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Ep.303 'Therapy Show Speaker Spotlight' with special guest Mike James 'The Endurance Physio' · The STA Clinician Podcast

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You're listening to the STA Clinician Podcast, connecting clinicians across healthcare.
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Hey people, how are you doing? Welcome to episode 303 of the STA Clinician Podcast,
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formerly known as the Sports Therapy Association Podcast.
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I'm your host as always, Matt Phillips, and this episode is being recorded live
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on the Sports Therapy Association YouTube channel and Facebook page at eight
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o'clock UK time on a Tuesday.
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So, seven weeks to go until Therapy Show, formerly known as Therapy Expo,
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returns to the NEC Birmingham on Wednesday the 25th and Thursday 26th of November this year.
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I don't want to be responsible for creating kind of FOMO, fear of missing out
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for those of you a little bit older. And if you can't make it, then I'm,
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Christian Podcast. They're going to be putting the spotlight on some speakers
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who have been gracious enough to come along and tell us about their own presentations
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this year and what they think of the show.
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And very shortly, to my great delight, I'm going to have one of my favorite
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speakers there, Mike James Endurance Physio.
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He's going to be with us, always a massively popular speaker.
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And it's lovely talking to Mike because he's been there for so many years and
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he's seen the change. He's been involved in the change, being on the different
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advisory boards and things. So it's a great chance to have a chat about the
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show and also what he's up to.
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So that's going to be happening very shortly for those of you don't understand
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what therapy expo therapy show is basically it's still the biggest,
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kind of multidisciplinary conference in the uk and
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it's is at the nec birmingham last year there was a couple of thousand delegates
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this year looks like there could be more 3 000 and they're over the two days
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there's like about 100 speakers 150 cpd sessions
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there's loads of exhibitors about 150 and even more i think this year,
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and this year ever since the rebrand, it promises to be even bigger and better.
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We had the team on not long ago and they're really trying to turn it into an
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experience rather than just to go there and talk, talk, talk,
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talk, go home more than I just experienced.
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It's got to be more of a lifestyle thing where people can chat,
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network, get active and that sort of stuff. So yeah, very shortly,
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I'll be talking to Mike about that.
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Before that, as always, I have to say thank you because we're every week.
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I hate the idea of, I have such great guests and I love them so much and I hate
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the idea that they just disappear.
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So I always make a point of saying thank you to my guests from the previous
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week and hopefully that will make you have a listen. It was,
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the title was Sepsis, The Critical Care Journey and Post-Intensive Care Syndrome.
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Amazing episode. The last two have been great.
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And this particular episode, I was joined by Alana Forrester.
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Who's clinical nurse lead for critical care outreach. And Alana gave us a fantastic
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episode explaining sepsis, its acute signs, the life-changing impacts of critical illness in general.
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And Alana discusses why early recognition and timely treatment matter
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and what vital parts soft tissue therapists can play in helping refer on and
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identify and also just make the lives so much better of people who have been
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through critical care, come out of intensive care,
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with our touch with our conversation with being there with having a little bit
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of information of knowing what they're going through and just the empathic experts
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that a lot of soft tissue therapists tend to be so,
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really cool episode such a good cpd at its finest something you probably don't
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know much about but with the incidence
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of sepsis and critical care or the post-intensive care syndrome in the uk then
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it's something you should know about and it can make such a difference to how
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you can help people if you just know a little bit about it.
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So yeah catch it as always on uh any popular podcast app or if you want to watch
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the video there's a couple of,
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good shots in there of mnemonics of how to remember if some or how to see if
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somebody is suffering from sepsis and whether you should go to 24 uh when you
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should go to a and e and that so you might want to watch it on youtube as well
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um if you do watch it and do please leave a review and a rating just to help
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it get out to more people no one charges for this and none of our guests do
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it for money so it's just they just want to get the good word out there so please
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if you enjoy it do your bit and leave a rating review,
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right then that's it tonight's episode the first of six therapy show speaker
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spotlights let's bring up my special guest mike james the endurance physio.
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Hey Mike James, how are you doing? Hello, are you okay? We laughed before,
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but yeah, it's been a year, isn't it?
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We're both dads, we're both professionals, life happens, doesn't it?
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Is it a bad reflection on us that we only speak once a year,
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or more or less, or is it just life? Well, it's probably a good thing,
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it's probably a safe thing for the rest of the world, that they only put us together now and again.
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Mind you, I should feel guilty, because I was down in Cardiff,
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wasn't that long ago, with Orla Adams, who's one of the speakers,
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and you kind of did hit me up and said, why didn't you message me?
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I am Mr. Cardiff, why did you not? And I should have done.
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So yeah it was it was the review of last year's show was the last yes that's
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when you were last on as well december but we're getting review this time,
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we are we're getting all prospective army instead of retrospective which i hear
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is quite good that's it's better isn't it so yeah that's what we're gonna do
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tonight and like i said in the intro it's so cool because,
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you've been there you've been there quite a few years haven't you you've been
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there speaking and you've been chairing and you've been part of the advisory
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board do you keep a tab do you know how many years now you've been involved in it.
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I'm not sure i missed one to be honest there you go that's a good one smack
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when and and i think one of the one of the things that of all the conferences
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i attend of all the ones i'm fortunate enough and lucky enough to speak at,
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it's the one that holds a special place in my heart because i've done the full
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circle you know i was the paying my money sitting in the front row dreaming
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one day i could be on as good as or one day be able to be on the stage as someone who was there,
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and i was lucky enough to do that and that's evolved into chair in theatres
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for the last five or six years and then being on the advisory board so it is one that i really feel,
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attached to that's so cool and again so modest and it's so nice recognizing
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that that you were there watching people back in 2000 whenever it was 2013 started
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in manchester 14 was in manchester and then it moved to the birmingham and it's been there ever since,
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with the weird code if year off and then coming in after covid which was so
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strange wasn't it where we were actually so bizarre that year, but here we are.
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Yeah. And by the time we get to this year in November.
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The STA podcast will be at episode 309, which is just a few weeks short of six
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years. So it's pretty incredible.
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But yeah, it's a timeline, isn't it? And it's amazing. I'm going to ask you
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later on how you've seen it evolve. But you kind of said it's got a special
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place in your heart because of that.
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Is there any other thing about it or the way you've seen it grow,
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which would make you recommend it to other people to go along to?
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Other MSK professionals? Yeah, I think that all of us who try to sell the gospel
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according to the right way to do things,
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one of the things we're always doing is chatting about reflection,
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about evolution, about sort of critical thinking and self-reflection on yourself.
