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Orioles sign Alonso, Mets fallout, Red Sox plans, Tigers ink Finnegan · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: This is it the end of the Winter Meetings, and
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  Speaker 1: you know what that means? Everything will start happening. Well, yes,
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  Speaker 1: no more backpacks, that's the easy answer from Krafts. But
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  Speaker 1: also everything will start happening. Why there's no deadline, so
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  Speaker 1: things will happen now tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Mar My question is why does kraft take backpack so much?
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  Speaker 3: I love backpack.
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  Speaker 2: I love backpacks. Like what Krafts?
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  Speaker 4: Are you like one of those people that has the
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  Speaker 4: wheelie the little wheelie suitcase when you go around like,
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  Speaker 4: not a backpack, Like, I don't get what you're such
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  Speaker 4: a backpack hater.
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  Speaker 5: If you saw all the backpacks that went by, it
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  Speaker 5: looks like some people are hault like their shurpas, like
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  Speaker 5: they're hauling their entire life around with them. It's like
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  Speaker 5: you're at the Winter Meetings. Like our guy right back there,
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  Speaker 5: Shy DAVIDI he just he just walked by, good backpack wearing.
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  Speaker 5: We got some people that are rocking all of Peter
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  Speaker 5: Alonzo's money in it. That's what it looks like. So
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  Speaker 5: that's all I love back.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you don't. You don't want to see my backpack.
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  Speaker 4: Backpack is like my go back so it has all
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  Speaker 4: kinds of stuff and it has I closed for three weeks.
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  Speaker 4: It's got like a fair shoes I fold up in it.
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  Speaker 4: It's got all my bathroom stuff, it's got my all
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  Speaker 4: my cords, It's got everything in it. So I can't
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  Speaker 4: make fun of anyone with the backpack like backpacks or
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  Speaker 4: where it's at.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one guy walking by an Orioles. Guy
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  Speaker 1: had a big orange Orioles logo and his backpack was
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  Speaker 1: like this big.
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  Speaker 3: It had all of Pete Alonzo's money in it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, every every busin So let's hit breaking news. The
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  Speaker 1: polar Bear has left the Mets. Five years, one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty five million dollars gets him to the Baltimore Orioles.
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  Speaker 1: Orioles made a big bid that essentially matched what the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies through at Kyle Schwarber. That was according to Ken Rosenthal,
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  Speaker 1: who had great reporting. And we'll be on our show later,
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  Speaker 1: but we learned that Pete Alonso will instead be the
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  Speaker 1: guy that the Oriols bring in to be their big
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  Speaker 1: power bat to help get these young guys to a
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  Speaker 1: better spot and get the Oils back into the postseason.
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  Speaker 4: Also, don't forget, I mean they added a ward Taylor
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  Speaker 4: Ward right, yep. So they've started adding bats and then
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  Speaker 4: they hope Athley bounces back. They have Basaio, they have Gunner.
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  Speaker 4: They're hoping Jackson Holiday takes the next step, Cowser takes
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  Speaker 4: the next step. Like this is this is how you
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  Speaker 4: do it right, This is how you build an organization.
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  Speaker 4: And when you get to that point, now, they need
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  Speaker 4: some pitching, and especially in that division.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna need some pitching. And as happy as I am.
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  Speaker 4: For the Orioles right now, because we've we've banged the
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  Speaker 4: Orioles drummed to death, like we need the Oriols to
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  Speaker 4: do this, we need the Oriels to do this. Michaelia's
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  Speaker 4: way to go. The new ownership. We saw Adam Jones,
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  Speaker 4: we saw them Jones walk Why he didn't even tell
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  Speaker 4: us about this? So I don't even know what's happening right,
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  Speaker 4: But here's my question.
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  Speaker 2: What are the Mets doing? What where are you?
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  Speaker 4: Mister met Like what are we happening here with Uncle
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  Speaker 4: Stevie Cohen? Like what if you're a Mets fan, you
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  Speaker 4: lost Edwin Diaz and now you've lost Pete a Lonzo
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  Speaker 4: and twenty four hours, what's happening up there in Queens
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  Speaker 4: in the seven train and all that. Are they too
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  Speaker 4: worried about building that casino in that new area they're building.
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  Speaker 2: Around city Field? Like what Pete Alonzo.
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  Speaker 1: Shoot, they didn't make the playoffs last year and they said,
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  Speaker 1: fuck this, We're doing something different.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, okay, I'm I'm gonna not I'm gonna not
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  Speaker 5: bag on the Mets here because I bagged on the
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  Speaker 5: Pirates yesterday and my Twitter page just melted away with
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  Speaker 5: all the visceral just hate of what I was saying.
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  Speaker 5: But so I'm gonna go with the Orioles. Does anybody
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  Speaker 5: know how many home runs the highest amount of home
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  Speaker 5: runs on the twenty twenty five Orioles was. It was
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  Speaker 5: Gunnar Gunner, Gunner, Jackson Holliday, and Jordan Westberg all had
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  Speaker 5: seventeen home runs to add Pede Alonzo. Rarely can you
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  Speaker 5: say this guy is a forty home run power guy,
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  Speaker 5: like you say, oh he's hit forty. He's normally more
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  Speaker 5: like a thirty five, but his potential is forty. This
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  Speaker 5: guy is a pencil him in for forty home runs.
