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The Real Talk on Weight Loss Meds: From Ozempic to Zepbound to Natural Alternatives · The Diva Details

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  Just fearless conversations to help you thrive. Let's dive in with Diva Mia and Diva Cat.
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  Well hello diva cat hello diva
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  mia how are you today i'm great yeah you're
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  doing good oh i've had a crazy week let
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  me tell you oh my god can't wait to hear about it oh my goodness well i'll tell
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  you all about it but today we're going to talk about weight loss medications
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  such as semi-glutide and prize hepatites ozimpic ozimpic is one of them yeah
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  one of them yes ozimpic is a is a form of a semiglutide.
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  So we're going to cover that today. I know you know that.
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  Oh, I know that. I love it. I know all about that. Yes.
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  Let's get started with kind of like a history, if you will, of when like the
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  idea of the semiglutides for weight loss all came about.
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  So back in the 1980s and 1990s, the scientists discovered what was called a GLP-1.
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  It's a natural hormone that helps regulate blood sugar and appetite.
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  So when you take a semi-glutide, it's actually helping regulate that.
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  There's a compound, and this may sound a little creepy, it's called GLP-1.
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  It was in Extend-4 is the scientific name of it, but it was found in the gilla monster. Yes.
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  And it's similar to the GLP-1 that's in the human stomach. And they found that
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  there's a difference basically between people that are overweight and people that are thin.
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  Okay. And they were trying to mimic thin people to help with obesity.
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  Wow. I know. You gotta love science. I know, but it took a while for them to
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  come up with the medications.
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  So that wasn't until 2005 that they came up with the medications.
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  It was interesting that they took the saliva, basically, from the Gila Monster.
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  And they came up with the medications from that. Yeah.
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  It's different. And there is a semiglutide. Okay.
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  And that's your Ozempic, your Wagovi. And then there's the Trisepatide,
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  which is your Mongiorno and your Zetbound.
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  So which one are you on? I'm on the Ozempic.
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  Ozempic, really? How long have you been on it? I started back in August,
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  first week of August. August, and have you had good results?
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  Oh, yeah. I love it. Like the first month, I've lost most weight.
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  I think I lost like 15 pounds the first month. 15 pounds. How much weight do
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  you want to lose? I want to lose total 50.
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  50 pounds? That's a lot. It's a lot. Right now, I'm kind of like for another
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  10 pounds before the cruise so I could eat.
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  Oh, talking about our cruise we're going on.
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  Yes, yes. The medications were originally designed for diabetes. Yes.
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  And now they're putting all kinds of people on. Right.
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  Something like 12% of people have been on some type of semiglutide.
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  And currently about 6% is. But I can honestly tell you, out of all my friends,
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  everybody's on it except for one. Really?
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  Yeah. Amazing how many people.
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  Well, I have a sister of type 2 diabetic. You know, she's insulin dependent.
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  They put her on. And I don't want to say Olympic. They put her on one of these.
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  But she lost 100 pounds within a year. Wow.
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  She gained her mobilities back. She's type 2 diabetic.
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  But she can vary result numbers. Yeah.
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  But she's still on insulin for her sugar. You would think if she lost that much
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  weight, they would stop that.
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  I guess it doesn't really impact your insulin levels. Maybe she should water
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  fast. Yeah. Oh, God, no. Because that would help her insulin levels.
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  The semi-glutase, the GLP-1, they impact your appetite.
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  I know. It's so weird. It slows down how hungry you are.
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  It also slows down your digestion. So some people that have had acid reflux
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  report that they don't have it anymore.
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  And some people that never had it before are now getting it because the digestion is so slow.
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  Right. It also messes with your metabolism. So it's supposed to help speed it
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  up a little bit. For my own experience, I had a hard time digesting.
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  Did you? Mm-hmm. Did you get constipated? Yes. You did? Yeah.
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  But then the amount of, I consume, I want to say I only ate like 25% of everything I used to eat.
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  Yeah. You know, you take a shot once a week, the most effective time.
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  So I take my shot on Friday.
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  That way I don't want to control myself because my eating time over the weekends.
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  So you lost a lot of weight. I lost, yeah, I want to say almost,
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  yeah, about 30 pounds. Wow.
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  But I've been on since August. So that's what, six months?
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  Yeah, that's six months. But the last two months, you know how I want to break it off.
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  So at the beginning, you give yourself a shot once a week. And then after I
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  lost 20 pounds, I spaced out every other week.
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  So now you're now every 14 days.
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  Yeah, now every 14 days. Of course, I didn't do it on my own. I have to go.
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  And I go to weight loss clinic. They designed for me.
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  So it was a weight class clinic that had a doctor there? Yeah.
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  When you get on these medications, you do need to go through and get a prescription.
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  They're not just over-the-counter like some medications.
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  Oh, no, no, no, no. I had my whole blood work done. Yeah.
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  My whole blood work done before she designed, which amount I had to take and all of that.
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  She calculated all of that. So they're checking your blood work often?
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  Mm-hmm. Okay. So some of the common side effects are nausea. Did you have that? I do.
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  You know, the only time I had nausea is when I eat bad food.
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  Okay. What about vomiting?
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  No, I don't get vomiting, but I do have diarrhea.
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  Okay. And you were constipated a little bit too. Let's say I take my shot on Friday, right?
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  I will go bathroom the whole weekend. Oh, wow. And then by Monday come,
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  I don't go bathroom until another two or three days.
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  It's so weird. Yeah. But your appetite definitely decrease. I love food.
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  All my friends that knows me, I eat. For me to see the food and just sit there
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  looking at it, that's... Well, I guess part of the side effects,
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  too, is you no longer want to eat.
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  Like, you get this food aversion, and you don't want food.
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  And then you also get, like, does your mood shift? My mood shift? No, I don't.
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  Okay, so you don't have any psychological issues from that standpoint. No, and I sleep normal.
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  Okay. A lot of people also gain the weight back after they get off the drug.
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  That's the only thing I'm worried about. Is gaining it back?
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  Gaining it back right now, yeah. Well, you know, sometimes when you decrease
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  how much you eat, your stomach shrinks a little bit, too.
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  And as long as you develop good habits while you're on it.
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  So that's what's supposed to do, right? After you lost all this weight,
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  you design your stomach should use to the very, very small portion.
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  That's what I noticed myself.
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  I used to eat two, three servings. Now I just eat one serving. Yeah.
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  So we talked about Ozempic and Wagovi.
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  The trisepatide is the Monjaro, I believe you say it that way. Yeah. That's Zep bound.
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  That one actually has the GLP-1 and the GIP dual agonists.
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  It's actually going to make you lose weight faster. That's what I heard. Yeah, yeah.
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  I don't know if losing weight faster is a good thing. And then there's some
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  other drugs that have kind of sprung out from this.
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  There's a Savinda, which is a liraglutide and a ribelsis.
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  We've heard of it. That's an oral one. So people actually can take a pill.
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  I think it's daily. I don't know.
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  The Ozempic and the Zetbound and those types of drugs, those are shots once a week.
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  But they now have oral stuff too. So you could take it every day?
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  You could take a pill every single day.
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  I don't know how effective it is because it's going to get digested in your
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  stomach. I think the shots probably would be a better way to go. But this is off-label.
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  So all the people that are on it that don't have diabetes, it's not prescribed for it.
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  Although I believe that trisepatide is now FDA-approved for weight loss as long
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  as you have obesity or something like that.