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And I think whether by hook or crook or design, that's what Therapy Expo,
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now Therapy Show, has always done.
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You know why why you know it's a decade and a half it's since we first started and
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clinically the things i was looking for as a therapist that i thought was what
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i needed was full of it back then i genuinely think now if you if you were this
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year's offering was the syllabus and program of the first year i wouldn't go,
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i have no interest in going to that anymore i'm not the same human i'm not the
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same therapist i was 14 15 years ago,
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so the the thing that it's done really well over its lifetime is it's evolved
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and it's it's regenerated itself and it was,
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and that's been a slow gradual process sometimes we've had to rip the plaster
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off sometimes it's naturally i think certainly this year from last year feels
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like quite a smooth transition i know all of those involved will say it's been
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nothing but nothing but smooth but,
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but certainly it it feels like that's the development side of it it's what's
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what we're telling therapists to do and it's done it itself.
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Good stuff yeah nice summary it has been a pleasure to be involved in and like
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you say yeah sometimes things haven't quite worked but they have i will say
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they do they have kind of listened to people haven't they particularly the last four years or so,
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they've said right what you do guys and that's kind of showing now because we've
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got quite a lineup this year there's quite a few people coming in which we'll
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look at later on but it's um is it has turned into quite a who's who now which is,
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uh i remember sitting i was sitting in my front garden taking a phone call as
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we are down in the valleys here there's there's only certain pieces of the house
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where you've got a window or lean over a fence to get signal
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and i was leaning over the gate of the fence in the front garden because liam
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had requested a call probably as you say five maybe six years ago now.
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And um he raised this idea of this advisory board and and i thought it was a
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brilliant idea it was something i was more than happy to get involved with but i'll be,
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more than honest to say i was skeptical i was cynical i didn't know how much
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we're going to be able to change was this a talking gesture thing was it something,
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that there'd be a utopian clinical sort of thing we were looking for but the
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business side would have a have a roadblock on it and and there's been bumps
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and stuff but it's been nothing but positive and i think the,
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the half a dozen of us who perhaps are still involved from the outset and all
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the people who've come or gone and joint senses that they're like genuinely,
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it is not a million miles away from where i personally hoped it would be at
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this stage And, you know, we know that the organizers, they rotate roles,
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they change things, different people come in.
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So for them to keep that continuity and trust us and back us to listen to the
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things we've said, and of course, we've got to compromise on a few things too.
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It's been amazing to see that it has done what we wanted it to do.
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And hopefully, by the fact it's still going, is doing what they needed to do as a business as well.
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Just imagining we had Charlotte who's now show manager yeah
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on not well not long ago and her passion is so infectious she's so into it she
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really is that kind of perfect mid-management where she talks to all of us she
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knows what we want she knows what the people above want which isn't always the
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same because obviously they're the ones who make it viable and,
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and she's that middle person who's so important in any business but yeah she
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she will I know she will so love to hear what you're saying because it's her
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dream it really is her baby and,
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this year with the with the change in brand.
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It really kind of represents where she's been given a little bit more free reign
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with the idea of turning it into more of an experience of two days where you
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don't just go and see talk after talk after talk. That's the idea.
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Is there anything that you know about the rebranding and anything which you're
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looking forward to this year? The fact now it's called therapy show instead of.
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For an expert i think all of those you know i think the change in the name and
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i haven't really scratched the
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surface too much to see what the actual thinking was behind that but but,
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you know it's probably something that's fitting with the change in the direction
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of the show itself you know we,
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we i remember sitting in advisory boards it was normally me being quite loud
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bringing these things up as well sometimes but the same things about meet the
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speakers being able to have more contact time with people and and it was you
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just had a big smile good idea make a note it was always followed up with a
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let's chat about that a bit more let's let's develop that idea and,
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and you knew that even if something ever became well we can't run with that
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now even though we like it was it was given its due care and attention and its
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time and and respected and,
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and most of so so i think rather than there being one thing in the evolution
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or the change of it i'm looking just it's the feel of it i'm looking forward
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to i'm keen to see as you said that that first year post covid,
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most of us we've been multiple times we're going this just feels different that
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was the word we were we commented sometimes about the sound and the curtains
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and the layout and stuff but,
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but the overarching thing was it felt different in a negative way and i'm hoping
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that this year feels positive in a different way now it just it just goes ah
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this just feels comfortable.
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Yeah me too i'm getting all excited now i think something i'm something i'm
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super excited about on a selfish level is for i think it's about four years
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now i've chaired a theater for both days,
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one of the things i always enjoyed chairing was was i could just get to sit
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in the back and listen to a room full of speakers and they were normally people
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i really wanted to listen to and they were subjects that i was really interested
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in or would not get a chance to listen to in other forums,
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and as this thing's developed and as this beast has become more of what we wanted
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it to across the board i've actually sat in the theater some days going i'd
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rather be listening to that one over there,
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so this year to only be chairing for one day on the wednesday is actually lovely
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because now i go right i can bugger off and listen and see and meet and chat
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and do things that i've missed out on for a few years so oh that's really cool
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and you'll have a great time because that happened to me,
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last year which was the first year we didn't have the sta theater which meant that suddenly i was free,
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to be me and walk around and chat to people oh you're gonna have such a great
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day on day two then it's so
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different when you haven't got the you're not looking at your watch your priorities
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oh you'll have a great well i was i was what i've been doing is i would set the speaker off
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listen to five minutes try and grab 10 minutes catching up with something or
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seeing something nip quickly back in the curtain make sure i'm on track for
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the next speaker and it's a lovely day i love i love doing the chairing,
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but but yeah i am looking forward to,
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taking off the microphone and not be britney spears for the day and doing something else.
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That's really cool and it's useful because you'll be able to give even better
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feedback because you really will see it as the audience see it rather than a
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chair or somebody who's like,
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you know there and that sort of capacity how exciting right well look i just
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want to remind people if you have joined us live and you've got any questions
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for mike james and feel free to put them in the chat and then i can bring it up on the screen
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or if you've got any questions obviously we don't know everything about therapy
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show and what's going to happen this year we know quite a lot between us so
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if you've got any questions,
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then feel free to put them in the chat as well if I don't hear from you then
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that's fine we'll just crack on with what we got planned,
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but yeah what I really like to do now is have a little look at what you are
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presenting this year so we'll bring them up here if you listen to podcasts and
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all I've done is I've just put a screenshot,
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on the screen so if you want to see it go to YouTube so yeah let's um so yeah
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day two is when your talks are the first one 11 50 a.m in the clinical skills
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lab they've got some great different very,
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theaters this year which really purpose made so,
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we'll have a look at the other people in the clinical schools later on but yeah
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you're there 11 50 with just read it out for people on the podcast how do i
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know my patient is ready to run again simple tests that build confidence and trust.
