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How Children's Books Teach Diversity, Kindness & Acceptance · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:48
  Hi,
• 4:48
  my
• 4:48
  name
• 4:49
  is
• 4:49
  Ralph
• 4:49
  Tufo
• 4:50
  and
• 4:50
  I
• 4:50
  am
• 4:51
  the
• 4:51
  author
• 4:52
  of
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  Seymour
• 4:53
  the
• 4:54
  Seagull
• 4:54
  Tales,
• 4:56
  three
• 4:56
  books
• 4:57
  that
• 4:58
  are
• 4:58
  set
• 4:59
  at
• 4:59
  Bevere
• 5:00
  Beach,
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  Massachusetts,
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  the
• 5:02
  first
• 5:02
  public
• 5:02
  beach
• 5:02
  in
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  United
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  States.
• 5:05
  And
• 5:05
  they
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  all
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  teach
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  lessons
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  in
• 5:07
  kindness.
• 5:08
  Oh,
• 5:08
  terrific.
• 5:09
  Thanks
• 5:10
  Ralph,
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  for
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  appearing
• 5:10
  on
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  the
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  Adventures
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  in
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  Heart
• 5:12
  of
• 5:12
  Children's
• 5:13
  Book
• 5:13
  Authors
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  podcast
• 5:14
  show.
• 5:15
  Like
• 5:16
  Ralph
• 5:16
  mentioned,
• 5:17
  he's
• 5:17
  written
• 5:17
  a
• 5:18
  children's
• 5:18
  book
• 5:18
  series,
• 5:19
  Seymour
• 5:19
  the
• 5:20
  Seagull
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  and
• 5:20
  I
• 5:20
  look
• 5:21
  forward
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  our
• 5:21
  conversation.
• 5:23
  Ralph,
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  before
• 5:24
  we
• 5:24
  jump
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  into
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  the
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  details
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  of
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  your
• 5:26
  book
• 5:26
  series,
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  can
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  tell
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  us
• 5:28
  what
• 5:28
  it
• 5:28
  means
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  to
• 5:29
  you
• 5:30
  being
• 5:30
  a
• 5:30
  children's
• 5:31
  book
• 5:31
  author?
• 5:33
  I'm
• 5:33
  a
• 5:33
  former
• 5:33
  teacher.
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  I
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  taught
• 5:35
  middle
• 5:35
  school
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  all
• 5:36
  the
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  way
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  up
• 5:37
  to
• 5:37
  community
• 5:37
  college.
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  And
• 5:39
  my
• 5:40
  experience
• 5:40
  in
• 5:40
  teaching,
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  I've
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  noticed
• 5:43
  that
• 5:43
  there's
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  a
• 5:44
  great
• 5:44
  need
• 5:45
  to
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  teach
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  young
• 5:47
  people
• 5:48
  lessons
• 5:48
  in
• 5:49
  kindness.
• 5:50
  So
• 5:50
  that's
• 5:51
  what
• 5:51
  all
• 5:51
  three
• 5:51
  of
• 5:52
  my
• 5:52
  books
• 5:52
  do.
• 5:53
  They
• 5:53
  focus
• 5:53
  on
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  different
• 5:54
  aspects,
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  one
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  being
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  to
• 5:56
  acceptance
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  of
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  diversity,
• 5:58
  learning
• 5:59
  how
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  to
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  cooperate
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  with
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  each
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  other,
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  supporting
• 6:02
  people
• 6:02
  with
• 6:02
  disabilities.
• 6:04
  And
• 6:04
  also
• 6:05
  the
• 6:05
  last
• 6:05
  book,
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  True
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  Friends
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  indeed
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  deals
• 6:08
  with
• 6:08
  an
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  anti
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  bully
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  thing.
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  When
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  I
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  go
• 6:11
  out
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  and
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  do
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  readings
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  at
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  different
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  arts
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  and
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  crafts
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  festivals
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  or
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  at
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  schools
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  or
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  at
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  children's
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  groups,
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  it
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  gives
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  me
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  that
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  warm
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  fuzzy
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  feeling
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  to
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  see
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  the
• 6:22
  kids
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  really
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  adapt
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  to
• 6:24
  the
• 6:24
  stories.
• 6:26
  And
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  also
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  play
• 6:27
  music
• 6:28
  that
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  I've
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  written
• 6:29
  that
• 6:29
  goes
• 6:30
  along
• 6:30
  with
• 6:30
  books
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  and
• 6:31
  I
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  put
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  perform.
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  It
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  just
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  gives
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  me
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  a
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  really
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  good
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  feeling
• 6:35
  knowing
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  that
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  what
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  I'm
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  doing,
• 6:37
  spending
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  a
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  lot
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  time
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  that
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  has
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  some
• 6:41
  effect.
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  Fantastic.
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  So
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  tell
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  us
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  about,
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  I
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  know
• 6:45
  you
• 6:45
  mentioned
• 6:46
  off
• 6:46
  air
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  that
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  you
• 6:47
  can
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  see
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  ocean
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  from
• 6:49
  your
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  home.
• 6:50
  Tell
• 6:50
  us
• 6:50
  the
• 6:50
  inspiration
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  behind
• 6:51
  your
• 6:52
  book
• 6:52
  series
• 6:52
  and
• 6:53
  how
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  did
• 6:53
  it
• 6:53
  all
• 6:54
  start?
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  Well,
• 6:55
  that's
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  good
• 6:56
  point
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  because
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  it
• 6:57
  does
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  deal
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  with
• 6:58
  the
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  ocean.
• 6:59
  I'm
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  right
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  next
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  to
• 7:00
  a
• 7:00
  here
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  because
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  beach.
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  I
• 7:02
  can
• 7:02
  see
• 7:02
  it
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  from
• 7:02
  my
• 7:03
  windows.
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  And
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  usually
• 7:04
  walk
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  from
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  beginning
• 7:07
  of
• 7:08
  Revere
• 7:08
  beach
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  like
• 7:09
  the
• 7:09
  middle
• 7:10
  and
• 7:10
  stop
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  at
• 7:12
  Kelly's
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  Roast
• 7:13
  Beef
• 7:13
  Seafood
• 7:14
  Restaurant.
• 7:15
  And
• 7:15
  then
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  turn
• 7:16
  around,
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  I
• 7:17
  did
• 7:17
  that
• 7:17
  one
• 7:17
  day
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  and
• 7:19
  I
• 7:19
  stopped
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  and
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  my
• 7:22
  left
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  noticed
• 7:23
  not
• 7:23
  less
• 7:24
  than
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  three
• 7:24
  feet
• 7:25
  away
• 7:25
  is
• 7:26
  this
• 7:26
  big
• 7:26
  gigantic.
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  So
• 7:28
  you
• 7:28
  go
• 7:30
  looking
• 7:30
  at
• 7:31
  me
• 7:31
  and
• 7:32
  so
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  looked
• 7:32
  at
• 7:32
  him,
• 7:33
  he
• 7:33
  looked
• 7:34
  at
• 7:34
  me
• 7:34
  and
• 7:35
  this
• 7:35
  went
• 7:36
  for
• 7:36
  a
• 7:37
  couple
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  minutes
• 7:37
  and
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  I'm
• 7:38
  thinking,
• 7:38
  oh
• 7:38
  yeah,
• 7:39
  I'm
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  bird
• 7:39
  watcher.
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  But
• 7:41
  he
• 7:41
  is
• 7:41
  a
• 7:41
  people
• 7:41
  watcher.
• 7:43
  He's
• 7:43
  up
• 7:43
  on
• 7:43
  this
• 7:44
  wall
• 7:45
  looking
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  at
• 7:45
  all
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  people
• 7:46
  go
• 7:46
  by.
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  What
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  does
• 7:47
  he
• 7:47
  think?
• 7:49
  What
• 7:49
  does
• 7:49
  he
• 7:49
  think
• 7:49
  of
• 7:50
  human
• 7:50
  nature?
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  And
• 7:51
  that
• 7:52
  sort
• 7:52
  of
• 7:52
  got
• 7:52
  me
• 7:53
  started
• 7:53
  on
• 7:54
  Seymour,
• 7:55
  who
• 7:55
  is
• 7:55
  S
• 7:56
  e
• 7:56
  m
• 7:57
  o
• 7:57
  r
• 7:57
  e.
• 7:58
  He
• 7:58
  sees
• 7:58
  more
• 7:59
  than
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  average
• 8:00
  seagull.
• 8:00
  What
• 8:01
  does
• 8:01
  he
• 8:01
  think
• 8:02
  about
• 8:03
  what's
• 8:03
  going
• 8:04
  on
• 8:04
  in
• 8:04
  front
• 8:05
  of
• 8:05
  people.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:07
  that
• 8:07
  inspired
• 8:08
  me
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  write
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  first
• 8:09
  book.
• 8:10
  Isn't
• 8:10
  that
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  beautiful
• 8:11
  thing
• 8:12
  about
• 8:12
  being
• 8:13
  a
• 8:13
  children's
• 8:13
  book
• 8:14
  author?
• 8:14
  And
• 8:14
  how
• 8:15
  your
• 8:15
  interpretation
• 8:16
  of
• 8:17
  this
• 8:17
  seagull
• 8:18
  and
• 8:18
  how
• 8:18
  you
• 8:19
  came
• 8:19
  up
• 8:19
  with
• 8:19
  his
• 8:19
  name,
• 8:20
  that's
• 8:20
  just
• 8:20
  fantastic.
• 8:21
  Just
• 8:22
  fantastic.
• 8:23
  You
• 8:23
  wrote
• 8:24
  your
• 8:24
  first
• 8:24
  book,
• 8:25
  and
• 8:26
  did
• 8:27
  it
• 8:27
  motivate
• 8:27
  you
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  say,
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  know
• 8:28
  what?
• 8:28
  Seymour's
• 8:29
  got
• 8:29
  more
• 8:30
  stories
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  tell.
• 8:31
  Give
• 8:31
  us
• 8:31
  some
• 8:32
  insight
• 8:32
  into
• 8:33
  that?
• 8:33
  This
• 8:34
  is
• 8:34
  all
• 8:34
  coincidence,
• 8:35
  but,
• 8:37
  like,
• 8:37
  about
• 8:38
  a
• 8:39
  week
• 8:39
  later,
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  was
• 8:40
  sitting
• 8:41
  in
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  backyard
• 8:42
  of
• 8:42
  my
• 8:42
  friend
• 8:42
  who
• 8:43
  owns
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  bookstore,
• 8:44
  and
• 8:45
  this
• 8:45
  woman
• 8:46
  came
• 8:46
  who
• 8:46
  was
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  children's
• 8:48
  author.
• 8:49
  She
• 8:49
  was
• 8:49
  bringing
• 8:49
  some
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  her
• 8:50
  books.
• 8:51
  And
• 8:51
  then
• 8:51
  we
• 8:51
  got
• 8:51
  to
• 8:52
  talking.
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  said,
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  had
• 8:53
  this
• 8:53
  crazy
• 8:53
  idea.
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  don't
• 8:54
  know,
• 8:55
  somewhere
• 8:55
  down
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  line,
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  might
• 8:57
  write
• 8:57
  a
• 8:57
  children's
• 8:57
  book,
• 8:58
  see
• 8:58
  more
• 8:58
  seagull.
• 8:59
  And
• 9:00
  she
• 9:00
  said,
• 9:00
  if
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  do,
• 9:01
  let
• 9:02
  me
• 9:02
  know,
• 9:02
  because
• 9:02
  I
• 9:03
  illustrate
• 9:03
  books,
• 9:04
  I'd
• 9:04
  be
• 9:04
  more
• 9:04
  than
• 9:04
  willing
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  illustrate
• 9:06
  it.
• 9:06
  I
• 9:07
  said,
• 9:07
  okay.
• 9:09
  And
• 9:09
  then
• 9:09
  she
• 9:09
  said,
• 9:10
  I'm
• 9:10
  also
• 9:10
  in
• 9:10
  connection
• 9:11
  with
• 9:11
  a
• 9:12
  publishing
• 9:12
  company,
• 9:13
  which
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  have
• 9:14
  my
• 9:14
  books
• 9:14
  and
• 9:14
  I'm
• 9:14
  sure
• 9:15
  didn't
• 9:15
  want
• 9:15
  to
• 9:15
  take
• 9:15
  you
• 9:15
  on.
• 9:16
  It's
• 9:16
  a
• 9:17
  children's
• 9:17
  book
• 9:17
  publishing
• 9:18
  company
• 9:19
  called
• 9:19
  Leaning
• 9:20
  Press.
• 9:21
  So
• 9:22
  at
• 9:22
  that
• 9:22
  point,
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  said,
• 9:23
  okay,
• 9:24
  I'm
• 9:24
  going
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  do
• 9:25
  it.
• 9:25
  I
• 9:25
  contacted
• 9:26
  Read
• 9:26
  the
• 9:27
  Signs.
• 9:28
  Yeah.
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  said,
• 9:29
  this
• 9:29
  is
• 9:29
  all
• 9:29
  falling
• 9:30
  into
• 9:30
  place.
• 9:30
  It
• 9:31
  wasn't
• 9:31
  like
• 9:31
  some
• 9:32
  grandiose
• 9:33
  plan
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  had.
• 9:34
  And
• 9:34
  so
• 9:35
  then
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  talked
• 9:35
  to
• 9:36
  the
• 9:36
  publisher.
• 9:36
  She
• 9:36
  was
• 9:37
  very
• 9:37
  excited
• 9:37
  about
• 9:38
  it.
• 9:38
  And
• 9:39
  so
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  went
• 9:39
  ahead
• 9:40
  and
• 9:40
  wrote
• 9:40
  Seymour
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  His
• 9:41
  Ego.
• 9:42
  Now
• 9:42
  all
• 9:42
  my
• 9:42
  stories
• 9:43
  rhyme.
• 9:45
  And
• 9:45
  I.
• 9:45
  That's
• 9:46
  a
• 9:46
  lot
• 9:46
  of
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  comes
• 9:47
  from
• 9:47
  being
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  songwriter
• 9:48
  and
• 9:49
  musician.
• 9:50
  I
• 9:51
  did
• 9:51
  that
• 9:51
  and
• 9:52
  had
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  lot
• 9:52
  of
• 9:53
  success.
• 9:53
  A
• 9:53
  lot
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  people
• 9:54
  liked
• 9:54
  it.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:56
  then
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  was
• 9:56
  thinking
• 9:57
  about,
• 9:57
  what
• 9:57
  other
• 9:58
  lessons
• 9:58
  can
• 9:58
  I
• 9:59
  proceed
• 10:00
  with?
• 10:00
  And
• 10:01
  then
• 10:01
  I
• 10:01
  thought
• 10:01
  about
• 10:02
  acceptance
• 10:02
  and
• 10:03
  awareness
• 10:03
  of
• 10:04
  how
• 10:05
  people
• 10:06
  have
• 10:06
  disabilities,
• 10:07
  how
• 10:07
  others
• 10:07
  should
• 10:08
  treat
• 10:08
  them.
• 10:09
  And
• 10:09
  then
• 10:09
  I
• 10:10
  got
• 10:10
  the
• 10:10
  second
• 10:10
  idea
• 10:12
  with
• 10:12
  Seymour's
• 10:13
  brother
• 10:14
  Sidney,
• 10:15
  who
• 10:15
  got
• 10:16
  caught
• 10:16
  up
• 10:16
  in
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  hurricane
• 10:17
  and
• 10:18
  smashed
• 10:18
  his
• 10:19
  wing
• 10:19
  up
• 10:20
  against
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  wall
• 10:21
  at
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  beach.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:23
  how
• 10:24
  other
• 10:24
  seagulls
• 10:25
  help
• 10:25
  him.
• 10:26
  They
• 10:26
  made
• 10:26
  a
• 10:27
  sling
• 10:27
  out
• 10:28
  of
• 10:28
  kelp.
• 10:29
  Okay.
• 10:29
  And
• 10:30
  they
• 10:30
  made
• 10:30
  him,
• 10:30
  because
• 10:31
  he
• 10:31
  couldn't
• 10:31
  fly,
• 10:32
  the
• 10:33
  guardian
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  seagull
• 10:34
  eggs.
• 10:35
  And
• 10:35
  so
• 10:36
  when
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  predators
• 10:36
  came
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  try
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  steal
• 10:37
  the
• 10:38
  seagull
• 10:38
  eggs,
• 10:39
  he
• 10:40
  kicked
• 10:40
  sand
• 10:41
  in
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  face
• 10:41
  and
• 10:42
  started
• 10:42
  screaming,
• 10:43
  and
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  other
• 10:43
  seagulls
• 10:44
  came
• 10:44
  and
• 10:44
  chased
• 10:45
  him
• 10:45
  off.
• 10:46
  And
• 10:46
  so
• 10:46
  it's
• 10:46
  hooray
• 10:47
  for
• 10:47
  Sydney,
• 10:47
  the
• 10:48
  hero
• 10:48
  of
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  beach.
• 10:49
  That's
• 10:50
  the
• 10:51
  second
• 10:51
  idea,
• 10:52
  and
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  was
• 10:53
  very
• 10:53
  successful.
• 10:54
  So
• 10:54
  I
• 10:54
  said,
• 10:55
  okay.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:56
  then
• 10:56
  I.
• 10:56
  It's
• 10:56
  down
• 10:57
  deep,
• 10:58
  from
• 10:58
  my
• 10:58
  experience
• 10:59
  with
• 11:00
  what
• 11:00
  I
• 11:00
  see,
• 11:00
  what's
• 11:01
  going
• 11:01
  on
• 11:01
  here
• 11:03
  in
• 11:03
  the
• 11:03
  usa
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  also
• 11:05
  my
• 11:05
  experience
• 11:06
  bullying.
