Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Rev. Valerie Love - Witch
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- 0:04My name is Victor Ferman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
- 0:10fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and the crossroads at which they meet.
- 0:17Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more with
- 0:22fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to Destination unlimited. The
- 0:33witch is an ancient archetype, alive and thriving the deep unconscious of all.
- 0:40She's the phoenix, proof that what once was burned was never lost, only
- 0:46reborn from the ashes. What is the work of the modern witch and what
- 0:51may we learn from the practice. My guest this week on Destination Unlimited,
- 0:56Reverend Valorie Love is the author of twenty four books on practical spirituality, magic,
- 1:02the occult, and Christian witchcraft. As an ordained Minister of Spiritual Consciousness,
- 1:07practicing Christian witch and global retreat leader, her sole mission is to inspire
- 1:12to freedom. Her website is Valorielove dot com and she joins me this week
- 1:18to share her path and new book, which divine alignments with the primordial energies
- 1:23of magic and cycles of nature. Please join me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited.
- 1:32Reverend Valerie Love, Welcome, Reverend Vow. Thank you so much,
- 1:36Victor, thank you for this invitation. I'm looking forward to this discussion.
- 1:41First of all, congratulations on your new book, which which will be published
- 1:47the first week of October, and it's one of twenty four books that you've
- 1:51written on practical spirituality and magic. Congratulations. Oh, thank you so much,
- 1:56Victor. It has been a beautiful labor of love, but over the
- 2:00last year along with our sacred storytellers who have their witchy stories in the book
- 2:05as well, so it is truly a collaborative work. Absolutely, you are
- 2:10a prolific author twenty four books on practical spirituality and magic, the occult and
- 2:17Christian witchcraft. You're also an ordained Minister of Spiritual Consciousness, of practicing Christian
- 2:23witch and a global retreat leader. And your bio says your soule mission is
- 2:29to inspire to freedom. Please share with us your early path and how magic
- 2:34first graced your life. I had a very interesting childhood. I lived in
- 2:42a brown a building in Harlem, USA, New York, where there were
- 2:50four generations of my families. My mother was a single mom. She had
- 2:53me at nineteen. She brought me home to her parents' home and my father.
- 3:00My grandfather's mother and father lived upstairs from us, So I guess I
- 3:06was the fourth generation of these generations. And so I grew up with my
- 3:10mother, my grandmother's my great grandmother, and they were very witchy. They
- 3:16just didn't take us to doctors. They had a potion for everything. Most
- 3:23of the time. It was nasty. You know, you drank something,
- 3:27it had roots and shoots in the bottom of the cup. It was just
- 3:31very natural. The whole upbringing was very natural. I had a lot of
- 3:38interaction with spirits when I was very young, three four. I remember at
- 3:45three and four seeing spirits, never afraid. I thought it was normal and
- 3:49natural until about eight when my mother chose to be a Jehovah's witness. Now
- 3:58our family, even though they were somewhat Christian, they weren't fundamentalists. So
- 4:03this was a departure from the norm. And my mom went all in with
- 4:10Jehovah's witnesses, fundamentalist Christian It worked for her. She found her solace,
- 4:15she found her place, she had friends. A year later she got married
- 4:19to my dad, who raised me, and so things took an abrupt turn
- 4:26at that juncture. Because most fundamentalist Christian faiths do teach that if you see
- 4:31spirits, that's likely the Devil or one of his minions. And so that
- 4:39sort of when fear began to creep in of my supernatural experiences that I was
- 4:45having and that I was enjoying. Actually, well, not long after that,
- 4:49I closed my third eye. I hear a lot of other spiritual practitioners
- 4:56say that as well. So I kind of went sort of asleep. And
- 5:00then when I was twenty nine and I had just given birth to my second
- 5:08child, got married in my early twenties to another Jehovah's witness, did everything
- 5:12I was told as I was being raised in that faith, And when I
- 5:15was twenty nine, I had in intense dark night of the Soul experience and
- 5:23it lasted for seven years, and it was during the Saturn return that it
- 5:27began at about twenty eight or so. And the doctors told me, well,
- 5:32you must have postpartum depression because you just had baby, and I was
- 5:36having intense fear. And what I understood later that the younger me didn't know
- 5:44then, and what I grew to learn, was that my soul was pinned
- 5:48down, it was caged, and because I was so afraid to step out
- 5:58and do what I would feeling the longing to do. I was in a
- 6:03stuck sort of holding pattern, or at least I felt like I was,
- 6:09even though we never really stuck. We're still advancing yet, that's what it
- 6:13felt like. I was having and intense pulled toward the occult, and at
- 6:18the same time fear and paralysis of moving out of what I had been taught,
- 6:27what was familiar to me since I was eight years old. For the
- 6:30last couple of decades, well, the depression got so bad that I almost
- 6:34took myself out with a bottle of pills. I remember one day I was
- 6:39standing in front of the medicine cabinet and I pulled the door open and there
- 6:45was the bottle of eight hundred milligram motrin that they gave me for pain after
- 6:53I had the baby and the healing process, and I remember reaching towards the
- 6:57bottle and asking myself how many would it take to go to sleep and not
- 7:04wake up. I couldn't bring myself to say how many pills would it take
- 7:09to just take me out of this life? I just wanted to go to
- 7:14sleep and not wake up. Well, the thought frightened me because at that
- 7:21point I had the baby that I'd just given birth to and my son,
- 7:27my firstborn, who was a toddler. He was a little over two years
- 7:30old. And the thought that brought me back from the edge was Who's going
- 7:33to take care of my babies? And so I jerked my hand back from
- 7:39the cabinet, closed it. And that thought scared me. It scared me
- 7:45to see how close to the edge I was, and so and it also
- 7:49awakened something in me. So not too long after that, I was in
- 7:56bed and I heard the voice say get up, and it set straight up
- 8:01in the bed. It's almost like you hear this clarion call. Set up
- 8:05in the bed, and it said get dressed. And I thought, oh,
- 8:11my goodness, you know a depressed person. I'm laying there like Count
- 8:15Dracula or something in the dark with a you know, blinds closed and whatnot.
