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Milan Olympics Recap: Pairs · The Rocker Skating Podcast

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Welcome to the Rocker skating podcast, sponsored by John
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I don't have to open a bottle of wine today because the pairs
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free skate was so good and there was such good skating going on
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today and I just I, I, I it was happy to see we were all happy
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to see how much this felt like a competition where people were
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out there to win. People were out there to skate
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their best and not really be afraid.
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You know, we'll talk about how it all shook out, but it really
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was a a really well skated event today.
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And I will not take anyone telling me that it was not a
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well skated event. But the final was Miura Kihara
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moving up from a very disappointing short program to
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win their first Olympic title and Japan's first Olympic medal
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in pairs and of course Japan's first Olympic title in pairs.
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And I'll talk about the significance of this whole thing
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because, you know, if you would have said to me 8 years ago that
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within a decade there would be a Japanese pair who would win the
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Olympics, I would laugh. Everybody would laugh.
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I mean like the the Japanese pair's game back in the day was
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not that strong. And Rico Mira and Ricci Kiara
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has just swung the doors wide open for not only Japanese
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skating, but Japanese pair skating.
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They are going to inspire so many skaters to be interested in
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pairs, to be picking up pairs, much like how Daisuke Takahashi
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and Kana Muramoto inspired a bunch of skaters to go into ice
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dance. And ice dance in Japan has had a
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a longer history and has had a more celebrated history, right?
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With with the reeds, with with Rita Muramoto and then with
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Daisuke in Kana and with Tim and Misato, right?
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Like they have a history. Japanese pairs does not have a
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history at all. And I, I went back to my post
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from September 2019 when Megan Duhamel heard that I was coming
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to Toronto for Autumn Classic. And she said, hey, you got to
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come see this pair. And I was like, oh, interesting.
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She must be really excited about this pair.
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And, and then she was like, oh, it's a Japanese pair.
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And I'm like, oh, interesting Japanese pair.
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And it turned out it was Riku and Ricci.
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And from the moment that I saw them skate, I was like, there's
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something really special about this pair.
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I'm not going to be the one who says that.
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I knew they were going to be Olympic champions when I saw
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them in September 2019. I knew they were special.
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But little did I know how far they would come in a matter of
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seven, 6 1/2 years to not only right be in their second
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Olympics and having won two world titles and two world
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silver medals, but to be able to be here and skate one of the
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epic, epic programs in Olympic history in pair skating.
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It's phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal.
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Let's talk about the whole pairs event because a lot of stuff
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happened. I I'm going to do a little bit
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of a, a re telling of what happened in the short program
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before we go into the free escape because I want to set
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that context for you all. The short program was yesterday.
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Good Lord, it was yesterday and it was a very, I will still call
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it a very well skated event. And what was interesting about
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it was all of the the vast majority of the well skatedness
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of the whole thing yesterday. And the pair short program was
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earlier on in the in the event the last group was less well
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skated and and I think that left a bit of a sour taste in
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people's mouths. But you kind of look at what
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happened and we're talking about, you know, just getting
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into the top 16 to qualify for the free 3 skate, you needed a
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64.65. That's what the Kovalev's got in
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16th place. And just to get into the top
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ten, you needed a 69 point O 8. Like these are huge scores.
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And the reason they were huge scores is because so many of
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these teams skated clean programs.
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And add to the fact that Danilova Shiba and Golubieva
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Giotapis Mort both skated clean programs and didn't make it into
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the free skate. That's why I keep saying that
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this was a really well skated event as an entirety.
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The depth of this set of short programs was just so strong.
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And you saw a personal best, seasoned best, like, all over
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the place. And, and it's fun, but you got
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to the last group and all of a sudden you're like, oh, no.
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Like, yeah, they were getting big scores because they get big
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scores. But they were also not skating
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cleanly, right? You know, Kanti Machi didn't
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skate a clean short. Mattel Kina Barouva didn't skate
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a clean short. Miyor Kihara had a huge mistake
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on the lift that left them in 5th place, cost them like 11
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points. And then you got then the final
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pair, it was Hassan Volodin, Minerva Hassan, Nikita Volodin
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who came and delivered and they went into the free skate with a
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4 1/2 point lead over Mattel Kina Barullova and a an almost 7
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point lead over Mira Kiara. We knew, however, that a 7 point
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lead is not insurmountable given how Mira Kiara can skate and can
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score. So that was how we ended that
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first day. And we also ended the first day
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with Leah Pereira print me show over exceeding expectations
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being in the third. And frankly, I thought they
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should have been second after the short program and Maria
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Pavlova and Alexis Vyachenko being in fourth after also a
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clean program. I mean, they they skate clean
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programs all the time. And that's that's what they do
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and that's what they're known for.