• 11:08
  And
• 11:09
  it
• 11:09
  really
• 11:09
  was
• 11:09
  like
• 11:10
  something's
• 11:10
  going
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  be.
• 11:11
  Then
• 11:12
  I
• 11:13
  came
• 11:13
  up
• 11:13
  with
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  idea
• 11:14
  of
• 11:15
  laughing
• 11:16
  gull
• 11:17
  who
• 11:18
  come
• 11:18
  from
• 11:18
  down
• 11:19
  south,
• 11:20
  who
• 11:20
  fly
• 11:21
  up
• 11:21
  north
• 11:21
  when
• 11:22
  it
• 11:22
  gets
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  be
• 11:22
  too
• 11:23
  hot.
• 11:24
  And
• 11:24
  so
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  laughing
• 11:25
  gull
• 11:26
  settles
• 11:27
  in
• 11:28
  Revere
• 11:29
  beach
• 11:30
  when
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  rest
• 11:31
  of
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  seagulls
• 11:31
  are
• 11:31
  herring
• 11:32
  gulls.
• 11:34
  So
• 11:34
  one
• 11:34
  of
• 11:34
  the.
• 11:35
  One
• 11:35
  of
• 11:35
  the
• 11:36
  herring
• 11:37
  gulls,
• 11:37
  Lucy,
• 11:39
  organizes
• 11:40
  a
• 11:40
  bullying
• 11:41
  crowd
• 11:41
  and
• 11:41
  they're
• 11:42
  going
• 11:42
  to
• 11:43
  chase
• 11:43
  her
• 11:43
  off
• 11:44
  or
• 11:44
  bully
• 11:44
  her
• 11:45
  or
• 11:45
  whatever.
• 11:46
  And
• 11:46
  Seymour
• 11:47
  and
• 11:47
  Sidney
• 11:48
  come
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  her
• 11:48
  rescue
• 11:50
  and
• 11:50
  they
• 11:50
  talk
• 11:50
  about
• 11:50
  trying
• 11:51
  not
• 11:51
  to
• 11:51
  be
• 11:51
  too
• 11:51
  preachy
• 11:52
  but
• 11:52
  talking
• 11:52
  about
• 11:53
  bullying.
• 11:54
  Anybody
• 11:54
  could
• 11:55
  be
• 11:55
  bullied.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  then
• 11:57
  Lucy,
• 11:58
  when
• 11:59
  she
• 11:59
  was
• 12:00
  a
• 12:00
  baby
• 12:00
  seagull,
• 12:01
  she
• 12:01
  couldn't
• 12:02
  make
• 12:02
  sounds
• 12:03
  and
• 12:03
  people
• 12:03
  made
• 12:03
  fun
• 12:04
  of
• 12:04
  her.
• 12:04
  And
• 12:05
  so
• 12:05
  they
• 12:05
  pointed
• 12:05
  out.
• 12:06
  How
• 12:06
  did
• 12:06
  that
• 12:06
  make
• 12:06
  you
• 12:07
  feel?
• 12:07
  So
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  point
• 12:08
  is,
• 12:08
  I'm
• 12:08
  trying
• 12:08
  to
• 12:09
  get
• 12:09
  kids
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  see
• 12:11
  how
• 12:12
  it
• 12:12
  feels
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  be
• 12:14
  bullied
• 12:14
  without.
• 12:15
  No,
• 12:16
  the
• 12:17
  two
• 12:17
  preachers.
• 12:18
  Absolutely.
• 12:18
  That's
• 12:19
  their.
• 12:20
  Ralph.
• 12:20
  I'm
• 12:20
  curious
• 12:21
  because
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  always
• 12:22
  talk
• 12:23
  to
• 12:23
  people
• 12:24
  and
• 12:24
  you're
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  real
• 12:25
  inspiration
• 12:26
  because
• 12:27
  the
• 12:27
  next
• 12:27
  question
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  have
• 12:28
  for
• 12:28
  you,
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  always
• 12:29
  talk
• 12:29
  about
• 12:30
  a
• 12:30
  children's
• 12:31
  book
• 12:31
  business.
• 12:32
  I
• 12:32
  find
• 12:33
  that
• 12:33
  most
• 12:33
  children's
• 12:34
  book
• 12:34
  authors,
• 12:35
  they'll
• 12:36
  launch
• 12:36
  a
• 12:36
  book,
• 12:37
  they
• 12:37
  have
• 12:38
  a
• 12:38
  product,
• 12:39
  but
• 12:39
  they
• 12:39
  don't
• 12:39
  know
• 12:40
  how
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  build
• 12:40
  a
• 12:40
  business
• 12:41
  around
• 12:41
  it.
• 12:42
  And
• 12:42
  that's
• 12:42
  why
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  average
• 12:44
  children's
• 12:44
  book
• 12:45
  over
• 12:45
  its
• 12:45
  lifetime
• 12:46
  only
• 12:46
  sells
• 12:46
  between
• 12:47
  200
• 12:48
  and
• 12:48
  500
• 12:49
  copies.
• 12:50
  Even
• 12:50
  if
• 12:50
  you
• 12:50
  sold
• 12:51
  500
• 12:51
  copies,
• 12:52
  you'd
• 12:53
  never
• 12:53
  even
• 12:53
  break
• 12:53
  even.
• 12:54
  I
• 12:55
  asked
• 12:55
  people
• 12:55
  about
• 12:56
  their
• 12:56
  children's
• 12:57
  book
• 12:57
  business
• 12:58
  and
• 12:58
  what
• 12:58
  they're
• 12:59
  doing
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  build
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  business.
• 13:00
  A
• 13:00
  lot
• 13:00
  of
• 13:01
  people
• 13:01
  have
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  marketing
• 13:02
  plan,
• 13:03
  but
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  marketing
• 13:04
  plan
• 13:04
  generally
• 13:05
  is
• 13:05
  only
• 13:05
  1/10
• 13:06
  of
• 13:06
  a
• 13:06
  business
• 13:07
  book
• 13:08
  plan.
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  looked
• 13:09
  at
• 13:09
  your
• 13:09
  website
• 13:10
  and
• 13:10
  I
• 13:10
  was
• 13:11
  just
• 13:11
  flabbergasted.
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  just
• 13:13
  loved
• 13:13
  what
• 13:14
  you've
• 13:14
  been
• 13:14
  doing.
• 13:14
  So
• 13:15
  I
• 13:15
  want
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  delve
• 13:15
  into
• 13:16
  your
• 13:17
  whole
• 13:17
  children's
• 13:18
  book
• 13:18
  business
• 13:19
  because
• 13:20
  I
• 13:20
  also
• 13:20
  have
• 13:20
  never
• 13:21
  had
• 13:21
  one
• 13:22
  take
• 13:22
  their
• 13:22
  book
• 13:23
  series
• 13:24
  and
• 13:25
  entertaining
• 13:26
  children
• 13:26
  through
• 13:27
  music.
• 13:27
  Talk
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  us
• 13:28
  about
• 13:29
  your
• 13:29
  this
• 13:29
  whole
• 13:30
  approach
• 13:30
  because
• 13:30
  when
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  look
• 13:31
  at
• 13:31
  your.
• 13:32
  Your
• 13:32
  website,
• 13:33
  it's
• 13:33
  very
• 13:33
  comprehensive.
• 13:34
  Did
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  roll
• 13:35
  that
• 13:35
  out
• 13:36
  over
• 13:36
  a
• 13:37
  number
• 13:37
  of
• 13:37
  years
• 13:37
  and
• 13:38
  tell
• 13:38
  us
• 13:38
  how
• 13:39
  it
• 13:39
  started?
• 13:39
  Was
• 13:39
  it
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  books
• 13:40
  first
• 13:40
  and
• 13:41
  then
• 13:41
  came
• 13:41
  the
• 13:42
  music
• 13:42
  and
• 13:42
  you
• 13:42
  kept
• 13:43
  building
• 13:43
  out
• 13:43
  from
• 13:43
  there.
• 13:45
  The
• 13:45
  books
• 13:45
  came
• 13:45
  first
• 13:47
  and
• 13:47
  after
• 13:48
  about.
• 13:49
  So
• 13:50
  we're
• 13:50
  like
• 13:50
  in
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  middle
• 13:51
  after
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  first
• 13:52
  book
• 13:52
  came
• 13:53
  out
• 13:53
  or
• 13:54
  owned
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  website
• 13:55
  and
• 13:55
  we've
• 13:55
  been
• 13:55
  updating
• 13:56
  it
• 13:56
  all
• 13:56
  of
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  time.
• 13:58
  I
• 13:58
  have
• 13:58
  a
• 13:58
  person
• 13:59
  who
• 14:00
  designed
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  website,
• 14:01
  he
• 14:01
  does
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  updates.
• 14:03
  I
• 14:04
  also
• 14:04
  have
• 14:05
  hired
• 14:05
  a
• 14:05
  person
• 14:06
  to
• 14:07
  work
• 14:07
  hard
• 14:08
  time
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  help
• 14:09
  Me
• 14:10
  with
• 14:10
  marketing
• 14:12
  and
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  give
• 14:13
  her
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  ideas
• 14:14
  and
• 14:14
  she
• 14:14
  follows
• 14:15
  through
• 14:16
  on
• 14:16
  them.
• 14:16
  We
• 14:17
  meet
• 14:17
  periodically,
• 14:18
  a
• 14:18
  couple
• 14:19
  times
• 14:19
  a
• 14:19
  month.
• 14:20
  And
• 14:21
  basically
• 14:22
  my
• 14:22
  publisher
• 14:23
  puts
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  books
• 14:25
  online
• 14:25
  at
• 14:25
  Amazon
• 14:26
  and
• 14:26
  Barnes
• 14:26
  and
• 14:27
  Noble
• 14:27
  and
• 14:28
  other
• 14:28
  places
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  handles
• 14:30
  the.
• 14:30
  I
• 14:30
  say
• 14:31
  I
• 14:31
  want
• 14:31
  50
• 14:32
  books
• 14:33
  and
• 14:33
  she
• 14:34
  puts
• 14:34
  it
• 14:34
  in
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  order.
• 14:35
  She
• 14:36
  handles
• 14:36
  the
• 14:37
  online
• 14:38
  sales
• 14:39
  as
• 14:39
  part
• 14:39
  of
• 14:39
  the
• 14:40
  publishing
• 14:40
  company.
• 14:41
  But
• 14:41
  I
• 14:42
  sell
• 14:42
  the
• 14:42
  most
• 14:42
  books
• 14:43
  at.
• 14:45
  And
• 14:45
  we're
• 14:45
  not
• 14:45
  in
• 14:46
  person
• 14:46
  because
• 14:47
  I'm
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  musician.
• 14:48
  I
• 14:48
  sell
• 14:48
  them
• 14:49
  at
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  gigs
• 14:50
  I
• 14:50
  perform
• 14:51
  at.
• 14:51
  I
• 14:52
  love
• 14:52
  that
• 14:52
  I
• 14:53
  also
• 14:53
  go
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  lately.
• 14:55
  But
• 14:55
  like
• 14:55
  holiday
• 14:56
  arts
• 14:56
  and
• 14:57
  crafts
• 14:58
  fairs
• 14:59
  and
• 15:00
  farmers
• 15:00
  markets
• 15:01
  and
• 15:01
  things
• 15:01
  set
• 15:02
  up
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  table
• 15:03
  and
• 15:04
  that's
• 15:04
  where
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  sell
• 15:05
  the
• 15:05
  most
• 15:05
  books.
• 15:06
  Do
• 15:06
  you
• 15:06
  play
• 15:07
  music
• 15:07
  when
• 15:08
  you're
• 15:08
  at
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  table?
• 15:09
  Have
• 15:09
  it
• 15:10
  because
• 15:10
  it
• 15:10
  interferes
• 15:11
  with
• 15:11
  the
• 15:12
  people
• 15:12
  who
• 15:13
  are
• 15:14
  around
• 15:14
  you
• 15:15
  don't
• 15:15
  do
• 15:15
  that.
• 15:16
  But
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  have
• 15:17
  done
• 15:17
  situations
• 15:18
  where
• 15:18
  like
• 15:19
  I've
• 15:19
  gone
• 15:19
  into
• 15:19
  schools
• 15:20
  and
• 15:20
  I've
• 15:21
  done
• 15:21
  readings
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  then
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  follow
• 15:22
  it
• 15:22
  up
• 15:23
  playing
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  Seymour
• 15:24
  the
• 15:25
  Seagull
• 15:25
  songs.
• 15:26
  And
• 15:26
  I
• 15:27
  bring
• 15:27
  percussion
• 15:27
  instruments
• 15:28
  and
• 15:28
  they
• 15:28
  do
• 15:28
  like
• 15:29
  Jan,
• 15:30
  which
• 15:31
  really
• 15:31
  well.
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  noticed
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  have
• 15:32
  an
• 15:32
  events
• 15:33
  tab
• 15:33
  on
• 15:34
  your
• 15:34
  website.
• 15:35
  Are
• 15:35
  you
• 15:35
  now
• 15:35
  booking
• 15:36
  events
• 15:37
  because
• 15:37
  of
• 15:37
  your
• 15:38
  children's
• 15:38
  books?
• 15:39
  Oh,
• 15:39
  yes.
• 15:40
  That's
• 15:40
  what
• 15:41
  I'm
• 15:41
  trying
• 15:41
  to.
• 15:41
  That's
• 15:42
  what
• 15:42
  we're
• 15:42
  working
• 15:43
  on.
• 15:43
  This
• 15:44
  woman,
• 15:44
  Erica,
• 15:45
  we
• 15:45
  work
• 15:45
  on
• 15:46
  trying
• 15:46
  to
• 15:47
  book
• 15:48
  schools,
• 15:49
  private
• 15:49
  schools,
• 15:50
  where
• 15:51
  else?
• 15:51
  Like
• 15:51
  homeschool
• 15:52
  collaboratives,
• 15:53
  summer
• 15:54
  camps,
• 15:55
  libraries.
• 15:57
  And
• 15:57
  that
• 15:57
  is
• 15:58
  relatively
• 16:00
  not
• 16:00
  very
• 16:01
  successful.
• 16:01
  I've
• 16:02
  only
• 16:02
  done
• 16:02
  about
• 16:02
  three
• 16:03
  of
• 16:03
  those.
• 16:03
  But
• 16:04
  being
• 16:04
  a
• 16:04
  vendor
• 16:05
  at
• 16:05
  different
• 16:06
  arts
• 16:06
  and
• 16:06
  crafts
• 16:07
  and
• 16:07
  book
• 16:07
  fairs
• 16:07
  is
• 16:08
  very
• 16:08
  successful.
• 16:09
  I
• 16:10
  sell
• 16:10
  some
• 16:10
  books
• 16:11
  online,
• 16:12
  not
• 16:12
  a
• 16:12
  great
• 16:12
  deal.
• 16:13
  What's
• 16:13
  people's
• 16:14
  reactions
• 16:15
  when
• 16:15
  you're
• 16:15
  working
• 16:16
  your
• 16:16
  booth
• 16:16
  at
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  vendor
• 16:17
  fairs?
• 16:18
  And
• 16:18
  you
• 16:18
  also
• 16:19
  mentioned
• 16:19
  that
• 16:19
  you
• 16:20
  have
• 16:20
  complimentary
• 16:21
  CDs
• 16:22
  that
• 16:22
  go
• 16:22
  with
• 16:22
  your
• 16:22
  books.
• 16:23
  Tell
• 16:23
  us
• 16:23
  a
• 16:23
  little
• 16:24
  bit
• 16:24
  about
• 16:24
  that.
• 16:24
  What
• 16:25
  I've
• 16:25
  been
• 16:25
  doing
• 16:26
  is
• 16:27
  if
• 16:27
  you
• 16:27
  buy
• 16:27
  three
• 16:28
  books,
• 16:28
  you
• 16:29
  get
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  free
• 16:29
  cd.
• 16:30
  That's
• 16:31
  your
• 16:31
  book
• 16:31
  bundle
• 16:31
  offer.
• 16:32
  Yeah.
• 16:33
  And
• 16:33
  then
• 16:33
  also
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  offer.
• 16:34
  We
• 16:35
  also
• 16:35
  have
• 16:36
  an
• 16:36
  activity
• 16:37
  book
• 16:37
  which
• 16:37
  my
• 16:37
  publisher
• 16:38
  designed,
• 16:39
  which
• 16:39
  is
• 16:39
  all
• 16:41
  like
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  put
• 16:43
  the
• 16:43
  color
• 16:44
  out
• 16:44
  of
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  illustrations
• 16:45
  so
• 16:46
  kids
• 16:46
  can
• 16:46
  color.
• 16:47
  It's
• 16:47
  like
• 16:47
  a
• 16:47
  coloring
• 16:48
  book.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  then
• 16:49
  there's
• 16:49
  that
• 16:50
  kids
• 16:50
  games
• 16:51
  like
• 16:51
  word
• 16:52
  search,
• 16:53
  crossword
• 16:53
  puzzles,
• 16:54
  Amaze
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  different
• 16:56
  children's
• 16:57
  games
• 16:57
  and
• 16:57
  put
• 16:57
  them
• 16:58
  into
• 16:58
  this
• 16:58
  activity
• 16:59
  book.
• 17:00
  So
• 17:00
  if
• 17:01
  they
• 17:01
  buy
• 17:01
  three
• 17:01
  of
• 17:02
  my
• 17:02
  books,
• 17:03
  I
• 17:03
  also.
• 17:03
  You
• 17:03
  have
• 17:04
  the
• 17:04
  option
• 17:04
  of
• 17:04
  getting
• 17:05
  a
• 17:05
  free
• 17:05
  activity
• 17:06
  book
• 17:07
  that
• 17:07
  helps
• 17:07
  to
• 17:07
  sell.
