaker 2: because nobody wants to feel like that.
- 38:25Speaker 3: No, I know, it's weird you say that. I felt
- 38:28Speaker 3: that too. It's nothing she really said or did it was.
- 38:32Speaker 3: It's just kind of a just a gun eotions thing.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Yeah, Like not like I felt like before she would
- 38:40Speaker 2: almost enjoy when she would be able to like strike out,
- 38:43Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, I have a little push, but
- 38:46Speaker 2: it just looks like she's like her heart's not in it.
- 38:50Speaker 2: But then Vicky gets who's a hustler, boss babe. But
- 38:54Speaker 2: Emily also calls her a Debbie Dan. He's like, I'm
- 38:57Speaker 2: not a debut da, don't call me a Debi Dan
- 39:01Speaker 2: down I just have an injured knee. I'm like, I'm
- 39:04Speaker 2: sure it's the knee. Sure it's the indee.
- 39:10Speaker 3: I feel like Emily regretted saying she wrote it, I
- 39:16Speaker 3: am not the life of the body.
- 39:20Speaker 2: I'm ready to whoop it up. So I'm gonna whoop
- 39:21Speaker 2: it up. But like you know that Vicky is not
- 39:25Speaker 2: going to let this go. No, it's not the last
- 39:29Speaker 2: we hear about Debbie Downer.
- 39:30Speaker 4: No, I'm actually glad someone said it because then it
- 39:33Speaker 4: will further back.
- 39:35Speaker 2: Because it's also kind of just a funny thing to say.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Then Heather, we get to Heather's box and Tamra calls
- 39:42Speaker 2: her a social bestie, which as essentially as that's her
- 39:48Speaker 2: dig right back.
- 39:48Speaker 4: Well, that's her, that's her zing after what Jen said
- 39:52Speaker 4: and how you know she might be feeling that social
- 39:56Speaker 4: vestie and doesn't want to really cross the line.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Yeah, And then Emily says Heather talks a lot, and
- 40:02Speaker 2: then Jennifer confronts Heather over saying she's obsessed with Tamra.
- 40:06Speaker 2: I feel like Jen, thou who protests too much?
- 40:13Speaker 3: That phrase? I just sat that a lot.
- 40:16Speaker 2: You did. Sorry, you try.
- 40:20Speaker 4: To explain yourself. You say nothing and you're being you're
- 40:24Speaker 4: hiding something. We try to explain yourself. Thou dost protest
- 40:29Speaker 4: too much?
- 40:30Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, it's I mean, but that's the whole
- 40:32Speaker 2: point of this show. It's conflict and resolution and our
- 40:36Speaker 2: opinions and like we're gonna have different opinions, Like everyone
- 40:40Speaker 2: has different opinions that watch Like some people are going
- 40:42Speaker 2: to listen to this pod and be like, I totally
- 40:44Speaker 2: disagree with Teddy on this, and they'll be.
- 40:47Speaker 3: Oh, rich, Liz, Oh, isn't this rich? Unhinged?
- 40:56Speaker 2: No figures Teddy would have on the assholes.
- 41:03Speaker 3: It's because Dolores.
- 41:05Speaker 2: It's only because Dolores is out of town. It will
- 41:07Speaker 2: never happen.
- 41:08Speaker 3: Again, Teddy with Joy.
- 41:16Speaker 2: Well, then Jennifer gets that she's the peacemaker, the hype
- 41:21Speaker 2: girl and understanding and kind I'm like peacemaker who wrote
- 41:26Speaker 2: that in their box this season.
- 41:27Speaker 4: I feel like any time someone has the peacemaker role,
- 41:32Speaker 4: they're really not They're really they're truly.
- 41:35Speaker 3: The fucking shitster.
- 41:38Speaker 2: You're pushing it out.
- 41:41Speaker 3: I'm very agreed, but I don't know about that the
- 41:43Speaker 3: peacemaker role.
- 41:45Speaker 4: The traditional peacemaker role is the one who's really stern behind.
- 41:51Speaker 2: The scenes, the puppet master. But then Shannon gets healthy boundaries,
- 41:57Speaker 2: work and progress kind but holds grudges. Tamor believes Shannon
- 42:01Speaker 2: genuinely wants to move forward, but still has her walls up.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Then the two end the night with a heartfelt moment
- 42:07Speaker 2: as Tamer gives Shannonis to say our apology. I love this.
- 42:11Speaker 4: I loft that actually cried when she said I cried
- 42:15Speaker 4: when you, you know, offered to come in it. I
- 42:18Speaker 4: actually cried. It was the olive France.
- 42:20Speaker 3: I cried. I liked that.
- 42:23Speaker 2: I liked that they needed it, like we've been waiting.
- 42:25Speaker 2: I feel like we've been waiting for this for two years,
- 42:28Speaker 2: and the fact that they're finally at least making baby steps.
- 42:32Speaker 4: And now that the pressure's off, let's see how it
- 42:36Speaker 4: goes organically, right.
- 42:39Speaker 3: I actually loved this.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it, and I thought it was a
- 42:42Speaker 2: great way to end it. I feel like this was
- 42:46Speaker 2: definitely one of those episodes that could have been condensed
- 42:49Speaker 2: into just the night at Tamras. Like, yeah, you're like,
- 42:54Speaker 2: why why did I need to see whales? Why did
- 42:57Speaker 2: I need to see this?
- 42:58Speaker 3: Like who heads in a sweatshirt?
- 43:00Speaker 2: Yeah, like the entire like crux of the evening happened
- 43:03Speaker 2: at that dinner at Tama's house.
- 43:06Speaker 3: But like it was good too.
- 43:08Speaker 2: It was a good episode. I feel like we're getting
- 43:11Speaker 2: kind of a handle on how the each of the
- 43:13Speaker 2: women are going to be this season, because what episode
- 43:16Speaker 2: we're on. We're on four, episode four, so like.
- 43:22Speaker 3: To see white Hat where it goes.
- 43:25Speaker 2: I'm surprised we haven't seen the husbands more.
- 43:29Speaker 3: That's right, we really haven't.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Normally they're pretty involved.
- 43:35Speaker 4: Well maybe that means they have more of a heavy
- 43:37Speaker 4: presence later in this season.
- 43:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true. But thank you for so
- 43:44Speaker 2: much for coming on and doing this with me, and
- 43:47Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. And I'm so glad that you're
- 43:50Speaker 2: an avid watcher, so we can give you a call.
- 43:54Speaker 4: When you said I watch all of them, I'm like,
- 43:56Speaker 4: I watch all of them, every single one all these
- 44:00Speaker 4: years and I don't think I've missed any.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Are you gonna watch the Sassy Show?
- 44:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna watch it all. Yeah, of course I'm
- 44:08Speaker 3: about to watch somebody sassy show.
- 44:10Speaker 2: I like, I think it looks so good and now
- 44:13Speaker 2: I've been seeing all the press articles about it. I'm like,
- 44:15Speaker 2: I'm ready to put on my actual like change out
- 44:18Speaker 2: of my pajama top into a different pajama top and
- 44:23Speaker 2: sit there and binge watch, like that's what I need.
- 44:26Speaker 2: That's what I need. But thank you so much, and.
- 44:30Speaker 3: For being such an amazing monerator. To you that all
- 44:33Speaker 3: the points down, Oh
- 44:35Speaker 2: My god, we thank you well, we appreciate you, and
- 44:39Speaker 2: thank you guys for tuning in for another episode of
- 44:42Speaker 2: to Teas in a Pod and uh, we'll talk to
- 44:45Speaker 2: you soon