- 8:20I got up. I got dressed. That just felt like a gargan
- 8:24to an effort to get dressed. And it said go outside. The voice
- 8:30was leading me step by step. I went outside and it said look up.
- 8:35I looked up at the sky and then it said, breathe, Victor.
- 8:39I took a breath that was probably the first breath of my entire life,
- 8:46at almost thirty years old, and I wondered, have I been not
- 8:52breathing? And it said walk, and I began walking. And to this
- 8:58day, third some odd years later, I still have a practice going out
- 9:05looking up at this sky, taking in the fast blue expanse in my eye
- 9:13gays, breathing and walking, and from there I took off. So that's
- 9:20sort of how it all began. Please share with us about being an ordained
- 9:24minister of spiritual consciousness. As I progressed on my spiritual path, We're about
- 9:33maybe twelve fourteen, fifteen years. I have been reading books voraciously in Barnes
- 9:41and Noble, going to workshops, looking all over for anything I could find
- 9:46that would feed this spiritual calling in me. And I knew I was to
- 9:52teach. I knew I was to write. I've been a writer all my
- 9:56life. I write every day. Yet in the fundamentalist Christian experience I was
- 10:01in, it wasn't allowed to write and publish books pretty much. They only
- 10:09wanted us to read the publications that were created by the religion. So it
- 10:13didn't occur to me that I would be an author. Yet I wrote,
- 10:18I wrote, I wrote, I wrote poetry, I wrote essays. I
- 10:22wrote. Every time I got an opportunity, I was reading. I had
- 10:26my head in a book ever since I was a little kneehizo grasshopper, as
- 10:31they say, all my life in tranced by the word. It wasn't until
- 10:37later that I found out I was a word. Which while when I really
- 10:43went deeper into I've got to serve the world speaking and writing, I knew
- 10:50inside of me that I needed some kind of formalized training, some kind of
- 10:56complete curriculum that would help me with what I was doing, because up until
- 11:03then I had been putting it together sort of piecemeal, from workshops and this
- 11:07teacher and that teacher, and just going all over the place. And there
- 11:11is to be this big sort of magazine or newspaper in the Maryland, DC
- 11:16Virginia area. We call it the DMB, and it was called Pathways,
- 11:20and Pathways was a spiritual circular and it told you all of the spiritual happenings
- 11:28that were taking place all the metaphysical places. And I just made my rounds
- 11:31to all of them. And that's when I met Reverend Jim Webb at the
- 11:35Takoma Park Metaphysical Chapel and a Reverend Gym Webb. He was a graduate of
- 11:45the New Seminary and I just hit it off so well with Reverend Gym.
- 11:50Reverend Gym was my first in person metaphysical teacher on an ongoing basis, one
- 11:56that I could really deepen into with him and understand what was happening to me,
- 12:03what was the ministry that I was called to look like? And so
- 12:09as I kept going, I said Reverend Jim. You know, after I'd
- 12:11been at the Metaphysical Chapel for a couple of years, I said, Reverend
- 12:16Jim, there are three places that I could go that I need to get
- 12:20this formalized training. One was New Seminary in New York, where he had
- 12:24gone, and he was a graduate of New Seminary, and I just loved
- 12:28New Seminary, and I'm originally from New York, so that felt good.