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  So then it is FDA-approved. There's warning signs, too. So you shouldn't get
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  on it if you have one of the warning signs.
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  A lot of times insurance doesn't fully cover the cost.
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  Well, my sister, type 2 diabetic, she got the insurance covered.
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  All of it? All of it. What about you?
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  No, I don't. Because when I tested it, I started at 205, right?
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  Of course, I was borderline diabetic.
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  And the doctor put me on that metformin. So I tried that metformin.
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  I take that metformin for a good three months. You know, I had to go check my
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  blood test every three months and then, and, and paired to that.
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  And then she put in the prescription for Ozimpic at the beginning of it. This is from my doctor.
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  Yeah. And the insurance denied it. I had to pay like 1500 bucks.
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  I don't have 1500 bucks. Wow. Yeah. I did it on my own.
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  It took me six months just to lose like 10 pounds.
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  You should have water fasted. No, I cannot do that. Only you could do water fasted.
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  It took me a good six months to lose just 10 pounds.
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  And then every three months I go for my blood test, my A1C was still borderline,
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  borderline, borderline, right?
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  And then when we decided to go on vacation, so I want to lose weight before
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  my vacation. So August 1st, I started it.
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  Yeah. On August 17th, I went on my vacation.
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  The day I lost 15 pounds.
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  In like two weeks. So you lost most of the weight right off the bat.
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  Right off the bat, the first two weeks. A lot of that might have been inflammation, too. I don't know.
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  A lot of it had been in my head. Maybe it's in my head, too.
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  You know how before on vacation, you want to look good. You try to be good, all of that.
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  I think those are combined. The other thing is a lot of times people lose muscle mass.
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  So when they go off the medication because they're not lifting weights during
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  it, and then they lose muscle mass, when they go off, they gain the weight back
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  because their metabolism is slowed because of the muscle loss. Right.
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  I didn't stop working out. I still do my heated yoga. I do my walk.
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  And I think that's how my body works.
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  I have more energy than I ever have. Have you heard about Ozempic Face? No. Yeah.
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  So Ozempic Face is when you lose so much weight that your skin sags on your face.
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  Because of the muscle loss and the weight loss. And a lot of people are having
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  to go for plastic surgery.
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  It's called the Ozempic face. Well, I don't know. I already had to plan out.
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  That's my next project, plastic surgery. Yeah. I definitely go to my facelift.
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  Are you going to do a facelift? I'm going to do a facelift. Well, there you go.
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  Yeah. Do you think that, can you see this replacing other types of weight loss
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  things like exercise and better diets?
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  No, no. You got to have both, right? You got to have both. Yeah.
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  I think this just to help, but
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  either way, you have to have your exercise right, you know, side by side.
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  That's just reality, right? You have, you are what you eat. You got to eat good
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  to be good, right? So here's an interesting fact.
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  Ozempic is approved for type 2 diabetes.
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  It's often used off-label for weight loss. It's not approved for that.
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  But the Wagovi, which is also a semi-glutide, is FDA approved for chronic weight
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  management. So you might be able to, after the Ozempic, you're done with the
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  Ozempic rounds, maybe stick on the Rogovi and have your insurance pay for it,
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  like maybe once a month or something as a maintenance.
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  Yeah, that's a great idea. So talk to your doctor about that.
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  I have to go back to my doctor.
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  So the trizepatide is another thing for weight loss. Okay. It's more potent
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  than the semiglutide. So you do it once a week.
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  It's also supposed to be good for your liver enzymes. So that's,
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  you know, something I was interested in. The ZEP bound is a trizepatide or terzepatide.
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  Terzepatide. And now they're developing a triple agonist. It's just going to
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  be GLP1, GIP, and glucagon called retratrutide.
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  Wow. It's got all three. Okay. That's showing even more weight loss potential.
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  Better like through scientists.
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  Yeah. They just keep coming up more. Let's make them lose more weight.
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  Let's make them lose more weight. Because that's number one.
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  Problem for me anyway. Yes. My week was interesting.
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  Right. After talking to you on your ozempic and talking to some other friends that were on it.
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  And then I talked to my doctor because ZepBound is supposed to help you with your liver enzymes.
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  Okay. I was like, wow, I can help fix my liver because we had already talked
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  that I have primary bilinary cholangitis.
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  Yeah. And I could fix my liver and lose some weight too. I was like,
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  this is amazing. Right. So what did I do? I went on ZepBound. Okay.
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  And like Diva Mia, I had some complications because whenever Diva Mia goes on
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  pharmaceuticals, shit happens.
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  Oh my God. I ended up in the hospital. I wanted to talk about this because I
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  know you've had wonderful things happen.
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  Right. I was the opposite of the coin.
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  You know, you're the head of the coin. I'm the tail of the coin.
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  I always get the shit hitting me in the ass.
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  He gets all the tail in. I get the tail. Yeah. So I was on ZepBound for just a couple weeks.
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  Okay. I ended up having a gallbladder attack. One of the side effects of ZepBound
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  is it can mess with your gallbladder. Wait a minute.
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  They're good for your liver, but they mess with your gallbladder?
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  It fixes your liver enzymes, but you might die from, you know,
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  your gallbladder exploding.
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  So I'm just going to go over some of the side effects, and then I'm going to
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  tell you what happened to me. If you're on one of these semi-glutides,
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  here's the common side effects.
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  That happens to people except for me. I get the rare side effects.
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  So the common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation,
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  abdominal pain, and indigestion. You're going to get some of that stuff.
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  You have all of that? Well, no. Okay. I get the rare ones.
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  And then it changes your metabolism. It's going to reduce your appetite.
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  Okay. Your taste buds are going to change. You also may get a little tired.
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  You can also get itching or swelling in the injection site. That's a possibility as well.
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  So the serious side effects, that's what I tend to get. You can get gastroparesis,
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  gastroparesis, whatever that is.
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  It's where your stomach doesn't empty fast enough and the food causes bloating and nausea.
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  And there have been people that have had to have part of their digestive system removed.
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  Oh, wow. That's probably why they lost weight. Yeah.
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  They have potentially severe vomiting, dehydration, and it can cause you to
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  have to have part your digestive tract remote. Oh, wow.
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  One of the other things is it can increase risk of thyroid tumors.
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  I've heard a lot about this lately.
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  So when you go on this, there's side effects, guys. Don't think that there is
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  an easy pill because there's not.
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  It can cause thyroid tumors. It can cause pancreatitis, which means your pancreas
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  gets inflamed and you have massive problems in your pancreas.
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  Or it can cause gallstones.
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  Ding, ding, ding. Which is what I got. And I got cholecystitis.
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  I had gallbladder issues. I was bent over. I had to go to the emergency room.
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  It was terrible. And they wanted to take out my gallbladder.
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  Oh, my God. And it can also cause kidney and liver concerns.
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  It can make your kidneys worse.
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  Sometimes it elevates the liver enzymes instead of brings them down.
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  In some people, it brings them down. So it just depends on the person.
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  It can also increase your heart rate.
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  It can also cause low blood pressure, which I already have low blood pressure,
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  which is a problem when it gets even lower.
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  Depression and suicidal thoughts. Oh, my God. So you have to be careful.
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  Uh-huh. So I ended up in that emergency room with a gallbladder attack,
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  and they wanted to take out my gallbladder.
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  And I never had a gallbladder attack in my life. For all of those people out
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  there that have had gallbladder attacks, I feel sorry for you because it is painful.