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How, for someone of your wealth of experience and the number of times you've
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done this and all the different talks you could do, any particular reason for
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this one or why you thought this year that would go down well?
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So my overarching thought process, whenever I'm asked to speak anywhere,
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is always really simple.
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What can I show someone that they can use tomorrow with the next patient?
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That's as deep as I ever get with it.
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And I think Therapy Show is the perfect platform for that type of talk.
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That's the with a cross-section of therapists to come in that's what they want and.
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This i guess is a sort of it's a common theme or question when i do my one or
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two day sort of resilient runner course teachings,
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is like well how can you just give me a snapshot i've got a little clinic i
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don't have a lot of equipment i don't have fancy video analysis i don't have
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expensive strength force platform testing type stuff,
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what can i do when i know and it's the gap that i always think People are getting,
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we're getting much, much better as an industry at learning how to assess running injuries.
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We understand running injuries much better.
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We're probably quite good at treating them now. We could probably be better,
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but you know, even if you just take something like bone stress injuries,
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we're so much more aware of those than we used to be.
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Tendinopathies, I think most of us can do with our eyes shut.
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But the bit I still think we always have a gap on is,
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well, they're ready to you know it's not a dip of toe in the water anymore that's
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which which was still the common thing well they're not in any pain they're
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fine in clinic let's send them for a run and see see how so
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so that's the thinking behind it and what we do is we look at sort of a battery
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of little tests and we we explain that they're not for everyone
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but this is what this test might be doing and it's basically single leg work
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double leg work hopping skipping jumping that type of stuff
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and they're very quick easy and simple tests to administer with any runner you
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just dip in and out and chew the ones that are appropriate for the person at the time and.
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We go through the reasoning of, you know, we're not just doing this with everyone.
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This is what it means. This is what we're trying to test. This is what conditions
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this would work better for.
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And then if those are successful, you have a bit more of a system and a bit
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more of a confidence in how I then can say, yeah, green light,
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let's try starting to run again. So hopefully when they start running again, they stay running.
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So that's the thinking behind it.
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I now have to work out how to get that into 25 minutes and finally.
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It's true it sounds like there's gonna be loads of people wanting to ask questions
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but i guess this is where i've talked to charlotte,
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and keanu last time they're really trying to make these speaker question kind
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of little 10 things which i've got this in my mind they've got them all lined
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up next to each other so you can go there and for the speakers who have got
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time you can go and ask them so it sounds like if you're able to do that then,
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you'll have quite a queue of people yeah and that because that's the that's
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one of the you saying about the insights of being the chair,
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one of my roles as the chair over the last few years has been to try and kick
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people out of the theater and not stand around asking the speaker questions
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and yet i know that they've got brilliant access to brilliant speakers who can
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answer questions that they really need
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and i've hated going oh can you just go outside and ask please,
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and and i've often felt sorry for the delegates and the speakers so it'd be
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lovely now to go right cool i'll just be outside for five minute and we can
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chat as much as you want you know i'm like i'm not a hard man to bribe a latte and i'm y'all,
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you can have you can have the rest of my day if someone buys me a latte so this
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is good people are going to remember this.
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I'm so i'm so excited to see you and watch you on on day two it's gonna be so
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nice for you to have that freedom,
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cool yes so no really really that's gonna be a great talk and obviously,
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it'll suit anybody who currently works with runners or maybe is interested to
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work with runners and then you've got the whole triathletes as well haven't
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it it's anybody who works with anybody
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and i suppose a lot of them will cross over to anybody who runs in any sport
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anybody whether they're going in a straight line or zigzagging there's going
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to be adaptions isn't there i guess so anyone that has to change direction or
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go in a straight line particularly sagittal plane type stuff you know and i
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guess even even if the tests,
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themselves aren't directly correlated to you and the populations you work what i hope i get across,
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is the reasoning like i'm not just picking a test from thin air this is the
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tissue and this is the reasons we're doing these tests and if it's nothing more
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than a oh that makes me think better now for the next time i see someone then
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hopefully hopefully it lands with whoever's watching,
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very cool i know i'm biased by now it's going to be a great talk so yeah people
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if you work with populations who run,
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then yeah check that out so that's 11 50 in the clinical skills lab these this
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is on day two on thursday then you get your wonderful break and then at two
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o'clock in the business and practice leadership theater,
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you are in a panel discussion which sounds brilliant which is something so topical,
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AI in MSK care and education, friend, foe, or we just don't know yet.
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You got any details about that? Do you know how else is on it?
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Yeah, so this is the classic example of everything we mentioned about how we've
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been received so well by the organizers.
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This was, you know, my background over the last four years, as well as running
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my business, is re-lecturing in a university.
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And as an academic, as a lecturer, and also as someone supervising my students,
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nothing has probably garnered more attention from us than the use of AI.
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Right well the good the bad and the ugly of it and
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and we just don't really know where we are with that and certainly there's so
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many pros and there's so many cons so this was an idea that i took to the the
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panel this is one that i took to the organizers and said i'd love to get people
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on i'll chair it i'll host it,
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and we'll get some people in who work in industry with it or in education with
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it or in clinical practice and we'll just ask them questions i was fortunate
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enough last year to be in the room when we had the sports therapy
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professions debate and it was the ability to just see okay you're all going for the common goal,
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but you're all seeing it slightly different because because of you working in
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different styles and different ways and different situations it does mean different things,
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and that was also that was practically the inspiration with this so so we're
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still waiting for a couple of absolutely confirmed names but effectively we've
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got some academics, we've got someone who is in AI.
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As a sort of pioneer using it, that's their game.
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We've got a couple of clinicians coming in, we're using it in clinical practice,
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and we're just going to ask them all the same questions that are hopefully the
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questions that we ask ourselves individually in clinic.
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Of yeah what do you think you know is this gonna be and hopefully we're left
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with a little bit more information from people who have a really nuanced balanced opinion on it,
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and as as the other thing that i love with with therapy show over the last few
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years is we are we've been able to shine a spotlight on things and what's been
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more important than that is we introduce some topical things,
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under the spotlight but we go back and we ask it more the next year and we ask
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it more you know If you think of things like concussion, neurodivergence,
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perimenopause, postmenopause, there's three little things off the top of my
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head that they were nowhere near this world five years ago.
