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Fast Laps with the Boys - F1 2024 - Imola Preview · Banter with the Boys

• 0:00
  At least up. Let's go! It's time for Banner with the boys.
• 0:14
  Yo yo yo, welcome back to Banner with the boys fast laps. We're coming at you with video of all four of us.
• 0:21
  It's insane. We're all on the same screen. Look at us. Look at our pretty faces.
• 0:25
  But let's just get right into it right next to me our co-host for fast laps Joe Joe what's going on?
• 0:30
  Happy to be here. Happy to be on video. Happy to be here after that race specifically. We have a lot of talk about.
• 0:36
  Yes we do. Yes we do. Moving right along to Cole right next to him. Cole, typical Tuesday buddy. How's your week been?
• 0:44
  Typical Tuesday. I mean this is like the first time in a while I think we haven't had horrible weather.
• 0:50
  Facts. Yeah it's actually nice out. I'm not complaining. It's beautiful out. Sunshine and beautiful day. No place I'd rather be.
• 0:57
  Absolutely. And then of course last but not least the host of our NFL show Tyler. What's going on?
• 1:04
  Doing good brother. Back from vacation. Much needed. Ready to rip another pod brother.
• 1:10
  Yeah you definitely got some sun on vacation. A little bit. I got a whole new forehead.
• 1:14
  Got a whole new forehead. So let's just dive right into Miami but before we even get started on that we obviously had another sprint.
• 1:23
  Second sprint of the year. Do we still have the same feelings about the sprints after the second one?
• 1:32
  Obviously we saw some guys finish a little higher than we're used to seeing in the Grand Prix's right now.
• 1:38
  But what are your thoughts on the Miami sprint? I think we kind of touched on it last time but it is an opportunity for these lower end teams to really get points.
• 1:49
  And we saw that. It came to fruition this last sprint. So I think it's awesome if you're a lower team trying to get some points.
• 1:56
  Obviously for the top teams it's not a big change up because it's not a lot of points. For these lower end teams like Racing Bowl it's a huge weekend.
• 2:03
  100%. I mean Haas was in there in points and then I think Pierre even got some points in the sprint as well. And then obviously, no he did not.
• 2:11
  No Pierre finished 9th so he was 1 outside of the points. Yuki, Nico and Danny Rick were the 3 that you know.
• 2:19
  I'm not going to say Yuki is surprising at this point. He's had a pretty good year just even in races this year. But that was the Danny Rick of 6-7 years ago.
• 2:28
  No doubt. For me personally it's just another waste of time honestly. Other than for the teams.
• 2:35
  I think because there wasn't a sprint in Miami last year right? That's what you guys are saying?
• 2:41
  So was this just more of give the US fans another little taste to try to continue to grow the sport here you think?
• 2:52
  Is that why they chose to do it in Miami or do they just keep rotating stuff out and it just is what it is?
• 2:57
  Or do you think they're smarter about it than that?
• 2:59
  I think that's actually a good point. I think it might be for the fans back here. It's also weird. Usually sprints are on shorter tracks.
• 3:05
  No, not anymore. They used to be that way but even last year it's like.
• 3:11
  What was the longest track last year that was on?
• 3:13
  It was like Singapore or Japan. I want to say Singapore had a sprint last year and that's not a fast track.
• 3:17
  True, true.
• 3:18
  But even Vegas. Vegas isn't a fast track and they had a sprint last year. Vegas is like what? 140, 150 lap times if I'm not mistaken?
• 3:25
  It's a pretty long one but yeah I could go without it. Was it nice seeing Danny Rick up there?
• 3:31
  Yeah but it would have been a heck of a lot cooler to see him on Sunday there.
• 3:34
  Well no doubt.
• 3:35
  Still I mean all in all with his racing the whole race was amazing out of Danny Rick.
• 3:40
  Yeah he was fending off Sians and that Ferrari. He was actually battling him and holding him off throwing the elbows a bit.
• 3:45
  That's what I was saying. It's like that Danny Rick of old. He wasn't just letting them by having the slower car knowing he doesn't stand a chance.
• 3:51
  He held him off multiple times.
• 3:53
  And for him being in America I mean he's probably the favorite. I mean I know Sargent's from America but he's probably the favorite driver out of it for American fans.
• 4:00
  Anybody I know around here is a big Danny Rick fan. Big time.
• 4:04
  Yeah I would have to agree as well. I think what's nice about this sprint was such an outlier from other sprints because the race and the sprint were so different in terms of the result.
• 4:12
  So if we see more of that from sprints I think I'd be okay with it. I don't want to see just a repeat of the race from the sprint perspective each weekend.
• 4:20
  And so far we haven't because I thought the China sprint too was a little bit different than the main.
• 4:25
  Yeah Lewis grabbed the LMP too.
• 4:27
  That's right.
• 4:29
  I guess my take on the sprints is I'm not opposed to the whole format of it. Give them more points.
• 4:36
  Make it actually worth it right. Because even you grab an eighth you're getting one point.
• 4:42
  Right. Even first it's eight points. Like that's not a huge incentive. Even if you go up to like 15, 12, 9 and then kind of tailor it down like they do similar to the Grand Prix's.
• 4:51
  Like you get there's so much more motivation. Like yeah eighths might only be getting one point but tenths also only gets one point in the Grand Prix.
• 4:58
  At least a third is getting you know 12 points which is not too far up from that Grand Prix system.
• 5:04
  Sure. Do you think they should increase the amount of points that are given out because.
• 5:08
  I like how it's eight.
• 5:09
  Okay because it's interesting if you look at it you just mentioned Gasly but Sargent would have got points too if it was top ten in this sprint.
• 5:15
  Yeah right and you're saying they should not expand it to ten keep it at eight but maybe just give them more.
• 5:20
  Yeah exactly I like it at eight just because I like the idea of rewarding less people but I think there should be more of a reward.
• 5:28
  Sure.
• 5:29
  Again yeah I guess it kind of contradicts not you but like the whole point of you know we see a lot of the same people at the top eight anyway and I feel like if it's too much points on the sprint.
• 5:42
  First half is kind of running away even more with it this year. It's you know I think it's a bigger gap.
• 5:47
  I kind of have an opposite look at it. I don't think I want more points. I think I want them to be spread out more because then we're going to see more fighting near that middle pack.
• 5:56
  Right. So even even in the race I'd like to see points down to maybe 12 or 13 because it'll push people even that that much further down the track a little bit more.
• 6:06
  We'll see fighting throughout a bit more as well and we'll take points from maybe I don't know if we're going to take points away but I mean we can skin out front a little bit I mean 25 and then 18 points is a pretty high gap.
• 6:17
  We can probably slim that down a little.
• 6:19
  But we only say that because of the dominance around Verstappen and I think that's why it's such like the gap is such a big thing. I think I don't like extending it past 10 at all because I mean it's kind of an award in itself just to reward if you will to win a point in F1.
• 6:34
  That's like I mean obviously a win is huge but just getting 10 for a lot of these cars is huge. So I like top 10.
• 6:40
  Yeah I don't I don't hate that Joe. I wouldn't mind seeing like the Grand Prix go to 12 or 13 and then like the Sprint go to 10. I wouldn't mind that at all and I kind of like what you're saying there with like getting you because you get more of that battle because yeah you'll see these lower cars battle for 11th, 12th towards the race to try to get to 10.
• 6:59
  And then you're actually rewarded for it and you're going to see them fight even more towards the end. Sure. But I don't think I think first should have I like that seven point separation from first to second. I really do because you're rewarded right. It's a true ward because then from like second to third it's a two or three point drop difference.
