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The Bolt Report | 26 May · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: It's the gold reform It.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, Victoria's Labor government bans machetes but shouldn't be banning
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  Speaker 2: the criminals who actually use them. And an airport club
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  Speaker 2: says no to its female players playing against the transgender
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  Speaker 2: woman more than six feet tall. Also tonight, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: finally cracks it with Walker and or Vladimir Putin, but
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  Speaker 2: claims it's Putin who's changed.
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  Speaker 3: Killing a lot of people. And I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: the hell happened to Putinin and.
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  Speaker 2: Jimminis Chris Bohone is told off by a priest for
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  Speaker 2: eating past the during mass. And that's the man overseeing
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  Speaker 2: the disastrous green energy revolution. We'll talk about that too,
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  Speaker 2: But first, so just three weeks after the election that
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  Speaker 2: Labor claimed endorses green energy plans. Up go your electricity
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  Speaker 2: bills again. It's just amazing. And the shameless thing. The
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  Speaker 2: shameless thing today is that the Albanezi government exploited these
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  Speaker 2: bad floods in New South Wales for political gain, blaming
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  Speaker 2: them on global warming and doing this on the same
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  Speaker 2: day of this big jump and electricity price is up
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  Speaker 2: to nearly ten percent, and putting the two together, I
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  Speaker 2: think is not a coincidence. Let's take this one by one.
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  Speaker 2: These floods, the government today said again and again, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is the global warming we're fighting.
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  Speaker 4: Besides told us they would be more frequent and they
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  Speaker 4: would be more intense. That it's precisely what tragically.
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  Speaker 2: Is playing out.
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  Speaker 5: We all know that we're a country that does have
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  Speaker 5: these extremes, but climate change is absolutely exacerbating that the
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  Speaker 5: frequency and the intensity of these events.
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  Speaker 4: We know that we have to deal with the challenge
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  Speaker 4: of climate change. We're reminded as well of the need
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  Speaker 4: to look at the impact and cost of climate change.
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  Speaker 4: Dealing with a cyclone off the coast of southeast Queensland
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  Speaker 4: and northern New South Wales just a short time ago,
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  Speaker 4: dealing with floods but also dealing with drought in parts
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  Speaker 4: of South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Now, listening to them, you would almost be convinced they're
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  Speaker 2: so sincere that the science really did tell us that
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  Speaker 2: global warming would mean more cyclones, more floods, more droughts,
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  Speaker 2: and floods and droughts at the same time in the
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  Speaker 2: same country, which is a bit odd, but anyway, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: global warming yeh, it's going to mean all those things cyclones,
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  Speaker 2: flood strouts, and this apparently is why the government is
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  Speaker 2: making you pay a four to stop it, like with
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  Speaker 2: these power bills, except for a start. Albinizi is telling
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  Speaker 2: you Porky's the science doesn't say that. Well, not the
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  Speaker 2: science of the world's global warming bible. The United Nations
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  Speaker 2: are the biggest pusher of the global warming scare, and
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  Speaker 2: it's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the uns IPCC publishes
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  Speaker 2: regular reports on the state of the science released the
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  Speaker 2: science that leans its way. So Albinizi you heard tells
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  Speaker 2: you more cyclones sign of global warming. This IPCC says, well, know,
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  Speaker 2: the science tells us Australia has actually had fewer tropical
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  Speaker 2: cyclones since nineteen eighty two, and most climate models predict
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  Speaker 2: will get even fewer. You also heard Albanize today tell
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  Speaker 2: you the climate science said global warming will give us
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  Speaker 2: more droughts. The IPCC, the actual scientists in their twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one report, well, actually there is in fact low
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  Speaker 2: confidence in US getting more droughts, low confidence in the
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  Speaker 2: emergence of drought, frequency and observations for any type of
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  Speaker 2: drought in all regions and you heard Albanizi today tell
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  Speaker 2: you that the climate science tells us that global warming
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  Speaker 2: would give us more floods. But again the real scientists
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  Speaker 2: at the IPCC say, well, actually there's low confidence, and
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  Speaker 2: even that in the emergence of heavy precipitation, heavy rain
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  Speaker 2: and pluvial and river flood frequency and observation, no confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Now none of this is to say that we're not
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  Speaker 2: seeing you know, natural changes in weather patterns, as we've
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  Speaker 2: seen so often in this country. I mean, you look
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  Speaker 2: at the rainfall in New South Wales that albanize is
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  Speaker 2: talking about. It was the fact drier in the first
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  Speaker 2: half of last century, wetter in mid century. And we've
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  Speaker 2: had a mixed bag since. But Labor is brilliant in
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  Speaker 2: telling you the big life. Well you saw that at
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  Speaker 2: the last selection, didn't you, You know, lying that the
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  Speaker 2: seven nuclear power stations promised by the Liberals would cost
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  Speaker 2: six hundred billion dollars six hundred billion and then nucleus
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  Speaker 2: too risky. Now when you see these floods, now, when
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  Speaker 2: you hear the historical you know there really hysterical reporting
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  Speaker 2: in the media. Oh it's climate change. Well it's obviously
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  Speaker 2: going to be a pretty easy argument for labor to
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  Speaker 2: win with people that don't look at the facts. But
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  Speaker 2: there's a cost, a real cost of these lies. And
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  Speaker 2: we saw it again today these power prices, the increase
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  Speaker 2: when the austrained Energy Regulated announced this default Market Office
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  Speaker 2: for electricity, that's a reference price for what the retailers
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  Speaker 2: can charge you. Now, of course we've suddenly got to
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  Speaker 2: forget the governments promised three years ago that it's green
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  Speaker 2: schemes would actually cut your bills.
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  Speaker 4: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 4: and seventy five dollars a year, two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 4: five dollars.