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And that was how we started. And so Fast forward 20 hours
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later, it was a very quick turn around.
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Paris free skate happened and we started off again with some very
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strong programs. The Kovalev's went and skated
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one of the best programs that they, they had skated all
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season, if not the best. Shatinia and and Wozniak were
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beside themselves. I, I love this story because the
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moment I saw Yulia, she was like, I'm here and I'm like, oh,
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right. She was supposed to have been in
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Beijing. She and Mark Magyar, who is her
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old partner, had qualified for the the Beijing Olympics.
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And Mark Magyar got COVID right before the Olympics and they had
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to withdraw. And so Julia didn't get her
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chance to skate at an Olympics. And so for her to be here and
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also to skate that extra program in the team event because they
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the Poland had qualified A-Team to the team event, They they,
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they have just been having so much fun.
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Every single time I see the two of them, it's them just soaking
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up the whole environment. And they were, they were just so
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good. And, and I loved that they were
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able to climb back up from what was a bit of a shaky start to
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their season and deliver the programs like this that they
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did. So those two were, were
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fantastic. Then that was how we started the
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free skate. And then we had Deanna and Max
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and plenty of you know how, you know how how this season has
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gone for Deanna Stellato and Maxime Duchamp.
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And you know that it's been a tough one.
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It's been full of inconsistencies.
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And then it's also been just generally kind of one.
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Maybe they wanted it too much. It was just things were things
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were not clicking for them, right?
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And then they lost the title, their Canadian title, like
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Canadian nationals at the beginning of January.
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And you're like, this is just like the season has just been so
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rough. And then Diane Salado has an
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accident 10 days before, well, like less than a week before
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they were about to go to Milan for the for the team event and
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they had to withdraw from the team event.
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And we all were just like, is the dream over?
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Has Deanna Stellato lost her opportunity to become an
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Olympian after all this, After the comeback from retirement,
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after switching countries, after doing everything under the sun
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that they could to make it to the Olympics and be one of the
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top pair teams in the world, was it over?
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And we found out it wasn't over. And it was just so amazing just
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to know that they have made it here.
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Like I literally just kept being like, I don't care if they even
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make it into a free skate. Like the fact I'm in, like
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Deanna Stellato cares if she makes it to the free skate.
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But I just, I just the story could not have ended with them
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not making it to the Olympics. And it, it would have been just
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a cruel, cruel twist of faith if, if fate, if that was what
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happened, it wasn't. So we're good.
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But the short program was just like, Oh my goodness.
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They, they had a freak fall on the, on the end of their lift,
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which cost them seven points, eight points.
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I mean, they if you, if you just looked at what happened in the
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short program, you, you add those points back to to their
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score, they would have probably been in 3rd, maybe even a little
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bit higher. I don't know, Like it's it, it
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you'll never know. We'll never know what happened,
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but what would have happened? But the fact of the matter is
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Dianna Stellato and Maxine Deschamps came and they made
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their Olympic experience. Their free skate was fine.
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They were struggling with the side by sides, but she really
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hard fall in warm up at the audience gasped at and it was in
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that same corner, ironically, where she fell in the in the
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short program on the on the lift.
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And it was like, Oh my gosh, it was like, Oh my God, Deja vu.
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And then and then they finished the program and she said to Max,
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I think I broke my nose. Add that to the list.
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Turns out she hasn't broken her nose.
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She told me that the doctors looked at her nose.
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It was fine, just just like sore and it was bleeding a little
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bit. I think I was talking to Ting
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Chui and she was saying that it looked like in her ending pose,
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Deanna was had like, you know, done something in the ending
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pose where she hit her nose on Max and she felt it right away.
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And so when they were hugging to celebrate the end of the
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program, she was also holding her nose.
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So that's what happened. But you know, like I can add
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that to the list, but Diane Salado and Maxine the shop end
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up 11th. They moved up a little bit, but
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the fact that they skated OK, but not great, but still didn't
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end up getting the top 10 means that there was a lot of good
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skating to come. So, you know, the next group
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gave us some really fun skating and Haka Kunkel, Ghilardi,
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Amberzini, the two crowd pleasers of this bunch, they
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went out there and did so well. And you know, Annika and Robert,
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probably that was the performance of their career
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totally underscored, especially on presentation.