• 7:15
  18 to 15. 18 to 15. Yeah, so it's yeah so it's three and then I believe it was on a 12 so it's three from there so it's like I like how it's like 10 points difference from first to third.
• 7:26
  You know because you're rewarded for not only a podium but for winning the race.
• 7:31
  Well, and speaking of winning the race. Let's just head right into it. The Miami GP.
• 7:38
  Joe just go for it.
• 7:40
  Lando no wins Norris gets his first win at Miami.
• 7:46
  I'm telling you for the last 20 laps after that safety car went in, I couldn't, I mean I was sick on the ground just like waiting for something bad to happen and ruin the race like I was, I could.
• 7:58
  I was on like I was on a call with a few people while watching it and they can attest that I was like, like barfing I was I was.
• 8:05
  I could not handle that that end of the race and the way he not only did he win it but he got time off of Verstappen. That was he was pulling that was 100% I think really anything can happen this year I'm pretty happy, you know, I'm going to be happy for the rest of the year.
• 8:22
  100% with you. It was not only that, like you said with 20 laps to go like he didn't, he wasn't handed this win he was handed a free pit stop which certainly helped in the overall grand scheme of things. Not saying he was it's unfeasible for him to win before that but it's more than likely not going to happen because he has to pass two Ferraris or Red Bull and Piastri who was looking strong until he got damaged.
• 8:41
  So it would have been a fight. But it was the fact that they had a pit stop that safety car with 20 laps to go. He held on he got out of that one second range ridiculously fast from Verstappen so Verstappen couldn't attack and then pulled away to a seven second gap.
• 8:57
  I didn't watch the race live and I saw Lando one I was like oh Verstappen DNF'd and then like to see that gap I was like that's insane. And he kept pulling away and I mean to even back to your point even more Joe, Piastri and Lando were recording the fastest laps the entire time.
• 9:15
  And at the end of the race like halfway towards the end Verstappen was complaining about his turning and everything like that. But I mean the whole race the McLaren's were pulling out the fastest laps. Who ended up with the fastest lap was it Oscar? I think it was Oscar. That's what I thought.
• 9:29
  That's a point correct? He doesn't get the point though. He was out of points. You got to finish inside of the top ten to get the point. He finished a lot. Really? And get the fastest lap? Sorry he finished 13th. Oh I didn't know that. Okay. Well there we go. Learn something today.
• 9:42
  And he raced a hell of a race. He raced really well. He got damaged. And how did he get, I remember him getting damaged. It hit the rear of somebody wasn't it? Yeah he hit the rear, well I don't know it's a little hard to tell but Carlos like drove his rear tires into Oscar's front wings and you saw it just like bend and that was just not going to get him anything during the race.
• 10:05
  It was silly. He came back on the track at what 18th or 19th? Yeah and he climbed back up. He climbed with like 18 laps left or something? I don't even think it was that many. I think it was like 10 laps. It was closer to 10 than that 20 mark I believe. They look good.
• 10:18
  The McLaren's looked like they brought upgrades this week and you sure as **** could tell. And Oscar only 50% of those upgrades on his car. Exactly. Oscar didn't have the full upgrades.
• 10:28
  Looking forward Lando literally said, not Lando, Lando's engineer was talking after the race that they're expecting to do even better at other tracks. That their upgrades are supposed to be better at other tracks than Miami.
• 10:39
  After this week I 100% expect them to be battling with Ferrari. Like a normal round. I think at this point they might have surpassed Ferrari at this point.
• 10:49
  We'll jump into this in the news. I have something about that. Fair enough. Fair enough. Lando getting his first win in what is 110th start? 110th race. That's got to just be a giant weight off your shoulders I would imagine.
• 11:04
  Especially with the drama and how the Russian Grand Prix happened a couple years back where the rain lost him the race and for him to get it. It was someone who's, I haven't been an F1 fan or a McLaren fan as long as Joe, but I kind of attached to him right away just because I loved Lando.
• 11:22
  I'm a science fan too and then when Danny Rick went there he was just kind of this little fine Almond McLaren fan. It was really really cool to see Lando get that win. And you can tell after the race.
• 11:34
  That was his 16th podium technically I think. Which is pretty impressive. But also as far as Lando, early on we were talking about who's the president? Zach Brown. We're talking about Zach Brown and how the F1 drive to survive, how it was weird him and Lando on the golf course.
• 11:55
  That's not so weird now. Nobody looks back on that now and it's like that was weird. That's a winner. You've got a win now. So it's not so weird. Obviously you're going to fight for that guy. Somebody can get you a win. It doesn't look so weird. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool to see that happen.
• 12:09
  It's just crazy that this is probably the tip of the iceberg. He's just getting started too. You get that first one. I don't think it's going to happen where you see George Russell got his one win and hasn't been able to get anywhere close to a win since. Lando's been fighting. Lando's way more consistent than that. He's been fighting at the top. He's shown it for a long time. How old is he? He's still young. He's 25 or 25. That's what I mean. And it feels like he's already a vet. I would consider him a vet in F1. And they're building around him. He's 24. Right.
• 12:38
  And if it is 16 podiums, that's ridiculous. 24. I do think they're probably building around him a little bit. But Oscar is, you know, he's handling it. Yeah. I think the outlook's really good. I haven't stopped smiling. I think the rest of this year is going to be really fun to just watch how they progress and maybe even steal a couple more wins from Red Bull. And like if we're good on McLaren, I really want to talk about Red Bull. Like Verstappen was not thrilled with the car. Like on lap 39, I'm sorry.
• 13:07
  He was quoted saying, you know, he can't get the car to turn. Big disaster. Blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? Is it? I mean, I'm going to throw it in there because I'm not a big Verstappen fan. Is it because he's not able to catch Lando?
• 13:21
  I think that that interview at the end of the race and just everything he said and everything, I think Max was giving it all he had and the car was just not it that day compared to the McLaren. I think the McLaren car was just that much better and Lando just seized that opportunity.
• 13:38
  I think that Verstappen, I compare him to like Conor McGregor. When the stuff's going down, he's going to talk his trash and all that. Afterwards, he has humility. He always has humility after the race, I think. But I think mid-race, I mean, I think he's frustrated.
• 13:53
  Because, but like I don't know. I don't know. I honestly just watching the race, I think Lando was just a better driver out there. Maybe this race. This race. Not in general. This race, I think Lando was just a better race driver out there.
• 14:08
  I think Max was just trying to manipulate that car to do things it didn't want to do that day. Yeah, I think it was more so the car than Max. But I'm not taking anything away from Lando. I think he drove a great race. Best driver of the day. Who got driver of the day? Lando.
• 14:22
  Lando. 100%. Yeah, like 40 to 50% over. Yeah, no. I think Max had the pace. Obviously, he got first in qualifying, right? His car was fast enough to make it. But the McLarens were just driving the best out there the whole weekend.
• 14:38
  I think there was something, maybe there was something wrong with the Red Bull. Maybe it just isn't great on this track this year for some reason. But when Max took out that Bullard and caused that first virtual safety car to come out, it sounded, and I don't know if this is ever really confirmed or not, but it sounded like maybe he took floor damage from running over.
• 14:57
  Not the Bullard itself, but whatever was holding the Bullard in. So maybe that affected his race in the long run. Again, it all happened on track, so it's still a legit win from Norris. Max did that to himself. But maybe that's some reasoning as to why he got such a gap on Max. I'm not sure.
• 15:15
  I don't think so, because if that were to be the case, it's on the radio. Red Bull is coming out after the race and saying they did do, dude, like they're not just going to let that go. Let that go. It's maybe not Max, but Horner, he's not going to just let that slide that that's why they lost.
