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Jaguars Reporters: April 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: How often do you get advantages like taking a true
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback at the first place. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters,
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Speaker 1: presented by t I A A Bank with Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 1: John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and J. P. Shagrin. Presented by
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Speaker 1: t I A A Bank starts right now. Welcome into
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters. Today is Monday, April five. J P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: John Oshan, Brian Sexton, Ashland Sullivan out today. We've got
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Speaker 1: big things coming up. Did you hear this? With Peter King?
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Speaker 1: And everyone asks, including our favorite finish to a sporting event.
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Speaker 1: John has the question of the day. Happy day after Easter? Guys,
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Speaker 1: what's up? I had a wonderful easter. Yeah, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: just um, such a beautiful day. And I was out
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Speaker 1: in the Panhandle and stopped and telling Haassee to go
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Speaker 1: mass and met a bunch of people who were Jaguars fans.
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Speaker 1: It was. It was an epic day, just phenomenal and
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Speaker 1: easter supposed to be it is. John, Yeah, I won't
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Speaker 1: call mine epic. It was a good easter. It was it.
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Speaker 1: It was a good easter without being epic. Has that
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Speaker 1: I rode my bike around and ate an ice cream cone.
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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Come from dream that? Oh Marie Hill, Wow,
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Speaker 1: been there forever? Did you go out and do the
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Speaker 1: rails to trails again? No? No, I did not. Did
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Speaker 1: you ride your bike over the bridge to You're asking
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Speaker 1: too many questions? Probably, well, everyone just ride the bike around, right,
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Speaker 1: and we're not there yet. That's later in the show.
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Speaker 1: Did you go over the bridge to make I did not.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going over the bridge. You didn't ride your
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Speaker 1: bike to get ice cream? Bridget out, put it back
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Speaker 1: in the car, drove to the ice cream place, was
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Speaker 1: out the bike, just drove the whole time. Remember to
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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your pods. Give us the five
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Speaker 1: star treatment. As always, let's start with big things today
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Speaker 1: and I'll get us go on today. Phase one starts
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Speaker 1: now April nineteen. Workouts and small groups will be allowed,
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Speaker 1: and teams have been told to prepare to conduct meetings
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Speaker 1: virtually when the offseason program begins whenever that is coming
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Speaker 1: up down the line. And you know, I think it's
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Speaker 1: key here guys. Also to remember the definition of voluntary.
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Speaker 1: It's urban Meyer's first time in this, it feels like
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Speaker 1: he's going to be used to having guys around That
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Speaker 1: may or may not be the case because it is
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Speaker 1: a voluntary period coming up. Yeah, you know, I'm always
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Speaker 1: reminded of the word volunt told right, um and and
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Speaker 1: and we use that in the Boy Scouts a lot.
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Speaker 1: You know, have you been volunte old to go and
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Speaker 1: clean up the latrine? Um? You're not. It is voluntary,
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Speaker 1: and there will be players that will do this. But
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Speaker 1: if even if I'm a veteran player around here, I'm
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Speaker 1: sort of feeling a strong push towards making my presence
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Speaker 1: known because everything is so new and they've cleaned out
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Speaker 1: some people and some things in this building that if
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Speaker 1: you're a player who's been around here, I would think
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Speaker 1: you'd want to come and get a lay at the
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Speaker 1: lamp well. And usually that's how it works my experiences,
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Speaker 1: most veterans, even the guys who normally don't show up
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Speaker 1: for voluntary workouts, which unfortunate for the Jags, they've had
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Speaker 1: so few guys sort of be long lasting players in
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Speaker 1: recent years that you haven't gotten a real feel for
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Speaker 1: who would do that normally and who would when I
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Speaker 1: was in Indie, there was a handful of guys Marvin Harrison,
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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne, Edrin James that you just knew we're only
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Speaker 1: going to come to a certain amount of time. But
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Speaker 1: the difference there when I'm getting at is that was
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Speaker 1: also a case where that system had been in place
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Speaker 1: for X number of years. So those veterans knew the playbook,
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Speaker 1: they knew the coaches, they knew what to expect coming back.
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Speaker 1: Usually when there's a new coaching staff, even the veteran
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Speaker 1: who says, well, I can go train in Los Angeles
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Speaker 1: wants to be there for that first period to get
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Speaker 1: a fuel for the lay of the land. And so
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Speaker 1: I would be surprised if there may be a veteran
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Speaker 1: or two that miss a day or two. But I'd
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Speaker 1: be surprised if you got the one that just was
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Speaker 1: not going to be here at all. But I've been
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Speaker 1: surprised before. You Know, what stands out to me is
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Speaker 1: that urban Meyer keeps using the term culture culture. Culture.
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Speaker 1: You can't build that virtually. You can't build that the coach.
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Speaker 1: The coach can lay out what his expectations are and
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Speaker 1: then his assistant coaches can help cultivate that. But you know,
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Speaker 1: Culture is built in the locker room. Culture is the
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Speaker 1: players and the way they carry themselves, those that rise
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Speaker 1: to that leadership level and those that say I want
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Speaker 1: to be a part of this and they're here for
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Speaker 1: the voluntary part of the off season. You can't build
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Speaker 1: a culture like Meyer wants to build without people in
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Speaker 1: the building. Yeah, and I think you can build it
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Speaker 1: in the weight room. I think if guys are around that,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think you can. It takes steps towards
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Speaker 1: billing the culture, but I agree with you for the
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Speaker 1: most part. Culture is built in the locker room. It's
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Speaker 1: built when you're walking upstairs to launch. It's built in camaraderie.