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And then same thing with with Gillardi Ambrosini.
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They they, they skipped a program that was not as
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difficult as everybody else's because they had watered down
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side by side, you know, over the past few years.
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But it was clean. They did a really great job.
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And again, they're like the presentation scores should have
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been higher because they really do sell that program and and
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they didn't, didn't get the credit for it.
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Too bad. It was, it was too bad for the
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scores, but it was great to see the two of them, these two teams
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just go out there and skate the way that they did.
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And especially for Rebecca and Filo, this could have been their
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last performance. And for them to have done this
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in front of a home crowd and skated that well.
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And you can't ask for much more than that.
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And then we ended that group with Emily Chan and Spencer
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Howe. And if anybody remembers US
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Nationals, you'd know that one. It was a very close race between
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them and Audrey Shin and Balaji Naj for that second spot for the
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Olympic team. But 2, they left US nationals
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kind of being like, like, is that the best we can do it?
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Like it they they moved up after the short program, but the free
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skate was still sort of like, OK, we can do better.
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And then they come here and they skate one of the best short
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programs they've ever skated. And then they will go to the
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free skate and they skate one of the best free skates that
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they've ever skated. I like it was just it it it was
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really good to see the the really big issue was Emily Chan
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falling on on her solo triple toe.
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But they opened with a really nice triple sound double axe,
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double Axel. Might have been the first time
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I've ever seen them hit that combo anywhere, including
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practices I'd like. I might be wrong but begs the
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question as to why she's not why they're not doing the side by
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side triple sows in the short program.
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Because the the sow has been really hit.
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It hit for them in at National and frankly, I that was that was
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the combo that got them to the Olympics.
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Like if they hadn't done the the triple sows and it was a triple,
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they I think they only did 1 double axle out of it.
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But if it weren't for that triple sow at nationals, they
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wouldn't be here right now. And they really made the best
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out of this, this event for them.
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And they end up 7th, 7th at the Olympics for a team who many,
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including me, expected to not be in the top ten.
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That was just a fantastic skate. And, and, and they really proved
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themselves here, you know, not only to the pundits, but also I
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think to themselves, I think they've, they they had doubted
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themselves after Spencer house surgery and, you know, the long
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time it took him to, to get his shoulder back in shape, all of
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that sort of stuff. And now they are a top seven at
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the Olympics. And, and you know, it's, it's,
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it's great, great to see. So that was the first two groups
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that it was, it was a, it was a really good start to the event.
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But then we knew, yeah, we had eight pairs who really all could
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lay it down. And, you know, Sarakanti
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Nikumachi had probably the worst skate of their Olympics.
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It was, it was difficult, right? I, I, I, I watched her step out
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of her double axle and I saw her knee buckle and her, it was her
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right knee, right? Her right knee is the one that
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was injured. A month and a half ago and I I,
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my heart stopped a little bit because I was like, what's
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what's going to happen? Did she reinjure anything?
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Luckily everything else looked fine, but I do think she was,
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she was a little bit cautious and everything was just a little
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bit off. And there were a bunch of
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errors, minor errors that all added up to a lot.
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And so they, they, you know, a lot of them had expected them to
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be, a lot of folks had expected them to be in the conversation
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for the medals and all those mistakes just come out of it
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completely. But they they were still the
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leaders with the last 7 left. And then the defending Olympic
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champions came on and Wenjing Sway and Songhat were as good as
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we had seen them all season long.
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And even though Wenjing Sway had singled her triple toe and then
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they they elected to go with double sow cows instead of
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triple sow cows. Everything else was really good.
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The lifts were the best that we've seen all season from them.
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They were still small. They were still not, not to the
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same kind of quality that we had seen from them when they were at
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their best, but they were great and, and it was really good to
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see if this was the last event that they have that you know, of
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their careers, they've got to be proud that they were able to
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pull it all together for this individual event and finish in
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the top five. So they were 5th here after all
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of that was said and done and hilariously in the mixed zone
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when doing sway. When they asked her what was
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next for her, she said I can't wait to get into my mobile home
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with my pet meerkat and go around and sell coffee.
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Like this is not a joke. Like, she has a pet meerkat, she
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has a mobile home, and this is what she wants to do.
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So go buy some coffee from Wendy Sway.
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I hope. I hope she makes some good
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coffee. I should.
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I should see if she and Robert Kunkle are talking about coffee
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because Robert Kunkle is a huge espresso nerd and he and I talk
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about espresso all the time. Like he has his own like barista
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set up in his hotel room every single time he travels to
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competitions that is like a professional setup.