• 15:31
  The only thing with Max though, it's like even after he won the sprint, he verbally went LOL, the car is absolutely terrible. So I do think the car just wasn't there this weekend. But there was no response from his engineer around his car and around the complaints he was saying.
• 15:49
  Not really. He was complaining about everything, like tire management, the balance was off, and then the downforce was off, the steering. He complained about literally everything. He said the steering was off. And then they said no, right? And then he was like, well check the downforce. I might be confusing.
• 16:07
  Yeah, you might be right. And they're like, no, it looks good. And then, but for the second part of that, they had no answer. They never gave them anything. And they might not have aired it. They checked on it and came back to it. Like it's there on the commentaries, like the broadcast is only going to air the stuff that's going to get, you know, likes, attention clicks.
• 16:22
  For sure. And I mean, sticking with Red Bull real quick. What about, what about, that was kind of my reaction about Sergio almost just ending the race for multiple people in turn one.
• 16:36
  I would have loved it if he would have quit for Sap. Sorry, I just blew a tire. But anyway, no, seriously. Like, it just, I don't know, it was crazy. He almost took out Max for sure, but I mean, he would have took out a couple other cars too.
• 16:51
  That was reckless. It allowed, it allowed, who was it?
• 16:54
  Peastry. Peastry to get up in the second. Yeah, it allowed Peastry to get up in the second. He got past, he got three spots. He jumped back past the Red Bull and I think both Ferraris. Both Ferraris, yeah. Did we ever hear like what? Cause Sian's got Leclerc off the line.
• 17:07
  Sure. Yeah. And Sian's got Leclerc off the line and then Leclerc was able to get that position back, but Peastry had already gone through. No, Sergio was trying, he didn't have the brakes. Like they, there was no grip on that part of the track. No doubt. Yeah, we know. Yeah. No doubt.
• 17:19
  But, okay. Any other comment on Red Bull? I wouldn't say it's a disappointment. It was just refreshing to see a different car beat, as far as we know, a healthy Verstappen car.
• 17:32
  Yeah, it was just cool to not, to see both Red Bulls finish the race and not be in the one spot. No doubt.
• 17:39
  I think the coolest part to me was that Lando gained a seven and a half second set cap. It wasn't that he just beat the Red Bulls.
• 17:45
  And that's what makes me look at the rest of the season as like, we might actually see some racing now, not just Max running away with 15, 30 second wins.
• 17:55
  And it wasn't like, cause I guess it wasn't really like this, but because of the whole pit stop switch and all that, that's where kind of it went. But I mean, they restarted right on top of each other.
• 18:05
  And Max was pushing up, Max was pushing up besides Lando trying to jump the gun on him. And Lando just, I mean, like you said, Tyler, within the first lap, he had a second on him.
• 18:15
  Yeah. No, he just drove away from him. Okay. So here's my other issue with the steering. Just my last point on it, cause it's driving me nuts.
• 18:21
  My other issue with the steering, you have a very talented Leclerc behind him. If he was having that many issues, Leclerc catches him.
• 18:31
  The Ferrari, I mean, the Ferrari didn't look great this weekend though.
• 18:35
  If he's having problems steering and making turns and stuff, Leclerc catches him. If he's running into issues that bad, Leclerc catches him.
• 18:42
  It's a good point cause the Ferrari-
• 18:43
  There's a two second gap by the end of the race between him and Leclerc.
• 18:46
  Right.
• 18:47
  Over like two and a half seconds.
• 18:49
  Yeah, no, you're right.
• 18:50
  If he's running into that many issues, Leclerc catches him a hundred percent.
• 18:53
  I don't know.
• 18:55
  Maybe on skill alone, only if that Ferrari is a hundred percent.
• 18:59
  Yeah, cause neither of the Ferraris looked great this entire weekend at all. I mean, they got 3.5.
• 19:05
  They didn't finish bad. I definitely see your point.
• 19:09
  They started right on top of each other. He was talking about the complaints right after the restart.
• 19:15
  I think it just creates more and more to look at for this weekend's race, a hundred percent.
• 19:20
  To see how Ferrari bounces back from that a little bit.
• 19:23
  I say bounce back even though they're still on the podium and then still finishing 3.5.
• 19:29
  There's something coming. We'll talk about that.
• 19:31
  We'll talk about that.
• 19:33
  Moving along in Miami, just something I wanted to make a note of, not a big deal.
• 19:39
  But early on there's actually some really good battles between Hulkenberg and Lewis.
• 19:43
  Those first 20 laps maybe. I don't know. I had to write it down cause it seemed impressive to me.
• 19:50
  And it's again looking forward to Hulkenberg's next season.
• 19:54
  It'll just be fun to maybe see him battle for best of the rest. I doubt it.
• 20:00
  Very happy dreamer.
• 20:02
  I know. That's really lofty.
• 20:04
  Very impressive for Hulkenberg. Pretty disappointing for Lewis that he's fighting a Haas.
• 20:09
  And he couldn't get past him.
• 20:11
  That's what I mean. That's what makes me think that Hulkenberg was driving the crap out of that thing.
• 20:16
  The highest position P6 for Lewis was this week. P6 was his highest place this year.
• 20:24
  That's crazy.
• 20:26
  That's wild.
• 20:28
  That Mercedes, there's nothing about that car that looks good.
• 20:30
  He was a lot faster than George. George lost to Yuki.
• 20:36
  I mean he looked terrible. He's still an eighth.
• 20:39
  George just hasn't looked good to me all year.
• 20:41
  Terrible for a Mercedes, right?
• 20:43
  They got some stuff to fix. I heard they were bringing upgrades.
• 20:47
  I also heard there are a few other teams bringing upgrades that are Mercedes-like.
• 20:51
  I think Ferrari's bringing a side pod upgrade that is kind of like what Mercedes has.
• 20:56
  Or in the realm of what Mercedes has right now. So that should be fun to see.
• 21:00
  That's interesting.
• 21:02
  Maybe they can do it better. I assume they probably can.
• 21:05
  Can't do it much worse. That's a fact.
• 21:08
  Very true.
• 21:09
  Obviously Alpine getting a point this weekend.
• 21:12
  Yeah, Ocon.
• 21:14
  And they were racing each other hard throughout the race.
• 21:17
  Gasly and Ocon both. There's a couple of times they touched tires.
• 21:22
  I was like, whoa, we're going to see another Alpine, Alpine GARNEDGE.
• 21:27
  But no.
• 21:29
  That first lap they were fighting hard.
• 21:31
  I mean, Yuki's seventh. That's pretty impressive.
• 21:33
  That's Ty's best finish this year, right?
• 21:36
  That's gotta be. That's how I'm trying.
• 21:38
  Great full weekend for a racing ball.
• 21:42
  I would agree.
• 21:44
  Looking at the rest of the season that's happened before this race,
• 21:49
  I would say that's a great progress for the V-Cars.
• 21:53
  Points-wise, they kind of separated because I think the closest was Haas.
• 21:56
  Them and Haas were fighting for the constructors.
• 22:00
  Yeah, I can't remember. We should do an update on constructors next time.
• 22:04
  They were fighting with Haas and this kind of separates them a little bit.
• 22:08
  I mean, RB's got 11 points this weekend between the two races.
• 22:13
  That's more than Haas has on the year. Haas has seven on the year.
• 22:18
  So they definitely had a huge gap to Haas in this race.
• 22:22
  Realistically, with how Aston's looking and Stroll can't finish anything,
• 22:26
  Fernando, that Aston looked terrible this weekend.