• 17:08
  The
• 17:08
  books,
• 17:09
  having
• 17:09
  that
• 17:10
  value
• 17:10
  added.
• 17:11
  Yep.
• 17:12
  And
• 17:13
  it's
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  pretty
• 17:13
  good
• 17:13
  value.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  also
• 17:14
  sell
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  books
• 17:16
  less
• 17:17
  at
• 17:17
  these
• 17:17
  vendors
• 17:18
  sites,
• 17:19
  you
• 17:19
  know,
• 17:20
  like
• 17:20
  five
• 17:21
  to
• 17:21
  seven
• 17:21
  dollars
• 17:22
  cheaper
• 17:22
  than
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  list
• 17:23
  price.
• 17:24
  So
• 17:24
  there's
• 17:25
  A
• 17:25
  real
• 17:25
  advantage
• 17:26
  to
• 17:27
  buying
• 17:28
  them
• 17:28
  for
• 17:28
  me
• 17:29
  personally.
• 17:30
  Okay.
• 17:30
  That's
• 17:31
  where
• 17:31
  I
• 17:31
  still
• 17:31
  make
• 17:31
  more
• 17:32
  money
• 17:33
  than
• 17:33
  send.
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  don't
• 17:34
  make
• 17:34
  much
• 17:35
  selling
• 17:36
  them
• 17:36
  online.
• 17:38
  Profit
• 17:38
  is
• 17:38
  not
• 17:39
  much.
• 17:39
  You'll
• 17:40
  probably
• 17:40
  get
• 17:40
  to
• 17:40
  this.
• 17:41
  But
• 17:41
  what
• 17:41
  we're
• 17:42
  working
• 17:42
  on
• 17:42
  is
• 17:43
  I
• 17:43
  wrote
• 17:43
  a
• 17:44
  musical
• 17:45
  based
• 17:46
  on
• 17:46
  the
• 17:47
  stories.
• 17:48
  Seymour
• 17:48
  the
• 17:48
  Seagull
• 17:49
  Musical.
• 17:50
  I
• 17:50
  recorded
• 17:50
  this
• 17:51
  CD
• 17:52
  with
• 17:52
  all
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  songs.
• 17:54
  That's
• 17:54
  terrific.
• 17:54
  Studio.
• 17:55
  And
• 17:56
  so
• 17:56
  they're
• 17:56
  also
• 17:56
  available
• 17:57
  on
• 17:57
  Spotify
• 17:58
  and
• 17:58
  Amazon
• 17:59
  and
• 17:59
  so
• 17:59
  forth,
• 18:00
  but
• 18:00
  they
• 18:00
  can
• 18:00
  be
• 18:00
  purchased
• 18:01
  at
• 18:01
  Amazon
• 18:03
  as
• 18:03
  well
• 18:04
  or
• 18:04
  from
• 18:04
  me
• 18:04
  directly.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:05
  so
• 18:05
  I'm
• 18:06
  using
• 18:06
  these
• 18:06
  songs
• 18:07
  with
• 18:07
  a
• 18:08
  script
• 18:08
  that's
• 18:09
  related
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  content
• 18:11
  of
• 18:11
  three
• 18:12
  books.
• 18:13
  So
• 18:13
  now
• 18:13
  what
• 18:14
  we're
• 18:14
  doing
• 18:15
  is
• 18:15
  trying
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  contact
• 18:17
  local
• 18:17
  theater
• 18:18
  groups
• 18:19
  to
• 18:19
  see
• 18:19
  if
• 18:19
  they
• 18:20
  will.
• 18:21
  That's
• 18:22
  terrific.
• 18:22
  Because
• 18:22
  you
• 18:22
  know
• 18:23
  what?
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  remember
• 18:24
  as
• 18:24
  a
• 18:25
  teenager
• 18:25
  in
• 18:26
  high
• 18:26
  school,
• 18:27
  we
• 18:27
  would
• 18:27
  put
• 18:28
  on
• 18:28
  plays,
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  course.
• 18:29
  And
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  think
• 18:30
  every
• 18:31
  high
• 18:31
  school
• 18:31
  does
• 18:32
  that.
• 18:32
  And
• 18:33
  somebody
• 18:34
  just
• 18:34
  brought
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  the
• 18:35
  script
• 18:35
  and
• 18:35
  said,
• 18:35
  would
• 18:36
  you
• 18:36
  guys
• 18:36
  like
• 18:36
  to
• 18:37
  do
• 18:37
  this?
• 18:37
  And
• 18:37
  we
• 18:38
  did
• 18:38
  it.
• 18:38
  And
• 18:39
  so
• 18:39
  I'm
• 18:39
  not
• 18:39
  sure
• 18:39
  if
• 18:39
  you've
• 18:40
  ever
• 18:40
  approached
• 18:41
  drama
• 18:41
  teachers
• 18:42
  in
• 18:42
  schools,
• 18:42
  but
• 18:43
  it
• 18:43
  might
• 18:44
  be
• 18:44
  fun,
• 18:44
  or
• 18:44
  even
• 18:45
  junior
• 18:45
  high,
• 18:45
  for
• 18:46
  that
• 18:46
  matter.
• 18:47
  We
• 18:48
  have
• 18:48
  approached
• 18:48
  local
• 18:49
  theater
• 18:49
  groups
• 18:50
  who
• 18:52
  put
• 18:52
  on
• 18:52
  children's
• 18:53
  performances.
• 18:54
  Okay.
• 18:55
  So
• 18:55
  I
• 18:55
  have
• 18:56
  what
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  call
• 18:56
  different
• 18:57
  grounds.
• 18:58
  So
• 19:00
  second
• 19:00
  is
• 19:01
  like
• 19:01
  just
• 19:01
  local
• 19:02
  theater
• 19:03
  groups
• 19:03
  because
• 19:03
  it's
• 19:03
  a
• 19:04
  local
• 19:04
  setting.
• 19:05
  Revere,
• 19:06
  Mass.
• 19:07
  So
• 19:07
  we're
• 19:07
  doing
• 19:08
  that
• 19:08
  now.
• 19:09
  And
• 19:10
  we're
• 19:10
  also
• 19:10
  going
• 19:11
  branching
• 19:11
  out
• 19:12
  to
• 19:12
  Massachusetts
• 19:13
  General.
• 19:13
  And
• 19:14
  then
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  next
• 19:15
  round
• 19:15
  would
• 19:16
  be
• 19:16
  high
• 19:16
  schools.
• 19:18
  A
• 19:18
  lot
• 19:18
  of
• 19:18
  high
• 19:18
  schools
• 19:19
  have
• 19:19
  summer
• 19:20
  camps
• 19:21
  and
• 19:21
  they
• 19:21
  put
• 19:22
  on
• 19:22
  performances.
• 19:24
  And
• 19:24
  I've
• 19:25
  been
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  a
• 19:25
  few.
• 19:26
  I've
• 19:27
  had
• 19:27
  a
• 19:27
  couple
• 19:27
  nibbles
• 19:28
  from
• 19:28
  two
• 19:29
  theater
• 19:30
  groups.
• 19:30
  I'm
• 19:30
  glad
• 19:31
  you're
• 19:31
  sharing
• 19:31
  that
• 19:31
  because
• 19:32
  this
• 19:32
  is
• 19:32
  the
• 19:32
  first
• 19:33
  time
• 19:33
  I'm
• 19:33
  hearing
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  taking
• 19:34
  your
• 19:35
  children's
• 19:35
  book
• 19:36
  and
• 19:36
  actually
• 19:37
  turning
• 19:37
  it
• 19:37
  into
• 19:38
  a
• 19:38
  theatric
• 19:39
  performance.
• 19:40
  That's
• 19:40
  just
• 19:40
  terrific.
• 19:41
  And
• 19:41
  I'm
• 19:41
  just
• 19:41
  trying
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  give
• 19:42
  our
• 19:43
  guests
• 19:43
  some
• 19:43
  ideas
• 19:44
  on
• 19:45
  thinking
• 19:46
  outside
• 19:46
  the
• 19:47
  book
• 19:47
  covers.
• 19:48
  Thank
• 19:48
  you
• 19:48
  for
• 19:48
  sharing
• 19:49
  that.
• 19:49
  I
• 19:50
  notice
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  have
• 19:50
  a
• 19:50
  paperback
• 19:51
  and
• 19:51
  hard
• 19:52
  copies.
• 19:53
  Why
• 19:53
  no
• 19:53
  ebook?
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  asked
• 19:56
  a
• 19:56
  question
• 19:56
  to
• 19:57
  my
• 19:57
  publisher,
• 19:58
  and
• 19:59
  she
• 19:59
  seems
• 20:00
  to
• 20:00
  feel
• 20:00
  that
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  quality
• 20:02
  of
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  graphics
• 20:04
  don't
• 20:04
  come
• 20:05
  out
• 20:05
  as
• 20:05
  well
• 20:06
  on
• 20:07
  ebooks.
• 20:08
  Is
• 20:08
  that
• 20:08
  what
• 20:08
  she
• 20:08
  said?
• 20:09
  So
• 20:09
  then
• 20:10
  I
• 20:10
  didn't
• 20:11
  pursue
• 20:11
  it,
• 20:12
  but
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  could
• 20:12
  go
• 20:12
  back
• 20:12
  and
• 20:13
  ask
• 20:13
  her
• 20:13
  that
• 20:13
  again.
• 20:15
  We
• 20:15
  determined
• 20:15
  that
• 20:16
  it's
• 20:17
  a
• 20:17
  workable
• 20:18
  approach.
• 20:18
  I
• 20:19
  would
• 20:19
  definitely
• 20:19
  do
• 20:19
  it.
• 20:20
  Right.
• 20:20
  The
• 20:21
  reason
• 20:21
  I
• 20:21
  mentioned
• 20:22
  this
• 20:22
  is
• 20:23
  that
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  found
• 20:24
  that
• 20:25
  in
• 20:25
  the
• 20:25
  beginning,
• 20:26
  when
• 20:27
  a
• 20:27
  guest
• 20:27
  came
• 20:27
  on,
• 20:28
  I
• 20:28
  was
• 20:28
  purchasing
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  copy
• 20:29
  of
• 20:29
  their
• 20:29
  book.
• 20:30
  And
• 20:30
  eventually
• 20:31
  my
• 20:31
  wife
• 20:31
  said,
• 20:32
  where
• 20:32
  are
• 20:32
  you
• 20:32
  going
• 20:32
  to
• 20:32
  put
• 20:33
  all
• 20:33
  these
• 20:33
  books?
• 20:35
  So
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  Said,
• 20:35
  you
• 20:35
  know
• 20:36
  what,
• 20:36
  I
• 20:37
  better
• 20:37
  start
• 20:37
  downloading
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  ebooks.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:39
  then
• 20:39
  what
• 20:40
  ended
• 20:40
  up
• 20:40
  happening
• 20:41
  is
• 20:41
  as
• 20:41
  I
• 20:42
  was
• 20:42
  downloading
• 20:42
  the
• 20:43
  ebooks
• 20:43
  onto
• 20:44
  my
• 20:44
  iPad,
• 20:45
  the
• 20:45
  color
• 20:46
  was
• 20:46
  coming
• 20:46
  out
• 20:47
  absolutely
• 20:47
  gorgeous.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:50
  then
• 20:50
  when
• 20:50
  I
• 20:50
  started
• 20:51
  talking
• 20:51
  to
• 20:52
  people
• 20:52
  about
• 20:52
  their
• 20:52
  ebooks,
• 20:53
  most
• 20:54
  children's
• 20:54
  book
• 20:54
  authors
• 20:55
  don't
• 20:55
  sell
• 20:55
  a
• 20:55
  lot
• 20:56
  of
• 20:56
  ebooks,
• 20:57
  but
• 20:57
  what
• 20:57
  they
• 20:58
  do
• 20:58
  is
• 20:59
  they
• 20:59
  use
• 20:59
  them
• 20:59
  for
• 21:00
  promotions
• 21:01
  and
• 21:01
  they
• 21:01
  find
• 21:01
  that
• 21:02
  when
• 21:02
  they
• 21:02
  have
• 21:02
  an
• 21:02
  ebook,
• 21:03
  people
• 21:04
  tend
• 21:04
  to
• 21:04
  buy
• 21:05
  their
• 21:06
  printed
• 21:06
  copy
• 21:07
  book
• 21:07
  because
• 21:08
  it's
• 21:08
  nice
• 21:09
  to
• 21:09
  have
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  ebook
• 21:10
  if
• 21:10
  you're
• 21:10
  on
• 21:10
  a
• 21:10
  trip,
• 21:11
  but
• 21:11
  kids
• 21:11
  like
• 21:12
  to
• 21:12
  hold
• 21:12
  the
• 21:12
  book.
• 21:13
  So
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  thought,
• 21:14
  interesting.
• 21:15
  So
• 21:15
  I'm
• 21:15
  just
• 21:15
  throwing
• 21:15
  that
• 21:16
  out
• 21:16
  at
• 21:16
  you.
• 21:17
  I
• 21:17
  think
• 21:17
  I'll
• 21:17
  go
• 21:18
  back
• 21:18
  and
• 21:18
  revisit
• 21:18
  that
• 21:19
  my
• 21:19
  publisher
• 21:20
  and
• 21:20
  see
• 21:20
  what
• 21:20
  she
• 21:21
  thinks
• 21:21
  because
• 21:21
  she
• 21:21
  has
• 21:22
  over
• 21:22
  30
• 21:22
  different
• 21:23
  authors.
• 21:24
  What
• 21:24
  has
• 21:24
  been
• 21:25
  their
• 21:25
  experience?
• 21:26
  I
• 21:26
  think
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  biggest
• 21:27
  thing
• 21:27
  is
• 21:27
  they
• 21:28
  get
• 21:28
  hung
• 21:28
  up
• 21:28
  on
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  book
• 21:29
  formatting
• 21:30
  because
• 21:30
  it's
• 21:31
  not
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  same
• 21:31
  book
• 21:32
  format
• 21:33
  as
• 21:34
  when
• 21:34
  you
• 21:34
  go
• 21:34
  to
• 21:35
  print.
• 21:35
  But
• 21:37
  I
• 21:37
  was
• 21:37
  lucky.
• 21:37
  I've
• 21:38
  written
• 21:38
  two
• 21:38
  children's
• 21:39
  book
• 21:39
  with
• 21:39
  my
• 21:40
  grandchildren
• 21:41
  and
• 21:41
  our
• 21:41
  book
• 21:41
  formatter
• 21:42
  for
• 21:43
  print,
• 21:44
  soft
• 21:44
  cover
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  hardcover
• 21:46
  is
• 21:46
  also
• 21:47
  the
• 21:47
  formatter
• 21:48
  for
• 21:48
  the
• 21:49
  ebook.
• 21:49
  And
• 21:49
  he
• 21:50
  told
• 21:50
  me,
• 21:50
  rick,
• 21:50
  it's,
• 21:51
  it
• 21:51
  takes
• 21:51
  a
• 21:52
  different
• 21:52
  type
• 21:52
  of
• 21:52
  formatting.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:54
  I
• 21:54
  had
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  pay
• 21:54
  a
• 21:54
  little
• 21:55
  bit
• 21:55
  more
• 21:55
  money
• 21:55
  for
• 21:56
  it.
• 21:56
  But
• 21:56
  at
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  end
• 21:57
  of
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  day,
• 21:57
  I
• 21:57
  was
• 21:57
  pretty
• 21:58
  happy
• 21:58
  with
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  result.
• 21:59
  I
• 21:59
  just
• 21:59
  mentioned
• 21:59
  that
• 22:00
  to
• 22:00
  you.
• 22:00
  I'll
• 22:01
  look
• 22:01
  into
• 22:01
  that.
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  want
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  talk
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  you
• 22:02
  a
• 22:02
  bit
• 22:02
  now
• 22:03
  that
• 22:03
  we're
• 22:03
  talking
• 22:03
  about
• 22:04
  your
• 22:04
  publishing
• 22:05
  company.
• 22:06
  First
• 22:06
  of
• 22:06
  all,
• 22:06
  it's
• 22:07
  nice,
• 22:08
  you're
• 22:08
  extremely
• 22:09
  lucky
• 22:09
  and
• 22:09
  you,
• 22:10
  and
• 22:10
  I
• 22:10
  know
• 22:10
  you
• 22:10
  recognize
• 22:11
  that
• 22:11
  because
• 22:12
  most
• 22:12
  people
• 22:12
  when
• 22:13
  they
• 22:13
  look
• 22:13
  for
• 22:14
  a
• 22:14
  self
• 22:14
  published,
• 22:15
  hybrid
• 22:16
  publisher,
• 22:17
  they
• 22:17
  have
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  do
• 22:17
  a
• 22:18
  lot
• 22:18
  of
• 22:18
  work
• 22:18
  and
• 22:19
  some
• 22:19
  people
• 22:19
  get
• 22:20
  stung
• 22:20
  and
• 22:21
  all
• 22:21
  that
• 22:21
  kind
• 22:21
  of
• 22:21
  good
• 22:21
  stuff.
• 22:22
  But
• 22:22
  you
• 22:23
  ran
• 22:24
  into
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  children's
• 22:25
  book
• 22:25
  author
• 22:25
  who
• 22:26
  had
• 22:26
  great
• 22:26
  experience
• 22:27
  and
• 22:28
  said,
• 22:28
  hey,
• 22:29
  Ralph,
• 22:29
  you
• 22:29
  should
• 22:30
  come
• 22:30
  with
• 22:30
  my
• 22:31
  establishing
• 22:32
  company.
• 22:33
  So
• 22:34
  I
• 22:34
  know
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  story
• 22:34
  behind
• 22:35
  that.
• 22:35
  But
• 22:35
  when
• 22:36
  it
• 22:36
  came
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  publishing
• 22:37
  your
• 22:37
  children's
• 22:37
  book,
• 22:38
  what
• 22:38
  was
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  biggest
• 22:39
  challenge
• 22:40
  or
• 22:40
  frustration
• 22:41
  for
• 22:41
  you?
