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The Ron Verb Show - 3pm Hour Monday - 07/27/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Ron Verb on News Radio 570 WKBN. On a good-looking
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  Speaker 1: Monday afternoon, News Radio 570, WQEN and Ron Verp. It's
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  Speaker 1: 87 degrees, a little bit on the hot and humid
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  Speaker 1: side today, but we'll make the best of it. Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday, July 27th. We'll be with you until we
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  Speaker 1: solve the world's problems, as we always do. Top secret number, 330-729-9977.
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  Speaker 2: 330-729-9977.
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  Speaker 1: Programming notes. Ah, yes, programming notes. I'm going to take
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  Speaker 1: Friday off. Actually, I'm going to take Friday and Monday off.
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have a long weekend. How about that?
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  Speaker 1: So we'll be with you Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday
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  Speaker 1: this week. Friday, we're going to take a day off.
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  Speaker 1: And Monday, we're going to take a day off. And
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  Speaker 1: then we'll be back on Tuesday. Just a programming notes
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  Speaker 1: on 570. So keep that in mind. And we start.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to our phone lines. And I'm always curious
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  Speaker 1: what seems to be. Race it up the flagpole. See
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  Speaker 1: if anyone salutes. Rich, hello.
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  Speaker 3: Ron, good afternoon, sir. How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 1: It was great. Too short, as they like to say.
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  Speaker 1: They just seem to go by so fast. They really do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately. Life goes by too fast, if you think
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 1: My wife and I went out to dinner Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: with some friends, and it was just a wonderful time.
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  Speaker 1: It was absolutely a wonderful time. We had just a
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  Speaker 1: terrific meal and a terrific time. So that makes life
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  Speaker 1: worth living, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: Amen. We had most of the family over yesterday, had dinner,
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  Speaker 3: did a little swimming. It was a great, great day.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Thank God you're alive and healthy. That's all that matters.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy life.
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  Speaker 3: We take it for granted because you just never know
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  Speaker 3: when the guy upstairs is going to pull your number.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Incidentally, it has nothing to do with anything other
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  Speaker 1: than I just tell you. Folks, I've gone through all
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  Speaker 1: my life without taking many prescriptions at all. I take
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  Speaker 1: Singular for asthma and allergies and that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great drug. I don't know. It's generic for Singular.
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  Speaker 1: And I just recently went on the lowest dose possible
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  Speaker 1: of Crestor, folks. It looks like a dot. The pill
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  Speaker 1: is so small. Just to bring everything in line. And
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  Speaker 1: it works phenomenal. I mean, the pill is so tiny, Mr. Pharmacist.
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  Speaker 1: It's unreal. I mean, it's... But it works wonders. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's the lowest possible dose. And I was telling Rich,
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  Speaker 1: the pharmacist, I just started taking– now, this is it.
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  Speaker 1: As you get older, you start taking more stuff. What? Metformin.
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  Speaker 1: After I talk with Rich and everything like that. And
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  Speaker 1: it actually has a lot of positive things about it.
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  Speaker 1: So I started taking my Metformin, Rich, after I talked
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  Speaker 1: to you. After I talked to you, not after I
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  Speaker 1: talked to my doctor and everything. I talked to Rich,
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  Speaker 1: the pharmacist, and said, okay, that's cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're being proactive, which is what you should be. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: most people are. Most people wait until they have the
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  Speaker 3: heart attack or their diabetes is out of control, their
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  Speaker 3: A1C is 8, 9, 10 or higher when it should
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  Speaker 3: be under 6. And if you're proactive and you start
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  Speaker 3: taking stuff, we can put off, we can modify disease states.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot we can do. compared to when our
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  Speaker 3: parents were our age.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I found interesting, and true or false,
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  Speaker 1: metformin was actually used for something else before they used
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  Speaker 1: it for lowering your A1C, if you will. And mine
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  Speaker 1: is just slightly elevated. But it was actually used for malaria.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that? I was unaware of that.