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  Speaker 2: And as you know, your bills is they're shot through
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  Speaker 2: the roof. And now they are going up yet again
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  Speaker 2: in Southeast Queensland up by up to three point seven
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  Speaker 2: percent depending on the region. South Australia up to three
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  Speaker 2: point two percent, but in New South Wales up by
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  Speaker 2: as much as nine point seven percent. Small business customers
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  Speaker 2: are standing off of plans will pay between zero point
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  Speaker 2: eight percent to eight point five and the Australian Energy
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  Speaker 2: Market operated last week warned it could get even worse,
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  Speaker 2: would you believe? And once again this time is because
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  Speaker 2: of the cost of stringing wires out to all these
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  Speaker 2: new wind and solar plans we're going to build who
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  Speaker 2: knows where far away all over the countryside. That cost
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  Speaker 2: is exploded up to fifty five percent in just one year,
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  Speaker 2: and guess is going to be paying for that. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to be building ten thousand kire's a new wire
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  Speaker 2: to hook them all up, according to the government, and
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  Speaker 2: that cost is now so high the strain energy market
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  Speaker 2: operator says, whoops, we might have to now scrap some
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  Speaker 2: of the projects we thought should go ahead to keep
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  Speaker 2: down the costs. Or, as it put it in bureaucrat
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  Speaker 2: talk the other day, the twenty twenty six Integrated System
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  Speaker 2: Plan will revisit transmission network projects previously identified as a
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  Speaker 2: needing to proceed, seeking to ensure that overall costs for
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  Speaker 2: consumers are optimized. In other words, this is called costs
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  Speaker 2: as are monsters. So let's start cutting the plans. So
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  Speaker 2: let me repeat, the government's global warming schemes are falling apart.
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  Speaker 2: They cost much more than you were promised, they are
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  Speaker 2: taking much longer than you were promised. And always remember
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  Speaker 2: that no matter what we do anyway, it will will
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  Speaker 2: not make a difference to the climate. We are just
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  Speaker 2: too small. All that for nothing. So that is why
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  Speaker 2: the abbe is. The government today was a lying Look
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  Speaker 2: at the floods, look at the drought, look at the
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  Speaker 2: cyclone actually non cyclone alph it in March. It's all
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  Speaker 2: global warming. That's what we're trying to stop. They tell you,
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  Speaker 2: that's stuff, All this awful stuff is why we are
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  Speaker 2: forcing the screenpower on you. That cough so much. No, actually,
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister Alarde even about that bit today. When
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  Speaker 2: you link the floods to your bills.
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  Speaker 4: We have a responsibility, in my view, not just to
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  Speaker 4: take action domestically, but to be a part of global
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  Speaker 4: action as well. Now the transition that is occurring. We
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  Speaker 4: know the cheapest form of new energy is renewables.
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, renewables are so cheap. Why are our bills rising?
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  Speaker 2: Yet again, I don't think it means what you say.
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  Speaker 2: It means say that cheaper. Here's what's really going on.
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  Speaker 2: This government needs votos to be frightened about global warming.
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  Speaker 2: Because frightened people they don't think straight and they don't
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  Speaker 2: ask the two basic questions with anything people are trying
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  Speaker 2: to sell you. Wait, what's this going to cost Wait
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  Speaker 2: what good will this actually do? And the answers here
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  Speaker 2: are plenty, cost you plenty and do that does no good?
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  Speaker 2: You really are being conned. Yeah, so up go your
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  Speaker 2: electricity bills again. But Andrew Hasty, who is tipped as
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  Speaker 2: a future Liberal leader, is already saying, well, labors race
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  Speaker 2: to slash our emissions to at zero, it's just costing
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  Speaker 2: too much. And he now wants out on four corners
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  Speaker 2: the night. He'll say, I think the question and at
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  Speaker 2: zero that's a straight jacket that I'm already getting out of.
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  Speaker 2: This changes mind. The real question is should Australian families
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  Speaker 2: and businesses be paying more for their electricity? Joining is
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  Speaker 2: the pannel Michael Kroger from Victorian Liberal President Steve Conroy
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  Speaker 2: formulated centers in cabinet Minister Michael, does anyone seriously believe
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  Speaker 2: that all this pain of higher bills and higher taxes
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  Speaker 2: the pay for green energy is worth it, that it
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  Speaker 2: will change the climate for the good. Should the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: actually instead be dropping the net zero target as Andrew
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  Speaker 2: Hasty now seems to think too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you said it won't make any difference to
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  Speaker 1: the climate. Here and look this fellow ub An easy
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  Speaker 1: just trades in fear. That's his that's his stick. This
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  Speaker 1: is the hallmark of his prime ministership. Fear of fear
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  Speaker 1: of seas rising, fear of coastal communities are being drowned,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fear of fires and floods, fear of nuclear
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  Speaker 1: fear that many care will be slashed and burned, fear
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  Speaker 1: that their secret cuts everywhere. I mean, the guy, the
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  Speaker 1: hallmark of this guy's the whole primeistership is just trading it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a race to the bottom by him, trading on
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  Speaker 1: people's fears. Its lowest common denominator stuff. And what he
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  Speaker 1: should do is come out and explain how we're going
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  Speaker 1: to get to net zero, what it's going to cost,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone's got any idea, and far
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  Speaker 1: from bringing the cheapest formatted, I think the answer is
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  Speaker 1: in renewables. As great as they are, they are the
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  Speaker 1: most expensive form of energy. And we've seen that in
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  Speaker 1: recent years. I mean, the public are not mugs. The
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  Speaker 1: bills haven't gone down by seventy five dollars Andrew, they've
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  Speaker 1: gone up by thirteen hundred. So he needs to stop
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  Speaker 1: lying about this stuff. And Stephen Conry, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: stops needs to stop apologizing for it.