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  had
• 22:43
  no
• 22:43
  problem
• 22:43
  with
• 22:45
  actually
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  making
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  book.
• 22:47
  I
• 22:47
  liked
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  illustrations.
• 22:49
  The
• 22:49
  publisher
• 22:49
  kind
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  served
• 22:50
  as
• 22:50
  an
• 22:51
  editor
• 22:51
  in
• 22:51
  some
• 22:51
  ways
• 22:52
  in
• 22:52
  terms
• 22:53
  of
• 22:53
  like
• 22:54
  real
• 22:54
  specific,
• 22:55
  minor,
• 22:56
  like
• 22:57
  grammatical
• 22:57
  things
• 22:58
  or
• 22:58
  spaces
• 22:59
  here
• 22:59
  and
• 23:00
  so
• 23:00
  forth.
• 23:00
  The
• 23:01
  publishing
• 23:01
  came
• 23:01
  out,
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  book
• 23:03
  came
• 23:03
  out.
• 23:03
  I
• 23:03
  was
• 23:03
  very
• 23:03
  happy
• 23:04
  with
• 23:04
  that.
• 23:04
  It's
• 23:05
  afterwards,
• 23:06
  it
• 23:06
  is
• 23:07
  okay,
• 23:07
  yeah,
• 23:08
  Now
• 23:08
  I
• 23:08
  have
• 23:08
  the
• 23:09
  book.
• 23:09
  Now
• 23:09
  what
• 23:10
  it's
• 23:10
  in
• 23:10
  the
• 23:11
  marketing
• 23:12
  and
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  sales.
• 23:13
  It's
• 23:14
  really.
• 23:15
  Anybody
• 23:15
  say
• 23:15
  that
• 23:16
  it's
• 23:16
  easy.
• 23:16
  It's
• 23:16
  not.
• 23:17
  It's
• 23:17
  every
• 23:18
  day
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  have
• 23:18
  to
• 23:19
  keep
• 23:19
  like
• 23:20
  Facebook
• 23:20
  postings,
• 23:21
  Instagram
• 23:23
  I've
• 23:23
  read
• 23:24
  a
• 23:24
  couple
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  books
• 23:24
  on
• 23:25
  marketing
• 23:25
  children's
• 23:26
  books.
• 23:27
  I've
• 23:27
  hired
• 23:27
  someone
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  help
• 23:28
  me.
• 23:29
  I've
• 23:30
  done
• 23:30
  videos
• 23:31
  on
• 23:31
  local
• 23:31
  cable.
• 23:32
  I'm
• 23:33
  trying
• 23:34
  everything.
• 23:34
  And
• 23:35
  it's
• 23:36
  ongoing.
• 23:37
  It's
• 23:38
  ongoing
• 23:38
  and
• 23:39
  it's,
• 23:39
  it's.
• 23:40
  You
• 23:40
  have
• 23:40
  to
• 23:41
  fight
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  battle
• 23:42
  of
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  demons
• 23:43
  of
• 23:43
  self
• 23:44
  doubt.
• 23:44
  I
• 23:45
  think
• 23:45
  you
• 23:45
  all
• 23:45
  have
• 23:45
  to
• 23:46
  do
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  when
• 23:46
  you
• 23:46
  don't
• 23:47
  get
• 23:47
  results.
• 23:48
  Is
• 23:48
  it's
• 23:49
  too
• 23:49
  easy
• 23:50
  to
• 23:50
  give
• 23:50
  up?
• 23:52
  Yes.
• 23:52
  And
• 23:53
  sometimes
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  think
• 23:54
  now
• 23:54
  again
• 23:54
  after
• 23:55
  hear
• 23:56
  about
• 23:56
  my
• 23:56
  75th
• 23:57
  children's
• 23:58
  book
• 23:58
  author
• 23:58
  that
• 23:59
  I've
• 23:59
  interviewed.
• 23:59
  And
• 24:00
  I
• 24:00
  find
• 24:00
  some
• 24:01
  people,
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  don't
• 24:03
  want
• 24:03
  to
• 24:03
  sound
• 24:03
  negative,
• 24:03
  but
• 24:04
  they
• 24:04
  settle
• 24:05
  for
• 24:05
  whatever
• 24:06
  happens.
• 24:07
  And
• 24:08
  you
• 24:08
  know
• 24:08
  what?
• 24:08
  I've
• 24:09
  talked
• 24:09
  to
• 24:09
  traditionally
• 24:10
  published
• 24:10
  children's
• 24:11
  book
• 24:11
  authors.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:12
  whether
• 24:13
  you're
• 24:13
  an
• 24:13
  independently
• 24:14
  published
• 24:15
  book
• 24:15
  author,
• 24:15
  where
• 24:16
  you've
• 24:16
  done
• 24:16
  all
• 24:16
  the
• 24:16
  work
• 24:17
  and
• 24:17
  you've
• 24:17
  published
• 24:18
  it,
• 24:18
  or
• 24:18
  you're
• 24:19
  a
• 24:19
  hybrid
• 24:20
  self
• 24:20
  published
• 24:21
  author
• 24:21
  like
• 24:21
  yourself,
• 24:22
  or
• 24:22
  traditionally
• 24:23
  published,
• 24:24
  what
• 24:24
  I
• 24:24
  found
• 24:25
  is
• 24:25
  it
• 24:25
  still
• 24:26
  comes
• 24:26
  down
• 24:26
  to
• 24:27
  it's
• 24:27
  all
• 24:27
  up
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  you.
• 24:29
  At
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  end
• 24:29
  of
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  day,
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  trick
• 24:31
  is
• 24:31
  to
• 24:32
  find
• 24:33
  maybe
• 24:33
  two
• 24:34
  or
• 24:34
  three
• 24:34
  things
• 24:34
  that
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  do
• 24:35
  well.
• 24:36
  That's
• 24:36
  what
• 24:36
  I
• 24:36
  love
• 24:37
  about
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  being
• 24:37
  an
• 24:38
  entertainer
• 24:39
  and
• 24:39
  being
• 24:39
  able
• 24:40
  to
• 24:40
  tie
• 24:40
  that
• 24:41
  in.
• 24:41
  That's
• 24:42
  just
• 24:42
  phenomenal.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:44
  it's
• 24:44
  nice
• 24:44
  that
• 24:44
  you
• 24:44
  have
• 24:45
  that.
• 24:45
  Skill,
• 24:46
  you
• 24:46
  know,
• 24:47
  that
• 24:47
  really
• 24:48
  helps
• 24:48
  a
• 24:49
  lot.
• 24:50
  And
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  songs
• 24:52
  that
• 24:52
  are
• 24:52
  based
• 24:52
  on
• 24:52
  the
• 24:53
  stories,
• 24:53
  but
• 24:53
  they're
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  the
• 24:55
  styling
• 24:55
  of
• 24:57
  traditional
• 24:58
  sea
• 24:58
  shanties
• 24:59
  and
• 24:59
  Irish
• 25:00
  music
• 25:01
  because
• 25:01
  it's
• 25:01
  like
• 25:02
  nautical
• 25:02
  sounds.
• 25:03
  I
• 25:03
  play
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  concertina
• 25:05
  and
• 25:05
  the
• 25:06
  accordion
• 25:07
  and
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  piano.
• 25:08
  It
• 25:09
  has
• 25:09
  fiddle,
• 25:09
  it
• 25:10
  has
• 25:10
  penny
• 25:10
  whistle.
• 25:11
  So
• 25:12
  it
• 25:12
  sounds
• 25:12
  nautical.
• 25:14
  And
• 25:14
  that
• 25:14
  fits
• 25:14
  it
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  the
• 25:16
  books.
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  love
• 25:17
  that.
• 25:18
  Yeah.
• 25:19
  Congratulations.
• 25:21
  Thank
• 25:21
  you.
• 25:22
  So
• 25:22
  it's
• 25:23
  like
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  say
• 25:24
  one
• 25:25
  other
• 25:25
  thing.
• 25:25
  I
• 25:25
  don't
• 25:25
  know
• 25:25
  if
• 25:26
  we're
• 25:26
  going
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  mention
• 25:26
  this,
• 25:27
  but
• 25:27
  I'm
• 25:27
  a
• 25:28
  member
• 25:28
  of
• 25:28
  a
• 25:29
  writers
• 25:29
  collaborative
• 25:31
  called
• 25:31
  Ella's
• 25:32
  Way.
• 25:33
  Early
• 25:34
  Learning
• 25:34
  leads
• 25:35
  to
• 25:35
  Acceptance.
• 25:36
  It's
• 25:37
  a
• 25:37
  writing
• 25:37
  collaborative
• 25:38
  of
• 25:38
  about
• 25:38
  34
• 25:39
  different
• 25:40
  authors
• 25:42
  run
• 25:42
  by
• 25:42
  this
• 25:42
  woman,
• 25:43
  Sherry
• 25:43
  Serino.
• 25:45
  And
• 25:46
  what
• 25:46
  we
• 25:47
  do
• 25:47
  is
• 25:48
  we
• 25:48
  donate
• 25:49
  books.
• 25:49
  They
• 25:49
  all
• 25:50
  have
• 25:51
  lessons
• 25:51
  in
• 25:51
  kindness.
• 25:52
  All
• 25:52
  right,
• 25:53
  so
• 25:53
  not
• 25:53
  so
• 25:54
  everybody
• 25:54
  their
• 25:55
  children's
• 25:55
  books
• 25:56
  that
• 25:56
  teach
• 25:56
  lessons
• 25:57
  in
• 25:57
  kindness
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  we
• 25:58
  donate
• 25:58
  books
• 25:59
  to
• 25:59
  like
• 26:00
  children's
• 26:00
  hospitals,
• 26:01
  literacy
• 26:02
  centers,
• 26:03
  places
• 26:03
  like
• 26:03
  that.
• 26:04
  That's
• 26:04
  also
• 26:06
  a
• 26:06
  big
• 26:06
  part
• 26:06
  of
• 26:07
  what
• 26:07
  I'm
• 26:07
  involved
• 26:08
  in.
• 26:09
  And
• 26:10
  we
• 26:10
  do
• 26:10
  great
• 26:11
  work.
• 26:11
  Yes.
• 26:12
  And
• 26:12
  you
• 26:12
  know
• 26:12
  what,
• 26:13
  Ralph,
• 26:13
  you're
• 26:14
  probably,
• 26:14
  I
• 26:15
  think
• 26:15
  my
• 26:15
  third
• 26:16
  or
• 26:16
  fourth
• 26:16
  guest
• 26:17
  from
• 26:17
  Alice
• 26:18
  Way.
• 26:18
  Oh,
• 26:19
  wow.
• 26:20
  Great.
• 26:21
  So
• 26:22
  it's
• 26:22
  fun
• 26:22
  and
• 26:24
  all
• 26:24
  great
• 26:24
  people
• 26:25
  who
• 26:26
  come
• 26:26
  on.
• 26:27
  I'm
• 26:27
  going
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  have
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  start
• 26:28
  flagging
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  authors
• 26:30
  that
• 26:30
  are
• 26:30
  coming
• 26:30
  to
• 26:31
  me
• 26:31
  from
• 26:31
  Alice
• 26:32
  Waite.
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  Appreciate
• 26:33
  you
• 26:33
  mentioning
• 26:34
  that,
• 26:34
  because
• 26:35
  again,
• 26:36
  we're
• 26:36
  trying
• 26:36
  to
• 26:36
  help
• 26:37
  aspiring
• 26:37
  children's
• 26:38
  book
• 26:38
  authors,
• 26:39
  and
• 26:39
  if
• 26:39
  they
• 26:40
  can
• 26:40
  look
• 26:40
  at
• 26:40
  a
• 26:40
  way
• 26:41
  to
• 26:41
  keep
• 26:41
  motivated,
• 26:42
  to
• 26:43
  keep
• 26:43
  bringing
• 26:43
  their
• 26:43
  books
• 26:44
  to
• 26:45
  life,
• 26:46
  having
• 26:46
  that
• 26:47
  support
• 26:47
  piece
• 26:47
  is
• 26:48
  always
• 26:48
  so
• 26:48
  important.
• 26:49
  So
• 26:49
  I
• 26:50
  appreciate
• 26:50
  you
• 26:50
  mentioning
• 26:51
  that.
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  also
• 26:52
  wanted
• 26:53
  to
• 26:53
  talk
• 26:53
  to
• 26:53
  you
• 26:54
  about
• 26:54
  your
• 26:55
  illustrations
• 26:56
  because
• 26:56
  you
• 26:56
  mentioned
• 26:57
  that
• 26:57
  earlier.
• 26:58
  And.
• 26:58
  And
• 26:58
  I
• 26:58
  don't
• 26:59
  want
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  take
• 26:59
  away
• 26:59
  from
• 27:00
  that,
• 27:00
  because
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  think
• 27:00
  you
• 27:01
  have
• 27:01
  two
• 27:01
  illustrators.
• 27:02
  You
• 27:02
  have
• 27:02
  Amanda
• 27:03
  and
• 27:03
  Jorie.
• 27:05
  Yes.
• 27:06
  So
• 27:06
  tell
• 27:06
  us
• 27:06
  about
• 27:06
  that
• 27:07
  experience
• 27:07
  and
• 27:08
  how
• 27:08
  do
• 27:08
  you
• 27:08
  work
• 27:08
  with
• 27:08
  two
• 27:09
  illustrators?
• 27:09
  Because
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  lot
• 27:10
  of
• 27:10
  my
• 27:11
  children's
• 27:11
  book
• 27:11
  authors,
• 27:12
  we
• 27:12
  talk
• 27:12
  about
• 27:13
  how
• 27:13
  hard
• 27:13
  it
• 27:13
  is
• 27:14
  to
• 27:14
  find
• 27:14
  an
• 27:14
  illustrator,
• 27:15
  and
• 27:15
  then
• 27:15
  when
• 27:16
  we
• 27:16
  do,
• 27:16
  then
• 27:17
  we
• 27:17
  kind
• 27:17
  of
• 27:17
  stick
• 27:18
  with
• 27:18
  them.
• 27:18
  But
• 27:18
  you've
• 27:19
  got
• 27:19
  two.
• 27:19
  So
• 27:20
  tell
• 27:20
  us
• 27:20
  about
• 27:20
  that
• 27:21
  experience.
• 27:21
  Like
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  told
• 27:22
  you,
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  met
• 27:23
  Amanda
• 27:23
  in
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  backyard
• 27:24
  of
• 27:25
  my
• 27:25
  friend's
• 27:26
  bookstore.
• 27:27
  She
• 27:27
  did
• 27:27
  the
• 27:28
  illustrations
• 27:28
  for
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  first
• 27:29
  book.
• 27:29
  She
• 27:29
  did
• 27:30
  a
• 27:30
  very
• 27:30
  good
• 27:30
  job.
• 27:31
  But
• 27:31
  then
• 27:31
  she
• 27:32
  moved
• 27:32
  on
• 27:33
  into
• 27:33
  doing
• 27:34
  other
• 27:34
  things.
• 27:35
  And
• 27:36
  so
• 27:36
  then
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  needed
• 27:37
  an
• 27:38
  illustrator
• 27:38
  for
• 27:38
  my
• 27:38
  second
• 27:39
  book.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:40
  I
• 27:40
  approached
• 27:41
  the
• 27:41
  Winthrop
• 27:41
  Arc
• 27:42
  association,
• 27:43
  of
• 27:44
  which
• 27:44
  I
• 27:44
  am
• 27:44
  a
• 27:44
  member.
• 27:45
  And
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  leader
• 27:46
  of
• 27:46
  that
• 27:47
  sent
• 27:47
  out
• 27:48
  a
• 27:48
  sort
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  like
• 27:48
  an
• 27:49
  email.
• 27:49
  And
• 27:49
  the
• 27:50
  sister
• 27:50
  of
• 27:50
  Jory
• 27:51
  Mason
• 27:53
  saw
• 27:53
  that
• 27:53
  and
• 27:54
  she
• 27:54
  contacted
• 27:55
  me.
• 27:56
  And
• 27:57
  then
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  contacted
• 27:58
  Juri
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  I
• 27:59
  took
• 27:59
  a
• 27:59
  look
• 27:59
  at
• 27:59
  her
• 27:59
  work.
• 28:00
  And
• 28:00
  she's
• 28:01
  a
• 28:01
  great
• 28:02
  pastel
• 28:03
  painter
• 28:04
  and
• 28:04
  teaches
• 28:05
  pastel
• 28:05
  painting
• 28:06
  and
• 28:06
  won
• 28:06
  awards.
• 28:07
  We
• 28:08
  went
• 28:08
  ahead
• 28:08
  and
• 28:09
  worked
• 28:09
  with
• 28:10
  her.
• 28:10
  I
• 28:10
  worked
• 28:11
  with
• 28:11
  both
• 28:11
  illustrators.
• 28:12
  You
• 28:12
  got
• 28:12
  a
• 28:13
  back
• 28:13
  and
• 28:13
  forth
• 28:14
  thing.
• 28:14
  And
• 28:15
  painters
• 28:15
  and
• 28:15
  illustrators
• 28:16
  are
• 28:16
  what
• 28:16
  I
• 28:17
  call
• 28:18
  artistes.
• 28:19
  Yes.
