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Episode Two Hundred Eighty Four: Yabba Dabba Doo · The Death Of Journalism

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two hundred and eighty four The Death
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  Speaker 1: of Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm your host.
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  Speaker 1: In today's show, the war with Iran starts to get
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  Speaker 1: MESSI and Trump seems to want an exit. The Epstein
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  Speaker 1: files cause an absurd allegation against Trump to get widespread coverage.
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  Speaker 1: Plus the Epstein didn't kill himself. Conspiracy nuts think they
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  Speaker 1: finally have something. I have several stories on how real
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  Speaker 1: life in California is truly nuts and an amazing Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Sandusky update. Plus is there a legislative fix for college athletics?
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  Speaker 1: We begin this episode of the podcast with the war
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  Speaker 1: in Iran, and the reality of war, even in modern times,
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  Speaker 1: seems to be hitting pretty quickly. We have all sorts
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  Speaker 1: of stories of civilian casualties, including a very tragic one
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  Speaker 1: where apparently an Iranian school with lots of schoolgirls was
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  Speaker 1: hit by accident, apparently by an American missile, although that's
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  Speaker 1: not yet been confirmed. With dozens and dozens of absolutely
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  Speaker 1: horrendously tragic deaths now, of course, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: blame to go around here. I'm not sure how or
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  Speaker 1: why you have school in session next to a military target.
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  Speaker 1: When a war has broken out. I mean not to
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  Speaker 1: get jovial about it or to not take this seriously.
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  Speaker 1: But here in California, we cancel school if there might
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  Speaker 1: be smoke. I'm not sure why they were having school
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  Speaker 1: in that particular location, And again the details still have
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  Speaker 1: not been sorted out, but it looks as if a
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  Speaker 1: horrible tragedy has occurred, because that's the reality of war,
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  Speaker 1: even in modern times with remarkable technology. Despite that, it
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  Speaker 1: appears as if the war is going, at least according
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  Speaker 1: to Trump administration officials, exactly as hoped. Iran is getting obliterated.
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  Speaker 1: They are using their leadership literally almost on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, the Babylon b put out a story that
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  Speaker 1: I think, actually, while it was intended to be humorous,
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  Speaker 1: tells a lot about the nature of this situation as
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  Speaker 1: well as the problem. Their headline their satirical conservative website.
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  Speaker 1: Their headline Iran warns us it has huge stockpile of
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  Speaker 1: supreme leaders and unfortunately that actually does indicate, whether intentional
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  Speaker 1: or not, part of the problem. In the last episode
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  Speaker 1: of the podcast, I talked about how Iran cannot be
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  Speaker 1: allowed to have a nuclear weapon because of their religious
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  Speaker 1: philosophy of radical Islam and their belief in martyrdom, and
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  Speaker 1: therefore they don't believe that dying is a bad thing.
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  Speaker 1: Therefore mutual assuredish destruction, which is at the essence of
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  Speaker 1: maintaining stability in a nuclear world, has no meaning. They
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  Speaker 1: are actually incentivized to die because of their beliefs about martyrdom. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's similar when it comes to taking out their leadership. If,
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  Speaker 1: as the babylon Beast suggests, they have a huge stock
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  Speaker 1: byle of supreme leaders who are more than willing to
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  Speaker 1: die for the cause, then it doesn't make that much difference. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they have an infinite supply at
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  Speaker 1: least of the true believers, and at some point even
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  Speaker 1: the true believers might start to go a wait, a bitte,
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  Speaker 1: this doesn't sound like that great of a deal. So
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  Speaker 1: I do think there's some value, especially to the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the world, in getting rid of these bad actors.
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  Speaker 1: And it was funny to me and seeing the comments
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  Speaker 1: to last week's podcast, because a lot of people thought
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  Speaker 1: I was too pro Trump on this whole thing. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel like I expressed a clear preference for this
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  Speaker 1: war or for support for this war. I have a
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  Speaker 1: support in general for the concept of the United States
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  Speaker 1: being the world's policeman, and when it's in our best
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  Speaker 1: interest to do do something militarily, I'm generally in favor
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  Speaker 1: of it. I have some trust in Mark Rubio. I
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  Speaker 1: have some trust that John Fetterman, if this was a
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  Speaker 1: bad idea of being a Democrat, would have come out
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  Speaker 1: and said so. So I'm willing to see this out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm willing to say, Okay, I'll give you some benefit
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  Speaker 1: of the doubt. But there's an end to that, and
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  Speaker 1: war gets messy, and I think part of Iran's strategy
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  Speaker 1: is that Trump will get tired. Trump is already starting
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  Speaker 1: to talk about an endgame. He already has said that
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  Speaker 1: he thinks this thing will be over quickly. He even
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  Speaker 1: said today as of this taping, that there aren't too
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  Speaker 1: many targets left to bomb in Iran. And so Trump
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  Speaker 1: wants out, which is understandable because this is causing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of problems. Economically. The stock market took a crap,
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  Speaker 1: although it has been stabilized. Oil markets have been going
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  Speaker 1: crazy almost actually did hit a record at one point.
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  Speaker 1: Is stabilized a little bit. The strategic oil reserves are
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  Speaker 1: being tapped, which, by the way, is the reason you
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  Speaker 1: have the strategic oil reserves. It's not there as the
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  Speaker 1: Biden administration used it to simply try to reduce the
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  Speaker 1: price of gasoline when it's politically expedient for you to
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  Speaker 1: do so. So, if this thing still ends up as
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  Speaker 1: a very short term war and economically things get back
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  Speaker 1: to the way they were or should be, and Iran's
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  Speaker 1: nuclear capabilities are at least temporarily eliminated and their leadership
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  Speaker 1: structure is greatly, if not completely destroyed, I think that
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  Speaker 1: that's all a positive. But there's got to be an
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  Speaker 1: endgame out of this, and that's always very precarious. How
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  Speaker 1: do you determine when to stop this? And are there
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  Speaker 1: other ramifications that you have not fully considered, And you know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know that yet. I'm still hoping for the best.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still tentatively saying, Okay, this might have been the
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  Speaker 1: right thing to do, but this cannot go on for
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  Speaker 1: a very long time, and there has to be some
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  Speaker 1: clear endgame, and there has to be some clear goal
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  Speaker 1: that has achieved. Now from a media perspective, I think
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  Speaker 1: one of the more interesting elements of this war because
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  Speaker 1: it's happening during a very ever changing time period, especially
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to AI, is that this might be
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  Speaker 1: the first full scale war where we have such a
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  Speaker 1: proliferation of fake videos because of AI. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 1: AI is evolving almost on a daily basis, and one
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  Speaker 1: of the many, many, many challenges of an AI world
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  Speaker 1: is going to be determining what's real and what's fake,
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  Speaker 1: what's fact, what's fiction. And there have been many videos
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  Speaker 1: that have been put out there that are not real
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  Speaker 1: but look awfully real and have gone viral on social media,
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  Speaker 1: but they were AI created. Now so far, we haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen one that really got extraordinarily widespread acceptance that I
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  Speaker 1: think had significant political impact. But it's clearly an issue.
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  Speaker 1: It's clearly out there, and this is a brave new world.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they always say that the first casualty of
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  Speaker 1: war is truth, and in an AI world, that's going
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  Speaker 1: to be particularly the case because within literally minutes, you
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  Speaker 1: could create a video that is more than plausible, that
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  Speaker 1: can depict almost anything you want, and because of the
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  Speaker 1: nature of the fog of war, people will be far
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  Speaker 1: more likely to believe that a video you see online.
