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Chuck & Buck 6-3 Hour 2: Headlines and Danielle Lawrie, we're reached acceptance... almost and Reckless at Breakfast. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Is racing over smut.
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  Speaker 2: It's the cash incredible, that's the ball game. It's an
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  Speaker 2: eight game winning streak for the Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: What a highlight to put a cap on it.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron just has to laugh. Yeah, it's funny because it's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Oh cold, it's a quote coming to America.
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  Speaker 1: Devil was good. Yes, good morning to you.
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  Speaker 2: It is Chuck and Ashley with you as we roll
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  Speaker 2: into our seven o'clock hour here on this home day
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  Speaker 2: edition of the radio program. Coming up in two minutes,
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  Speaker 2: we will chat with a local sports.
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  Speaker 1: Legend about a lot of things going on.
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  Speaker 2: I got a million questions for this legend coming up
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  Speaker 2: here in about two minutes, But let's first get to
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  Speaker 2: your headlines, brought to you by Frost Brewed cors Light.
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  Speaker 2: That's Mariners TV calling the final out last night's eight
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  Speaker 2: three win over the New York Mets for the Seattle Mariners,
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  Speaker 2: who've now won eight games in a row. They've moved
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  Speaker 2: four games over five hundred and are still two and
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  Speaker 2: a half games up in first place in the American
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  Speaker 2: League West. They can win their not just win their
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  Speaker 2: third straight series, but sweep their third straight series today,
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  Speaker 2: twelve to forty. First pitch. George Kirby will go for
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  Speaker 2: the good guys. Freddy Peralta will pitch for the Mets.
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  Speaker 2: They will not pull that opener thing again like they
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  Speaker 2: have the first two nights. Number one, they've run out
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  Speaker 2: of long relievers, and number two, Freddy Peralta is a
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  Speaker 2: bona fide all star starter, so they'll go with him
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  Speaker 2: to start the game and he will go a lengthy
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  Speaker 2: time into the game. I'm sure Kirby versus Peralta today
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  Speaker 2: at twelve forty. The Men's Super Regional in college baseball,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get going on Friday, and it'll go without the
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  Speaker 2: top two ranked teams in America, Georgia Tech and UCLA.
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  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Women's College World Series.
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tech versus Texas gets started tonight, game one of
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  Speaker 2: a three game series between those two state rivals. First
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  Speaker 2: pitch at five o'clock. We'll be talking about that in
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  Speaker 2: about thirty seconds from now. NBA Finals tip tonight in
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  Speaker 2: San Antonio, Texas between the Spurs and the Knicks. Stanley
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  Speaker 2: Cup Final got started last night with Las Vegas winning
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  Speaker 2: five to four over the Carolina Hurricanes to get things going.
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  Speaker 1: They are three wins away.
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  Speaker 2: The Golden Knights from the Stanley Cup Championship. Seahawks extended
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  Speaker 2: Derek Hull yesterday to a contract extension that'll pay him
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  Speaker 2: about fourteen million dollars per season. And of course, Miles
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  Speaker 2: Garrett was introduced in Los Angeles yesterday as a brand
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  Speaker 2: new Ram, while AJ Brown called being a New England
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  Speaker 2: Patriot the closest thing to heaven yesterday, even though I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure he went to a better team. So there
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  Speaker 2: you go. Those are your headlines. They are brought to
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  Speaker 2: you by Frost Browed Corps. Light Choose Chill joining us
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  Speaker 2: now on the program. One of the finest athletes in
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  Speaker 2: the history of this yere city. This year state she
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  Speaker 2: won a national championship as the National Player of the
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  Speaker 2: Year for You dub in two thousand and nine, and
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  Speaker 2: now you can see her on the desk in Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: City as the studio analyst for the Women's College World
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  Speaker 2: Series that will resume tonight Texas versus Texas Tech, joining
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  Speaker 2: us as she has a couple of times in the past.
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  Speaker 2: The legendary Danielle Laurie is with us here on Chuck
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  Speaker 2: and Buck. How are you Danielle? Hello, Danielle, are you there?
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  Speaker 3: I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh there you are, Heary, I can hear you now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for some reason, there was a warble and now
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  Speaker 2: you're sound crystal clear.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know what happened, but it's great to
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  Speaker 1: have you with us. How are you? How are things
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  Speaker 1: in Oklahoma?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 3: They're good. It's hot. I forget every year I come
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  Speaker 3: back here and I'm like, people can deal with ninety
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  Speaker 3: Like ninety seven. It was Monday for those four games. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I just could not believe it. Almost kind of felt
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  Speaker 3: a little unsafe for those first two games because Texas
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  Speaker 3: and Tennessee obviously played too, and I was just we
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  Speaker 3: did our hit after game one and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: think I gotta go sit in the green room. I
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  Speaker 3: can't sit out here in ninety seven and watch this.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: You got too much Pacific Northwest in you. Now that's
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  Speaker 1: the problem.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know. I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. What is the scene like in Oklahoma City?
