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Train to Busan | Full Movie Review / Ep. 77 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is Teba K Rambles where a couple of
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  friends review Korean dramas, except we are officially out of
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  season 5. Season 5 has concluded.
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  We are not reviewing Korean dramas because we are officially
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  in spooky season. Woo.
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  So dad with me on this very first spooky season episode, Nas
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  from the Swoon Diaries podcast. How are you Nas?
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  I'm good. How are you, Jess?
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  Good. I'm so pumped to be here and
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  cover this first movie. This spooky season is going to
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  be a little different from the last one that we did in 2023.
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  We are going to be covering movies and it is solely because
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  your girl did have no time. I had no time to sit here and
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  watch another show in its entirety and cover it for spooky
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  season. And I thought it was just unfair
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  to not do anything at all for spooky season.
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  I think it's kind of nice to cover Korean cinema.
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  I go back to my roots. I did five years of movie
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  podcasting with always the critics.
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  I was like, let's do some K cinema, K horror, K thriller.
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  And today we are starting off our spooky season 2024 with
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  Train to Pusan. Yay.
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  So I, I did an APB on the Insta stories to see if any creators
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  were interested in jumping on and doing a guest spot for one
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  of these spooky season episodes because it was kind of coming
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  together really quickly and you were like, count me in for Train
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  to Pusan. I was like, yes, I'll do it.
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  And I was like, oh, OK, great. So like, I wrote your name down
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  and I, I penciled you in immediately.
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  It wasn't until a couple of days ago that you were like, OK,
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  pressing play on train to Pusan, excited to watch.
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  I don't know what to expect. And I was like, wait a minute,
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  wait a minute, wait a minute. You'd not watched Train to Pusan
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  before I, I completely had this all wrong.
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  I thought that you had already seen Train to Pusan.
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  Nope, Nope. You like sent me the message in
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  all caps like wait, you haven't watched it?
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  I was like, no, such a baby. I've never watched it before.
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  I like lost it. Like I told my sister I was
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  like, wait a minute, wait a minute, my friend as I watched
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  Train to Pusan, like this recording is going to be crazy.
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  And she was like really? Even I've watched Train to Pusan
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  and she loves watching anything with subtitles.
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  So I was like, I don't know what to expect here.
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  Like, is she going to love it? Is she going to hate it?
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  So this is going to be a very interesting start to the spooky
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  season. Really.
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  Really fun and interesting start if you can't hear the smile in
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  our voices. We are so happy and so excited
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  Thank you guys, love you guys. All right, so we are going to
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  get going on Train to Busan. IMDb synopsis reads.
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  While a zombie virus breaks out in South Korea, passengers
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  struggle to survive on the train from Seoul to Busan.
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  And that's it. That's that's all there is for
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  the line to be synopsis. It's very accurate though.
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  It's that's That's it. Literally it.
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  Literally it. This movie was released July
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  20th in 2016. It is summer blockbuster.
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  It's an hour and 58 minutes long, basically two hours.
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  It's directed by Yon Sangho, and this is actually their
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  director's first live action film.
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  Before this he was doing just animated features.
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  Oh wow. Yeah, and if you look at his
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  filmography since he's done some things you might recognize, like
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  Hellbound from 2021. That's a six episode K drama.
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  Jung, I can't remember how you pronounce that but I watched
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  this movie from 2023 as well. It's kind of like a sci-fi
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  dystopian future. And then Parasite the Grey from
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  this year 2024. It's also a six episode K drama.
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  He also wrote the screenplay for Train to Busan and his cool
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  screenwriter was Pak Jusuk Who I also wrote Hua Yi a Monster Boy
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  and Project Silence. I have always wanted to watch
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  Hua Yi a Monster Boy and when I looked up the cast for Project
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  Silence I was like Yep I totally want to watch Project Silence as
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  well. So two other movies that look
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  really good and really promising.
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  This movie stars, I don't know, some little known actor named
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  Kung Yu. He plays the main characters so
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  cool. We have Ma Dong Sok as well.
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  He plays Sang Hua. He is married to the character
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  Song Kyung, who's played by Jung Yumi.
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  We've got Kim SU Wan, we've got Che Wushi.
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  And this is, this is like it's shaping up, right?
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  Yes. Kim We Song plays like this
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  Ajishi character on the basically a villain guy on the
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  train so he plays Jinhi and then a couple of Halmoniz, Ye SU Jung
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  and Pak Myeongchen as well. This is a very well liked, well
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  regarded cast. They've been in K dramas left
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  and right, other Korean movies as well.
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  What did you think of this cast? I so going into the movie, I
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  literally only knew that Gong Yu was in it.
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  Oh really? But then I start the movie and
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  I'm like, whoa, I know all these people.
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  So I was like, oh, this is amazing.
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  Like especially Che Wu Chic. I did not know he was in the
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  movie. I didn't know Jung Yu Yu was in
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  this movie. Like I saw all these familiar
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  faces and I was like, Oh my gosh, like these are my people.
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  So I was really excited to see like how they were all the kind
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  of going to interact like throughout the film.
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  So do you like zombie movies is my first question.
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  No. I don't like zombie anything.
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  Like I like I said in the beginning, I'm such a baby.
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  Like I'm so scared of everything.
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  Like I don't usually watch like anything like horror zombies,
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  like nothing. But I was like, I really want to
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  watch Train to Busan because I feel like it's like a rite of
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  passage. Like you have to watch Train to
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  Busan. So I was like, Oh my gosh, this
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  will be a great opportunity to watch it, which is why I wanted
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  to. And I was like, I just got to
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  put my big girl pants on and get through the movies.
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  Yeah, this movie did incredibly well.
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  I think it made 90 on a budget of 10 billion won, which is
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  about $7.5 million. And I don't know if you anything
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  know anything about movies. This is nothing.
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  Yeah. This is a budget of nothing.
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  Yeah, that was way lower than what I was expecting when you
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  said it. I was like, wait, wow.
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  And it ended up grossing $92 million worldwide.
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  That's amazing. It is was a runaway hit.
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  I think it's in the top ten highest grossing films in South
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  Korea. Certified fresh on Rotten
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  Tomatoes, like 90 something percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
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  I can't remember what it is. That just means that 90
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  something percent of verified critics on Rotten Tomatoes gave
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  it a positive review. Amazing, yeah.
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  It is incredibly well regarded. You don't like zombie movies?
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  Had you seen any of, you know, forget the Korean zombie media?
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  Yeah, had you seen other zombie movies pre 2016?
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  No, like I've never watched any zombie movie.
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  I've never watched Walking Dead. Like I stayed far away from
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  those. Things.
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  Oh my God. OK OK, so I'm going to give you
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  like a really quick crash course in zombies really fast.
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  I'm talking like 2 minutes. OK so zombies have always
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  existed in folklore. The word zombie comes from the
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  West African word zombie, which means spirit of a dead person,
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  and the Haitian Creole word zombie, which means a dead
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  person that's been reanimated by magical means.
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  So. Yes.
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  So it has been around in folklore and different cultural
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  traditions, and then it's been around in books, literature and
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  in movies as well. Movies have been around for a
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  little over 100 years. Like films in general.
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  Right. But the modern zombie basically
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  started in 1968 with Night of the Living Dead by George A
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  Romero. George A Romero directed and
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  wrote Night of the Living Dead and went on to basically make a
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  career out of making zombie movies and doing sequels and
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  different things like that to Night of the Living Dead.
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  And Night of the Living Dead is black and white, even though
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  they had color film by that point.
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  That movie terrified people. People had never seen something
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  like that before. Yeah, I would imagine so.
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  Yeah, and George A Romero set up a lot of tropes that we see in
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  zombie movies, zombie media, and we see them subverted a lot in
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  zombie movies and zombie media. So train to Pusan knowing like a
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  quick primer on zombies. Yeah.
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  For George A Romero, the zombies were always slow.
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  They were slow moving. They ate brains.
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  They were mindless. Since then, the zombies have
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  evolved from different creators. They have become faster.
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  Some zombies speak and have a mind of their own.
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  Some zombies are capable of love and coming back to their human
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  selves. Some zombies are not created
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  from rising back up from the dead through supernatural means.
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  They are created from aliens, created from biotech disasters,
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  as in trying to push on, created from human intervention, created
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  from disease and plagues. And they don't just eat brains
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  anymore, they just love to eat human flesh.
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  I think that, how do I put it, Chante Pusan doesn't do anything
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  necessarily new that's outside of the genre, right?
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  But it's still amazing. Yeah, I agree.
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  So tell me your thoughts, like how did you feel watching this
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  movie coming without like you're blind, you don't know anything
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  about zombies at all. Right.
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  I going into it, I was just like bracing myself for like, OK,
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  like one of the zombies coming. And then when it started
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  happening, I was like, OK. And I have to say that I'm a
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  person that like I, I'm my tolerance for scary things would
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  think it's very low, like it's on the ground.
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  But like I watched this movie, yes, there were seeds and I was
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  like, oh, it's a little disturbing or a little like that
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  was that was interesting. But like I slept very well
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  afterwards. Like I was, I was fine.
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  But even though, like, the movie is very thrilling and you're
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  like, oh, my gosh, what's going to happen?
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  I just thought it was so well done because you're not only
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  seeing them like, you know, run away from the zombies and trying
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  to survive, but you're also seeing kind of human nature and
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  like, what people are willing to do to survive.
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  It's like some people take like this more selfish route.
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  Some people are like, we're selfless.