- 12:31And there was another metaphysical preparatory, I guess he could say school that was
- 12:35a rown up Virginia. And there was Intervision's Institute for Spiritual Development founded by
- 12:41Reverend doctor Yama van sent And I asked Reverend Jim, what would he recommend
- 12:48for me. He knew me well, I trusted him. I trust him
- 12:50to this day. He's a wonderful, wonderful being, so warm, so
- 12:54loving, and he himself was a graduate of New Seminary and he was on
- 13:00the faculty at the other two institutions, so I knew he was a good
- 13:05person to ask because he was inside the curriculum of all three. He knew
- 13:09they're inner workings, and he said, well, if you go to Innervisions,
- 13:16you will do the deep work required within yourself to do what you are
- 13:24on the planet to do. And Reverend Jim is a powerful psychic and a
- 13:26medium, so I knew he could see what was going on with me and
- 13:31what would be the best fit for me. Not what would be the best
- 13:35school, they're all amazing, what would work best for me where I was,
- 13:41where I was going, what I was called to do, And so
- 13:46I took him up on it, and I went into the Intervisions Well.
- 13:50I originally enrolled to the two year program, which was an intensive personal development
- 13:56program and preparation to be a spiritual life coach. And after I completed the
- 14:01two years, they ask, if you would like to what is your intention
- 14:03for continuing education, and I knew I was called to be a minister and
- 14:09the program as a Minister of spiritual consciousness, and I knew that was what
- 14:13I was supposed to be doing. So I enrolled and continued and completed four
- 14:20years at Innervisions and was ordained as a Minister of Spiritual Consciousness. And all
- 14:26it really means is a person who helps people spiritualize their consciousness. And what
- 14:31is that. Well, on any given day, we have the choice between
- 14:35fear and love, or we have the choice between going with the lower mind,
- 14:39more egoic structures, or we could choose love, we could choose the
- 14:43higher path. And so really my job simply is to choose the higher path,
- 14:50which is love in everything and trust that and as much I can,
- 14:54as I can inspire others who want to do it to do the same.
- 15:00So in that walk, we simply spiritualize our consciousness more and more, and
- 15:07we dropped the condition patternings of maybe childhood or from school, or from religions
- 15:13or other things that maybe we're not the perfect fit for us, because love
- 15:18is the perfect fit for every being. You've got me in tears, oh,
- 15:28because your message is the same message that is ingrained in my heart and
- 15:33my soul, and we could be brother and sister. We are. We
- 15:37are brother and sister, no question about it. Thank you for sharing that
- 15:43beautiful, beautiful path. Before we discuss your brand new book, which Divine
- 15:50alignments with the primordial energies of magic and cycles of nature, let's talk about
- 15:56some of your other amazing books. There's a few titles that just jumped out
- 15:58of me. The first one is Spiritual Badassery. The Spiritual Badassery is one
- 16:06of my favorite books because it has in it several of the coping spiritual technologies.
- 16:12I will say, even beyond coping spiritual technologies, I used to come
- 16:18out of the dark Knight of the soul. So I spent many years in
- 16:23the dark Knight of the soul at one That first one lasted about seven years,
- 16:29and then I had another one later on in life, where Mom passed
- 16:32away, Divorce, custody questions, financial issues, all of this sort of
- 16:40like a maelstrom of events all hit it once, and it was very difficult
- 16:45to navigate for those three years. Yet I was more tooled spiritually and I
- 16:51knew what to do. Yet it didn't make it less challenging. Even where
- 16:56I was at the time. So I created, or I was given by
- 17:03the Divine Higher Self, methods and spiritual technologies that would lift me no matter
- 17:12where I am, no matter what I was experiencing, and I use them.
- 17:17I worked them. I worked them, I worked the breath, I
- 17:19worked meditation. I really plunged into my spiritual practices and they have been my
- 17:29rock of Gibraltar for decades. So in spiritual badassory, I share my most
- 17:38trusted, most tested, most worn out. If you could see these spiritual
- 17:45technologies, they would probably look like, you know, a tattered old blanket
- 17:48that you carry around is still works and still keeps you warm, and you
- 17:52know, really worn because I worked these and the work works if we work
- 17:57it. So I've decided to put them all in a book at mondolas and
- 18:03some coloring pages at journal pages. And that is spiritual badassery, and people
- 18:10tell me they love it. It was basically me getting out of the dark
- 18:14Knight of the soul. Steps to do that, ten specific steps that will
- 18:19get you out of any ditch. There are also technologies in there to stop
- 18:25being afraid and to make a leap to becoming a dragon writer. I call
- 18:30it so it is really a fun book spiritual badassory and one more souldasm h
- 18:40Soulgasm is daily meditations for a bliss filled life. And so each day you
- 18:47can read a quote and a word for the day you could call it,
- 18:55and a principle that can really set your mind right. This is more for
- 19:02people who like us snippet in the morning and not a whole dissertation. So
- 19:10if you want this a great snippet every morning, sol Orgasm is the book
- 19:14for you. What inspire the new book which the time for the Witch has
- 19:23come. She's here. She has been raising and her kind and calling us
- 19:32for decades. It has intensified. We see witch books bursting from all of
- 19:40the bookshelves in all the stores. More people than ever are intrigued by magic
- 19:47witchcraft. We want to know this, what these spiritual energies are. We
- 19:52want to remove the fear, the dread, and all of the misunderstanding from
- 20:03the witch so that we can meet her face to face, toe to toe
- 20:10and un learn. These students of the witch, this ancient archetype learned the
- 20:17time has come for us to return to healing from the earth Mother, because
- 20:22we have many ills. Now that are happening, and many of the ills
- 20:29people address them with pills. And there is a better way. There is
- 20:34a higher way, and nature has a way of healing us. And though
- 20:41I suffered through all those bitter tasting things my grandmother and grandmothers gave me as
- 20:48I was growing up, they did that because they know plants work, Nature
- 20:56works without the side events, and so it's time. The time of the
- 21:04witch is here the wisdom of Reverend Valerie Love her new book which Divine alignments
- 21:12with the primordial energies of magic and cycles of nature. Reverend Valve, please
- 21:18tell our listeners with it and get your books and find out more about you
- 21:21and your amazing work. Valorielove dot com and Valorie is spelled bea l R
- 21:27I E. And all the books are available on Amazon and Barnes and Noble
- 21:32where else Barnes and Noble, and some of them are available for sale on
- 21:36my website as well. And also what do you have on your website?