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  Speaker 5: It could be fifty to fifty five. He will change
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  Speaker 5: this lineup and he will this is a huge step
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  Speaker 5: in the right direction. I just hope the Orioles are
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  Speaker 5: not saying, all right, we're just gonna go with the
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  Speaker 5: pitchers that we got, which are good. Bradish you know,
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  Speaker 5: Tyler Wells, I think will be back. You have a
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  Speaker 5: great year from Rogers Grayson soon too soon, but you
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  Speaker 5: know you're gonna have some good pitching. I just need
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  Speaker 5: them to add to that pitching, because then they become
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  Speaker 5: a formidable piece. Formidable piece in the American League East,
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  Speaker 5: which the Red Sox have made the little moves, the
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  Speaker 5: Blue Jays have made big moves. The Orioles now have
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  Speaker 5: made big moves. The Yankees are just waiting right now.
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  Speaker 5: So this is a fun American League East.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this team had a brutal season this past season.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about Baltimore, Yeah, they just improved their offense with
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  Speaker 1: power significant guys over the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 4: But they have not improved the biggest problem they have pitching. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: because now I used to just I mean, listen, I
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  Speaker 4: love I love the healthy signing and I love bringing
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  Speaker 4: Kittridge back. So I love both of those moves to
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  Speaker 4: help the bullpen. But you trade away Grayson. Can Rogers
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  Speaker 4: do it again? What else do they have? Bradish?
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  Speaker 2: Where's he? Kramer?
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  Speaker 4: Where's he? They don't have Batista? You know, is is
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  Speaker 4: e Flyn? What's where's he at? Like there's all these
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  Speaker 4: well he's not there anymore. He's there right now, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Rodgers, okay, who was brilliant, but two years ago
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  Speaker 4: he was in triple A and could get anybody out.
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Bradish coming off.
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  Speaker 1: This'll be another full season top of surgery, Dean Kramer,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Wells, cade Povich.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Do you trust that now against Garrett Cole, Max Free, Carlos, Roddan,
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  Speaker 4: Louis Heel now in one, and then you go to
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  Speaker 4: Dylan Cees, Kevin Cousman, Burrios, you say Avage, that whole crew,
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  Speaker 4: and then you go to the Crochet and Sonny Gray
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  Speaker 4: and that whole crew plus the Rays with McClanahan and
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  Speaker 4: all of them coming back.
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  Speaker 3: They have by far the worst pitching in the AD.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even close.
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  Speaker 3: But now their lineup is up.
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  Speaker 2: To par Yeah close, but you win the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the division, win with no I know.
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  Speaker 1: But this this to me means all right, good krats
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  Speaker 1: offense done. This a lineup where you look at it
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  Speaker 1: on paper and you're like, Jackson Holiday, what is he
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  Speaker 1: twenty two? Jordan Westburg, Gunner Henderson. Now you added Pete
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  Speaker 1: Atlee Rutchman, you added Taylor Ward outfields, Cowser, maybe Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Beaver's and then besioh too.
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  Speaker 3: Seeing where he plays right could be a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: What's interesting though, is Basio every Orios person were like,
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  Speaker 4: we're not sure if he's gonna catch. He can be
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  Speaker 4: a first base slash dch Kyle, Well, now I ain't
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  Speaker 4: playing first base because PiZZ there and now they still
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  Speaker 4: have Adlee.
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  Speaker 2: So now is he just he's a twenty two year
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  Speaker 2: old dh.
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  Speaker 5: May that's crazy. I mean his bat, his bat plays,
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  Speaker 5: it's definitely there. Obviously had some struggles when he first
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  Speaker 5: came up. Is that like it's it's funny that you
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  Speaker 5: would you would hamstring him like that. Are the Orioles
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  Speaker 5: willing to make Bosaillo the everyday catcher? No, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think so. But are they looking to the future when
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  Speaker 5: Ali Rutchman does not re sign with this team.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, would they trade Adley?
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  Speaker 4: They could get a haul, They could get some pitching
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  Speaker 4: in a trade. If there's teams out there, I look
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  Speaker 4: at a Texas Rangers team that might need a catcher
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  Speaker 4: to pair with Higgey. Right, there's some teams out there
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  Speaker 4: that could use some Philly Maybe if Philly doesn't sign
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  Speaker 4: j T, would they make a move and try to
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  Speaker 4: give up somebody to get a ADLEI Rutchman? I mean
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  Speaker 4: would would the would Michael Yas? It's about possible making
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  Speaker 4: a move for pitching that way because you have Basillo there.
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  Speaker 5: Clearly Michael Yas doesn't want anything to do with any
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  Speaker 5: free agent long long term pitching. He's fine with free
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  Speaker 5: agent pitchers, but long term pitching, you know. So now
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  Speaker 5: you look to the teams. Is there a match where
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  Speaker 5: it's Adlie that has pitching? Does do they want to trade?
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  Speaker 5: Do the Twins want Adlie Rutchman? You know there's pitching there.
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  Speaker 5: Do the Marlins want Adlie Rutchman? There's pitching there there?
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  Speaker 5: You know, you got to look at the matchups and
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  Speaker 5: you know where that where that if if they're saying yes,
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  Speaker 5: we would move ADLEI obviously it's a huge if to me.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's still a top can be a top
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  Speaker 5: tier player.