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  Speaker 1: In a world where everyone has a cell phone or
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  Speaker 1: whatever could actually be real. So I think that's one
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  Speaker 1: of the more interesting elements of this Iranian war or
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  Speaker 1: war with Iran from a media perspective. Also within the
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  Speaker 1: AI topic, I mentioned in the last episode of the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that something really I think important and fascinating, although
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  Speaker 1: still is beyond my full grasp of understanding, is this
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  Speaker 1: battle between Anthropic, the AI company, and the Pentagon and
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  Speaker 1: Anthropic refusing to hand over their AI technology without restrictions
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  Speaker 1: to the United States military, and the United States military
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  Speaker 1: basically fighting back against Anthropic. The US government essentially now
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  Speaker 1: boycotting Anthropic products. Apparently Open Ai has stepped up to
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  Speaker 1: fill that void, but I can't be sure that the
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  Speaker 1: Anthropic CEO actually apologized for his communication on the issue,
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  Speaker 1: although not for the actions of the company itself, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm still not one hundred percent sure what's going on there.
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  Speaker 1: My instincts are that Anthropic is probably right. I like
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  Speaker 1: their CEO seems like a smart guy who's well intentioned,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you know, comparing him to the other AI
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  Speaker 1: CEOs and and you know tech bros, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the guys that are running the world that are going
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  Speaker 1: to change the world. Apparently this this group of like
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  Speaker 1: seven to twelve people, he's probably the best of a
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  Speaker 1: bad bunch, and so I kind of trust him to
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  Speaker 1: begin with, and so I think he's probably at the
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  Speaker 1: very least well intentioned. But that's a battle related to
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  Speaker 1: AI that is clearly also relevant when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: the war with Iran. But I'm i am still hopeful.
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  Speaker 1: I am. I know that I'm not known as an optimist,
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  Speaker 1: and usually, you know, the time I'm most likely to
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  Speaker 1: be wrong is when I'm optimistic. But I'm still somewhat
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  Speaker 1: optimistic that in a couple of weeks, I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea the exact timeframe this thing will be over with,
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  Speaker 1: will be able to declare victory. Hopefully there'll be some
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  Speaker 1: lasting gains to this, and that the the negatives the
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  Speaker 1: losses will be minimal. But of course, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: have an incredibly low threshold for casualties, at least us
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  Speaker 1: casualties in the modern era. I mean, thankfully, we will
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  Speaker 1: live in a world where the nature of warfare has
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  Speaker 1: changed so much where we don't have to take human
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  Speaker 1: casualties in a large number and still be able to
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  Speaker 1: achieve some objectives. But for better or for worse, it
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  Speaker 1: is well known. I think the whole world knows that America,
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  Speaker 1: especially for an elective war, has an extremely low threshold
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  Speaker 1: for human casualties, and so far they have been low
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  Speaker 1: by any standard for this particular war. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that they're not significant, because every life obviously matters. But
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  Speaker 1: we're living in a world now. I mean, can you
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  Speaker 1: imagine we could never possibly do D Day or any
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  Speaker 1: sort of major military offense of like we have done
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  Speaker 1: in the past, for instance, in World War Two or
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  Speaker 1: World War One, where there were massive amounts of casualties
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  Speaker 1: and everybody knew there were gonna be massive amounts of casualties.
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  Speaker 1: Now you may argue that that's a good thing, but
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  Speaker 1: the reality is that it does restrict what the United
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  Speaker 1: States can do and how long the United States can
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  Speaker 1: maintain a particular military offensive, because there's gonna be casualties,
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  Speaker 1: even in this modern technological age, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: that does put a restriction on how much the United
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  Speaker 1: States can do, especially when it's an elective war where
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  Speaker 1: the vast majority of the American people don't see American
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  Speaker 1: safety as being at stake in this situation, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Ron didn't do anything to us specifically, as a country
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  Speaker 1: to provoke this. This isn't like a nine to eleven
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  Speaker 1: situation where everybody basically was supported going into Afghanistan and
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  Speaker 1: trying to get the perpetrators of nine to eleven. So
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  Speaker 1: all of that I think does probably point towards a
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  Speaker 1: very short I'm hoping and I expect, a very short
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  Speaker 1: military operation that should be ending pretty soon, where Trump
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  Speaker 1: can declare victory, move on, and hopefully we can get
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  Speaker 1: back to normalcy, especially when it comes to the issue
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  Speaker 1: of oil and the economic impact and maybe the political
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  Speaker 1: impact that this Iranian war has had. Now with hesitation,
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  Speaker 1: I transitioned to my least favorite subject, which is the
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  Speaker 1: ongoing insanity with Jeffrey Epstein. But I feel particularly compelled
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  Speaker 1: to address several things that have happened over the last
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  Speaker 1: week because the lunacy not only doesn't stop, it just
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  Speaker 1: keeps getting worse and worse. But it's i think, really
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  Speaker 1: reaching a level of hilarity, and I'm going to try
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  Speaker 1: to look at this from the perspective of it being
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  Speaker 1: absolutely hilarious, although also depressing that so many people, including
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  Speaker 1: in the mainstream media, have been seemingly duped by a
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  Speaker 1: complete and total dark fairy tale for which there is
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  Speaker 1: no evidence or logic. I mean's I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 1: biggest part of this whole thing. I mean what we
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  Speaker 1: have here, and I've gone through this before. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna go in great detail again, but just as a
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  Speaker 1: quick summary, we have a confluence of perfect storm events
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  Speaker 1: where you have both the left wing and the right
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  Speaker 1: wing media incentivized to buy into this dark fairy tale
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  Speaker 1: of a massive, incredibly dark conspiracy for which there's no
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  Speaker 1: evidence or logic that occurred surrounding Jeffrey Epstein. For the
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  Speaker 1: millionth time, I think the evidence is overwhelming. Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was effectively working on his own. He hired a lot
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  Speaker 1: of prostitutes, some of them were underage. He probably was
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  Speaker 1: committing financial crimes as well. Gallainne Maxwell may or may
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  Speaker 1: not have enabled his sex crimes. I heard try was
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  Speaker 1: a joke, so I don't know whether she's guilty or not,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't believe in any massive conspiracy. There might
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  Speaker 1: have been some prostitute sharing among his buddies, but that
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  Speaker 1: was essentially it. And because of this bizarre series of circumstances,
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  Speaker 1: his supposedly mysterious death, the taking down of former Prince Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: which I believe was very Jerry Sandusky, like the sham
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  Speaker 1: trial of Glenne Maxwell. The fact that the MAGA media
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  Speaker 1: was deeply invested in this until Trump won a second
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  Speaker 1: term and all of a sudden, Cash matell and Dan
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  Speaker 1: Bongino and Pam Bondi, all of his hired people were
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  Speaker 1: telling or trying to tell the mega base that there
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  Speaker 1: really wasn't much to this. And then the left wing
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  Speaker 1: media said, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, Wait a minute, this
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  Speaker 1: might be finally a way to get Trump. And now
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  Speaker 1: we have this huge number of people in this audience
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  Speaker 1: desperate for content, both on the left and the right,
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  Speaker 1: on the Epstein story. The mag of people want their
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  Speaker 1: public execution of elites that they believed they were promised
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  Speaker 1: the left wingers, the progressive state. Finally, finally, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get Trump after all this time, because we know he's
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  Speaker 1: a pedophile and he was friends with Epstein, and he's
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  Speaker 1: in that these Epstein files millions of times. It's gotta
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  Speaker 1: be some fire with all this smoke, and so all
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  Speaker 1: of this has created a moral panic, a witch hunt,
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  Speaker 1: and all sorts of absolutely batshit crazy stories are getting
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  Speaker 1: legitimate legitimate credibility, even in mainstream news media outlets. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we used to live in a world where the legacy
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  Speaker 1: media one of the very few good things they did
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  Speaker 1: was they either ignored or they debunked crazy conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 1: You could rely on the main street news media to
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  Speaker 1: do that, usually whether it came from the left or
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  Speaker 1: the right. This is the first story I can remember
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  Speaker 1: where virtually every single mainstream media outlet has embraced crazy
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories for which there's no evidence and no logic,
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  Speaker 1: because it's in their self interest, because there's a built
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  Speaker 1: in audience, and if you're on the right, there's a
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  Speaker 1: political agenda, if you're on the left, there's a political agenda.