• 28:21
  They
• 28:21
  have
• 28:21
  their
• 28:22
  work
• 28:22
  that
• 28:23
  they
• 28:23
  want
• 28:24
  and
• 28:24
  I
• 28:25
  have
• 28:25
  what
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  want,
• 28:26
  and
• 28:26
  usually
• 28:26
  it's
• 28:27
  me
• 28:27
  in
• 28:27
  the
• 28:27
  middle
• 28:28
  kind
• 28:28
  of
• 28:28
  thing,
• 28:29
  but
• 28:29
  most
• 28:29
  of
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  time
• 28:30
  they
• 28:31
  come
• 28:31
  up
• 28:31
  with,
• 28:31
  and
• 28:32
  I
• 28:32
  don't
• 28:32
  usually
• 28:33
  say
• 28:34
  anything
• 28:34
  else,
• 28:34
  ask
• 28:35
  some
• 28:35
  questions
• 28:35
  about
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  COVID
• 28:36
  in
• 28:37
  both
• 28:37
  books.
• 28:37
  But
• 28:38
  it's
• 28:39
  give
• 28:40
  and
• 28:40
  take
• 28:40
  process.
• 28:42
  And
• 28:42
  that's
• 28:42
  the
• 28:42
  whole
• 28:42
  thing
• 28:43
  is
• 28:44
  I
• 28:44
  find
• 28:45
  that
• 28:45
  with
• 28:45
  everybody
• 28:46
  is
• 28:46
  that
• 28:47
  once
• 28:47
  they
• 28:47
  find
• 28:48
  an
• 28:48
  illustrator
• 28:49
  that
• 28:49
  they
• 28:49
  can
• 28:49
  work
• 28:49
  with
• 28:50
  and
• 28:50
  have
• 28:50
  that
• 28:51
  dialogue
• 28:52
  with,
• 28:53
  they're
• 28:53
  providing
• 28:53
  you
• 28:54
  with
• 28:54
  some
• 28:54
  ideas,
• 28:55
  and
• 28:55
  you're
• 28:55
  providing
• 28:56
  them
• 28:56
  with
• 28:56
  what
• 28:57
  you're
• 28:57
  trying
• 28:58
  to
• 28:58
  visualize
• 28:59
  right
• 29:00
  now,
• 29:00
  having
• 29:00
  the
• 29:00
  first
• 29:01
  book,
• 29:01
  did
• 29:01
  that
• 29:01
  make
• 29:02
  it
• 29:02
  easier
• 29:03
  for
• 29:03
  Jori
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  do
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  second
• 29:05
  and
• 29:06
  third
• 29:06
  book?
• 29:07
  Yes,
• 29:08
  I
• 29:08
  believe
• 29:08
  it
• 29:08
  did.
• 29:09
  And
• 29:10
  also
• 29:10
  another
• 29:10
  thing
• 29:11
  I
• 29:11
  do
• 29:11
  with
• 29:11
  each
• 29:12
  book
• 29:12
  is
• 29:12
  in
• 29:12
  the
• 29:13
  back
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  book
• 29:14
  are
• 29:14
  photos.
• 29:15
  Some
• 29:15
  of
• 29:16
  them
• 29:16
  have
• 29:16
  been
• 29:16
  taken
• 29:17
  by
• 29:17
  my
• 29:17
  friend
• 29:17
  Steve
• 29:18
  Levin,
• 29:18
  who's
• 29:19
  a
• 29:19
  photographer
• 29:20
  about
• 29:20
  Revere
• 29:21
  Beach.
• 29:22
  So
• 29:23
  he's
• 29:23
  taken
• 29:23
  pictures
• 29:24
  of
• 29:26
  scenes
• 29:26
  from
• 29:26
  Revere
• 29:27
  beach,
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  seagulls
• 29:28
  eating
• 29:29
  food
• 29:29
  out
• 29:30
  of
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  trash
• 29:30
  can
• 29:30
  in
• 29:31
  front
• 29:31
  of
• 29:31
  Kelly's
• 29:31
  Roast
• 29:32
  beef,
• 29:32
  the
• 29:33
  Sand
• 29:33
  Castle.
• 29:34
  Revere
• 29:34
  has
• 29:34
  a
• 29:35
  international
• 29:36
  sandcastle
• 29:37
  festival
• 29:37
  every
• 29:38
  year
• 29:39
  and
• 29:39
  he's
• 29:40
  taken
• 29:40
  photos
• 29:41
  of
• 29:42
  sandcastles.
• 29:43
  So
• 29:44
  we
• 29:44
  have
• 29:44
  all
• 29:44
  that
• 29:44
  information.
• 29:45
  Photos
• 29:46
  of
• 29:46
  Revere
• 29:47
  beach,
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  sand
• 29:49
  castles.
• 29:50
  So
• 29:50
  all
• 29:50
  of
• 29:50
  that
• 29:52
  was
• 29:52
  used
• 29:53
  by
• 29:53
  both
• 29:54
  illustrators
• 29:55
  because
• 29:55
  he
• 29:55
  did
• 29:55
  the.
• 29:56
  Okay,
• 29:57
  yeah.
• 29:57
  So
• 29:57
  that's
• 29:58
  interesting
• 29:58
  you
• 29:58
  should
• 29:58
  say
• 29:59
  that
• 29:59
  because
• 30:00
  I
• 30:00
  mentioned
• 30:01
  about
• 30:01
  are
• 30:02
  two
• 30:02
  books
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  we
• 30:03
  have
• 30:03
  in
• 30:04
  print
• 30:04
  and
• 30:05
  I
• 30:05
  co
• 30:05
  authored
• 30:06
  with
• 30:06
  my
• 30:06
  two
• 30:06
  granddaughters.
• 30:07
  I
• 30:08
  have
• 30:08
  five
• 30:08
  grandchildren
• 30:09
  in
• 30:10
  total.
• 30:10
  We've
• 30:10
  written
• 30:11
  38
• 30:11
  different
• 30:12
  stories.
• 30:12
  We
• 30:12
  just
• 30:13
  haven't
• 30:13
  been
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  cost
• 30:14
  to
• 30:14
  illustrating
• 30:15
  that
• 30:15
  makes
• 30:16
  it
• 30:16
  pretty
• 30:16
  expensive
• 30:17
  to
• 30:17
  bring
• 30:18
  all
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  38
• 30:18
  to
• 30:19
  life.
• 30:19
  But
• 30:19
  one
• 30:19
  thing
• 30:20
  that
• 30:20
  we
• 30:21
  did
• 30:21
  is
• 30:21
  exactly
• 30:22
  what
• 30:22
  you're
• 30:22
  describing,
• 30:23
  Ralph.
• 30:24
  All
• 30:24
  of
• 30:24
  our
• 30:24
  stories
• 30:25
  are
• 30:25
  based
• 30:25
  on
• 30:26
  true
• 30:26
  stories
• 30:26
  in
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  Rocky
• 30:27
  Mountains.
• 30:29
  Luckily,
• 30:29
  of
• 30:30
  course,
• 30:30
  nowadays
• 30:31
  we
• 30:31
  have
• 30:32
  this
• 30:32
  thing
• 30:33
  called
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  iPhone
• 30:34
  or
• 30:34
  smartphone.
• 30:35
  I
• 30:36
  have
• 30:36
  thousands
• 30:37
  of
• 30:37
  pictures
• 30:37
  and
• 30:38
  we
• 30:38
  were
• 30:38
  able
• 30:38
  to
• 30:39
  build
• 30:39
  our
• 30:39
  adventure
• 30:39
  stories
• 30:40
  off
• 30:41
  of
• 30:41
  those
• 30:41
  pictures.
• 30:41
  So
• 30:42
  thank
• 30:42
  you
• 30:42
  for
• 30:42
  sharing
• 30:43
  that
• 30:43
  because
• 30:43
  I
• 30:43
  think
• 30:43
  it's
• 30:44
  really
• 30:44
  important
• 30:45
  that
• 30:45
  aspiring
• 30:46
  children's
• 30:46
  book
• 30:47
  authors
• 30:47
  know
• 30:48
  there's
• 30:48
  so
• 30:49
  many
• 30:49
  ways
• 30:49
  that
• 30:49
  you
• 30:50
  can
• 30:51
  develop
• 30:51
  your
• 30:51
  story
• 30:53
  and
• 30:53
  then
• 30:53
  to
• 30:53
  actually
• 30:54
  use
• 30:54
  the
• 30:54
  pictures
• 30:55
  in
• 30:55
  your
• 30:56
  book
• 30:56
  as
• 30:56
  part
• 30:57
  of
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  inspiration.
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  think
• 30:58
  that's
• 30:58
  pretty
• 30:58
  cool
• 30:59
  too.
• 31:00
  Another
• 31:00
  thing
• 31:01
  that
• 31:01
  you
• 31:01
  can
• 31:02
  do,
• 31:02
  which
• 31:02
  I
• 31:02
  had
• 31:02
  done
• 31:03
  is
• 31:04
  I
• 31:04
  got
• 31:04
  all
• 31:05
  the
• 31:05
  PDFs
• 31:06
  from
• 31:06
  page
• 31:07
  by
• 31:07
  page
• 31:08
  from
• 31:09
  the
• 31:09
  publisher.
• 31:10
  Then
• 31:10
  I
• 31:10
  made
• 31:11
  like
• 31:11
  a
• 31:11
  big
• 31:12
  storyboard
• 31:13
  with
• 31:14
  the
• 31:15
  photos
• 31:15
  blown
• 31:16
  up.
• 31:16
  Also
• 31:17
  that
• 31:17
  when
• 31:18
  I
• 31:18
  do
• 31:18
  a
• 31:18
  reading
• 31:19
  or
• 31:20
  vendors
• 31:22
  event,
• 31:23
  I
• 31:23
  pull
• 31:23
  out
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  storyboards
• 31:25
  and
• 31:26
  they
• 31:26
  can
• 31:26
  see
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  kids
• 31:28
  walking
• 31:28
  by.
• 31:28
  They
• 31:29
  see
• 31:29
  the
• 31:29
  pictures
• 31:29
  from
• 31:30
  the
• 31:30
  books.
• 31:31
  It
• 31:31
  inspires
• 31:32
  them.
• 31:33
  And
• 31:33
  then
• 31:34
  I
• 31:34
  have
• 31:34
  a
• 31:34
  little
• 31:34
  stuffed
• 31:35
  animal
• 31:35
  of
• 31:36
  Seymour
• 31:37
  all
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  kids
• 31:37
  love.
• 31:38
  But
• 31:38
  I
• 31:38
  want
• 31:38
  to
• 31:38
  go
• 31:38
  up
• 31:38
  and
• 31:39
  hold
• 31:39
  them
• 31:39
  and
• 31:39
  hug
• 31:40
  them
• 31:40
  and
• 31:40
  all
• 31:40
  that.
• 31:41
  So
• 31:41
  there's
• 31:42
  all
• 31:42
  these
• 31:42
  different
• 31:42
  kinds
• 31:43
  of
• 31:43
  things
• 31:45
  that
• 31:45
  you
• 31:45
  can
• 31:45
  do
• 31:47
  when
• 31:47
  you
• 31:47
  have
• 31:47
  to
• 31:47
  try
• 31:48
  some
• 31:48
  things,
• 31:49
  you
• 31:49
  try
• 31:49
  them
• 31:50
  out
• 31:50
  and.
• 31:51
  Or
• 31:51
  after
• 31:51
  a
• 31:51
  while
• 31:52
  they
• 31:52
  just
• 31:52
  don't
• 31:52
  work.
• 31:53
  Right.
• 31:54
  We're
• 31:55
  about
• 31:55
  to
• 31:55
  go
• 31:56
  like
• 31:56
  with
• 31:56
  my
• 31:57
  part
• 31:58
  time
• 31:59
  assistant,
• 31:59
  we're
• 32:00
  going
• 32:00
  to
• 32:00
  do
• 32:00
  a
• 32:01
  20,
• 32:02
  25
• 32:02
  year
• 32:02
  review.
• 32:04
  What
• 32:04
  works,
• 32:04
  what
• 32:05
  doesn't
• 32:05
  work,
• 32:06
  where
• 32:06
  we
• 32:06
  go
• 32:07
  here
• 32:08
  because
• 32:09
  like
• 32:09
  I
• 32:09
  say,
• 32:09
  you
• 32:10
  got
• 32:10
  to
• 32:10
  keep
• 32:10
  trying
• 32:11
  things
• 32:11
  and
• 32:11
  not
• 32:11
  everything's
• 32:12
  going
• 32:12
  to
• 32:12
  work.
• 32:13
  Absolutely.
• 32:14
  I
• 32:14
  have
• 32:14
  to
• 32:14
  show
• 32:14
  you
• 32:14
  this,
• 32:15
  Ralph,
• 32:15
  because
• 32:15
  you
• 32:15
  got
• 32:15
  you.
• 32:16
  You
• 32:16
  triggered
• 32:16
  something.
• 32:17
  This
• 32:17
  is
• 32:17
  inside
• 32:18
  our
• 32:18
  second
• 32:19
  book,
• 32:19
  Hijinks
• 32:20
  at
• 32:20
  the
• 32:20
  Big
• 32:21
  Head
• 32:21
  Folk
• 32:22
  Music
• 32:22
  Festival.
• 32:23
  If
• 32:23
  you
• 32:23
  notice,
• 32:24
  there's
• 32:24
  an
• 32:24
  owl
• 32:25
  and
• 32:25
  there's
• 32:25
  a
• 32:26
  bobcat.
• 32:27
  Now
• 32:27
  what
• 32:28
  happened
• 32:28
  was
• 32:28
  we
• 32:29
  were
• 32:29
  going
• 32:29
  to
• 32:29
  this
• 32:30
  folk
• 32:30
  festival
• 32:31
  and
• 32:31
  we
• 32:31
  met
• 32:31
  some
• 32:32
  people
• 32:32
  who
• 32:32
  have
• 32:33
  become
• 32:33
  really
• 32:33
  good
• 32:34
  friends
• 32:34
  from
• 32:35
  Portland,
• 32:35
  Oregon.
• 32:36
  And
• 32:37
  what
• 32:37
  ended
• 32:37
  up
• 32:38
  happening
• 32:38
  is
• 32:39
  they
• 32:39
  became
• 32:40
  characters
• 32:41
  in
• 32:41
  Our
• 32:41
  second
• 32:41
  book.
• 32:42
  And
• 32:42
  I
• 32:42
  said
• 32:43
  to
• 32:43
  them,
• 32:44
  I
• 32:45
  can
• 32:45
  you
• 32:45
  pick
• 32:45
  an
• 32:46
  animal
• 32:46
  that
• 32:46
  lives
• 32:47
  in
• 32:47
  Oregon,
• 32:48
  and
• 32:50
  we'll
• 32:50
  make
• 32:50
  you
• 32:50
  that
• 32:51
  character?
• 32:51
  So
• 32:52
  Linda
• 32:52
  picked
• 32:52
  the
• 32:52
  owl,
• 32:53
  and
• 32:53
  Tom
• 32:54
  picked
• 32:54
  the
• 32:54
  bobcat.
• 32:55
  We're
• 32:55
  going
• 32:56
  to
• 32:56
  a
• 32:56
  70th
• 32:57
  party
• 32:57
  for
• 32:58
  Tom,
• 32:58
  a
• 32:58
  birthday
• 32:59
  party.
• 32:59
  And
• 32:59
  it's
• 32:59
  interesting
• 33:00
  because
• 33:00
  he
• 33:01
  doesn't
• 33:01
  know
• 33:01
  it
• 33:01
  yet,
• 33:01
  but
• 33:02
  I'm
• 33:02
  going
• 33:02
  to
• 33:02
  immortalize
• 33:03
  them
• 33:03
  through
• 33:04
  Canvas
• 33:05
  Print.
• 33:05
  That's
• 33:06
  true.
• 33:06
  I
• 33:07
  want
• 33:07
  you
• 33:07
  to
• 33:07
  think
• 33:08
  back
• 33:08
  a
• 33:08
  bit
• 33:09
  about
• 33:10
  success
• 33:11
  and
• 33:11
  when
• 33:11
  you
• 33:12
  first
• 33:12
  started
• 33:12
  your
• 33:13
  first
• 33:13
  book.
• 33:13
  And
• 33:13
  we
• 33:14
  know
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  story
• 33:14
  behind
• 33:15
  it.
• 33:15
  But
• 33:16
  tell
• 33:16
  us,
• 33:16
  how
• 33:16
  did
• 33:17
  you
• 33:17
  envision
• 33:18
  success
• 33:19
  when
• 33:19
  you
• 33:20
  first
• 33:20
  launched
• 33:20
  your
• 33:21
  book?
• 33:21
  And
• 33:21
  what
• 33:22
  does
• 33:23
  success
• 33:23
  look
• 33:24
  like
• 33:24
  to
• 33:25
  you
• 33:25
  now
• 33:26
  that
• 33:26
  you
• 33:26
  have
• 33:26
  three
• 33:27
  books?
• 33:28
  What's
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  difference?
• 33:30
  I've
• 33:30
  got
• 33:30
  to
• 33:30
  be
• 33:30
  honest
• 33:31
  with
• 33:31
  you.
• 33:31
  I
• 33:32
  don't
• 33:32
  consider
• 33:32
  myself
• 33:33
  a
• 33:33
  great
• 33:33
  business
• 33:34
  person.
• 33:35
  I
• 33:35
  do
• 33:35
  it
• 33:36
  because
• 33:36
  you
• 33:37
  have
• 33:37
  to,
• 33:37
  but
• 33:37
  it's
• 33:38
  not.
• 33:38
  If
• 33:38
  you
• 33:38
  were
• 33:38
  to
• 33:38
  ask
• 33:38
  me,
• 33:39
  what
• 33:39
  would
• 33:39
  you
• 33:39
  like
• 33:39
  to
• 33:40
  do?
• 33:41
  Run
• 33:41
  a
• 33:41
  business,
• 33:41
  which
• 33:42
  having
• 33:42
  a
• 33:43
  book
• 33:43
  is
• 33:43
  running
• 33:43
  a
• 33:43
  business.