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  Speaker 1: Also, do we have the full evaluation on Samuel Bessillo yet?
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  Speaker 1: As a big league catcher, if there were some question marks,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the bat should play. So I think they're
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  Speaker 1: going to figure it out. And yeah, it could open
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  Speaker 1: them up to trade thoughts. But for me, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to touch this. I think this is
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  Speaker 1: the lineup they're rolling with.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine, it's a it's a solid lineup.
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  Speaker 3: They'll get Peede off his legs a little bit. Let's
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  Speaker 3: just listen.
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  Speaker 2: Pete doesn't care anymore because Pete just got five years exactly,
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  Speaker 2: so if he doesn't need be like, okay, I don't
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  Speaker 2: need to.
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  Speaker 4: Prove my worth as a first base and now I'm okay.
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  Speaker 4: It's like the hater thing, right for years, I'll only
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  Speaker 4: throw the one inning, and well, now I got my
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  Speaker 4: five years, hundred, I'll do whatever you want now because
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  Speaker 4: I got paid. And and good for Pete, man, Like,
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  Speaker 4: Pete's not gonna not want to play. Pete plays every day,
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  Speaker 4: so when he's not playing first, he still want a
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  Speaker 4: DH so he's gonna be in the lineup again. Good
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  Speaker 4: for you Orioles fans, Good for the Oriols organization. Good
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  Speaker 4: for you Micha Elias, Good for you Rubinstein's yep, everything right.
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  Speaker 4: Good for you can Yard is gonna be rocking again.
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  Speaker 4: I'll go get some pitching, but I I just can't
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  Speaker 4: get over the Mets. The Mets sauce, you can argue,
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  Speaker 4: but like two guys, homegrown dudes man for the Mets,
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  Speaker 4: Edwin Diaz in the all time traded you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I'm yes, early early, but he basically grew up in
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  Speaker 4: big league career as a Met, like if.
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  Speaker 2: Pete Alonso drafted all the way through all time home.
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  Speaker 4: Run leader for the Mets, gone, gone, gone. And but
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: they all people say is Steve Cohen has all this money,
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  Speaker 4: he can never get outspent by anybody. And now they're saying, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we weren't comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, teams.
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  Speaker 4: Always say that when a guy leaves, oh we weren't comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know, it's it's weird. Nemo's gone now,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's they've lost big pieces.
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  Speaker 2: And how will they replace him?
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  Speaker 4: I know David Stearns has this thing that he does,
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  Speaker 4: but how are the Mets going to replace these pieces?
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  Speaker 4: How are they going to replace the home runs? How
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  Speaker 4: are they going to replace Pete A Lonzo in the clubhouse?
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  Speaker 4: Are they going to replace the ninth inning I know
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  Speaker 4: they got Devin Williams, but how are you going to
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  Speaker 4: replace you know, Diz Devin.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: They were pissed as an organization would be. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: make the playoffs. That payroll is off the charts for
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  Speaker 1: a team to not make the playoffs and frankly look
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  Speaker 1: pretty pitiful down the stretch. The only thing that's funny
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  Speaker 1: to me is I feel like there was a clear
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  Speaker 1: cut reason why they didn't make the playoffs, and it
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  Speaker 1: was the pitching. So getting rid of Pete, getting rid
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  Speaker 1: of Nemo, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean their closer, I mean, they get rid of
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  Speaker 4: them guys too, but getting rid of Deals who had
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  Speaker 4: a really good year. Look at his numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, it's like you look and say, hey, we got
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  Speaker 1: to blow this up quite a bit and find a
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  Speaker 1: different mix. But I feel krats, like the players that
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  Speaker 1: are taking the brunt of that are not the ones
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  Speaker 1: that were the problem.
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  Speaker 5: It's a different route. I mean, I guess there's different
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  Speaker 5: way to skin a cat. I just I don't I
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  Speaker 5: don't see it. But I know David Sterns has a plan,
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  Speaker 5: and maybe that plan is, you know, maybe we'll just
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  Speaker 5: linger around and then once all these National League East
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  Speaker 5: contracts get old, then we'll then we'll pounce. No, I
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  Speaker 5: know that's not his plan. I'm excited to see what
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  Speaker 5: he's gonna do because there's a lot of freed up
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  Speaker 5: money right now. Like the fact that you're not paying Diaz.
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  Speaker 5: I guess you have to still pay Devin Williams, and
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  Speaker 5: it's not that big of a difference you're not paying Pete.
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  Speaker 5: Like I I'm excited. I think I think Sterns will
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  Speaker 5: do something. I'm just fearful the fact that the report's
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  Speaker 5: coming out that they're not willing to go to that
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  Speaker 5: fifth year. Maybe they were willing to go the thirty
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  Speaker 5: million a year, but they're not thirty a year.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm getting fresh stuff for you. Ready for it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always for it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, John Hayman, Joel Sherman, among others.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of tweets coming in fast and
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  Speaker 1: furious that the Mets were essentially surprised that Pete got
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  Speaker 1: five years. Will Salmon from the Athletics said the Mets
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  Speaker 1: had some interest in bringing Pete back, but they were
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  Speaker 1: not comfortable going to the lengths and figured it ended
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  Speaker 1: up it ended up, but in his deal with the
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  Speaker 1: Orioles it was a much better. His tweet not making
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  Speaker 1: sense to me. Sorry, Anthony Tacobo, I think he misspelled.