• 22:29
  If Yuki can keep finishing in that 7-10 spot,
• 22:32
  there's a chance they could catch the Aston's.
• 22:34
  That would be crazy. That would be wild.
• 22:36
  That would be impressive.
• 22:37
  Does he get the spot on Red Bull if he solely brings him to fifth?
• 22:42
  I think Sergio has that spot on.
• 22:43
  We're not going to go on a deep tangent because we literally do every time.
• 22:46
  But that is an interesting thought.
• 22:48
  If he keeps consistently finishing in the top eight the rest of the season,
• 22:53
  Yuki I'm talking about, I think he's got to be in consideration.
• 22:57
  I think Carlos is still the number one option.
• 22:59
  Tchaikov has that seat locked up. Locked up? Like instead of Carlos?
• 23:04
  I don't think Carlos has a... I don't think Carlos is going to Red Bull.
• 23:06
  They can't offer him that.
• 23:07
  So what happens to V-Carb then?
• 23:09
  I think you... I remember you saying that... So who gets kicked out? Who stays?
• 23:13
  Danny Rick. Danny Rick stays?
• 23:15
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:16
  Which would be interesting.
• 23:17
  Considering... Sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 23:19
  Yuki stays. Danny Rick's gone.
• 23:21
  I think the whole situation...
• 23:22
  I think they want to go youth movement in the V-Carbs to help develop.
• 23:26
  That's what that team's for.
• 23:27
  The only reason Danny Rick got that seat was to potentially...
• 23:30
  Yeah.
• 23:31
  Potential to move in and I think we've seen that it's probably not going to happen.
• 23:34
  He would need one heck of a last... This is his last year in F1.
• 23:38
  Unfortunately.
• 23:39
  I would agree.
• 23:40
  That's rough.
• 23:41
  Where's he going to go?
• 23:42
  Reserve driver?
• 23:43
  No.
• 23:44
  Not even.
• 23:45
  No.
• 23:46
  Haas can't... If he wants to stay maybe.
• 23:47
  Allegedly there's a driver...
• 23:48
  This is his last year in F1 car.
• 23:49
  Allegedly we already know one of the drivers for Haas. We can mention that later.
• 23:52
  Yeah.
• 23:53
  Just real quick, since we're on the V-Carbs subject, I wanted to mention their livery.
• 23:58
  I thought it looked really awesome this weekend.
• 24:00
  Clean.
• 24:01
  I'm sorry.
• 24:02
  A couple weekends ago in Miami compared to all this hype that we were hearing about Ferrari
• 24:07
  and they're going to be blue.
• 24:09
  To be fair, the driver's suits were blue head to toe.
• 24:12
  They look clean.
• 24:13
  The driver's suits look clean.
• 24:14
  The car was hideous.
• 24:15
  Those look sweet, but then I see the car comes out and I was like... I mean kind of what I
• 24:18
  was expecting, right?
• 24:19
  There's no way the whole thing was going to be blue, but...
• 24:21
  It was terrible.
• 24:22
  Just like they were hyping it up, hyping it up, and then V-Carb just smashed it out of
• 24:26
  the park in my opinion in comparison.
• 24:28
  I saw a... I think maybe one of you guys sent it, like a faux image of the blue they're going
• 24:33
  with.
• 24:34
  I think I sent that.
• 24:35
  Yeah, it was completely blue.
• 24:36
  I was like, who's the red car on the track?
• 24:37
  Where's Ferrari?
• 24:38
  I was watching the sprint.
• 24:39
  I was like, what's going on right now?
• 24:42
  And then I was like, oh, they're red still.
• 24:44
  What is he doing?
• 24:45
  Yeah.
• 24:46
  Nah, I just... whatever.
• 24:47
  Big disappointment to me.
• 24:49
  And now, moving to... actually Tyler, you mentioned this, right?
• 24:52
  Last night on our little meeting, you mentioned how they're going to HP now, so now there's
• 24:57
  going to be a giant blue HP instead of the Shell logo on the red car.
• 25:00
  Yeah, so where the HP was on the Ferrari in Miami is going to stay.
• 25:04
  They're just not going to have the blue accent, so there's going to be a big HP on whatever
• 25:07
  you call it that's right behind them.
• 25:09
  And then on their wing now, it's going to be the HP, which it just... it doesn't look
• 25:13
  good.
• 25:14
  It's a clash.
• 25:15
  I get it.
• 25:16
  They're giving them $100 million a year.
• 25:17
  Like, it's a title sponsor.
• 25:19
  You got to do it.
• 25:20
  But that... the Shell was just so iconic with Ferrari.
• 25:23
  The red and the yellow work together.
• 25:25
  The red and that HP blue do not coincide.
• 25:28
  No, I mean, and I don't, you know, color match very well.
• 25:32
  I do dress myself, believe it or not.
• 25:34
  But like, I don't... yeah, I know.
• 25:36
  But I, you know, it's just going to look bad.
• 25:39
  The red and blue, I agree 100%.
• 25:41
  It's going to clash super hard.
• 25:43
  Really, the last thing kind of to wrap up Miami.
• 25:46
  Joe, do you want to touch on K-Meg's penalties that came late?
• 25:51
  He's just a bulldozer.
• 25:53
  Love to have a conversation about K-Meg.
• 25:55
  Yeah, 25 seconds of penalties in the sprint, 20 seconds of penalties in the race, I think.
• 26:00
  I'm probably wrong about the race, but I know he got about 25 in the sprint.
• 26:04
  He is... he said after the race, it's not a position he wants to be in, but it's a position
• 26:10
  he finds himself in and that's fighting for Hulkenberg.
• 26:13
  I think it's a good position to be in because the team knows he's going to be able to be a team player.
• 26:18
  But at the same time, it's like, is that a great look for Haas, having a car out there that's
• 26:25
  like running people off the track, getting all those penalties?
• 26:28
  He's not breaking the car, so that's good, right?
• 26:30
  That's like huge.
• 26:31
  I keep thinking about that.
• 26:32
  As long as he's not breaking the car, I guess whatever.
• 26:35
  But he's what, two more points away from getting a race suspension.
• 26:39
  And those points are almost entirely within the last two races.
• 26:43
  Like, it's crazy.
• 26:44
  It is a weird look.
• 26:45
  You bring up a good point.
• 26:46
  Like, is that the look Haas really wants to be having right now?
• 26:50
  Yeah.
• 26:51
  And I don't think they care about K-Mage's image at all by any means.
• 26:54
  So I think he just, what you said, being a team player and they're just doing everything they can,
• 27:00
  it feels like, to get Hulken points.
• 27:02
  So, I mean, to talk about Haas, I don't know if this is correlated at all.
• 27:05
  I didn't really read up on it.
• 27:07
  Why is Gunther suing Haas?
• 27:09
  I didn't.
• 27:11
  Other way around, Haas is suing Gunther.
• 27:13
  Oh, really?
• 27:14
  Yep.
• 27:15
  He mentioned, he had a Haas logo, I think, in his book that he wrote.
• 27:21
  And so I think Gene is suing him because of that.
• 27:23
  Oh my god.
• 27:24
  I have to look that up.
• 27:25
  But it's around that.
• 27:27
  I don't think Gunther is suing Haas.
• 27:28
  Come on, Gene.
• 27:29
  That's a worse look for Haas than this.
• 27:31
  At least they know they got their money in Hulkenberg.
• 27:33
  That could actually get points.
• 27:34
  Yeah, that's a bad look.
• 27:36
  That's wild.
• 27:37
  That's whack.
• 27:38
  I thought it was the other way around.
• 27:39
  I'll double check.