- 21:40And also tell us about your YouTube channel. On my website you'll see the
- 21:44books as well as classes. I love teaching classes on magic and money from
- 21:49my background as a financial advisor for seven years at American Express. So I
- 21:53love playing with Money, magic and on my YouTube channel each Magic, Money
- 22:00and Metaphysics, I've been doing that for over fourteen years to millions of viewers.
- 22:06I love it, love it, love it. I've met the most
- 22:08amazing people on YouTube ever, and also on the website. Are the retreats,
- 22:15Oh my goodness. We love our global retreats. We go all over
- 22:19the globe to really energetically charged hot spots like Sedona Bali, Thailand, Egypt.
- 22:32Will be leaving for our retreat in Egypt next week and on these retreats,
- 22:37these are beyond being a spiritual retreat, which we all know about spiritual
- 22:42retreats. We've probably been on a lot of spiritual retreats. We love spiritual
- 22:47retreats, I do anyway. We also do rituals. We honor the witch,
- 22:52so we do fire rituals, we do water rituals, rituals by the
- 22:56river, rituals by the ocean, so in all of the locations we do
- 23:00our magical practices. We do spell catcrafting and casting, and we do rituals.
- 23:07And engaging in rituals shifts the consciousness permanently, and so it's one of
- 23:15the most powerful, impotent ways that I've found to align with nature, the
- 23:22cycles of nature. So that's a big, big part of what I do
- 23:26is meeting people in person. I love it. And we always say in
- 23:32our global community, hey, we would love to see you, so we
- 23:33can hug your neck because we love hugs, and why not, because we
- 23:40can all use with a little nice hormonal rush that comes from hugging another human
- 23:48being, seeing and looking at another human being in the eyes, being seen
- 23:53and seeing who is there with you in the circle. It's just great blessing
- 24:00and We'll be back with more. Reverend Valerie Love after these words. On
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- 24:49Virginia two three five one zero back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this
- 25:03week Reverend Valorie Love her new book which Divine alignments with the primordial energies of
- 25:08magic and cycles of nature. Reverend Valve, how would you describe the witch?
- 25:17The witch is an ancient archetype, older than time. The witch is
- 25:26an emissary for the Goddess always show here, a healer, a teacher.
- 25:33So when you encounter witch in her physical form, because there's an energetic blueprint,
- 25:38which is the archetype for the witches that we see walking around on the
- 25:42planet, the physical and physical form, you are encountering a person who honors
- 25:51naturally the cycles of nature somehow before we know what to do. In full
- 26:00moon ritual, we're gazing up at the full moon. We're aligning our lives
- 26:04with this sign. We're awakening at the break of dawn. We are foraging
- 26:12in the woods, We're picking up sticks and stones. We're at the beach
- 26:18picking up beautiful seashells. So this is a person who innately male, female,
- 26:26or otherwise. This is a person who innately honors nature. And we
- 26:33have secular witches. We have witches that are more spiritual in nature, and
- 26:37so there is a connection with the all now secular, which may not call
- 26:42it God or spirit. It's the all, the all that we all are
- 26:48in and from which is also a person that will have many gifts psychic abilities,
- 26:56mediumship abilities, the whole I see dead people thaying right from the movie.
- 27:02And the ability to telepathically, clearly and intentionally telepathically communicate with other beings,
- 27:11the ability to connect with spirits, the ability to know what plant to
- 27:18use for which issue in the body, in the mind and in the spirit,
- 27:25or even the emotions of a person. A witch also is a person
- 27:32who understands healing and who loves to tend nature, keep nature. And it
- 27:40is also a person who's a teacher. Many witches are teachers, very profound
- 27:45teachers. So it really is time for us to get rid of the whole
- 27:52idea that has been sort of implanted in the consciousness of humanity. As this
- 27:57woman who's all, she's green, she has wards, she lives in a
- 28:03hut in the woods, now, Yeah, there are a lot of witches
- 28:06that have cuts in the woods. None of them are green. You know,
- 28:11most of us don't have warts, and most of us are actively participating
- 28:18in the great healing and awakening that it is going on on the planet now.