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  Speaker 2: Stephen, I think you still have a grin on your
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  Speaker 2: face and selection data. But it's interesting today, Stephen, But
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  Speaker 2: Abny today linking global warming to these floods, to the
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  Speaker 2: drought to the xcyclan Olfred when the science as I
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  Speaker 2: have just quoted from the APCC, the UN Zone Body,
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  Speaker 2: the sciences. Otherwise, do you think he did that deliberately
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  Speaker 2: today to excuse these higher power bills announced on the
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  Speaker 2: same day.
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  Speaker 6: Not at all.
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  Speaker 7: I mean Labors has got reelected on his commitment to
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  Speaker 7: you know, zero ded admissions by twenty fifty. What I'm
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  Speaker 7: really confused about both your and Michael Rebue is I
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  Speaker 7: thought the Liberals. I thought the Liberals were putting forward
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  Speaker 7: a proposal on nuclear power to achieve net zero by
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  Speaker 7: twenty fifty. You know, the constant refrain saying, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the only way to achieve net zero is to go
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  Speaker 7: down the nuclear path. And in case you both haven't noticed,
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  Speaker 7: the National Party last week split the coalition on the
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  Speaker 7: basis that they were demanding that nucleus stay in the
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  Speaker 7: debate and that the Liberal Party must recommit to nuclear
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  Speaker 7: power otherwise, why else and I'll use Little Proud's costing.
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  Speaker 7: Why else are you committing to spend three hundred and
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  Speaker 7: thirty billion dollars on public money on nuclear reactors if
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  Speaker 7: you don't believe that we need to be net zero
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  Speaker 7: by fifty I mean, okay, let's say you know Andrew
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  Speaker 7: Hasty is.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Stephen. Can I turn you and we get rid.
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  Speaker 7: Of spending three hundred and thirty billion dollars of taxpayers money?
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  Speaker 2: You're making billions the electionsideration.
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  Speaker 6: Even I'm just six Proud's number. No, I'm prepared to
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  Speaker 6: take six sexual thinking.
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  Speaker 7: On little Proud's number, Steve billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need to repeat the lies the elections one. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So let's forget that. The point this, Stephen, I want
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  Speaker 2: you to get back to the point. Our power bills
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  Speaker 2: are going up again after being told they would go down,
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  Speaker 2: up again with more warnings. There's even more pain to come.
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  Speaker 2: This is not worth the candle, is it.
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  Speaker 6: Why is the Liberal Party and the National Party demanding that.
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  Speaker 2: The governor for a couple of elections, Stephen, Stephen, for
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  Speaker 2: God's sake, please stick to the topic. Your government three
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  Speaker 2: years already, at least three six years to come with
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  Speaker 2: these global warming schemes that are driving people's bills up.
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  Speaker 7: Discuss well, the Australian people just had a vote and
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  Speaker 7: they supported Labour's position on renewal.
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  Speaker 2: Were more for them?
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  Speaker 6: No one is suggest I mean.
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  Speaker 7: The report after report, report after report say that energy
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  Speaker 7: prices are going up. The question that the Australian public
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  Speaker 7: had to decide was do they support Labour's strategy of
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: a renewable future or the Liberal strategy of a nuclear future.
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  Speaker 7: And they've overwhelmingly voted for Labors renewable.
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  Speaker 2: They're not.
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  Speaker 6: I don't believe for remotely.
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  Speaker 7: I think you are being unkind in Australian public, Andrew,
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  Speaker 7: they are not dumb and the voters get.
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  Speaker 6: It right in that just would well little proud.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to use three hundred and.
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  Speaker 6: Thirty billion dollars.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Look, I've got to cut this talk that they're about
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  Speaker 2: failed policies. You're not going to talk about failed policies.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: You're simply going to say, well people voted for them,
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  Speaker 2: as if that would make them right, that that suddenly
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  Speaker 2: makes the power bills go. They don't. Going back to
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty, Michael tonight, he's said something very interesting about
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  Speaker 2: the future of the Liberal Party, will say four corners tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't listened to this.
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  Speaker 8: There's no reason to think that we won't disappear if
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  Speaker 8: we don't get our act together.
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  Speaker 9: That's how serious this challenge is.
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  Speaker 2: Is he right or do you think you can get
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  Speaker 2: back into the contest sooner than that?
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  Speaker 1: No, of course he's not right. Andrew. Having been in
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  Speaker 1: politics since my first election in nineteen sixty nine, I've
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: seen the Liberal Party written off on many occasions. For
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: that matter, the Labor Party have been written off on
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: many occasions as well. I mean there have been so
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: many articles after elections over the years saying and it
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: does labor? Does Labor have a future? So I've seen
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff before. Know what the coalition needs to do,
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  Speaker 1: and thank goodness they're getting back together. What the Coalation
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  Speaker 1: needs to do is focus back on the issue us
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  Speaker 1: that are relevant to the majority of the Australian people
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  Speaker 1: and the reason why people vote for the Coalition in
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the first place, which is superior economic management, a better
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: tax policy, smaller government, lower regulation, et cetera. Whilst we
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: wander off on to chief Petrol and all sorts of
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: other things which don't, which don't deal with the major
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: problems in this country. We just get lost in a
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: bidding war. Well, you're never going to win. To spend
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  Speaker 1: it on against labor, that's the exact opposite of what
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  Speaker 1: we stand for. And we've at one point two trillion
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  Speaker 1: dollars a debt federally, We've got two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of debt gross debt in Victoria in
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: four years time. I mean, the world is exploding in debt.
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  Speaker 1: Sooner or later, our kids are going to have to
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  Speaker 1: pay for this. And the sooner Susan Lee and her team,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: which I think they will get back onto serious discussions
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: about economics, the coalition vote will rock it because as
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  Speaker 1: soon as people realize the financial disaster that is this country,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the worst alban Ezy will go. Which is why, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Andrew, he's always diverting attention away from economics,
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  Speaker 1: the economy, in the state of the budget deficit and
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  Speaker 1: the national debt onto things like oh, global warming, there's
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: an army against a medicare is going to be slashed.