• 33:44
  I
• 33:44
  wouldn't
• 33:44
  have
• 33:44
  picked
• 33:45
  that.
• 33:45
  But
• 33:46
  when
• 33:47
  I
• 33:47
  wrote
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  book,
• 33:48
  be
• 33:49
  honest
• 33:49
  with
• 33:49
  you,
• 33:49
  I
• 33:50
  wasn't
• 33:50
  really
• 33:50
  thinking
• 33:50
  about
• 33:51
  success.
• 33:52
  I
• 33:52
  just
• 33:52
  wanted
• 33:53
  to
• 33:53
  write
• 33:53
  the
• 33:53
  book.
• 33:54
  Then
• 33:54
  later
• 33:55
  on,
• 33:56
  it
• 33:56
  dawned
• 33:57
  on
• 33:57
  me,
• 33:58
  wow,
• 33:59
  you're
• 33:59
  spending
• 34:00
  a
• 34:00
  lot
• 34:00
  of
• 34:00
  time
• 34:00
  and
• 34:01
  money
• 34:02
  doing
• 34:02
  this.
• 34:03
  Maybe,
• 34:03
  you
• 34:04
  know,
• 34:05
  maybe
• 34:05
  you
• 34:05
  ought
• 34:06
  to
• 34:06
  think
• 34:06
  about
• 34:06
  how
• 34:07
  to
• 34:07
  promote
• 34:08
  the
• 34:08
  book.
• 34:08
  And
• 34:09
  that's
• 34:09
  when
• 34:09
  I
• 34:09
  started
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  idea
• 34:11
  of
• 34:11
  trying
• 34:12
  to
• 34:12
  get
• 34:12
  the
• 34:12
  book.
• 34:13
  I
• 34:13
  want
• 34:13
  to
• 34:13
  get
• 34:13
  the
• 34:13
  book
• 34:13
  out.
• 34:14
  Books
• 34:14
  out
• 34:14
  there.
• 34:15
  That's.
• 34:15
  To
• 34:16
  me,
• 34:16
  that's
• 34:17
  success.
• 34:17
  Getting
• 34:18
  the
• 34:18
  books
• 34:18
  out
• 34:18
  into
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  public,
• 34:20
  having
• 34:20
  kids
• 34:21
  read
• 34:21
  the
• 34:21
  books.
• 34:22
  Kids
• 34:23
  or
• 34:23
  parents
• 34:23
  telling
• 34:24
  me
• 34:24
  they
• 34:24
  love
• 34:24
  Seymour,
• 34:25
  things
• 34:26
  like
• 34:26
  that.
• 34:27
  All
• 34:27
  that
• 34:27
  to
• 34:28
  is
• 34:28
  success.
• 34:30
  Monetarily
• 34:31
  speaking,
• 34:32
  it
• 34:33
  would
• 34:33
  be
• 34:33
  successful
• 34:34
  for
• 34:34
  me
• 34:34
  to
• 34:35
  actually
• 34:35
  break
• 34:35
  even.
• 34:37
  I
• 34:37
  would
• 34:37
  consider
• 34:38
  successful.
• 34:39
  Right.
• 34:39
  I
• 34:39
  haven't
• 34:40
  yet.
• 34:41
  I've
• 34:41
  sold
• 34:41
  a
• 34:41
  lot
• 34:41
  of
• 34:41
  books.
• 34:42
  I've
• 34:42
  probably
• 34:43
  sold
• 34:44
  in
• 34:44
  terms
• 34:45
  of
• 34:45
  gross
• 34:45
  amount,
• 34:46
  probably
• 34:46
  about
• 34:47
  13,
• 34:48
  $14,000
• 34:49
  in
• 34:50
  books,
• 34:50
  maybe
• 34:51
  even
• 34:51
  15,000.
• 34:52
  But
• 34:52
  how
• 34:52
  much
• 34:52
  did
• 34:53
  it
• 34:53
  cost
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  get
• 34:55
  a
• 34:55
  $15,000
• 34:57
  gross
• 34:58
  amount?
• 34:58
  Probably
• 34:59
  at
• 34:59
  least
• 34:59
  15,000.
• 35:00
  If
• 35:00
  I
• 35:01
  sit
• 35:02
  and
• 35:03
  go
• 35:03
  over
• 35:04
  the
• 35:04
  numbers
• 35:05
  of
• 35:06
  what
• 35:06
  I'm
• 35:06
  bringing
• 35:06
  in
• 35:07
  and
• 35:08
  how
• 35:08
  much
• 35:08
  money
• 35:09
  I
• 35:09
  put
• 35:09
  out,
• 35:11
  I
• 35:11
  don't
• 35:11
  want
• 35:11
  to
• 35:11
  dwell
• 35:12
  on
• 35:12
  it
• 35:12
  because
• 35:13
  it
• 35:13
  wouldn't
• 35:14
  make
• 35:14
  me
• 35:15
  feel
• 35:15
  very
• 35:16
  successful.
• 35:17
  So
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  have
• 35:18
  to
• 35:18
  look
• 35:18
  at
• 35:18
  success
• 35:20
  other
• 35:20
  than
• 35:21
  monetary
• 35:22
  success.
• 35:23
  Absolutely.
• 35:24
  And
• 35:24
  when
• 35:24
  I
• 35:24
  look
• 35:24
  at
• 35:25
  your
• 35:25
  website
• 35:25
  and
• 35:26
  I
• 35:26
  look
• 35:26
  at
• 35:27
  you
• 35:27
  being
• 35:27
  an
• 35:28
  entertainer
• 35:28
  and
• 35:29
  supporting
• 35:29
  your
• 35:30
  books
• 35:30
  through
• 35:31
  what
• 35:31
  you
• 35:31
  love
• 35:32
  to
• 35:32
  do,
• 35:32
  you're
• 35:32
  doing
• 35:33
  two
• 35:33
  things,
• 35:33
  if
• 35:34
  I'm
• 35:34
  not
• 35:34
  mistaken,
• 35:34
  that
• 35:35
  you
• 35:35
  like
• 35:35
  to
• 35:35
  do.
• 35:35
  One
• 35:36
  is
• 35:36
  you're
• 35:37
  writing
• 35:37
  children's
• 35:38
  books
• 35:38
  because
• 35:39
  you
• 35:39
  now
• 35:39
  have
• 35:39
  three.
• 35:40
  And
• 35:40
  you
• 35:41
  also
• 35:42
  like
• 35:42
  to
• 35:42
  Play
• 35:42
  music.
• 35:43
  It
• 35:43
  seems
• 35:44
  to
• 35:44
  me
• 35:44
  that's
• 35:44
  a
• 35:44
  pretty
• 35:45
  full
• 35:45
  life
• 35:46
  in
• 35:46
  itself
• 35:47
  and
• 35:47
  can
• 35:47
  be
• 35:48
  very
• 35:48
  rewarding.
• 35:49
  Like
• 35:49
  you
• 35:49
  said,
• 35:49
  it
• 35:50
  has
• 35:50
  to
• 35:50
  go
• 35:50
  beyond
• 35:51
  financial
• 35:52
  success
• 35:53
  if
• 35:53
  you're
• 35:54
  a
• 35:54
  children's
• 35:54
  book
• 35:54
  author.
• 35:56
  To
• 35:56
  me,
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  biggest
• 35:58
  thing
• 35:58
  right
• 35:58
  now,
• 35:59
  and
• 36:00
  I
• 36:00
  would
• 36:00
  be
• 36:00
  feeling
• 36:02
  incredibly
• 36:03
  successful
• 36:04
  if
• 36:04
  this
• 36:04
  happened,
• 36:05
  if
• 36:05
  a
• 36:06
  theater
• 36:06
  company
• 36:07
  were
• 36:07
  to
• 36:08
  put
• 36:09
  on
• 36:10
  the
• 36:10
  musical.
• 36:12
  I've
• 36:12
  written
• 36:12
  three
• 36:13
  other
• 36:13
  musicals
• 36:14
  right
• 36:15
  before
• 36:16
  that
• 36:16
  aren't
• 36:16
  related
• 36:16
  to
• 36:17
  children's
• 36:17
  books.
• 36:18
  And
• 36:18
  I
• 36:18
  was.
• 36:19
  Ended
• 36:19
  up
• 36:19
  being
• 36:20
  the
• 36:20
  producer.
• 36:21
  And
• 36:21
  then
• 36:22
  one
• 36:22
  of
• 36:22
  them,
• 36:22
  I
• 36:22
  ended
• 36:23
  up
• 36:23
  having
• 36:23
  to
• 36:23
  be
• 36:23
  the
• 36:24
  director
• 36:24
  because
• 36:25
  the
• 36:25
  director
• 36:26
  had
• 36:26
  to
• 36:26
  leave.
• 36:27
  And
• 36:27
  so
• 36:27
  I
• 36:28
  ended
• 36:28
  up
• 36:28
  being.
• 36:29
  I
• 36:29
  do
• 36:29
  not
• 36:29
  want
• 36:30
  to
• 36:30
  play
• 36:30
  all
• 36:30
  on
• 36:31
  myself.
• 36:32
  Hire
• 36:32
  a
• 36:32
  hall,
• 36:32
  do
• 36:33
  the
• 36:33
  auditions,
• 36:33
  hire
• 36:34
  a
• 36:34
  director.
• 36:34
  I've
• 36:35
  been
• 36:35
  there,
• 36:35
  done
• 36:35
  that.
• 36:36
  So
• 36:36
  I
• 36:37
  really
• 36:37
  want
• 36:37
  to
• 36:38
  get
• 36:39
  a
• 36:39
  theater
• 36:40
  group
• 36:40
  of
• 36:40
  some
• 36:41
  sort
• 36:41
  to
• 36:41
  put
• 36:42
  this
• 36:42
  on.
• 36:42
  If
• 36:43
  that
• 36:43
  were
• 36:43
  to
• 36:43
  happen,
• 36:44
  I
• 36:45
  would
• 36:45
  feel
• 36:46
  extremely
• 36:47
  successful.
• 36:47
  That's
• 36:48
  my
• 36:48
  ultimate
• 36:49
  goal.
• 36:49
  And
• 36:49
  that's
• 36:50
  a
• 36:50
  fantastic
• 36:51
  ambition
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  have
• 36:52
  because
• 36:53
  you're
• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  first
• 36:54
  one
• 36:54
  I've
• 36:54
  talked
• 36:54
  to
• 36:54
  that's
• 36:55
  thought
• 36:55
  of
• 36:56
  their
• 36:56
  children's
• 36:56
  book
• 36:57
  before
• 36:57
  in
• 36:58
  terms
• 36:58
  of
• 36:58
  a
• 36:59
  theatric
• 37:00
  performance
• 37:00
  and
• 37:01
  having
• 37:01
  a
• 37:02
  script
• 37:02
  taking
• 37:02
  your
• 37:03
  written
• 37:03
  words
• 37:03
  and
• 37:04
  then
• 37:04
  taking
• 37:04
  them
• 37:05
  those
• 37:05
  words
• 37:06
  and
• 37:06
  scripting
• 37:07
  them
• 37:07
  into
• 37:08
  a
• 37:08
  play.
• 37:08
  That's
• 37:09
  pretty
• 37:09
  cool.
• 37:10
  In
• 37:10
  terms
• 37:11
  of.
• 37:12
  We
• 37:12
  were
• 37:12
  talking
• 37:12
  about
• 37:13
  writing.
• 37:14
  Talk
• 37:14
  to
• 37:14
  us
• 37:15
  about
• 37:15
  your
• 37:16
  writing
• 37:16
  process,
• 37:17
  because
• 37:18
  not
• 37:18
  only
• 37:18
  are
• 37:18
  you
• 37:19
  a
• 37:19
  children's
• 37:19
  book
• 37:20
  author,
• 37:20
  but
• 37:20
  you're
• 37:21
  also
• 37:21
  a
• 37:21
  songwriter.
• 37:23
  So
• 37:23
  talk
• 37:24
  to
• 37:24
  us
• 37:24
  about
• 37:25
  having
• 37:25
  those
• 37:26
  two
• 37:26
  elements
• 37:27
  to
• 37:27
  your
• 37:27
  writing.
• 37:28
  All
• 37:28
  of
• 37:29
  my
• 37:29
  books
• 37:29
  run,
• 37:30
  which
• 37:31
  I
• 37:31
  think
• 37:31
  I'll
• 37:32
  attribute
• 37:32
  that
• 37:33
  to
• 37:33
  my
• 37:34
  experience
• 37:34
  in
• 37:35
  songwriting.
• 37:35
  I've
• 37:36
  written
• 37:36
  probably
• 37:37
  40
• 37:37
  songs
• 37:38
  or
• 37:38
  more.
• 37:39
  I
• 37:39
  have
• 37:39
  over
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  course
• 37:40
  of
• 37:40
  time.
• 37:41
  I've
• 37:41
  been
• 37:41
  on
• 37:41
  11
• 37:42
  different
• 37:43
  CDs
• 37:44
  now.
• 37:44
  CDs.
• 37:45
  Of
• 37:45
  course,
• 37:45
  no
• 37:46
  one
• 37:46
  seems
• 37:46
  to
• 37:46
  buy
• 37:47
  them
• 37:47
  anymore,
• 37:47
  but.
• 37:48
  So
• 37:48
  my
• 37:48
  experience
• 37:49
  with
• 37:49
  writing
• 37:50
  really
• 37:51
  helps
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  lot.
• 37:52
  And
• 37:53
  like
• 37:53
  everything
• 37:54
  else,
• 37:54
  it
• 37:54
  starts
• 37:55
  with
• 37:55
  one
• 37:55
  little
• 37:56
  idea.
• 37:57
  And
• 37:58
  then
• 37:58
  you
• 37:58
  just
• 37:58
  build
• 37:58
  on
• 37:59
  it.
• 38:00
  And
• 38:00
  then
• 38:01
  build
• 38:01
  on
• 38:01
  it.
• 38:02
  Take
• 38:03
  a
• 38:03
  break,
• 38:03
  go
• 38:04
  back,
• 38:04
  build
• 38:04
  on
• 38:05
  it.
• 38:05
  What
• 38:06
  if
• 38:06
  this,
• 38:06
  what
• 38:06
  if
• 38:07
  that?
• 38:08
  So
• 38:09
  I
• 38:10
  can't
• 38:10
  say
• 38:11
  that.
• 38:11
  Oh,
• 38:12
  I
• 38:12
  wrote
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  whole
• 38:13
  thing
• 38:13
  in
• 38:13
  a
• 38:13
  week.
• 38:14
  It
• 38:15
  takes
• 38:15
  me,
• 38:16
  I
• 38:16
  don't
• 38:16
  know,
• 38:17
  probably
• 38:17
  about
• 38:18
  six
• 38:18
  months
• 38:19
  to
• 38:19
  write
• 38:19
  it.
• 38:20
  And
• 38:20
  then
• 38:20
  I
• 38:20
  show
• 38:20
  it
• 38:21
  to
• 38:21
  other
• 38:21
  people.
• 38:22
  I
• 38:22
  get
• 38:22
  feedback,
• 38:24
  and
• 38:24
  most
• 38:24
  of
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  time
• 38:25
  I
• 38:25
  tell
• 38:25
  them,
• 38:26
  at
• 38:26
  this
• 38:26
  point,
• 38:27
  I'm
• 38:27
  asking
• 38:28
  for
• 38:28
  feedback.
• 38:29
  I'm
• 38:29
  not
• 38:29
  looking
• 38:30
  for
• 38:30
  major
• 38:30
  surgery.
• 38:31
  I'm
• 38:32
  looking
• 38:32
  for
• 38:32
  minor
• 38:33
  surgery.
• 38:33
  I've
• 38:34
  experienced
• 38:34
  with
• 38:35
  playwriting
• 38:35
  before,
• 38:37
  where
• 38:38
  you
• 38:39
  send
• 38:39
  your
• 38:39
  script
• 38:40
  to
• 38:40
  friends
• 38:41
  and
• 38:41
  they
• 38:41
  come
• 38:42
  up.
• 38:42
  Some
• 38:42
  of
• 38:42
  them
• 38:42
  come
• 38:42
  up
• 38:42
  craziest
• 38:43
  ideas,
• 38:44
  like,
• 38:44
  well,
• 38:44
  you
• 38:45
  need
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  have.
• 38:45
  You
• 38:46
  need
• 38:46
  to
• 38:46
  have
• 38:46
  ghosts.
• 38:47
  But
• 38:48
  I'm
• 38:48
  curious.
• 38:48
  Ralph
• 38:49
  when
• 38:49
  you're
• 38:49
  actually
• 38:50
  doing
• 38:50
  your
• 38:50
  writing
• 38:51
  and
• 38:51
  you
• 38:51
  said
• 38:51
  you
• 38:52
  like
• 38:52
  to
• 38:52
  do
• 38:52
  it
• 38:52
  in
• 38:52
  rhyme,
• 38:53
  are
• 38:53
  you.
• 38:54
  Do
• 38:54
  you
• 38:54
  also
• 38:55
  have
• 38:55
  a
• 38:55
  melody
• 38:56
  playing
• 38:56
  in
• 38:57
  your
• 38:57
  head
• 38:57
  as
• 38:57
  you're
• 38:57
  doing
• 38:58
  this?
• 38:59
  As
• 38:59
  a
• 38:59
  musician,
• 39:00
  I'm
• 39:00
  curious
• 39:00
  for
• 39:01
  the.
• 39:01
  First
• 39:01
  song,
• 39:02
  Seymour
• 39:02
  the
• 39:03
  Seagull,
• 39:03
  definitely.
• 39:04
  I
• 39:04
  had
• 39:05
  that
• 39:05
  in
• 39:05
  mind,
• 39:06
  actually,
• 39:06
  what
• 39:07
  I
• 39:07
  did.
• 39:07
  No,
• 39:08
  is
• 39:08
  it
• 39:08
  reverse?