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This guy is nuts about coffee. And like when I find people who
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are more knowledgeable about coffee than I am, it's like it's
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kind of mind blowing. I'm less knowledgeable about
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coffee as I am just a drinker of coffee.
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Maybe so. So that was Swayne Hahn and they
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they skated incredibly well and and Cam and O'Shea who went
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before them, had a couple mistakes they ended up dropping.
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You can't take the team event heroics away from them.
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I know they have to be disappointed with how they
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skated here, but they still they also finished in the top ten.
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There were ninth here and two US parents in the top ten.
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Who would have thought? So then it was time for Riku
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Mira and Rishiki Hara. We knew what the stakes were, we
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knew what the deficit was. They knew what they had to do
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and they knew they had to be clean.
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In order for them to give themselves the best shot of
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contending for that gold medal, they had to be clean.
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And clean they were. They skated exactly like what we
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have seen from them all week. Confident, clean.
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Everything was done spectacularly well.
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The only level they missed, the only little thing that was an
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issue was that they got a Level 3 on their triple twist and not
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a level 4. They almost always get a Level 3
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on their triple twist. And it looked like it was
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probably the the the split that they didn't get credit for
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because it looked like they the catch was clean.
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So that was the only thing. And this is better than how they
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ski in the team event. And we knew in the team they got
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155. And so we knew that this was
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going to be a better score and the judges weren't going to hold
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back Then you know, this is this is at their best, the best pair
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in the world. And they gave them best pair in
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the world scores. It was a 158.
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I was I was kind of looking at those scores and being like, you
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could have gone to a 159. If they would have been last
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said this kid like that, they probably would have broken what,
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60? They probably would have given
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them like 77 on their components, but you know the
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one. The 1:58 that they got meant
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that the only pair who could have overtaken them, given how
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the short programs went, were Hassa, Volodin, and Haas of all.
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Then going with an 80 point short program meant that they
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needed to be like a 151 and they got a 149 at the Grand Prix
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Final. Something something to that
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effect. And at the Grand Prix Final,
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they were pretty much flawless. So that was going to be the
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gauntlet. That was going to be the
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standard that they set. I did not say anything or tell
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anyone, but I was pretty confident that that was your
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Olympic champions right there. Because even if Minerva and, you
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know, had skated Florida State, it would have still been tough
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for them to get that 150. It just you know, that's just
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how they even scored And and the the quality is is not as as
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high, but we'll never know. I guess that final group can
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comes in and Pavlova Spyatchenko get again skates a clean
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program, not quite as free and open as they were in the short.
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There was some really great moments in that program, but
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they skated smaller today and the lifts especially were not
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getting in as much of that ice coverage.
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The side by sides are great. Throws were great, but it was
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the other things in there that that some from getting a bigger
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score. And you know, I think the the
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their improvements over the past season are very noticeable And I
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I think they're going to keep going and, you know, watch out
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these next four years. They we've been proving like
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this. They're going to they, they
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really, they really will be amongst that, that top group
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because they can jump, they can throw, they can do all that
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stuff that they can do it consistently.
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And let's hope that they can get to that, that level of basics
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and and you know, and flow and glutton all that they've already
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been improving on. They finished fourth and it was
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a great, great event for the Hungarians.
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Leah Pereira, Trent Michelle went next and just couldn't
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maintain what they had in in the short program.
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Trent Michelle fell his solo triple S Cal and then there was
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a step out on the throw loop. So just you know, not what they
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did in the team event left a lot of points on the table and ended
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up in place. It was a it was a pretty big
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drop given the the the mistakes and and all that.
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And it was close right amongst those top teeth.
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And so one huge mistake like they had with the side by side
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triple S cow and that was it was it was tough to recover from it.
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And so we end for the final two. And Matel Kina Baruva have been
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known to fall apart in big, big stressful pressure situations.
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And they did not today. They they skated.
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The only thing that was an issue was they step out on the triple,
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the third triple loop. Everything else was great.
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They did as well as really they, they, they could have done and
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they set themselves up with Hasseval and left to go.
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They set themselves up to potentially win a silver medal
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because they they go right behind Mira Ciara, but it was
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right behind by 10 points right. The the gap was already there.
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But I did find out today, I've been complaining about this all
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week, that there is that the phone rings in the middle of
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their program and nobody answers it.