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Diacomo said. The Mets never made a formal offer
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  Speaker 1: to Pete Alnzo as it became clear to them the
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  Speaker 1: bidding wasn't heading to places they were interested in going.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Sherman said the same thing, Joel Sherman.
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  Speaker 5: Good for Pete. We thought he was going to get
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  Speaker 5: five years one fifty last year, so he got whatever
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  Speaker 5: he got last year, twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty, got a total.
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  Speaker 1: Of five over you got thirty last year counting last year,
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  Speaker 1: six years one eighty five. And if you took Pete
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  Speaker 1: the free agency last year and said, hey six eighty
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  Speaker 1: five years, sign up for that.
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  Speaker 3: In a freaking harpy, god Boris got him again.
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  Speaker 2: God Boris got him out the city.
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  Speaker 4: Matt Chapman got him. Bragman's gonna get him got him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, opt out for stars are usually a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, what do they do?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Who?
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  Speaker 5: Who the Mets?
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Kroud Caidy, he had a bring back Frankie Montoss.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Find the next montask I said, that Crouds.
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  Speaker 4: Krouch said, David Sarns has a plan, I said, bring
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  Speaker 4: back Frankie Montos.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're they're kind of in a weird
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  Speaker 4: spot because you have one Sodo, you have Lindor, you got,
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  Speaker 4: you got guys. You got to try and go for
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  Speaker 4: it with. But Darren ask our next guest. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what they do.
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  Speaker 5: That's a problem. Did they go after Bragman and move
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: Viento's to first base? Is Bragman a better pickup than
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  Speaker 5: Pete Alonzo? You're never You're never going to find Pete's
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  Speaker 5: Homer's anywhere on the market. Sorry, not Kyle Tucker, not
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  Speaker 5: Cody Bellinger, none of that.
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  Speaker 1: It was Schwarber and Pete and they basically got the
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: same deal. We talked about this yesterday. Kratz I said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: teams like Baltimore didn't get Schwarber, and Baltimore was the
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  Speaker 1: top bidder with Philly, right, they both offered five to
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  Speaker 1: one fifty. And I was asking you how much of
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  Speaker 1: a difference it is between the two players. They're both
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  Speaker 1: monster home run hitters. Yes, Schwarber hit many more.
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  Speaker 2: This year.
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  Speaker 1: It is a more hitter friendly park in Philadelphia than
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  Speaker 1: in Queens.
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  Speaker 3: That is a fact.
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  Speaker 1: So you wait the numbers and they were very close
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  Speaker 1: even last year, where this past season, when just like
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  Speaker 1: an Alf Swrober had an incredible season, it was right there,
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  Speaker 1: very close in terms of metrics that front office is
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: used to evaluate bats. You're not signing Pee for his defense.
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  Speaker 1: You're signing him for his bat and eventually he might
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  Speaker 1: just be a full time DH, and that is okay.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're Baltimore and you were going to sign
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  Speaker 1: a full time DH, you got the quote next best guy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I'm proud of them more than anything.
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  Speaker 4: With the Orioles, they put it out there that they.
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  Speaker 2: Were in on Schwarber and they had the money.
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  Speaker 4: And then, unlike some teams that say like I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: use the Pirates, we keep banging on the pirates, IM
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: want to keep banging on the pirates. The Pirates said,
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  Speaker 4: we had four years one hundred million or four years
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty million, right, whatever their offer was
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  Speaker 4: to Kyle Schwarber. Even the Reds, We'll throw the Reds
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  Speaker 4: out there. The Reds are whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The red yeah whatever.
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  Speaker 4: So they're admitting that they have that money to spend,
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  Speaker 4: so why don't they turn and pivot and go spend
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: it somewhere else. The Orioles did that. The Orioles made
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: their offer to Swarber, he didn't pick them. He went
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: back to the Phillies. They took that money and said,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: you know what, we're going to go for the next
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: best thing, which is Pete Alonso. And they had to
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: pay five million dollars more. But that five million dollars
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: over five years is no okay. And they said, boom,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: we have this money. We've told people we have this money,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: and we're going for it. So kudos Orioles into the
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: other teams. I don't understand how, like the especially the
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Reds and the Pirates, we have this money, but we're
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: not gonna spend it on anyone else. Now, We're just
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: gonna hoard our money.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, there are many free agents left.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: They well, they might take the Pirates.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: They're gonna take that whatever money they had for Kyle
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Schwarber a hundred million and say we're gonna spend it
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: on someone else.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: They should have spent it on Pete I mean, like
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I said, there's similar offensive comps. Pete's two years younger.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: But good for the Baltimore Oriols for coming through there.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Tim Healy is here and we're gonna talk to him
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: right now about the Mets. Actually, Tim, we're gonna take
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you back in the day when you cover the Mets.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Eventually we'll get into the Red Sox with Tim too.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: But I mean, this is the news that sweeps the day,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: and you covered Pete Alnso for a long time.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Your longtime.
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: The Mets had a lot of work to do coming
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: into the week, and now they have so much more
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: work to do, and I don't know how they're gonna
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: do it all. They didn't, they don't have that Diez.