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  Speaker 1: Two circluses to the side, didn't touch the side, making.
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  Speaker 2: That both anyway, that's enough Michael Krog and Stephen Connory,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much to you both. Finally, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: realizes it has been Vladimir Putin all along causing this
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  Speaker 2: war in Ukraine, dragging out this war. Putin on Saturday
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  Speaker 2: night fired a record three hundred and sixty seven drones
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  Speaker 2: and missiles at Ukraine, aimed at a partner buildings, twelve
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  Speaker 2: people killed, when he's actually been telling Trump from oh year,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm really interested in your plan for a ceasefire.
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  Speaker 2: Now the world could see that Putin never meant it.
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  Speaker 2: But Trump never criticized Putin personally for being a warmonger
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  Speaker 2: until now. But look how he is just reen phrasing it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Trump can't admit that he was always wrong
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  Speaker 2: about his friend Putin. No, he says, look it's Putin
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  Speaker 2: has changed, and damn any journalists wanting to know what
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  Speaker 2: Trump will now do about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, and I don't know what the hell
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  Speaker 3: happened to Putin. I've known him a long time, always
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  Speaker 3: gotten along with him, but he's sending rockets into cities
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  Speaker 3: and killing people, and I don't like it at all Okay,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets
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  Speaker 3: into Kiev and other cities. I don't like it at all. Rather,
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  Speaker 3: what do you want to do about I'm surprised. I'm
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: very surprised. We'll see what we're going to do. What
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: am I going to tell you? You're the fake news,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: aren't you? You're totally faked.
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  Speaker 2: Trump even went harder later, posting that Putin has gone
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  Speaker 2: absolutely crazy and could destroy Russia, although within still gratuitously
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  Speaker 2: attacked the Ukraine's presidents of troublemaker, which I've is shameful.
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  Speaker 2: Join me is the country's top foreign affairs right to
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  Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan of The Australian, Greg, this is a very
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  Speaker 2: different tone from Trump, even if he hasn't gone on
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  Speaker 2: and said and so now I'm going to hit Russia
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  Speaker 2: with even more sanctions. So now I'm not you know,
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  Speaker 2: so now I'm going to arm Ukraine to the teeth
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  Speaker 2: force Putent stop fighting as I said that yet, but
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  Speaker 2: a changed tone.
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  Speaker 10: Well, you're right, Andrew, It's great to be with you.
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  Speaker 10: And this is pretty significant from Trump. I mean, he
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  Speaker 10: hasn't spoken about Putin in those tones before, and everything
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: with Trump is personal, so obviously he feels that Putin
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: has personally let him down. I'm surprised that Putin hasn't
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: been just a fraction more subtle. I mean, he grossly
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: flatters Trump, and that normally works. But just hold off
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: the missiles for a week or something, and you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: he can later blame Ukraine for you know, the ceasfire
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: not coming about or something. But Putin is made a
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: fool of Trump, really because Trump tells us, you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: a few weeks ago, Trump said, I think Putin is
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: going to be more generous. You're going to be surprised
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: at how generous he's.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Going to be.
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: He wants a ceasefire, he wants a peace deal. Now
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: everyone knows the best we can get at the moment
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: is probably a ceasefire in place. If Trump can't get that,
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: then there's no argument that Trump has added a single thing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: And Trump in his first term actually was tougher on
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: Putin than his predecessors had been, certainly that Obama had been.
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: He put on more sanctions, and he gave more powerful
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: lethal weapons to Ukraine. As you say, if Trump's threat
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: now is just to walk away, well that would be
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: walking away from support for Ukraine. So we don't know
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: how what Trump is going to do next. But this
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: is this is a good This is a good a
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: good day, I would think.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So Trump threatens to walk away if there's no ceasefire,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: he doesn't realize that's exactly what Putin would like him
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to do. That's not a threat, it's an incentive to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: keep fighting. Meanwhile, Israel greg has dug itself into what
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I think is a no win war. Now. I totally
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: get that Hamas is still holding Jewish hostages. About twenty
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: three are still thought to be alive. But I fear
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that Israel now is losing so much support as it
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: kills more and more Palestinians without freeing any more hostages.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Now it's allegedly killed nine children of a doctor in
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Gaza and critically injured her husband. Israel's also restricted food
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: supplies to Gaza, although it did let supplies in again
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: last week, and our Prime minister today was very damning.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Have you listen.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: People are starving and the idea that a democratic state
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: with hold's supply is an outrage. Now, that is my
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: clear position. It's one I've indicated clearly and directly to
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the Israeli government.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Greg, I'm less sure of at the word starving.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: There's been a lot of starvation propaganda all through this war.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: But has Israel now gone too far for its own good?
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  Speaker 10: Well, it's a very sober assessment you make, Andrew, a
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: very sober assessment. I think Hamas did a terrible thing
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: to the Palestinians when in releasing the first batch of hostages,
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: it put on such a dance and a performance, and
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: that communicated to Israeli's a couple of things that Hamas
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: remained in charge in Gaza, and that it was going
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: to continue to torture Israeli hostages and their families. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: I really think Hamas sealed a very aggressive Israeli reaction
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: at that point. However, there's no doubt that you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: like you you know, words cannot express the depth of
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: my revulsion of what Hamas has done and what Hamas is.
