Latest / Local Legends with Jess: Arizona Edition / Injectables, Aesthetics, and the Real Secret to Feeling Turned On
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- 0:00SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Local Legends with Jess, the Arizona Edition.
- 0:03SPEAKER_02: I'm Jessica Benevento, your mortgage matchmaker, opening doors with ease and bringing you the stories behind Arizona's most inspiring people.
- 0:11SPEAKER_02: From best-selling authors and elite athletes to business badasses making moves across the valley.
- 0:17SPEAKER_02: These are the local legends shaping our communities.
- 0:20SPEAKER_02: Get the inside scoop, real talk, and powerful conversations you won't hear anywhere else.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: Local Legends with Jess, where Arizona's stories connect.
- 0:28SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Local Legends with me, Jess, and my co-host Jason.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: Hello.
- 0:35SPEAKER_02: We gotta work on that.
- 0:36SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 0:37SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've been doing that.
- 0:38SPEAKER_02: Uh I have a special guest with me today.
- 0:40SPEAKER_02: Miss Marissa.
- 0:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're my local legend today.
- 0:44SPEAKER_02: You're our.
- 0:44SPEAKER_02: I have to include it.
- 0:46SPEAKER_02: It's included now.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: I'm like a footnote.
- 0:48SPEAKER_02: Come closer to me.
- 0:49SPEAKER_02: Why are you so far?
- 0:50SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to be by the money.
- 0:51SPEAKER_02: I'm just joking.
- 0:51SPEAKER_02: I'm just joking.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: So, special guest Marissa, you're a local legend because personally, actually, we could both say we've benefited from your services.
- 1:02SPEAKER_02: We'll get into that.
- 1:04SPEAKER_02: But before we get into that, I want to give a shout out to our sponsor, Justin, from uh State Farm.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: He's a local agent here in Arizona, and he covers full life, business insurance, car, home insurance.
- 1:19SPEAKER_02: Anything else I'm missing?
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: W myagentjustin.com.
- 1:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:25SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 1:25SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: He did good.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: So that's our sponsor.
- 1:27SPEAKER_02: He's awesome.
- 1:28SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, we want to give him a shout out.
- 1:31SPEAKER_02: So getting right into you, Miss Marissa.
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: Don't be nervous.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm not nervous.
- 1:38SPEAKER_02: I get nervous every time I do this.
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: I feel like you should have just told me the camera was not rolling, and then we should have done it.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: I know, hey, we're done.
- 1:44SPEAKER_02: Because it gets it's awkward when you know there's a camera on you, right?
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: But don't just Okay.
- 1:50SPEAKER_02: I only have followers.
- 1:51SPEAKER_02: It's not a big deal.
- 1:53SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:53SPEAKER_02: Um, so before we really get into what you do right now, give me a like how did you get to where you are right now?
- 2:02SPEAKER_02: Like, where did that come from?
- 2:03SPEAKER_02: Give me your back.
- 2:04SPEAKER_02: Well, that's a big question.
- 2:05SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 2:06SPEAKER_02: Um just what did you want to be when you when I grew up?
- 2:11SPEAKER_02: You grew up.
- 2:11SPEAKER_02: What did you yes?
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: I actually always wanted to be in skin or skin health.
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: Uh, because I had acne and I'm like, I am figuring this out.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: Like, what where did we go wrong?
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: What am I doing wrong?
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: And I wanted an answer for people.
- 2:25SPEAKER_01: Um, I went to nursing school because my dad said I couldn't become an aesthetician.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: Um, so he's like, you have to become something else.
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, okay.
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: So I went to nursing school and then I met a dear friend who was an esthetician going back to school to do injectables.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: At that time, this was like 2012.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: I didn't even know what injectables were.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: This is kind of when it was more of a secret.
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: And um people would say, like, oh, who does your lips?
- 2:53SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, it's MAC lip gloss with this color.
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: You know, I had no idea what it was.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: Uh, fast forward, got into um bedside nursing for only one year and quickly realized that is not where I belong.
- 3:05SPEAKER_02: And what's that look like, bedside nursing?
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: I was on a neurotrauma unit at Osborne.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: And I mean, it's it's um gratifying, but I had little ones and I was taking care of a lot of people with like traumatic brain injuries.
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: Um, you take that stuff home with you.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: It's gotta be difficult.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: And you're like, my kids are never going in a car with me ever again.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: That's gotta be tough.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: So, but it was great.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: Uh, it was it was cool to see the good stories of you know, like motorcycle accidents and they come in and their jaws are wired shut, and then three months later they're walking out.
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's cool.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: It was beautiful at times.