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  Speaker 1: And there's lots of traffic and attention to go around
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  Speaker 1: for everybody. And there are three basic stories that have
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  Speaker 1: been in the news over the last week that I
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  Speaker 1: want to specifically address. The first is this story that
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump raped a teenage girl back in apparently nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty three in South Carolina along with Jeffrey Epstein. And
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  Speaker 1: of course this would be absolutely horrendous if it was true,
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  Speaker 1: but I oughtest and I've been dealing with this kind
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  Speaker 1: of these kinds of issues, these kinds of stories for
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  Speaker 1: like well over a decade now, thanks largely to my
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  Speaker 1: involvement in the Jerry Sandusky fiasco. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I have ever heard a story that is more ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: that has still been given legitimate mainstream media credibility than
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  Speaker 1: this one. So there's I mean, there's so many, not
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  Speaker 1: just problems. I love how the mainstream media outlets that
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  Speaker 1: give this credibility will say that the allegation is uncorroborated, uncorroborated.
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  Speaker 1: That word is carrying herculean amount of weight because there's
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  Speaker 1: a difference between uncorroborated and obviously fabricated, which is what
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  Speaker 1: this is. There's so many problems. First of all, there
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  Speaker 1: is zero evidence that Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump even
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  Speaker 1: knew each other in nineteen eighty three. It's at least
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  Speaker 1: four years before they were even acquainted. Now, those who
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  Speaker 1: want to believe this story will say, well, how do
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  Speaker 1: we know that? Well, we know that because we now
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  Speaker 1: have all of Jeffrey Epstein's communications. I mean, the lack
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  Speaker 1: of critical thinking here is amazing to me. You have
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate everything in this case through the prism of
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  Speaker 1: unique circumstances. And one of the unique circumstances is we
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  Speaker 1: have all his communications. It's all been released publicly in
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  Speaker 1: this garbage dump they're calling the Epstein files, so we
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  Speaker 1: pretty if there was evidence of any of this, it
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  Speaker 1: would be massive. Epstein would have referenced it, especially when
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  Speaker 1: he was in a federal prison where the President of
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  Speaker 1: the United States was Donald Trump. He allegedly had blackmail
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  Speaker 1: information on him, and instead of you that blackmail information,
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  Speaker 1: he kills himself. Now, of course I'm gonna get to
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  Speaker 1: the did he kill himself stories in just a minute,
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  Speaker 1: But he killed himself, and that's important for the understanding
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  Speaker 1: why this whole thing is so ridiculous. Jeffrey Epstein cannot
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  Speaker 1: have any sort of legitimate blackmail information on Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: and decide as a rational human being. And he was
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  Speaker 1: clearly rational. He clearly thought this out. He was clearly
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  Speaker 1: very mochiavellian. You would not kill yourself at a federal
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  Speaker 1: president without even trying to play that card. So inherently
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  Speaker 1: the story right off the bat, it doesn't even get
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  Speaker 1: out of the batter's box, is absurd. They don't know
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  Speaker 1: each other at this time, and Epstein never tries to
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  Speaker 1: use this blackmail information. But that's just a tip of
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  Speaker 1: the iceberg. The details of the story are completely inconsistent
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  Speaker 1: with everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein. It's in an
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  Speaker 1: area in South Carolina where there is no connection that
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  Speaker 1: Epstein had. His brother said he'd never went there. There's
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  Speaker 1: no connection to Trump in the location. The accuser's timeline
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  Speaker 1: is completely screwed up. She references a Rick James concert
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  Speaker 1: that didn't happen, that it happened a few years earlier
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  Speaker 1: than this. But then there's how this story all came
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  Speaker 1: to light. And I've been saying time and time again,
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  Speaker 1: you have to understand the context of when the authorities
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  Speaker 1: learn of these stories. Twenty nineteen. August twenty nineteen is
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  Speaker 1: when Epstein kills himself in a federal prison. That's when
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  Speaker 1: this story finally explodes. There are a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: who have very short memories. They want to pretend that
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was a big deal even before he died. He
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  Speaker 1: was not. He was not. Yes, it was a story,
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  Speaker 1: it was not that big of a deal. And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: even the Glen back Swell trial was not a big deal,
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  Speaker 1: partially because it went during the COVID panic in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, but that's the only trial it's ever happened
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  Speaker 1: to this entire saga, and the media didn't care really
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  Speaker 1: and the public didn't really care. And so in twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: when he dies and there's this mystery surrounding him, and
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, there becomes this need for retribution and for
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: someone to pay for his crimes, which I believe Glanne
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Maxwell and former Prince Andrew got cut up caught up
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in There also becomes money on the table. So you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: have this confluence of events, the publicity over his death,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: money on the table from these financial institutions that are
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: now under pressure that we're dealing with him to pay
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: off his accusers. Because he's dead in prison, there's not
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: going to be any justice in the court system. There
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: becomes more media coverage. These financial institutions are incredibly vulnerable
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to bad publicity. They've got tons of money. They just
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: want to make it go away. And you've got President
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Trump as a very controversial president who is getting ready
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to run for reelection. That is a combustible series of circumstances.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: When it comes to crackpots coming forward who want attention
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: or money or are they simply crazy, or they want
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to go after Donald Trump, and they think that this
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: is an opportunity because everyone's seeing pictures, old pictures of
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Epstein and Trump together, partying together, hanging out together. So
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: of course the Epstein files are going to have all
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: sorts of crazy stories involving Donald Trump because there's a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: lot of fucking crack pots out there, and there were
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: all sorts of incentives in twenty nineteen for people to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: come forward with crazy stories, especially related to Trump, for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the reasons I just mentioned. So it's twenty nine when
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: this story first comes to the attention of authorities. But
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: guess what. The woman involved, who has all sorts of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: personal credibility problems, but I'm not even gonna deal with
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: those because it doesn't matter. We don't need. She could
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be mother Teresa, it wouldn't matter. The story is that ridiculous,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it's that absurd. It clearly did not happen. And guess
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: who said it didn't happen, or at least certainly gave
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: every impression that it didn't happen involving Donald Trump. The
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: woman who's the accuser, because in her first story she
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: does not mention Donald Trump's name. Now there are all
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: sorts of game set match moments for this ridiculous fairy tale.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: They didn't know each other at the time during which
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: it happened. The timeline is all screwed up. But here's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the other thing. Donald Trump ran for president in twenty sixteen.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: That's last call rational world. That is last call for
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: any legitimate, old allegation against Donald Trump. Everybody in the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: world knows he's running for president. If you got a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: story about him, that's when you come forward. This accuser
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: didn't do that. Then we have another opportunity, the Me
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Too movement in late twenty seventeen. Did this accuser come
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: forward against a sitting president when the whole world is
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: sharing their stories of being sexually abused and what have you? Nope, nothing, nada.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So she missed his last call on his presidential run.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: She missed his last call on the me toob movement.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: She then only comes forward in twenty nineteen, but in
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: their first interview does not mention Donald Trump's name. Sitting
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: president allegedly raped as a teenager by the sitting president
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of the United States who's running for reelection, and in
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: her great big moment where she gets an interview with
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: FBI investigators, she says nothing about Donald Trump. I mean,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's game, set match, like five or six
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: times over. It's absurd. And then eventually Trump's name gets used,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: apparently because she has a friend who's get this, an
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: anti Trump person who somehow references Trump's name, and that's
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: how Trump's name even gets involved in this crazy story.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And one of the more hilarious and frustrating elements of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the way that people have reacted, especially on the left
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: of this story, because people so desperately want to believe