- 28:23I believe that there are many witches called now because humanity is in this
- 28:29incredible awakening. Many have been called as witches and are answering the call.
- 28:36Why do you think that's so important? Especially today? That's really important,
- 28:40isn't it? It is so important. Humanity is on a precipice now.
- 28:45The Mayan's told us many years ago. And I have a home in Mexico
- 28:52and the Yucatan, and I live among many many many Mayan people, so
- 28:57not far from where I live, as Chichenitza ancient city, and also Uchmal
- 29:03and many other ancient cities. And the Mind were such a fascinating, fascinating
- 29:07culture, and they have a different way of keeping time, and according to
- 29:11the Mind calendar. We kind of all know that twenty twelve was that point
- 29:18where they said, hey, humanity has got to make a choice. Either
- 29:22we're going to choose to go up to ascend or we're just going to take
- 29:27ourselves out now the planet will still be here. Well, we will not
- 29:32be able to survive if we don't change our ways. And so humanity chose
- 29:40to ascend. We made the collective decision to clean up our act and to
- 29:47ascend. Now. It doesn't mean that every single person does that every single
- 29:51day, it's all good. Collectively, we've said, let's have this spiritual
- 29:56awakening, and even people who are atheists can have a spiritual awakening, because
- 30:03when we're referring to spirituality, it's different for every person. For some people
- 30:10it could simply be the experience of all when they look at a sunrise or
- 30:15a sunset at MAUI who's not awed by that? And that is a spiritual
- 30:18experience? Or seeing a child born, your childborn for the first time that
- 30:25is, or any time each time I have three children, so each time
- 30:29they were born, that was a deeply moving spiritual experience. So regardless of
- 30:33our belief systems, or if we're atheists or agnostic, we're Christian or Catholic
- 30:41or Protestant or Islamic, or all of the faith walks and all of the
- 30:45choices that we have as human beings, collectively, we have chosen to ascend
- 30:52our consciousness. We've chosen to evolve and go further and higher than where we
- 30:59were. We've chosen to think differently. And so because there's this great awakening
- 31:03going on on the planet, there are so many of us souls like you,
- 31:08Victor, your partner, and many others who chose to come in at
- 31:15this time. And we knew when we came in, according to the birthdates
- 31:22that we had, that we would be of an age of wisdom at this
- 31:27juncture, so that we could add to the global awakening. So there are
- 31:32many what I call keepers of the flame who have awakened, and they are
- 31:38spanning the flames of this global ascension and enlightenment. And the witch is right
- 31:45there solidly in that group, rising up witches who are the healers, the
- 31:52root workers, the teachers, the ones who say return to the ancient ways
- 31:57of healing. We healed our cells. We didn't need outside entities to heal
- 32:02us. This is what is going on on the planet now from my perspective,
- 32:07from what I can see, and I've been on this planet a little
- 32:10over sixty decades, and I can tell you it is very different from when
- 32:15I was a little girl in the sixties. Absolutely, I've been seven days
- 32:20and except different. But here's something, here's something that comes to mind for
- 32:27me. You had mentioned the New Seminary, and I was a graduate,
- 32:29as you know, is we discussed before the New Seminary in the nineteen nineties.
- 32:32And one of the things that I learned in the New Seminary, and
- 32:36by the way, some of my classmates were witches at the time, was
- 32:39that if you look at the every faith and every religion and every belief system,
- 32:45at their foundation is an iteration of what we call the Golden rule,
- 32:50doing to others as you would have them doing to you, love thy neighbor
- 32:52as thyself. If everyone practiced that that basic message, what a world this
- 32:57would be? Yes, healed and instant. And that's really what's about.
- 33:04It's about looking at each other as sisters and brothers and loving one another and
- 33:07caring for one another. And if we all did that, if everyone did
- 33:10that, we would have heaven on earth. Literally. Yes, I think
- 33:16we can do it. I know we can do it. I believe you're
- 33:20right. I believe you're right. I feel it myself. So why do
- 33:23you think there was such fear of witches, especially back three hundred years ago
- 33:29and the burning of which is and the time of burning? Why was that
- 33:32fear there? Power? Humans can fear power. We have a tendency to
- 33:39fear things we do not understand. I've seen which is called down hail from
- 33:45a sunny sky, so I know that that's real. I've seen witches talk
- 33:52to spirits. I've seen them open portals to the dead and people come over
- 33:57to commune with us, and then they go back and the witch goes is
- 34:00the portal. There are many things that witches are doing that could be fear
- 34:06inducing, and rather than succumb to fear, our generation has chose to learn.