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: So I did that for one year, and then I slowly went into aesthetics as I built my clientele.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: And so this is 10 years ago.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: And so I was doing the hospital.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: I was also an um a nurse at the Intel construction, like the power plant.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: I was the construction nurse.
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: How did that come a bit?
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: Where did you get that job from?
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: Is that like a no-show job?
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: Seriously.
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: I would have everything from like a splinter to a heart attack.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: I was like, I'm here, guys.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: Um tacos are gonna indigestion.
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: And then another guy's like, I have acid, like taking my hand off.
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: So, and then some days I would go 12 hours and not see anybody.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, it was a great job because the hours I could start at 4 and 30 in the morning.
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: Okay, and then I could get the girls after school.
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, anyways, um, I did the those two jobs while I was building up my clientele as an injector.
- 4:37SPEAKER_01: And then as my clientele grew, I was able to let go of those other two and then fully devote to aesthetics um after about a year doing all three.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: And then fast forward a few years, maybe about six of them, I realized I think this industry is going to have a little bit more um ruling or legislation with it.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: And so I felt the push to go back to school to become a nurse practitioner because I knew fast forward we may have to have a medical director overseeing everything that we do as nurses.
- 5:12SPEAKER_01: And so in Arizona, you have full practice authority as a nurse practitioner.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: So I went back to school strictly just to own my own practice, be my own medical director.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: So cool.
- 5:22SPEAKER_01: And then during that process, you have to do clinical hours, and so I was able to do roughly 700 hours with a medical doctor, and um just be at like the forefront of our health care and look at what it looks like and how we're treating people, and I really saw a huge disconnect, and not that he wasn't brilliant, I think he's like one of the smartest people I've ever met in my life, but I think there's a big disconnect between Eastern and Western medicine, yeah, and then um peptides became really hot.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: So I started looking into peptides and then realized the missing piece was understanding hormones.
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: So all that has led me to a mode where my business partner, Heather, and I, we have opened the practice together in July.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: It'll be two years that we've been there.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: Our baby will be two.
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: And we offer injectables, hormone optimization, peptide therapy.
- 6:25SPEAKER_01: We're rolling out IV therapy, like methylene blue and detox IVs, really cool stuff.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: Do you do the methylene blue?
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: I haven't tried it yet.
- 6:34SPEAKER_01: I literally just picked it up last week and I'm really excited.
- 6:38SPEAKER_01: We were just getting all the supplies.
- 6:39SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 6:39SPEAKER_01: Have you guys tried it?
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: You know what's so funny?
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: You see, it's a social media world, right?
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: You see guys like drop it in their mouth.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: I'm reading everything, and I'm like, I think we'll do water.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: And then after a while, I'm like, I don't really feel it.
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: So now I'm like dropping it.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: My whole mouth looked like I just ate blue ink.
- 6:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was so all day.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: I was like, you can't do that.
- 7:00SPEAKER_02: Like, you gotta like drop it in your throat or IV.
- 7:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:03SPEAKER_02: IV is gonna be the best way to do it.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Jess, one of the ways you could tell if it's real is if your urine's blue.
- 7:10SPEAKER_02: She's like, I got blue urine screaming from the bathroom.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: My kids are like, you guys are weird.
- 7:17SPEAKER_02: I felt like I only did it once, uh-huh, but I definitely felt a jolt of like clarity, energy.
- 7:24SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, is this just poison?
- 7:26SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, good poison.
- 7:28SPEAKER_02: It was like literally, yeah.
- 7:31SPEAKER_02: Good poison, I guess.
- 7:33SPEAKER_01: But what are the benefits to it?
- 7:34SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
- 7:35SPEAKER_01: Well, we're just bringing it on now.
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: So um to help really help bring more oxygen to your red blood cells.
- 7:42SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: And so that can get delivered throughout the body better, and then overall cognitive benefits.
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 7:48SPEAKER_01: So people are doing it for longevity to lower inflammation and help improve cognitive improvement.
- 7:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I felt something.
- 7:55SPEAKER_02: Are you still?
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: You know, you gotta see you gotta see Mel Gibson.
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: Did you see that on Joe Rogan?
- 8:00SPEAKER_01: I love him.
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: And he's yeah, he's a little I like Mel.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: Either you love him or you don't.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: Oh, I like Joe Rogan.
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like both of them a lot.
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: But he said, This is you just watch it because he's like methylene blue and a bunch of different things helped his friends with cancer and they're cancer-free.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: That's why you got it.
- 8:15SPEAKER_01: It is interesting where people are going with can't like I'm actually not scared to get cancer if I get it.
- 8:21SPEAKER_01: I feel like we all know what we're doing.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: You know?
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Um and it's it's pretty fascinating where I think it's such a fun time to be in medicine.
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do too.