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  Speaker 3: They used it for malaria. I actually did not. Glucophage
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  Speaker 3: was the brand name of that. And that came out,
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  Speaker 3: I graduated in 91 from pharmacy school. That probably came
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  Speaker 3: out around 94, 95 in this country. It was probably
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  Speaker 3: out before that. But it was just old, it was
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  Speaker 3: just new enough that we never studied it when I
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  Speaker 3: was in pharmacy school.
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  Speaker 1: Metformin?
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  Speaker 3: It's a unique drug. It's the only drug of its kind.
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  Speaker 3: It has no competition. There's nothing else like metformin. It
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  Speaker 3: lowers insulin resistance. It's a great drug. and it pushes
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  Speaker 3: back if you're pre-diabetic. For anybody out there that has
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  Speaker 3: pre-diabetes or metabolic syndrome, you should probably be on Metformin
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  Speaker 3: 500 once or twice a day to start just because
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  Speaker 3: it will push back the onset of diabetes. It'll push
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  Speaker 3: back the progression of the metabolic syndrome. It's a great drug.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of great drugs out there, and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them now are generic and they're cheap.
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  Speaker 1: It is really something how inexpensive..
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  Speaker 3: They are.
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  Speaker 1: Like, Crestor used to be really expensive.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, when it was brand, yeah. Yeah, once it goes generic.
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  Speaker 3: But you could probably buy a whole year's supply. If
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  Speaker 3: you had your doctor rate you for, say, 350 or
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  Speaker 3: 400 tablets of Crestor, 10 milligrams, whatever you're on, 5 milligram,
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  Speaker 3: 10 milligram, and you brought it in and we put
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  Speaker 3: it on GoodRx, you're probably looking at, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: 40 bucks for the whole year.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing?
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  Speaker 3: 50 at the most. Yeah, same thing. Metformin's the same way.
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  Speaker 3: There's so many. Anything that's generic, typically. or I'd say 98%
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  Speaker 3: of what's out there generic is very inexpensive.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, though, there's something that's worked for allergies,
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever had allergies, pollen or whatever the case is,
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  Speaker 1: or cat fur and that kind of stuff. And that's
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  Speaker 1: how I got on monoglucose or whatever. Yeah, singular is
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  Speaker 1: basically it's. And I have two cats. I remember going
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  Speaker 1: to the Northside Hospital. I got this test, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I was allergic to cat dander and cat stuff
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  Speaker 1: and this kind of stuff. You know, they do those tests.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of cool, actually. But so then I got
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  Speaker 1: on singular. This is several years ago. And boy, it's
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  Speaker 1: it was it's done wonders. And it's it seemed to
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  Speaker 1: take care of any type of allergies you might have
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  Speaker 1: as far as. Pollen and that kind of stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: no side effects on that at all. But I've been
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  Speaker 1: on that for a while. And then I just recently
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  Speaker 1: went on that. I mean, you know how tiny that
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  Speaker 1: pill is.
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  Speaker 3: It's Crestor. It's like a pinprick.
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  Speaker 1: It's like five milligrams. It's the lowest dose. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's five milligrams. But it's absolutely amazing what that does
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  Speaker 1: as far as your numbers are concerned. I mean, with
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  Speaker 1: that tiny, tiny, tiny bit of... of a pill.
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  Speaker 3: It's the most, out of all the statins that are
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  Speaker 3: out there, and there's probably a dozen of them if
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  Speaker 3: we added them all up, it's the most potent. On
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  Speaker 3: a milligram per milligram basis, you get the best cholesterol
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  Speaker 3: lowering with Crestor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I stopped, folks, I stopped drinking pop
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  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, sugar and that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. And my sugar was just slightly out. I'm
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  Speaker 1: right at the, I'm on the borderline, to quote Madonna,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the borderline. And they said, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it just ticked up slightly. It's, you know, still below six,
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  Speaker 1: but it should be maybe a little bit lower than
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And so they put me on
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  Speaker 1: the lowest dose of metformin. And before I took it,
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  Speaker 1: a true story, who did I call and who did
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  Speaker 1: I ask about? This guy right here who explained it
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  Speaker 1: all to me. And then I looked. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of positive things that it does outside of what it's
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  Speaker 1: prescribed for. I mean, it's really something. So I just
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  Speaker 1: thought I'd let you know. I listen to you. I
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  Speaker 1: listen to you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's nice somebody does.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people do. But that's enough. That's about
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  Speaker 1: all I should take because I'm healthy for the most part.