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  Painful. I did not know what to do. So I went to the emergency room,
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  freaked everyone out, of course.
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  They admitted me because my gallbladder was inflamed.
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  It had stones in it. It was sick. Mm-hmm. And they really pushed hard to try
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  to get me to get my gallbladder out. Well, you know me, I'm natural Mia.
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  I had to go forward, make a decision whether I was going to have my gallbladder out or not.
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  And, of course, it was challenging because if you don't get your gallbladder
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  out, it can burst and cause you sepsis.
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  But you can also fix certain things in a gallbladder.
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  Some people only have one attack. And since mine was, I was pretty certain after
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  talking to people that it was brought on by the ZEP bound, I decided against
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  getting my bowel bladder out.
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  Okay. I had talked to the nurses and they said they were seeing a lot of people that are on these...
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  Trisepatides and these semiglutides coming into the hospital with gallbladder attacks.
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  Oh, wow. And so then I started doing research because I'm a researcher.
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  And I said, hmm, Diva Mia, what do you really want to do?
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  And I said, so I researched, do these things cause gallbladder attacks?
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  And you should see how many people have had their gallbladders removed because
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  of they were on a semiglutide or a trisepatide.
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  It's common. Very common. I don't know the percentage, but I hope.
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  That what the companies that are, you know, promoting these drugs can actually come up with a number.
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  And I hope that anybody getting gallbladder surgery, I don't know if you're
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  out there listening to RFK,
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  but I hope that they start tracking the number of people that are having gallbladder
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  removed and other issues related like, you know, cardiovascular,
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  kidney problems, or pancreatic problems because of this.
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  A lot of people go on this medication and have no problems. I want to make that clear.
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  Yeah. I tend to be sensitive to all pharmaceuticals. You always get the short
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  end of the stick. Yeah, they call it drug naivete.
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  So I'm drug naive, basically. And whenever I take a medication,
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  my body says, uh-uh, that's not supposed to be inside you, divamia, throws a fit.
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  And I tend to get severe side effects. So I should have known better.
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  So shame on me. I should have known better. I'm going to shit all over myself for that one.
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  However, I went forward with it and I paid the price, which is a nice,
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  you know, emergency room bill. Oh, a nice emergency room bill, yes. Over.
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  And I didn't even lose any weight.
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  That's the worst thing. I think you should stick with your water fasting.
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  I think I should stick with my water fasting and my juice fasting because this
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  just doesn't work for me.
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  It was painful because I'm allergic to most pain meds. They put me on morphine
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  because it's one of the few pain meds that I can take.
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  It is the best. But then my blood pressure dropped.
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  And they wanted to perform surgery. So then they had to raise my blood pressure
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  back up just to get it to the level, the bare minimum of where they could be
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  practicing or doing blood pressure.
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  I mean, I can honestly tell you, I was kind of disappointed that they were just
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  assuming I would get the surgery. Right. And they said, well,
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  it's a minor surgery. It's a, you know.
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  Yeah. But when you get your gallbladder out, yes, you don't, you can live without it.
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  But your quality of life is going to change a little. Is it?
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  Yeah, because you can't eat some of the fats you used to eat before.
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  Yeah. You could have diarrhea.
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  My stepmother said that her ex or her husband that had deceased,
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  he lived for 20 years after he got his gallbladder out.
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  However, he had to drink water and cornstarch before meals or he would have diarrhea.
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  Oh, wow. It causes a lot of diarrhea because you don't process fats the same
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  way. That's how my friend is.
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  Yeah. Everything she eats, she goes to the bathroom. She goes to the bathroom.
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  So it flushes you every time you eat because if you eat anything with fat like
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  dairy or olive oil, which I love my olive oil, it will flush you.
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  And so I had to make that choice. And because of my liver problem,
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  my PBC, if I get my gallbladder out, it's going to be harder on my liver.
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  So I know you may not have listened to the autoimmune episode we have,
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  but in the autoimmune episode, I go into detail about my PBC autoimmune issue. Okay.
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  That is currently getting resolved. Now, my liver enzymes were looking good.
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  So my liver enzymes had gone down some in the two weeks that I was on this.
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  So it was helping my liver out a little bit. It just was not helping my gallbladder.
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  And had I gone forward, I was worried. OK.
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  I don't care about a surgery. They were like, oh, it's a little surgery.
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  You don't have to worry. I don't care about surgery. You can cut my arm off. I don't care.
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  But as long as it doesn't affect me long term, well, maybe don't cut my arm off.
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  The reality is, is I didn't care that it was a small surgery.
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  I cared that it was going to push me into a liver transplant sooner.
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  Sooner. And I didn't want to go that route. So I was like, and I weighed the options, guys.
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  I did. I talked to three different doctors. I talked to friends.
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  I talked to my naturopath people because I do go to a lot of different naturopath
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  physicians. I talked to my acupuncturist.
• 20:30
  My acupuncturist, he was the most confident that we could get this under control.
• 20:35
  He said he had a woman that had a huge gallstone. Okay.
• 20:39
  And I didn't have a huge one. I had small ones, which means they hadn't been
• 20:41
  there very long. And it's probably brought on by the ZetBound.
• 20:44
  But he said, if you take some medications, come in every day.
• 20:48
  So I've been in there every day. Mm-hmm.
• 20:50
  I'm feeling way better than I was. Yeah. Yeah, my energy level's coming back. Okay.
• 20:55
  I feel good. No more attacks since then. But then again, I'm not eating any fat.
• 20:59
  I mean, I had a little bit of olive oil, but nothing like fattening.
• 21:03
  I don't eat fried foods anyway.
• 21:04
  Right. So for me to have a gallbladder attack like that when I don't eat fried foods was crazy.
• 21:10
  One of the doctors that came in, he was on rounds. He says three things can
• 21:13
  happen if you don't get your gallbladder out.
• 21:14
  One, it can miraculously heal itself, which I'm in camp number one.
• 21:19
  Right. Number two is you could go home, you could have a gallbladder attack,
• 21:24
  it could rupture, and you could get sepsis. Wow.
• 21:28
  And at this point, my white blood cell count wasn't elevated,
• 21:31
  so I wasn't sepsis in any way.
• 21:34
  I just had a really mad gallbladder. It was inflamed and kind of pissed off.
• 21:39
  Right. And then the third choice is you go home, and you seem normal,
• 21:43
  and then every once in a while you eat something you shouldn't,
• 21:45
  and you have a gallbladder attack.
• 21:47
  I'm in Camp 1. I'm actually in the process of doing gallbladder cleanse. Okay.
• 21:52
  You have to go through a whole week of just kind of softening your gallstones,
• 21:56
  and then you can do a flush.
• 21:57
  Doing that along with acupuncture, with energy healing, with massage.
• 22:02
  Those are cost money. Digestive flush. You know, it's riskier. Yeah.
• 22:07
  Because I could have another gallbladder attack, all because I went on a trisepatite.
• 22:11
  So the moral of the story is all your friends may not have a problem.
• 22:17
  Because none of my friends have a problem I don't Well out of the five people
• 22:20
  I've talked to about it Uh huh Only one wasn't on it Okay And the other four have had no issues Yeah,
• 22:26
  except for me. You may be in the 5% or the 3%. I don't know what the percentage
• 22:31
  is, and I don't think they publish it yet, of people that have the side effects,
• 22:35
  the serious side effects. So just be aware.