- 8:30SPEAKER_02: And I love how so I'm gonna glaze you.
- 8:32SPEAKER_02: I glaze my yes.
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: I love how I've never been to someone, so let me rewind and tell my audience how I met you.
- 8:40SPEAKER_02: I was introduced.
- 8:41SPEAKER_02: So I have a friend.
- 8:42SPEAKER_00: It always goes back to her story.
- 8:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it does.
- 8:43SPEAKER_02: That's I like it.
- 8:44SPEAKER_02: She's a guest on here.
- 8:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 8:46SPEAKER_02: Well, I had a friend that um I I ran into, and she was like, I'm out of control.
- 8:55SPEAKER_02: And she's older than me.
- 8:56SPEAKER_02: She's like, I'm out of control, like sexually.
- 8:59SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm so around.
- 9:01SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my god, what are you doing?
- 9:03SPEAKER_02: Because I've done the hormone pellet before, and it kind I feel like it just my body probably just got used to it and I didn't feel the crazy effects.
- 9:11SPEAKER_02: And this animal, as you know, is now on testosterone.
- 9:16SPEAKER_02: So it's like to to continue a good marriage, I feel like you have to be, you have to be on the same page, or he's just gonna go and find somebody.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: You have to.
- 9:24SPEAKER_02: You have to.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: And I told my husband, I was like, I think I'm saving marriages.
- 9:28SPEAKER_01: He goes, Well, you could be ruining it.
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: No, and I'm like, what do you mean?
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: He's like, Well, what if one person and I was like, You're right.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, exactly.
- 9:38SPEAKER_02: Like you have to consult, like that should be your first.
- 9:40SPEAKER_00: Well, you know what it is, to be honest with you.
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: And you are actually saving marriages because like I love my wife, right?
- 9:46SPEAKER_00: But as a guy, we're kind of like animals in some way, right?
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: We really are.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: And and it's like when a guy wants to do something with his wife, and his wife is like, No, I'm not, I don't feel it.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: You kind of feel like you're like turned down as a little child.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: I've been doing push-ups, I'm working out.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what don't you see?
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: And then it's not even like that she doesn't love me, it's just that she's tired, right?
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I'm like, you gotta untire yourself.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: Like there's only so much.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: I can take it.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: I'm like running around grabbing my knuckles.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
- 10:18SPEAKER_01: Like, I'll do the dishes.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: I'll do the city.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: I did.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: I started doing the dishes.
- 10:21SPEAKER_02: I was like, that worked correctly.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: I'm like getting stews, I'm making uh ragoo.
- 10:25SPEAKER_02: I you just need to clean.
- 10:26SPEAKER_02: Just clean, make beds, put your clothes away.
- 10:28SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's very easy.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: It's like, honey, I'm come home, show me a picture.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: And it was that I did the laundry room with a picture.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: It was a turn-on! That really is a turn-on.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, seriously, it was.
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: I swear to God, I'm like, oh, that's so amazing.
- 10:42SPEAKER_01: No, I shouldn't.
- 10:43SPEAKER_01: A cleanhouse to us is like you guys getting like a bikini picture.
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:47SPEAKER_01: Or like so true.
- 10:48SPEAKER_01: Like when the cleaning ladies leave, I'm like, okay.
- 10:50SPEAKER_01: I feel feeling, right?
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: But that's the thing I don't get.
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: Like, we have to really clean before the cleaning lady comes.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: I'm not, I don't understand that concept.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: I did too.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: She's like, she's not here to do everything.
- 11:00SPEAKER_02: She's not no.
- 11:02SPEAKER_02: What I say, and I don't talk like that, I say she's not a maid.
- 11:06SPEAKER_02: We don't have a maid.
- 11:07SPEAKER_02: If you want a maid, you have to pay for a maid.
- 11:09SPEAKER_02: We have a cleaning lady.
- 11:11SPEAKER_02: So get your shit out and let her clean.
- 11:14SPEAKER_02: I like that.
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: Like a document of what it is that she cleans and what she doesn't.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: That's all I need.
- 11:18SPEAKER_02: Or she makes things look nice.
- 11:19SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nice job.
- 11:21SPEAKER_02: She's putting a bunch of shit nicely away.
- 11:24SPEAKER_02: Like, no, you put it away.
- 11:26SPEAKER_02: Anyway, we are off topic.
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: What about laundry?
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: I did laundry.
- 11:29unknown: All right.
- 11:30SPEAKER_02: Wow, you're kind of a dream.
- 11:31SPEAKER_02: So back, he's done it once in like 15 years.
- 11:34SPEAKER_02: Like, and he literally just did it.
- 11:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 11:37SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: That was my moment to shine.
- 11:39SPEAKER_02: You did shine.