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  Speaker 1: I'm honestly blessed at this point that I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to take a bunch of prescription stuff. But this stuff
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  Speaker 1: is more preventative, I would say, than anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah. And like I said, you've got the beginning
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  Speaker 3: stages of what they refer to as metabolic syndrome. Which
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  Speaker 3: probably 70-80% of Americans do. It's just part of getting
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  Speaker 3: old and having the diet and the habits that we
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  Speaker 3: have in this country. It just develops. And if you
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  Speaker 3: don't treat it, and if you're not proactive with it,
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  Speaker 3: it will eventually, over time, become diabetes. Type 2 diabetes.
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  Speaker 1: How does that GoodRx card even work that you were
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  Speaker 1: talking about? So many people say, well, if you put
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  Speaker 1: it on GoodRx or whatever, the price comes down. Why
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  Speaker 1: is that? I mean, it's not a prescription card.
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  Speaker 3: You know how when you go to the doctor, let's
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  Speaker 3: say you have an office visit, and you get the statement,
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  Speaker 3: the explanation of benefits from your benefit provider, and the
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  Speaker 3: doctor billed $ 120 or $ 150 for the offices, and it
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  Speaker 3: says your cost is $ 65, and then they deduct your
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  Speaker 3: co-pay or whatever. If it's a preventative, it might be free.
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  Speaker 3: So it's the same thing with us. To maximize what
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  Speaker 3: we're getting on insurance, because insurance, almost nobody today doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have some type of insurance. When I first started, I
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  Speaker 3: worked for FarmWorks. That was my first job. And they
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  Speaker 3: catered at that time. Eighty percent of the people were
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  Speaker 3: paying cash. They had no insurance that picked up their
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  Speaker 3: prescriptions other than they could turn, and once you hit
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  Speaker 3: your deductible, your 80-20 deductible, you could turn in your
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  Speaker 3: prescription expenses and your insurance would reimburse you. 80% of
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  Speaker 3: the cost. But only 20% had a copay card where
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  Speaker 3: you came in and paid $ 5 or $ 10 or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So now it's the complete opposite. It's 95% of the
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  Speaker 3: people have some type of a copay prescription card. And
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  Speaker 3: so all the chains, everybody else, it's just like the
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  Speaker 3: healthcare industry, they charge an astronomical rack rate price for
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  Speaker 3: because they know they're only going to get reimbursed if
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  Speaker 3: the insurance wants to. So you're trying to do it
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  Speaker 3: to maximize your reimbursement. What GoodRx is basically doing is saying,
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  Speaker 3: you as a consumer who is paying cash and not
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  Speaker 3: using an insurance, we will give it to you for
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  Speaker 3: the same rate that we would buy it for Blue
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  Speaker 3: Cross Blue Shield or whoever, Anthem or whoever. So you're
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  Speaker 3: getting the insurance company's price is basically what it comes
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  Speaker 3: down to.
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  Speaker 1: And anybody can get a good RX card for free, right?
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  Speaker 3: Just go right online. Go to goodRX.com. You can put
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  Speaker 3: in your drug, your strength, the quantity you want. And
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  Speaker 3: I would tell people, if you're buying something on a
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  Speaker 3: good RX card, and you go to goodrx.com, you look
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  Speaker 3: at the quantity. At the very last one, there's something
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  Speaker 3: called custom quantity. You can put in whatever quantity you
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  Speaker 3: want if you click that. So I always do year supplies,
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  Speaker 3: and you will save a lot more if you buy
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  Speaker 3: a year at a time. Let's say you buy 90
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  Speaker 3: days or 100 days worth of Resuvastatin 5 that you're on.