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I've been watching them do that program and when the phone
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rings, Anastasia Mattelkina actually has her right hand
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covering her right ear. And when the phone rings, she
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takes the hand off of her ear. So I take that to be her
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answering the phone. So Mattelkina, you answered the
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phone. Thank you.
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So we end up with the last, last skaters, right?
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Minerva and Nikita come on with. They knew that there was a big
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score that went up for Rico and Ricci.
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I can't imagine that they didn't know.
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They certainly heard that a 221 from the Telkina Barolova went
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behind Mira Kihara into second place.
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So they probably knew what they had to do.
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They probably knew they had to be flawless And but never Hassa
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puts her foot down on her opening side by side combo.
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And I feel like you could just hear, you could hear it in her
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brain, like, uh oh, I'm not flawless and we're not flawless.
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And maybe at that point they, they already were, especially
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Minerva was already like, maybe the Olympic gold has slipped
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away. And it was a very quick 15
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second turn around to their next element, which was another solo
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jump. And Minerva goes and pops that
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triple S cow. And it was very reminiscent of
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what we saw at the Grand Prix Final in the short program where
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she just it, she probably just overthought it.
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And right there, the gold was gone and the silver was gone.
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They needed to be perfect to beat Mirror Kihara, to have a
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chance to beat Mirror Kihara. And they needed to not make a
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major mistake for them to still stay ahead of Batelkina
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Borulova. And they made a big mistake that
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that pops out cost them probably a good four or five points.
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They they got it together and scared the rest of it.
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Well, but still, it wasn't the kind of effortlessness that
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we've seen from them. The the lifts were fine.
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They weren't great. The the throw triple loop, the
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one that she fell on at Europeans, it was a little bit
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tight. It was just like they held on to
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it and they held on to that bronze medal and it and, and
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they, they, they knew when they got off the ice that the, the
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gold was gone and likely the silver was gone and they were
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hoping to, to be staying on the podium.
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And they did. And that that was that was your
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top 3. Mira Ciara again with the
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historic gold medal or Japan, Mattelkina Berulova with a
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historic silver medal for Georgia, the first ever medal
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for Georgia in figure skating. And then Haasa Volden wins
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bronze. And you know, Germany has had
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had had some decorated teams in the past.
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You know, we know, we know about Savchenko Musto, we know about
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Savchenko Zokoee, we know about Berto and Stoyer.
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I I know there are plenty others before that without These are my
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era. It's kind of skaters and Jose
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Volodin follow in the footsteps of these great teams and, and
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how they have an Olympic medal. And all three of these teams
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were just so happy to be on the podium.
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And obviously Mira Kihara is so happy to be Olympic champions
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and to be able to overcome the blip from the short program to
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to make it to the top of the podium.
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It was really, it was, it was funny watching the leaders share
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that I was there and and that basically every time somebody
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passed by Mira Kiara after they've they finished, they were
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sort of bowing to them like, you know, we're not worthy kind of
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bowing. All of the skaters knew how well
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they skated and that it really was one of the historic
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performances in pair skating. I I mean, I was late to this
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podcast because I had watched it three times before I came on.
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Rikumira Rishikihara, you are Trail Blazers and you will
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inspire so many people in Japan. And I've had a lot of words
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here, but I really don't have words anymore.
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It was just, it was it was a really good event.
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And let's just say, and let's just hope that the pairs have
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cleansed the arena and we have one final event left.
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And that's the women's event that starts tomorrow.
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Oh, if, if, if the women's event is anything like what we expect
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it to be and what we have expected it to be all season
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long, it's going to be really good.
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And it all starts with a short program tomorrow and then they
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have a break on Wednesday and they will finish with the free
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skate on Thursday. It's going to be a fun one.
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Let's hope. Let's cross our fingers because
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this Olympics have been, as Olympics go, a little bit weird
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and a little bit really good. And count Mira Kihara's free
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skate as one of my favorite performances of the event
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alongside Matteo Rizzo's free skate in the team event,
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alongside Gillis and Paul Poirier, free dance and the
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individual event. I hope we have more memories.
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I hope we have more great skating coming up.
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All right, well, this is Jackie Wong, chief skate nerd,
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rockerskating.com. This chief skate nerd, by the
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way, will be back on Gold Zone on Thursday on NBC Peacock in
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the US to talk about more things before the final event, the WHIP
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free skate. So stay tuned for that.
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Thanks again always to on Wilson Blade or there's support and to
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Tara Nichols for making me sound pretty decent hopefully.
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And again, the women's short program is tomorrow and let's
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get some sleep and I will talk to you again soon.
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Bye.