- 34:15So when presented with something that we don't understand, we've never seen before,
- 34:19it's outside of our current paradigm, and it's especially outside of the paradigm
- 34:24of what we would call normal. So we're now in the realm of the
- 34:29supernatural. And everyone who has had supernatural experiences we know when we have them,
- 34:35that's one thing, and it touches us so deeply that it causes us
- 34:39to think and contemplate and go beyond our rigidity and thought patterns, if we
- 34:46had any, it causes us to see things differently. They really change us.
- 34:52So whitches are very used to phenomena. I would say things that seem
- 34:59like they shouldn't happen in this world, things that seemed like they defy the
- 35:02laws of nature. And really there can be nothing that can defy the laws
- 35:07of nature, because as we know the Great Yes She has said that a
- 35:12house divided against itself cannot stand. So somehow there are forces that we just
- 35:19haven't discovered yet or we don't know much about them. And so later science
- 35:25would tell us about quantum entanglement, science would tell us about physics. We
- 35:32would discover more so that we could expand the realm of what's possible. We
- 35:38didn't know that we were even seeing just the tiniest liver of the entire light
- 35:43spectrum. We think what we see is all, and it's quite tiny what
- 35:49we are perceiving with our five senses. So we get to go beyond the
- 35:53five senses, and there are always people who are willing to do that,
- 35:57And then there are many people in the mass consciousness. If the mass consciousness
- 36:01more rooted in fear, there's going to be a resistance to going into realms
- 36:08occult regions, which occult simply means hidden. It's nothing scary. It's almost
- 36:15like a child that doesn't want to go to sleep because there's a monster under
- 36:20the bed, only because there's a dark space under the bed. So we
- 36:24get to be spiritually mature and understand there's no monster under the bed, that
- 36:32us going beyond our five senses is very natural, and that according to the
- 36:37Cobbalis we are ninety nine percent of all reality is not ascertained or perceived by
- 36:43the five senses. We're only perceiving one percent. The witch lives in the
- 36:47ninety nine percent beyond the physical, even though she has a foothold in the
- 36:52physical, as do Shamans. Shamans operate beyond the one percent world that can
- 36:59be a certained by the one by the physical five physical senses. And so
- 37:05this fear, we've turned it too curiosity, and with that as the waning
- 37:13of it, we realized maybe we shouldn't just continue killing people, maybe there's
- 37:19a better way. Absolutely, you are a Christian, which some might say
- 37:24that those terms are mutually exclusive, Please explain, Yes, I'm Christian in
- 37:31that Christian for me is a spiritual path, not a religion, and that
- 37:37Christ didn't plan to start a religion, there was quite a rebel rouser and
- 37:44some aspects because he kind of riled up some of the people that were really
- 37:49deeply intransient religion yet did not have the spirit of the law. And Christ
- 37:57himself was a magician, a wonder worker. Back in the first century or
- 38:02so, there was a whole group of Jewish mystics called the enche my Asset,
- 38:08who were wonder workers. They could call down rain from the heavens,
- 38:14they could stay storms, they could multiply bread and food seemingly miraculously. Now,
- 38:24I do not think any of these things is in defiance of the laws
- 38:29of nature. And I do not think that any of these things are things
- 38:34that anyone and everyone couldn't do if they learned how to do it. So
- 38:38because he learned how to do it, he was trained in the mystery schools
- 38:42of Egypt. He was in a lineage of rabbis that were highly gifted.
- 38:51And it's a fascinating concept that humans do what they think they can do.
- 38:58So no one ran a four second mile because no one thought we could run
- 39:01a four a second mile until someone did it, and then that expanded us
- 39:06into oh, people can run four second miles. And then people do it
- 39:08more and more and more. Well, the same thing happens with staying a
- 39:15storm are calling down heaven, but a hailstorm from heaven or rain from heaven.
- 39:22Now we are the same energy that is the cloud, and there's a
- 39:25sympathy there, there's a correspondence. So why wouldn't we be able to do
- 39:30it? There's no reason why any of us couldn't do it. It's that
- 39:34many of us don't think these things are possible, and consequently we're just not
- 39:45able to do them because can we go beyond what our consciousness will allow?
- 39:49We cannot. Absolutely. In your book you talk about the witches code.
- 39:53What is the Witch's code? While we operate by a code, and many
- 40:00people may not be aware that there is sort of a witch's code to know
- 40:06to day or to will and to be silent, to know means and it
- 40:09sort of looks like a pyramid. So if anyone looked it up in their
- 40:15favorite browser, the Witch's Code or the Witch's Pyramid, they'd be able to
- 40:17see a visual of it. Since this is an audio format, if it
- 40:22will be helpful. So to know means to know who you are, to
- 40:29know your craft, to know nature, to know astrology, numerology, tarot,
- 40:34divination, whatever you're called to, to know, crystals, to know,
- 40:38because if we don't know who we are, where can we go?