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  Some people started off selfish and then they become selfless by
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  the end. So it's, like, really
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  interesting to see, like, human behavior in that way as they
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  dealt with this complete catastrophe on the train.
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  So, yeah, I thought it was really, really fascinating.
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  And just like, so well done because it was so layered.
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  It just wasn't like a horror film.
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  There was so much more to it. And the acting was so good.
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  I know. And Gong, you looked amazing.
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  Yeah, he looked amazing in this movie.
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  Like the first scene. I was just like, wow.
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  Like this is 2016 Gong? He.
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  Looked so good. Yep, this is the same year that
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  Goblin came out. Yes, I want to say like 2016 was
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  a great year. I see.
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  It was just a general for movies, dramas, like things were
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  going really great, so. I'm really great.
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  I rewatched Train to Pusan and I was trying to pinpoint why I
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  love it so much and why it's so well received even though it's
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  not doing anything new necessarily in the genre.
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  And I think it has everything to do with sort of its Korean
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  sensibility and how it is focusing a lot on heart.
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  It has so much heart. Besides all the exciting and
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  captivating moments and thrilling action horror that the
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  movie has, it is compelling because of the characters that
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  you care so deeply for. Yes, this train crew, you're
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  like, none of these people can die.
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  Like I cannot stand it if any one of these people dies.
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  Yeah, you get so attached to them in such a short amount of
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  time, and when you see things start happening, you're just
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  like, oh, no, oh, no, oh, it's just another one and another
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  one. And it's devastating.
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  And I didn't think that I would be devastated in a movie like
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  this. I wasn't expecting it.
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  It is devastating. Oh my God, yeah.
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  I think that it leaves you emotionally drained, yes.
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  I think horror really works when it's being done to someone you
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  care about. And what's cool about some of
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  these characters is that besides some of them being straight,
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  like they're quote UN quote good characters, Konyo is not
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  necessarily a good character. Right, Right.
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  He's very morally Gray, yes. And he's not a good father,
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  really. Right.
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  You know he's working through it.
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  And sure, the protection aspect is almost like baseline.
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  Every parent should protect their child.
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  Right. But like, he's not doing the
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  day-to-day, being present, being an active listener, caring for
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  his child's emotional needs. And that is a huge part of this
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  very nuanced and interesting father daughter dynamic that you
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  see throughout the movie. That is the emotional touch
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  point. That's what makes you cry at the
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  end of the. Movie, yes, yes, exactly.
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  If you put that so well. But yeah, I totally agree.
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  So it's thrilling, it feels fresh, and it's almost like if
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  you're gonna do something, do it well.
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  Yes, exactly, exactly. And it does everything
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  particularly well. Yeah, it managed to just have so
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  much depth and I was like, I understand why this movie is so
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  popular and like well loved and well regarded, especially in the
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  realm of like zombie movies, because I feel like it's so much
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  more than that it. Is, and that's the thing, right,
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  is that I feel like a lot of Korean media that we are so
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  entrenched in and we're so familiar with, they are tapping
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  into emotions, relationships. And that's what this movie does
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  incredibly well, and it does it within two hours.
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  It packed so much in it packed. A lot in.
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  Yeah, yeah. Wow.
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  OK, there's. A lot of tenderness between the
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  characters. Yes.
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  I think this movie does well. A lot of zombie movies, most
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  zombie movies do this as well, is that they comment on things
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  through the lens of zombies or using zombies as a metaphor.
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  And in this case, the movie comments suddenly on class
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  warfare. You know, you have characters
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  who, and we're familiar with this too, like being so familiar
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  with Korean media, Korean entertainment, and getting a
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  huge dose of Korean culture through that.
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  The Korean hierarchy, how people with better jobs, better
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  positions, people who make more money get more say in how things
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  are are done, how important matters are handled.
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  People with less power are relegated to lesser positions,
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  are silenced in high stress situations, in situations where
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  maybe they're in our society. That's not necessarily how it
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  is. Like when you watch zombie media
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  over here, the class warfare thing doesn't come up very
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  often. Right, right.
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  Right, right. It's more like every person has
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  an equal say. Exactly.
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  When you watch Train to Pusan, it's very clear that certain
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  characters are given a lot bigger of a voice.
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  And so you have this like subtle class warfare going.
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  Many concepts double as opportunities to comment on the
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  government's inability to handle this situation.
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  Yeah, yeah. And what sucks is like four
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  years later, we go through a pandemic.
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  Right. Zombie movies and Contagion
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  movies, like the movie Contagion itself was like, that's very
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  triggering. Yeah, yeah.
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  Because it's handled kind of better in contagion than it was
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  in real life. Why couldn't we have done that?
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  When you see the broadcasts in Train to Busan of like, trust
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  your government, don't worry, there's nothing to panic, stay
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  in place, yada yada. And then it is juxtaposed
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  against what is actually happening outside.
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  That makes the government look terrible, right?
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  Doesn't it make the government look inadequate at handling this
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  situation? Like they're not going to take
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  care of you. No one is going to save you.
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  It's commenting a lot on things zombies themselves have always.
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  You know, ever since George A Romero put his hands on zombies,
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  they have been a vehicle for commenting on social issues like
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  racism. 1968, right? Like if you think of what was
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  happening in the States in 1968, you're immediately like, Oh
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  yeah, like zombies and, and people that are other zombies
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  can be seen as being. Dehumanizing because they're
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  just animalistic. They're just based on instinct.
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  They preys on our fears of the apocalypse, of everything that
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  we've built being abandoned and destroyed.
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  If preys on like indifference, where zombies have no feelings
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  whatsoever, no, no anxiety, no happiness, no No Fear.
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  They just, they just are. They're indifferent to your
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  screams of pain and terror. You know, mass contagion, which
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  again, our fears of mass contagion now, the way we look
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  at trains, Pusana and fears of mass contagion now in 2024 is
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  way different than how we saw it in 2016, I'm afraid.
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  Right, right. Because.
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  But yeah, living through a pandemic will give you a
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  different perspective for sure. Exactly.
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  But zombies, you know that you can imprint whatever you kind of
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  want onto them because they can represent a lot of things.
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  I really like the zombie sub genre of horror and they are
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  still terrifying to me. I'm a I'm a huge fan of zombie
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  movies and media. I have not watched everything.
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  There is no way that I can watch everything.
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  There is so many things even like B&C level movies that like
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  I've don't even know. I don't know what I don't know,
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  but there's a lot of media out there that I have watched and I
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  eat it up every time it's. Not eating up every time.
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  But yeah, I really appreciate Train to Pusan for what it does,
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  the cast that it assembled, the way that it looks, the
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  cinematography of it. I think it's done incredibly
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  well. So I'm glad that you enjoyed it
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  and that you were able to sleep well afterwards.
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  Yes, I was. I got through it and I yeah, it
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  was, it was a great experience. I'm really proud of myself.
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  Are you willing to watch other zombie movies out of Korea?
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  Movies I I don't know, I have to take it one step at a time.
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  I think I would probably maybe start with a show like I really
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  want to watch, like Happiness or something like that.
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  Like I want to try that, OK or like Kingdom and see if I can
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  like get through it. OK, I'd watch Happy.
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  OK, so let's take this slow. I would recommend for you.
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  I would recommend Happiness first, OK?
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  It will scare you. Yeah.
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  But it does have this central friends to lovers couple.
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  Yeah, that is very strong. I love Han Hyo juice.
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  She's like my girl crush forever.
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  And another member of the Luga squad in it.
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  Pakyung Sheikh. Yes, Pakyung Sheikh.
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  It's very good. I love that show.
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  Kingdom is going to scare the shit out of you.
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  OK, so I won't go. I won't.
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  Watch that. Yeah, just being honest.
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  I don't know if you can handle Cape Town.
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  You said just being honest. It's amazing.
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  It is amazing. Basically prestige television.
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  Wow. Highly recommend Kingdom, but
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  it's going to scare the shit out of you if you if you got through
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  change to Brusan and you're kind of like you're kind of like
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  this, like shaking a little bit. Still, yeah, I wouldn't go with.
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  Kingdom. OK, so no Kingdom.
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  Or all of us are dead. All of us are dead.
• 23:58
  It's very good, but I think it might be also a little more high
• 24:02
  stress than happiness. It's less stress than Kingdom
• 24:07
  maybe. Somewhere in the middle.
• 24:09
  Somewhere in the middle more more on the side of Kingdom,
• 24:13
  but. Yeah, OK.
• 24:15
  That's a good crash course. I'll start with happiness.
• 24:18
  You know, if you wanna watch a zombie movie, a Korean zombie
• 24:22
  movie, I would actually recommend The Odd Family AKA
• 24:26
  Zombie for Zombie for sale. It's a horror comedy.
• 24:31
  OK. So it's not like it's not
• 24:33
  leading into the terror aspect of things too much.
• 24:36
  Oh, no. It's scary, but it's not gonna.
• 24:38
  It's funny. Like, have you seen maybe Shawn
• 24:41
  of the Dead? Have you seen?
• 24:42
  I haven't seen Shawn of the Dead.
• 24:44
  So horror comedy might be a good Ave. for you to dip your toes
• 24:49
  into like that aesthetic. You're going to get those scary
• 24:52
  looking zombies, but it's funny. It's a dark comedy.
• 24:56
  OK, OK. I think I could stomach.
• 24:58
  That and then when you the next level would probably be like
• 25:03
  hashtag alive with UI in who's like a trapped gamer, like the
• 25:09
  apocalypse, those zombie apocalypse happens and he's in
• 25:11
  his apartment just gaming. Oh wow, he's.