• 27:40
  But I like that K-Mage is doing this.
• 27:42
  He's fighting for a team that needs one point.
• 27:45
  It's true.
• 27:46
  One point at the end of the year when you're only going to get 19.
• 27:50
  Right.
• 27:51
  And seventh is the highest they've ever finished.
• 27:54
  So if they can finish this year, that's tying their best finish ever in what, five years?
• 27:59
  Yeah, it's five or six.
• 28:01
  Gotta be.
• 28:02
  Gotta be.
• 28:03
  And it's just, for those teams, it's millions of dollars finishing that.
• 28:08
  That's Danny Rick.
• 28:09
  That's Danny Rick right there.
• 28:11
  You want Danny Rick to take seventh.
• 28:13
  Not going to happen.
• 28:14
  But yeah.
• 28:15
  They're not going to take seventh?
• 28:16
  No, Danny Rick's not going to happen there.
• 28:18
  If there's a way to do it, it's getting seventh.
• 28:21
  Now, it would be a popular decision.
• 28:22
  If you're trying to grow F1 in the U.S., that would be a pretty popular decision.
• 28:28
  It would be.
• 28:29
  But I don't know if it's the right move for Haas right now.
• 28:31
  But I'm sure, again, another conversation to have throughout the rest of the season, absolutely.
• 28:37
  Really quick, just because I was wrong.
• 28:40
  Steiner did sue Haas.
• 28:41
  Haas sued Steiner back because of the trademark infringement.
• 28:44
  Why did he sue?
• 28:45
  I need to double check.
• 28:46
  I'm not sure.
• 28:47
  This article isn't telling me.
• 28:48
  But yeah, they're suing each other.
• 28:50
  Got it.
• 28:51
  That makes sense.
• 28:52
  And obviously when they come back and rebuttal, they got the guns.
• 28:54
  Right.
• 28:55
  With that, we'll just head right into our new segment.
• 29:01
  And of course, right away, we're just going to start with Ferrari, actually, a couple
• 29:11
  small minor things.
• 29:13
  Ferrari actually signed two former Mercedes staff members.
• 29:18
  The former head of Mercedes' Young Driver program becomes the deputy team principal.
• 29:24
  And I'm blanking on his name.
• 29:25
  He's a former F1 driver.
• 29:26
  I don't know why I'm blanking on his name.
• 29:28
  But is that really a big deal at all for Ferrari?
• 29:33
  Or is it just kind of a change of scenery for these staff members for Mercedes?
• 29:38
  I think it's a change of scenery.
• 29:41
  Wasn't there also, I mean, wasn't there a bigger move where Red Bull took a ton of...
• 29:47
  I did not hear that.
• 29:49
  Mercedes.
• 29:50
  Mercedes, right?
• 29:51
  That was a number of years ago now.
• 29:52
  No, there was something I thought that happened recently where a big move happened with a
• 29:55
  ton of other engineers.
• 29:56
  Oh, a lot of Red Bull went to Aston when they became Aston.
• 30:02
  It's two Merck staff with the Merck car, whatever.
• 30:06
  They might have a tie to Lewis is what I'm guessing.
• 30:09
  Well, it's got to be.
• 30:10
  That's the only thing I could come up with.
• 30:13
  And so we'll just see.
• 30:14
  Not a big deal.
• 30:15
  Jerome D'Embrogio.
• 30:16
  Yeah, that fella.
• 30:17
  Yeah, that rolls right off my mind.
• 30:18
  Ferrari was also seen testing, quote, rain guards.
• 30:25
  Joe made a good point that most of the rain, you know, comes from the diffuser really on
• 30:30
  the rear of the car.
• 30:31
  But they're testing these rain guards.
• 30:33
  Is that really worth it?
• 30:35
  I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong, you see from the pod cameras, right?
• 30:39
  When it's wet, you can't head into that turn one anywhere.
• 30:43
  You can't see it.
• 30:44
  Nothing. But is it even worth their time?
• 30:48
  I'm curious if the weight of the added rain guards will.
• 30:54
  Because I think having guards over, I think that might help with, I guess, when we see
• 31:02
  like the wind hitting those tires, they go everywhere.
• 31:05
  That causes the cars behind them to kind of get all messy.
• 31:07
  But I think the rain guards might help with that.
• 31:10
  Now, the car is going to be a little bit more aggressive.
• 31:13
  They might help with that.
• 31:14
  Now, the added weight might kind of, you know, mess that all together.
• 31:17
  But I don't know.
• 31:18
  I think they're trying to just make the sport safer.
• 31:20
  You're right.
• 31:21
  They look ridiculous.
• 31:22
  I don't think they're working, though.
• 31:23
  So they didn't look like they didn't look like they were working.
• 31:26
  They didn't look like they were working.
• 31:27
  Well, they also it wasn't like raining.
• 31:29
  No, it's not a wet track.
• 31:31
  Yeah.
• 31:32
  So if it was raining, what are they going to do?
• 31:34
  What are we doing testing these without rain?
• 31:37
  And they were testing them for the FIA, correct?
• 31:39
  Yeah.
• 31:40
  It wasn't something they were doing to make sure.
• 31:43
  It was for the FIA.
• 31:44
  And to your point of the weight, now do you have to redesign other parts of the car if that became a mandatory thing?
• 31:50
  I doubt it. I think they'd probably just.
• 31:51
  Or just a bolt on thing like, oh, it's going to rain now.
• 31:54
  They're going to be the same.
• 31:55
  So everybody's using your universal rain guard.
• 31:58
  So it's the weight of the car going into it.
• 32:00
  It's it's probably what matters.
• 32:01
  And then we're adding this weight with the rain guards.
• 32:04
  Everybody's getting equal weight added.
• 32:05
  Could it be like a part that they can modify to be their own, though?
• 32:09
  Like I doubt the FIA would allow that.
• 32:11
  I think it's going to be just like I think it's going to be added as an extension of the tire.
• 32:15
  Sure. Yeah, I just.
• 32:16
  But even if they if they knock off 10, 15 percent of it of decreased visibility, that's still worth it in the grand scheme of safety.
• 32:24
  In the grand scheme of safety, it would be worth it.
• 32:27
  It would make a difference when you have if you're saving 10, 15 percent on 20 cars, that's probably going to make a huge difference.
• 32:34
  Exactly. And I don't think drivers would have a huge deal with it unless it like
• 32:38
  drastically made the car manipulate differently.
• 32:41
  Yeah, I think that's the only issue drivers would have with it.
• 32:43
  Like they don't care about aesthetics, like if they're going to have a higher chance of survival.
• 32:47
  Yeah, no, for sure. And if it's across the board, the same.
• 32:50
  Right. Right. Just let us worry about aesthetics.
• 32:53
  It would be interesting. So is it would be like how would the FIA like mandate that?
• 32:57
  Right. Is it going to be mandated only if they're mandating wet tires?
• 33:01
  Because they have mandates that you can only use wet in the race and under certain conditions.
• 33:05
  And then if it stops raining, people start switching to the intermediates.
• 33:09
  How is that going to like play out?
• 33:11
  I think they're just going to be on the rest of the race.
• 33:13
  This has got to be a couple of years thing. I mean, they were just testing it.
• 33:16
  For sure. It's not the first test, though. They've done they've done testing before on it.
• 33:19
  It was the first test of this particular kind.
• 33:21
  I just hadn't heard of it before. So I just saw a picture of this ugly thing.
• 33:25
  And I was like, let's see what that is.
• 33:28
  I didn't think it was real at first. I was like one of those joke pages on Facebook.
• 33:32
  While we're on Ferrari, the news I saw.