- 11:40SPEAKER_02: Good job.
- 11:41SPEAKER_02: So back to how I met you.
- 11:44SPEAKER_02: So my friend is like, oh my God, I'm so I'm this, I'm that.
- 11:48SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm like so turned on, I can't even handle it, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 11:51SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh, I gotta get back there because I was there at one point with my hormone therapy with the pellet, but I just I must have been with her boyfriend too.
- 12:00SPEAKER_02: No, it was with you.
- 12:01SPEAKER_02: I told you this show.
- 12:03SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I'm gonna go back.
- 12:05SPEAKER_02: So I was like, oh my gosh, give me her number.
- 12:08SPEAKER_02: And that's when I called you.
- 12:10SPEAKER_02: I came in, but this is where I'm gonna really glaze you.
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: I came in beautiful.
- 12:14SPEAKER_02: You have a beautiful office.
- 12:16SPEAKER_02: And that right away, I mean, if you're gonna go in and you wanna feel good and look good, like your aesthetic is on point.
- 12:24SPEAKER_02: So you're you're that's beautiful.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: And that already said, like you ruined her for all offices moving through.
- 12:28SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 12:28SPEAKER_02: I'm so yeah.
- 12:30SPEAKER_02: So that was beautiful.
- 12:31SPEAKER_02: But you actually sat down with me and really it was like, tell me everything, like what's going on?
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: And even though I was on the hormone pellet um and whatever, you you just it was like, okay, that's in the past.
- 12:46SPEAKER_02: We're gonna start from zero.
- 12:47SPEAKER_02: And you just it's not like you just injected me with stuff that I've already been taking, like you actually had blood works blood work done.
- 12:55SPEAKER_00: But I think you enjoy the story just as much as the medicine, which is why you're good at what you do.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's so cool.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 13:02SPEAKER_02: It was so cool.
- 13:03SPEAKER_02: And I was, I think I had said to you at one time, like I want to get back to that feeling with the pellet.
- 13:09SPEAKER_02: That one time when I first got it in, I remember driving and there was an 18-wheeler next to me.
- 13:17SPEAKER_02: And this very unattractive kind.
- 13:20SPEAKER_02: I was like, uh I swear to God.
- 13:23SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my god, it works.
- 13:25SPEAKER_02: Now I know how it is.
- 13:26SPEAKER_02: Nothing like the first time.
- 13:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that first freaking high.
- 13:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess.
- 13:32SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 13:33SPEAKER_02: But I want to get back there.
- 13:35SPEAKER_02: And Verissa's like, okay, I don't know if I could get you wanting to have sex with a uh a truck driver, but I will do my best.
- 13:43SPEAKER_02: But I just do.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: She said she could, but I had to sign off on her.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: It was working.
- 13:50SPEAKER_01: So we have limits.
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: There's only so much we can take to I got all excited.
- 13:55SPEAKER_02: So I get blood work and we go over everything.
- 13:57SPEAKER_02: And literally, I mean, you wanted to know everything.
- 14:00SPEAKER_02: And it's just, I'm on Lexapro, obviously, to deal with my husband.
- 14:05SPEAKER_02: That's why I got on that antidepressant, anti-anxiety med um 15 years ago.
- 14:10SPEAKER_02: But Bruce is like, we gotta get you off that.
- 14:12SPEAKER_02: Like we're gonna really go slow, but like there's we could do natural things to get you there.
- 14:19SPEAKER_02: And I just love that you really it's it's you could tell you really care.
- 14:24SPEAKER_02: And I I love that.
- 14:25SPEAKER_02: And you yeah, and I'm sure.
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: No, listen, you've done wonders.
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: We had to don't get her off the Lexapro too quick.
- 14:34SPEAKER_02: Well, remember I did stop it.
- 14:39SPEAKER_02: Remember, I told you, like, I told you not to be able to get it.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: Did you shut the refrigerator?
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: I caught a knife through it.
- 14:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she did exactly what I said, don't do.
- 14:48SPEAKER_02: Oh no, that's exactly her.
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: All she heard was get off Alexa Pro and I know.
- 14:52SPEAKER_02: When when Verissa said we're gonna wean you off slowly, I was like, I could handle this.
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's trying to 101.
- 15:00SPEAKER_02: Lexapro pills without but anyway, it's been a wonderful experience so far.
- 15:07SPEAKER_02: And I I want to share you with people because again, I've I've been to doctors in the past, and it's I I you really do care.
- 15:17SPEAKER_02: And that's how I run my business.
- 15:19SPEAKER_02: And again, like I had said in our other, you know, other episode, I I really like to be at this age and be able to surround myself with people that are alike.