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Speaker 1: It's built inside conversations where urban might see somebody walking
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Speaker 1: down the hall and have a quick conversation with him
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Speaker 1: as opposed to a virtual zoom call um. There's more
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Speaker 1: thoughts on this coming up, so I won't I won't
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Speaker 1: bury my lead, but absolutely it's a it's the story
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Speaker 1: of the month, aside from the kid who's gonna get
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Speaker 1: drafted here see to me later this month. And in
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Speaker 1: culture is one of those words JP where it could
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Speaker 1: be bs to a lot of people. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: kind of it but as I go back and look,
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Speaker 1: this place hasn't had culture. You know, they tried it
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Speaker 1: with coach Morow. Yeah, well they had it. They had
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Speaker 1: They had just a sliver of it when when Tom
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Speaker 1: came back and that year where they ran it off,
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Speaker 1: but it didn't have any legs. It didn't It wasn't
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Speaker 1: built on rock. Gus Bradley tried to build the culture,
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Speaker 1: but you have to win at some point for the
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Speaker 1: culture to rise. That's the thing you're saying they had
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Speaker 1: culture in seventeen because they went to the championship as
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Speaker 1: soon as they did and there's no culture, right, But
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Speaker 1: you know you were, you were part of that culture
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Speaker 1: organization that over time. Now they want a lot. I
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Speaker 1: get that that there's the correlation, but there was a
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Speaker 1: standard of how things were done right, and Pittsburgh has
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Speaker 1: had that even when they haven't been a championship team.
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Speaker 1: They there's been that Steeler way. It's too easy to
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Speaker 1: say Patriot way, and I don't think that is fair
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Speaker 1: because of all the championships until right. Culture. But you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is that there was no culture
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Speaker 1: in this in this building, and we all knew that
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Speaker 1: there wasn't anything to hold it together when it got
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Speaker 1: nuts right and when the locker room would kind of
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Speaker 1: wobble a little bit, one guy Calais Campbell couldn't write
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Speaker 1: the ship. The culture stands above and it stands apart
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Speaker 1: from any particular player because Tom Brady walks away and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they don't have culture right. It's
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Speaker 1: it's it's important, and it's as big I think a
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Speaker 1: story as Trevor Lawrence. And here's why. Because they haven't
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Speaker 1: had it in this building. And if you're going to
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Speaker 1: transform this franchise, you have to have a culture. You
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Speaker 1: gotta have it, and then you have to win behind
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Speaker 1: it absolutely otherwise it has no it has no burying.
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Speaker 1: I get it. That's a good start for our next
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Speaker 1: two points in big Things. And John, you know, we're
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Speaker 1: talking about phase one starting April, but I guess it
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Speaker 1: should have been starting today, right for for first year
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Speaker 1: head coaches. But it's read mine. The NFL not allowing
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Speaker 1: first year head coaches to start the off season two
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Speaker 1: weeks early is weird, unfair. And you know that Urbans
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Speaker 1: frustrated and I kind of would be too if I
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Speaker 1: were him. It's uh, I guess I don't quite grasp
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Speaker 1: why they couldn't if they're allowed to be doing the
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Speaker 1: virtual meetings in the ninth and get that started, why
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Speaker 1: they a team's with first year coaches, couldn't have at
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Speaker 1: least started what they can do in two weeks now.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I've said it on a couple of
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Speaker 1: podcasts in the last week or so. For the one
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Speaker 1: thing that I've only been around Urban to talk to him,
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Speaker 1: I think once or twice, But the one thing that
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Speaker 1: has been a theme throughout is I want to get
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Speaker 1: to know these players. Uh it, you can tell it
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Speaker 1: sort of makes him nervous not being able to get
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Speaker 1: to know these players because this is what he's used
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Speaker 1: to and to him, January, February and March is the
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Speaker 1: completely logical place to get to know these guys in
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Speaker 1: the weight room casually. Now, I think he gets over
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Speaker 1: time that, oh, the reason you can't do that in
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Speaker 1: the NFL is they need an off season and if
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Speaker 1: you didn't give him this time, they wouldn't have any time.
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Speaker 1: So I think over time he's going to grasp that.
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Speaker 1: But I get it for a first year a guy
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Speaker 1: coming from college to not be able to get your
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Speaker 1: hands on guys and start doing this. I've said before
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Speaker 1: last I would not being around I would not want
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Speaker 1: to be around him in these two weeks that he's
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Speaker 1: losing that opportunity, because he should be getting that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: I don't see why he's not. Everybody every other first
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Speaker 1: year coach has had it for the however many years,
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Speaker 1: except for last year. But last year obviously was so weird.
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Speaker 1: But right now I can't really grasp why they took
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Speaker 1: at least the virtual part of you have a zoom
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Speaker 1: meeting away. Well, look, they adapted throughout the course of
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Speaker 1: the season last year, So why are they not adapting?
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Speaker 1: Here is what you're saying. If not everyone can start
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Speaker 1: adapt and go to that virtual side, why can't you
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Speaker 1: start in two weeks and on that? Well, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: And and my understanding is that this virtual is just
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Speaker 1: the beginning that they're going to eventually work their way
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Speaker 1: into may into something that that seems more normal or
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Speaker 1: at least as normal as you know practice was for
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Speaker 1: these guys last year. You can be frustrated all you want.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to figure out where to do it
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Speaker 1: when he gets when he's out his hands on his players,
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Speaker 1: and you know, training camp last year. If I'm not mistaken,
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Speaker 1: players went home. They went home every night. They didn't
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Speaker 1: stay in a hotel, right. I think they have the
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Speaker 1: option to, but then but it wasn't required like it
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Speaker 1: had been in the past. If i'm if I'm urban Meyer,
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Speaker 1: what I really want if I can't have my two
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Speaker 1: weeks here at the front end, is on the back end.
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Speaker 1: I want to be able to have everybody in a hotel.
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Speaker 1: In other words, I want to be able to build
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Speaker 1: something that seems like camaraderie or a spree to corps
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Speaker 1: or whatever it is that he's trying to build. I
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Speaker 1: want to have these guys together for a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks in camp, and I would be fighting for that
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Speaker 1: if I were him, because you guys have been around it.
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Speaker 1: You know when you go through something together, whether it's
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Speaker 1: winning or losing or the preparation, there is that culture
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Speaker 1: that gets built. To use that word again, among players.
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Speaker 1: You can't go through it when you're leaving every day
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Speaker 1: a four o'clock and going home. You gotta be together.