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: this crap it's unbelievable, is they will say things like, well,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: this accuser was interviewed three or four times. I've heard
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: different numbers. I can't discern what's the actual number, but
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: they were interviewed at least three or four times by
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: authorities that proves that she was credible. You wouldn't interview
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: this woman three or four times if you really thought
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: she was batshit crazy. And I'm like, really, so you're
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: telling me if they had interviewed her once and disregarded
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: her story and then you found it in the Epstein files,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't be saying. Ah, the Trump administration DOJ decided
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: not to look into this. They did not do their
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: due diligence because they were protecting their King, Donald Trump.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what they would have said. So and by
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the way, these investigators know that they're in a vulnerable
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: spot as soon as Trump's name is used because they're
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: working in the Trump administration, So it makes total sense
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that they would do actually more due diligence just to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: make sure that there's absolutely nothing to the story so
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that they can't be later accused of whitewashing it. But
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: they're damned that they do, and they damned that they
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: don't because people will believe whatever the fuck they want
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to believe on this story, even when it makes absolutely
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: no sense. And when I say people, I'm not just
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: talking about the utter crack pots online. There are way
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: more of those that I ever anticipated. It's incredibly depressing,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: but I can mostly deal with the fact that there's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a huge segment of the population now because of social media,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that has a voice that are completely insane, that believe
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: things about the world that are just flat out not true.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And one conspiracy begets another conspiracy, which begets another conspiracy
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that's crazier and crazier, nuttier anutlier that does drive me bananas,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: but it actually is nothing in comparison with the news
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: media and our political leadership allegedly at least pretending to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: buy into the story. And one of the worst offenders,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: maybe the worst, is a Democratic congressman by the name
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of Ted Lew. Interestingly, his last name is spelled lie you,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: which I think is appropriate in this particular case. But
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Ted Lou has just been off his rocker on this situation,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: claiming that this nineteen to eighty three story and other
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: stories that are as nuts as this one in the
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Epstein files are true and our quote unquote evidence of
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a crime, all because he has this crusade to prove
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that Attorney General Pam Bondi perjured herself in her testimony
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to him when she said that there is no evidence
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: in the Epstein files that Donald Trump committed a crime.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Now this gets into what your definition of evidence is.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I'm with Pam Bondi on this. There is no evidence.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: This is not evidence. This is just bullshit. This is
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Fred Flintstone saying Yabba dabadoo, who the fuck cares? There
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: is absolutely positively nothing to this, yet Ted Lou appears
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to believe it. I was uncertain if he was lying
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: or if he really believed it. I'm going to give
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: him some credit. I think he's dumb enough where he
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: actually believes this. And he keeps going on this rampage
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: where he is saying that there is evidence, clear evidence
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: of a crime in the Epstein files by Donald Trump,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and specifically this so called nineteen eighty three story. So
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I had had enough with Ted Lu. So I took
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a Ted Lou declaration about the evidence of a crime
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: by Donald Trump, and I quote tweeted it or quote
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: posted it, and I told my story of abuse. Couldn't
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: take it anymore. I've been hiding this long enough. I decided,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you know what, it is now time for me to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: tell my truth. And my truth is that back in
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, I was sexually abused by Ted Lou.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember for sure exactly what day it
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: had happened or where it happened exactly. I'm pretty sure
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that Elvis Presley was there, though I wasn't positive. This
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: is what I wrote on X. I think Elvis Presley
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: was there, even though there's some people who think Elvis
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Presley was dead for about six years before this happened,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: But I have a pretty good recollection of Elvis Presley
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: being there. But I know I was sexually abused by
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Ted Lou. Now it's a little weird because I was
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen at the time and Ted Lou was
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: two years younger than me. But you know what, and yes,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: he's a small guy, but I had barely even gone
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: through puberty. I wasn't very big at fifteen or sixteen.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: So but you know, that doesn't really matter, because I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: know what happened, and you should believe me because I'm
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: making an accusation that's very very serious. It's a very
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: serious accusation, and it's evidence of a crime. That's what
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it is. And that's what I stated on X I said,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: this is evidence of a crime. And no one is
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: above the law, Ted lu, no one is above the law.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: You sexually abused me back in nineteen eighty three. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: don't really have any corroboration. My memory is a little hazy,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: but this is my truth. This is my story. And
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not even trying to make any
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: money about out of this. The woman in the nineteen
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: eighty three situation tried to become part of the Epstein
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: settlements and apparently got rejected, which is really saying something
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: because there were a lot of highly dubious stories that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: ended up getting paid millions of dollars because of the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Epstein settlements, a lot like the whole Penn State and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky settlements. So I'm not looking for any money.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling my truth. And I don't know how
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: many people actually I think it was well over one
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand views for that particular post, and people seem
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to understand where I was coming from and making my
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: very belated allegation against Ted lu But this is a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: member of Congress who is to kill sing the President
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the United States of having committed a crime basted upon
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: complete and total utter bullshit. It doesn't get any bullshittier
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: than this. And yet major media outlets, under the guise
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: of just reporting the news and protecting themselves by using
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: this word uncorroborated or unsubstantiated, are giving this credibility with
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: no context. Man, I've not heard one person, not one
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: other than myself, even make the point that can we
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: please put these twenty nineteen stories into the context of
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: who was president, how controversial Trump was, and the fact
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that he's running for reelection and that people desperately wanted
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to do anything to try to take him out. I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: mean that you would think that would be like journalism
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: one oh one is okay, we need to at least
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: provide some context for why it is that Donald Trump's
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: name is all over the Epstein files, because there's so
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: many people that believe in this theory of well, there
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: can't be this much smoke without fire. Yes, there can
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: be under these circumstances. If you understand what the files are,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: if you understand the timeline, if you understand who was
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: president when Epstein died, and why people had an incentive,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a massive incentive to bring his name into this, it
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. It's one of the few things in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: this case that actually does make sense. And so it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: been hilarious yet also infuriating to me to see that
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: particular story, which is so incredibly easy lead debunked given credibility.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And one last point on this, I love how one
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of the arguments of the left on this is they're
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: been hiding this story. The Trump doj has been hiding this.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: They redacted the pages, they pulled them off the website
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that they brought them back. This is a cover up.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, really, so, how do you know about this?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: How do you know about this story? The only reason
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: why you know about this story is because the Trump
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: DJ released it and stupidly did so in a way
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that brought even more attention to it. If this is
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: a cover up, it's the worst fucking cover up in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the history of man. But people actually believing this because
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: they they don't want to admit they were duped. You know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: they're deeply invested, and they will believe whatever the hell
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: they want to believe. And that leads me to the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I think the epicenter of this entire ridiculous narrative and
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: something that I have discussed many, many times before for