- 40:43What can we do to know? To will will for me means to have
- 40:51courage, to be daring, to go beyond our five senses, to go
- 40:55look under the bed and see that there's no monster there. A witch has
- 41:00to will, It has to be courageous, has to be initiated from within.
- 41:09To dare means that you dare to do things that other people don't do.
- 41:15And to keep silent means that we don't talk about publicly all the things
- 41:22that we do. Because there are spells, there are traditions, there are
- 41:30initiatory practices that it would be irresponsible to share publicly because it requires years of
- 41:39preparation and study, many times mentorship with other witches and practitioners. And so
- 41:49the occult schools and the mystery schools knew that they didn't share this information everywhere.
- 41:55It was shared from teacher to apprentice. It was shared in circles and
- 42:00in the mystery schools, and the mystery schools still operate that way to this
- 42:06day. Her book is entitled which divine alignments and the primordial energies of magic
- 42:13and cycles of nature. Will be back with more with Reverend Valerie Love after
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- 44:52Unlimited, my guest this week is Reverend Valerie Love or Book which divine alignments
- 44:58with the primordial energy of magic and cycles of nature. Reverend Value, you
- 45:04have some wonderful contributors who join you in this wonderful effort in your book.
- 45:07Tell us about a few of those. Please, Oh my goodness, the
- 45:10sacred storytellers in this book have blown me away. So the structure of the
- 45:19book is that Part one is more about understanding the witch, and that's where
- 45:23I share my understanding, my experience of the witch. Then Part two are
- 45:30over a dozen sacred stories about witches who've been having these very interesting, I
- 45:39could say, experiences about the planet. And Part three is the ritual practices.
- 45:46And we offer rituals in part three where you can actually get in there
- 45:52and engage with the witch if you're so inclined, if you're inspired or led.
- 45:58Well, the sacred storyteller is one of them. Is I See the
- 46:01medium also known as ic Kendrick. Her name is also in the cover.
- 46:07And I See is the witch that I spoke of who was able to call
- 46:10down hail from the skies in Sodona. Now I witnessed this along and supple
- 46:16of other people on a sunny day, and it really helped me to understand
- 46:21why people were in such fear as we spoke of a few moments ago,
- 46:25because they just couldn't handle that kind of information. The nervous system is not
- 46:32prepared to handle that kind of information and the consciousness it can be alarming,
- 46:37it can be concerning or disturbing. We didn't have that experience. We were
- 46:42elated, we were thankful, and she got the answers that she went for.
- 46:46This was at the Ama Taba Stupa and Peace Park in Sidona. It's
- 46:53one of our favorite places to go. And there is a medicine wheel there,
- 46:58and I will add that the medicine wheel still had the flowers on it
- 47:02from an earlier ritual, most likely by the First Nations or the natives of
- 47:09that area. And whenever that happens, the energy is charged and there is
- 47:15a pulsing. There is a space created where the supernatural can occur and without
- 47:27much difficulty. Well, I see as a powerful witch and right there in
- 47:34that circle in the medicine wheel, she had this experience of pale so she
- 47:40teaches about that in her story. There is also a witch in there that
- 47:44I love. His name is Coulton. He is a Christian which as well
- 47:51he is practices Bible magic and folk magic from the Appalachian Mountains and he is
- 47:58one of my favorite which is on the planet. He talks about his struggle
- 48:02between being a Christian, feeling called to magic, knowing that he's a folk
- 48:08hell folk magic practitioner, a healer, wanting to be in the choir,
- 48:15wanting to love God, and also knowing that he was gay and wondering is
- 48:22he going to have the judgment of God or is he going to be judged
- 48:27because he's a witch. So, you know, he really draws you into
- 48:30his story of how the inner turmoil was for him and how he arose,
- 48:40how did he rise from that so that he's in a very integrated, soul
- 48:49fulfilling path as a Christian witch. We have another one who encountered slaves and
- 48:55portugals, spirits of slaves that were still in a prison where slaves were kept
- 49:04during the Middle Passage, and she was able to free those souls. We
- 49:07have another witch who was called to a reservation where she was able to help
- 49:16a boy who was almost at the edge. She was actually at the edge
- 49:21of death. And many witches are at the crossroads where people enter. So
- 49:30births, so we find many witches that are of midwives and deaths, so
- 49:35we find many witches that can either pull a person back from the dead or
- 49:37that help people go over to the dead, depending on what their soul is
- 49:42choosing to do. And his soul wasn't ready to go out yet, this
- 49:46little guy, and she got out of her medicine pat her medicine bag,
- 49:52and she worked her herbs for roots, and she worked her energy, and
- 49:57she worked her words or incantation. So that stories in there, there's so
- 50:01many stories in there. They are Some of them are funny, some are
- 50:07powerful, stories of synchronicity, finding wands. One story of me being called
- 50:15out by a six year old who pointed at me and said you're a witch,
- 50:17and his mother was horrified. That's when I was still a witch in
- 50:23hiding, and I thought, how did this six year old just out me?