• 25:14
  Like a He's almost like a recluse and he can't leave now.
• 25:18
  He can't leave his apartment. Yikes.
• 25:21
  It's good. It's really good.
• 25:22
  That's a really good one. I think after that you can maybe
• 25:26
  watch Rampant, which is historical with Hilben.
• 25:30
  OK, he's fighting zombies in like the Jolson era.
• 25:34
  I can't remember what era it is. Oh wow, the.
• 25:36
  Jolson era. No, it's amazing.
• 25:38
  It's really good. The last one.
• 25:40
  I don't think you'll ever get to this level.
• 25:43
  It's the whaling. That sounds terrifying.
• 25:46
  Like I feel like any horror movie that starts with the
• 25:49
  anything, I feel like it's always just like, no thank you.
• 25:53
  OK, so I watched the whaling several months ago, I think
• 25:56
  towards the beginning of the year.
• 25:58
  And I'll tell you something about myself.
• 26:01
  I get really brave, like 1-2 in the morning and I thought the.
• 26:08
  Middle of the night too. Middle of the night I thought
• 26:12
  I'm going to finally watch the whaling, which I heard is one of
• 26:15
  the best scary thriller horror movies out of Korea.
• 26:21
  And I start, I press play on the whaling and I was because I
• 26:31
  don't like watching things that are almost like spiritual in
• 26:35
  nature. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:37
  And the ending of the whaling, it's like zombies but make a
• 26:43
  spiritual slash ghosty and it was very disturbing.
• 26:49
  It is a disturbing movie. Yes, and that's what I don't
• 26:54
  like about it. Like, just things that I find,
• 26:56
  yeah, disturbing, like. Disturbing like my spirit.
• 26:59
  Yeah, you know what I'm saying? There's a difference, yeah.
• 27:01
  Like I couldn't sleep well the next couple of nights.
• 27:04
  I was very distraught after watching the whaling.
• 27:09
  And I mean, if that's your cup of tea, definitely watch the
• 27:11
  whaling. I thought it was excellent.
• 27:13
  Like from a technical aspect, it's written amazing.
• 27:16
  The acting was excellent. It's so atmospheric and all
• 27:20
  these things. But then the actual experience
• 27:24
  of watching it, I was like, I can't do that two times in a
• 27:27
  row. And I put I put the whaling on
• 27:30
  the pole, the Patreon pole of what I should cover for the
• 27:34
  spooky season this year. And I was like, I hope to God
• 27:38
  nobody chooses it. I think I got like a few votes
• 27:40
  on it, but nowhere near as many as like Train to Pusad and like
• 27:44
  some of these other ones. And I said thank God because
• 27:47
  what the hell was I thinking? Like putting that on there and
• 27:51
  saying I was going to watch it again and cover it because the
• 27:55
  first time nearly took me clean out.
• 27:56
  Yeah, and you watch in the middle of the night.
• 27:58
  And I watch in the middle of the night like, yeah, it was bad.
• 28:02
  It's one thing for things to be like visually scary, but like
• 28:06
  when stuff is like disturbing to the point you feel like
• 28:08
  unsettled and just like ooh, like it's I hate that feeling,
• 28:12
  which is why I don't do scary things.
• 28:14
  So I don't like to be disturbed, but trans to Busan wasn't
• 28:17
  disturbing to me. Yes, yes.
• 28:19
  So with that being said, I'll say some fun facts before we
• 28:24
  give our scores and go into the spoiler section to talk a little
• 28:28
  bit more at length about specifically what happens in the
• 28:32
  movie and some of our favorite parts and sequences.
• 28:35
  So yes, fun facts, Soul Station, I don't know if you've heard
• 28:39
  this of this movie, Soul Station is an animated feature length
• 28:43
  zombie movie that serves as a prequel to the live action
• 28:46
  horror hit Train to Pusan. So the director, as I said, has
• 28:51
  a history of doing animated feature length films.
• 28:54
  And so he did Soul Station basically almost exactly at the
• 28:58
  same time as Train to Pusan, and it serves as a prequel.
• 29:01
  So if you want to, you can watch Soul Station.
• 29:04
  It's animated. Then watch Train to Busan.
• 29:07
  Then watch Peninsula from 2020, which is the sequel to Train to
• 29:13
  Busan. It takes place four years after
• 29:15
  the events of Train to Busan. And that one is like a heist
• 29:18
  movie. Yeah, I watched Peninsula and it
• 29:25
  was one of the 1st movies I watched back in theaters during
• 29:28
  the pandemic. OK, it's OK, it's fine.
• 29:32
  It does. It just doesn't have the heart
• 29:35
  of the original movie, which is I think a lot of people were
• 29:39
  expecting that same feeling. But you don't get it.
• 29:43
  With Peninsula, it's a lot more standard.
• 29:46
  Whatever. Sohi, who plays Shanee, is an ex
• 29:50
  member of the famous K pop group Wonder Girls.
• 29:53
  So when she pops up on screen, the Korean audience is like, Oh
• 29:57
  my God, it's a Wonder Girl. It's a wonderful.
• 30:01
  But even when she came on the screen, I was just like, she's
• 30:02
  deaf. She has to be like in some sort
• 30:04
  of group or something. Like I just knew it.
• 30:06
  Yeah. You just know sometimes that
• 30:07
  like the way that they they allow the character to enter the
• 30:10
  scene that they were. There's somebody that you should
• 30:13
  know. Yeah, this is not the first
• 30:17
  Zombies on a Train film. Horror Express from 1972,
• 30:20
  tackled a similar subject, albeit less frenetically.
• 30:24
  Is what IMDb said. This is the last thing I'll say.
• 30:28
  There is somewhere out there an American remake of Train to
• 30:31
  Busan called The Last Train to New York was supposed to release
• 30:37
  in 2023. We are still waiting.
• 30:40
  Not sure anyone is really expecting much from that.
• 30:42
  Perhaps it'll never get a release date.
• 30:45
  I don't know if that's going to be any good at all.
• 30:49
  I don't know if it's going to have the same like impact, I
• 30:53
  don't know. Not everything used to be
• 30:54
  remade. Yeah, I don't have high hopes
• 30:56
  for for that at all. At all.
• 30:59
  What would you give Chain to Pusan out of five Soulja?
• 31:03
  Bottles I give a 5 out of five. I really enjoyed it.
• 31:07
  It's I think it's excellent like again, it's not my usual choice
• 31:12
  of of you know, film, but it is very well executed, very well
• 31:17
  acted. The story is solid everything
• 31:19
  made sense. It has a lot of heart to to it
• 31:22
  and over a short amount of time you really do fall in love with
• 31:25
  these characters and you're just seeing human nature just play
• 31:28
  itself out. And I thought it was fascinating
• 31:31
  and very well done. I have no complaints.
• 31:34
  It was great. I agree completely.
• 31:37
  I would give this maybe 4 1/2 out of five Soulja bottles just
• 31:43
  to be a little fresh with it. Just to be a little.
• 31:47
  Fresh, you know, just to be different.
• 31:50
  But I love this movie. I watch, I rewatch it at least
• 31:55
  once a year, especially during this season.
• 31:58
  It still holds up. It's great.
• 32:00
  It's very well done. It's very well done.
• 32:02
  I love that you watch it once a year.
• 32:04
  I do, I basically watch it once a year.
• 32:06
  I don't know why I don't have it on Blu-ray, but I.
• 32:08
  Definitely you should. At this point you should.
• 32:10
  I'm a I'm a physical media person.
• 32:12
  So anyway, we are going to talk more about Trent Pusan right
• 32:17
  after this greatest trick. Houston, we have a problem.
• 32:22
  I am the father. I see dead people, the devil.
• 32:26
  Ever. Pulled.
• 32:27
  Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
• 32:30
  Was convincing the world. You.
• 32:32
  Can't handle the truth? He didn't.
• 32:34
  Exist now what's in the box? All right, we're on the other
• 32:40
  side of spoilers. You have just heard the old
• 32:43
  Always the Critics spoiler bumper.
• 32:45
  I wanted to bring it back for the spooky season.
• 32:48
  It is one of my favorite things that we used to have for the
• 32:51
  Always the Critic movie podcast. And I thought it was really
• 32:54
  fitting because it's kind of like dark and seedy.
• 32:57
  And I don't know, it gets a little bit of Hans Zimmer in
• 33:00
  there. I wanted to start at the very
• 33:02
  beginning because we get this shot of like this guy running
• 33:07
  over a deer and the deer just like up and walks away like.
• 33:12
  The deer, I was like, oh Yikes. Oh Yikes.
• 33:16
  But we get this idea already that there is a leak in the
• 33:21
  biotech district. This is a man made disease, a
• 33:26
  man made pandemic. Kong Yu is a fund manager and he
• 33:33
  tells his subordinate to, like, sell all related stock,
• 33:37
  presumably of this biotech company.
• 33:41
  He's looking at headlines of mysterious fish deaths and Chin
• 33:44
  Yang reservoir. And it's all ends up being
• 33:48
  connected, like he has a very small hand in this zombie
• 33:54
  outbreak. How did you feel about that
• 33:57
  small aspect or depending on how you look at it, large aspect of
• 34:01
  the movie that he is to blame? Yeah, I was like, oh, well, that
• 34:05
  complicates things. Sounds like, Yikes.