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: years on this podcast, and that is the issue of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Epstein's death in a federal prison in August of twenty nineteen.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And I have said time and time again that it
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: is very obvious that Epstein killed himself. And then if
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you understand that Epstein killed himself, then it closes off
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: almost all of the conspiracy doors. I mean, because so
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: many of these conspiracy theories are based in a premise
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that Epstein was so powerful and so dangerous that someone
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: unbelievably powerful was able to take him out in a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: federal prison with no fingerprints, no prosecutions, not even a
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: goddamn suspect. So I've said many times, Hell, if you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: could prove to me that he was murdered in a
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: federal prison with no one getting even accused of the murder,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: then okay, my ears are open, because that would be amazing. That's,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you know, that would take a remarkable conspiracy, that would
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: require you know, a power and an influence and not
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to mention, you know, defying of human realities. That would
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: be so mind boggling that it would be a game
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: changer as far as the way that I would look
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: at this case and how any rational person could look
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: at this case. But they've never come close to doing that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And if he killed himself, it closes off so many
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of these crackpot theories. Specifically, as I've already stated, anything
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: dealing with Trump, you can not underline the word not.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: You cannot have Epstein with blackmail information on the President
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and states killing himself in a federal prison. You can't.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: It is so nonsensical as to be impossible if you
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: know anything about Epstein. Now, as far as the evidence
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of his of his suicide. No one wants to accept this,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: even though the main reason why I'm positive that he
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: killed himself is the lack of evidence of any other scenario.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: As I've said dozens of times, give me a suspect,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Give me a suspect, because people are not understanding, and
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: this is this is remarkable to me. It's a lot
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: like how the media has just forgotten that we have
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a civil plaintiff system in this country where people can sue.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: They don't need the authorities to file charges. And if
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you're you know, you've been raped or assaulted or kidnapped,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you can sue somebody who's rich and famous, and in
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: this case you're gonna get a free lawyer and a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: media blowing the wind at you're back, and there's a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: very good chance you're gonna get money out of it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But we've just forgotten because, by the way, the nineteen
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: eighty three accuser never sued I mean, just like almost
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: no one else has sued Donald Trump in this particular
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: case because it didn't happen. And the lack of lawsuits
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: in general, to me, is one of the best incidences
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: or pieces of evidence that the absence of evidence is
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: actually evidence of absence. There would be massive lawsuits all
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: over this situation if the narrative that we've been told,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the conspiracy narrative, was actually remotely true. But it's not.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And so in that vein, getting into a federal prison
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and killing somebody and getting away with it is literally impossible.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: It's literally impossible. Getting into a federal prison is not
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: an easy thing. There's all sorts of checks and balances.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: We have the names of everybody who's in the facility.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: They're either working there or there an inmate there, which
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: case their movements are extremely restricted. If by chance they're
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: again but no one was a guest in the middle
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: of the fucking night, their name is everywhere. I mean,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: their movements are tracked. I mean people are just pretending
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: a mysterious person can wander into a federal prison and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: get into somebody's cell, kill them, leave without any evidence
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: just because some video might be missing. Gee, imagine that
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a video malfunction of thanks to incompetence in a federal facility. Boy,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that's a real hard thing to wrap your brain around.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Or having these prison guards they're looking for their next donut,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: not be aware that Jeffrey Epstein was killing himself. I mean,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: it's just it is so preposterous. Yet no one ever
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: even talks about this. It's so it inherently the burden
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: of proof that anything other than the fact that Epstein
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: killed himself, just as the Medical Examiner said that he did.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: This Medical Examinent in the news media coverage on this
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: has been so off the wall horrendous. I mean, there
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: was a story of the New York Post, which generally
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I like, and News Corp. I think takes the cake
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: as the worst media outlet on this entire story. The
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Daily Mail, New York Post, and even the Wall Street
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Journal at times have been absolutely awful on this, and
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: they purposely take stories that interrational world would lead you
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: in one hundred and eighty degree different direction than the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: direction they want to push you in. And there was
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a story about the Medical Examiner this week where the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: New York Post headline was medical examiner and Epstein files
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: explains why she was has or didn't immediately determine that
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it was suicide, something to that effect. But if you
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: read the article, it's because she wanted to make one
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: hundred percent sure, even though it was pretty clear cut
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: these are quotes I'm using that he had killed himself,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: but she wanted to make sure so she didn't determine
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it immediately, which, by the way, in a rational world,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: should give her credibility. It's not like she at all.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It's a suicide. Let's move on. She looked at it
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: carefully and made the determination that she was indeed one
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: hundred percent shore that he killed himself. And oh my god,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I can't even believe some of these things that I'm
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: telling you about have occurred. But I got to share
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: this quick side story. So let's just be clear about
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: how he killed himself. He's in a prison, right he
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: strangled himself. People say, oh, it's not like a regular hanging.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: The injuries weren't consistent with a regular hanging. And look
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: at his body, his face, it looks different. Look at
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: this picture of him post hanging himself than this picture
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: of him looking perfectly normal. Are you people fucking crazy?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: First of all, when you try to hang yourself in
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a prison, you're going to do a really poor job
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: of it. You're essentially strangling yourself. You're not really hanging yourself.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: So there are they're not. There's not a whole lot
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: of other examples to point to and say, here's a
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: picture of someone who tried to hang themselves in a prison.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: It compares to what they looked like when they were
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: perfectly fine and dandy. And part of the reason I'm
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: mentioning this is it's not just that social media nut
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: jobs believe that a photograph of Epstein post strangulation or
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: self strangulation slash hanging might look different than what he
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: looked like normally. I actually got responded to on this
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: topic on x by a guy with the name of Bob Estes. Now,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: unless you're a big golf fan, you don't know who
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Bob Estess is. But Bob Astes is a legitimate PGA
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Tour and PGA Tour champions golfer. I think he's won
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, maybe multiple times because he has
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: exempt status of some sort on the Champions Tour. But
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: he's If you're a golf fan like I am, you
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: know who Bob Astes is. If you're by age group,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and Bob Astes was engaging with me for like five
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: or six tweets or posts where he's convinced that the
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: photograph alone of Epstein post strangulation is an indication that
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: something is a mess because he looks different, and I'm like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Bob, this can't possibly be true. This
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: can't be happening. I mean, even a Bob Astes thinks
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that this actually is evidence. Give me an alternative scenario,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: give me, give me anything. Well, I've been asking for
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: some semblance of evidence on this for years, and the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the Epstein didn't kill himself people never come up with
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: anything other than well, you know, there are a lot
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: of people that wanted him dead. There was an incentive
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: for people to want him dead because they believe that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he's got this blackmail operation on powerful people. So therefore
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the powerful people wanted him dead. He died under supposedly
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: suspicious circumstances, so therefore, if so facto in their pea brains,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: this is evidence of murder. Okay, well, if I'm gonna
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: use your same distorted logic, why the fuck is Gallaine
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Maxwell still alive? Can someone please explain that to me?