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  Speaker 2: I mean they go on and on and on about.
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  Speaker 1: Omaha, Omaha, this Omaha. That is what has Oklahoma City
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  Speaker 1: turned into?
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  Speaker 2: Because this sport just seems to be getting more and
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  Speaker 2: more popular. I think the product keeps getting better and better,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm wondering how that affects the entire week of
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  Speaker 2: being in Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, there was a lot of questions
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  Speaker 3: about this world series kicking off because Oklahoma wasn't in it.
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  Speaker 3: It was going to be I think the first time
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  Speaker 3: in ten years where we weren't going to have them,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously Oklahoma polls well. But what I loved was
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  Speaker 3: that Thursday night, like was the a record high attendance,
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  Speaker 3: the most ever that has shown up in Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 3: And to me, it just kind of shows like really
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  Speaker 3: every year it gets a little bit bigger and a
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  Speaker 3: little bit bigger from the viewers that tune in and
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  Speaker 3: watch on TV, from the fans that will meet over
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  Speaker 3: on the studio set, like bringing their kids, or you
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  Speaker 3: have some women that'll come up that have been Stuppball
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  Speaker 3: fans for years that are doing girls trips. Here saw
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  Speaker 3: a lady talking about coming on this trip like with
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  Speaker 3: her dad, like this was like a bucket list to
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  Speaker 3: go with her father and sit and watch it. So
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  Speaker 3: it really is. It's special, right. It's just I remember
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  Speaker 3: back in two thousand and nine and how incredible it
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  Speaker 3: felt then, which it still was had the allfield bleachers,
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  Speaker 3: they hadn't extended up top and upper deck. But I
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  Speaker 3: mean the amount of cameras that our ESGN crew has
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  Speaker 3: and the attention to detail on the littlest things like
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  Speaker 3: these women are getting to get documented in such an
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  Speaker 3: insane way, it just it makes for a really great shows.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's turned into a great show for sure. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Ashley and I have been singing its praises throughout the
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  Speaker 2: last few weeks about what a great product that the
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  Speaker 2: softball game is right now at the college level, which
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  Speaker 2: is something that I want to dive into you with
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  Speaker 2: in a moment. But let's just stick with present day.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have the right two teams meeting up here
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  Speaker 2: in the finals? Are we getting ready for a good
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  Speaker 2: show here the next two to three nights?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean we do. Listen those I went into
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  Speaker 3: Monday thinking that Tennessee and Alabama were going to come
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  Speaker 3: out simply because those two teams had to get be twice.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a feat, right when you can be the
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  Speaker 3: team twice in the same day with just the heat,
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  Speaker 3: the pressure, all the different things. And both Texas and
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech were able to do that, which to me
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  Speaker 3: was incredible to witness because you just see these women
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  Speaker 3: like competing at such a high level and to compete
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  Speaker 3: for fourteen innings and come out on top and punch
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  Speaker 3: your ticket to go to the final, Like, there really
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  Speaker 3: is nothing like it. Right, you think of last year
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  Speaker 3: with Tech and Texas in the finals, and it pretty
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  Speaker 3: much just be in Nigerie Kennedy that was kind of
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  Speaker 3: that main woman on Texas Tech. Well, obviously the is
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  Speaker 3: in rebuilding and just to kind of look at this,
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  Speaker 3: it almost feels like a perfect storm. Like I woke
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  Speaker 3: up earlier today and I was like, wow, Like I
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  Speaker 3: feel so lucky to be able to like go to
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  Speaker 3: the field tonight and sit and watch. It's almost like
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  Speaker 3: I get the game day emotions of what it felt
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  Speaker 3: like competing for a national championship. You're like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: we're like we're really doing this. And both these two
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  Speaker 3: teams get the opportunity to do it again against each other,
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  Speaker 3: Texas seeking its second national championship and Tech, of course,
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  Speaker 3: last year's the first time they've ever been to the
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  Speaker 3: Women's College World Series and they make it to the final,
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  Speaker 3: and this year they're back trying to win an addie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Daniel Laurie is with us. She's going to be
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  Speaker 2: on the desk again tonight for the studio show and
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  Speaker 2: for the next two to three night says the Women's
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  Speaker 2: College World Series. The championship Series begins starting tonight at
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  Speaker 2: five o'clock. You are the perfect person to ask this to.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, as a baseball fan and a former baseball
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  Speaker 2: player at the college level myself, I mean, the pitcher
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  Speaker 2: throws every five days. That's the most that we can
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  Speaker 2: tax an arm that goes over the top. Obviously in
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  Speaker 2: softball pitchers can pitch a lot more than that coming underneath.