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: They I don't think they were ever gonna gonna keep
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: Pete Alonzo.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: They didn't.
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: They seem kind of lukewarm on him at best the
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: whole time. But where are you gonna get those home runs?
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: As you guys were saying, how are you gonna get
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: a frontline starting pitcher, How are you gonna get another
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: back end reliever or two?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: So they have David Stearns is a smart guy. I'll
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: probably figure it out. But man, they have a lot
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: of work.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: To do, Okay, so I know we're gonna get to
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: the red sux to you, but the Mets, to me,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: are as happy as I'm for the Oreos.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: It's as if you're a Mets fan, you're like, wait,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: what what happened? The last men?
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Fans are desponding.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I feel, yes, right, big pieces. But they still have Sodo,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: they still have Lindor.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: They still have pieces, right, yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: If they don't do anything is do you And I
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: can't believe I'm about to say this. Do you think
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Wan Soto's looking at it like, why the heck did
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I sign here if all these guys are now gone?
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: If he doesn't have a At Wan Soto's introductory press
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: conference basically a year ago this week, he said straight
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: up that he what the Mets needed after signing him
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: was a big right handed bat. That was a not
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: so subtle reference to his fellow Scott Ars client Pete Alonzo.
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: Mets waited it out, eventually got him back on the
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: deal that they did, and it worked out at least
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: for those two statistically, not for the team. Of course,
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: they missed the playoffs. They had a bad year, but
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: without Pete behind Soto. Somebody needs to be They need
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: right handed power from somebody, and they don't necessarily, they
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: really don't have that in house, all right, So.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to transition your previous team to your
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: current team here.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, does this?
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, it obviously opens up first base. The logical thing
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: is they're gonna go Viento's to first just because that's
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: just the generic rhetoric that we just keep hearing. Is
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: there a chance David Stearns likes and Alex Bregman at
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: third better than the combination of Mark Vento said third
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: and Pete at first because of the ad in defense,
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: because of the added leadership winning that Alex Bregman brings.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: And you know, the money's gonna be whatever, twenty million
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: apart it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: So I wonder as well about Alex Bregman and the
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: Mets because he would make a lot of sense for
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: them because they could use a guy like him. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: if they didn't want to give them money to Pete,
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: do they want to give it to Alex Bregman, who's
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: just a little bit older, better defender, had an injury
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: last year. Like, there's a lot of moving pieces there,
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: But from what I understand they really like Brett Batty
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: and he's penciled in that third base right now.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: So I don't know what Mark Fiento's steal is going
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: Maybe first base, maybe some Jeff McNeil at first base.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Maybe they add somebody like Paul Goldschmidt. He had a
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: great twenty twenty four and then not great twenty twenty five.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: So I don't know what to make of Mark Fiento's
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: I don't so, and I'm not sure the Mets do either.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Hence, where does he fit in?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: Maybe part time for his base.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: That's not really a huge, huge role, So there's DHT
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: bats to be had. Like I said, the Mets have
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: a lot.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Of holes and.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Aren't really spending big on individual players right now to
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: fill them.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Quick question, do you think that the Red Sox had
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: real interest in Pete but they had to wait.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: For I know miners saying is that the Red Sox
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: preferred Regman but liked both. They were engaged with Pete
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: playing to meet with Pete last night. I didn't confirm
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: that that actually happened, but it was on the agenda.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: A gold crowd on the street.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: There you go, you're on top of it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Just yesterday was yesterday.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So they were in on Pete and I thought
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: it was going to happen, to be honest, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: people talk about his wife being from Quincy in a
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: match there, Fenway Park, perfect fit, all that stuff. If
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: you're right handed, Hitory'd rather be at Fenway the Camden Yards,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: all things considered. But five years, one hundred and fifty
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: five million dollars is gonna do a lot of convincing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: So the Oils got it done. Took it away from
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: the Red Sox.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Kratz's favorite two words and sports in on Red Sox.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Were in.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Or.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: We tried to try nd up with Pete. Okay, we
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: tried one more on Pete.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Tell me what the Orioles are getting and you cover
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the Ale East?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, how.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Does this change the Ale East? Like, give me your
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: peat impact slash Orioles take.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: So he's exactly what the Ools needed, right. They have
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: all those young guys and it didn't go great in
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. Now they have a veteran who's gonna
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: be good for thirty five to forty home runs one
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: hundred plus RBIs and you put him in the middle
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: of the lineup, take a pressure off Gunner, Henderson, Jackson,
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: Holiday Westburg, et cetera. And maybe the Oils start to
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: cook with gas next year. Uh, they still need to
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: figure out the pitching thing, but I'm sure they're on
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: top of it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: As the Ale East.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I don't want to go right past that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Wells the Oils are not a perpanct sea. Yes, it's
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: that they have play more work to do, absolutely, because
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: the Ale East is so good. The Blue Jays almost
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: won the World Series. The Yankees won as many games
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: as the Blue Jays in the regular season, and you
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: gotta figure they're going to be there every year. The
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Red Sox, we'll see how the off season goes, but
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: they made the playoffs. They should be building on that
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: crochet fully of Roman Anthony, all that good stuff. They
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: have a good foundation. They need their other pieces. We'll
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: see how that goes for them. And then the Rays
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: are always a little bit of a wild card. So
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: it's the Ale East is loaded and Alonso helps the Oriols.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: But I don't know that the Orioles are better than
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: the third or fourth best team right now in the division.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Let's go to the Red Sox. Then are they making
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: sure they're not bidding against themselves with Alex Bregman because
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: of the impact we've talked about it, like the impact
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: he made on the team last year. Did they have
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: to be leary of that because of who else really
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: is in on him?