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Glainne Maxwell would have been a hell of a lot
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: easier to kill in twenty nineteen than Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Epstein was protected at a federal prison where if you
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: kill him, you're gonna get caught. Even before all this
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: massive amount of publicity that's never ended for seven years
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: since this occurred, almost but Gallainne Maxwell was still a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: free person. She, in theory, was just as dangerous, maybe
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: more dangerous, than Jeffrey Epstein, because she had an incentive
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: to plea bargain and give away all sorts of big
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: names to the authorities. If she had any big names
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to give the authorities. So why wasn't she killed and
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: she hasn't been killed in prison? But she was out
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of prison for two years after Epstein was killed, no
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: attempt on her life. Why Well, because it didn't happen
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that way. Epstein killed himself because he knew the gig
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: was up. It was the second time he had been
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: caught on this. He got over a year in jail
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the first time, but that was when he was a
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: first time offender. This time he was probably going to
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: spend the rest of his life in jail. His glitzy,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: glamorous light was over with. He tried once and I'm
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: not sure if the first time he tried to kill
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: himself was an actual suicide attempt, but just before he
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: killed himself like a few days or a week before,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: there was a suicide attempt. I think, because I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Epstein was a really smart guy. I think it was
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a trial run to see what would happen, and he
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: blamed it on his cellmate because he didn't want to
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: get put in, you know, solid in a situation where
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: he was on suicide watch, so he claimed that he
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: didn't kill himself. And I love, I love how the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: prior apparent suicide attempt is somehow not evidence that he
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: was suicidal. He was trying to figure out a way
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: to get away with this, and eventually he was able
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to get away with this. He killed himself very and artfully,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: but he killed himself. And this past week. Part of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the reason why I'm mentioning this in this detail now
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: is that we finally got the semblance, and I went
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to underline semblance of some sort of a theory as
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: to what really happened here. And this I actually wanted
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to try to do a little bit like what I
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: did with the ted lu bit. I wanted to try
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to pretend that I was convinced that I had been persuaded,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: that I was admitting that I was wrong all this time,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: that there now really is evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: murdered in a federal prison with no one actually being
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: accused of that murder. I wanted to do it that way,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and as I was thinking through it, I decided I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: just can't do it. I just can't. I'm not good
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: enough to do that. I can't convince myself that I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: can even try to believe this because it's just that preposterous.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: So there's basically two prongs, if you will, in the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: last week to supposed revelations of the Epstein files that
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: relate to now suspicious circumstances that are convincing people, even
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: like Megan Kelly and Matt wall To supposedly smart conservatives,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: that there's something to this idea that Epstein really didn't
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: kill himself. The first one is the word of a
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: prison inmate. A prison inmate. Now, prison inmates are notoriously
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: unreliable because they're fucking in prison and their incentive structure
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: is obviously very distorted. But there was this one story
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: that's in the Epstein files that the Miami Herald put
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: on the front page of its newspaper above the fold
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: right under the banner headline prison guards discussed covering up
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Epstein's death in custody. Fellow inmate tells FBI, Now, I
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: don't even need to get into all the details of this.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: You can look up look it up yourself. Forgetting the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: fact that this is one inmate telling a story for
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: which there's all sorts of potential incentives for them to
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: either make it up or exaggerate. Even if even if
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: you believe what this person is saying, if you delve
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: into the details, it's perfectly one hundred percent consistent with
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: what we already know, which is that the guards realized
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: they had a problem. Their most prominent although he wasn't
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: as prominent as people like to believe, now their most
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: prominent prisoner had just been allowed to kill himself under
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: their watch. They were panicked, and people when they are
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: panicked say a lot of strange things. And so even
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: assuming that the inmate was reliable and quoting this conversation,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's possible that they were
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: in the position to hear it, but we just presume
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: everything is true. To me, as I read the article,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this proves he killed himself. This is these
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: guards in a panic over Oh shit, we're gonna get
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: in trouble for this because we didn't do our due
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: diligence and making sure that nobody killed themselves in their cell.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: And by the way, we have evidence of this. There
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: were two prison guards who were fired because they falsified
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: records to make it look as if they had been
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: doing their jobs overnight making sure no one killed themselves
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: like Epstein did, and they hadn't done their job. So
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: this is all very consistent with what we already know.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: But if you take little pieces, little kernels you're looking
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: for the conspiracy, you downplay the parts that discredit that theory,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and you highlight ridiculously. I mean, this is the idea
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: that that story years ago from an inmate was the
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: top story in the Miami Herald. That should be pointed out.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: The Miami Herald is the home of Julie K. Brown,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the reporter who the media loves, who's a complete liberal
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: crock pot, and I believe a moron who was really
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: at the center that she was the Sarah Ganum of
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: this entire case. She ignited the moral panic and the
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: witch hunt, the firestorm. So the Miami Herald has absolutely
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: no credibility in this situation. They're very deeply invested in
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: this crazy conspiracy which Brown believes in. I played a
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: clip a couple weeks ago. Brown believes without evidence that
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Epstein was murdered, and so we have this inmate story.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: It's actually very consistent with what we already know if
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you use your brain. And then there's a second part
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: of this situation because one of the people who lost
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: their jobs because they falsified records, although they were not charged,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: those charges were later dropped is a woman by the
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: name of Toba Noel. Now Toba Noel is really interesting
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: when she's gotten a lot of attention over the last
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: couple of days, and there's now even talk that she
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: will be called to testify in front of Congress, which
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you is not gonna happen publicly, because
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: if it ever did, it would be absolutely humiliating for
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: those questioning her, partly because Toba Noel is a black female.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: She appears to be an obese black female, at least
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: she was during the time period of Epstein killing himself,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: and she was a prison guard who had literally just
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: been hired. She had just been hired certainly seems to
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: have all the markings of a DEI hire. Here she
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: is a black female, obese who is hired to do
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: overnights at this federal person and and so there's nothing
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: about her profile. It's close to that's the person you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: would pick to be part of, or to mastermind the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: assassination of Jeffrey Epstein on the part of very powerful people.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, Lee Harvey Oswald was a way better pick
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: than than Tobn Noel. But this is just the beginning
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: of this absurdity. So they're there the Epstein didn't kill himself.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: People including Megan Kelly and Matt Walsh are now somehow
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: of the belief that there's enough suspicion around Toba Noel
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: that somehow there must be something to this idea that
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Epstein killed himself. And here's there's not an actual theory.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: This is part of what is so frustrating about debunking
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: this bullshit, because these people never give you an alternative theory.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: They never do that. They just oh, I'm asking questions.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: This is suspicious. This, you know, this is enough for
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense that there must be something else
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: going on here. Well, tell me what that is. I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: am very open minded. Tell me what this is that
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: you're referring to. Just tell me what it is. I'm
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: more than happy to consider it. But they won't do
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: that because it always breaks down immediately after getting out
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: of the batter's box. But here's how they think they're
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: getting out of the batter's box with regard to Tovia Noel.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: So she just gets hired like a week or so
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: before this, and she's one of the guards that got fired,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and she was apparently googling, googling quote latest on Epstein
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: in jail about thirty minutes before he was found dead
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: in prison. Now, and she apparently googled this twice. Because
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: after aw, every criminal mastermind knows that the first thing
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: you do when you are committing a major crime is
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you google about it just before the crime is committed.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's criminal masterminding, one oh one, that's what
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: you do. So, I mean, right off the bat, we
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: know that either this person is not a criminal mastermind
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: or there is something else going on. Now, I don't
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: know why she was googling latest on Epstein in jail.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I'd like to hear her response to that. I have
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: no problem with her being asked that question. I'm guessing
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: somewhere in this investigation. She was asked that because clearly
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: somebody investigated her, the evidence of which is very clear,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: which A're going to get to momentarily. But I actually
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: have a theory. It is just a theory, and see,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: unlike the conspiracy crazies, I am willing to outline an alternative.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: And I have no evidence for this, but it would
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: makes sense. I think it's possible that the time stamps
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: are messed up. Possible because what if it wasn't thirty
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: minutes before he was found dead? What if who knows?
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it possible that day either daylight savings
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: time or there are there is something on Greenwich meantime
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever, maybe the timing on all this, or maybe,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: by the way, maybe Epstein actually killed himself earlier than
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: we know, right, maybe there was a delay because there
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: was actually some sort of a cover up. It wasn't
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: a cover up of his murder, it was a cover
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: up of oh shit, how did we let this happen?