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  Speaker 1: But what is too much?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm watching these pitchers pitch both ends of
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  Speaker 2: a double header, and then all of a sudden they'll
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  Speaker 2: leave the game and you think they're tired, and the
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  Speaker 2: next thing you look up in the seventh and they're
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  Speaker 2: warming back up again to come back into the game.
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  Speaker 1: Where's the limit?
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  Speaker 2: Where even Daniel Laurie was like, you're throwing me too much.
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  Speaker 2: I can't my arm can't hold up.
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  Speaker 3: The limit doesn't exist. That's what I felt like when
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  Speaker 3: I competed listen back in the day, I drew over
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  Speaker 3: I think the year we won the National Championship over
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  Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty innings that year, like that was
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  Speaker 3: all that we knew. And yeah, there were some days
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  Speaker 3: that UMass fifteen inning game and where I had definite
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  Speaker 3: to take three to four days off after that. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean, these women here, like you're at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the road, right, You're either going to win the
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  Speaker 3: National Championship or not, Like they will do whatever it
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  Speaker 3: is and there's not a risk of something happening to
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  Speaker 3: their arm or hurting it. I think it sometimes comes
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  Speaker 3: more down to like how mentally, like present, can you
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  Speaker 3: really be every pitch because you are tired at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the season a little bit right, and adrenaline
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  Speaker 3: play such a h PR. So I think it comes
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  Speaker 3: down to like those teams that are able to like
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  Speaker 3: endure the pressure, which of course like Texas remembers what
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  Speaker 3: it's like to win, and if I'm in the circle,
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  Speaker 3: like those are definitely things that are upstairs in the
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  Speaker 3: mental piggy bank give me a little extra confidence going
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  Speaker 3: into a game like tonight. But also if you're tech
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  Speaker 3: and you pretty much have two arms that you're using
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  Speaker 3: multiple times, like on Monday, we saw one game where
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  Speaker 3: they did six pitching changes with the same two pitchers,
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  Speaker 3: back and forth, back and forth, and you know, people
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  Speaker 3: definitely have their opinions about it, like that's not how
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  Speaker 3: Stopple should work in all of this. But I mean
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  Speaker 3: they have two stud athletes that can hit, play a
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  Speaker 3: position on the field, and pitch. So as a hitter,
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  Speaker 3: like what I want to face Caitlyn Terry the left
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  Speaker 3: EA throw on seventy one at bat to Nija the
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  Speaker 3: next with her rise ball at seventy like it benefits
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  Speaker 3: the way it benefits their team, the way that you know,
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech needs to use that to their advantage. So
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  Speaker 3: every pitcher will be on deck, you know that. But
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  Speaker 3: there is no risk in anything for arm or anything
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  Speaker 3: like that. Like I said, I think it's more mentally,
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  Speaker 3: like how sharp are you in these moments?
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  Speaker 1: How hard did you thrill?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that was back. We both had both feet on
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  Speaker 3: the mound, which was a crime. I think that was
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  Speaker 3: probably my biggest flex. I believe that, Yeah, both of
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  Speaker 3: our feet had to touch that damn mound. And you
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  Speaker 3: look now and these pictures can have their back foot
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  Speaker 3: all the way off. Like So to answer your question,
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  Speaker 3: I was anywhere from sixty six to about seventy miles
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  Speaker 3: an hour. But I believe the pitchers back in the
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  Speaker 3: day had the option to have their backfoot off. I
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  Speaker 3: think it adds an additional two miles an hour, potentially three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Daniel Lourie is.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot in that.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Laurie is with us here on Chuck a Buck
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  Speaker 2: in the Morning, talking about the Women's College World Series,
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  Speaker 2: which starts tonight. You, dub has not won a national
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  Speaker 2: championship since you won it in two thousand and three,
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  Speaker 2: or shooting me two thousand and nine, didn't mean to
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  Speaker 2: make you older two thousand and nine, hasn't been to
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  Speaker 2: the tournament since since this tomorrow, actually in twenty twenty three. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Heather tar runs a quality, great program, And yet are
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  Speaker 2: you tired of having to describe Texas, Texas Tech UCLA,
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma year after year at this new broadcasting job.