• 33:36
  This is the same news, the same news that I heard when I found out that Marco was leaving.
• 33:43
  Right. Marco. Not Marco. Who's the engineer just left?
• 33:47
  Nui. Sorry, Nui. The same news when I got that news that he was leaving.
• 33:52
  He was going to make the announcement before Miami.
• 33:54
  The same thing. I found out that Ferrari is apparently coming to a Mola with an upgrade that is insane.
• 34:01
  Like point four seconds.
• 34:04
  Point four seconds a lap on a Mola.
• 34:08
  I believe it when I see it. That would be wild.
• 34:10
  So we're talking, we're talking. That's huge.
• 34:12
  Again, this is a big this is I got the news, the news. Same thing.
• 34:16
  We're saying staying ahead of Ferrari type of or I'm sorry, staying ahead of McLaren type of upgrade.
• 34:21
  We're talking about we're talking about McLaren upgrade from last year.
• 34:24
  That's big of a jump we're talking. Really?
• 34:26
  Really. If it is point four seconds is huge.
• 34:29
  For sure. That's I mean, my news has not lied so far.
• 34:32
  That's that's true. So you did call that.
• 34:35
  So if I said before Miami is going to call it and they're saying point four.
• 34:39
  So if it's a huge upgrade like that. Oh, yeah.
• 34:42
  That's a mob source. Yeah, this is the this is the this is the like the Mercedes S side pod change that I was talking about earlier.
• 34:49
  That's OK. This is what that is. Yeah. So it's a huge. Yeah.
• 34:52
  And it's similar to Mercedes side pod.
• 34:55
  No, it's a vertical bypass duct instead of like the larger one inlet.
• 35:01
  Ah, got you. Yeah.
• 35:03
  Similar to the one seen on Alpina and Mercedes.
• 35:07
  Yeah, that's that's interesting.
• 35:10
  I would I heard it's going to be huge.
• 35:12
  Point four. While we're on upgrades, Mercedes allegedly is bringing one that is not huge.
• 35:18
  They're they literally came out and said and I can't remember what article I'm sure it was on honestly F1's website.
• 35:23
  But some along the line, somebody came out and said straight up like, yeah, we're coming out with upgrades, but it's not going to keep up with the rest of the rest of everybody else.
• 35:33
  Meaning like Ferrari and McLaren and throwing stuff at the wall.
• 35:37
  That's what it sounds like. I mean, what do they got to lose at this point?
• 35:41
  I mean, they got to try everything. They're losing.
• 35:44
  And they're losing the best driver, one of the best drivers of all time.
• 35:48
  Like what do you have to do whatever you can to at least compete, to try to stay in that?
• 35:53
  I mean, they're fighting for fourth in constructors at this point, which is crazy to even consider.
• 35:58
  They finished second last year. Yeah. And towards the end of the year, the car didn't look bad.
• 36:02
  It didn't. And Lewis got progressively better through last season, if I remember correctly.
• 36:06
  So I just yeah, it's not a good look, honestly, to come out and say that too is doesn't put confidence in your drivers.
• 36:14
  Yeah, being 60 points behind McLaren right now is in third. That's a pretty big gap.
• 36:20
  The thing with McLaren, Red Bull and Ferrari is they're only going to improve during the year.
• 36:25
  Like every team is. Right. But in terms of like the upgrades, like you can't just stay stagnant with those teams right now.
• 36:31
  You have to do what you can to grab those point for, you know, four tenths of a second.
• 36:35
  You're gaining on a lap is what Mercedes needs to even compete for third right now, I would say.
• 36:40
  And it's just it's just not been enough. It hasn't been enough. I don't think it'll be enough this weekend.
• 36:45
  And according to them, neither do they. It's going to be interesting to see if they can hold off Aston.
• 36:50
  They're not going to they're not going to hold off Fernando.
• 36:52
  Like it's how is Lance going to going to perform to like because like Lance, like they're only 22 points behind.
• 37:00
  Lance could get a point, but I don't see much more than him.
• 37:03
  I mean, honestly, he's been so wildly inconsistent this year.
• 37:06
  The only consistency he's had is finishing outside of tenth. I just. Yeah, I don't know.
• 37:12
  Real quick little little blurb. Williams allegedly is, quote, talking to four or five drivers.
• 37:17
  That just seemed like a lot to me right now. They're just, you know, whatever.
• 37:21
  Not really worth even discussing. Just figured I saw it. Thought it was interesting.
• 37:27
  If you have any thoughts, go for it. But I don't whatever. Who wants to go to that car right now?
• 37:31
  That's what I mean. That's what I mean. I'm going to be lucky if Elbon wants to stay.
• 37:34
  I mean, four or five drivers that the first four say no.
• 37:37
  I feel like I hear every weekend one of the commentators saying Williams, you know, this might be their weekend.
• 37:42
  They might actually get into points and, you know, do something.
• 37:44
  Sounds like the McLaren fans from the past two years. Yeah.
• 37:48
  Maybe a little. I mean, last year was bad.
• 37:51
  But yeah, we got there. Right.
• 37:53
  It only took one hundred and ten races, but we got there.
• 37:57
  Just real quick, Haas, allegedly KMage could be gone. Beerman could be in next season.
• 38:05
  Does that hold any weight? I think it's probably I think Beerman has a shot at one of the Haas seats in general.
• 38:12
  So for sure. Yeah, I think they just match him with KMage then.
• 38:16
  I think they want another young driver in there or do they go after like a Danny Rick instead of KMage?
• 38:21
  Is that an advantage for Haas? So do you keep KMage?
• 38:24
  We're just talking about his role this year. That's what I mean. He's not really somebody you put there to like help train or build a young driver.
• 38:30
  So do you do you even do you waste your time with KMage or you try to go elsewhere and get one of those people that's kind of on the out?
• 38:37
  Maybe like an Albon even. Oh, I don't hate that. I don't hate that either.
• 38:42
  I think I'd rather see Albon at Williams than at Haas for some weird reason.
• 38:46
  But I think he has a better chance of competing at Haas with where the cars are at right now. Albon.
• 38:50
  That's an interesting thought. That is interesting. Can they afford him though?
• 38:53
  Obviously, we know Haas is probably going to get whatever's left over after everybody else starts signing.
• 38:59
  I would imagine. So that's an interesting point, though.
• 39:01
  So let's say that Haas finishes, you know, eighth and Sobran Williams don't finish above them.
• 39:06
  And it's like a big separation between whatever of those two teams is going to get three points this year.
• 39:12
  So if it's a big separation like that, does somebody like Albon want to stay at Williams and take a little bit of a pay cut to get more points to show he's one of these top tier drivers to maybe get into one of those seats in the game?
• 39:22
  To get into one of those seats in the future in those top teams?
• 39:26
  You know, because let's say Red Bull does take checko next year. Albon goes into a Haas and starts getting consistent seventh, seventh, eighths maybe a really good look.
• 39:34
  And then boom, maybe that Red Bull seat opens up for him. But is that or is that a bad move like Rick going to Rinald?
• 39:40
  That's that's the catch was a wild move. Yeah, obviously didn't work.
• 39:44
  I don't think it's as wild as that because Albon's not in a race winning car and he's not going to a race winning car or like a race fighting a winning like a podium fighting car.
• 39:56
  Yeah, that that move between that Danny made was absurd, weird.
• 40:00
  But the point the point was not that he was going from a winning car to a less winning car.
• 40:04
  The point that I was trying to make was it hurt his credibility for other people to pick him up.
• 40:10
  I think he didn't have a tag on him anymore. He didn't. He was a Red Bull.