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: And the moral responsibility for what happens in Gaza lies
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: predominantly with Hummas, and they could stop it tomorrow by
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: releasing the hostages and laying down their arms. But having
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: said all that, Israel certainly does have moral responsibilities towards
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: the population of Gaza, and if you are the administering
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: authority in a territory, you have responsibilities to the people
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: in that territory, even if even if you're in the
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: midst of conflict, and you've certainly got to make sure
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: that they get adequate food. The other thing, an element
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: of Israel's position, which I have been critical of all
• 24:37
  Speaker 10: the way through, is Israel still won't tell us what
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: it thinks happens on the day after Now. It may
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: well be that Israel has to resume full administrative control
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: of Gaza, and with that comes full responsibility. That may
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: well be, even though you know all the international community
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: hates that idea, that may well be necessary. Because one
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: thing is clear, Israel won't tell all right, humas being
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: back in charge of Gaza, Israel would like to have
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: some sort of Arab peacekeeping force and so on. But
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: answer me this, which Arab soldier is going to shoot
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: a Palestinian in order to prevent them from undertaking terrorism
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: against Israel. So I do think, you know, Israel is
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: now in a very morally difficult position, and it just
• 25:24
  Speaker 10: can't go on like this. It has to tell us
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: what it's going to do, and it has to provide
• 25:32
  Speaker 10: for the basic necessities of the population of Gaza.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think morally is one issue. Utilitarian is another.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know that it's doing itself any favors by
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: keeping on fighting so many people dying for no hostages
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: released the Greg Sheridan, thank you so much. We should
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: tell people to read your wonderful column still up online
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: in the Australian on sant today. I wanted to discuss
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it with you, sort of run out of time, but
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: people urge you to read it as one of the
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: best they've run the papers run this year after the break.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Victoria bands machetes after two more horrific attacks yesterday. But
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: who actually made machetes the weapon of choice? And aren't
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: they the ones who should be banned? Victoria's today became
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the first state ever to declare that machetes are so
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: dangerous that as of Wednesday, no one can buy them.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: In a few months, no one can even have them
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: unless they have legitimate use. For centuries, machetes were considered
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: a useful tool. Suddenly now they are too dangerous to own.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So what's changed? Machetes haven't so is it us? In fact,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Victoria now has record levels of youth crime, and yesterday
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: two gangs of youths had a fight at the Northern
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Shopping Center, with at least one holding machete. Note something
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: else the journalists are too frightened to mention. The boys
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: appearance is of an ethnic group where crime rates seemed
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: to be high. One of the boys who were stabbed
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: as in hospital. One shopper performed as citizens arrest and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: four years have now been charged. Some were ready on bail.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: The fear they caused was extreme. Also yesterday another machete
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: attack in Melbourne, another boy injured after being chased down
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the street to a house whose owners was too scared
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to let him in. Again noticed something about the alleged defenders.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: A group of males as seen fleeing a Windham Veil property,
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: one of them holding a blooded machete.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: But apparently the answer to all this is the ban
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the weapons not restrict immigration in tastes from countries where
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: records suggests the young might struggle to integrate here.
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: Effective immediately are we bringing in place a ban on
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: the sale of machetes here in Victoria and this ban
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: will be in place from midday on Wednesday under consumer powers.
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: Using these powers Victoria will be banning machetes from being
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: sold anywhere in the state.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Now, this is just avoiding the issue. We didn't have
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a big problem with machetes when I first came to Melbourne,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: although there was later a spate of attacks with knives, cleavers,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: swords and true machetes that seemed often to involve people
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: of Asian appearance. Just like today, when you hear of
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: people shot in the Sydney street, like two men shot
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in the car yesterday, you tend to think straight off
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Middle Eastern crime and that particular shooting does indeed seem
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to be another hit of a person linked to a
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Lebanese crime game. The second time has been shot at
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: this thumb looks fatal And again I'm thinking, shouldn't we
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: be talking about immigration intake and adjust that when some
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: people from some countries and some cultures might have more
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: trouble fitting in. But back to the machete band. A
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: band is the answer, But what next? What do we ban? Next?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Do we ban? You know, what if they start waving
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: around axes? I mean they're very useful acxes, but they're
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: also very deadly, or or how about a hatchet that's
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: sold at Bunnings, or we start banning that, I mean
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: they'll turn to something or maybe just the humble kitchen knife.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: How many of there are we going to ban that
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: as well? Or you a souvenir from Nepal, you know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: or just a baton boy? You could really hurt someone
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: with this, you know, why just ban the machetes? I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: mean the problem is much bigger and what more are
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: we going to ban before we realize the real problem
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: is not the machete but the person holding it? Join
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: mister the panel, Louise Roberts scone his contributor, and Steven Jhavoura,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: author and SINGI your lecture and history at Campion College.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Stephen banning mahitties. I mean, sure, carrying machittes out in
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the streets should be an offense, but I mean banning them.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: What do you make of it? Well, what's next?
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: If you have ax attacks, access are going to be
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: banned as well, you know. Chris Mins, the Premier of
• 30:20
  Speaker 12: New South Wales, made a very interesting interesting admission a
• 30:23
  Speaker 12: couple of months ago when he said the reason we
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: don't have American style free speech laws in Australia and
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: in New South Wales is because we have a multicultural
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: society and so we have to keep social tensions low,
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: otherwise it could all spill over into disharmony and violence.
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: And you have something similar here with this machete band,
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: where you have an obvious ethnic crime problem, and so
• 30:46
  Speaker 12: the response is limiting other people's freedom. And what we
• 30:49
  Speaker 12: learn from this, something that history has taught is that
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: a free society is only possible with a harmonious society,
• 30:57
  Speaker 12: and a harmonious society is only possible with a responsible
• 31:01
  Speaker 12: immigration system. Now Australia has an absolutely insane immigration system.
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: We're bringing in far too many people and we don't
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: even care where they're coming from in the world and
• 31:11
  Speaker 12: whether they can integrate into our present Anglo Celtic British culture.