• 22:37
  And if your stomach starts hurting, you feel like you've gotten kicked a hundred
• 22:41
  times, go to the hospital.
• 22:43
  And if your thyroid, you got to keep track of your thyroid. Now,
• 22:47
  I was only on it for two weeks. I think my thyroid should be okay.
• 22:51
  I'm completely off the ZetBound, obviously. Now, it is a potential for causing major problems.
• 22:58
  Now, you were good. I was good. Let's say I start in August,
• 23:02
  and every three months, she did the blood test, the whole complete blood test,
• 23:06
  before she moved on to the next dose.
• 23:08
  Well, I do my blood work every two weeks. You do your blood work every two weeks?
• 23:11
  Yes, for my liver. Oh, okay, okay.
• 23:14
  The longest I've gone without doing blood work is 30 days, just because I'm
• 23:19
  doing so many natural things to help my liver.
• 23:21
  Now, I have gotten my liver enzymes down half of what they were last year,
• 23:25
  just on doing things naturally.
• 23:27
  I was trying for a shortcut, guys, to be honest. And I'm not the type of person
• 23:32
  that does well on shortcuts.
• 23:34
  I think just who I am, I have to do the hard work and I have to go the painful
• 23:38
  route just because that's who I am.
• 23:40
  I don't know why it's always that way, but there's no shortcuts for Mia.
• 23:44
  So I have realized that.
• 23:47
  I'm taking that in stride. The zip bound would have been a nice little shortcut,
• 23:50
  but it's okay because I'm okay doing it the hard, long, long.
• 23:54
  Painful way to. You look great now. Thank you. You look a lot better.
• 23:57
  And the time I saw you. Yeah, because you saw me in the hospital. Yeah.
• 24:01
  I went to the hospital. I said, wait, what happened? What the heck happened
• 24:05
  to Mia? I was like, holy cow.
• 24:08
  Yeah. And it was too scary for my children, too. Yeah. I'm interested about
• 24:12
  gallbladder soften and cleanse.
• 24:15
  What is that? Yeah. So that was the thing. So he said that he said anywhere
• 24:19
  between 50 and 75 percent of Americans because we eat food that's processed
• 24:25
  and has higher fat content than most countries.
• 24:29
  Right. So about 50 to 75 percent of Americans have stones in their gallbladder.
• 24:35
  Okay. Most people it doesn't affect. A lot of times it will affect them.
• 24:40
  Now, the other thing is, as I have lost some weight, and when you lose massive
• 24:45
  amounts of weight or you lose weight quickly, you can develop stones from that too.
• 24:50
  Oh, wow. So that's why a lot of people, they get like a gastric bypass or something.
• 24:55
  They will also get their gallbladder out at the same time, which is another form of weight loss.
• 24:59
  But because the gallbladder tends to not be happy if you lose weight quickly.
• 25:04
  So you have to realize that. So I know a lot of people do these liver cleanses,
• 25:09
  but I don't think a lot of people do gallbladder flushes.
• 25:12
  And you have to be careful because your gallbladder has a little duct.
• 25:17
  Think of it like a heating and air conditioning duct that connects you with
• 25:21
  your liver and then that connects directly into your intestines.
• 25:24
  So you can actually dump bile if you need to.
• 25:26
  These ducts, if you do a gallbladder cleanse, the reason why it's a little risky
• 25:30
  is because you're softening the stones before you do it.
• 25:33
  Hopefully don't just do a cleanse or a flush without, you know,
• 25:36
  help soften the stones because they can get stuck.
• 25:40
  Oh, wow. And so when I do this this weekend, I might have a gallbladder attack if they get stuck.
• 25:45
  So that's my risk. You did well, though. I haven't done it yet. Oh, no?
• 25:48
  No, the flush is this coming weekend. Oh, this coming weekend.
• 25:52
  So I'm on like softening. I'm on the week-long softening approach. Oh, I see. Okay.
• 25:56
  And different Chinese herbs and stuff like that with my acupuncture.
• 25:59
  So I do things that are natural that a lot of people won't do. Uh-huh.
• 26:03
  But there are alternatives is all I'm trying to lay out. Right, right.
• 26:06
  But most people that are going into the hospital with gallbladder attack are
• 26:09
  getting their gallbladders out. But that was a quick fix.
• 26:12
  That is a quick fix. And I like to do things the hard way. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:16
  And I also like to stand up to doctors that tell me what to do.
• 26:19
  And I disagree with them. Man, that surgeon was really pissed off.
• 26:22
  Good for you. Yes. That surgeon did not like me. He spent like a total of 30
• 26:26
  seconds with me when I said I didn't want the surgery. He's like,
• 26:28
  OK, I'm not going to twist your arm. See ya.
• 26:30
  Yeah, because you just caused him one surgery. Yeah, there are alternatives.
• 26:35
  There's this other procedure that you can go in and there's a frequency,
• 26:39
  like a sound wave frequency.
• 26:40
  You can do that breaks up gallstones for people that can't do surgery.
• 26:45
  And it only costs between $2,000 and $3,000.
• 26:47
  But you know, those surgeries cost $10,000 to $20,000.
• 26:50
  I'm going to go the natural route. I'm going to try to do a flush.
• 26:53
  If I still have any problems, I'm going to go and see if I can get them broken
• 26:57
  up through the sound waves or the frequency. Was it painful though?
• 27:02
  I don't know. I've never done it. It's another new thing.
• 27:06
  I use myself as a test subject. It's like I'm biohacking myself.
• 27:10
  You need to document all of these.
• 27:13
  That's going to be your next book. My biohacking adventures.
• 27:17
  Right, about your gallbladder. Yeah. Let's talk about the positives,
• 27:20
  though, now that we've talked about the negatives.
• 27:22
  The thing about the Ozempic is they say that you can lose 10 to 15 percent of your body weight.
• 27:29
  You've done that. Yeah. You've done that. And that's over 68 weeks.
• 27:33
  It hasn't taken you that long because 68 weeks is over a year.
• 27:36
  No. 1.3 years to be exact, but you haven't taken that long. No,
• 27:40
  and mine is a little bit over six months.
• 27:43
  I start at 205. And you lost 15%. Yeah, 15%.
• 27:47
  But right now, the most fear I have, that's why they say it mentally.
• 27:51
  You're afraid of gaining it back. Right. You won't. I'll keep you in line.
• 27:55
  Yeah. Because now I'm trying to back out of it. You're slowing it down,
• 27:58
  but you haven't gained weight back yet.
• 28:00
  I actually still keep losing weight. It's because you're going on a reduced
• 28:04
  dose every two weeks, and then you'll probably go to once a month.
• 28:07
  And just be cognizant of it, and you should be okay. Well, the next dose after
• 28:11
  my blood test, the next dose is going to be once every 21 days. Okay.
• 28:15
  And then after that, once a month. Are you familiar with the set point?
• 28:19
  No. There's a belief system that our body gets to a set point.
• 28:23
  When you do weight loss, let's say you lose 40 pounds, then you gain back 10.
• 28:28
  You've reset your body and you stay at that 10-pound gain, but you lost 30.
• 28:32
  That's your new set point. Your body has different set points.
• 28:36
  And as you adjust down, you're creating a new set point.
• 28:40
  Oh, I see. So you may gain some of it back, but hopefully you've created a new
• 28:44
  set point that your body doesn't get back to the original weight. Yeah.
• 28:48
  And the way you solidify a set point is you stay at a weight for an extended amount of time.