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Speaker 1: It's maybe he could. He'd have up a coach Buon's
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Speaker 1: camp in uh in Virginia, and you're talking about remember
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Speaker 1: the titles. That kind of thing hit him out there
11:01
Speaker 1: doing four days, and I think in that in the
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Speaker 1: movie they it wasn't smooth, but they made progress there.
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Speaker 1: Um to me, Junction Boys to take Bear Bryant right,
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Speaker 1: and what they went out and did. If I'm him,
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Speaker 1: I'm figuring out a way to get something like, to
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Speaker 1: get something like that. If I can't do it in April,
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Speaker 1: I damn well better be able to do it in July.
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Speaker 1: You better not stop me from July and August being
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Speaker 1: able to get these guys together the Crucible, right. I
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Speaker 1: gotta have him in the Crucible together going through something
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Speaker 1: hard so that when we get to game week I
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Speaker 1: can count on him and they can count on each other.
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Speaker 1: Let's wrap up our big things for this Jaguars Reporters
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Speaker 1: with Brian Sexton. Um So I mentioned I went, my
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Speaker 1: brother in law drove his RV down from Chicago. Right. Uh,
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Speaker 1: they're still sort of in a lockdown mode and they've
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Speaker 1: got four kids, and so we went and met them
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Speaker 1: out in Marianna. They had been in Gulf Shores, Alabama,
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Speaker 1: which is a haunting ground of viewers I think is
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Speaker 1: stomping ground. Yeah. Uh, so I never been a part
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Speaker 1: of the RV life, and I'm not sure I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be again, but as as I'm it was, it
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Speaker 1: was interesting. Um And no, look, r V people are great,
12:09
Speaker 1: but it's a lifestyle, right, I mean it's a it's
12:11
Speaker 1: a very slow pace kind of thing. And we rented
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Speaker 1: and I like pitching tents. My point is, as I'm
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Speaker 1: walking around the r V park out there in Marianna,
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Speaker 1: which it's not right near Florida, Caverne. If you've never been,
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Speaker 1: you should take a trip out there, I ran into
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Speaker 1: clusters of New Orleans Saints fans, right, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: know people are they have their five flag and they
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Speaker 1: had all their Saints chairs and so I didn't, you know,
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Speaker 1: I didn't say, hey, I worked for the Jaguars or
12:39
Speaker 1: you know, hey I'm from Jackson Villy. Just hey, you
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Speaker 1: guys are all Saints fans. Where are you from? And
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Speaker 1: this particular group was from Brandon, Florida down in the
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay area, and I said, so you're from New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: You know, you guys seem like big fans And they
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Speaker 1: weren't from New Orleans. They had no tie to New
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Speaker 1: Orleans whatsoever. You know what they were a fan of
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Speaker 1: They come up to the Panhandle a lot, which is
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Speaker 1: close to New Orleans, and they were fans of Drew Brees,
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Speaker 1: big fans of Drew Brees. The other group that I
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Speaker 1: ran into, same thing, fans of Drew Brees. Now, they
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Speaker 1: were from um a town like forget the name of it.
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Speaker 1: It's out towards Pensacola a bit. So they had some
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Speaker 1: ties because it was close and they spent time in
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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Uh. That group said to me, yeah, and
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Speaker 1: it Drew Brees is gone, so we think we might
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Speaker 1: follow the Jaguars. What again, wasn't wearing anything Jaguar, didn't
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Speaker 1: say anything Jaguar. But they're fans of Trevor Lawrence. And
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Speaker 1: I guess we used to. In the spring of ninety five,
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Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in the Panhel. We
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Speaker 1: tried to build the radio network out there, and we
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Speaker 1: ran into a lot of competition from the Saints and
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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, and we never really got a lot of ground.
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Speaker 1: It's six hours away, I get it. However, those two
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Speaker 1: groups both expressed interest to me in Trevor Lawrence. And
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Speaker 1: this is a kid who is going to transcend Jacksonville, Right,
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Speaker 1: you talk about Mark brunel uh Um. People in this
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Speaker 1: area knew him, People on the West Coast NW him
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Speaker 1: because he played college football there, and people in in
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Speaker 1: the Upper midwestnew him from his time in Green Bay.
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Speaker 1: But he wasn't He wasn't a corner to corner kind
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Speaker 1: of guy. This guy is a rock star, and I
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Speaker 1: think the Jaguars are going to find that when they
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Speaker 1: win with him, they will reach into places out west
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Speaker 1: of here in the Panhandle that maybe they've never had
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Speaker 1: success with before. The Jaguars fans that I ran into
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Speaker 1: in Tallahassee yesterday leaving mass I had a Jaguars golf
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Speaker 1: shirt on, and so they were, you know, they started
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Speaker 1: the conversation. They're as excited as they've been. They said,
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Speaker 1: you know, they come over for three or four games
14:38
Speaker 1: a year. They're talking about renewing tickets. Um. I think
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Speaker 1: that he is going to reach into places and grow
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Speaker 1: the fan base in a way that only winning generally does.
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Speaker 1: But it was the it was the Breeze connection that
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Speaker 1: I wanted to make because they fell in love with
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Speaker 1: who Drew Breese was and what he meant to that city.
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Speaker 1: And obviously Katrina was part of that Trevor Lawrence could
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Speaker 1: come here and be a resurgent figure and and lift
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Speaker 1: this this franchise to heights it's never seen and I
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be really interesting. He will be the
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Speaker 1: biggest player name I think ever to play for this
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Speaker 1: franchise coming in, right, I mean, there has not a
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Speaker 1: higher profile player I think coming in out of the
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Speaker 1: draft handful of There's only been a handful of players
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Speaker 1: this high profile. That's right. So yeah, this team has
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Speaker 1: never had a great, great quarterback was really good. Moreover,
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Speaker 1: they've never had a great cool quarterback. Had Blake been good,
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Speaker 1: he would have been cool, and he would have been
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Speaker 1: the guy at the SPS with you know, the model
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Speaker 1: on his arm, the whole thing. You know. Uh, this
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Speaker 1: guy could be as cool as my homes, as cool
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Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers, as cool as whatever. Peyton wasn't cool,
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Speaker 1: but Peyton had the commercial day. This guy could be that.