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: That's a great question.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: And there hasn't been a lot of buzz right that
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: sounds like the Tigers aren't super keen on it. There
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: was a report about the Cubs last week, and you
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: know they you know, they're just posturing probably, but they
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: do have Matt Shaw like they're not desperate for Alex
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: Bregman even if they like him. Who else is in
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: on Alex Bregman? I don't really know. So the Red
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: Sox do have to be careful of that. They're a
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: very under Craig Bresla, a very patient, deliberate, intentional operation.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: So there, I don't think they're gonna bit against themselves.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: But guys are coming off the board. Schwarber's gone, they
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: never made an offer, Pete's gone. The pressure is on
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: the Red Sox now, I think to do what it
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: takes to keep Alex Bregman.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the Red Sox, you know, need Bregmant. They
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: love Bragman.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Obviously, this causes the answer first base, because that's like
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: the one question that nobody can answer. Right. They had
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: to go get into Thaniel Litt last ye because Cossus
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: can't stay healthy. They had Toro and Romey Gonzalz thero
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: the one year Bragman. If they get Bregman, he solidifies third. Right,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: we know that story. Whoever's at tewod Meyer or Campbell,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: whoever that person is, the outfield's really was set catching set.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: First base is.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: The one place that you're still like, Yeah, where the
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Red Sox at?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Is that Tristan Cassus.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: I don't think that's that's I don't think it is
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: because he's been injured most of the past two years,
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: So how can you possibly count on that, never mind
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: the fact that it was a major, major knee injury,
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: and I'm not totally sure he'll be fully healthy and
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: ready to go on opening day.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: He has to.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: He's at a point in his career when he where
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: he needs to re establish himself, and I don't think
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: that is going to come at the beginning of twenty
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: twenty six. As the everyday first baseman for the Red Sox.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: They still like him. There's still plenty of talent and
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: strength and power there and all of that stuff. He's
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: not old by means. He's twenty four, I believe. And yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's castles. I think there's going to
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: need to be another answer, whether that's maybe you Hennio Suarez,
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: who they've red Sox have been in touch with and
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: interested in. I think there's mutual interest there. So first
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: bases very much open the air, and so yeah, good.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Things to talk about for bad.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, just does the crazy stuff. He
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: gives you something to talk about.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody loves stuff to talk about, especially especially.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: What about the catching position, because I had I think
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: it was your article that said there's a possibility with
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: real Muto and not saying it would be real Muto
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: just because of how it works. But like the the
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: the decline from the start of the year for Carlos Nervaiaz,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: some concerns about different things. Is this is this a
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: position where they're looking for kind of like a not
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: a platoon but like a half and half situation, or
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: would they go to the top of the trade market
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: with like an Adlie well Adeley wouldn't go there for Baltimore,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: But like, would they make a big splash at the
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: catching position or do they feel fine with Carlos Nervians?
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: I think, and the change at catcher is a really
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: down ballot off season potential plan.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Credit where it's due.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: That was the athletic that rink that linked initially the
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: Red Sox to JT.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Real Muto.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: I have confirmed that they've sniffed around on him, but
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: it doesn't make a ton of sense off the bat
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: this offseason. Right they have Carlos Narvaiaz and he was
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: way more than they thought he was going to be
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: coming into twenty twenty five and took that starting job
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: and tired at the end, and you know, didn't have
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: as good as second half as he had a first half.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: He was, in my opinion, a borderline All Star in
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: the first half. But he's a great defensive catcher, a
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: great framer. The pitchers love him, so a change there,
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: I don't think is at the top of the agenda
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: right now. If a bunch more bats come off the
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: board and they believe JT. Real Muto is gonna bounce back,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: then yeah, I could see them going that route. But
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: I just don't think it's a primary consideration right now,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: as much as I do like JT. Real Muttos as
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: a player, one of my favorite players to watch for
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: the past, you know, seven six, seven, eight years.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: What do you think of.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: The moves the Red Sox have made thus far with
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Sonny Gray and Johann Oviedo acquisitions and compared to what
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you've seen the rest of the division.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Do I know we're early in the aufice.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's fine. The Red Sox have a
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: ton of starting depth right now. They have probably you
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: could probably build two rotations comfortably with what they've got.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: Johann Oviedo's a little bit of a not quite a
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: lottery ticket because he's pitched in the Major's plenty, but
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: the Red Sox think there's upside there and they liked
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: what he saw what they saw in his nine starts
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: back from Tommy John surgery. Before that, hadn't pitched since
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty three. So with Sonny Gray, he's a good pitcher.