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And we've drip fed these in, but we've been able to give them legs that,
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okay, we're coming back with the next bit and the next bit and the next bit.
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And now they've become quite good staples of it.
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So hopefully AI now, it's something we certainly do need to think about.
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And hopefully, though, even if this is the first thing, I know it's not the
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only AI talk in the program, but hopefully this just starts to feed the conversation
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around, cool, where are we with this?
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Let's not just jump on it's amazing or jump on it's dangerous.
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And let's just have a real conversation
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of, okay, yeah, I've got a better all-round opinion on this now.
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And hopefully by next year, that's even more or even better.
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And I'm signposting to people and things that can help me gain a better understanding of it.
22:59
Very interesting another great one yep i hope if you listen to this people by
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now you should have a bit of paper open or you can get the program and print it out from.
23:08
The therapy show website and start marking stuff off there is an app this year
23:11
i'm not sure if it's open yet i probably should check that but apparently it's
23:15
going to be easier to mark what you want to go to and plan your day but yeah,
23:18
two already that you don't want to miss fantastic yeah really looking forward to those
23:22
i don't think it clashes with me at all so yeah no i'm down for them i'm down
23:27
for them you convinced me that's that's my only directive to them every year
23:30
make sure i don't clash on that well you know you're good he's now got a better
23:34
beard than me so i think that's that's one thing,
23:37
we've got somebody who was only coming as long as he wasn't on at the same time
23:41
as you because he'd heard about your fame and that's dr lawman mosley that was
23:44
the only that was the only condition apparently he gave was
23:48
i don't want any snakes and i don't want to be on the same time as mike james
23:51
and he got it so they squeezed him in before your starts at 9 30 a.m on day
23:55
two which was very considerate,
23:57
and that's in theatre a that's kind of i mean i don't want to sound like a fan
24:01
boy but if therapy show needs to go you know where we've got to this year i
24:04
mean it's not live people don't quote me it is actually um it's a live stream
24:08
sorry but it's not in person they haven't flown them over from australia,
24:12
but yeah it's a live stream that's pretty cool isn't it for they must be pat
24:15
themselves in the back a bit,
24:17
Yeah, absolutely. I think with someone like him, you know, we've got every industry
24:22
has tiers to them, don't they? And there's the very good, there's the elite,
24:27
there's the world class, and then there's the sort of goat status of stuff.
24:32
The beauty of someone like Laura Mamosley is twofold, I always think.
24:38
I signpost people to him because of his clinical gold around pain science and everything else.
24:46
But I think I signpost as many people to him and other people like him just
24:50
to watch how he speaks, watch his passion, watch how he gives a story,
24:54
watch how he delivers education.
24:56
Because it's off the charts as far as genius level for just so engaging.
25:02
You know, I can watch him for the thousandth time on YouTube and I'm feeling
25:06
myself being drawn towards the telly.
25:09
And he is just, you know, as you say, goat status for that stuff.
25:14
And we've done it there. That's a classic example where, you know,
25:19
I think we were, certainly my feeling on the advisory board is we always fought for the little man.
25:25
We always fought for the underdog and the newcomer. We always wanted to give people a platform.
25:29
And we always defended passionately them being drowned out by the superstars or the loudest voices.
25:36
And it really, but then we were never against having superstars there as well,
25:41
because it added to the credibility of the show.
25:45
And the balance this year feels perfect for that. There's half a dozen absolutely
25:49
superstar guys come in and talk in.
25:52
People that i've seen a million times that i know when i talk to and i'm still
25:56
excited to go and listen to them again but likewise that everybody else is there
26:01
as well on shoulder to shoulder with these guys now which is amazing yeah pretty cool that's true.
26:08
What I liked when I saw the title as well, because if you're really keeping
26:12
up with the evidence, if you've got time, but it's interesting,
26:17
depending who you follow, but there is kind of like sometimes too polarized
26:21
debate, which kind of criticizes Mosley and his team and say it's a little bit
26:27
all this kind of like perception and pain and it's caused more harm than good.
26:31
And it's typical polarized debate, but it's interesting to know about it.
26:34
And it's interesting to hear the critiques and how some people do kind of reject
26:38
what him and his pain education kind of people have done.
26:42
But I was really excited when I saw the name of it is the limits of pain science,
26:45
because that just shows that, you know, someone like him, again,
26:48
like all the greats are evolving and they're ready to get up there.
26:51
And as Mr. Pain Science, he's like, let's talk about the limits of pain science
26:54
in real world MSK practice. So I think it'd be really exciting to see that.
26:59
I'm just worried about how they're going to manage that and let people in. I don't know.
27:03
Yeah. That's, um. On the morning. We'll leave that to them.
27:06
That's not important. Even the logistics of how it's going to work.
27:08
Is it one rally? Is it, you know, I'm assuming it's one big screen in,
27:12
in the theater and people just.
27:15
I mean, they put it on purposely as first. So I think they're just treating
27:18
it like a Black Friday sale or something and they're just, people will be queuing
27:20
up and then come in. Yeah.
27:22
But yeah. And I hope I'm not.
27:24
Overstepping but we've we've chatted with them before about the ability to record
27:28
things and make it available afterwards so so i'm hoping and assuming that that's
27:33
potentially going to be something that,
27:35
is an open access to everybody else afterwards i think it's if i remember rightly
27:40
and that might not be the case but i think it's like a 20 pound add-on now you
27:44
just have recordings of everything,
27:46
yeah so there's just 20 pounds you get recordings yeah so which is pretty fair enough.
27:52
If you think what you're getting who you're getting exactly like 20 quid is
27:56
bonkers yeah it's pretty bonkers to tell you the truth it's the same as just
28:00
giving a bit of octape isn't it,
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wicked right so uh that's great,
28:06
and the other good news is just because yes that was long moseley anyway so
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that's happening uh 9 30 a.m so first talk i believe in theater a on day two
28:14
so people make sure you don't get stuck in the traffic it can be tricky on day
28:18
two just if you're interested in that
28:20
it's going to be first come first served obviously so get along to that,
28:23
and and our good friend mr grice has managed to blag the chair in about as well
28:27
oh did he really of course he did.
28:30
Of course, yeah, that's nice to know. And then if you,
28:34
the good news also is that after that finishes, then you get half an hour to
28:38
go back to the clinical skills lab and you'll be able to see the other very
28:42
sought off speaker, Matt Phillips, who'll be there back in the clinical skills lab.
28:47
Just let people know myself. I've said it a couple of times because no one else,
28:49
who else is going to announce it?