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  Speaker 1: That you have.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I listen. I remember being in the sand,
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  Speaker 3: not in the stands. I remember it was my first
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  Speaker 3: or second studio set. I think in twenty nineteen when
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  Speaker 3: Washington made it to the national championship. It was either
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  Speaker 3: eighteen or nineteen. I think it was nineteen, but that
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  Speaker 3: I think was the coolest experience ever getting to be here,
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  Speaker 3: like watching it as the fan and then working the
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  Speaker 3: event and just rooting so hard, but not you can't
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  Speaker 3: show it. I can't be a homer, right, Like I
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  Speaker 3: can't be that girl that's just like freaking out while
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to do my job. But it's because I've
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  Speaker 3: lead Purple and Gold. Like all I know is you know,
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  Speaker 3: University of Washington and coach Tar still there and Lance Glasso,
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  Speaker 3: who is my pitching coach, like the most incredible people
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  Speaker 3: that gave me the best opportunity that realistically changed my life.
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  Speaker 3: Like when I look at it, like I'm so grateful
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  Speaker 3: for what Stoppfall has given me, but them taking that
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  Speaker 3: chance for me to go to Washington and being the
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  Speaker 3: first Canadian ever, Like that's why I still live in Seattle,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's it's just a big part of my life.
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  Speaker 3: My kids and my husband, like we love going to
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  Speaker 3: games and being around the program, and so yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: want to get them back anyway you know that we can.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just I think this game goes to show
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  Speaker 3: you how damn hard it is. It is hard to
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  Speaker 3: get here. It really is sometimes it takes a little luck.
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  Speaker 3: But you know I say this every single year. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's a new opportunity. I know Washington has a couple
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  Speaker 3: great freshmen coming in. I actually saw Alexis de Bor.
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  Speaker 3: She came up by the studio set yesterday or the
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  Speaker 3: day before the day before Monday, and you know, I
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  Speaker 3: just was talking with her. She was there because her
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  Speaker 3: dad was there obviously with Bama, and but it was
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  Speaker 3: just really good to see her, and like, to me,
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  Speaker 3: she's a front runner, and she's that like leader for
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  Speaker 3: your program, right Like, so I'm always excited for Washington,
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  Speaker 3: and man, I would do anything to get him back,
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  Speaker 3: to get him back here.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard from a little birdie that your daughters are
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  Speaker 2: really good at softball.
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  Speaker 1: So is it like a given that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be going to U dub what's going on there?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: No given. Would I love that? Yes, I would absolutely
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  Speaker 3: love that. Do I try to have that conversation with
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  Speaker 3: my daughter every day? No? I just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: I don't you know what.
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  Speaker 3: I think if I have learned any anything throughout the sport,
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  Speaker 3: like the beauty of when I was in the position
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  Speaker 3: to choose where I wanted to go, Like, did my
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  Speaker 3: parents want me to stay close to home, Yes, but
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  Speaker 3: I never felt any sense of pressure. And I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: if my kids don't forget to that point, they're still
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  Speaker 3: young man, Like Maddie's twelve, Audrey's nine, Like they're young.
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  Speaker 3: I want sports to stay fun. I want you to
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  Speaker 3: want to win and compete, but like, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: them to feel any sense of the pressure of those
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  Speaker 3: things yet. And hopefully if they get to that space
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  Speaker 3: in their life where they're going to be good enough
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  Speaker 3: to compete at the collegiate level, it doesn't mean I
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  Speaker 3: won't offer my suggestion. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: they earn the right, Like they've been putting in the work,
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  Speaker 3: they punch, you know, that ticket to go where they
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  Speaker 3: want to go. So they know Washington, my love, they're
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  Speaker 3: around it all the time. But you know, at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, I got to let my girls
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  Speaker 3: go and choose wherever it is that they feel they
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  Speaker 3: want to, you know, give four years of their life.