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Speaker 1: If he's great and he's a southern kid from Georgia
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Speaker 1: and people feel a connection to him. I'm just telling you,
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Speaker 1: I had three encounters this weekend in the Panhandle that
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Speaker 1: we're all centered on him and the Jaguars, and it
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Speaker 1: As I'm driving home yesterday. I'm thinking this could really
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Speaker 1: be this could be big. It's a good thing. There's
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Speaker 1: still a little less than a month of the draft.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens on April twenty nine. Season ticket
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Speaker 1: three three two thousand Jaguars reporters rolls along with did
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Speaker 1: you Hear This? Sits from the ozone podcast last week
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Speaker 1: with NBC Sports NFL insider Peter King giving his initial
16:57
Speaker 1: impressions of head coach Urban Meyer. The biggest takeaway is that, uh,
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Speaker 1: he's got a plan. And as you've noticed, John, I'm
17:06
Speaker 1: sure you've been around him now enough to know that
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Speaker 1: he's he's got a plan. He's he's very much drilled
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Speaker 1: down to um the smallest things that you have to
17:19
Speaker 1: worry about. You know, I once heard one of the
17:23
Speaker 1: Patriots say about Bill Belichick, you know, I want I
17:28
Speaker 1: once said, man, it's so it must be so difficult
17:32
Speaker 1: to play for Bill all the time. Must be great
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Speaker 1: in some ways, but difficult, and he goes the greatest
17:41
Speaker 1: part about playing for Bill Belichick is that when I
17:44
Speaker 1: walk into training camp every year, I feel like everybody
17:48
Speaker 1: else in the NFL is starting at the goal line
17:51
Speaker 1: and we're starting at the forty yard line. You know,
17:54
Speaker 1: like we got a forty yard head start on everybody
17:57
Speaker 1: else in football. And and I think one of the
18:02
Speaker 1: things that you've noticed with Urban Meyer as he's gone
18:06
Speaker 1: gone in his career, he didn't have a lot of
18:12
Speaker 1: ramp up time when you think about it. And it's
18:16
Speaker 1: easy to hit the ground running and to win ten
18:19
Speaker 1: games in Columbus, Ohio in Gainesville, Florida. But you know,
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Speaker 1: his first job, he took over a losing team with
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Speaker 1: a losing ethos at Bowling Green and they won right away.
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Speaker 1: And they won pretty much right away too, And you taught.
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Speaker 1: And so I think, honestly that that is the biggest
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Speaker 1: takeaway I had that he's just he's got answers for everything,
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Speaker 1: and again we'll have to see if those answers are
18:52
Speaker 1: all the right answers. And he certainly does have. I
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Speaker 1: can see very much. One of the things when I
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Speaker 1: was talking to Jimmy john Unsen, I don't know, maybe
19:01
Speaker 1: a month ago about Urban or maybe even longer than
19:04
Speaker 1: that before he took the job. One of the things
19:08
Speaker 1: that Jimmy said, basically is that, hey, Urban is not stupid.
19:13
Speaker 1: Urban sees the opportunity in Jacksonville and John when you
19:19
Speaker 1: think about it, even though the Jaguars arguably were the
19:22
Speaker 1: worst team in football last year and their record showed it. Um,
19:27
Speaker 1: how often do you get advantages like taking a true
19:32
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback with the first pick, like having more cap
19:36
Speaker 1: room than anybody in the NFL. Uh and uh having
19:41
Speaker 1: sort of a blank slate uh that urban Meyer has
19:47
Speaker 1: because Shad Khan has given that to him. So he's
19:51
Speaker 1: got a really good opportunity in Jacksonville. And I found
19:54
Speaker 1: it fascinating that, I guess not you know, mind blowing,
19:58
Speaker 1: but it's Peter King had never talked to urban Meyer before,
20:01
Speaker 1: and I guess that kind of makes sense. You know,
20:03
Speaker 1: Peter is not covering college football too much. They're running
20:06
Speaker 1: in different circles. But it's the first first meeting I
20:09
Speaker 1: think of many between those two Urbans has been a
20:12
Speaker 1: college guy, Peters the ultimate NFL guy. I thought what
20:17
Speaker 1: was most interesting about what Peter said was um the
20:22
Speaker 1: plan that Urban has. When or when Peter first heard
20:28
Speaker 1: that Urban is gonna be the coach, he had a
20:30
Speaker 1: lot of the same Wait a minute, this is the
20:33
Speaker 1: college guy coming in. How much sense does this make?
20:37
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be ready for this? Uh? And I
20:39
Speaker 1: think he has been struck by what all of us
20:43
Speaker 1: have been struck by. That the readiness and the overall
20:52
Speaker 1: willingness to learn about the NFL and be transparent in
20:56
Speaker 1: that transition that Urban has been. To me, that's been
20:59
Speaker 1: the most striking thing the last month or two is
21:01
Speaker 1: that Urban Meyer has been willing to talk about what
21:07
Speaker 1: he's learning. And that strikes me as a key thing
21:13
Speaker 1: because he's not coming in and acting like he knows
21:18
Speaker 1: better than the NFL. You know, you guys know what
21:21
Speaker 1: I'm getting at. He understands that there is a game
21:26
Speaker 1: to be learned here and that he has to work
21:29
Speaker 1: to learn it. I think that bodes well because every
21:32
Speaker 1: other place that he's been, as Peter alluded to in
21:34
Speaker 1: the podcast, he is one and one quickly bowling green
21:39
Speaker 1: at Utah Peter made the point it's sort of easy
21:42
Speaker 1: to come in and you know, win at Ohio State
21:44
Speaker 1: in Florida, he won in tough situations, and the upshot
21:48
Speaker 1: of Peter's podcast to me was he thinks a lot
21:51
Speaker 1: of Urban's approach will allow him to come in and
21:55
Speaker 1: do the same thing in the NFL. I think he
21:57
Speaker 1: was more optimistic after talking to Urban about the Jaguars
22:00
Speaker 1: chances than he was before talking to Urban. You know,
22:02
Speaker 1: I don't remember last year there being that many questions
22:05
Speaker 1: about Matt Rule, and I know that Rule had some
22:07
Speaker 1: time with the Giants. UM to me, well, he's not
22:11
Speaker 1: as polarized Urban's polar And That's where I'm going with
22:14
Speaker 1: this is that Meyer is in many ways a rock
22:17
Speaker 1: star in his own in his own right, you know,
22:19
Speaker 1: three national championships and two of the biggest programs in
22:22
Speaker 1: this country at the time on Fox. UM. There's a
22:26
Speaker 1: lot of folks that aren't big fans of Urban either,
22:29
Speaker 1: but he has the most interesting dynamic. I mean, Brian,
22:35
Speaker 1: let's face it, most fans who aren't Jaguars fans want
22:39
Speaker 1: a hater. Most fans who aren't Jaguars fans sort of
22:42
Speaker 1: want to love Trevor. He's a lovable kid. So you've
22:45
Speaker 1: sort of got a different dynamic there, And I think
22:47
Speaker 1: Urban kind of likes sometimes being the guy that everybody like.