• 34:08
  That's not good because that's a lot of, you know, I guess, like
• 34:13
  harm and devastation that you're responsible for.
• 34:15
  Like you've literally caused this countrywide issue.
• 34:19
  Yeah, on top of this, he's a bad dad because he comes, he's
• 34:23
  fighting with his ex-wife over the phone.
• 34:26
  He doesn't want to send her to Pusan for her birthday.
• 34:29
  He doesn't have a present picked out already for her birthday,
• 34:32
  which is the next day. And he ends up just getting he's
• 34:35
  asking like his assistant, hey, what do kids like these days?
• 34:39
  Like he does not know his child. He gets her a Wii gaming console
• 34:44
  and the moment when she looks up and there's already they cut 2
• 34:49
  and there's already a Wii gaming console in her room and she just
• 34:55
  says quietly like for children's day, like you got me the.
• 34:59
  Yeah. Devastating.
• 35:02
  I know. Devastating.
• 35:03
  Like the way that they both looked up slowly and the camera
• 35:06
  just panned, I was like, this is such a brilliant scene.
• 35:09
  It's just like. Exactly.
• 35:12
  It's bad that she doesn't want anything else for her birthday,
• 35:16
  she just wants to see her mom and Pusan.
• 35:18
  She doesn't want to bother Kong you since he's busy insisting
• 35:22
  that she can just take the train by herself.
• 35:25
  Can you imagine this little girl taking the train by herself
• 35:29
  while the zombie outbreak is happening?
• 35:32
  Like she would have just gone in the 1st.
• 35:34
  Place. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:36
  Disastrous. I was like, why was that even an
• 35:38
  option? I know he doesn't attend her
• 35:41
  recital. His mother had recorded it on on
• 35:45
  this old like camcorder. And he watches her do this song
• 35:51
  and she doesn't finish singing this song.
• 35:54
  And later in the morning, he's taking her to the train to go
• 35:58
  visit her mom. He's going to do it despite
• 36:01
  being super busy at work. And he tells her, like, whatever
• 36:05
  you do, you must finish what you start trying to instill these
• 36:08
  like little lessons without having He's trying to be like
• 36:12
  finish what you start but not understanding like where, why
• 36:15
  she didn't finish exactly. Exactly.
• 36:19
  Would you find out later why she didn't finish?
• 36:24
  Anyway, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.
• 36:27
  What did you think of some of these some of these beats?
• 36:30
  Because I just think it's kind of masterful how they set up the
• 36:33
  story and how they set up the characters and how in the first
• 36:37
  act you like meet all of the players, you meet all of the
• 36:40
  train people, they board the train.
• 36:43
  Zombie one enters the train and you meet Madung Sook and his
• 36:47
  pregnant wife and all all these people.
• 36:50
  You see the the baseball team and Chaoshik and like the girl,
• 36:54
  the the Wonder Girl coming on the train and like all of this
• 36:58
  stuff. And you're like, you're
• 37:00
  instantly because people are just living their lives.
• 37:02
  Yeah, yeah. It was just so interesting
• 37:05
  because you're like, everybody's coming from like, different
• 37:07
  walks of life and like everyone's just minding their
• 37:09
  business. Like, you know, he's taking his
• 37:11
  daughter to go see his mom. Like the baseball team was like
• 37:14
  coming from a game or going to a game.
• 37:16
  And like, you know, we have like, the businessmen and we
• 37:18
  have the homies and we have the husband and wife and like, you
• 37:22
  know, and the homeless man and like, everyone's just trying to
• 37:25
  get by and just trying to go about their day.
• 37:27
  And then, like, the first zombie gets on and I'm like, oh, no,
• 37:30
  this girl. Because it was, I think it was,
• 37:32
  yeah, it was a girl. And she was like in pain and she
• 37:35
  was struggling. And I'm like, oh, no, oh, no.
• 37:37
  And like, no one knows that she slipped off the train.
• 37:40
  And then, like, all hell breaks loose.
• 37:42
  And it was just just the way that it was filmed, just like
• 37:46
  how easily it spread like wildfire in that first wave.
• 37:49
  Like from that first bite, from that first girl that was
• 37:52
  infected, I was just like, oh, it just happened so fast.
• 37:57
  It just, it progressed so fast. Yeah.
• 37:59
  And that was probably like the scariest part part of the movie
• 38:02
  for me because it was just kind of like, ill like, you know,
• 38:06
  everyone's biting each other and people are like rising on the
• 38:09
  ground and their bodies are contorting.
• 38:11
  And I'm like, ah, but it wasn't that bad after after that.
• 38:17
  But it was like pure chaos. And you're just seeing all these
• 38:20
  people just kind of look around and they're like freaking out.
• 38:23
  And I'm thinking, what would I do if I was like on a train,
• 38:26
  like minding my business? Yeah.
• 38:28
  And all of a sudden, I'm seeing these zombies just like emerge
• 38:31
  out of nowhere. It's like, what do you, what do
• 38:33
  you do? I know.
• 38:34
  Yeah. And you could feel the terror
• 38:36
  from like, the passengers or just what the heck is going on?
• 38:39
  Like, yeah, it was a it was a really great start to the movie.
• 38:43
  Yeah, it's so energetic and there's so much movement in
• 38:47
  there and the way that they shoot it is just impressive.
• 38:51
  I think because it's the bulk of the movie is in a confined
• 38:56
  space. You're on a moving locomotive
• 38:59
  and I adore that they set it on a train, on a high speed train.
• 39:05
  There's something about trains that I just love.
• 39:08
  Like, that to me is trains are very romantic to me.
• 39:12
  They're from a bygone era. I feel like people are more
• 39:16
  comfortable. How do I put this?
• 39:19
  Trains are some of the oldest forms of transportation that we
• 39:22
  have. They're very reliable.
• 39:25
  Yeah. There's something also, like,
• 39:27
  very Hitchcockian about it. Like, I don't know if you've
• 39:30
  watched some Hitchcock movies, but like a lot of Hitchcock
• 39:33
  movies and especially early Hitchcock, he would set his
• 39:36
  stuff on a train. There would always be a train in
• 39:38
  the movie. The people would get on a train
• 39:40
  or something would happen on a train.
• 39:43
  And I love that. It's very like the lady vanishes
• 39:47
  on a train and what are they? What are you going to do about
• 39:49
  it? Because you have nowhere to go,
• 39:52
  right? I just think it is.
• 39:55
  It gives it such momentum automatically that.
• 40:00
  They're stuck on the train with zombies.
• 40:02
  Yeah. And it like raises the stakes as
• 40:04
  well because they're like, they're literally just stuck
• 40:06
  there. Yeah.
• 40:07
  And so there's nowhere for them to go, and they just have to
• 40:09
  fight their hardest to survive. So yeah, I loved the fact that
• 40:13
  because I was wondering when I started the movie, I was like, I
• 40:15
  think they're really going to be on the train, like the whole
• 40:16
  time. Like, how is this going to go?
• 40:18
  I think they did it so, so well because you could feel like the
• 40:21
  fear or the stress, the, you know, the fact that they're
• 40:24
  confined, you feel all of that. Yeah.
• 40:26
  As you're watching it. So yeah, it was a great choice.
• 40:29
  It's a great choice, the concept that you're even though you're
• 40:33
  in a confined space and you wanna get off, you can't get off
• 40:36
  exactly because nowhere is safe. The stations are not safe.
• 40:40
  You can't let more zombies on. You can't let infected people
• 40:43
  get on. Yeah, Yeah, I adored that.
• 40:46
  I thought that was part of the brilliance of the movie was that
• 40:48
  they just set the whole thing, most of it on the train.
• 40:52
  And then they had different types of shots.
• 40:53
  In the movie, they strap a camera in front of a zombie and
• 40:57
  like have the camera facing the zombie and have this like awful
• 41:00
  perspective of looking straight at the zombie as it's yes, yes,
• 41:04
  moving about and stuff. And.
• 41:06
  Yeah. You haven't watched a lot of
• 41:08
  zombie stuff, but the fact that the zombies are moving very
• 41:12
  fast, that goes against like the original 1968 Georgia Romero
• 41:17
  trope of them moving very slow. Yeah.
• 41:19
  But that's what I thought too, was interesting because I did
• 41:22
  notice in this movie that they were really fast.
• 41:24
  Yeah. Because like my sister, she
• 41:26
  loves The Walking Dead. At least she loved it until
• 41:29
  apparently the show got bad. But.
• 41:31
  OK so I stopped watching The Walking Dead when they killed
• 41:34
  Glenn. Yeah, that's when she stopped
• 41:36
  watching too. Yeah.
• 41:36
  So yeah, yeah. And she and she was saying how
• 41:40
  slow they are. So she was saying like, it's
• 41:42
  very easy to like run away from them.
• 41:43
  True. You know, you it's like, yes,
• 41:45
  they're scary, but like you can easily kind of manipulate them
• 41:47
  because they're so slow. So in this one, it was really
• 41:50
  interesting to see like they would, they could Sprint.
• 41:53
  They are. Sprinting, yeah.
• 41:56
  And the speed at which they turn as well is something else.
• 42:01
  Like some zombie movies. It takes a few hours or whatever
• 42:05
  for it to happen. I think that this isn't new
• 42:09
  though. Like this isn't something that
• 42:10
  Transpo sound like just came up with.
• 42:12
  We had already seen like fast zombies before in I believe we'd
• 42:17
  already seen it in World War Z, But the first person to do fast
• 42:21
  zombies I think was Dawn of the Dead from 2004.