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  Speaker 3: But man, that's too far down the road. I don't
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  Speaker 3: even want to think about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll let them stay yet, we'll let them stay young.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Daniel Laurie legendary Daniel Laurie is with us.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you this before we wrap it up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say something that might be seemed as controversial,
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  Speaker 2: but I want to see what your reaction to it
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  Speaker 2: might be. It feels to me like women's sports have
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  Speaker 2: obviously had a really hard time nudging in there in
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  Speaker 2: the man's space and professional sports for attention and obviously
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  Speaker 2: for finances, and yet it seems to me like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of attention gets paid to women's basketball and trying
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  Speaker 2: to prove to all men you should watch it and
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  Speaker 2: give it a chance, and not nearly as much attention
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  Speaker 2: is given toward softball and volleyball, which I might argue
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  Speaker 2: Danielle are much better products. I think that women's softball
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  Speaker 2: game is to me as entertaining as a college baseball game,
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  Speaker 2: and a women's volleyball game is just as good as
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  Speaker 2: a men's volleyball game. I don't personally feel that way
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  Speaker 2: about the game of basketball, and yet it seems like
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  Speaker 2: all the attention is trying to get people to watch
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  Speaker 2: women's basketball, and I think it short changes sports that
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  Speaker 2: are a lot more entertaining and are and are a
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  Speaker 2: lot higher level of competition, and I want to just
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  Speaker 2: see what your reaction to my controversial statement is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think when you go to a restaurant,
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  Speaker 3: it's not just the same thing on the menu, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like people have different opinions about what they enjoy watching
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  Speaker 3: and what they don't like to watch. I won't disagree
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: with that, but what I will say is, like, I
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: feel like the women's professional ranks right now, with athletes
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: unlimited and the AUSL, like it's getting a lot bigger, right,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: So they've added the two expansion teams here, they're all
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: in like local cities, and like, I think that that
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: is only going to make it that much bigger in
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: a year or a year or two. Like the amount
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: of people that like tuned in last year, right, Because
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the AUFL kicks off literally right after the women's College
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: World Series, So it goes right from watching that straight
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: into watching all of these women that have all competed
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: at the highest level at the World Series and playing overseas.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I will watch a little hoops every
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: now and again. But if you were to ask if
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: there was a softball game on and I get to
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: watch that or watch watch women's bastball I'm going to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: watch softball, but I gravitate more towards that. Of course,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: it's just continuing to get bigger and better from the
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: softball piece, it really is. There is so many games
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: that are televised. I know the for AU this summer
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: AUSL the finals are going to be on ABC. So
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: there's just there's a lot of great things and it's
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: just continuing to get bigger and badder and better. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I always every year I pinch myself that I'm someone
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: that gets to just talk about softball and be in
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma City with my friends, sitting up at a desk,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: acting like we've been there once before. Right, So it's
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: just tomatoes, tomatoes. Everyone you know likes a certain thing
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: they don't, but man, women's softball really it's the real deal.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the real deal. Is it is really
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: entering to watch, There's no getting around it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: All.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Right, last thing, just two quick things, what are you
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: going to do to stay cool tonight for the World Series?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And then who's going to end up winning this?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: We actually get to call the alternate broadcast after our
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: our studio show, so I always look forward to that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: We sit up on the desk, we get to wear
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: whatever we want. We don't have to be all dressed up.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: We get to wear our cool T shirts and hang out.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: So I always feel like I am rocking and they
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: have a little ac under the desk, and man, I
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: really think Texas Tech is going to win this. I do.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I just feel like they've faced a lot of adversity,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: good and bad over the last couple of weeks. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: when I just think of the weapons they have in
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the circle, if they show up, they're tough. So they
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: got a little villain in them. Texas Tech does, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like that's a good and a bad thing.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: So it's going to be very interesting how they continue
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: the momentum. But on the flip side for Texas, they
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: lost game one of the Super Regional. That's year seven
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: in a row for Mike White where they've had to
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: come back and win two and Super they lost Game
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: one of the Women's College World Series, fighting their way
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: back in the loser's bracket. Like that's also a different
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: type of dog that knows how to compete with their
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: backup against the wall too, So I think it's going
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: to go three games. I do feel like Texas Tech's
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: going to come out on top.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Always great to have you on. Thank you very much,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: great stuff as always, and enjoy yourself the next three
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: days and hopefully we can catch up with you again
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: real soon.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Awesome, guys, thanks for having me. Talk soon all right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Danielle Laurie joining us here a national champion at UDUB,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: national player of the Year at u DUB, and now
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: still a face for college softball, which takes center stage
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: starting tonight at five o'clock.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: It'll definitely be on TV two, be on TV two.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: It is on ESPN by the way, so you can
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: put it on your own TV two at home.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not relegated to TV three, I'll tell you that.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, and that's only because TV well, TV three
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: actually will be the NBA Playoffs, I think, Oh is
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: that right?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, yeah, falls above the NBA Playoffs. It's that NBA.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Give them two of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: these yeah yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: All right, coming up next. All right, we have come
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: to grips. We've gone through the five stages of morning.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I think of accepting that Miles Garrett is now a
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles RAM and in our division. So how do
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: we feel thirty six hours forty eight hours later, we'll
• 21:40
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• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Because you do this, And I blame you, Seattle. You've
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: made me, you know, I always your skin. Yeah, I've
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: always my entire career.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Now, granted, I lived in Phoenix for a long time,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and I lived there before they actually really became fans