- 15:29SPEAKER_02: Like I just that that truly care that their business is not just a job, it's an actual career and you want to help other people and that you get excited to help other people.
- 15:38SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know if I should you text me back.
- 15:41SPEAKER_02: Like that's not normal.
- 15:42SPEAKER_02: A doctor doesn't text someone back.
- 15:44SPEAKER_02: Like, that's thank you for that.
- 15:45SPEAKER_02: And I know I annoy you on the weekends.
- 15:47SPEAKER_02: You really don't.
- 15:48SPEAKER_02: I actually love when you text me.
- 15:50SPEAKER_02: I I love it.
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: I'm like, and I'm just texting you back, or I need comment really.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: Jess is at a truck stop.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: What is going on?
- 16:00SPEAKER_01: Just saw her location.
- 16:03SPEAKER_02: Just drove past me.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: I was driving my son to baseball.
- 16:05SPEAKER_02: She was in a truck on it's crazy because I'll never forget that feeling.
- 16:11SPEAKER_02: Looking up and I got like the tingle.
- 16:14SPEAKER_02: You know, the tingle?
- 16:16SPEAKER_02: I didn't do anything, so we're good.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: Oh, gee, thanks, Jess.
- 16:20SPEAKER_02: Okay, but going to, besides the hormone pellet and the hormones, tell us about peptides because that is such a huge, like you said, such a huge topic.
- 16:30SPEAKER_01: It's such a buzzword.
- 16:31SPEAKER_01: It's such a hot thing right now.
- 16:32SPEAKER_02: I get excited ejecting myself.
- 16:34SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what I'm really doing, but it's kind of fun.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: My son's like, Dad, I was getting the butter and a syringe hit me in the top of the head.
- 16:40SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
- 16:42SPEAKER_02: Tell us about butter peptides.
- 16:45SPEAKER_01: Um well, when I was looking into peptides and learning more about them, and I think too, everybody is so much more educated today because of social media than so I have a lot of times people come to me and they're like, I want to try this.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, I've actually never heard of this.
- 17:02SPEAKER_01: So please let me look it up, give me a few days and like educate myself.
- 17:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 17:07SPEAKER_01: Um I love peptides.
- 17:08SPEAKER_01: Peptides think of them as signals.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: And so the reason why I went into understanding hormones was because peptides are signals, but hormones are like the environment.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: And so if your hormones are off or not balanced or declined, these aren't gonna operate as well.
- 17:27SPEAKER_01: And so I felt like not that they don't work, but just not as well.
- 17:30SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 17:31SPEAKER_01: And so anytime somebody would come in for peptides, I'm like, okay, well, where are we at with our hormones?
- 17:35SPEAKER_01: That's why it's important to get blood.
- 17:40SPEAKER_01: How's everything?
- 17:41SPEAKER_01: Because we used to tell people you can't out-supplement a bad diet.
- 17:44SPEAKER_01: It's true.
- 17:44SPEAKER_01: You can't out peptide, you know, a bad lifestyle or just an aging human.
- 17:49SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think they're great.
- 17:51SPEAKER_01: I love them.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: I think it's we have we know like maybe 10, I feel like, that are floating around on social media, but there's thousands.
- 18:00SPEAKER_01: And so it's a really cool part of the industry that is growing, that will get a lot of attention.
- 18:05SPEAKER_01: Um, we did just release, I think, 12 more that are gonna be more readily available when they were removed from the category two list.
- 18:13SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 18:13SPEAKER_02: Um so wildly enough, you know, Gina.
- 18:16SPEAKER_02: My friend Gina, who's okay.
- 18:18SPEAKER_02: I went to um lunch with my girlfriends the other day, and I haven't seen the one in a while.
- 18:22SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh my god, you look you're so did you just get a spray tan?
- 18:25SPEAKER_02: Like she was a little tanner than she said peptides.
- 18:29SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no way!
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: Like you take a tiny bit, and I went in the sun in March.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: I'm like, March.
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: She's like, that's it.
- 18:35SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you look like you just got off a yacht.
- 18:37SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 18:39SPEAKER_02: I mean, it is crazy.
- 18:40SPEAKER_02: That might be my next one.
- 18:42SPEAKER_02: So here's so tan.
- 18:43SPEAKER_02: I just went spray tan.
- 18:44SPEAKER_02: But like I would sometimes I'm so that one was on the list.
- 18:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 18:48SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 18:49SPEAKER_02: So that's gonna be more readily available.
- 18:50SPEAKER_02: Let's try it.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: Here's a question I got.
- 18:52SPEAKER_02: I'll inject myself.
- 18:53SPEAKER_00: So now people are readily like educating themselves, yeah, and people are buying it on their own.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: Yes, right.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: But then again, you don't know what you're buying, right?