• 42:26
  So that's a remake of a George A Romero, Dawn of the Dead and
• 42:32
  Zack Snyder, like the Zack Snyder directed that one and he
• 42:37
  was like, I'm going to make my zombies fast.
• 42:39
  So now everyone was like, Oh my God, we got to make our zombies
• 42:43
  fast because otherwise it makes no sense.
• 42:45
  So 2004, the fast zombies hit World War Z.
• 42:50
  You had the quick turn. You had mere seconds before
• 42:55
  somebody who was infected turned into a zombie.
• 42:59
  I love the look of the zombies in this movie as well.
• 43:01
  Like they kind of gave like a film.
• 43:03
  They put a film over their eyes as well, so look like they kind
• 43:07
  of had cataracts all of a sudden.
• 43:10
  I love that they would pile on top of each other.
• 43:12
  That's something that we've seen before as well.
• 43:15
  But when they're piling on top of each other and mass, I feel
• 43:17
  like that always works. It's always terrifying.
• 43:19
  It's so. Terrifying.
• 43:20
  Yeah. The violence of their movements.
• 43:23
  You had like contortionist moves and stuff like that.
• 43:27
  That's all terrifying. The sound design of them and the
• 43:32
  crackling noises and the different thing.
• 43:35
  Like you're just like, Oh my God, it is awful, terrible.
• 43:39
  It's terrible, Terrible exactly. But I thought it was all really
• 43:46
  well done. Like if you're gonna do the same
• 43:47
  thing as other people, like, do it well.
• 43:48
  And they did it well. Right.
• 43:50
  They did. They did a great job.
• 43:52
  It wasn't like it didn't feel, you know how sometimes you can
• 43:54
  watch something scary and you're like, OK, like it just feels
• 43:57
  very campy and just over the top.
• 43:59
  It was genuinely oh, like I feel like I'm on this train.
• 44:02
  Like it just felt very real. It felt very real.
• 44:05
  I think they did a good job with that.
• 44:07
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 44:08
  So you like that first outbreak where it goes, it just runs
• 44:12
  through the trains? Yes, yes.
• 44:14
  Because I feel like I set up the story just like, OK, now we're
• 44:17
  getting started. And it didn't take too long.
• 44:19
  I was like, OK, all right, now things are happening.
• 44:23
  The homeless man they give you like a first fake out.
• 44:27
  Yes. Where the first zombie one
• 44:30
  boards the train and she goes into a bathroom.
• 44:33
  The Ajashi businessman, first of all, fuck that guy.
• 44:37
  But anyway, he was so awful, that guy.
• 44:41
  The stuff that he does later in the movie, the first thing that
• 44:45
  he does is he notices that someone has boarded the train,
• 44:49
  and you think he's talking about Zombie One?
• 44:52
  Yeah. He pulls aside one of the
• 44:54
  attendants and he's like, somebody's on this train, you
• 44:57
  got to get him out, yadda yadda, and he's snitching.
• 45:00
  They go to the bathroom. They open the bathroom.
• 45:02
  You think it's zombie one? It's not.
• 45:04
  It's the homeless guy. Right.
• 45:06
  Who's traumatized saying over and over, like everyone's dead.
• 45:10
  Everyone's dead and shaking and like all this stuff completely,
• 45:13
  completely out of it. This asshole says to the little
• 45:18
  girl who's the best little girl in in, Oh my God, like ever.
• 45:22
  I love her. She's perfect.
• 45:25
  She was amazing in this role. She did a great job.
• 45:27
  This guy says, hey, kid, if you don't study in school, you'll
• 45:31
  end up like him. So disgusting.
• 45:33
  And she turns to him and says, my mom says whoever says that is
• 45:37
  a bad person, which we know how much Korean society values
• 45:43
  education and getting ahead, doing well in school and all
• 45:49
  this stuff. The fact that her mom is even
• 45:52
  like, whoever's saying all this stuff, this cliche nonsense
• 45:58
  about like, you better do well in school or else you're going
• 46:01
  to be homeless or else you're going to do that.
• 46:03
  You're going to be on the streets or whatever.
• 46:06
  They're a bad person. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:08
  So I feel like the mom is already in the audience's good
• 46:11
  graces even though we never see her in the movie.
• 46:13
  Even though we never meet her, never meet her, we get a glimpse
• 46:16
  of like the type of person that she is.
• 46:17
  Like we don't do that class of stuff.
• 46:19
  We don't think we're better than other people.
• 46:21
  We don't do that. Exactly, he says.
• 46:24
  She must have flunked. What a terrible man.
• 46:26
  Automatically you're like fuck that guy, I hope he dies.
• 46:30
  Terrible man. Oh God Lee he's terrible.
• 46:35
  But Kong You is not that far behind because when shit starts
• 46:39
  to go down, he's like shutting doors in people's face.
• 46:43
  He shuts the door on Madong Sock's face, on his pregnant
• 46:47
  wife. And later on, he tells his
• 46:50
  daughter, you got to look out only for yourself in desperate
• 46:53
  times like these because she gave up her seat for one of the
• 46:55
  homonies. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:57
  The little girl tells him at one point you only care about
• 47:01
  yourself. That's why Mommy left.
• 47:03
  Yeah. She said what she said.
• 47:05
  And I feel like the daughter taught him to become more
• 47:08
  selfless. And so throughout the movie, you
• 47:11
  see him gradually change and he starts helping people.
• 47:14
  He starts putting other people before himself.
• 47:16
  And it wasn't before hearing that influence from his daughter
• 47:19
  that he was like, oh, like, I need to kind of rethink how I'm
• 47:21
  going about this. She definitely.
• 47:23
  Because she doesn't think I'm a good person.
• 47:26
  I also really liked that when after Kong you close the door,
• 47:30
  I'm I don't suck. And he was just like, oh, so I
• 47:33
  think you owe me an apology. Yeah, you just you tried to slam
• 47:35
  the door and me and my wifes face.
• 47:37
  You need to apologize to me like because I was like, I'm just
• 47:40
  gonna sweep that under the rug. Yeah, I know You're like, leave
• 47:44
  us for dead like. What?
• 47:47
  What the fuck was that like? Yeah, Hollinson calls him on his
• 47:49
  shit. Yes, I'd really love that, that
• 47:52
  he was like, yeah, no, we're not gonna just pretend that didn't
• 47:54
  happen. Yeah.
• 47:57
  And they start talking shit about Kong you when he walks
• 47:59
  away. At some point, I think he's on
• 48:01
  the phone and they're like, hey, is that your dad?
• 48:03
  Like your blood relation? Because blood relations are
• 48:06
  important in Korea. And the little girl says, yes,
• 48:09
  that's my dad. And he says, oh, sorry about it.
• 48:13
  What does he do for a living? She goes, oh, he's a fun
• 48:16
  manager. And he says, oh, so he's a
• 48:18
  Leech. He's an asshole.
• 48:21
  Like, you're supposed to think that Kung Yu's character is an
• 48:25
  asshole, right? And it's pretty great that they
• 48:27
  had Kun Yu kind of playing against type.
• 48:32
  Yes, yes, absolutely. Because I've I've never seen him
• 48:35
  like unlikable before. So it was.
• 48:38
  Very interesting. Did it?
• 48:39
  Very interesting. Yeah, exactly.
• 48:41
  So they get into Tejon Station, This is the one that's like
• 48:45
  militarized, and they're going to go into quarantine.
• 48:48
  That moment when they're going down the escalator.
• 48:52
  This state, the staging and the editing of this scene.
• 48:56
  Amazing. 10 out of 10 it. Was so good.
• 48:59
  They go down the escalator and models like everything is.
• 49:02
  It's eerily quiet. There's no soldiers anywhere,
• 49:06
  there's no living people around and everyone's like, what is
• 49:10
  going on? Where is everybody?
• 49:11
  It should be a working train station bustling with people.
• 49:15
  At the very least. There's nobody and you're
• 49:18
  already on pins and needles. You're like, what the fuck's
• 49:20
  going to? Happen and literally.
• 49:23
  On. Edge.
• 49:23
  You're on edge. But everything's working like
• 49:26
  there's electricity, so they're going down the escalator and
• 49:29
  there is a wall of a zombie soldiers.
• 49:34
  Oh my. God, Oh my God, the moment.
• 49:37
  My heart still sinks when I see that moment.
• 49:39
  Oh my gosh. I think it's brilliant.
• 49:43
  And then at the same time, Kong Yu is upstairs with a homeless
• 49:47
  man. They've run into a soldier who's
• 49:49
  like, help me. Like I guess the last dude
• 49:51
  that's made it out and he gets taken down by a zombie and it's
• 49:56
  coming at them from all sides and this whole escape back onto
• 50:01
  the train. How they made it through like
• 50:03
  that whole like scene with like the struggle and the fighting
• 50:05
  and just how they were able to make it back to the train.
• 50:07
  It was like you're literally on the edge of your seat and like.
• 50:12
  Yeah, Oh. My gosh, I was like, are they
• 50:13
  going to make it through? I was like, we're going to lose
• 50:15
  like half the cast in this. Field.
• 50:18
  Somehow they made it through. It's great.
• 50:21
  And then the but the youth, they get separated.
• 50:23
  So Kong Yu get separated from his daughter.
• 50:26
  The harmonies get separated as well.