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: of their teams, so you could be a national.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Guy, which I was.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: That's how I started my sports talk radio career as
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a national guy. And then I moved to Phoenix, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: because it was such a transplant town, there weren't really
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: die with the exception of sun devils, there weren't and suns,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: suns and sun devils. Yeah, all of sudden, there really
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: weren't diehards because it was such a melting pot that
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: was talked about that that you could do a local
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: you could do a national sports show on a local
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: station and no one would blink. Really, you just talked
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: about the big stories and sports, and you know, it worked.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And then here that's not the case, and so you've
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: turned me into a fan.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: How did you do it, Seattle Truckery?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: So now I'm sitting here saying we won a Super
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Bowl last year. I'm saying things like that on the radio.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: It does. I kind of love it.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But so I'm not sure that this kind of story
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: would have affected me until you infected me here in Seattle.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I would have just treated this as what an awesome
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: sports story that the best defensive player in the world
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: has been traded in the National Football League. And even
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: if he would have got traded into my city or
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: against one of my rivals, still it's just a great.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Story no matter how you slice it.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's not so great though, when he gets traded to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a rival of a team that you root for. And
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I kind of compare it, and it's a really loose
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: comparison because I'm not saying that anyone's going through grief
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: with all of this, But they talk about the five
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: stages of grief, and I've kind of experienced the three
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: of the five stages. Now, it's only day three since
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: this happened. The day that it happened, our first show
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to react to it. This is our second show to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: react to it. That Miles Garrett is a ram right now,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and so the stages are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I haven't done them in order, I'll say that, but
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: denial was certainly two days ago, like, no way did
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: this happen? I mean, I, along with so many other people,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: thought it was a joke. Yeah, it was sort of
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the Luka doncic, like this did not happen.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Somebody hacked Schefter's you know, Twitter, and.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: This no way, and so a lot of people went
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: through the denial phase. So I kind of spent that
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: day like really kind of expecting it maybe a Max
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Crosby thing to happen. Yeah, where Miles Garrett maybe doesn't
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: pass a physical, maybe his biceps are too long or
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: something and he doesn't pass a physical.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I'm so waiting for that. So I was kind of
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: in denial.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And then yesterday on the show, our first chance to
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: react to it. I think that was a pretty good.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It wasn't anger. I wasn't angry yesterday. That's the typical
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: second stage. I kind of slipped to the third stage yesterday,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and that was bargaining.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, you can have him. You
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: can have him.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I get that he makes you better, but I'll still
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: take my roster and I'll take our progression, and I'll
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: take our track.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And the you know, I think we're gonna win for the.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Next ten years. You can go in win for the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: next two years. Maybe we're gonna win for the next
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: ten years. Deal with that, Rams. And so I was
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: kind of bargaining it at that stage. And so I've
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: not gotten into anger. I've certainly got not gotten into depression,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: which is the fourth stage. But I have arrived at
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a third different stage today, and that's sort of acceptance
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: with all of this. And I get it. The Rams
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: are very aggressive, and we've got to give them credit
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: for that that they're a franchise that has proven hey
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: are rebuilds. They're not so depressing. Now, maybe they just
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: got lucky with one of their drafts, a couple of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: their drafts where they hit on Day two and Day
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: three picks like very well. I mean that's not Less
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: needs reputation throughout his career. But during that period of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: rebuilding that they went through, if they went through one,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: it didn't feel like that because they hit on almost
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: all of their draft picks, not just a couple, almost
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: all of them for about a two year stat and
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: it kept them from ever having to feel like they
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: were rebuilding at any stage, and so they just kept
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the train going. And now they're even more confident about that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Now they aggressively are like, rebuilds, don't intimidate us. If
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: we have to do that in two to three years, fine,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: we're gonna win two three super Bowls in the mean time.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So I give a tip of the cap to them.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: To me, that's acceptance. Hey, you guys are really good.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You guys are actually great. I mean, if there are
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: two three teams in the National Football League that we
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: would describe as great, we got to describe the Rams
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: as one of them. When you're Super Bowl champs, you
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: get to be described as one of them. And maybe
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: there's another team out there that we could describe as
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: great right now, but that's a very short list, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the Rams are on it. And let's face it, they
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: didn't just handle somebody who is a product of the system.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I mean Miles Garrett with the Cleveland Browns. It's pretty
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: much their only good player. Yeah, only great player for sure.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: And Hugh talked about it yesterday, the number of double
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: teams that he faces and yet he still ends up
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: with twenty three sacks. That's a record on the season.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Hugh said that Jared Verse, when he did the film
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: study side by side comparison, looked like he was on
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the JV squad compared to Miles Garrett. So they got
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to be there's no getting around it. We just have
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to accept that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I do accept that. Yes, and he's going to make
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: them better.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I will accept that, And they are going to be
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the favorites, and again acceptance. At this stage, they probably
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: should be the favorites. And there wasn't a lot separating
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the Rams and Seahawks last year, and now they've added
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie and Miles Garrett to their defense.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've done more to improve. But can I be
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: angry about it? Can I accept it but be angry?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: You can be angry. I just haven't. I mean, that's
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: one of the five stages.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, so that, but I haven't moved past
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: that one yet. Okay, so I'm adding others.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You're actually on the normal track. You're denial and then