• 39:09
  I
• 39:09
  took
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  book,
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  beginning
• 39:11
  of
• 39:11
  the
• 39:12
  book
• 39:12
  of
• 39:12
  the
• 39:13
  first
• 39:13
  Seymour
• 39:14
  Seagull,
• 39:14
  and
• 39:14
  I
• 39:14
  turned
• 39:15
  that
• 39:15
  into
• 39:15
  Seymour
• 39:16
  Seashell.
• 39:18
  And
• 39:18
  then.
• 39:19
  So
• 39:19
  I
• 39:19
  think
• 39:20
  the
• 39:20
  writing
• 39:21
  comes
• 39:21
  first
• 39:22
  in
• 39:23
  a
• 39:23
  rhyme.
• 39:24
  Sometimes
• 39:25
  there's
• 39:25
  a
• 39:25
  melody
• 39:26
  in
• 39:26
  the
• 39:26
  background.
• 39:26
  Yeah.
• 39:27
  And
• 39:27
  then
• 39:28
  I
• 39:28
  convert
• 39:28
  it
• 39:29
  into
• 39:29
  a
• 39:29
  song.
• 39:30
  I
• 39:30
  have
• 39:31
  my
• 39:31
  guitar
• 39:31
  player
• 39:32
  who
• 39:33
  we
• 39:33
  do
• 39:34
  like
• 39:34
  a
• 39:34
  preliminary
• 39:35
  recording
• 39:36
  at
• 39:36
  his
• 39:37
  home
• 39:37
  studio
• 39:38
  before
• 39:38
  we
• 39:39
  brought
• 39:39
  it
• 39:39
  to
• 39:39
  a
• 39:40
  conventional
• 39:40
  coin
• 39:41
  studio.
• 39:42
  So
• 39:42
  we
• 39:42
  work
• 39:42
  on
• 39:43
  it.
• 39:43
  It's
• 39:44
  all
• 39:44
  chipping
• 39:45
  away.
• 39:45
  I
• 39:46
  would
• 39:46
  say
• 39:46
  you
• 39:46
  get
• 39:47
  one
• 39:47
  idea,
• 39:47
  you
• 39:48
  build
• 39:48
  on
• 39:48
  it,
• 39:49
  and
• 39:49
  then
• 39:49
  you
• 39:49
  build
• 39:49
  on
• 39:50
  it
• 39:50
  some
• 39:50
  more,
• 39:50
  and
• 39:50
  it
• 39:51
  leads
• 39:51
  to
• 39:51
  another
• 39:51
  idea
• 39:53
  into
• 39:53
  another
• 39:53
  one,
• 39:54
  and
• 39:54
  you
• 39:55
  keep
• 39:55
  going.
• 39:56
  And
• 39:56
  then,
• 39:56
  you
• 39:57
  know,
• 39:57
  you
• 39:57
  have
• 39:57
  a.
• 39:57
  That's
• 39:58
  a
• 39:58
  great
• 39:58
  skill
• 39:58
  because
• 39:59
  I
• 39:59
  can
• 39:59
  say
• 39:59
  I'm
• 40:00
  a
• 40:00
  children's
• 40:00
  book
• 40:00
  author,
• 40:01
  but
• 40:02
  I've
• 40:02
  never
• 40:02
  had.
• 40:02
  Because
• 40:02
  I'm
• 40:03
  not
• 40:03
  a
• 40:03
  songwriter,
• 40:04
  I'm
• 40:04
  not
• 40:04
  a
• 40:04
  musician.
• 40:05
  I
• 40:05
  don't
• 40:06
  have
• 40:06
  a
• 40:06
  melody
• 40:06
  ever
• 40:07
  playing
• 40:07
  in
• 40:07
  my
• 40:07
  head.
• 40:08
  So
• 40:08
  I
• 40:08
  was
• 40:08
  always
• 40:09
  curious
• 40:09
  on,
• 40:10
  as
• 40:10
  a
• 40:10
  musician,
• 40:11
  having
• 40:11
  a
• 40:12
  melody
• 40:13
  and
• 40:13
  building
• 40:13
  out
• 40:14
  a
• 40:14
  rhyme
• 40:15
  from.
• 40:15
  And
• 40:15
  words
• 40:16
  from
• 40:16
  there.
• 40:17
  Like
• 40:17
  I
• 40:18
  said,
• 40:18
  I
• 40:18
  was
• 40:18
  keeping
• 40:19
  in
• 40:19
  the
• 40:19
  tradition
• 40:19
  of
• 40:20
  Irish
• 40:20
  music
• 40:21
  and
• 40:21
  sea
• 40:21
  shanties.
• 40:22
  And
• 40:22
  I
• 40:22
  actually
• 40:22
  used,
• 40:23
  like
• 40:23
  on
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  cd,
• 40:24
  I
• 40:25
  used
• 40:25
  four
• 40:25
  different
• 40:26
  melodies
• 40:26
  of
• 40:27
  traditional
• 40:27
  Irish
• 40:28
  music.
• 40:29
  A
• 40:29
  couple
• 40:29
  of
• 40:30
  them
• 40:30
  were
• 40:30
  from
• 40:30
  Turlock
• 40:31
  O',
• 40:31
  Carolyn,
• 40:32
  I
• 40:33
  think,
• 40:33
  believe
• 40:33
  they
• 40:34
  lived
• 40:34
  in
• 40:36
  the
• 40:36
  13th
• 40:37
  century
• 40:37
  or
• 40:37
  something
• 40:37
  like
• 40:38
  that.
• 40:38
  Beautiful
• 40:39
  harpist.
• 40:40
  And
• 40:40
  I
• 40:41
  used
• 40:41
  Gentle
• 40:42
  Maiden
• 40:43
  and
• 40:43
  another
• 40:44
  song
• 40:45
  that
• 40:45
  I
• 40:46
  put
• 40:46
  into
• 40:46
  the
• 40:47
  Regime
• 40:47
  Beach
• 40:48
  Lullaby
• 40:49
  that
• 40:49
  I
• 40:49
  used
• 40:49
  to
• 40:50
  see
• 40:50
  Shani
• 40:51
  from
• 40:51
  Australia
• 40:52
  to
• 40:52
  use,
• 40:53
  based
• 40:53
  that
• 40:53
  melody
• 40:54
  on
• 40:54
  a
• 40:55
  song.
• 40:55
  We're
• 40:55
  all
• 40:56
  in
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  same
• 40:56
  boat.
• 40:57
  And
• 40:58
  so
• 40:59
  all
• 40:59
  the
• 40:59
  lyrics
• 41:00
  are
• 41:00
  mine,
• 41:00
  but
• 41:00
  four
• 41:01
  of
• 41:01
  the
• 41:02
  melodies
• 41:02
  came
• 41:03
  from
• 41:04
  other
• 41:04
  sources.
• 41:05
  The
• 41:05
  rest
• 41:05
  are
• 41:05
  all
• 41:06
  melodies
• 41:06
  that
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  created.
• 41:07
  And
• 41:07
  it's
• 41:08
  a
• 41:08
  give
• 41:08
  and
• 41:08
  take.
• 41:09
  I
• 41:09
  can't
• 41:09
  say
• 41:11
  I
• 41:12
  have
• 41:12
  an
• 41:12
  ultimate
• 41:13
  system.
• 41:14
  Things
• 41:14
  just
• 41:15
  sort
• 41:15
  of
• 41:16
  come
• 41:16
  to
• 41:16
  me.
• 41:17
  There
• 41:17
  are
• 41:18
  times
• 41:18
  I
• 41:18
  get
• 41:18
  ideas
• 41:19
  and
• 41:19
  I.
• 41:20
  All
• 41:20
  the
• 41:20
  time,
• 41:20
  and
• 41:21
  they're
• 41:21
  coming
• 41:21
  in.
• 41:22
  And
• 41:22
  a
• 41:22
  lot
• 41:22
  of
• 41:22
  times
• 41:22
  I
• 41:23
  say,
• 41:23
  please,
• 41:23
  no,
• 41:24
  not
• 41:24
  now.
• 41:25
  No,
• 41:25
  please.
• 41:26
  And
• 41:26
  then
• 41:26
  they
• 41:27
  won't
• 41:27
  leave
• 41:27
  me
• 41:27
  alone.
• 41:28
  Oh,
• 41:29
  no,
• 41:29
  I
• 41:29
  don't
• 41:29
  want
• 41:30
  to
• 41:30
  do
• 41:30
  that.
• 41:30
  I
• 41:30
  don't
• 41:30
  want
• 41:31
  to
• 41:31
  write
• 41:31
  that.
• 41:31
  I
• 41:31
  want
• 41:32
  to.
• 41:32
  Still
• 41:32
  there.
• 41:32
  Okay,
• 41:33
  I'll
• 41:33
  write
• 41:33
  it.
• 41:33
  I'll
• 41:34
  start
• 41:34
  it.
• 41:34
  Okay.
• 41:35
  And
• 41:36
  then
• 41:36
  I
• 41:36
  start.
• 41:37
  It's
• 41:37
  all
• 41:37
  say,
• 41:37
  I'm
• 41:38
  going
• 41:38
  to
• 41:38
  write
• 41:38
  a
• 41:38
  book.
• 41:38
  This
• 41:38
  year
• 41:40
  doesn't
• 41:41
  happen.
• 41:42
  I
• 41:42
  want
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  pick
• 41:42
  up
• 41:43
  on
• 41:43
  that.
• 41:43
  So
• 41:43
  advice
• 41:44
  for
• 41:45
  aspiring
• 41:46
  authors.
• 41:47
  What
• 41:47
  advice
• 41:48
  would
• 41:48
  you
• 41:48
  give
• 41:48
  an
• 41:48
  aspiring
• 41:49
  author
• 41:49
  who
• 41:50
  is
• 41:50
  trying
• 41:50
  to
• 41:50
  get
• 41:50
  started
• 41:52
  and
• 41:52
  thank
• 41:52
  you
• 41:53
  because
• 41:53
  you're
• 41:53
  the
• 41:53
  first
• 41:54
  musician
• 41:55
  I've
• 41:55
  talked
• 41:55
  to.
• 41:56
  I'm
• 41:56
  certainly
• 41:56
  looking
• 41:57
  for
• 41:57
  what
• 41:58
  your
• 41:58
  thoughts
• 41:58
  on
• 41:59
  this.
• 42:00
  An
• 42:00
  aspiring
• 42:01
  writer.
• 42:01
  Okay.
• 42:01
  First
• 42:02
  of
• 42:02
  all,
• 42:03
  believe
• 42:03
  in
• 42:03
  yourself.
• 42:05
  You
• 42:05
  have
• 42:05
  talent.
• 42:07
  Not
• 42:07
  everybody
• 42:08
  writes
• 42:08
  a
• 42:09
  book.
• 42:10
  Stick
• 42:10
  with
• 42:10
  it.
• 42:11
  Don't
• 42:11
  give
• 42:11
  up.
• 42:13
  Work
• 42:13
  on
• 42:13
  it
• 42:13
  on
• 42:13
  a
• 42:14
  daily
• 42:14
  basis.
• 42:14
  Look
• 42:15
  at
• 42:16
  small
• 42:16
  accomplishments,
• 42:18
  sometimes
• 42:19
  with
• 42:19
  trusted
• 42:20
  friends.
• 42:21
  Share
• 42:22
  your
• 42:22
  work,
• 42:23
  but
• 42:24
  don't
• 42:24
  get
• 42:24
  discouraged.
• 42:26
  It's
• 42:26
  very
• 42:27
  easy
• 42:27
  to
• 42:28
  get
• 42:28
  discouraged.
• 42:29
  Okay.
• 42:30
  And
• 42:31
  then
• 42:31
  keep
• 42:31
  looking
• 42:32
  at
• 42:32
  as
• 42:33
  you
• 42:33
  develop,
• 42:33
  whether
• 42:34
  you
• 42:34
  want
• 42:34
  to
• 42:34
  rhyme
• 42:35
  the
• 42:36
  book
• 42:36
  or
• 42:36
  not.
• 42:38
  What's
• 42:38
  the
• 42:38
  point
• 42:38
  of
• 42:39
  your
• 42:39
  writing?
• 42:40
  What
• 42:40
  are
• 42:40
  children
• 42:41
  going
• 42:41
  to
• 42:41
  get
• 42:42
  out
• 42:42
  of
• 42:42
  this?
• 42:43
  Why
• 42:43
  is
• 42:43
  it
• 42:43
  valuable?
• 42:45
  What
• 42:45
  type
• 42:45
  of
• 42:46
  illustrations
• 42:46
  are
• 42:47
  you
• 42:47
  looking
• 42:47
  for
• 42:48
  to
• 42:48
  match
• 42:48
  your
• 42:48
  story
• 42:49
  with
• 42:49
  style?
• 42:50
  Because
• 42:50
  all
• 42:50
  different
• 42:51
  kinds
• 42:51
  of
• 42:51
  illustration
• 42:52
  styles
• 42:53
  what
• 42:53
  best
• 42:53
  matches
• 42:55
  your
• 42:56
  book
• 42:57
  content.
• 42:58
  And
• 42:58
  then
• 42:58
  you
• 42:59
  could
• 42:59
  go
• 43:00
  looking
• 43:00
  like
• 43:00
  for
• 43:01
  different
• 43:01
  art
• 43:01
  associations.
• 43:02
  If
• 43:02
  they
• 43:02
  have
• 43:03
  any
• 43:03
  recommendations
• 43:04
  for
• 43:05
  artists,
• 43:06
  try
• 43:07
  a
• 43:07
  couple
• 43:07
  look
• 43:07
  at
• 43:08
  what
• 43:08
  books
• 43:08
  they've
• 43:09
  done
• 43:09
  before
• 43:10
  trying
• 43:11
  to
• 43:11
  figure
• 43:11
  out
• 43:11
  what
• 43:12
  kind
• 43:12
  of
• 43:12
  budget
• 43:13
  you're
• 43:13
  willing
• 43:13
  to
• 43:14
  spend.
• 43:16
  You
• 43:16
  could
• 43:16
  seek
• 43:17
  out
• 43:18
  children's
• 43:20
  publishing
• 43:20
  companies
• 43:21
  like
• 43:21
  Leaning
• 43:22
  Rock
• 43:23
  Press
• 43:24
  is
• 43:24
  a
• 43:24
  publishing
• 43:25
  company
• 43:25
  I
• 43:25
  work
• 43:26
  with.
• 43:27
  She
• 43:27
  looks
• 43:27
  for
• 43:28
  additional
• 43:29
  books.
• 43:30
  So
• 43:31
  does
• 43:31
  not
• 43:31
  harm
• 43:31
  you
• 43:32
  in
• 43:32
  any
• 43:32
  ways
• 43:32
  to
• 43:33
  approach.
• 43:34
  I
• 43:34
  think
• 43:35
  approach
• 43:35
  children's
• 43:36
  book
• 43:36
  authors
• 43:37
  don't
• 43:38
  spend
• 43:39
  a
• 43:39
  lot
• 43:39
  of
• 43:39
  money
• 43:40
  on
• 43:40
  an
• 43:41
  agent
• 43:42
  to
• 43:42
  try
• 43:42
  to
• 43:43
  shuffle
• 43:43
  your
• 43:43
  book.
• 43:44
  Do
• 43:45
  it
• 43:45
  yourself
• 43:45
  because
• 43:46
  they'll
• 43:46
  charge
• 43:47
  you
• 43:47
  thousands
• 43:48
  of
• 43:48
  dollars
• 43:49
  and
• 43:51
  I
• 43:51
  believe
• 43:51
  it'll
• 43:52
  come
• 43:52
  from
• 43:52
  God.
• 43:52
  You
• 43:53
  got
• 43:53
  to
• 43:53
  do
• 43:53
  it
• 43:53
  yourself.
• 43:54
  Right.
• 43:56
  And
• 43:56
  that's
• 43:56
  what
• 43:56
  we
• 43:56
  talked
• 43:57
  about
• 43:57
  earlier.
• 43:57
  Whether
• 43:58
  you're
• 43:58
  independent,
• 43:59
  hybrid,
• 44:00
  self
• 44:00
  or
• 44:01
  traditional,
• 44:02
  there's
• 44:03
  still
• 44:03
  all
• 44:03
  this
• 44:03
  pressure
• 44:04
  on
• 44:04
  you
• 44:05
  as
• 44:05
  the
• 44:07
  children's
• 44:07
  book
• 44:07
  author
• 44:08
  to
• 44:08
  get
• 44:08
  out
• 44:09
  there
• 44:09
  and
• 44:09
  make
• 44:09
  it
• 44:09
  happen.
• 44:11
  And
• 44:12
  I
• 44:12
  love
• 44:12
  how
• 44:12
  you
• 44:13
  said
• 44:13
  that.
• 44:13
  Thinking
• 44:14
  all
• 44:14
  the
• 44:14
  way
• 44:14
  through
• 44:15
  on
• 44:15
  how
• 44:16
  you're
• 44:16
  going
• 44:16
  to
• 44:16
  support
• 44:16
  your
• 44:17
  book
• 44:18
  and.
• 44:18
  Realize
• 44:19
  too
• 44:20
  you're
• 44:20
  doing
• 44:20
  a
• 44:20
  great
• 44:21
  thing.
• 44:21
  This
• 44:21
  is
• 44:22
  like
• 44:22
  your
• 44:22
  legacy.
• 44:23
  Yes.
• 44:23
  Your
• 44:24
  books
• 44:24
  are
• 44:25
  going
• 44:25
  to
• 44:25
  be
• 44:25
  around
• 44:27
  after
• 44:27
  you're
• 44:28
  gone.
• 44:28
  Absolutely.