• 28:53
  Right. Like there's people that don't eat very much and they're 200 pounds.
• 28:56
  They're like, why can't I lose any weight? Well, because you're eating at the
• 28:59
  same level. You've fixed your set point.
• 29:01
  They drop 30 pounds and they get a new set point, maybe 25 pounds less,
• 29:06
  and they can maintain that for a while.
• 29:08
  So set point is kind of important. You know, basically, it's based off of a
• 29:12
  calculation of your metabolism, how quickly you digest food,
• 29:16
  how, you know, your insulin resistance, etc.
• 29:19
  Yeah, I think that's been my main subject in my head anyway.
• 29:23
  I become very conscious of what I eat. Yeah.
• 29:27
  So, which has helped me a lot. But at some point, don't get me wrong,
• 29:29
  though, I love sweet. Oh, so you're a sugar addict. My sugar addict, yes.
• 29:33
  You know, food is an addiction. It affects the same part of the brain as cocaine.
• 29:37
  Sugar is a huge problem in this country because they put sugar in everything.
• 29:42
  Yeah, but I haven't had my sodas in August.
• 29:45
  I love my orange soda, Fanta. Oh, Fanta.
• 29:48
  Fanta. Fanta creates the fat. I know.
• 29:52
  I just quit that. I think, so my landlord's doctor, she said,
• 29:56
  all you need to do, just stop drinking that. Yeah.
• 29:59
  And you'll be fine. I mean, I drink once a week when we go out.
• 30:02
  Wow. So you've restricted it. I restrict it, even though diet cold, diet zero.
• 30:07
  And I do love my wine and my martini, you know?
• 30:10
  I wish I could still drink wine. I don't do wine anymore. I don't do any alcohol
• 30:14
  at all. I love my wine. Yeah, with your liver, you have to be careful.
• 30:17
  One day. I'll get my liver back, and then I'll be able to drink a glass of wine here and there.
• 30:20
  But I still do, though. Like, when we go out, I still have my cocktail.
• 30:24
  Yeah, so life is short. So I think everything in moderation.
• 30:28
  Yes. So the trisepatide would have given you a bigger weight loss.
• 30:33
  That is 18 to 24 percent weight loss.
• 30:37
  Be careful if you've got any gallbladder problems because it can cause gallstones.
• 30:41
  It can cause an inflamed liver.
• 30:43
  It can cause fluid around your liver and make your liver very sick.
• 30:46
  18 to 24 percent over 1.4 years is how much people have lost.
• 30:50
  Some people have lost more than 25% of their body weight.
• 30:53
  I even heard of a person lost 50% of their body weight on ZepBound in a year.
• 30:57
  Like from 200 pounds down to 100?
• 30:59
  No, from like 300 pounds down to 150.
• 31:02
  Oh, wow. Yeah, you're not going to decrease beyond, or you shouldn't, what's a normal weight.
• 31:08
  I don't know. Maybe there's some people getting underweight after this. I don't know.
• 31:11
  I think, too, maybe after this, judging by myself, it's in your head.
• 31:15
  Yeah. And if people have, like, mental issue about weight gain and how they
• 31:19
  look, They're always going to see themselves big, no matter how skinny.
• 31:23
  You know what I mean? Yeah, I know people like that. Maybe these might be if
• 31:26
  I still see that they're still fat.
• 31:28
  Most patients have achieved most of their weight loss by six months. So you're right there.
• 31:34
  I'm right there, yeah. So you're almost at where you're going to max out. Yeah.
• 31:39
  I just need 10 more pounds I could eat when I'm on the cruise.
• 31:41
  Well, and, you know, you can increase your muscle mass to increase your metabolism, too.
• 31:45
  The ozomphic is a little bit steady and slower. The ozomphic bounce faster.
• 31:50
  Appetite suppression on ozempic is strong
• 31:53
  but it's supposed to be even stronger on z-bound now here
• 31:55
  was the interesting thing well with me on z-bound i'm telling you i miss opposite
• 32:01
  was on z-bound i was hungrier really yeah i was like i'm craving things i don't
• 32:07
  usually crave i was on z- bound i was like why am i hungry today because i'd
• 32:11
  wake up in the morning i'd be hungry because usually i'm not hungry in the morning
• 32:14
  usually i only eat one meal a day
• 32:15
  It messed me up. Wow. So I would have to eat breakfast.
• 32:19
  I didn't usually eat breakfast. And I was like, wow.
• 32:22
  Maybe that's what you need to do. You eat breakfast to jump up your metabolism.
• 32:26
  No, no, no, no. But I do know this myself. Of course, I have a sweet tooth,
• 32:30
  right? I always want a sweet. My sweet appetite is still there.
• 32:34
  Yeah. Well, I think you'll still continue to have that going forward.
• 32:38
  You think so? Yeah. You just have to do it, like you said, in moderation.
• 32:42
  Yeah. I love ice cream. the bluebell ice cream, vanilla ice cream.
• 32:46
  Here's the other thing. The Ozempic is slower, but you're less likely to have
• 32:51
  complications because of it.
• 32:53
  Whereas the ZepBound, it has much more intense.
• 32:57
  You're much more likely to have a gallbladder or gastrointestinal problems.
• 33:01
  And it happens in the beginning. You're three months in on ZepBound,
• 33:04
  you're most likely you've stabilized with it.
• 33:06
  But if you're two to three weeks in and you're having abdominal problems,
• 33:10
  you might need to go see a doctor and get off of it. So just be aware of that
• 33:13
  because it's so much faster, it messes you up faster. Faster, yeah.
• 33:18
  So within a week or two, you should know that it's the right drug for you.
• 33:21
  That's what you're trying to say. You should. You should. And they did test it against a placebo.
• 33:26
  Ozempic, you're losing weight twice as fast as the placebo.
• 33:30
  And then on ZepBound, you're losing it two and a half to three times as fast.
• 33:34
  So the reason why they test against a placebo, just so you know,
• 33:37
  to make sure that the weight loss isn't just in people's head,
• 33:40
  that it's actually a valid drug for weight loss, unless it's me,
• 33:44
  and then you'll gain weight and then have a gallbladder attack.
• 33:47
  Ozempic, if you're looking for fast weight loss, you have no health issues.
• 33:52
  You might want to go to the zep bound. If you have some health issues,
• 33:54
  I would maybe go the Ozempic route.
• 33:56
  But talk to your doctor because they know your blood work. They know you.
• 33:59
  They know you better than anyone else.
• 34:02
  So the GLP, people are like, what the heck is GLP one. So it's a glucagon-like peptide one.
• 34:08
  That's what it stands for, glucagon. It's just a hormone that lowers your blood
• 34:11
  sugar, that slows your stomach emptying, suppresses appetite.
• 34:15
  You know, it's found in the saliva or the venom of a gillamonster.
• 34:18
  What does gillamonster look like? I don't know.
• 34:21
  We should probably get a picture and put it up next to this advertisement.
• 34:25
  Anyway, they realized that the venom or the saliva in the gillamonster will
• 34:30
  help. There's other things you can do, though, too.
• 34:32
  So you mentioned Metformin that you were on. Tell me about that.
• 34:36
  Metformin, I was on for a good three months. I actually lost weight. They did curb appetite.
• 34:41
  Yeah. Yeah. I did that because I was, when I started, you know,
• 34:45
  back, I started my weight loss journey.
• 34:48
  Borderline, type two diabetic. That's why my doctor put me on Metformin.