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: you went to anger and you're still stuck on anger.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've accept I can accept the things that have happened,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: but I'm still bothered by it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't gotten to anger. Or certainly depression over it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: But I did go denial on when the trade was announced,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: bargaining on the show yesterday, and I'm accepting it. They're
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: going to be the favorite's going into this year. I'll
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: go as far as saying they should be the favorites
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: going into this year. But I'm also going to make
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: this statement. Fine, so you were the favorites going into
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: We were picked to finish third in the division last
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: year because everybody was sleeping on what a monster John
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Schneider and Mike McDonald were creating here in Seattle. Hell,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: we got to the Super Bowl last year, kicked the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: crap out of a team in the Super Bowl last year,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: and I still heard national people who slept on the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Seahawks all season long because they don't truly follow football,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: basically underestimating what kind of a great team that has
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: been built here in Seattle. So, all right, I'm going
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to accept that Miles Garrett's a ram. I'm going to
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: accept that you guys are really good at this. I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: going to accept that you're probably going to be even
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: better this season. I don't think there's going to be
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: any way to get around you being better this season,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: barring some injuries to some key players.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Which I don't want to wish for.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So I accept all of that, and I get why,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: and I don't think it's short sighted. If anyone out
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: there says the Rams are the favorite to win the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I accept that, yes, but I will also
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: say in the face of that, fine, go ahead, be
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the favorites. She'll make it all that sweeter when we
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: do knock you off again, and then you have to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: scramble all off season again to try to find Well, how's.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Bo Jackson's hit? Do you think he could come back?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Do you think we could reincarnate hell? John Alway is
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a young man again.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, No, I mean do what you can do next
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to try to top because I'm telling you, part of
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the reason they made this trade is out of complete
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: respect for oh my gosh, what they've got cooking up
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: there in the Pacific Northwest is special and they're probably
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: going to get better better, and us just counting on
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: adding a cornerback is probably not enough to stop what
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: they've got going up there in Seattle. We got to
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: make a bold move, and that's why they have Miles Garrett.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to take it as flattery. I'm going
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to accept that you got better. I'm going to accept
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that you're the favorites going into this season, and I
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: still want it all. I want all that smoke. Bring
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: it on, chumps.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I agree with everything he said.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: It's for some reason, it just still makes my blood
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: boil a little bit, like I have to accept all
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: these things that you did.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Sure, bring it on your turns, but it still bothers me.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: And then if they bring back Aaron Donald, don't even
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: get me started.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't even get me started. Yeah, and he can
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: still be great.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I would you still great.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I know he's removed a couple of ears, but I'll
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: still wreck them crap.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I mean I wanted him on the Seahawks last year.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Remember I did it a little bit on at the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: end of the year. Let's go get Aaron Donald.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Why not? What's he doing all right? Reckless?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: At breakfast next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM to.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: See who he wants to break down. It's about time, Yeah,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: it's about time for it. Has You've been dodging us
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: for years, So we'll have him on at eight o'clock.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: All right, it's time to get reckless at breakfast though,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: which is what we usually do Wednesdays at this time.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to double a little back on something
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: that I brought up with Danielle Laurie. I kind of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: feel like I need to explain myself. I'll try to
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: do this in five minutes. She wouldn't go there with me,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: but Ashley and I both discussed off there.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I think she kind of wanted to.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can't blame her.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Well, women have had a really difficult time. I mean,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: men's sports obviously they've got the foothold here in America,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and so to try to get attention and to try
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to be recognized for your skill and hard work, it's
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: just very, very difficult to do. For so long, the large, large,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: large majority of sports, not just athletes, but fans where men,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: certainly the sports talk were has been dominated by men
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and so forth. I think obviously a lot of progress has.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Been made in that area.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can watch women's games and you see
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: all sorts of men's and the men in the stands
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: now at women's college basketball games WNBA games. It certainly
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: has changed. It's certainly a lot of growth has occurred.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: You watch these women's College World Series games. I mean
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the stands are packed, and it's not just with all ladies, right,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: you know. I mean it's a good product that people
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: may be missing out on. And so my point to
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Danielle and I think she wanted to dance with me
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: but she didn't is for so long it has been,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, a lot of money, energy, effort, frustration
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: has been poured into trying to get men to recognize
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that they should watch women's college basketball. And it seems
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: like the argument has always been Ashley about basketball. I mean,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you were Division one athlete, you played water polo. My
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: guess is at USC they put way more into women's
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: college basketball promotion than women's polo.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, you would be correct, Okay, water polo.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And so to me, that feels like it's been the argument.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: And here's the reckless at breakfast part. I'm never gonna
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: buy it. It looks just like a completely inferior product
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to the men's game. I mean, I'm used to watching
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: basketball played a certain way, and it's played fast, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: it's played above the rim, and it's played it's just
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: played more athletically, and I just I mean, I can
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: watch women's basketball, but I'm never going to acknowledge that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it's just as good as the men's game. It's in
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: my opinion, it's not even close. And yet I can
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: tune into college softball, and I'm telling you, I can
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: watch a college softball game before I will watch a
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: college baseball Gameyep, I'll turn into women's volleyball and I'll
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: watch women's volleyball before I will watch a men's volleyball game.