28:51
But I'll be doing a talk called Changing the Room, Not the Person,
28:53
Neurodiversity and MSK Clinical Practice.
28:56
So yeah, I think it's going to be great, but you need to come along.
28:59
It'll be the whole kind of ecological and activism psychology thing of just
29:02
knowing how the environment around the patient might have even more to do with
29:08
their success and recovery than what you're actually doing to their knee at the time.
29:11
So hopefully some forward thinking and something that will excite people.
29:15
So, yeah, come along to that.
29:16
And then also while we're talking about that on the subject of neurodiversity,
29:19
neurodivergence, also, which I announced a few weeks ago, there's going to be
29:23
a panel talk beyond awareness, neuroaffirmative practice and MSK care.
29:28
And then and again hats off to therapy show i've worked really close with them
29:32
this year to try and make a little bit more neuroaffirmative and increase accessibility
29:36
not just for neurodivergent people but for anybody with any sort of access barrier,
29:40
and there'll be four of us there this year with clear t-shirts and stuff to
29:44
help anybody who's feeling that they need a bit of support so they really have
29:47
pulled the stops out of that and listen to us a lot we're going to have wider.
29:51
Places or wider aisles in the theaters for people need access there'll be seated
29:56
room as well because Although it sounds like some people don't even think about
29:59
it, but some people really are better off on the floor than on those chairs.
30:03
There's going to be ear defenders for people if they want them.
30:06
There'll be easier access to headphones as well. So they've put a lot,
30:09
there's an official quiet room this year. So there's an awful lot going on.
30:13
So, yeah, that will be the panel debate. And the reason I mention it as well
30:15
is because with me, the moderators for my Facebook group, there's Sarah Mihag,
30:20
James Duhaggart, and also Rosie Sexton.
30:22
That's what I was getting to hear with the segue, who, of course,
30:24
is your partner in crime for the Everyday Athlete podcast.
30:28
She is indeed. How's that going?
30:31
Good. I mean, like, in general, not like your time spread with Rosie,
30:34
but how's the podcast going? Both are going well. Both are good.
30:38
Rosie, currently, we're going to have to chat about this on the podcast.
30:41
So Rosie in the summer has disappeared down a poker rabbit hole.
30:45
I've been following with Greg Lee.
30:48
As true Rosie style, you know, it is full on.
30:51
And yeah, we've sort of, as a lot of these sort of, when you do something together,
30:57
you want to do it all together.
30:59
And after a while you realize, we might have to record the odd one on our own
31:02
or do a monologue or interview a guest solo. Otherwise we're just going to have
31:06
not enough churn of episodes.
31:09
So we've had a bit of a summer haitus a little bit. We've both been away,
31:11
both been busy, but yeah, well, one of the nice, hopefully evolutions that we're
31:16
in the pipe works now of chatting about, and there was no talk of this before we started, but.
31:21
We share very, very similar views on practical application of exercise teaching.
31:28
Very, very, you know, passionate about just why are we making this stuff so
31:32
complex and complicated?
31:34
So we will hopefully in the not too distant future have a little in-person day,
31:40
where we're just going to have a, you know, a very sort of loose syllabus and
31:44
a lot of playing and exploring and discussing and debating.
31:48
In and just let's just think out loud as a group and see that we're better than
31:52
this than we really think we are so you just said what you're gonna do it in
31:56
person day yeah oh really how cool yeah so that should be good and and we don't
32:00
know where that will go or how it'll take off or how.
32:04
How big that will get but that's definitely the next evolution so that's so
32:08
exciting i remember when i saw first of all that you two were getting together
32:11
with the podcast i thought wow if if,
32:14
if i could have put two people together i'd never have guessed that it's like,
32:17
creating a new sandwich with two ingredients which you you can't you wouldn't
32:20
come up with it when someone says it to you you're like oh my god that just
32:23
is perfect and i just thought it's so exciting having you two together and then
32:26
if people listen to the podcast the everyday athlete podcast it's such it sounds
32:29
so good it's such a good combination of minds
32:32
would like you say so much similar in some respects but also so much different in other respects,
32:37
and because everyone's different what works really well for us is that,
32:42
Our end point on most subjects is exactly the same, but the journey we've both
32:47
taken and our thought process to get to that end point is fundamentally different
32:51
a lot of the time. That's a really good way of putting it.
32:53
So that's the really cool thing is that we know what we're going to agree on,
32:56
but we don't really know how we're going to get there.
32:58
That's exactly, you've nailed it. That's what's so attractive about it.
33:01
Yeah, so check that out, people. If you're listening and you like free CPD and
33:04
quality stuff, the Everyday Athlete Podcast, what were you, episode 13 was the
33:09
last one, was it? Yeah, 13 or 14, something like that.
33:11
So there's, there you go, 13 fantastic episodes there covering everything to
33:15
do with, or like the title says, you'll find something which is,
33:20
which will really resonate with your clients, everyday athletes. So yeah, check that out.
33:25
Right then, I'm just checking if any questions in the live audience.
33:28
Steve, I think, bar, I think this refers to the latte, large, I trust.
33:32
I think he was referring to that, I'm pretty sure. There's only one size in,
33:37
there. There's only one size latte. Thank you, Stevie.
33:40
Anything else i mean i might bring up just for people to give an example of
33:43
what's going on at therapy show i might bring up the clinical skills lab just
33:46
the itinerary but is there anything else that you've heard is happening this
33:49
year which you'd like to kind of highlight or something you particularly are looking forward to,
33:53
Yeah, I think certainly in my day on the Wednesday when I'm chairing theatre
33:57
here, I love looking at the itinerary of who I'm going to introduce.
34:01
It starts off good and gets better.
34:05
If anyone from Wales who is a football fan,
34:09
will still wax lyrical about the halcyon days of summer of 2016 when we got
34:15
to the semi-final, the Euros, and,
34:17
one particular moment that stands out was one of the best, most famous Cruyff
34:21
turns in history against Belgium and the very man who did that will be speaking
34:26
on stage Mr Hal Robson-Chanu,
34:29
and he's coming in, we've always chatted before, I've brought up lots of times
34:32
on the advisory board about,
34:34
through someone else's eyes or through someone else's lens or a day in the life
34:38
of and getting people where you wouldn't have access to them normally and.
34:43
Whether you know Hal's story or not, he had an injury-plagued career from the
34:48
very early outset and took it on himself to design and develop some nutrition
34:53
products to try and support that.