22:51
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't mind that villain role. He didn't
22:53
Speaker 1: really care about it that much. I guess what I'm saying.
22:55
Speaker 1: But you sort of got a different dynamic of boy,
22:59
Speaker 1: we love Trevor. Oh boy, I want to hate Irvan,
23:02
Speaker 1: but I kind of like the jet. Yeah. I think
23:03
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun. Right There you have it and
23:06
Speaker 1: check out the ozone podcast from last week. Peter King
23:09
Speaker 1: with John Osier, JP Shaddick, Brian Sexton, John Osier, Ashlan
23:13
Speaker 1: Sullivan is out this week. Let's get now to everyone
23:17
Speaker 1: asks where we all you know, ask a question and
23:20
Speaker 1: we all answer question. I'll start with this one, the
23:25
Speaker 1: best playing rule proposal for one coming up soon. The
23:30
Speaker 1: owners will vote on eleven twelve thirteen different rule change proposals.
23:35
Speaker 1: So for me, the best one is permitting the replay
23:39
Speaker 1: official and designated members of the Officiating Department to provide
23:43
Speaker 1: certain objective information to the on field officials. Now, this
23:46
Speaker 1: is different from the sky Judge thing where they have
23:49
Speaker 1: full autonomy, which is also one of the proposals this year,
23:52
Speaker 1: but they can help with non judgment calls in and
23:55
Speaker 1: out of bounds, catch, no catch. I'm not a fan
23:57
Speaker 1: of taking every call away from on field officials. I
24:02
Speaker 1: also don't want robots calling balls and strikes and baseball
24:05
Speaker 1: that's a different sport altogether. I'm still of the maybe
24:09
Speaker 1: I'm old school, but human error is a part of
24:12
Speaker 1: sports five World Series. Don Denkinger Game six first, das
24:18
Speaker 1: Dane Org Right. Um, you go back and you look
24:21
Speaker 1: at the tape and he's out and and the Cardinals
24:25
Speaker 1: win this with the World Series. In Game six he
24:27
Speaker 1: was out, Um, and Denkonser screwed it up. The Cardinals
24:32
Speaker 1: melted down, The Royals went on to win the series. Right,
24:34
Speaker 1: Um didn't end the world right? I mean St. Louis
24:37
Speaker 1: would go on to win a couple more championships. Um.
24:40
Speaker 1: That That to me was the ultimate human error. And
24:43
Speaker 1: we all live with it. Now, there's outrage about it.
24:46
Speaker 1: With social media, the outrage grows and it it never dies.
24:50
Speaker 1: I'd hate to think about what Don Denkinger's life might
24:52
Speaker 1: have been like if there had been a Twitter or
24:54
Speaker 1: in a social media asked Bill Buckner what his life
24:58
Speaker 1: it's part of the human ex experience that there is
25:00
Speaker 1: up and down in mistake. I you you know, well,
25:05
Speaker 1: how about how about the Saints, right, I mean the
25:08
Speaker 1: play two years ago with Nickel Robie coleman us inference. Yeah,
25:12
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, okay, I mean it's but the world
25:14
Speaker 1: kept moving. They changed the rule for a year though,
25:18
Speaker 1: but the Saints have still been a they were a
25:20
Speaker 1: championship caliber program. The world kept spinning. Um. I like
25:24
Speaker 1: a little bit of it. I don't like. I think
25:26
Speaker 1: we have to have the human element in it. And
25:28
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me at all. We all live with it.
25:30
Speaker 1: It's sport, it's the toy department. Let's move on. They're
25:33
Speaker 1: trying to make this like a video game where there
25:35
Speaker 1: is no mistake at all and no one has to
25:38
Speaker 1: deal with any tragedy or or heartbreak in the game.
25:41
Speaker 1: It happens as the poor kids at u c l
25:45
Speaker 1: A right with the shot that went in. I mean,
25:48
Speaker 1: they think they're going to do to two overtimes, and
25:50
Speaker 1: then that kid hits that miracle shot and they live
25:53
Speaker 1: with it. You go on that that's what makes sports
25:56
Speaker 1: so compelling is that you could lose. We think, John,
25:59
Speaker 1: I've really don't like j K numbers thing. Oh I'm
26:04
Speaker 1: kind of with you on this, but go ahead, get
26:07
Speaker 1: off my lawn, Brian. You like the tradition have a number.
26:13
Speaker 1: You don't need dbs wearing eleven. You don't need dvs
26:19
Speaker 1: wearing eight. Where twenty two? Uh? Within out right, fine,
26:28
Speaker 1: that's fine. They put these in a long time ago
26:31
Speaker 1: for a reason so that people watching the game, if
26:35
Speaker 1: if they didn't necessarily know the player's name on the back,
26:40
Speaker 1: you could see. But if a guy was wearing fifty
26:42
Speaker 1: fifty nine or what he was a linebacker, that's fine.