- 19:02SPEAKER_00: So with you, I'm assuming, right, everything you get has to be like top-notch stuff, which is so important.
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there are three compounding pharmacies that I feel safest with.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: Um's in Texas, one's here, and one's in Colorado.
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: They all operate.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: Well in the US.
- 19:18SPEAKER_01: All in the US, yes.
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: Um there are other so I don't think research peptides are bad, but I don't feel safe enough to prescribe them to a patient.
- 19:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: You know, I might try something and put something in my own body, but because it's not, you know, regulated yet, we don't really know what the dose is.
- 19:38SPEAKER_01: We don't really know.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: Is BP 157 regulated?
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: BPC157, yeah.
- 19:42SPEAKER_01: What's that one?
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that one it's like a recovery drug.
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: It's like a wolverine.
- 19:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is great.
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: That one's amazing.
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: You can take it orally too.
- 19:50SPEAKER_01: So my daughter, she suffered, um, she had ulcers.
- 19:53SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: And so you could take it orally, and basically it will heal everything from hole to hole.
- 19:59SPEAKER_00: It's really so healing.
- 20:01SPEAKER_01: And with KP.
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: I was, but I didn't like the fact that it gave me black and blues in my stomach.
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: I was walking around.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: I'm just like hold pressure.
- 20:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: Hold pressure after you.
- 20:09SPEAKER_00: Is that I no, I don't mind.
- 20:11SPEAKER_00: Roll off.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: Do you have to take them in your stomach?
- 20:15SPEAKER_01: No.
- 20:15SPEAKER_01: You can do your stomach, you can do the top of your glute.
- 20:18SPEAKER_00: Your uh right.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: You can do the back of your earlobe.
- 20:23SPEAKER_02: Can you really take them in your earlobe?
- 20:24SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just kidding.
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: Walk around like an earring.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
- 20:30SPEAKER_01: The back of your arm.
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: Or it's kind of painful, but the top of like top outer part of your thigh.
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: It's painful for me.
- 20:38SPEAKER_01: But I've tried it.
- 20:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:40SPEAKER_01: I think our glute, we have a lot more cushion back here.
- 20:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:43SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can't.
- 20:43SPEAKER_01: You can do like the top of it right there.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: But is there a spot that hits better, like for overall feeling?
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: Um, it's all going systemic.
- 20:52SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: But it's funny because I used to think people were crazy for saying this.
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: But Dr.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: Neil Rousier, I was listening to a hormone conference that he was hosting, and he was saying for men or women to give their testosterone in their thigh because there's more blood supply, and there's not as much blood supply in your stomach tissue.
- 21:11SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh my gosh, there is something to this.
- 21:14SPEAKER_01: So I guess so I tried the top thigh.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: It hurts, and I bruised.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: But I'll try it again.
- 21:19SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 21:21SPEAKER_02: That's great.
- 21:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 21:22SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 21:23SPEAKER_02: Your favorite peptides right now that you personally give.
- 21:29SPEAKER_01: Give?
- 21:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 21:30SPEAKER_02: Or take as well.
- 21:31SPEAKER_01: Um, I love growth hormone stimulating peptides.
- 21:36SPEAKER_01: So those are gonna be your smerelin, ipimerelin, tesmerelin, or cjc one two nine five.
- 21:42SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 21:43SPEAKER_01: Uh, one of the pharmacies that I get from, it's compounded together, the CJC, ipimeralin, and sermorelin.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: So having like growth hormone in your body, elevated growth hormone, is linked to just overall longevity, better health, better everything.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: Things.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: And so that hormone alone with testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone, I feel is just as important.
- 22:08SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 22:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:09SPEAKER_02: Is that injected too?
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: You would inject that five out of seven nights a week.
- 22:12SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: And you can cycle that.
- 22:14SPEAKER_01: Some people say you never have to come off.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: I always say, like, maybe take a month break and go back on it again for three months.
- 22:20SPEAKER_02: Should I be on that?
- 22:20SPEAKER_01: Um, we could try it.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: Helps with insulin resistance, helps with better sleep, helps with muscle definition.
- 22:27SPEAKER_01: A lot of people think they just need to be on trzepatide or um semaglutide or retrotide, which it's great.
- 22:34SPEAKER_01: Those are awesome, but for long term, we need to think about our muscles, our bones, like everything that we're losing.
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: And so the growth hormone stimulate peptide helps put on muscle, helps lean mass.
- 22:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: Um sleep, right?
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: Sleep, recognition.
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: Actually, hair too, the thickness of hair.
- 22:51SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 22:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: So let me ask you this.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: Would a I guess everybody would be cool, but I think it would be cool for you, like if you had somebody that like really did not feel great about themselves, like were maybe a little overweight, insecure.