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: You know, he's going to be healthy, or at least has
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: been historically and two hundred strikeouts front of the rotation,
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: been an All Star in the past, like he's He's
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: been there, done that veteran presence, and that's good. I'm
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: not I'm staying open minded to the Red Sox potentially
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: adding another starting pitcher by opening day. I think it's
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: going to be you know, they can go with Sonny
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: Gray as their number two, but he's not that true
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: number two or better yet, that one bee to Garrett Crochet.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: So let's see what happens the next three months.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: This is I guess why gms don't talk very much.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: But Craig reslo, Or, President of Baseball Operations, said they
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: wanted to get They're not looking for threes and fours.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: They're looking for fours and fives. They're looking for that
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: one bee. Like you just said, did they accomplish this
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: or did they accomplish it by saying, well, we'll get
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: two threes.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: I don't think they quite accomplish it. And I do
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: like Sunny Gray. He's a very useful pitcher. Would pitch
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: in a playoff rotation for anybody. Absolutely, But I think
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: if you're talking about competing with the Blue Jays who
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: just added Dylan Cease, or the Yankees, who in theory
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: will have Garrett Cole coming back, or you know, midway
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: through the season and have Max Freed as their one
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: two punch. The Red Sox don't quite have that true
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: one bee as you said, but like I said, I'm
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: staying open minded to that changing between now an opening day,
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: never mind the trade deadline, by the time the playoffs
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: roll around.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, So you have to understand Krats.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: His favorite picture in the planet is ovi Aedo, So okay,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: it broke his heart when he got traded because he
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: was just such a such a fan for the last.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Couple of years.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: He always talked, I mean, the guy's gigantic, he's got
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: great stuff, but I did not really stand out. You
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: don't understand the big disc guy. But my question about
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the pitching is, yes, you have Crostchet, Yes, Sonny Gray's
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: a nice pickup Oviate.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Can he stay healthy? How do they get more?
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: You say they have depth, right, and they have some
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: young kids who came up in tonight show, But how
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: do they get more out of their pitching other than
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Crochet Because the rest of those guys, Sony kraz A,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: five inning guy Oviedo, it wasn't hurt.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So can the Red Sox and Craig Breslow figure out
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: how to get more out of the guys that they
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: have acquired.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: So you're starting Craig Breslo, the pitching infrastructure whiz with
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: the Cubs, came to the Red Sox two years ago
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: and that was a big part of his whole deal.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: And you're starting to see that trickle up to the
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: major leagues in the form of Peyton Toley made it
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: to big leagues in his first professional season, Connelly early
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: got to the big leagues faster. He drafted in twenty
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: twenty three, got to the big leagues faster, throwing harder
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: than really anybody reasonably expected, in a very short amount
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: of time, eighteen months after we got drafted. So it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: part of that whole bottom up pitching approach, and you're
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: so you're starting to see it, Uh, you know, it's
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: it's Crochet Gray, bo O, Vi Eedo, Santoval's coming back
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: from injury, Crawford's coming back from injury. Those are like
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: the top six, and then after that you got Hunter Dobbins,
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: Peyton Totley, Connolly Early, Luis Paralys is a super interesting prospect,
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: and then behind them, further away, Kyson Witherspoon, first round
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: draft pick in June might open the season in Double A,
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: which would be a heck of a feet that would
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: put him with success, not a guarantee on the major
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: league radar for by the end of the season. So
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: the Red Sox like their pitching pipeline. The proof is
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: starting to be in the pudding. But you know, whether
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: they groom, whether they have a homegrown number two in
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: their time will tell.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Okay, Sonny Gray, Yeah, took shots at the Red Sox
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: or the Yankees.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fun.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Hunter Dobbins shots at the Yankees. Schlitler, Yeah, took his
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: shots at the Red Sox fans. Do we have Yankee
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Red Sox back now? Is it back to what it was.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Ten to fifteen, twenty years ago? Back? It's the three?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, it would be so hard to be that hot. True,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: but I would have.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Got actual players now taking shots, yes, at organizations and fans.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good stuff, right.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: I fully support all of those players in those endeavors.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: I think it's a lot of fun. Baseball's better when
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: Red Sox.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: As much as all the fans hate it, they're like,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: it's Red Sox Yankees again. When those two are going good,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: nothing's better, especially when they're both really trying, like it
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: seems like they are now and they're spending the money
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: because if you remember like three to zero four, before
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: the Red Sox won, they're like, oh, the Yankees got
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: this guy. We got to go get this guy, and
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: then or the Red Sox got him with the Yankees
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: were like, we got to go get him.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So I think it's great.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I I am.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And it's always better when the players are talking trash.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: That's absolutely true and better.