26:49
Speaker 1: You don't need to go with it. I don't need
26:51
Speaker 1: my quarterback. We're in just I don't think you can obviously,
26:55
Speaker 1: but no, have them pick a number, stay in the lane.
27:00
Speaker 1: It's fine. I guess the issue that the Chiefs brought
27:02
Speaker 1: this up because they had so many players play last
27:06
Speaker 1: year that they were out of numbers for defensive backs.
27:10
Speaker 1: So I think they had to get the league to say, hey,
27:13
Speaker 1: you can have a number that's out of place. So
27:15
Speaker 1: their proposal is to expand the roster the numbers. Anyway,
27:20
Speaker 1: Jusillery like, Okay, if you've run out of numbers, then
27:24
Speaker 1: you can go into this other area. I think that's
27:26
Speaker 1: what happened last year. Why don't you just make that
27:28
Speaker 1: the rule. That's fine now and keep zero out of
27:32
Speaker 1: the game. Please? They put that in college football. That's
27:34
Speaker 1: just the thing. I know. Moto wore double zero. Okay,
27:39
Speaker 1: I like the double zero. I guess I'd leave that retired,
27:41
Speaker 1: just because those only two guys that can think of
27:43
Speaker 1: it were on a regular basis. What number did George
27:46
Speaker 1: blandawar when he was forty six years old word all
27:49
Speaker 1: the way through? Huh? I wish I cared enough about it.
27:52
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I just alright, we're a number.
27:56
Speaker 1: Life goes on, some sun will rise in the east.
27:58
Speaker 1: Brian asked us something. Well, uh, you know, last week
28:03
Speaker 1: when there was that that human cry out of out
28:06
Speaker 1: of Washington with the CDC and the President talking about
28:08
Speaker 1: you know, keep wearing masks and and and states should
28:11
Speaker 1: go back to it, I thought, are we gonna stay virtual?
28:14
Speaker 1: Um Our, what we do for a living is based
28:17
Speaker 1: on relationships, and relationships aren't formed in a virtual world.
28:22
Speaker 1: You just you can't. And I had a guy um
28:25
Speaker 1: at the gym over the weekend say to me, or
28:28
Speaker 1: last week, say to me Hey, I you know I
28:30
Speaker 1: met Jay Gruden And I said, well, I never did
28:32
Speaker 1: get to meet Jake Gruden, right because we were in
28:35
Speaker 1: quarantine when he arrived, and I only met him virtually, right,
28:39
Speaker 1: and the guys really and he said, it's hard to
28:41
Speaker 1: do your job when it absolutely And that's my point is,
28:45
Speaker 1: if we're staying virtual, it has a dramatic impact. I
28:48
Speaker 1: haven't met Urban Mari yet, right. I know a couple
28:51
Speaker 1: of coaches, so I've seen a couple of the coaches.
28:54
Speaker 1: But this whole business is based on human interaction, kind
28:57
Speaker 1: of like we're talking earlier, the human error side if
29:00
Speaker 1: things with sport um. It's the relationships that make this
29:03
Speaker 1: a rich business to get into and stay and you
29:05
Speaker 1: know people they're here and they move on, and you
29:08
Speaker 1: can pick up the phone and call someone in Minnesota
29:10
Speaker 1: or Los Angeles and get a perspective on what's going
29:13
Speaker 1: on in Jacksonville. And and I have I have long
29:17
Speaker 1: held to the relationships that I've made in twenty eight
29:19
Speaker 1: years of doing this. Just walked in this morning and
29:22
Speaker 1: there's a j can you know who I hadn't seen anyway.
29:24
Speaker 1: He goes, hey, Brian, you know he's in his truck,
29:27
Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's a guy that I like. I've
29:29
Speaker 1: told his story. I know about his sister and his
29:31
Speaker 1: dad and his affinity for cats, but that by spending
29:36
Speaker 1: time with him in the locker room, and I exactly,
29:41
Speaker 1: And I keep hearing that the locker room is going
29:43
Speaker 1: to be closed in one I don't know if they
29:45
Speaker 1: know that yet, but I guess what I'm saying is,
29:47
Speaker 1: how do you guys feel about how this changes the
29:50
Speaker 1: way that you do your jobs? Uh, it's not good.
29:54
Speaker 1: I mean, in the short term, the way I do
29:58
Speaker 1: my job. Anyway you guys do your job. You can
30:02
Speaker 1: get through it. You can do a job. You can
30:07
Speaker 1: provide some insight to the fans, you can give them content.
30:11
Speaker 1: I can get a sound bite out of what we have.
30:13
Speaker 1: But it's certainly not as uh, it's certainly not as rich.
30:19
Speaker 1: I mean, I told I had a own podcast with
30:23
Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil this week, and we conducted it last Thursday,
30:27
Speaker 1: and and Darryl is really good in interviews. But I
30:31
Speaker 1: kind of told him before and after and we both
30:34
Speaker 1: kind of laughed about it. I was like, Hey, I
30:36
Speaker 1: appreciate you doing this, but it's still a weird time
30:39
Speaker 1: because he's here. I've talked to him once face to face.
30:43
Speaker 1: Ordinarily i'd have been doing that oz own podcast either
30:45
Speaker 1: sitting here or you know, probably here, but we'd have
30:49
Speaker 1: had five or ten minutes beforehand to sit and talk
30:52
Speaker 1: face to face and I get to know each other
30:54
Speaker 1: a little bit. Good for me, bad for him on
30:56
Speaker 1: that level. But overall that's a or a way of
31:00
Speaker 1: doing business. You can get through it. But I think
31:03
Speaker 1: we bring a better product to the fans when we're
31:05
Speaker 1: face to face with people. Good question. Well, I think
31:08
Speaker 1: you'd agree, Thank you. I think you'd agree that whatever
31:12
Speaker 1: whoever is listening to this, whatever you do for a living,
31:14
Speaker 1: when you get up every morning, you want to do
31:16
Speaker 1: your best, right. You want to bring the best JP
31:20
Speaker 1: in here to do this, just like John does. Well maybe,
31:23
Speaker 1: but you know Bob who's listening, who is a plumber,
31:26
Speaker 1: wants to do his best. Everyone does. It's frustrating when
31:29
Speaker 1: you feel like you could do better, and and and
31:32
Speaker 1: for you and I. In the broadcast medium, especially with
31:35
Speaker 1: the microphone off. It's not quite the same for the
31:37
Speaker 1: writers because they're you know, the mics are always off.