34:55
And he's coming in chatting about from injury setback to evidence-led recovery,
35:00
the role of nutrition in long-term performance.
35:03
So I think that's really cool to start off.
35:05
You mentioned about people coming back full circle and looking at things.
35:09
We've got Dan is coming, Dan Lawrence is coming in to chat about rethinking kinesiology tape.
35:15
Looking forward to that. Then we've got people like Michelle Lyons coming back yet again.
35:20
And again, the thing about what can you use now and learn today and use tomorrow
35:25
with your patient, you know, menopause and musculoskeletal health,
35:28
the fundamentals you need to know now.
35:30
Like if that doesn't give you things to just take away and go,
35:33
boom, I know what I'm doing a bit better than I did yesterday.
35:36
So everything there on day one with myself looks amazing. Day two in theatre
35:42
here again, something that's close to both of our hearts. Serena Simmons is in.
35:47
Or out rethinking behavior change that's a really good example there of of how
35:52
they've listened to us in suggesting speakers and things and getting because
35:56
one of the complaints i've heard a few times and i think everyone's,
36:00
everyone experiences therapy show differently but a few times i've heard oh
36:03
it's the same people again and
36:05
sometimes the response is yeah because they're good but sometimes people just
36:08
need to see other names on the program to feel they're getting their money's
36:11
worth which i understand that but yeah serena coming in is just amazing somebody
36:15
who person's spoken there before
36:17
i think i think something that i'm.
36:19
And it perhaps comes from left field this thing from me but maybe the thing
36:23
i'm looking forward to most and i'm still going to be cynical about it till
36:27
i see it but the bit that's always sat
36:30
least comfortable with me with therapy show is the business stuff and the and
36:34
the sort of business development stuff it's always felt pinstripey suit hard sell,
36:40
you know everything's behind a paywall i'll teach you my secrets for this much
36:44
a month and you and i won't name names but we both know people who've been burnt
36:48
going down that road in the past,
36:50
and and i always never really knew i don't know i couldn't i always struggled
36:53
to articulate to the team about i don't know what looks better there but it's not that,
36:58
and when you look at the program for those you know we've got katie bells coming
37:02
in trying self-employed versus employed the decision that will make or break
37:06
your clinic i think that's gold dust probably for a lot of people.
37:10
You know, you are the bottleneck. She's Katie coming back again.
37:14
Why your clinic can't grow with you yet, which is a positive.
37:19
Getting to grips with profit and loss, managing your team.
37:23
There's so many good things there.
37:25
Optimizing social media with Laura Bevan, Rob's wife.
37:29
So many good things there that feel like they're just more practical takeaways
37:33
and good advice and knowledge sharing rather than a sales pitch.
37:38
So I'm really looking forward to the business and practice leadership The title
37:41
sound good. I know what you mean, but these sound like real practical things,
37:44
which anybody with any income and any kind of setup will be able to appreciate.
37:48
So yeah, that's good stuff.
37:51
But no stereotyping, but the Scottish guy's back and says, what about the cost?
37:58
I don't oh it's so tricky you know what because i try and champion the fact
38:03
that plenty of my friends
38:05
have a cognitive profile which means they will never ever buy a ticket that's
38:09
47 pounds in the first month after therapy show it just doesn't work that way
38:13
the same way as they won't organize anything it just doesn't,
38:15
work with a rather large percentage of the population but the fact is,
38:20
for a A lot of the population did have a chance to get a ticket for £47,
38:26
and that was in the first couple of months.
38:29
Now, obviously, it's back up to £140 or something. So, yeah,
38:32
the discussion about cost, I think, Stevie, from Glasgow, is,
38:36
I don't know, it's tricky. It gets trickier every year.
38:39
It does get to a point where I understand that if someone turns around now and
38:42
goes, oh, I really fancy that, but it's £149. I get that.
38:46
But it's planning, isn't it, to a certain extent, without sounding too...
38:50
Is that mean of me to say no i i think you know i think like,
38:54
i will always i've always been fortunate enough that it's something i can accommodate
38:58
into my sort of budget and my business and my working week and i don't take
39:03
that for granted i know that's not as easy for some people as it is for me so
39:07
i've always been quite sort of,
39:09
aware of that as you say yeah you know the the dates are released early every
39:14
year and hopefully it gives people enough time if you You can get on enough and we know that,
39:20
sometimes these things can slip under people's radar and so on and so on.
39:25
But even at full price, you know, my question would often be is I don't know
39:30
what else you'd get for this value.
39:32
You know, you'd pay the same money to listen to one person or two people say
39:37
the word according to them on a weekend.
39:39
What you wouldn't get is the chance to have, as we mentioned,
39:43
all of those people and all of those subjects available over those two days.
39:47
You know, there's so much you can't take it all in.
39:49
That's the biggest flaw with therapy show is you just can't see everything.
39:54
But but if you know i'm hoping that if the um i'm not sure again i'm charlotte
39:59
and liam are probably going sharp mike because we're not doing that but i don't
40:03
know if you can access the 20 pound recordings without being there i'm not sure,
40:07
if you can't hopefully there's a price point that they can bring in that might
40:11
be able to i know we want people to be able to go and be there and then they
40:15
that's the benefit to being there they get access to all of those the the fear
40:18
would be if you could buy the recordings people wouldn't come in the first,
40:22
place but i'm aware that charlotte did say like they're always very receptive
40:27
to people who have got extenuating circumstances like if they couldn't buy it
40:31
earlier because they're waiting
40:32
for an operation or something or a health matter and they just couldn't
40:36
then there is a phone number i can't remember the name of the wonderful person
40:39
at the end of it now maria or something marie,
40:41
but they do and i know through people i've talked with they do have conversations
40:45
and listen people who are in circumstances where,
40:47
they either can't afford it or something happened where they mean they couldn't get it early.
40:50
So it's not, it's by no means could you accuse therapy show of being black and white and that's it.
40:57
So yeah, if there are people out there who for circumstances weren't able to
41:03
get the earlier price, give them a call, explain it.
41:05
If you think you've got an argument there and there is a more sympathetic ear
41:09
than you might imagine from a massive corporate company, they do have conversations and listen.
41:14
So it's probably worth a call. But I think as well, like a lot of the costs,
41:18
a lot of people, it's not necessarily the cost, as Steve says,
41:22
it's the junk costs that are due to it.
41:24
But we and again a little bit of of forum in and a little bit of sort of of networking,
41:29
with people like anna maria they're getting these massive airbnbs and then putting
41:34
up a load of people so there may be ways that collectively perhaps perhaps there's
41:38
a way to to make this a little bit more affordable for some,
41:42
you know i think the problem will always be two days out of clinic and not earning
41:46
money during those two days is normally most people's pinch point but yeah it's tricky Thank you.