• 34:51
  Like my mouth, I always want to water, but my, you know, me with water, I get water.
• 34:56
  So that's when I grabbed Diet Coke. You know what I do. I put lemon in all my
• 34:59
  water, which is good for your liver and your gallbladder.
• 35:02
  If you can't do that because you need something sweet, try to get some lemonade
• 35:05
  and put just a dash of lemonade in with your water and then you won't gag anymore.
• 35:09
  It doesn't increase your insulin like a can of soda would. And that's how I
• 35:13
  get my children to drink more water.
• 35:16
  Yeah, yeah. Because then it's just a little bit sweet and I don't have them drink soda at all.
• 35:20
  Yeah. And that way they're, you know, they get a little bit of a sweetness to
• 35:23
  it and they're not gagging on the water.
• 35:25
  Yeah. So the metformin, it works well, but it works very slowly for me.
• 35:29
  Well, it did work, you know, in three months, I lost 10 pounds.
• 35:33
  Yeah. And then my A1C actually better.
• 35:35
  But now that I lost, when I got on this OZMP, I lost all this weight, I'm off for metformin.
• 35:41
  Well, metformin has side effects too. Oh, yeah, yeah. Some of the metformin
• 35:44
  side effects can be, and again, metformin's for type 2 diabetes again. Yeah.
• 35:49
  But people are using it for weight loss. Uh-huh. So some of the side effects
• 35:53
  for metformin are nausea, diarrhea, abdominal discomfort, bloating,
• 35:57
  flatulence. Don't sit next to you on an airplane.
• 36:00
  Yeah, a metallic taste in your mouth. Yeah, that I have. The metallic taste.
• 36:04
  Or the flatulence. Yeah, those are the two I have.
• 36:07
  Yeah. Oh, well, don't sit next to Diva Cat on a plane, man, because she will light it up.
• 36:13
  Oh, we're going to stay in room on these clothes. Oh, crap. Don't be on mid-formin.
• 36:17
  Okay, so we got that window open.
• 36:22
  Need that sea breeze to keep the air.
• 36:27
  Oh my god one of us might be missing we're hanging
• 36:31
  her butt off the edge of the cruise and she falls in okay anyway so lactic acidosis
• 36:37
  can also happen so that is life-threatening uh-huh and you get lactic acid basically
• 36:42
  built up and this is on metformin so there's life threatening things on all
• 36:46
  these drugs guys everybody thinks oh let me just go get a pill Let me just, no,
• 36:50
  I am still convinced that the long, slow, snail, turtle,
• 36:54
  painful way is the best way for me. It may not be for you, but for me.
• 36:59
  I love my drugs. Work fast. You love your drugs. Yeah. I love the natural way.
• 37:03
  So you got two differentiating opinions here. Right, right.
• 37:06
  The other thing with metformin is you can decrease your B12,
• 37:09
  which you need your B12, which is going to cause nerve problems.
• 37:13
  It can cause vision problems, anemia.
• 37:15
  It can make you tired. Get multivitamins.
• 37:17
  Well, that's on metformin. You can also get kidney problems.
• 37:20
  You can get stones. You can get impaired kidney function.
• 37:24
  Metformin, it may be a little pill and you don't think it's a big deal,
• 37:26
  but you can have problems on metformin. It can cause kidney disease, liver disease.
• 37:30
  The lactic acidosis is a huge problem. I can never take metformin because of that.
• 37:35
  Talk about that. Oh, well, so because of if I got liver disease on top of the
• 37:40
  liver disease, it would basically create toxicity in my liver.
• 37:43
  Metformin would not work for me either. There are pretty much nothing I can
• 37:47
  do except for the hard work to make this work. And I'm OK with that.
• 37:50
  I really am OK. You know, I can't drink. I can't drink whole milk anymore.
• 37:55
  You think it's because of the metformin or did you have a. I don't know what
• 37:58
  because of that. You know, it's not lactose. It's lactic. Lactic.
• 38:02
  Yeah. Yeah, it's like a lactic acid.
• 38:06
  You know how that pain you get when you work out? That's a lactic acid. I don't have that.
• 38:11
  If it builds up in your system, it can cause liver toxicity,
• 38:15
  which can cause a breakdown of your liver. I do very gassy, though.
• 38:20
  I am. You're very gassy. Well, this is good to know. I wish you would have told
• 38:24
  me before I booked the cruise with you.
• 38:27
  Now Diva Mia wants her own. Now I want my own suite. That's all right.
• 38:31
  Why did you get your own suite? Well, he's a little stinky in my room.
• 38:35
  Anyway, so the type 2 diabetes is an issue with people.
• 38:40
  You know, they have done studies, and I've mentioned this before,
• 38:42
  that people that have done extended water fasts.
• 38:44
  Now, even water fasting can be dangerous, guys. But they've done like 21,
• 38:48
  30-day water fasts and cured their type 2 diabetes for a couple years.
• 38:51
  It's all insulin-related, and water fasting helps fix your insulin levels.
• 38:55
  Wow. But let's go the natural out a little bit. Okay. We're not going to dive
• 38:59
  into it too much. But there's a natural compound found in plants.
• 39:03
  It's called berberine. Have you heard of it? Uh-uh.
• 39:06
  Berberine or berberine, depending on what part of the country you're from.
• 39:09
  I've heard it pronounced both ways. Okay.
• 39:11
  And there's also goldenseal. Have you heard of that? No.
• 39:15
  So it's basically derived from a plant, and it's like metformin without the side effects.
• 39:21
  Oh, wow. It improves your insulin sensitivity.
• 39:24
  Where did you get that? You can get that over the counter. Oh,
• 39:27
  wow. So berberine, I actually have berberine for my kids, too.
• 39:30
  So if you're going to eat a big sugary meal, now you should not be co-mixing this.
• 39:35
  So if you're on a semi-glutide or a trisepatide, do not mix these things together.
• 39:39
  Don't mix the metformin. Don't mix the berberine because you don't want to crash
• 39:43
  your insulin levels too much and then go into the hospital because your blood
• 39:47
  sugar is too low and you pass out.
• 39:49
  The berberine, if you're not on one of these other weight loss things and you're
• 39:54
  not a type 2 diabetic and you're not a type 1 diabetic, it might be something
• 39:59
  you can do. Talk to your doctor.
• 40:00
  But berberine is more natural. It's very similar to metformin.
• 40:04
  It's going to improve your insulin sensitivity. Now, I love berberine.
• 40:08
  And I've taken... Now, I wasn't taking it when I had the gallbladder thing because
• 40:12
  I was just focused on the Zep bound fixing my liver and everything else.
• 40:15
  Does it come like a gummy way? You can get a gummy.
• 40:18
  I'm not so certain the gummies are good because the gummies add sugar and then
• 40:22
  you're trying to block the sugar with the berberine.
• 40:24
  So I don't know if you actually get a good effect if you're taking it.
• 40:27
  I know. But that's like...
• 40:29
  The Flintstone vitamins of the 2020s, you know?
• 40:33
  I'm like, everybody's taking gummies. I'm like, how much sugar is in those gummies there?
• 40:37
  Adult Flintstone. Adult Flintstones. But they give it to kids now,
• 40:40
  too. So now the kids are addicted to sugary gummy whatever.
• 40:44
  Anyway, I don't think you actually get the benefit in the gummies of the vitamins
• 40:47
  like you do if it was just a pill is my only thought process.