• 40:14
  Yeah, I think they still look at how he performed in a better car knowing dang well that rental car was just not not good.
• 40:22
  I think at this level, too, teams care about who's going to give him the best chance to win, who's the better driver, what's the best driver is going to give you a chance to win.
• 40:28
  They can get rid. They can shoo away some of that other little stuff.
• 40:31
  I mean, look at not comparing him to Kim, Kim, you're right.
• 40:34
  And don't get me wrong here, but media hated him like he never gave anybody the type of the time of day.
• 40:41
  But he was one hell of a race car driver. Yeah.
• 40:44
  But it's also a risk because you're going against Beerman, who has shown that he can race and get points.
• 40:48
  So does that does that also hurt his credibility down the road if Albon goes there?
• 40:52
  And it's like, OK, well, Beerman, Beerman is finishing above you every week.
• 40:56
  But he's now is he given a good point in the car because now you're not looking at Albon getting into one of those nicer seats at that point, for sure.
• 41:03
  But is Beerman going to do that? And if Albon's in Williams and still beating him in the Haas, he's in the same boat.
• 41:09
  Get yourself in the position to get yourself the best car build.
• 41:11
  I guess, right. It is kind of the same deal. Yeah, I guess. I guess it's just a moot point.
• 41:15
  Well, then the cows opinion. I don't think it's moot.
• 41:18
  But I think just I think just here's to Danny Rick being in a Haas next year.
• 41:23
  That'd be so dope, though. I would love to see him on the track again.
• 41:26
  I mean, I remember Danny was Haas was like, hey, we got you a driver seat for the half year he wasn't in.
• 41:32
  He turned down all the money that they wanted to get.
• 41:34
  They couldn't afford. They couldn't afford him. Yeah.
• 41:36
  He gave him a number and they were like, we don't even spend that much in our car.
• 41:39
  So they said in a drive to survive when when Danny was switching, I think from Ronaldo, McLaren or whatever with Danny was doing, he's like, we're light years away from being able to afford him.
• 41:50
  Oh, yeah. I remember like 15 mil or something to the numbers.
• 41:53
  It was like 20. It was up there. I know. Yeah.
• 41:56
  Yeah. It makes sense in a Haas car.
• 41:58
  If you get Danny to go down with that, we'll move into the Italian Italy preview.
• 42:03
  Danny Rick going to Haas.
• 42:14
  And obviously right off the bat, of course, we got Joe's preview history, whatever you want to call it.
• 42:21
  Joe, let it rip.
• 42:22
  Yeah. Looking forward to the Formula One M.S.C. Cruises Grand Premio del Made in Italy e del Emilia Romagna.
• 42:30
  Let's say that five times.
• 42:32
  Everyone we missed last year, unfortunately, due to some awful floods in Emilia Romagna.
• 42:39
  So the 2022 GP was the last one that we saw there.
• 42:42
  And it was the first F1 race at Emila that actually hosted people like attendance since 2006 were there at a different track.
• 42:49
  So they were there 22, 22, 22, 22, that just when like the track came back and stuff.
• 42:56
  And yeah, for those first two years or so, they couldn't have anyone there because of covid.
• 43:01
  But in 2022, it looked like it was a wet race, the entire race.
• 43:06
  And unfortunately, it was a bad race for Carlos, who was tagged by Danny on the first few corners.
• 43:11
  We saw him landing in the gravel and then getting kind of beach there, just ending his race, getting the first DNF.
• 43:17
  We saw Lonzo's side pod get damaged. I didn't see him get tagged by anyone.
• 43:21
  I just saw a clip of Lewis riding alongside him and then all of a sudden the side pod coming off.
• 43:26
  That ended his race. He also got a DNF.
• 43:28
  Magnussen was in top five, fighting McLaren and Alfa Romeo for a little while.
• 43:33
  Let's see. Yeah, he was fighting McLaren and Alfa Romeo for a little while.
• 43:39
  And then we saw Leclerc in third place on lap 54, spinning out on the chicane of 14 and 15 after taking too much of the curb.
• 43:46
  Allowing Norris to take advantage of the mistake and take third.
• 43:50
  Leclerc did get some damage from hitting the wall. He pit, got ninth place.
• 43:55
  He made his way back up to, I believe, sixth place, just creating a rough race for Ferrari in general for the Italian Grand Prix.
• 44:03
  So our final was Verstappen, Perez, Norris, Russell and then Bottas in the top five.
• 44:08
  Another superior Red Bull race. We might see something different this year, though.
• 44:13
  I mean, Norris got third those those few years ago. Obviously, it's a wildly different car.
• 44:18
  I mean, I think this was pre. Was this pre-reg changes? 2022?
• 44:25
  I don't think so.
• 44:27
  Or 2022 is the first year for the like the new the new the new generation of the car.
• 44:32
  I can't remember. I can't remember. I don't remember either.
• 44:34
  Either way, I think it's a wildly different car.
• 44:36
  2023 was such a wash in the first part of the year for McLaren.
• 44:39
  This is going to be a completely different car in general, but it's a strong car.
• 44:43
  I think maybe McLaren capitalizes knowing how well they did during that race.
• 44:47
  They capitalize on it and put upgrades that will work for it.
• 44:51
  So we got Lando and Oscar 100 percent upgrades for this race.
• 44:56
  I still think we're going to see Red Bull not not superiority per se, but we're going to see them fighting.
• 45:02
  But I'm hoping McLaren's up there with them to Ferrari.
• 45:05
  You want to see them do well in their one of their home races, right?
• 45:09
  But I just for some reason, Ferrari and home races and unfortunately,
• 45:13
  Leclerc and home races, they just don't mix very well.
• 45:17
  Yeah, I mean, I would like to think that the Ferraris can battle the McLaren's for a podium this week,
• 45:23
  at least Charles, but you make a good point.
• 45:25
  Charles is in home races. He's not home races. Not if not if.
• 45:28
  That's Monaco, right? So that's whatever.
• 45:31
  He just has the worst luck in Monaco.
• 45:33
  Yeah, he really does.
• 45:35
  Every single time, every single time.
• 45:37
  But new upgrades for for Imola, you know, we might see Ferrari really fighting a lot
• 45:42
  or we might see them with Mercedes-Benz pace with the new Mercedes side pods.
• 45:45
  Who knows?
• 45:47
  So who's on your podium?
• 45:49
  Who's on my podium? It's going to be the same exact podium from 2022.
• 45:52
  I'm going to say Verstappen, Perez and Norris.
• 45:55
  Norris, Norris. Verstappen, Perez and Norris.
• 45:58
  I think I think for me, I got to go as much as I think Checo can absolutely be on the podium this weekend.
• 46:07
  I think I got to go for Verstappen, one of each, for Verstappen, Leclerc and Lando.
• 46:13
  I wouldn't be surprised if Oscar had a great run and made a run and finished four or five.
• 46:20
  Honestly, I kind of expect to see that.
• 46:22
  And like out of those three teams, I mean, Checo could finish six.
• 46:28
  I don't think he will, but he absolutely could.
• 46:31
  I think this is a horrible track for Mercedes, too.
• 46:34
  I think that there's there's some high speed, fast turns and there's also some very technical turns.
• 46:39
  I think Mercedes is eight, nine, very low this week.
• 46:43
  I think it's a it's going to be a tough week for Mercedes.
• 46:46
  So who finishes in front of Merck then? Are you thinking?
• 46:49
  So I'll give you my podium.
• 46:50
  My podium is going to be Verstappen.
• 46:52
  It's going to be Lando.
• 46:54
  That's going to be Sions.