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: Yet when they have like bona fide animosity toward the
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: organization is one thing, but sometimes he cho that's the
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: next level right with an the benches start clear and
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: stuff like that. So it's not to that level of
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: rivalry heat right now, but we can hope.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Right let's charge munt. Let's get to some other signings.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: If you're just joining us now. We spent a lot
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: of time talking about the Pee Alonzo signing and the aftermath,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: but there have been a few other little moves. Gregory
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Soto signs with the Pirates. That was late last night.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: One year, seven point seventy five million dollars. You can't
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: just look at Era. We get told that over and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: over again, especially with a reliever you know, it's a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: low fours Thera pitching for Baltimore and the Mets.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: He's a guy though.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Remember when he was with the Tigers, he was an
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: All Star and people are like, this is the next
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: great pitcher, and he was, and then he got traded
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: in then he had the thing where he couldn't you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: he wanted to be the closer and they're like, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: don't throw enough strikes, and it's.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: He's one of those guys.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: It's like he's got all the stuff in the world,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: but Candy harness it and maybe the Pirates can figure
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, sure, but hey, you know what they moved. They moved.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: They moved. They moved in the direction of what do
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: you need. You need a solid seventh eight inning guy,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: You need to have a closer in the bullpen. I
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: think they already have those pieces set, so I think
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: adding a guy like this Gregorysoto just a one year deal.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: I love that they went and went into the pocket.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Did the job. Now, like we talk about the Orioles,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: what's the next thing some offense the Orioles that was
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: starting pitching. We'll see if they do something the Pirates.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Awesome job, great job, Pirates, Pirates, great job. Make sure
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: you guys clip that.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I don't even I've been so busy, I don't even
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: know what you're referring to in terms of the bit
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: roll that you're dealing with, but I guess I'll check
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it out. On socials, we also have a show called
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Bucko Territory. I encourage you to check that out for
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: more on this signing and what the Tigers or excuse me,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the Pirates are up to. But speaking of the Tigers,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Kyle Finnigan two years, nineteen million bucks, so he was
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: more coveted this offseason and he moved over to the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: team that ends up signing him back.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Remember he had a hard time.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: He did really well for the Tigers too.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had the splitter usage skyrocket.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: And he was really good for him. So he did
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: really well this offseason. Great guy, good guess when we've
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: had him on. So I'm happy for him. And listen,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: that's a nice piece will Vest and some of the
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: other guys that they have, some of the younger guys
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: that they have, and you throw Finnigan into the back
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: end of this bullpen. Now they still need a starter
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: for me, and they still need another bullpen piece and
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: they still need a bat and.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: They got to figure out.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: We didn't have time with hint yesterday, but I just
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: wanted to know how they figure out how to cut
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: down the strikeouts they have, because if you watched their
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: and I will obviously watch their playoff series, their playoff
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: series was all strikeouts like this, struck out. I was
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: fifteen times a game. It was everybody, strikeout, striker, strike out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I Thinkerry Carboner would come up and hit a home run.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Other than that, it was like strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: And it's a hard way to live.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: The answer, by the way, Kratz, I'll say, after you.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Say, what's that, I didn't hear what you said.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: The answer, well, I mean, do you remember Aj Perzinski
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: said to Aj Hinch, I wish we had more time.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the swing and miss
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I don't know, you might have gotten lost.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And then another conversation with someone, but he was like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: when our guys go up to the dish, they are
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: trying to make contact.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I understand I know this, Listen, I trust I
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: know they are trying to make contact. There's an old
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: saying I can get anybody to try right, like I
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: can get any something to try right. But you can
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: listen as a guy that made a lot of contact,
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: and I was, there was a couple I went to
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: some teams and like, hey, we want you to take more. Well,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: then it took away what I was good at, which
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: was making contact.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: So there is a fine line of but I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: there are ways to make more contact.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: But he also said if you remember what he also
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: said though, he goes, sometimes guys take too many and
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: then they fall behind instead of being aggressive and getting
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: three swings instead of two swings or one swing. He's like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: so there's a there's a way to do it. That's
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: I just wish, you know. That's why Bragmant I feel
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: like fits so well for them. But the high content
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: and then he can teach some of these other guys,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: hey you're looking for this pitch, don't miss it again.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: They're not trying to miss it. I mean, no one
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: ever wanted to strike out well, Adam done it a
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: couple of times. Best line ever, I'd just strike out
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Donner because I thought I was going to hit into
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: a double play, so I figured only make one out
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: instead of two. So are those.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Guys I think. I think the Tiger's going in on
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Finnegan here show that the eighteen innings that he threw
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: for them and then subsequently into the playoffs, the bump
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: in the strikeout rate is what the issue was with
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: his value, his value on the trade market two years ago.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Finally the Tigers went and got him, and we looked
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: at him and we go Tigers needed to pick up
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: strikeout guys, and they didn't get one in Finegan, who
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: was averaging less than one per inning. And when he
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: went there, I think it was like twenty three or
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: twenty five strikeouts and eighteen innings. Like they used that
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: splitter a little bit differently than it was being used
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: in Washington, and so I think that's awesome. That's that's
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: huge value there. I think it shows that eighteen million
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: two years for closer, eighth inning guy type is you
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: know what you're looking for and to add leverage to
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: your bullpen probably you know, maybe not the closer that
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: the Robert Suarez are, the Pete Fairbanks type, but I mean, good,
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: good for the Tigers. They still need more strikeouts. They
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: didn't take their strikeouts from their lineup and put them
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: in the bullpen, and the bullpen guys who don't strike
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: out much many many batters. The hitters need to take it,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: take advantage of that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And hey, I don't want to say we're being tough
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: on Detroit, but it's more of a motivational thing.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: This team is close. They've got some pieces here that can.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: More coming to the next level, some more coming. They've
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: gone to go there with sax Fark when joke comes back, Melton,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: if he takes the next step as a starter and
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I do it is legit.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and think about it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: They were that close to take them down, the Mariners,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: who were that close to taking down the Blue Jays.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: What a place it was this playoffs, it was this
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: is the year like this. If you don't trade Schoogle,
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: we talked about it yesterday, you gotta go all in.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: What does that all in look like? Small pieces like
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: Kyle Finnegan,