• 50:29
  Yes, yes. And Madung so get separated from
• 50:32
  his wife. Here is my favorite part of the
• 50:35
  whole movie is when our Three Musketeers, it's Kong, Yu,
• 50:41
  Madongsuk and Chebushik have to get from car 9 to car 13 to save
• 50:50
  Madongsuk's pregnant wife and Kung Yu's daughter from the
• 50:54
  zombies trying to get into because they're trapped in the
• 50:56
  bathroom. Yes, and all that's between them
• 50:59
  and the zombies is the little accordion door.
• 51:01
  Oh yes. My God I die.
• 51:03
  First of all when the wife was like get your ass over here and
• 51:06
  like click hangs up the phone. I was like, if I am not that
• 51:11
  bitch, I would be like get your ass over here and then back to
• 51:14
  the task at hand. Oh my gosh, it was so good.
• 51:19
  That whole you're talking about the scene when they were in the
• 51:21
  train and they're basically trying to signal the zombies to
• 51:24
  all shift one way so they can like get through and they're
• 51:26
  like crawling. All of this to get to them.
• 51:30
  Incredible it was. Unassailable.
• 51:33
  It is incredible. It was so good, just like the
• 51:37
  teamwork. And then also like this is when
• 51:40
  I start to get that found family feeling from the movie as well.
• 51:44
  Yes. And like these, like this little
• 51:45
  group of people, like they're really bonded now and they're
• 51:48
  just, they're genuinely trying to help each other, but they're
• 51:51
  like a little traumatized family now.
• 51:54
  They've got to make it through. Yes, but yeah, no.
• 51:57
  Oh my gosh, amazing. That's the whole sequence of
• 51:59
  scenes, that whole yeah time that they're trying to make it
• 52:01
  to the yeah, to everybody else. Incredible.
• 52:04
  And then I also loved how they were like, using their brains
• 52:07
  and like, strategy. They're like, OK, what do we
• 52:08
  know about the zombie? How can we get them to shift,
• 52:11
  you know, and like, learning how to maneuver in a way that, like,
• 52:14
  kept them safe. I was like, brilliant.
• 52:16
  So good. And you get like some more
• 52:19
  expansion of what the zombies do and don't do.
• 52:22
  We had already established like if they don't see you, they're
• 52:25
  based their attack is based on sight basically, right, Right.
• 52:29
  They're like a freaking T Rex. So if they don't see you, they
• 52:33
  won't attack. They were already using that to
• 52:35
  their advantage. But then the moment when they're
• 52:37
  plunged Into Darkness with the tunnel, oh, oh, the first
• 52:42
  tunnel. Incredible.
• 52:43
  Because you think they're on the ropes, right?
• 52:44
  Like Taylor Chic is frozen in fear because they're fighting
• 52:50
  the zombified baseball team and he can't do those are his
• 52:54
  friends. And he is just like so
• 52:57
  emotional. He's trying to psych himself
• 52:59
  out. Kong you is about to be go down
• 53:01
  for the count. Ma Dung Silk is also up against
• 53:03
  the wall and it's not looking good like for this trio like
• 53:07
  they could die and then all of a sudden boom, they go through a
• 53:10
  tunnel. The zombies like they start
• 53:13
  right, right. You know what I'm saying?
• 53:14
  Oh my God, it's, it's remarkable.
• 53:18
  Incredible. I love it, so well done.
• 53:20
  Yeah, so well done. They make it so they do, they
• 53:23
  get pick up the wife, they pick up the homeless guy, they pick
• 53:28
  up the Harmony and the daughter, and then they make it all the
• 53:32
  way to car 15, which is where the rest of the survivors are.
• 53:35
  And this is when villain Ajashi this.
• 53:39
  Guy. This guy had rallied those
• 53:44
  people into sealing the door and here is like this social
• 53:48
  experiment pressure cooker to situation that you were
• 53:52
  referring to in the non spoiler section.
• 53:55
  This would totally happen in real life, that this more
• 53:58
  powerful, commanding presence would completely prey on the
• 54:03
  fear of everybody else in the room.
• 54:06
  Yeah. And get them to do what he
• 54:08
  wants. It was terrible.
• 54:09
  He's just like, they're all infected.
• 54:11
  We can't let them in. I'm like, clearly they they're
• 54:14
  not. Don't do that.
• 54:15
  I was like, they just made it through these trains in one
• 54:18
  piece and then now this guy is like, no, don't let them in.
• 54:22
  He was the worst. Yeah, and I think coming from
• 54:26
  watching what we watch all the time, the dynamic between the
• 54:30
  villain Ajashi and the guy in the blue jacket who worked for
• 54:35
  the train line, that attendant, their relationship makes a ton
• 54:40
  of sense. Why is that guy doing whatever
• 54:44
  the villain Ajashi tells him to do?
• 54:46
  Why is he following his orders? There's this whole like
• 54:50
  hierarchy here that maybe the Western audience doesn't get
• 54:54
  right, who's maybe not used to This rich asshole has a
• 54:58
  definitely a lot of pull here. Right, just because of the
• 55:03
  standing. A lot of social standing.
• 55:05
  You can tell he's well off. You can tell he's a businessman.
• 55:10
  You can tell that he's got some social currency here and he's
• 55:14
  using, he's paying for things all the all the time in the
• 55:18
  train and in these dire circumstances, he's constantly
• 55:22
  using his social currency, the eye roll.
• 55:26
  Could not stand that guy. It was like, yeah, can you just
• 55:29
  go away now? Like you've caused enough
• 55:31
  problems. The fact that they covered home
• 55:34
  girls mouth, they covered the Wonder Girl's mouth, they had
• 55:36
  her like pinned down. Yes, yes, because she was
• 55:40
  calling her from the other side of the door and they like he
• 55:44
  like literally like gabbed her and so he wouldn't hear her.
• 55:47
  And it was just like what is happening here?
• 55:50
  This is very low even for you. And this is when we lose 2
• 55:55
  characters. One Madongsuk.
• 55:59
  Yes, he gets bit the way that he gets bit.
• 56:03
  Oh. He was so sad because it's like
• 56:07
  he was so close, like he could have made.
• 56:09
  It he could have made it if it wasn't for the villain Addashi.
• 56:12
  Exactly. He's just like, no, y'all go.
• 56:14
  He basically had to, like, sacrifice himself.
• 56:16
  Yeah, for like, the others to get through to the other side.
• 56:20
  And it was so sad because it was on his hand and like, he didn't
• 56:22
  even realize. And he looked down and he was
• 56:24
  like, Oh no. The zombie that was kind of like
• 56:28
  by the floor noticed that his hand was on the door and then
• 56:34
  like slid up. It was just so disturbing to see
• 56:37
  as well. Like the zombie was like and
• 56:39
  like went all the way up and boom bites him on the hand and
• 56:43
  that's it. He's marked for death.
• 56:45
  He names the baby before like his wife takes off.
• 56:49
  Come on. And I mean we also lose how many
• 56:54
  one of the how many's in this scene, right?
• 56:56
  Yes. The older 1, yes.
• 56:59
  And they were sisters, the two how many's were sisters?
• 57:01
  So it was really sad. And again, she sacrificed
• 57:05
  herself too. But when they get through, you
• 57:08
  can see this big change in Kong you because he's like, why
• 57:11
  didn't you open the door? Like, how could you do that?
• 57:14
  And he flies at the villain, Aja.
• 57:16
  She starts beating on him. Like, rightfully so.
• 57:20
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:21
  Because they took losses there when they didn't need to.
• 57:23
  Yeah, exactly. And then the other how many?
• 57:26
  She really upset because her sister is gone.
• 57:29
  She was. Already grieving for her sister,
• 57:32
  thinking that maybe she was lost in the say at the train and the
• 57:35
  Tejon station. Exactly.
• 57:38
  And then lo and behold, she's alive and they have this moment
• 57:41
  like across the glass, this elation because she's her
• 57:45
  sister's alive. And then boom, like she gets hit
• 57:48
  with this onslaught of zombies and you're like Oh my God to
• 57:52
  lose her. Twice exactly, basically.
• 57:55
  And like, she was just so distraught and hurt because my
• 57:58
  sister put herself in front, you know, before other people.
• 58:02
  And she was just like. And so then she just, like,
• 58:03
  opens the door, yeah. And let's all the zombies in as
• 58:08
  like revenge. Oh my God.
• 58:12
  And those two sisters, actually, they they're watching the news
• 58:16
  earlier on the train. The outbreak is happening on the
• 58:20
  news. And they say, oh, my God, people
• 58:22
  will just riot for anything nowadays.
• 58:24
  And one of the sisters says, back in the day, these people
• 58:27
  would be re educated. And they're referring to Korea's
• 58:32
  past with dictatorships, South Korea's past.
• 58:36
  You know, the Western audience might not get that, that like
• 58:40
  they are looking at this from a completely different lens.
• 58:43
  And maybe the younger generation of Koreans who have no
• 58:47
  experience and no memory of a time before a democratic Korea
• 58:51
  such. A good point.
• 58:52
  So this is probably very triggering for them, at least at
• 58:57
  that point watching the news. Right, right.
• 58:59
  Exactly. Oh, man.
• 59:01
  Just so layered. There's just so much change.
• 59:03
  It's not just zombies. There's so much happening.
• 59:05
  I know so. They have to change trains and
• 59:11
  this is kind of heading into the third act of the movie.
• 59:14
  They have to change trains and the that villain fucking guy.
• 59:19
  I can't believe that he survives the onslaught in his cabin.
• 59:25
  Exactly because the person released those zombies as
• 59:28
  revenge on on that guy and like he managed to weasel his way
• 59:32
  out. Him and the.