- 23:07SPEAKER_00: And if you take that person from point A to all the way to like them feeling wonderful about themselves, has to be like have you done anybody that's like from point A?
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: I know Jess is like S, like she's getting there, right?
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: But I'm saying, like, some but you Well, we have sex three times a day.
- 23:25SPEAKER_02: I'll be there.
- 23:26SPEAKER_02: No robot, probably.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: Here's a compliment to you, but you're not starting from zero.
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: Like you were really good when you're when you saw her originally, but I'm talking somebody like all the way to the left.
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 23:38SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 23:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 23:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like starting from ground zero.
- 23:41SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 23:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 23:42SPEAKER_00: You know, you might have family members like that.
- 23:44SPEAKER_01: Is an injector.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: And so all the time I can do injections in somebody in my favorite clientele is like 40s, 50s, 60s.
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 23:54SPEAKER_01: Because after we've done, you know, a huge treatment and they're in my chair for two hours, and I give them the mirror and they get tears in their eyes because they're like, I look like myself again.
- 24:03unknown: Yeah.
- 24:04SPEAKER_01: And it's so rewarding.
- 24:06SPEAKER_01: But now, after going through school and understanding hormones, it's just like that because now they feel better.
- 24:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: So it's like you feel good, you look good.
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: Film.
- 24:15SPEAKER_02: Like film, like a before and after.
- 24:17SPEAKER_00: No, like a like a journey.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: Like because people like to be like attached to somebody's like win.
- 24:24SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 24:25SPEAKER_00: And you're seeing this person.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: It's a win for you.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: It's a win for that person.
- 24:28SPEAKER_00: It's actually just a good story.
- 24:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: And you take somebody from A and like not feeling great to a true story at the time.
- 24:34SPEAKER_01: No, that's a total microphone.
- 24:39SPEAKER_01: Can I get a sample paper?
- 24:41SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely.
- 24:42SPEAKER_02: Why don't I get off everything?
- 24:44SPEAKER_02: Everything.
- 24:45SPEAKER_02: Oh, let's go to her own mess.
- 24:47SPEAKER_00: Can we cage her for a couple months?
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: She gets off everything.
- 24:52SPEAKER_00: Last time she did that, she had a goatee.
- 24:54SPEAKER_02: And no, that's from hormone.
- 24:57SPEAKER_01: That's why I have to get laser all the time.
- 24:59SPEAKER_00: She started speaking like she was from the cartel.
- 25:01SPEAKER_01: I did have to tell my husband that the other day.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: I was like, hey, you know what?
- 25:04SPEAKER_01: Like when we're driving, if you ever see anything, like you have to tell me.
- 25:08SPEAKER_01: Like I was like, why would I see something?
- 25:10SPEAKER_01: I'm like, because I just started testosterone.
- 25:12SPEAKER_01: You're going to tell me see something.
- 25:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have to shave my face.
- 25:15SPEAKER_01: Thankfully.
- 25:16SPEAKER_02: We do laser hair removal at the office.
- 25:18SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 25:18SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 25:19SPEAKER_00: She had a mustache one day, but like a full one, it was like a five o'clock.
- 25:22SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't.
- 25:23SPEAKER_00: I get rid of that.
- 25:25SPEAKER_02: I've been doing hair removal for probably since my son was probably a year old, like 13 years off.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: Because of more Italian, also.
- 25:33SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
- 25:34SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 25:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 25:35SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 25:36SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, go back to the treatments that you do in your office.
- 25:40SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 25:41SPEAKER_01: So Heather is my partner, and she does all the aesthetic side as far as like facials, derma planing, um, lasers.
- 25:50SPEAKER_01: We have a BBL Moxie laser that's amazing.
- 25:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, peels.
- 25:55SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: All the skin health, get you on um good medical grade skincare regimens.
- 26:01SPEAKER_01: And then uh my side of the practice, it's myself and Tori, and then we do all the injectables.
- 26:07SPEAKER_01: And so dermal fillers, regenerative medicine.
- 26:10SPEAKER_01: We brought on human biologics, which is really cool because um so I don't know if I can say this or not, but I'm gonna say it.
- 26:19SPEAKER_01: Um so have you heard of PRP or PRF?
- 26:22SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 26:23SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that is injected.
- 26:25SPEAKER_01: It was started like in joints, helps with healing, stimulate collagen, tissue repair.
- 26:30SPEAKER_01: So we put that around the eyes or around the mouth.
- 26:33SPEAKER_01: Now, fast forward, uh, we met a doctor at Aesthetic Next in October who got on the panel or on stage, and he's been studying pure amniotic fluid and cells from the placental cord um for the last 20 years.