• 40:50
  Oh, okay. Yes, because you're trying to block the sugar.
• 40:54
  And if you're eating a gummy, you're eating the sugar. My multivitamins come
• 40:58
  in a gummy form. Of course they do.
• 41:01
  I take to it every day. Of course they do. Anyway.
• 41:05
  The berberine will lower your insulin levels. So if you had a big sugary dessert. Okay.
• 41:11
  And you go out for, let's say after you get off the semilaglutin,
• 41:15
  this is a good way to maintain your weight.
• 41:17
  So if you want to go out for that glass of wine or if you want to go out for
• 41:21
  that dessert, take it about an hour or two before you go because it's going
• 41:25
  to keep your insulin levels low. So it's not going to spike your insulin,
• 41:29
  which insulin leads to fat storage.
• 41:31
  Oh, wow. And there's another pill I saw.
• 41:34
  It's called carb blocking. I don't know what it is. Carb blocker.
• 41:38
  It probably has berberine in it.
• 41:40
  There's other things besides berberine. I've just taken berberine in the past.
• 41:44
  Here's the thing. It's not a natural. You're not going to lose a ton of weight
• 41:47
  on it. It will help block the insulin, but you're going to have to work out and eat well.
• 41:51
  It's not a solution for a bad diet.
• 41:55
  It does help regulate your metabolism, too. It is an activated protein.
• 42:00
  It's an enzyme that plays a role in regulating your energy production.
• 42:04
  It's going to make your fat metabolism work faster. Oh, wow. So it's healthier.
• 42:08
  It also promotes oxidation of fatty acids, so that's good.
• 42:12
  It's going to help break down your fat. It's going to help break it down instead of storing it.
• 42:17
  And that's all kind of related to the insulin sensitivity part of it, too.
• 42:21
  Can we take it, like, daily? Yeah, you can take it whenever you want.
• 42:24
  Okay. You could take it daily. It does control appetite. It does support gut health.
• 42:28
  So it's healthier. Gut health. It's also probiotic then, that's what you said.
• 42:32
  Well, it helps repair the gut health.
• 42:34
  Because a lot of people, they eat stuff and it messes up your gut.
• 42:37
  You get leaky gut problems, etc.
• 42:39
  Which it's been mentioned in the Journal of Obesity for people that are obese. So if you have...
• 42:44
  An issue with ZepBound or if you have an issue with Ozempic or if you have and
• 42:48
  you don't want or you just don't want to go on a pharmaceutical like Metformin
• 42:51
  or something like that. It's a good backup solution.
• 42:54
  Now, it can interfere with medications.
• 42:57
  So if you're on blood pressure or blood thinners or things like that,
• 43:00
  you have to talk to your doctor.
• 43:02
  Don't self-medicate. I have naturopath doctors I speak to that know like I'm
• 43:08
  not on any pharmaceuticals.
• 43:09
  So I don't have that issue. So I'm OK taking things like that.
• 43:13
  But then again, I don't have big sugary meals either. Yeah, that's true.
• 43:16
  Or big fatty meals. I could take it regularly.
• 43:19
  I've just tried to. You don't even eat cheese. I do once in a while.
• 43:22
  I do once in a while. Okay.
• 43:24
  Mainly the only dairy I have is yogurt. Oh, you do just lemonade.
• 43:28
  Yogurt. I do yogurt once in a while for the probiotics. And like right now I'm
• 43:32
  doing some kombucha. What?
• 43:33
  I don't know how I turned into like this new age hippie that's all into natural
• 43:38
  health. I think it's because of all the health issues I've gone through.
• 43:41
  I'm telling you. With all the foods. I've turned into a new age hippie that
• 43:44
  knows stuff about energy healing and frequencies and weight loss the natural way.
• 43:49
  And then every once in a while, I think the social pressure or something sucks
• 43:54
  me back into the Western medicine field.
• 43:57
  And it always bites me in the ass. I think you only look, that's another thing
• 44:01
  too. Your skin is, you look like 30s. Yes, I look young. Yeah.
• 44:05
  Yeah. Even though I'm 52, that's why I should be dating like 30 year olds. Right.
• 44:09
  Hey. Yeah, but Cher's boyfriend's only 27 and she's 75. What?
• 44:14
  That's not happening for me. That's a new thing. I think there's a change to that now.
• 44:18
  But anyway, no, I'm not going for 25. I'm sorry, not happening.
• 44:21
  If you're out there and you're 25, I'm not dating you. Yeah. I need a mature man.
• 44:25
  If you cleanse from the inside, your skin does better. I don't use moisturizer
• 44:29
  and I don't use... That's another thing.
• 44:30
  You don't want to use sunblock. I don't use sunblock. You know,
• 44:32
  some of it's hereditary too.
• 44:33
  So I can't say that we just don't get, you know, some of the wrinkles that other
• 44:37
  people do in my family. But I just prefer to cleanse from the inside out.
• 44:40
  I do. I'm ready for Botox.
• 44:42
  All right. No, don't do that. Don't Botox. We're going to go.
• 44:45
  We'll have a whole thing on Botox.
• 44:47
  There's so many problems. Don't do Botox. Really? Although we're talking to women.
• 44:51
  We're probably half the women on here have done Botox. But we will do a Botox segment.
• 44:54
  Uh-huh. Yeah. We're not going to talk about that today. Butterfly P. Okay. So butterfly P. T.
• 45:00
  I have that plant. Do you? Yeah. I planted myself.
• 45:03
  The butterfly P plant? Yeah. You want it? I'll plant it for you.
• 45:06
  Well, I just ordered some more butterfly tea. Oh, my God. You should have to tell me.
• 45:11
  So butterfly pea tea is good for, I can't even say this. It's from the Clitoria turnips.
• 45:19
  Yes, I did say clit. It's from the clitoria teratina plant. However,
• 45:23
  it's for weight loss, ladies.
• 45:26
  Oh, wow. I'm sorry. I knew I was going to crack up when I talked about it.
• 45:30
  Anyway, it's caffeine-free. It's an herbal tea. It's getting more popular.
• 45:35
  So it's like this blue tea. You can put it in all kinds of drinks.
• 45:38
  I still have the flour from last year. I washed them. You dried it out?
• 45:42
  I dried them and I put them in the freezer.
• 45:45
  I'll bring it for you. Again, it's a weight loss. So if you're on medication,
• 45:49
  I don't recommend taking it because it is an antioxidant. It helps your liver.
• 45:55
  It's good for your metabolism. I'm going to be going on this.
• 45:59
  And I might do the berberine a little bit.
• 46:01
  So it kind of behaves just like the berberine.
• 46:04
  So I wanted to bring this up for the people that don't want to do the ozempic
• 46:09
  pills and everything else.
• 46:11
  You could do some butterfly tea with the berberine because it helps your blood
• 46:16
  sugar levels as well. I'm going to plant that for you.
• 46:19
  I have a lot of them. Just bring it to me. I'll plant it in my yard. Yeah.
• 46:22
  So you're going to improve your insulin sensitivity. You're going to improve your digestion.
• 46:25
  Oh. It's an anti-inflammatory, which everyone on this planet needs anti-inflammatories
• 46:30
  because we're all running into environmental things that inflame us.
• 46:34
  Stress is causing inflammation. Again, it's another natural way to help your
• 46:40
  body naturally lose weight.
• 46:42
  I'm all about the natural, especially after I got sucked back into Western medicine.