• 44:29
  And
• 44:29
  that
• 44:30
  the
• 44:30
  beautiful
• 44:30
  thing
• 44:31
  I
• 44:31
  was
• 44:31
  talking
• 44:31
  about,
• 44:32
  I've
• 44:32
  co
• 44:33
  authored
• 44:33
  with
• 44:33
  with
• 44:34
  two
• 44:34
  of
• 44:34
  my
• 44:34
  granddaughters
• 44:35
  so
• 44:35
  far
• 44:36
  in
• 44:36
  our
• 44:36
  print
• 44:36
  books.
• 44:37
  And
• 44:37
  then
• 44:37
  we've
• 44:37
  co
• 44:38
  authored
• 44:38
  with
• 44:39
  all
• 44:39
  of
• 44:39
  our
• 44:39
  grandchildren
• 44:40
  in
• 44:41
  all
• 44:41
  of
• 44:41
  our
• 44:41
  stories.
• 44:42
  We've
• 44:42
  recorded
• 44:43
  11
• 44:44
  of
• 44:44
  the
• 44:44
  stories
• 44:45
  in
• 44:45
  their
• 44:46
  voice.
• 44:47
  Wow.
• 44:47
  Yeah.
• 44:48
  So
• 44:48
  that's
• 44:48
  fun.
• 44:49
  That's
• 44:49
  a
• 44:49
  great
• 44:50
  thing.
• 44:51
  Encouragement
• 44:51
  for
• 44:52
  readers.
• 44:53
  Talk,
• 44:53
  talk
• 44:54
  to
• 44:55
  people
• 44:55
  about
• 44:55
  why
• 44:56
  should
• 44:57
  they
• 44:57
  purchase
• 44:58
  and
• 44:58
  read
• 44:58
  your
• 44:58
  books.
• 45:00
  I
• 45:00
  think
• 45:00
  they're
• 45:01
  very
• 45:01
  well
• 45:01
  done.
• 45:02
  I'm
• 45:02
  not
• 45:02
  trying
• 45:02
  to
• 45:03
  pat
• 45:03
  myself
• 45:03
  on
• 45:03
  the
• 45:04
  back
• 45:04
  But
• 45:04
  I've
• 45:05
  spent
• 45:05
  a
• 45:06
  lot
• 45:06
  of
• 45:06
  time
• 45:07
  working
• 45:08
  on
• 45:08
  writing
• 45:09
  the
• 45:09
  content,
• 45:10
  the
• 45:10
  fact
• 45:11
  that
• 45:11
  they
• 45:11
  rhyme.
• 45:12
  I
• 45:13
  think
• 45:13
  the
• 45:13
  message
• 45:13
  in
• 45:14
  the
• 45:14
  book.
• 45:15
  A
• 45:15
  lot
• 45:15
  of
• 45:16
  the
• 45:16
  books
• 45:16
  are
• 45:16
  fun.
• 45:17
  They're
• 45:18
  fun
• 45:18
  first.
• 45:19
  There's
• 45:19
  like
• 45:20
  seagull
• 45:20
  games
• 45:21
  that
• 45:21
  they're
• 45:22
  doing.
• 45:22
  They're
• 45:22
  racing
• 45:23
  their
• 45:23
  same
• 45:24
  castle.
• 45:25
  The
• 45:25
  animals
• 45:26
  are
• 45:26
  putting
• 45:26
  on
• 45:26
  us,
• 45:27
  seeing
• 45:28
  off
• 45:28
  of
• 45:28
  other
• 45:28
  people's
• 45:29
  plates
• 45:30
  and
• 45:30
  stuff.
• 45:31
  So
• 45:31
  there's
• 45:31
  fun
• 45:31
  first
• 45:32
  and
• 45:32
  then
• 45:32
  there's
• 45:33
  a
• 45:33
  message
• 45:34
  to
• 45:34
  try
• 45:35
  to
• 45:35
  fit
• 45:36
  in
• 45:36
  the
• 45:36
  stories
• 45:37
  that
• 45:37
  I
• 45:38
  think
• 45:38
  are
• 45:38
  worthwhile
• 45:39
  messages
• 45:40
  about
• 45:41
  kindness
• 45:42
  in
• 45:42
  various
• 45:43
  aspects.
• 45:44
  And
• 45:44
  the
• 45:44
  illustrations
• 45:45
  are
• 45:46
  good.
• 45:46
  They're
• 45:46
  great
• 45:47
  artists.
• 45:48
  And
• 45:48
  then
• 45:49
  the
• 45:49
  photography
• 45:50
  back.
• 45:51
  I
• 45:51
  love
• 45:52
  how
• 45:52
  you've
• 45:52
  added
• 45:53
  value
• 45:54
  added
• 45:54
  to
• 45:54
  your
• 45:55
  books.
• 45:55
  Again,
• 45:57
  it's
• 45:57
  just
• 45:57
  that
• 45:57
  encouragement
• 45:58
  for
• 45:58
  aspiring
• 45:59
  readers
• 46:00
  to
• 46:00
  know
• 46:01
  that
• 46:02
  it's
• 46:02
  more
• 46:03
  than
• 46:03
  just
• 46:03
  a
• 46:03
  children's
• 46:04
  story.
• 46:05
  It's.
• 46:05
  You
• 46:06
  actually
• 46:06
  put
• 46:06
  the
• 46:07
  story
• 46:07
  behind
• 46:07
  the
• 46:08
  story
• 46:08
  in
• 46:09
  your
• 46:09
  children's
• 46:09
  book.
• 46:11
  Yeah.
• 46:11
  And
• 46:11
  I
• 46:12
  would
• 46:12
  say
• 46:12
  to
• 46:12
  other.
• 46:13
  Talking
• 46:13
  about.
• 46:14
  You
• 46:14
  were
• 46:14
  talking
• 46:14
  about
• 46:14
  other
• 46:15
  writers.
• 46:16
  Think
• 46:16
  about
• 46:16
  that.
• 46:17
  What
• 46:17
  else
• 46:17
  you
• 46:17
  can
• 46:18
  do
• 46:19
  that
• 46:19
  would
• 46:19
  help
• 46:19
  to
• 46:20
  promote
• 46:20
  your
• 46:20
  book?
• 46:21
  That's
• 46:22
  something
• 46:23
  that
• 46:23
  you
• 46:23
  can
• 46:23
  focus
• 46:23
  on
• 46:24
  too.
• 46:24
  Try
• 46:25
  to
• 46:25
  get
• 46:25
  that
• 46:25
  going.
• 46:26
  Actually,
• 46:27
  before
• 46:27
  your
• 46:27
  book
• 46:27
  comes
• 46:28
  out,
• 46:28
  you're
• 46:29
  going
• 46:29
  to
• 46:29
  do
• 46:29
  a
• 46:29
  book
• 46:29
  release.
• 46:31
  First
• 46:31
  thing
• 46:32
  you
• 46:33
  know
• 46:33
  how
• 46:33
  to
• 46:33
  get.
• 46:33
  You
• 46:33
  want
• 46:34
  to
• 46:34
  get
• 46:34
  the
• 46:34
  local
• 46:34
  paper
• 46:35
  in
• 46:35
  on
• 46:35
  that.
• 46:35
  You
• 46:36
  want
• 46:36
  to
• 46:36
  get
• 46:36
  Facebook
• 46:36
  and
• 46:37
  Instagram
• 46:38
  and
• 46:38
  making
• 46:38
  a
• 46:39
  lot
• 46:39
  of
• 46:39
  contacts
• 46:40
  on
• 46:40
  Facebook
• 46:41
  and
• 46:42
  do
• 46:42
  all
• 46:42
  that
• 46:43
  kind
• 46:43
  of
• 46:43
  preliminary
• 46:44
  groundwork.
• 46:45
  And
• 46:45
  then
• 46:45
  when
• 46:46
  your
• 46:46
  book
• 46:46
  is
• 46:46
  done
• 46:47
  and
• 46:47
  you
• 46:47
  have
• 46:48
  a
• 46:48
  book
• 46:48
  release,
• 46:49
  it
• 46:49
  isn't,
• 46:49
  okay,
• 46:50
  I
• 46:50
  did
• 46:50
  the
• 46:51
  book.
• 46:51
  I
• 46:51
  did
• 46:51
  the
• 46:51
  book
• 46:51
  release
• 46:52
  and
• 46:52
  that's
• 46:52
  it.
• 46:53
  No,
• 46:54
  it's
• 46:54
  a
• 46:54
  starting
• 46:55
  point.
• 46:55
  Right.
• 46:55
  It's
• 46:56
  just
• 46:56
  the
• 46:56
  beginning.
• 46:57
  Final
• 46:57
  thoughts.
• 46:58
  Is
• 46:58
  there
• 46:58
  something,
• 46:59
  Ralph,
• 47:00
  I.
• 47:00
  You
• 47:00
  think
• 47:01
  you're
• 47:01
  like,
• 47:02
  you've
• 47:02
  shared
• 47:02
  so
• 47:03
  much.
• 47:04
  So
• 47:04
  is
• 47:04
  there
• 47:04
  any
• 47:04
  final
• 47:05
  thoughts
• 47:05
  you
• 47:05
  thought,
• 47:06
  oh,
• 47:06
  maybe
• 47:06
  I
• 47:06
  wish
• 47:07
  Rick
• 47:07
  would
• 47:07
  ask
• 47:07
  me
• 47:08
  that
• 47:08
  question.
• 47:09
  Either
• 47:09
  for
• 47:09
  readers
• 47:10
  or
• 47:10
  for
• 47:11
  aspiring
• 47:11
  authors.
• 47:13
  That's
• 47:13
  a
• 47:13
  good
• 47:14
  question.
• 47:14
  Maybe
• 47:15
  the
• 47:15
  question
• 47:15
  is,
• 47:15
  what
• 47:15
  keeps
• 47:16
  me
• 47:16
  going?
• 47:17
  Oh,
• 47:17
  terrific.
• 47:19
  Because
• 47:20
  like
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  say,
• 47:21
  the
• 47:21
  demons
• 47:22
  of
• 47:22
  self
• 47:22
  doubt
• 47:23
  are
• 47:23
  lurking
• 47:24
  as
• 47:25
  soon
• 47:25
  as
• 47:25
  you
• 47:25
  wake
• 47:25
  up
• 47:26
  in
• 47:26
  the
• 47:26
  morning.
• 47:27
  Why
• 47:27
  are
• 47:27
  you
• 47:27
  doing
• 47:28
  this?
• 47:28
  Why?
• 47:29
  Blah,
• 47:29
  blah,
• 47:29
  blah.
• 47:30
  All
• 47:30
  the
• 47:30
  negative
• 47:30
  stuff
• 47:31
  here,
• 47:32
  making
• 47:32
  a
• 47:32
  whole
• 47:32
  lot
• 47:33
  of
• 47:33
  money,
• 47:33
  blah,
• 47:33
  blah,
• 47:34
  blah,
• 47:34
  blah,
• 47:34
  blah.
• 47:35
  But
• 47:35
  then
• 47:35
  I
• 47:35
  say,
• 47:35
  okay,
• 47:36
  people
• 47:37
  like,
• 47:37
  like
• 47:37
  my
• 47:38
  books.
• 47:38
  Kids
• 47:39
  love
• 47:39
  it.
• 47:39
  They
• 47:39
  go,
• 47:40
  they
• 47:40
  want
• 47:40
  to
• 47:40
  go
• 47:40
  to
• 47:41
  Revere
• 47:41
  beach,
• 47:42
  see
• 47:42
  Seymour,
• 47:43
  you
• 47:44
  know,
• 47:44
  I
• 47:44
  hear
• 47:45
  this
• 47:45
  stuff
• 47:45
  and
• 47:46
  grandparents
• 47:47
  saying,
• 47:47
  ah,
• 47:48
  that
• 47:48
  my
• 47:48
  granddaughter
• 47:49
  loves
• 47:49
  the
• 47:50
  book.
• 47:50
  They
• 47:50
  love,
• 47:50
  you
• 47:51
  know,
• 47:51
  this
• 47:51
  I
• 47:51
  want
• 47:52
  the
• 47:52
  next
• 47:52
  book
• 47:52
  and
• 47:53
  like
• 47:53
  the
• 47:53
  songs.
• 47:54
  So
• 47:55
  that's
• 47:55
  what
• 47:55
  keeps
• 47:56
  me
• 47:56
  going.
• 47:57
  Any
• 47:58
  little
• 47:58
  element
• 47:59
  of
• 47:59
  what
• 48:00
  I
• 48:00
  consider
• 48:00
  success
• 48:02
  will
• 48:02
  keep
• 48:02
  me
• 48:02
  going.
• 48:03
  The
• 48:03
  grandiose.
• 48:04
  Oh,
• 48:05
  I'm
• 48:05
  going
• 48:05
  to
• 48:05
  be
• 48:05
  a
• 48:06
  famous
• 48:06
  writer
• 48:07
  and,
• 48:07
  well,
• 48:07
  I'm
• 48:08
  going
• 48:08
  to
• 48:08
  make
• 48:08
  millions
• 48:09
  of
• 48:09
  dollars.
• 48:09
  Forget.
• 48:10
  I
• 48:10
  don't
• 48:11
  even
• 48:11
  consider
• 48:12
  that
• 48:13
  to
• 48:13
  be
• 48:14
  in
• 48:14
  the
• 48:14
  picture
• 48:15
  at
• 48:15
  all.
• 48:16
  I
• 48:16
  really
• 48:17
  appreciate
• 48:17
  you
• 48:18
  sharing
• 48:18
  that
• 48:18
  because
• 48:19
  we
• 48:19
  talked
• 48:19
  about
• 48:20
  a
• 48:20
  lot
• 48:20
  of
• 48:20
  people.
• 48:21
  It's
• 48:21
  the
• 48:21
  passion
• 48:22
  of
• 48:22
  having
• 48:22
  a
• 48:22
  finished
• 48:23
  Bubbless
• 48:23
  book
• 48:23
  in
• 48:24
  their
• 48:24
  hand
• 48:24
  and
• 48:24
  touching
• 48:25
  the
• 48:25
  pages.
• 48:26
  But
• 48:26
  then
• 48:26
  you've
• 48:27
  got
• 48:27
  to
• 48:27
  ask
• 48:27
  yourself,
• 48:28
  what
• 48:29
  now?
• 48:29
  What's
• 48:30
  going
• 48:30
  to
• 48:30
  keep
• 48:30
  me
• 48:30
  going
• 48:31
  now
• 48:32
  that
• 48:32
  I've
• 48:32
  got
• 48:32
  my
• 48:33
  published
• 48:33
  book
• 48:34
  in
• 48:34
  my
• 48:34
  hand?
• 48:35
  You
• 48:35
  need
• 48:35
  to
• 48:35
  think
• 48:36
  of
• 48:36
  that
• 48:37
  ahead
• 48:37
  of
• 48:37
  time.
• 48:38
  Yes.
• 48:39
  You
• 48:39
  need
• 48:39
  to
• 48:39
  get
• 48:40
  something
• 48:40
  going.
• 48:41
  Okay,
• 48:42
  my,
• 48:42
  my
• 48:43
  book's
• 48:43
  coming
• 48:43
  out
• 48:44
  in
• 48:44
  April.
• 48:45
  What
• 48:45
  am
• 48:45
  I
• 48:46
  doing
• 48:46
  January
• 48:47
  through
• 48:47
  April
• 48:48
  to
• 48:49
  get
• 48:49
  ready
• 48:49
  for
• 48:49
  it?
• 48:50
  And
• 48:50
  what's
• 48:50
  going
• 48:50
  to
• 48:51
  happen
• 48:51
  after
• 48:51
  that?
• 48:53
  Great
• 48:53
  point.
• 48:54
  Thank
• 48:54
  you.
• 48:54
  Ralph,
• 48:55
  thank
• 48:55
  you
• 48:55
  so
• 48:56
  much
• 48:56
  for
• 48:56
  being
• 48:56
  a
• 48:56
  guest
• 48:57
  on
• 48:57
  the
• 48:57
  Adventures
• 48:57
  in
• 48:57
  the
• 48:58
  Heart
• 48:58
  of
• 48:58
  Children's
• 48:58
  Book
• 48:59
  Authors
• 48:59
  Podcast.
• 49:00
  Your
• 49:00
  generosity
• 49:01
  of
• 49:01
  time
• 49:02
  and
• 49:02
  insight
• 49:02
  will
• 49:04
  significantly
• 49:05
  benefit
• 49:05
  aspiring
• 49:06
  authors
• 49:07
  and
• 49:07
  readers,
• 49:08
  and
• 49:08
  we
• 49:08
  promise
• 49:09
  to
• 49:09
  provide
• 49:09
  our
• 49:10
  audience
• 49:10
  with
• 49:10
  links
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  Ralph's
• 49:12
  social
• 49:12
  media
• 49:13
  and
• 49:13
  his
• 49:13
  book
• 49:14
  and
• 49:14
  his
• 49:14
  website
• 49:15
  is
• 49:15
  awesome.
• 49:15
  Folks,
• 49:16
  you've
• 49:16
  got
• 49:16
  to
• 49:16
  go
• 49:16
  there
• 49:17
  and
• 49:17
  there's
• 49:18
  value
• 49:18
  added
• 49:19
  there.
• 49:20
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• 49:20
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• 49:20
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• 49:20
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• 49:28
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• 49:29
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• 49:29
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• 49:30
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• 49:30
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• 49:30
  enjoys
• 49:31
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• 49:31
  about
• 49:32
  Ralph
• 49:33
  and
• 49:33
  his
• 49:33
  children's
• 49:34
  book
• 49:34
  series,
• 49:35
  Seymour
• 49:35
  the
• 49:36
  Seagull.
• 49:37
  Thank
• 49:37
  you,
• 49:37
  Ralph.
• 49:38
  Thank
• 49:38
  you,
• 49:39
  Rick.