• 31:15
  Speaker 12: And so consequently we're having social tensions erupting, which means
• 31:19
  Speaker 12: we're having to pass speech vilification laws stopping people from
• 31:23
  Speaker 12: saying things, and now widespread bands on machetes. As you say,
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: the solution is not to ban the machete. The solution
• 31:30
  Speaker 12: is to ban the insane ideology that's driving this crazy
• 31:34
  Speaker 12: immigration policy, and that is multiculturalism. Cancel multiculturalism, Cancel our
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: bad immigration policies don't cancel freedom.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: It is extraordinary is that you for some reason, we
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: now need bands on machetes that we didn't need before,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: We need bans on free speech that we didn't need before.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: We seem to be thinking we're sitting on a powder case,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: which is either false and we don't need all this stuff,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: or it's true and the powder keg's the problem.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: Well, you're right, Andrew, and it does some smack of
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: politicians wanting to be seen to be doing something rather
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: than addressing the causes or the cultural issues that are
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: at play here. And we need to be talking about
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: assimilation and as you've said many times, not all immigration
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: is equal. We need to have that discussion. It is
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: not racist to have that discussion. And it's also interesting
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: that the UK introduced this type of ban in September
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: last year against machetes and another device called a zombie knife,
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: which is a nice basically made for gang warfare. Now,
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: it's too early to say whether this has had an
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: impact on machete related or knife crime per se, because
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: of course London in particular is a real powder keg
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: for knife attacks and knife crime. So whether it actually works,
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: who knows, I mean at least I guess at least
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: they're doing something, but they're not addressing the core issue
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: is why some communities are more point of violence and
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: seeing machete as a legitimate weapon rather than the tool
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: that we know to be in this country, something that
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: you use, you know, gardener's use, or what's used on farms.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: So true is is something biz Stephen Climb change and energy.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Mister Chris Bowe went to an Italian past the festival,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: bought some KNOCKI and ate it during the mass held there,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: which was held in Italian. The priest was so offended
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: that he told the worshippers in Italian this eating is
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: rude and they should respect the mass. Respector Bowen. He
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: doesn't speak Italian because he didn't realize he was sitting
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: in a mess as he chowed down. Fair enough, well
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: look up.
• 33:43
  Speaker 12: What I will say is that at this mass we
• 33:45
  Speaker 12: witnessed two miracles. There was the transf station of the sacraments,
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: and then there was an appearance of Chris Bowen. Because
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: Chris Bowen has been hiding for a very long time.
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: You never saw an appearance during their election. He certainly
• 33:59
  Speaker 12: didn't appear when the Iberian Peninsula went into a blackout
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: because of the same energy system he wants to introduce
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: into Australia. So I think we figured out how to
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: catch Chris Bowen, and that is basically, put out a
• 34:10
  Speaker 12: bowl of KNOCKI on the ground, call the priest, get
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: a mass going. He'll turn up eventually, catch him and
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: then ask him while our energy prices are going to
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: rise nine point seven percent soon.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Louise, even if you arrive late and is apparently in
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: some open setting, he thought there was going to be
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: another event afterwards. Surely at some stage you realize you're
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: munching through your noki that this seems to be a
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: religious gathering, and you stop chowing down, don't you.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: Well exactly, I mean the fact that there was a
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: priest there is a bit of a giveaway, I think
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: as well. But what a calling matters, And I mean
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: the fact that we're supposed to believe this he didn't
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: know was a mass and yet he's supposed to be
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: across the national energy grid and it doesn't give me
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: much confidence really, And good on the priest for calling
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: him out because the behavior was absolutely appalling.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: And just so read.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Look that spot. This is the guy that's supposed to
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: notice everything going on with the electricity grid and he
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't notice the's sitting in a mass.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Louise Roberts, Stephen Trevoura, thank you very much to you both.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: After the break, A woman who thought she was a
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: man is now suing the doctors who cut off her breath.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: She says she wasn't in her right mind. This is
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: a test case. Well, that's embarrassing. That baton I showed
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you was actually a prohibited weapons so some viewers. So
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: instead of giving her back to the where I got
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: it from, I'll have to give it to the police
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: station instead. Sorry to whoever. Well they're going to be
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: minus a baton, but do the right thing. Moving on,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a woman who for years identified as non binary or
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a transgender man is now suing two doctors and a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: monish and minus Shealth for negligence. She's mel Jeffries. She's
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: a thirty three years. She had both breasts surgically removed
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and got other treatment that she says causes significant injury. Now,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the thing is that Jeffreys is now back to identifying
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: as a woman. She was born female, but she's now
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: going to live with the consequences of a treatment, which
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: include pain, body odor, acne, a deep voice, and other
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: unpleasant things I won't mention. And Jeffrey says she's actually
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: had mental health issues for years, and says those conditions
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: weren't under control or managed before doctors then treated her
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: for a supposed gender dysphoria and gave her testosterone, which
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: made it worse. She claims she instead got what's called
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: affirming care. That's where professionals say, yes, yes, yes, you
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: are the gender you say, of course you are. Of
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: course you're exactly actually a man. So this is going
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to be a real test case. Joining me is Andrew
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Amos is an academic psychiatrist, the co author of paper
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: in the journal Australasian Psychiatry warning that there was too
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: much politics and not enough science and help children, especially
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to supposedly change gender. Andrew, this is a tragic case
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to ask you to decide whether
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: mel Jeffries was properly treated or not. That's for a court.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Let's talk generally. You have warned, haven't you, that there
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: will be cases where people who were helped to change
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: gender supposedly then regretted what was done because they so
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: often have mental conditions like autism or whatever, and sakenly
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: thinker transgender surgery will fix them that it won't necessarily
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: go or very well at all, And there will be
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: cases like this because too often health professions do not
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: question their choices.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Look absolutely right. To Andrew, it's a big problem. We