• 46:46
  I'm telling you, every time I've learned my lesson, God, because every time.
• 46:51
  You scared me. I get sucked into West. Well, I scared myself,
• 46:54
  but I was still upbeat, right? I was still happy and upbeat.
• 46:58
  But it was rough because I don't go to the emergency room unless it's.
• 47:01
  You could take pain, man. I can take some pain. And I don't go into the emergency
• 47:05
  room unless it's really dangerous.
• 47:08
  I woke up at like three o'clock in the morning, felt like somebody was stabbing
• 47:11
  me in the gallbladder, the liver area. and I just, I thought I had a diva cat
• 47:16
  problem. Like maybe it was just really bad gas.
• 47:21
  But it wasn't. It just kept getting worse. And I was so, I was,
• 47:25
  I was, you know, folded over.
• 47:27
  I could barely walk, got to the emergency room and had a friend drop me off,
• 47:31
  you know, after a ultrasound and,
• 47:33
  cat scan with they stick the dye in and they said
• 47:36
  you got really enough really sick gallbladder they said you got to
• 47:39
  calm it down so most people when they go through that they don't
• 47:42
  change their what they're doing so for me i just got off the zet bound yeah
• 47:45
  i think that's gonna fix it and then i'm gonna do some cleanses and some flushes
• 47:49
  the natural way you're doing though i like the natural way is a better because
• 47:52
  most people don't do the natural way i think here's the thing i think because
• 47:56
  it's a lot of work that's why it's work and you can't half-ass it yeah to tell you the truth i I,
• 48:02
  in the past, I mean, for probably the past 20 years, I've done different natural healing things.
• 48:07
  I've done yoga retreats. I've done, I was like the weekend warrior of health.
• 48:11
  And then I would go back to my old ways. Right.
• 48:14
  And I think when you do natural, you kind of got to dive in.
• 48:17
  You really, I am a student of this as well.
• 48:19
  I really need to make sure I don't get sucked into the Western pharmaceutical
• 48:23
  type of mindset again for me.
• 48:25
  You have to stay consistent. You got to stay consistent. And you just got, it's slower.
• 48:29
  I'm just going to tell you, it's slower. It takes longer. Even the water fasting,
• 48:33
  I mean, I do get good results with that, but you can't do it for too long.
• 48:37
  And the juice fasting, right? So I do juice fasting as well.
• 48:40
  So those types of things are really healthy for you.
• 48:43
  But you have to be careful with those too. You have to know your body.
• 48:46
  Also, if you're on any medication, you have to be really, really careful.
• 48:51
  Consistency is key. But anyway, so the butterfly also helps with appetite control.
• 48:56
  Hydration. It's actually going to increase your hydration. This would be a tea
• 49:00
  that if you're water fasting, you could take because with water fasting,
• 49:03
  a lot of times you'll get dehydrated because you don't have the right electrolytes.
• 49:06
  But this will help. And it helps with fat metabolism and fat breakdown.
• 49:09
  So between the berberine and the butterfly PT, those are two great solutions.
• 49:15
  If you want to do natural way. If you want to go natural. You know,
• 49:18
  there's a synergy between the two of them, too.
• 49:20
  If you take both of them together, they give you an overall effect and they
• 49:25
  call it a magic solution.
• 49:26
  So it might be a good way to balance out weight loss for anybody that was on
• 49:32
  the ZepBound or the Zempic after they come off of it.
• 49:37
  That's what I'm thinking when I'm going to get off and do this.
• 49:40
  Yeah. Remember, you could get thyroid cancer. Yeah. So this is...
• 49:45
  I plant my own butterfly pea.
• 49:47
  You planted it. You got it in your yard. Yeah.
• 49:50
  And I think more and more research... And here's the thing.
• 49:54
  Metformin is based off of berberine. Oh, wow. The reality, guys,
• 49:58
  is most of the pharmaceuticals out there is based off of foods and plants,
• 50:03
  medicinal plants. They just amplify them. Right.
• 50:06
  Sometimes when you amplify things in the body, it's not healthy for the people that are sensitive.
• 50:11
  But if you're not sensitive, it's okay. Just a thought. I need to go find it, yeah.
• 50:16
  I want to see, is it a pretty flower? Very pretty. I have pictures of it.
• 50:20
  Can you bring me a cutting? So is it still growing? No, in the wintertime they
• 50:25
  die. So what I do, I dry the seed.
• 50:28
  So you plant from the seed. Okay, so bring me some seeds. Yeah.
• 50:31
  I'll put it in one of my interior pots and then I can have it year round.
• 50:35
  Yeah. It's big? It's a big bush?
• 50:37
  It's just like a bush, yeah. I have it. During summertime, I didn't know what
• 50:43
  it was. I just put it in my salad.
• 50:45
  I eat the stem out of it. It tastes very sweet. Well, it does make sense that
• 50:50
  it's a big bush. Yeah. Since it's from the clitoria.
• 50:53
  Yeah. It's a big bush. It is big bush. Look at you turn red.
• 50:59
  During the summertime, I picked out the leaves. You said big bush and all I
• 51:03
  could think of is the clitoria.
• 51:06
  Does it look like a vulva? What is going to make your hair grow back?
• 51:11
  It does? I don't know. Oh, down there? Yeah.
• 51:15
  No, no, no, no. No, it better not. It better not. I spent a lot of money on
• 51:18
  laser. I did spend a lot of money on laser, man. It better not.
• 51:21
  Anyway, we've really gone sidetracked this time. Okay, sorry.
• 51:27
  So that was fun. Anyway, so we are going to wrap it up. Okay.
• 51:31
  I think that today we've covered a lot, and I know that a lot of people are
• 51:36
  going on these medications.
• 51:38
  I just hope that people are aware of the pros and the cons.
• 51:42
  Yeah, hopefully it helps me, but I have to say it's not good to be on forever.
• 51:46
  It's not. If you're really obese, it may be a lifesaver for some people.
• 51:52
  So I don't want to, you know, disparage it in any way.
• 51:55
  Because if it saves your life, there's that. And you may not have any of the
• 52:00
  complications that other people do.
• 52:02
  Right. Even my doctor said, just remember, this is temporarily help you jumpstart.
• 52:08
  Yes. Your healthy eating is forever. Your healthy eating is forever.
• 52:12
  And, you know, I'm really big into lifting weight. I need to start lifting.
• 52:16
  Maybe we should live together. Oh, I'll show you. Okay.
• 52:18
  Yeah, heavy lifting is good because we lose muscle mass every year.
• 52:22
  And as you lose muscle mass, you lose bone density and you gain weight.
• 52:25
  I think we should have more weightlifting programs for people unless,
• 52:28
  you know, pharmaceuticals. But that's just my thought process.
• 52:31
  But let's wrap it up. Okay.
• 52:33
  It's been fun. Yes. It's been fun, Diva Kat.
• 52:36
  Yes, yes. I'm so glad you're back to 80%. I'm about 80%, yeah.
• 52:41
  Not 100% yet, but it was touch and go there for a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:44
  I'm so happy. People aren't used to seeing me weak. Yes.
• 52:47
  And knocked on my butt. Yes. But, yeah, I am back. Glad you are back.
• 52:51
  And I'm so happy. I got scared.
• 52:54
  Yeah. I had to cancel a trip because of it, but I'm back. That's okay.
• 52:57
  Yeah. So, this is Diva Mia signing off. This is Diva Cat. We'll talk to you
• 53:02
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