41:52
But yeah, and it just makes me think as a professional association,
41:55
like as the STA, I always think could we have done anything more to help members,
42:01
organize themselves earlier on and take advantage of the cheaper prices and
42:04
sort out an Airbnb and talk to each other.
42:06
And we do all the coffee mornings and talk about that, but it's,
42:09
yeah, I do feel the responsibility as a professional association to try and
42:14
remind people and help people and guide people.
42:15
That's why people pay their membership. but yeah we're seven weeks away if you
42:20
haven't got anything yet then,
42:22
if you are part of the STA then have a chat call Gary there might be four other
42:26
people in the same position you could all get an Airbnb together you know with
42:29
20 minute uh taxi into there and it is doable and it's probably cheaper than you imagine so yeah,
42:36
and I always think um,
42:39
every every year I meet and I laugh with Vernon who spends his two days head
42:43
on fire trying to make sure people sign up for next years show,
42:47
as vendors businesses and i often think maybe there might be a trick being missed
42:52
and maybe you could sell early bird tickets for the year after now,
42:56
even before the program's out before anything's done just come look you're here,
43:01
you've put an outlay to be here maybe look is a really really good price point
43:06
for you to just snap it up now,
43:09
that's that's potentially refundable i don't know again charlotte and liam are
43:13
probably somewhere going turn him off turn him off stop him pull the plug now.
43:20
Anyway yeah no great thanks stevie though no i do appreciate it it's tricky
43:24
and i and i understand you probably had circumstances where you couldn't quite
43:27
commit to it but you know what i don't know,
43:30
yeah i don't know what can we say sta gary is here good i'm glad that prompted you gary
43:34
gary has said founder of the sta says we provide monthly updates on pricing
43:38
matt and our newsletters send direct to members we also publicize the latest
43:41
price point on our website homepage banners i mean this is what a professional
43:44
association should be doing i know i get it,
43:47
that people do need reminders and people need looking after it's what the government
43:51
should in theory be doing and it's the same as what a professional association
43:53
should be doing that's why you pay what you do,
43:56
and we have been doing that but it's all about whether you're not getting emails
44:00
and we do say check your junk mail but yeah,
44:03
as a therapist this is why it's useful to belong to an organization or association
44:07
that looks after you and just try and make sure you're receiving that communication.
44:11
Right. I just want to have a quick run through this. You mentioned Serena Simmons.
44:15
You mentioned a few other people along and Moseley, obviously.
44:19
There's plenty of people who haven't been there before, but I looked at the
44:21
clinical skills lab and I couldn't, I think just a, there was just a few names
44:25
there who have been there for a few years and they just, each time I see them, they up their games.
44:29
I thought there's plenty of
44:31
different theatres people, but we mentioned clinical skills lab already.
44:36
And I just wanted to highlight what's going on there, for example.
44:39
So we mentioned that mike and myself are there on day two but in day one.
44:44
Oh no on day two in the morning we got paul coker i mean that's just entertainment
44:48
isn't it for on so many levels and and cutting edge ways of looking at things
44:53
paul can be doing what neuroscience can teach physical therapists and if you
44:56
haven't seen paul coker before it's just talk about engaging,
45:00
and and and with that accent as well he's very engaging i would have a look
45:04
at that and he's always on the cutting edge of looking at different ways and
45:06
to age your clients then after that we've got ian gatt,
45:10
again very experienced physiotherapist upper limb athlete care challenging conventional
45:14
post-surgical rehab protocols,
45:16
and we got me in there which you mentioned chris tiley is back in that theater
45:20
as well of never too old to lift with a great sounding presentation stop preventing
45:24
falls start training for them why preparation beats prevention,
45:28
if you haven't heard of chris tiley and never too old to lift just amazing information
45:33
for working with older clients and just not being scared to, to get them,
45:39
just loaded, you know, strength training, suitable strength training,
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but probably heavier than you would ever imagine.
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And think about things like power and force and what they're going to need in
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everyday life and for their goals. So yeah, Chris is amazing.
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Then we got Mike, as we said before, with how do I know if my patient's ready to run?
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Uzo, who last year was probably my top speaker when he was part of that panel.
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You've always got a soft spot for Uzo, haven't you? He's great.
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Again, so enigmatic. Well, he says, well.
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Great speaker yeah he's pushing the go category and so on,
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he is pushing the go category um yeah spinal rehabilitation and return to sport
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and exercise and clinical reasoning and he's again such a magnetic speaker really really cool
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owen lewis from born to move at 150 this is all just one after the other in
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one of the like seven theaters just to give you an idea of what's going on,
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and the sporting shoulder to chaos to clarity,
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the one that jumps off for me is the final session with Claire Callan,
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weight loss injections, bones, muscles, and metabolism.
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You know, where we often say that when I speak to my students about attending
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or therapists, I know about attending my sort of mantra to them always is,
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yes, it gives you a chance to see those you're desperate to see,
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but it also gives you a chance to see things that you wouldn't go and listen
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to, or you don't think fit your remit right now.
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And certainly personally, I'm just increasingly, increasingly having conversations
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with people about these bloody weight loss injections,
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the good or bad of those and where we sit with them and you know all those sort
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of things now we're learning a bit more so again that looks like a perfect one
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for someone to go if you know
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as a last talk of the conference before jumping in the car and reflecting on
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your way home that feels like something that could be a real.
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Punchy takeaway one at the end very cool and also on day one in the clinical,
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skills lab someone who's,
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profile has just grown and grown and grown i know you've chatted to him ben
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why your bro's there oh wonderful yeah yeah you know every everybody should
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now be aware of him with his podcast clinical communication and just has a very,
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articulate and clever way of just explaining communication things,
47:44
so how to make rehab plans that start and last seems like something that you know,
47:50
you don't need to now go and listen to someone telling you how many sets and
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reps and what exercises someone needs which is what everybody bloody thinks they do
47:58
you can have someone saying no these are the things you need to be chatting
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about and this is my assumption from his talk but these are the things that
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will really make the difference to people doing them,
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so you know those those are the ones that feel really powerful there's some
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really good i mean originally i was going to do a communication based presentation,
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especially with the communication course i run but that when i saw or after suggesting ben,
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and serena and all of adams as well who's just the queen of motivational interviewing
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who i was up in cardiff with she's there at 2 30
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i just said to liam you know what forget i'll change my communication one because
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we've got three absolute brilliant presentations going on and i just don't want
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to i don't want to add to it as.