• 59:34
  Him and the attendant, I thought that he was like, surely a
• 59:37
  goner. Yeah.
• 59:38
  And like, I was like, oh, he's still.
• 59:40
  Yeah. But Even so, like when they're
• 59:42
  trying to, they're securing the side with the survivors.
• 59:47
  Yeah, right. With Kung Yu, his daughter, the
• 59:49
  pregnant lady, like everybody's been, they've been separated
• 59:53
  into the next vegetable, and they're sealing off that side
• 59:57
  versus the side with the real zombies on it.
• 59:59
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when they're doing that, the
• 1:00:02
  villain Ajashi is just sitting there delegating and barking
• 1:00:06
  orders at people and looking kind of, you know, haggard and
• 1:00:10
  annoyed at the whole situation. That's another way of seeing how
• 1:00:16
  he's not even doing any of the work.
• 1:00:18
  Nope, not at all. Not at all.
• 1:00:20
  Not even doing any. Of the work to assure them,
• 1:00:22
  yeah, yeah, he's like, I'm the leader because I'm better than
• 1:00:25
  all of you, but I'm not doing anything.
• 1:00:27
  Due to his maybe gender, due to his age, due to his position, a
• 1:00:32
  lot of factors at play there that he's just sitting around
• 1:00:36
  doing nothing. Exactly.
• 1:00:39
  And that's why he's able to see the harmony all the way at the
• 1:00:42
  other end of the cabin, open the door with the zombies.
• 1:00:46
  And that's the massacre that happens in cabin 15.
• 1:00:51
  And it's it's terrifying, it's terrible.
• 1:00:55
  But he survives this onslaught. In this part of the movie he
• 1:00:59
  lies to the attendant that the coast is clear and then pushes
• 1:01:04
  him into a zombie to make an escape and this is when he goes
• 1:01:09
  for a bad to worse. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Reaches new lows. Yes.
• 1:01:15
  He just kept reaching lower and lower, and he just kept getting
• 1:01:18
  worse from here. Like there's so many people he
• 1:01:21
  pushed into zombies by the end of the movie.
• 1:01:24
  He not only like he fucks everybody over.
• 1:01:28
  Yep. Because when he leaves the
• 1:01:30
  train, he leaves the train door wide open, Yes.
• 1:01:33
  And that's all the zombies escaped from the cabin exactly
• 1:01:38
  where he was. There were no zombies out in the
• 1:01:41
  train yard anyway. So then he runs into Che Bouchic
• 1:01:48
  and the Wonder Girl, and literally it happens in a split
• 1:01:53
  second. He comes across them and pushes,
• 1:01:56
  shoves the Wonder Girl into the zombie on his tail.
• 1:02:00
  I mean, the devil take him. Like he's just terrible.
• 1:02:03
  Like after all of this, Oh my God.
• 1:02:07
  Awful. And then, of course, Toshi is
• 1:02:10
  devastated. And he's like.
• 1:02:11
  Holding her, it was so sad. And then Toshi gets bitten by a
• 1:02:16
  zombie too and I was just like. Him just holding her as she
• 1:02:19
  convulses and he's like, yeah. The guy like he doesn't.
• 1:02:22
  Know what to do and. Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  And then he gets bit and so the you just you know what happened
• 1:02:27
  that's. It like.
• 1:02:29
  And it was just like, Dang, like, we're not reaching like
• 1:02:31
  the end of this journey because people are just getting killed
• 1:02:33
  off, right? And it was so sad.
• 1:02:36
  The homeless man sacrifices himself so that the pregnant
• 1:02:39
  lady and the little girl can get out from underneath the train
• 1:02:43
  'cause it was a whole train derailment in the.
• 1:02:45
  Oh my gosh, yes. Can we talk about that?
• 1:02:47
  That scene stressed me out because the conductor.
• 1:02:50
  First of all, God bless the conductor.
• 1:02:52
  God bless the conductor. Yeah, RIP conductor.
• 1:02:55
  He, he really tried. He really was so honorable.
• 1:02:58
  And he was like, I'm going to go like, you know, hop across the
• 1:03:01
  train yard to another train. And he told the people like, you
• 1:03:04
  know, get off on the like this this side and like get on this
• 1:03:07
  train. And so he hops over there, he
• 1:03:09
  gets on the train, gets it going, and then all of a sudden
• 1:03:12
  there's this other train that's like on fire and like derailed
• 1:03:15
  and it crashes with his train so that we can assume that the
• 1:03:17
  conductor is gone. And but it causes like this like
• 1:03:20
  little cave situation. He's fine.
• 1:03:24
  Like he's, he's in the yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:26
  He sees it coming down the, the track and he's like, what the
• 1:03:30
  hell. But he he's not injured in that,
• 1:03:32
  in that. Crowd OK, OK, OK OK good.
• 1:03:35
  Yeah, but it caused like like kind of like this little where
• 1:03:37
  the two trains meet. It was like a little like cave.
• 1:03:40
  And so Kong, you pregnant lady. Yeah, Kong, you, the pregnant
• 1:03:44
  lady, the kid and the homeless. Man, homeless man.
• 1:03:48
  And they're like trapped under there.
• 1:03:49
  And like the train is constantly kind of going lower and lower
• 1:03:52
  and lower. It's getting closer and closer
• 1:03:54
  to the ground. And so Ganyu gets out first so
• 1:03:57
  he can like help everybody out of the hole, but then this large
• 1:04:00
  metal thing blocks the hole. So we have to fight to get it
• 1:04:03
  out. And those zombies are coming.
• 1:04:04
  And he's trying to like, because the zombies are like falling out
• 1:04:06
  of the train that crashed into the hole.
• 1:04:09
  So like, like the stakes are high.
• 1:04:11
  Like the weight of the zombies and they're struggling to get to
• 1:04:15
  them because they see them through the glass.
• 1:04:17
  Yes. And like how you gets his
• 1:04:20
  daughter out, he gets the pregnant lady out, and then
• 1:04:22
  those zombies start coming out of the train and the homeless
• 1:04:25
  guy literally sacrifices himself.
• 1:04:27
  Yeah. Was I blocking the zombies from
• 1:04:30
  getting to them? I was like this kind of man was
• 1:04:35
  so it was so stressful. I was like, I can't, I can't.
• 1:04:38
  It was it was the stress more so that was going to Take Me Out
• 1:04:42
  before, like the fear of the zombies because I was like,
• 1:04:45
  like, what's going to happen? Oh my God.
• 1:04:50
  But then the conductor sees the villain and she running across
• 1:04:53
  the tracks. Yes.
• 1:04:55
  He's hounded by zombies following him and he's like, Oh
• 1:04:59
  my God, he's not gonna make it because the villain and she
• 1:05:00
  trips on the. My gosh, Oh my gosh, yes.
• 1:05:03
  Okay, now I remember. Yes, the conductor was still
• 1:05:06
  yes. The conductor leaves the train.
• 1:05:10
  Yes. To help the villain Ajashi, and
• 1:05:14
  the villain Ajashi basically pulls him down.
• 1:05:16
  Yes. And this one, it's unclear if
• 1:05:19
  the villain Ajashi meant to do this.
• 1:05:21
  I think he did. You think he meant to do it like
• 1:05:23
  pull him down and let the zombies get him because it was
• 1:05:28
  very close. You know it.
• 1:05:30
  It's unclear. The villain Ajashi gets clean
• 1:05:34
  away, you know? Yeah, so, so sad for the
• 1:05:37
  conductor because he tried his best.
• 1:05:39
  He. Tried and they get him and then
• 1:05:41
  yeah and. They got him.
• 1:05:43
  And this decrepit man ends up on the train.
• 1:05:46
  So anyway Long story short, Kong Yu, the pregnant lady and the
• 1:05:50
  kid end up on the one train that is heading to Pusan.
• 1:05:55
  Like this is the only train that's made it and is on the
• 1:05:58
  track to Pusan. Thanks to this wonderful
• 1:06:01
  conductor who put it on the track, who is there waiting for
• 1:06:06
  them when he opens the. Villain Adoshi.
• 1:06:10
  This fucking villain, Adoshi, And you know it builds upon
• 1:06:13
  itself, right? So the zombies, it looked like
• 1:06:17
  if their will to live was very strong, yeah, then it would take
• 1:06:22
  longer for them to change. Right.
• 1:06:27
  Into a zombie. Like that's what I'm inferring
• 1:06:30
  because the villain Adashi looked like he was already a
• 1:06:32
  zombie but he was speaking. Yeah, he was like trying to hang
• 1:06:36
  on for as long as he could. Yeah.
• 1:06:38
  And they, and then they throw in this thing where he's like,
• 1:06:40
  look, I have a mom, I want to get back to my mom and Pusan and
• 1:06:44
  yadda, yadda, yadda. And he's like Ajishi, you're a
• 1:06:48
  zombie. Yeah, like you're done.
• 1:06:53
  Komyu sacrifices himself to save his daughter and the pregnant
• 1:06:58
  lady because this. Ajishi lunges at them at one
• 1:07:03
  point during their fight and he puts his hand in front of the
• 1:07:07
  zombie's mouth and that's when he gets bit and I.
• 1:07:13
  Was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Nope.
• 1:07:18
  I was like, maybe the zombie didn't bite his hand.
• 1:07:20
  There's no way. There's no way.
• 1:07:22
  And like, just the realization that like, oh, it's all over.