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: know that there have been several thousand kids going through
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: the public gender firm and clinics who have been subject
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: to this type of risk, but we also know that
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: there are many more who've been diverted to the private
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: system where it's almost impossible to keep track of them.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: So in Victoria in particular, there's been a conscious strategy
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: to push these kids out to GPS, and they've dropped
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: previous safeguards like requiring a psychiatrist review before starting dangerous medications.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: And that's the reason you get what has been called
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: diagnostic overshadowing. Untrained professionals are so focused on gender that
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: they missdiagnoses like autism, like depression, like anxiety, and the
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: kids don't get treatment for the things that are actually
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: causing the problem. Now, unfortunately, we know even less about
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: the kids who decide that they've made a mistake and
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: then want to reverse the process of transition, which is
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: called de transitioning, And the story in the Age that
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: you mentioned is an example of de transitioning. The pediatric
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: gender clinics effectively don't monitor for that sort of regret,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: and I think it's because they just don't want kids
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: to de transition. It's like a political belief for them.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: So as with the story in the Age, many trans
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: patients don't realize they've made a mistake until they're adults,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: and by then it's too late to stop all the
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: harmful effects of the medications and surgeries. Now, it also
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: takes great courage for patients who detransition to stand up
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: for themselves because they get a lot of abuse from
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: the trans community that used to be their main source
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: of support. They're almost treated like traitors. So unfortunately, I
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: think it's going to take years to find out just
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: how much damage we've done to these kids and how
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: many have been affected. But given the explosion in patient
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: numbers that we've seen, I think it's going to be
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: a large number.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: That's frightening. Andrew. This is when I hear cases like this,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: someone who says, look, I was having mental problems, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: people kept telling me yes, yes, yes, you're a man
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: because I had this idea for a while and I
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: couldn't get out of it. Makes me wonder about this
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: ridiculous law that Victoria actually passed that makes it unlawful
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: to try to change or suppress a person's sexual orientation
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  Speaker 2: or their so called gender identity. For instance, you know,
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  Speaker 2: by insisting that a transgender man is really a woman.
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  Speaker 2: You can't even pray for these people to accept that
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  Speaker 2: they are the gender they were actually born with a
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  Speaker 2: law like that makes it very hard to counsel person
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  Speaker 2: against doing this. Should a law like that be repealed? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely think so.
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  Speaker 5: These are laws, they're called conversion therapy laws. I think
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  Speaker 5: they're a big problem. I do think they should be repealed.
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  Speaker 5: There's a big case re Devon a few months ago
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  Speaker 5: where essentially the justice noted that the father of the
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  Speaker 5: gender confused boy in that case found it almost impossible
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  Speaker 5: to find a therapist willing to deal with young Devon's
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  Speaker 5: gender confusion with therapy instead of with harmful medications puberty
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  Speaker 5: blockers and hormones. In exactly the same way, many therapists
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  Speaker 5: are terrified that if they have an honest conversation with
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: a gender confused kid, they'll be sued under the conversion
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  Speaker 5: therapy legislation. So this basically leaves kids and their families
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  Speaker 5: entirely dependent on what is called gender affirming care through
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  Speaker 5: the public gender services, despite all the problems we know
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  Speaker 5: that they have.
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  Speaker 2: So I think.
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  Speaker 5: Repealing conversion therapy legislation across Australia is the necessary first
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  Speaker 5: step in reversing.
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  Speaker 6: The harms being done by gender affirming care.
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  Speaker 2: Andreie Amos, I've got to congratulate you again for being
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  Speaker 2: on this path of challenging this because it must be
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  Speaker 2: lonely and a little dangerous and probably cost you your
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: friends along the way, So thank you very much for
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: coming on the show as well. Just on transgender politics,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Lippol Victoria's investigating with the transgender player should be allowed
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: to keep playing against women or whether they are a
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: safety risk to players who were born women. This is
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: after several complaints included from a club Melted South, which
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: threatened to boycott matches against the team with two transgender
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: players who were so big and strong that the club
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: said their female players didn't feel safe. I mean, this
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: is a long way to go after the break police
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: arrested Jew in London for saying things that upset supporters
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: of and Islamist terror group. To believe the true Britain's
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: attacks on free speech are so extraordinary that last week
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: London police arrested a British Jew for holding up a
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: sign mocking the assassinated leader of the hesbela terrorist group
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: which had many of its top operatives blown up by
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Israel using booby trap pages. Now the police actually accused
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: this man to potentially breaching hate laws by offending supporters
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: of these terrorists. He wasn't taking that nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think they're showing this image to person's processing
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  Speaker 4: who are clearly pro Hostbuller and anti Israel, that by
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: doing so would stir up racial hatred further?
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  Speaker 2: Is already are you saying.
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  Speaker 13: That there were people there who were who were pro Hasbella?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Asking were there?
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Is that image?
• 43:14
  Speaker 13: Well, you've suggested that there were by your question that
• 43:17
  Speaker 13: there were people who were pro Hasba? So are you
• 43:20
  Speaker 13: saying that they were pro Hasbella people there? Because it's
• 43:23
  Speaker 13: a prescribed terrorist organization.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Joining me from London is writer, broadcaster and commentator. It's
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the correct, it's the creative see you. But this is
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: just incredible. This is seriously true that you could break
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: the law by holding up a sign the defense supporters
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: of an illegal terrorist groups.
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: It's incredible. I mean, we have to look at where
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: this is coming from.
• 43:47
  Speaker 14: Why are the police in this country that are collectively
• 43:50
  Speaker 14: resolving less than six percent of burglaries and have been
• 43:53
  Speaker 14: doing so for the past five years on average. Why
• 43:56
  Speaker 14: are they going to people's houses arresting them, going with
• 44:00
  Speaker 14: six police officers to arrest people over tweets for example. Well,
• 44:04
  Speaker 14: this comes from the fact that this is easy, This
• 44:06
  Speaker 14: is easy policing for them.
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: They don't have to, you know, break up fights outside
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: of bars.