- 50:27Like how did that happen? I thought I had everything really buttoned up
- 50:30and hidden, but you we no children, And so the stories are incredible.
- 50:35And you had mentioned the last segment of the book being about rituals.
- 50:38You mentioned the ritual of the dumb Supper, what is that? That is
- 50:44actually a meal eaten with people who have crossed over, So also have crossed
- 50:49over in complete silence. So back in the day people would call people who
- 50:53were mute dumb, hence the name dumb supper. I call it beast of
- 50:59the dead, just so that we don't insult anyone. So this dumb supper,
- 51:05that's the traditional name of it, is called the dumb supper. So
- 51:08we eat a supper that we have prepared in silence with the spirits of those
- 51:15who have crossed over that we choose to welcome and invite in. And it's
- 51:17entire ritual. And I've conducted the ritual many times. I love it,
- 51:22and I offer it for anyone who would love to have a meal with their
- 51:27crossed over loved ones. And you also share the rituals of light and shadow?
- 51:31What are those about? The ritual of light and shadow is about determining,
- 51:37determining what really is in the shadow that needs to be released and leaping
- 51:43into a new spiritual identity. And so when we can counter darkness within ourselves,
- 51:49if we free up what's been lurking in the shadows, we free up
- 51:53immense creative energy. And so if we'd like to be free from some of
- 52:00our shadow issues that keep recurring in our lives. This is a great ritual
- 52:08to do, and it is a ritual that will enable a person to more
- 52:15embrace their light side while not running from or avoiding the shadow. Because which
- 52:22is working light and dark? We like both, We love both, and
- 52:27just like the Yin yang symbol, if we balance those light and dark energies,
- 52:31as the equinoxes teach us to do every equinox as we're going to have
- 52:36an equinox coming up in September and the fall, and we have a spring
- 52:38equinox, it's a complete balance. It is the perfect equal of day hours
- 52:47and night hours that happens twice a year. So it shows us the ideal.
- 52:52It shows us that we want to have a harmonizing of the light and
- 53:00the dark. Many of our listeners have engaged or had mystical experiences. Why
- 53:07are our mystical stories so important? When we have a mystical experience and this
- 53:15was happening to me, I felt weird. I felt like the odd person
- 53:22out. I looked around me and I saw a lot of Christian people,
- 53:24beautiful people, wonderful people. They loved me. They couldn't understand what I
- 53:30was talking about, nor could they help me in the unfolding of my gifts
- 53:35that were awakening and spelling out by me saying things that were going to happen,
- 53:40and then they happened. Then people looked at me in fear like how
- 53:44did you know that? And what's going on? And they couldn't help me,
- 53:49even though they loved me. So, if you continue to have mystical
- 53:57experiences and you were surrounded by people who don't quite get it, who are
- 54:04like, okay, well I love you, so hey, whatever, are
- 54:09not able to fan your flames so that you go high or have more mystical
- 54:15experiences, say yes, you're on the path. It's great to pick up
- 54:20a book and say, oh, my goodness, I'm thinking that exact same
- 54:23thing. Or I see dead people, or I looked at a leaf the
- 54:28other day and just started bawling, crying. You know how you're having a
- 54:30mystical experience. You just look at a leaf and all of a sudden you're
- 54:34just overcome and just bawling. These mystical experiences are happening to all of us,
- 54:40and when we share them, it takes the weirdness out. It takes
- 54:45that I'm alone out. We're together in this thing. We're all rising and
- 54:49we're all having interesting things happen, and we get to embrace that the wisdom
- 54:54of Reverend Valerie Love her new book which divine a line mints with the primordial
- 55:00energies of magic and cycles of nature. Reverend Beal one more time, please
- 55:05share with our listeners where they can get your books and find out more about
- 55:07you and your amazing work. Valerielove dot com and the YouTube channel is at
- 55:14Valerie loovetv dot com. And what events are taking place for you right now?
- 55:20Coming up? We have this Fall Equinouts which will be taking place on
- 55:24September twenty second this year, and we'll be doing that ritual in Egypt.
- 55:29We have the Winter Solstice, we'll be doing that ritual in Miami. We
- 55:32have this Spring Equinos in twenty twenty four. That event we'll be taking place
- 55:37in Peru with Mother Ayahuasca and at Tama Scale which is the Sweat Lodge.
- 55:42And then next year we'll on the lions Gate. We'll be departing to go
- 55:45to Bali, Thailand, India and China to hot spots all over those regions.
- 55:52And the ensuing rituals as well. So we've got a lot coming up,
- 55:55and we've done a lot, and we're doing even more. Rinval,
- 56:00my gratitude to you for joining us and sharing this wonderful wisdom and experience.
- 56:05Thank you, Thank you so much, Victor. It's been a stimulating conversation
- 56:09and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor the Voice Ferman.
- 56:15Have a wonderful week.