• 1:07:26
  So then like on you finally, like throws him off of the
• 1:07:28
  train, right. He throws him.
• 1:07:31
  Yeah. And yeah.
• 1:07:32
  And then he, like, rushes to his daughter and the pregnant lady.
• 1:07:35
  He's like telling told a pregnant lady.
• 1:07:37
  Like this is where the break is. When you find a place to stop.
• 1:07:39
  Pull. This.
• 1:07:40
  Yeah, because it was all written in English.
• 1:07:42
  Yes, yeah. So like, please take care of
• 1:07:44
  her. And he was like, you know,
• 1:07:45
  talking to the daughter and like, he's like, rushing,
• 1:07:48
  rushing because he's like, I'm going to turn at any minute.
• 1:07:51
  It was devastating because like, the daughter was crying so hard.
• 1:07:55
  Please don't leave me. Which was something that she had
• 1:07:58
  not. Really said exactly to that
• 1:08:00
  point exactly. And he like had to leave the
• 1:08:04
  cabin, obviously, because he's he's turning.
• 1:08:07
  And like, you just see this shot of him and like, you know, the
• 1:08:10
  film, you know, comes on his eyes and it's happening, like
• 1:08:13
  the change is happening. And you just see this, this
• 1:08:15
  flashback of him when he like held his daughter for the first
• 1:08:18
  time after she was born. And like, he's like smiling.
• 1:08:22
  And then he you just see like the shadow of him like fall off
• 1:08:27
  the train. I was in tears.
• 1:08:30
  I was like. Yeah.
• 1:08:31
  When did you start crying? When did you?
• 1:08:33
  Start that's when I I started crying when he realized he got
• 1:08:36
  bit and he was like rushing to give the pregnant lady
• 1:08:39
  directions about how to operate the train and then sue on is
• 1:08:42
  like screaming, screaming, screaming like daddy, please
• 1:08:44
  don't leave. No, no, no, no.
• 1:08:46
  Like, Oh my God, she was, she was masterful.
• 1:08:48
  Oh my gosh, amazing performance, Amazing performance.
• 1:08:52
  But that's when I started crying, just hearing her
• 1:08:54
  screams. And she was doing that like
• 1:08:55
  Chesty. Scream.
• 1:08:56
  You know. Yes, yes.
• 1:08:58
  Like even when he's sitting outside the train, he could
• 1:09:00
  still hear her screams. And I'm just like, I'm just so
• 1:09:04
  crying. So I was like, Oh no, that's
• 1:09:07
  when I started. I didn't stop till like the end.
• 1:09:10
  Like it never stopped. And like you found out earlier
• 1:09:14
  that the reason she stopped singing at her little recital at
• 1:09:19
  school was because he wasn't there.
• 1:09:22
  She practiced that song specifically for him.
• 1:09:26
  And when she looked at the at the audience, he wasn't there.
• 1:09:29
  So she stopped singing. And it just goes to show that
• 1:09:34
  she was craving his affection, craving his presence.
• 1:09:37
  She wanted to connect with him, but he was never there.
• 1:09:40
  He was an absent father. Something that Ma Dung Suk said
• 1:09:46
  during one of the about halfway through the movie was, you know,
• 1:09:49
  fathers like, they get all the shit and they do all the
• 1:09:51
  sacrificing and they and they catch all this shit.
• 1:09:55
  And it was kind of like a small, profound moment with our trio
• 1:09:58
  because I think they were locked in the bathroom across from the
• 1:10:01
  daughter and the homeless man and the the pregnant wife and
• 1:10:04
  stuff, waiting for the next tunnel.
• 1:10:07
  And he was like, she won't appreciate you until later.
• 1:10:12
  And so you get this final scene of the two final girls.
• 1:10:17
  This is the horror trope, right? The final girl.
• 1:10:20
  You have two final girls here going through a tunnel.
• 1:10:25
  You don't know what's on the other side.
• 1:10:27
  And the soldiers, not that are on the other side, can't verify
• 1:10:31
  if they're infected because they're back lit in the tunnel.
• 1:10:35
  They're walking kind of haggard. They're not limping or anything,
• 1:10:37
  but they just look tired through the scope.
• 1:10:40
  And the soldiers get the kill order, but she starts singing.
• 1:10:45
  I lost it. Her song for her dad, This is
• 1:10:51
  When I start crying is like when she starts singing and she
• 1:10:55
  finishes the song. Yeah, for her dad, man.
• 1:10:59
  I I I lose it every time. Yeah, I lost it because she's
• 1:11:03
  just, she's like crying really hard as she's singing the song.
• 1:11:06
  And the soldiers hearing the song is the reason why they
• 1:11:10
  cancel the kill order because they're like, Oh my gosh, those
• 1:11:12
  are survivors. And so like, you're just seeing
• 1:11:15
  Suan, like, cry and like, sing her song for her dad.
• 1:11:18
  Then the movie ends, screen goes black, and I was just like, that
• 1:11:23
  was an emotional roller coaster that I was not ready for it all.
• 1:11:27
  Yeah, and this is a great subversion of of the Night of
• 1:11:31
  the Living Dead movie. I'm going to guess that you
• 1:11:34
  haven't seen the 1968 Night of the Living Dead movie, but
• 1:11:37
  spoiler for this very famous ending of Night of the Living
• 1:11:42
  Dead. So this is the one that started
• 1:11:44
  it all for modern zombies. The end of Night of the Living
• 1:11:48
  Dead, The sole survivor, Ben, is mistaken for a zombie and shot
• 1:11:54
  and killed by a posse of police. The added bonus is that he's
• 1:11:59
  black, so like in 19. 68 This was incredibly.
• 1:12:03
  Charged right? Oh.
• 1:12:05
  My. God that this black man was shot
• 1:12:07
  by police, mistaken for a zombie and all this stuff.
• 1:12:09
  So it's very racially charged. However, the same thing almost
• 1:12:13
  happens here at the end of Train to Pusan, that these two vinyl
• 1:12:17
  girls are almost mistaken for zombies and they're almost shot
• 1:12:23
  and killed. But then because of our Korean
• 1:12:27
  sensibilities, like the heart and emotions really shine
• 1:12:32
  through here because seeds that they had planted before come
• 1:12:37
  back in. And it's a full circle moment
• 1:12:41
  where she finishes the song for her dad.
• 1:12:44
  And that's what saves them, yes. It was beautiful.
• 1:12:49
  I was. It's a sign that they are human.
• 1:12:52
  Yes, yes, that they love, you know, yes, this overt expression
• 1:12:58
  of love saves them. Yes.
• 1:13:01
  And I remember, like, thinking at the end of the movie, it's
• 1:13:03
  like, I hope that like as she grows up, she like is able to
• 1:13:07
  even though their relationship was not the best, that she like,
• 1:13:10
  does understand and see that like her dad really did love her
• 1:13:14
  and like, sacrifice for her. But yeah, it was it was a
• 1:13:18
  beautiful ending. It's beautiful.
• 1:13:20
  I didn't expect it to be like that at all.
• 1:13:23
  Like, I wasn't, I wasn't ready. I don't.
• 1:13:26
  Think anybody was ready? And I think it still works.
• 1:13:29
  I think it's wonderful and it's powerful, so powerful, so
• 1:13:34
  powerful, and that's it. It ends kind of on a hopeful
• 1:13:36
  note. A lot of zombie movies are kind
• 1:13:38
  of open-ended. Does humanity survive?
• 1:13:41
  We don't know. Whatever.
• 1:13:45
  I don't think that necessarily matters for the movie.
• 1:13:48
  You kind of find out what happens to humanity and how
• 1:13:52
  things shake out in Peninsula. But again, if you don't feel
• 1:13:56
  like watching Peninsula, you can just watch Train to Busan and be
• 1:14:01
  happy that it it kind of ends on a high, a bittersweet high that
• 1:14:07
  they are saved. Yeah, it was an excellent movie.
• 1:14:10
  I'm really glad I watched it finally.
• 1:14:12
  Yes, the last person on earth that I watched it I it feels
• 1:14:15
  like. Do you have any final thoughts
• 1:14:19
  about Train to Pusan? I just really loved it.
• 1:14:23
  And honestly, if you're out there and you're like me and you
• 1:14:25
  don't like scary things, I think that this is a very palatable
• 1:14:31
  quote UN quote scary zombie movie.
• 1:14:34
  So even if your tolerance is really low, like mine, it's like
• 1:14:36
  on the ground. Like I think that you would
• 1:14:37
  really appreciate this movie a lot.
• 1:14:40
  So yeah, highly recommend. I really loved it.
• 1:14:42
  Thank you for having me on for this.
• 1:14:45
  Oh, thank you for volunteering like you were.
• 1:14:47
  You were first in line, basically.
• 1:14:50
  Oh. Yay.
• 1:14:51
  So where can people find you online in case they haven't
• 1:14:54
  listened to the other episodes with you on them or they don't
• 1:14:57
  listen to the Swoon Diaries podcast?
• 1:15:00
  Yes, you can follow me on Instagram at Swoon Diaries Pod
• 1:15:05
  and then you can also find my podcast on Apple or Spotify.
• 1:15:08
  It's called the Swoon Diaries Podcast.
• 1:15:10
  Nice. Thank you, Naz.
• 1:15:12
  I hope you have a wonderful spooky season and we'll talk
• 1:15:16
  soon. Yes, you too.
• 1:15:17
  Thanks, Jess. That's been our show.
• 1:15:19
  I'm Jessica and it's been the Tiba K Rambles podcast.