• 46:55
  I think the the turn I'm with you on the one, two, three different cars.
• 47:00
  I don't think Checo is going to be superb this race.
• 47:02
  I think Lando with the confidence he's going to get another podium.
• 47:06
  I don't think it's first.
• 47:07
  And I think Sions being, you know, kind of in a rut the last couple of weeks, hasn't been outperforming Leclerc.
• 47:13
  I think this is kind of his race to get it back, especially if they actually get the I'm banking.
• 47:18
  And the reason I'm putting a Ferrari up there and not to McLaren's is because I'm banking on this upgrade being a big hit for them.
• 47:27
  That's fair. Who's your podium?
• 47:29
  I got Verstappen, obviously.
• 47:31
  I think he's going to come back and win this race.
• 47:34
  But I got McLaren locking down two and three.
• 47:37
  I got Lando and Pastry.
• 47:38
  I think those upgrades were huge last year for Lant or last week.
• 47:41
  Sorry. Last race.
• 47:43
  If I could get this technically correct.
• 47:45
  I hear you.
• 47:46
  I think those upgrades were huge. And with Pastry having I mean, Pastry, I think he would have fought for a podium if his car wouldn't have got hit last week.
• 47:53
  So you bring the other half of those upgrades to that car.
• 47:57
  And I mean, Miami wasn't even designed for those upgrades.
• 48:02
  This track is more designed what that McLaren can really go out and do.
• 48:06
  So I was just the track they were talking about that it was like what what style of track was the upgrades more designed for?
• 48:12
  I never high speed corners and more of that technicality.
• 48:16
  OK, so because like Miami doesn't really have it has like the you know, on the back side of the track, like that one chicane where Verstappen took out the cone.
• 48:23
  But other than that, Miami is not that technical of a track.
• 48:26
  This one definitely is where a Mola, you know, you got two big chicanes, you got that that last back.
• 48:31
  It's not like a 180 technically because it's two corners, but it's essentially you have to get that down perfect.
• 48:36
  And you're coming in with decent speed to be able to take it onto the straight where I mean, I think that McLaren is going to be super fast.
• 48:41
  I wouldn't be surprised if Lando grabbed another win this week.
• 48:45
  I wouldn't, but I think it's going to be like Red Bull is going to figure that car out for Max.
• 48:50
  I don't think I also I wouldn't be surprised if there's not a Red Bull in the top three with this.
• 48:54
  There's not a huge there's not like any huge straightaways.
• 48:58
  There's not any huge top speed in this track.
• 49:00
  There's only one DRS zone.
• 49:01
  Yeah. So I mean, like if there's if there's a track where we're going to find out what Verstappen really has with all these upgrades,
• 49:08
  if the Ferrari's upgrades are what they say they are, then this is a track where you don't see Verstappen in the top three maybe.
• 49:14
  I mean, finding out what Verstappen has, but literally finding out what everybody else has at this point, too.
• 49:18
  I think I think this is actually a really interesting race.
• 49:22
  I did want to circle back, though. So you said Mercedes, you're thinking eight, nine.
• 49:26
  Who do you think is finishing in front of them? Are we like Fernando maybe?
• 49:29
  Yeah. So we see Yuki finish in front of Merck's.
• 49:32
  No, so I think he split him.
• 49:34
  Yeah. But I think what we see is the Ferrari, the Red Bull and the McLaren top six.
• 49:40
  Yeah. Maybe with Cecho falling a little or whatever.
• 49:42
  I think we see Fernando above them with a technical course like this or track, if you will.
• 49:48
  I think this is kind of where he's going to really show off his skills.
• 49:52
  So I think you're going to see eight, nine out of Mercedes because Fernando is going to jump into seventh.
• 49:58
  Fair enough. Who's ten?
• 49:59
  Ten is going to be this week is going to be.
• 50:01
  Hulkenberg.
• 50:02
  Yeah, I want to see Hulkenberg. It might be Yuki, though.
• 50:05
  I might I might go more towards Yuki this week.
• 50:08
  Because of the track.
• 50:09
  I'd say Yuki or Okon.
• 50:10
  And Haas is known for the top end speed.
• 50:13
  I need to see more from Alpines this week.
• 50:15
  They look good in the sprint and the race last week.
• 50:17
  That car is a completely different car from week one.
• 50:20
  I know. I need to see it another week, though.
• 50:22
  You know what I mean? I would love to see my boy Gasly get a point. I'd love that.
• 50:28
  But I mean, yeah, it could be Okon.
• 50:31
  I think it's got to be Yuki. I think this this this track doesn't suit Haas.
• 50:36
  I think it can suit Yuki.
• 50:37
  Sure.
• 50:38
  I I unfortunately think one of the Mercedes is going to have a really bad weekend again.
• 50:43
  And unfortunately, I think it's probably going to be Lewis.
• 50:45
  I didn't say anything, but he finished 14th in 2022 at this track.
• 50:49
  So I don't know if maybe I wouldn't say he's a I don't know if he's bad at his track because it's Lewis Hamilton.
• 50:55
  I think maybe the car is just not great here.
• 50:58
  So unfortunately, I think one of the Mercedes is going to be out of the top 10.
• 51:01
  And I agree with Alonso.
• 51:04
  I mean, I would say probably V carbon than a Haas fill in those last two spots in as well.
• 51:10
  With more than with one mer completely out of the top.
• 51:13
  I think with one mer completely out.
• 51:15
  Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
• 51:17
  There you have it. There's our storylines for a Mola for sure.
• 51:21
  Just like that. Any any parting thoughts?
• 51:23
  I mean, anybody else?
• 51:25
  I think if if any one of ours kind of land with our predictions on this,
• 51:30
  how to start throwing some bread at it, throwing some cheddar at it.
• 51:33
  We'll give us an update on that.
• 51:35
  So last week, we had this last race, we had some some turning turning numbers here.
• 51:40
  Joe only got one point, so he's at 11.
• 51:42
  I was able to grab two, so I tied him at 11 and Smelty got two right.
• 51:47
  Or sorry, I got one. Me and Cole and I got one point.
• 51:50
  I can't talk.
• 51:52
  Both of you got two points.
• 51:54
  Cole have nine, Joe and I have 11.
• 51:56
  Hey, I'm not like alone in last anymore.
• 52:00
  I got something to play for. Only two back.
• 52:03
  I might I might need to change up my strategy because every single week,
• 52:06
  I'm rooting for you guys to win in the points in like this points more than I am
• 52:10
  because like I'm going like save.
• 52:12
  You want to see the difference?
• 52:14
  I want to see the three points.
• 52:16
  I mean, I want to see Oscar Lando and then Red and then Versapin.
• 52:19
  Obviously, I don't want to see Verstappen check out.
• 52:21
  You're at 11.
• 52:23
  That's right. You're tied for the lead.
• 52:25
  Take a chance.
• 52:27
  All right, Ocon.
• 52:29
  Ocon, it's your time to shine.
• 52:31
  You might as well just keep rolling over the money line and Verstappen check.
• 52:34
  You got them up there. That's what I'm saying.
• 52:35
  Yeah. How many times do I have?
• 52:37
  All but twice.
• 52:38
  Damn. That's where the last the two times that I didn't.
• 52:41
  Did I get points those weekends?
• 52:43
  You didn't have him for Japan and he finished second.
• 52:50
  OK, so it's only been once.
• 52:51
  OK, well, there you go.
• 52:52
  I guess it's going to be Verstappen check all year.
• 52:54
  Oh, yeah. I put Perez instead of check.
• 52:56
  That's why I was throwing it off.
• 52:57
  That makes sense.
• 52:58
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• 53:11
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