- 26:51SPEAKER_01: And he has been studying regenerative medicine and its benefits.
- 26:56SPEAKER_01: With that, they're doing an FDA clinical trial right now with IV therapy for long-term COVID patients.
- 27:02SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 27:03SPEAKER_01: Extremely safe.
- 27:04SPEAKER_01: They've had zero um complications.
- 27:08SPEAKER_01: And it's all from healthy C-section deliveries.
- 27:11SPEAKER_01: And they are the moms are third-party tested, babies are third-party tested, DNA is removed from the endiotic fluid.
- 27:18SPEAKER_01: Okay, and so we're left with 350 billion exosomes, growth factors, cytokines, clotho protein, like everything you need to grow a perfectly healthy human.
- 27:27SPEAKER_01: We use to inject under the eyes and around the mouth.
- 27:30SPEAKER_01: What?
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: Sign me up.
- 27:32SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 27:32SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
- 27:33SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
- 27:34SPEAKER_01: We apply it topically after getting lasers, and it is wild how you immediately feel like the burning pain is just gone.
- 27:43SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: It's almost like stem cell.
- 27:46SPEAKER_01: Almost.
- 27:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they're exosomes, so they're messengers.
- 27:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:50unknown: Yeah.
- 27:50SPEAKER_00: That's another thing that's amazing if you if you read up on stem cell.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: I want to fly to Panama and I want to get it done.
- 27:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 27:56SPEAKER_01: So bad.
- 27:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's amazing.
- 27:58SPEAKER_02: But Okay, can I do that around my I this is what I need, and this is why this is why I get my makeup and hair done because I hate what I look like on camera.
- 28:08SPEAKER_02: I'm so loose right here.
- 28:09SPEAKER_02: What could you do?
- 28:10SPEAKER_02: Or is this a mini facelift?
- 28:13SPEAKER_01: I mean, we could do a facelift, but I would say support your the frame of your face.
- 28:17SPEAKER_01: So like temples, lateral jaw, and maybe a little bit in the top one.
- 28:21SPEAKER_01: That would help you.
- 28:22SPEAKER_02: Injecting me?
- 28:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 28:26SPEAKER_02: Call you tomorrow and make an appointment.
- 28:27SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 28:28SPEAKER_02: Since we share accounts now.
- 28:30SPEAKER_02: I just if I if I look better, I'll feel better and I'll want to have a lot of sex.
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: There we go.
- 28:36SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 28:37SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for being here.
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having me.
- 28:39SPEAKER_02: Okay, give your plug.
- 28:40SPEAKER_02: Where can we find you?
- 28:41SPEAKER_02: Well, I got one last question.
- 28:42SPEAKER_02: How can we get in touch with you?
- 28:43SPEAKER_02: One last question.
- 28:44SPEAKER_00: What?
- 28:44SPEAKER_00: In your practice, is this the most that you've seen?
- 28:48SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
- 28:49SPEAKER_00: In in your practice, has your male clientele jumped?
- 28:53SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
- 28:54SPEAKER_00: So I feel like males are now being more aware of things online, like using skincare products.
- 28:59SPEAKER_01: They are.
- 28:59SPEAKER_01: So has your I would say 20% of our practice is male.
- 29:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:03SPEAKER_01: And it is growing.
- 29:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:04SPEAKER_01: Especially now that we offer hormone replacement therapy.
- 29:07SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 29:07SPEAKER_01: Um, but then them walking in the door knowing they're gonna get hormone replacement therapy, it them seeing the skincare and the treatments, everything like, oh wait, could I laser my back or what could I do for my wrinkles?
- 29:18SPEAKER_01: I think people are just they're they're more open.
- 29:21SPEAKER_01: It's not just a girl thing.
- 29:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 29:24SPEAKER_01: So go ahead.
- 29:25SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry for jumping in.
- 29:26SPEAKER_02: No.
- 29:27SPEAKER_02: I asked Marissa to post.
- 29:28SPEAKER_01: Oh, you can find us on our website.
- 29:30SPEAKER_01: We're working on it right now, but um, it's modescottsdale.com because nobody knows how to spell aesthetics.
- 29:37SPEAKER_01: And then my Instagram handle is I should change it.
- 29:43SPEAKER_01: It's a little hard.
- 29:44SPEAKER_01: A seat A E S T H E T E underscore Marissa Dulin.
- 29:48SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 29:49SPEAKER_01: So if you just type my name, I think you'll find it.
- 29:51SPEAKER_02: Yay! Thank you for being on here.
- 29:52SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me.
- 29:53SPEAKER_02: You rock.
- 29:54SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
- 29:54SPEAKER_02: That was great.
- 29:55SPEAKER_02: That's a wrap.