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: And so is it possible that, through either of those
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: scenarios that I just laid out, that she's actually googling
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: about him after he's dead, Because that would make sense, right,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: that would make more sense in your panic, you're wondering,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: is it possible that someone's found out about this? Is
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: there anybody posting about this? I mean, that would make
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: at least some sense, But regardless, that doesn't prove anything.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Latest on Epstein in jail is actually evidence that you're
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: not part of a crime, first of all, And how
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: would that even fit into the crime if you were
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: part of it? Well, the supposed smoking gun of her
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: involvement is not just the googling. It's that she received
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: a mysterious payment. What makes it mysterious? I don't know.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: It sounds a little racist to me that a black
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: female getting a payment of money is inherently somehow mysterious.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: But I have said time and time again, part of
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: why I know Epstein wasn't murdered is that we would
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: know who the guards were that could have possibly accessed
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: his cell, and all we would have to do is
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: look at their financial situation. If you had someone that
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: quit their job almost immediately afterwards and started living in
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Saint Bart's and was living in an extravagant lifestyle, you go, oh,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's a very fishy situation. We need
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to look into that. That would make sense because if
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory is true, somebody really wanted Epstein dead
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: but they didn't care about Maxwell being alive for some reason,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: and they would pay a lot of money. It would
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: require a lot of money to be paid for someone
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: to jeopardize their union cooshy job as well as their
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: freedom because they could go to prison for the rest
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: of their life if this didn't go well, So what's
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the smoking gun on this, what's the mysterious payment? Well,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: this Toba Noel was paid wait for it, bum bum bum,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. That's right, five thousand dollars. She was
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: paid five thousand dollars about a week or so before
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Epstein died in a prison where she just started working.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Now you might hear eleven thousand and some odd dollars,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: that's bullshit. That's the media trying to desperately come up
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: with enough money to make this make even a little
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: bit of sense. Those payments were made before she was
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: ever even hired at the prison. So, by the way,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: before Epstein was even at the prison. So I mean,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: and again I'm not sure, how is it that five
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: thousand or eleven thousand dollars of payments over a significant
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: period of time is somehow inherently mysterious. Come on for
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, And I'm being serious about this. If
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: someone said to me, and so there are those that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: will say, well, John, why maybe she was just part
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: of it. Maybe she wasn't behind it, Maybe she was
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: just being paid for her silence or her participation in
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: this massive conspiracy to kill Epstein, And okay, well great,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: So where are all the other payments we know about
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: her payments? Obviously that means someone did an investigation into this.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: So where are all the other payments? Who else got paid?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Why is there no evidence we've done a rectal examine
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: on this? Why is there no evidence of anybody else
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: getting supposedly mysterious payments? But even the five thousand dollars
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't explain any of this. If you said to me, Zig,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: we want you to take part in a plot to
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: assassinate Gavin Newsom, and you're gonna put you know, your
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: freedom on the line for the rest of your life
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and your kid's reputation, and you know there their well
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: being and everything else. You know, if it doesn't go well,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: you know, that's all in jeopardy. But we know you
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: don't like Newsom, so you're a good candidate to participate
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: in this plot to kill Newsom. And I say, well,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: what's in it for me? And they say, well, we're
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: gonna pay you five thousand dollars. And by the way,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: that payment will only be before it happens, not after,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: because that's a big part of the problem here. The
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: only way these kind of you know, the negotiations work
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: is if there's a payment before and a payment after.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: You do a payment before so that both parties are
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: locked in, but you got to do a payment after,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: because otherwise, what's to stop the person from just taking
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the five thousand dollars and not carrying through with their
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: end of the bargain because they don't want to put
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: themselves in jeopardy. Come on, people, use your fucking brains.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: But back to the Newsom thing. If they said to me, Zig,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: you don't even have to actually be the one that
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: kills Newsom. You just need to participate in a key
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: way and help cover it up and help facilitate it,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna pay you five thousand dollars, I'd say,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. And this is something
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: the other situation, where I obviously hate Gavin Newsom, there's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: no evidence this woman had of the animus towards Jeffrey Epstein.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: So the five thousand dollars is ridiculous, It's absurd, it's comical,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: especially without a second payment. Now I am I am
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: much more open than the conspiracy nuts. I am totally
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: open and have always been open to the idea that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: maybe Epstein paid people off to look the other way
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: to help him get away with killing himself. Totally open
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: to that. That makes a little bit of sense. You
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: know why it doesn't make total sense though, It's because
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Epstein's in prison and we have all of his communications.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: So how could he organize this payment plan without us
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: knowing about it? I could he even communicate with someone
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: outside of prison to make the payments to Toba Noel?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And by the way, who paid Tobin Noel the five
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars? Was it from British Royal Family Inc? I
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: mean it was on behalf of Prince Hanrew I mean, okay,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: then you'd have something. If the five thousand dollars payment
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: was from British Royal Family Ink, then I'd be like, oh, okay, well,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: something's going on here, but we haven't even been told
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: who the fact paid are the measly five thousand dollars.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: It's just so ridiculous. And like I said, I mean
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Meg and Kelly, who I've been very, very very critical.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I think she's losing her mind. She's part of the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Alliance of lunacy with Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens, but
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: she did a whole dire tribe about how much this
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: makes her reconsider the whole Epstein death situation, and I'm like,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: at best, at best, the Toba Noelle story is consistent
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: with suicide, not murder. And by the way, just to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: be clear, I don't think she had anything to do
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: with any of this. I think this is just actually
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: evidence that somebody did a pretty thorough investigation and found
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: a couple of breadcrumbs that didn't turn out to be
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  Speaker 1: related to this, for all the reasons that I've already
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  Speaker 1: pointed out, but it is I acknowledge it is theoretically
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  Speaker 1: possible that there was some effort. And again I don't
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  Speaker 1: think this is the case with her because the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing doesn't make any sense to me, but it is
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  Speaker 1: theoretically possible that somehow Epstein was able to create a
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  Speaker 1: situation which allowed him enough leeway to kill himself. That's possible,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not even remotely close to proving that. But
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  Speaker 1: the mind boggling part of this is, even if they
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  Speaker 1: did prove it, that actually goes against their whole fucking theory,
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  Speaker 1: because that's so aside. It's still so aside, whether or
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  Speaker 1: not the guards were somehow in on it or not.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't think the guards were
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  Speaker 1: or not, because they wouldn't have been panicked, they would
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: have been prepared. They ended up basically forging the record keeping,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: which is why two of them lost their cushy union jobs.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: It's just so, it's just so mind bowling. And then
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  Speaker 1: we have this ridiculous situation where we've got authorities on
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  Speaker 1: public resources, you know, searching the New Mexico ranch of
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein looking for this is so crazy. This is
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  Speaker 1: so crazy looking for supposedly two missing girls, quote unquote
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  Speaker 1: foreign girls. There's no names attached to this. We've completely
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  Speaker 1: lost our minds. We're there's there's there's public resources. People
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  Speaker 1: are actually working in the hot New Mexico side right
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  Speaker 1: now as we speak searching Epstein's ranch for two quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote missing girls, foreign girls, whatever the hell that means
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  Speaker 1: that we don't even know who they are. There's no
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  Speaker 1: evidence that there's specific people that are being searched for.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure I'm articulating this properly because it's
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  Speaker 1: just so crazy when you have a missing person's situation.
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  Speaker 1: When people die, because the allegation here is that they
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  Speaker 1: were killed in some sort of a sex act and
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  Speaker 1: then they were they were dumped at the New Mexico
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  Speaker 1: ranch of Epstein. When people go missing, especially young girls,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: guess what happens. People know they went missing, they report
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  Speaker 1: them missing, especially when they're together. I guess the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they were foreign explains that no one cared about them. Well,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: if they were foreign, how the fuck did they end
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: up in the realm of Jeffrey Epstein. But there's no
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  Speaker 1: basis for this story. It's just a crackpot who called in,
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  Speaker 1: that's all it is. Not because of this moral panic,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: this witch hunt, this insanity, you got members of Congress
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  Speaker 1: out there cheerleading the excavation of a new Mexican ranch
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  Speaker 1: based upon nothing, searching for people who don't even fucking exist.