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: Instead, they're going to people, to gentlemen like this and saying, actually,
• 44:13
  Speaker 14: why are you potentially offending people that are supporting a
• 44:16
  Speaker 14: terror a designated terrorist group here in the UK.
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's even a more egregious story of.
• 44:21
  Speaker 14: A former police officer with the Kent Police Force that
• 44:26
  Speaker 14: had six officers turn up to his house because they
• 44:28
  Speaker 14: were scared that he might throw some free speech at them,
• 44:30
  Speaker 14: and started going through his things saying that he had
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: Brexity content all over the fact that he tweeted something
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: which was basically warning about the rise of anti Semitism
• 44:40
  Speaker 14: here in Britain. These stories are becoming more and more ridiculous,
• 44:44
  Speaker 14: and you just have to wonder why the police doing this?
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: Do they have nothing better to do? And the reality
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: is it's easy pickings.
• 44:49
  Speaker 14: They don't care that they're tanking Britain's international reputation by
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: choosing to go after people for social media posts instead
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: of actually resolving real crime.
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: This is easy, low hanging fruit for them. So this
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: is what they're doing.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: It's just extraordinary, unbelievable. Meanwhile, King Charles is taking on
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump, who said he wants Canada to
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: be America's fifty first state. This is very determined to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: do that. Have that done well. Charles is going to
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Canada to demonstrate that Canada is not for sale, that
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Canada is well, sir, it's sort of his as it's king.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It's just trip really as political as I've just made
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: out to be.
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: Well, it's not as political, but it will be a feature. Unfortunately,
• 45:36
  Speaker 14: this is what Donald Trumps has forced U seventy something
• 45:39
  Speaker 14: year old man who's undergoing cancer treatment and trying his
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: best to be king of his country.
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: This is what he's forced him to have to do.
• 45:46
  Speaker 14: He's going to Ottawa next week for two days and
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: one of the things he will reiterate to the fact
• 45:50
  Speaker 14: that Canada is not for sale.
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: I know people are saying this is a meme that
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: Donald Trump has been banding around to try and distract
• 45:55
  Speaker 14: from other things, but let's not forget this is basically
• 45:58
  Speaker 14: one of the things that one Mark Conney the election,
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: much to the dismay of many conservatives around the world.
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: So the King, who's still technically the head of state
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: of Canada, has to say something because if not, people
• 46:07
  Speaker 14: will be wondering, well, what exactly is the point of view?
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: Why is your face on our money, for example? So
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: unfortunately the King will have to make that point. And
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: I'm sure Donald Trump will be amused to have got
• 46:17
  Speaker 14: the attention of King Charles once again, which is not
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: something that I'm sure he'll be bothered by.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: He'll be less amused if he doesn't get the invitation
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the King Charles gave him to come and visit him
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: at the palace. Europe invested or invented rather the welfare
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: state is and now of course you know it's paying,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: and not just because a lot of people from the
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Third World are flooding to Europe to get some of
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: that dodgs. In fact, Denmark has just raised the retirement
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: age to seventy that's the highest in Europe. Seventy years old.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: How's that going to go down.
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: Like a lead balloon, as I'm sure you can imagine.
• 46:55
  Speaker 14: Look, it's no surprise that the birth rates have been falling,
• 46:58
  Speaker 14: not just across the worlds but the but many developed countries.
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: But the solution to patching that up isn't to import
• 47:05
  Speaker 14: half of the developing world and assume that the cultures
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: will just gel together. One, because it's a short term
• 47:10
  Speaker 14: fix too, because you have a lot of social instability.
• 47:12
  Speaker 14: And three, all those immigrants that you're importing are also
• 47:14
  Speaker 14: going to get old one day and are also going
• 47:16
  Speaker 14: to be expecting their pensions and then so you're going
• 47:18
  Speaker 14: to have to keep up this steady stream. It's almost
• 47:20
  Speaker 14: like a Ponzi scheme of finding and sourcing young people
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: from all over the world with cultures that may not
• 47:25
  Speaker 14: be similar to the native culture.
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: And it's just a huge problem.
• 47:29
  Speaker 14: And this is why you're seeing this surrise and really
• 47:31
  Speaker 14: anti immigrant sentiment across many of the developed world. The
• 47:35
  Speaker 14: question about trying to encourage birth rates and also to
• 47:38
  Speaker 14: improve technological development to actually replace the humans that are
• 47:41
  Speaker 14: not being born. These are the conversations that need to
• 47:43
  Speaker 14: be had. But unfortunately much of Europe is still lagging behind.
• 47:47
  Speaker 9: And we'll see that. You know, our.
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: Countries go the way of Japan or Korea, whose birth
• 47:50
  Speaker 14: rates are basically in the toilet.
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: But meanwhile, I've seeing your Prime Minister talking very tough
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: suddenly on HIMIL like he's you know, from the fire right,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: almost that we're not quite whether remains. There's another thing.
• 48:07
  Speaker 14: Yes, I know, the same man who voted against every
• 48:09
  Speaker 14: immigration reform bill since twenty fifteen has suddenly become the
• 48:12
  Speaker 14: UK's borders. Are you are as surprised as I am,
• 48:15
  Speaker 14: because this is this is like a Houdini one aty act.
• 48:20
  Speaker 14: And of course he's not going to do anything. You know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 14: he's bragging the only almost half a million people immigrated
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: to the UK with the last year or so for
• 48:26
  Speaker 14: something to be proud of, even though he voted against
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: virtually every single bill to try and control that influx. Anyway,
• 48:32
  Speaker 14: so you know that none of the country buys it,
• 48:34
  Speaker 14: and it looks like much of Europe is going the
• 48:35
  Speaker 14: same way.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the Craik, it's always great to talk to you.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. Well that's it
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: for me. Coming up now is Sherry Marxon. Good Night,