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  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Without their built I think it's just a really it's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: just more interesting.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: There's more volleying that goes on.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: There's there's power on display, there's finesse on display, but
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: there's just more value.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's just a more interesting product. I think
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: tennis on the.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Women's side is just as interesting as the men's game.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: So I think there are some out there, But actually,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, there's no promotion given towards those sports.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: It all goes toward women's basketball and trying to convince
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: men that this product is on the same level when
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: it's not. There are other sports that I don't get
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: think get near the attention that are just more enjoyable
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: to watch, and I, frankly am kind of tired of
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: being labeled as well, you're just a chauvinist if you
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: don't like, no, it's not as good a product. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there joined the hell out of the way
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Women's College World Series right now, and nobody's coming over
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: to pat me on.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: The back line.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for ch yeah, thank you for
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: being open minded. It has nothing to do with open
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: mindedness or gender or trying to keep anybody down. It's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: just better. It just looks better. And you want to
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: know why it looks better, frankly, because they remove the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: athletic difference between men and women. No matter what you do,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: men are allays going to be taller, bigger, stronger, faster,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: jump higher. But in softball we shorten the bases, so
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the every play is bang bang at first base, the
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: double plays they have to turn up the middle.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: They are quick as lightning because you have to be,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: because that's how short the bases are. You're taking away
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the athletic difference. They brought the fences in and they're
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: now hitting home runs all the time. In women's women's.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Volleyball, the nets are shorter so you get just as
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: many spikes. Well, we play women's basketball on a full
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: length court just like the men, on ten foot rims
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: just like the men, and it accentuates the difference in
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the athleticism. If they really wanted to make the product
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: look more sensational, they lower the rims and shorten the courts,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: frankly in basketball, and I think you're going to get
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: a better product, But they won't do that. They're not
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: going to do that, and it will forever, in my opinion,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: pale in comparison to the men's game, where softball to
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: me does not pale in comparison to baseball, and volleyball
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: does not pale in comparison to volleyball. And I'm sure
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: there are about seven other sports that I could say
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: that about, including yours.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would say I do think on the
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: water polo side, men is men's water polo is more
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: entertaining to watch than women's water polo, just because of the
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: same pool, same thing, and it's just.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Faster a little bit more impressive.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: But I do think what you're saying about basketball, it's
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: just it always seems to me to be a bit slower,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: and that's where my interest starts to fade, whereas if
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I'm watching softball, Yeah, it is just it is fast.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: We had this conversation the.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Other day, you and I just saying, yeah, I'd rather
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: watch softball than college baseball, women's college softball than men's
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: college baseball. And I don't know if part of that
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: is because we have professional baseball, and if I'm going
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: to watch baseball, I'm going to watch it on the
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: professional side. But I think even women's college softball over
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: professional softball, I'd rather watch. It's just so entertaining, it
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: is so fast, it's dramatic, it's all of these things
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: you're watching, you know, just nail biter games all the time.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Is it boring when one team's blown another one out? Yes,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: but that's all sports. Yeah, exactly, that's boring. But I
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: do things. College softball is an amazing product. It should
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: get more attention.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And yet Sue Bird has a street named after
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: her and Danielle Laurie doesn't even have an avenue.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's give her an avenue.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could at least give her an avenue, like
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a side street something, you know. Brianna Stewart's a millionaire now,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: and yet Cis Bates probably has a hard time paying rent.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much they make in the AUSL,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: but it's definitely not what they're making in the WNBA, right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: And so here's me, here's a man that's been sports
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: talk radio since he was nineteen years old telling you, Yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: there's been a discrepancy. And I absolutely, I'm sure it
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: has been grossly unfair to women for the last for
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: my entire life, like the lack of attention that women's
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: sports that have gotten. But I would also say, why
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: don't you spend less time trying to convince us that
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: that products is on the same level as that product
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: when it's not right, and maybe spend more time promoting
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: sports that actually.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Are on the level are on the same level.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it's always got to be about
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: you have to watch basketball, or you're a women's basketball
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: or you're a chauvinist.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: It's just not as good a product, right. Well, And
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: that's where they go wrong to say it's the same.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: It's not the same. It's different, And it's okay that
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: it's different. If you want to watch women's basketball, watch
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: women's basketball, but don't watch it because you're trying to
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: compare it to men's basketball.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:09
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