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  Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. And I've talked before about how much
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: of a mental strain and told this story has taken
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  Speaker 1: on me for reasons I don't fully understand. I hope
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  Speaker 1: I've now turned the corner because I just now think
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: this is so hilarious, is so telling about how fucked
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  Speaker 1: up we are as a society, how totally broken everything,
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  Speaker 1: including what's left of journalism is because these stories are
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: being taken seriously, and yet when there are no missing
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  Speaker 1: girls found in the New Mexican ranch, which there will
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: not be, I would be willing to pend a lot
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: of money on this. And yet when I'm right, no
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: one will start to think, oh, well, Ziggler's been right
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: or up this all along, maybe he should get more credibility,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: And no one will think all the people that jumped
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: on the New Mexico missing Girls story, well they were wrong.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe we should start to reconsider whether or not they're
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: wrong about everything that will not happen, that will not happen.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: And I mean, it's just the insanity knows no ends.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: And I keep hoping for the story to go away,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: but it's not going to go away. And partially because
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: of that, and partially because I've had a couple of
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: subscribers to the podcast asked me to do this. I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: have booked Michael Tracy, independent investigator who's done buy and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: large's a very good job of telling the real truth
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: of the Epstein scandal, and we've had him on the
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: podcast before. I have scheduled him to come on next
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: week's episode of the podcast. Now, I've had trouble in
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: this realm before, so I'm not going to make a
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: promise I can't keep. But he is currently booked. I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: anticipate that we'll do that interview for the next episode.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Michael is in one thousand percent reliable and he's busy,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: but we do have it on the books to record
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: another interview with Michael Tracy for the next episode of
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the podcast. One last note on an issue that's clearly
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: related and just how much we've lost our goddamn minds
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: and how badly of the House Republican quote unquote majority
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: is handling this entire situation, and how they're basically sabotaging
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: themselves into what I believe will be a massacre. Currently
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: in the midterm elections, there was a huge controversy because
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: the House representatives, both Democrats, and Republicans overwhelmingly voted to
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  Speaker 1: not release all of the files related to this frankly
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: stupid settlement program that the House of Representatives created years
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: ago to deal with sexual harassment and abuse claims against members.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: And this is a complicated situation, but it's I think
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: interesting because it goes to the issue of just how
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: much virtue signaling has completely overridden logic and what is
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: right and what is wrong in this world in which
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: we now live. But the vote was overwhelming to not
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  Speaker 1: release the files on this and of course all of
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: the GOP female virtue signalers that have been all over
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the Epstein story were absolutely outraged. Outraged. How could they
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  Speaker 1: possibly not release all this information regarding these sexual harassment
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and abuse claims against House members. Our money has been
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: used to pay off these I guess they would call
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: them victims, and we deserve to know who the perpetrators are.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: And look, I get why. Stupid people. Although even Ron
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: DeSantis posted that he was outraged by this, which really
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: depressed me. And I'm going to hope that Roan didn't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: think it through that. You know, maybe he was just
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: too busy and he just, for what a reason, decided
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: that why would anyone. I just I think he's too
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: smart to not realize that it's very obvious why this
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: was a very very bad idea. And the reason why
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: this would have been a very very bad idea, and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to still try to do it
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, is that as bad
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: as the program was, and I got no problem, you
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: want to get rid of that program, get rid of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: the fucking program. But you cannot retroactively go back and say,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: even though this entire program was based upon the concept
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: of privacy, I mean, that's the entire reason why this
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: thing existed. The only reason why you would engage in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: settlements is if you knew it would never be public,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: because the vast majority of these situations are at best
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: dubious and ambiguous, and a lot of them are probably fraudulent.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: It's essentially a retirement program for women who are getting
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: out of working for the house. You make a sexual
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: harassment or abuse claim and you get some free money
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: on the way out, and they agree to the settlement
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: because it's never going to be public. That was the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: basis of the settlement, And by the way, it goes
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: in both directions, both the accuser and the accused have
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: an incentive to not have it be public, and so
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: you cannot retroactively go back and go, oh well, even
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: though the entire basis of this program was privacy, we're
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: not gonna say, because the public sentiment has changed, fuck
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: you all, we're gonna release all this bullshit because a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: lot of these allegations, I'm sure we're at the very
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: best ambiguous or dubious, and maybe completely fraudulent. Now some
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: of them might be real, but as we've seen from
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: the Epstein Files, there's no way to tell the difference.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: In the media, it's just it's not done by facts
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: or logic. It's done by whatever is most salacious, is
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: gonna get the most clicks. So the Epstein file fiasco
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: should actually prove why this would be a really bad idea,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately the media and even people like Rond de
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Santis didn't understand this. Again, I'm all in favor. If
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: you want to end the program, go ahead and fucking
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: end the program because I don't like the idea of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: our text money being used for this. I can understand
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: why someone thought it might be a good idea at
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: the time, but get rid of the program. But you can't,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: you know, virtue signal over this, and you know, essentially
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: fundamentally alter the entire foundation of why the program was
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: created in the first place, simply because you want some
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: more public executions of elites. Apparently we didn't get enough
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: public execution of elites and the Epstein files. Now we
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: need to do this with how settlement files. There was
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: another issue that was related to congressional testimony where Christy Nome,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: the former head of the Department of Homeland Security, has
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: essentially been fired from her job. I guess you could
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: theoretically call it a dramatic emotion by Donald Trump. This
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: happened just after she gave testimony. And what's really interesting
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: about this, and I'm a little amazed this hasn't It's
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: gotten a lot of publicity, but not as much as
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: you might have thought, although we're in the middle of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: a war and the Epstein thing is still sucking up
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: ball the oxygen. But it certainly seems to me as
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: if the reason why she got fired wasn't that DHS
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: was mishandling immigration raids and people were dying that shouldn't
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: be dying. It was because she was asked about an
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: alleged affair that she's been having with Corey Lewandowski, the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: long time ago former Trump campaign manager who actually technically
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: works for her, And she was outraged by the question
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: this was under oath, but she did not deny the affair. Now,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: what's interesting to me about this affair. There's a couple
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: of things. One, I believe Christin Holmes's husband was there
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: at the testimony, so she is married. And this has
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: been rumored for a very long time. This has been
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years. It's been reported about not
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: by super reputable but somewhat reputable news outlets, although I'm
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: not sure there are any reputable news outlets anymore to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the Epstein situation. But this has been more than a
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: rumor for a couple of years. And I don't know
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: how long ago it was maybe out a month ago.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I saw Trump asked about the reports of the affair
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: between Corey Lewandowski, who obviously he knows very well, and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Christy nom and Trump claimed that he had never heard
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: about this, and it felt to me like he was
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: telling the truth, which I find found to be preposterous.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, because first of all, you know, it's poo people.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: He knows. It's obviously an enticing story. I would think
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Trump would be very curious about whether or not Corey
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Lewandowski was having sex with Christy Nome. Maybe no one
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: brought it to his attention, but he did not seem
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: to know about it. And that took me by surprise,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: if only from a purean interest perspective, but the fact
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: that she got essentially fired the next day after not
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: directly answering the question to me, it was obvious that
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: was the reason that that that Trump became convinced that
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: she was lying. She must she must have said to
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: him at some point, you know that this wasn't happening,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and then she wouldn't respond under oath that it wasn't
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: true when she had every opportunity to do so. So
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: that's why she got fired. And so it's an amazing story.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, Corey Lewandowski and Christinome apparently, I mean, you
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: use your head. They must have been having some sort
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: of a long time affair, which was highly inappropriate, especially
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: given the fact that he was working for her, not
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: to mention the conflict of interest when all sorts of
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: conflicts of interest and the fact that it used to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: matter that she's married, but she's no longer the head
• 1:17:53
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