31:39
Speaker 1: But you can grab a guy off to the side
31:41
Speaker 1: and ask for a little perspective. A j many times
31:44
Speaker 1: has told me, hey, you know, the offensive line didn't
31:46
Speaker 1: play as bad as people are saying, and here's why.
31:49
Speaker 1: And I'd say to him, hey, can I use that?
31:51
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, you can use it. Right, But
31:53
Speaker 1: if the microphone's on, he's thinking about every word he says,
31:56
Speaker 1: because in the social media world, nothing ever dies. Will
31:59
Speaker 1: you get a player who is going to give you
32:00
Speaker 1: something honest and truthful that you wouldn't get in a
32:04
Speaker 1: group setting. I missed that. I missed the ability to
32:08
Speaker 1: get to know someone that's important to me. John, will
32:12
Speaker 1: you take us on home with everyone asked today? I'm
32:15
Speaker 1: looking forward to this, by the way, into the microphone
32:18
Speaker 1: of gonzagas shot um and it could be Jaguars or
32:23
Speaker 1: otherwise or both. What's the best finished to a game
32:27
Speaker 1: that you've ever covered? J P Man, This is this
32:30
Speaker 1: is a tough one. I had to think about this.
32:32
Speaker 1: There's been so many games in different the first is
32:35
Speaker 1: there a Jaguars game that you consider well to cover?
32:41
Speaker 1: You know, the it takes a lot, It's got to
32:45
Speaker 1: be a great finish, you know. It wasn't like coming
32:53
Speaker 1: down to field goals every week. You know, they were
32:55
Speaker 1: winning games, um the way the Steelers playoff game and
33:00
Speaker 1: was kind of tight at the end. It wasn't like
33:02
Speaker 1: a field goal at the end, So that that might
33:04
Speaker 1: be the closest one since I've worked here. I think
33:06
Speaker 1: that you're the only one I think i've since you've
33:08
Speaker 1: been here. Is the Cecil Shorts play against Indy. Yeah,
33:11
Speaker 1: sort of felt like a finish and then they had
33:13
Speaker 1: to bat away a hail Mary at the end of
33:15
Speaker 1: that finished, but it was closed. Yeah, I mean they
33:18
Speaker 1: scored within two minutes to go and basically and then
33:22
Speaker 1: that that's probably right there too. And then there was
33:24
Speaker 1: Week one of that season as well in Minneapolis, Jaguars
33:28
Speaker 1: score a touchdown Gabta Shorts and then they had a
33:32
Speaker 1: field goal to go over time and then hit another
33:34
Speaker 1: field goal and that was Adrian Peterson's first game back.
33:37
Speaker 1: It's probably a good one. But I'm going to go
33:38
Speaker 1: back to my college days working with CBS Sports. I
33:41
Speaker 1: was a spotter in the booth for a number of
33:43
Speaker 1: years for Vernon Alonquist and we did so many big
33:46
Speaker 1: time games, right, So just it was the game of
33:48
Speaker 1: the week, I was thinking about it and I had
33:52
Speaker 1: to go back to two thousand and six, and this
33:55
Speaker 1: is at War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock, Arkansas, the
33:58
Speaker 1: day after Thanksgiving. LS you number nine, Arkansas number five,
34:03
Speaker 1: and there were three. It's the fourth quarter and there
34:06
Speaker 1: were three touchdowns scored in a forty five second span
34:09
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. JaMarcus Russell to early do set
34:13
Speaker 1: for a score. Then the ensuing drive Darren McFadden in
34:17
Speaker 1: the wild Hog goes eighty yards for the first play touchdown,
34:21
Speaker 1: ensuing kickoff trendon holiday ninety two yard touchdown return for
34:25
Speaker 1: l s U. That ensuing kickoff Felix Jones goes sixty
34:29
Speaker 1: two yards and gets caught from behind and later scores
34:31
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Arkansas was like, that was the most exciting
34:34
Speaker 1: five minutes of football I think I've ever seen. And
34:37
Speaker 1: they were still down by five. They never got over
34:39
Speaker 1: the top, and um, you know LSU ended up winning
34:44
Speaker 1: that game, but it was like bedlam at War Memorial Stadium,
34:47
Speaker 1: fifty five thousand people. That that was and then oh
34:50
Speaker 1: seven Florida L s U. I could go on and on,
34:52
Speaker 1: but that that was the one I picked out just immediately.
34:55
Speaker 1: We think, so, um, A couple of thoughts for the
34:59
Speaker 1: Jaguars I mean ninety six, Morton's miss was a dramatic
35:03
Speaker 1: ending because you know, the Jaguars said they had won
35:05
Speaker 1: four in a row and they needed to beat the Falcons,
35:07
Speaker 1: the lowly Falcons, right, And they came in with three
35:10
Speaker 1: wins on the season, and and it was Bobby a
35:12
Speaker 1: Bear and they were just dragging their butt up and
35:14
Speaker 1: down the field. But they they had Ironhead Hayward as
35:17
Speaker 1: the running back and he was pounding the Jaguars that day,
35:19
Speaker 1: and they were on the verge of losing. And and
35:21
Speaker 1: we knew because Kansas City had lost that if the
35:24
Speaker 1: Jaguars would win that game, they were going into the playoffs,
35:28
Speaker 1: you know. And and from four and seven to the playoffs,
35:30
Speaker 1: I mean, the city was just it was it was.
35:32
Speaker 1: It was tinder ready to be lit. And Morton Mrs.