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I wouldn't yeah so but yeah all of adams as well deserves a mention she's gonna be,
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on a 230 on day two in the clinical skills lab for the mi
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and toward the end of day one i can't not mention my brother from another mother
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mr miller steve miller's back okay um but i mean this genuinely so one of the
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thing one of the most powerful talks you can ever see is steve
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when he chats about return to play in rehab
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he comes from this really high level elite sport background but he explains
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how he does things so simply you know
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i'm undoubtedly confident he will have lots of videos lots of demonstrations
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lots of examples of this is how i implement the things I'm doing,
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and it normally comes across as a very easy but powerful visual example of how
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to do things the right way.
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So that should be cool. Very cool. I mean, the names were just given there,
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and there's like seven theatres. So, yeah.
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I mean, I hope we're not just coming across as, oh, therapy show, therapy show.
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No, it's just the speakers, the programme there is just...
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It's very cool, people. You're going to, yeah, those of you going,
49:45
if you can't make it, please don't blame me and please don't get kind of fear
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of missing out and all that.
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Just think about it next year if you can, especially if you can snap it up for £47.
49:55
Believe me, you won't get somebody who's more anti-corporate and all that sort
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of stuff. And I'm a terrible employee. It's why I'm self-employed. I'm awful.
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But yeah, this show has got so many people who could improve, are worth paying for.
50:09
And not just that as we say all the time it's all the other people you meet
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it's all the networking it's hanging around with fellow therapists and chatting
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and talking and it's it's gonna be cool.
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I think we started off my chatting about when we first started going and we
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were paying to sit in the seats ourselves,
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i genuinely feel here that it's probably back to a place now program wise i
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pay to go if that's the only way i could get there now i'd pay to go and sit
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there for two days and listen to these guys and girls,
50:39
yeah yeah no definitely especially the 47 pound yeah,
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but yeah no it's it's yeah and as we say as well like if you're going by yourself
50:50
then do come along to the sta stand even if you're not a member of the sta i mean
50:55
one of the biggest gary set up the sta because he didn't want any therapist
50:58
to feel alone and it's particularly events like this where he just says come along and chat with us
51:03
if you don't want to join up that's fine but just don't feel alone that's not
51:06
the idea chances are when you come along and meet us all and that sort of stuff
51:09
then you probably will join up when you realize how little it costs but,
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if you're feeling alone come along and i think every year people come along
51:16
and then suddenly they meet someone else and they spend the whole day just traveling
51:18
around with that person it's just such a rewarding experience and you'll probably
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learn so much more if you're relaxed and chilled out not feeling like,
51:25
kind of you know imposter syndrome and all that sort of stuff so do come along
51:27
and find us at the STA stand.
51:30
Right time is running away ah so nice to catch up with you mike and yeah so
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exciting i'm so excited to follow your journey this year with you not sharing
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on day two how cool is that,
51:42
what else you got going in life apart from this um life is busy as always,
51:48
i have a little bit of breathing room now the boys are getting old enough that
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i've got a little bit of tight back they're not as as time consuming as they
51:55
once were but that seems to get filled with other things lecturing now we've just completed
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at University of South Wales we've just finished our first program we've had
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our first graduates who finished in the summer but graduating Jan,
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you know we've built that from the ground up it's been a fascinating insight
52:12
and journey to learn how to build an academic program so that's going from strength
52:16
to strength endurance physio is busy as always coaching more than treating these days.
52:22
But but as I was saying before we came on there seems to be a spike again now
52:26
in in-person teaching so the passport is back out we've got a couple of trips
52:30
in the next couple of weeks so yeah all good busy keeping out of trouble,
52:36
never losing the passion to keep coming back to that evidently evidently it
52:40
shows all the time from your voice in your face um if people want to follow
52:44
you then instagram the underscore endurance underscore physio always active
52:48
on that sharing pearls of wisdom,
52:51
and then on facebook the endurance physio still pretty active on both platforms
52:54
or would you recommend one over the other or no so so if i if i got a fault
52:59
with my social media i just
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share the same stuff to every platform i don't do anything that's one heavy
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i you know i stick some stuff on tiktok i'm still busy on x or twitter,
53:08
i tend to just dump it all everywhere all the time i you know i probably could
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be more nuanced in one of them more than the others but uh don't worry but it
53:16
just gets dumped everywhere and if you find it you find it and if it helps brilliant,
53:21
and uh yeah fantastic like the endurance physio will pop up somewhere or other,
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and as far as you know you're not sharing Anna Maria this year, are you?
53:29
I hope not.
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Which gives us a nice segue to next week's therapy show, Speaker Spotlight.
53:36
It's going to be Anna Maria Matsieri who always is just a delight when Mike
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chairs for her because she just finishes on time. What did she say to you last
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year when he kind of insinuated you and a few minutes left?
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She just sort of went from the start, like 30 minutes. I'm not going to get that in.
53:51
And if you've not been on stage, what you don't see sometimes is that the foot
53:56
of the speakers is a clock it's a countdown clock
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and it goes lovely coming down from 25 to zero and once it goes past and it
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goes minus it turns red which basically means you need to get off and you need to finish,
54:08
and i've never seen anyone ignore something as much as she ignores she just
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ignores it i'm just i'm just gonna go until i'm done,
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and and for anyone who loves anna maria we know that she just keeps going so
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um do you have the gsl of educators,
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Yeah. Well, anyway, the wonderful Anna Maria Matsieri will be joining me next
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week to talk about what she is going to be involved with.
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Obviously, in the past years, the same as the STA theatre, we've had the Hanson
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Hub, and we've moved on from that now. But myself and Anna Maria are still speaking
54:39
there, and we've got the STA stand. So yeah, for those of you who love a bit
54:42
of Anna Maria in your life, then she'll be at Therapy Expo as well with some presentations.
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And we'll talk about them next week. So if you want to join us for that live
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session, that will be on tuesday october the 13th at eight o'clock uk time,
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that's it thank you mike james the endurance physio lovely to catch up my pleasure
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lovely as always and yeah in six seven weeks coffee all day long.
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You find matt and i i was sitting in the coffee shop.
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Gonna be marvelous right well thanks again for your time really appreciate it um,
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thank you everyone who joined us live thank you for the questions thank you
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stevie bar and thank you for the podcast listener hopefully some of you can
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join us live but until then make sure you take care of yourselves and more importantly
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take care of each other we will speak again very soon bye bye.