35:34
Speaker 1: In the city went nuts. And of course everyone remembers
35:37
Speaker 1: that that well, if you don't look it up, that
35:39
Speaker 1: the playoff front in ninety six um into a two
35:41
Speaker 1: thousand ten. We had Scobee with the fifty nine yard
35:45
Speaker 1: field goal to beat the Colts, and that was dramatic.
35:48
Speaker 1: And a little bit later that season, you had David
35:51
Speaker 1: Garrard throwing to Mike Thomas. Yeah right, um, and that
35:56
Speaker 1: was still remember that. It believable walker it back. Hey, yeah,
36:09
Speaker 1: my mom heard that and she thought I actually said that.
36:12
Speaker 1: I called Golic and Greenberg and gave it to him
36:14
Speaker 1: on that one. That was fun though. Um, those were
36:16
Speaker 1: great moments in Jaguars history, you know, because it was
36:19
Speaker 1: basketball and I watched it on Saturday night. It took
36:22
Speaker 1: me back to the East Regional final in You remember
36:26
Speaker 1: Scottie Barrell, who at the time was the first man
36:28
Speaker 1: to ever be drafted in the first round of two
36:31
Speaker 1: major sports because he was drafted from Major League Baseball
36:34
Speaker 1: as well as in the NBA, and Clemson had him
36:37
Speaker 1: on the ropes. I mean there's one second left and
36:39
Speaker 1: Clemson had hit a shot, and so Barrell threw a
36:42
Speaker 1: court link paths I mean literally the length of the
36:45
Speaker 1: courts to take George, who caught it facing the sideline,
36:50
Speaker 1: turned and just threw up a blind three point shot
36:52
Speaker 1: to win. And until this shot on Saturday night, that
36:57
Speaker 1: play tate George's three point shot at the end of
37:00
Speaker 1: that game to be Clemson in was look it up, folks,
37:04
Speaker 1: because of YouTube, you can enjoy it again. It was
37:07
Speaker 1: It was to me it was more dramatic because you
37:08
Speaker 1: had to go the length of the Courton one freaking second.
37:11
Speaker 1: They had three point three seconds on Saturday Night, John,
37:13
Speaker 1: what's yours? I'm gonna amend mine, but go ahead. Um well,
37:17
Speaker 1: Jaguars wise. For some reason, when I was thinking about this,
37:22
Speaker 1: I guess I assumed Morton's missed so much that I
37:26
Speaker 1: still go back to the Bill Cower play. It was
37:29
Speaker 1: week three and nine. Yeah, there was something about that finish.
37:33
Speaker 1: There was somehow more exciting than the Morton miss, maybe
37:37
Speaker 1: because it was the Morton miss was a miss. Certainly
37:40
Speaker 1: the Morton was the most meaningful finished, but the most
37:45
Speaker 1: bizarre finished was seeing the block kick and then Chris
37:48
Speaker 1: you know, uh so that's in there for me. Um.
37:51
Speaker 1: Overall the best finish I ever covered, uh first year
37:55
Speaker 1: covering the University of Florida, this is uh any warful
38:00
Speaker 1: to Chris Doring with three seconds left beats Kentucky at
38:03
Speaker 1: Kentucky in a game that it was a different era.
38:08
Speaker 1: Then it was broadcast locally here on SEC television, but
38:13
Speaker 1: now that game would be seen by pretty much everybody. Um,
38:18
Speaker 1: a Gator fan saw it. But it was really the
38:23
Speaker 1: first game of Danny Warfel being Danny Warfel, and they
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Speaker 1: had trailed. I think they had thrown seven interceptions in
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Speaker 1: the game, Florida, and then I war Full hit Storing
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Speaker 1: with like a thirty five yard touchdown past with three
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Speaker 1: seconds left, and it made Mick Huber's career and the
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Speaker 1: whole thing. So that's the most memorable finish of any
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Speaker 1: game I've ever covered. But I would go with Chris
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Speaker 1: Hudson for Jaguars. I'm amending mine, and I'm going back
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Speaker 1: to the Florida LSU rivalry. I mentioned it earlier. Seven
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Speaker 1: l s u um was number one in the country,
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Speaker 1: Florida's number nine. They had lost the week before in
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Speaker 1: Florida led by ten three different times in the game,
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Speaker 1: including going to the fourth quarter. L s U was
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Speaker 1: five for five on fourth down conversions in the game.
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Speaker 1: Jacob Hester scored on a two yard touchdown run with
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Speaker 1: just over a minute left. Place erupts. It's prime time CBS,
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Speaker 1: huge game. And that was the Tebow cell phone game.
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Speaker 1: They had gotten Tebow cellphone that week. L s U people,
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Speaker 1: so he had scored, he had a huge game. All
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Speaker 1: that happened in the same game. But this year, the
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Speaker 1: fog Bowl L s U at number six Florida. I
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Speaker 1: called the game on touchdown radio. You couldn't see the
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Speaker 1: right end zone. And L s U kicked a field
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Speaker 1: goal fifty seven yarder to take the lead with thirty
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Speaker 1: seconds left. And then McPherson missed one for Florida with
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Speaker 1: no time left from one and that was and and
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Speaker 1: there was a shoe thrown in the game. Marca Wilson
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Speaker 1: threw the shoe on the field goal drive for L
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Speaker 1: s U. They got an unsports and light kept the
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Speaker 1: drive alive. They ended up winning the game. That's probably it.
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Speaker 1: I amended mine. And so apparently you weren't at the
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Speaker 1: kick six game. I was not. I was in my
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Speaker 1: apartment in Riverside in disbelief. That is that there's not
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Speaker 1: gonna be one that that beats. It brings to mind
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Speaker 1: something you're old enough to have watched, and as an enthusiast,
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Speaker 1: you're old enough to know the great Jim McKay and
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Speaker 1: the wide world of sports on Saturday afternoons, the thrill
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Speaker 1: of victory in the agony of defeat. It's the human condition. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I always remember that, the guy falling down the hill,
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Speaker 1: the agony of the thrill of victory and the agony
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