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  Speaker 3: It might come up $ 12 or $ 15. But if you
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  Speaker 3: put in 400 tablets, it might only come up $ 35.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just so I'm on a lot of medicine, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 3: I ate myself into diabetes. But now you're skinny. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I worked hard at it. I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 3: it took me a long time to get to diabetes.
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  Speaker 3: I earned every bit of it. But, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I got on the GLP. I've been on four or
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  Speaker 3: five of the different GLPs since they came out. I'm
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  Speaker 3: on Mungero now. And they're phenomenal drugs. They are absolutely phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: One in ten people in this country, I just saw
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  Speaker 3: a stat, is now taking a GLP. And we should
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  Speaker 3: probably get it up to four or five people out
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  Speaker 3: of every ten in this country because it will change
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  Speaker 3: disease states. You will see people get healthier. You're going
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  Speaker 3: to see people that nobody in this country, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to say nobody, probably 95% of the people in
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  Speaker 3: this country that are fat or overweight Don't want to be.
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  Speaker 3: They would love to be skinnier, but just metabolically and
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  Speaker 3: with our diet and everything with our culture, it's very difficult.
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  Speaker 3: And I struggled with it since I was a young
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  Speaker 3: kid in elementary school. I started ballooning up after first grade.
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  Speaker 3: And nobody wants to. With the GLPs, it's almost impossible
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  Speaker 3: to be heavy after you start taking one. I think
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  Speaker 3: I've lost, my height I think was up to about 285.
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  Speaker 3: I'm down to around 215 now. And my numbers, my
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  Speaker 3: A1C is under six, my cholesterol, all of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the numbers are phenomenal. They're great drugs. I wish, they're
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  Speaker 3: stupid expensive, although Trump Rx and a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: stuff he's doing is bringing the cost down substantially over
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  Speaker 3: what it was because before that, If you wanted to
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  Speaker 3: buy them, even on a good or X card, because
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  Speaker 3: there's no generic, you were looking at $ 1, 300, $ 1, 400. Now
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  Speaker 3: with these new programs, these new bridge programs that the
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  Speaker 3: seniors are getting, because it's typically not, if you're not diabetic,
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  Speaker 3: they don't cover it for weight loss. But they've got
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  Speaker 3: that bridge program where I think you start out at
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  Speaker 3: around $ 150 a month, and the longer you stay on it,
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  Speaker 3: it progresses up, it might go up to $ 250 or
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  Speaker 3: $ 300 a month, which is still a decent amount of money.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're getting yourself healthier and your health's getting better,
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  Speaker 3: your weight is coming down, you're getting your diabetes under control,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably going to live longer, you're going to have
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  Speaker 3: a better quality of life. There's a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: out there now that the orthopedes are worried because if
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  Speaker 3: you start getting people in their 30s and 40s to
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  Speaker 3: lose all the weight, by the time they hit their
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  Speaker 3: late 50s and 60s, they're not going to need nearly
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  Speaker 3: as many hip replacements and knee replacements.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of long-term benefits to that class
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  Speaker 3: of drugs. But same thing with the cholesterol drugs. When
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  Speaker 3: they first came out, they were really expensive. Now they're cheap.
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  Speaker 3: They do a good job at arresting cardiac block, you know,
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  Speaker 3: development cardiac blockage development and things like that. They're not 100%,
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  Speaker 3: but it's been one of the only things we have
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  Speaker 3: that works really well. And they're cheap. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you can tolerate it, why not give yourself that advantage?
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  Speaker 1: I was reading where they said how expensive these– what
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  Speaker 1: the shots are that people are taking for– people who
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  Speaker 1: have type 2 diabetes, it's necessary for them. Then people
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  Speaker 1: started taking them because they were overweight. But they're saying
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  Speaker 1: it's expensive and– If Medicare would cover it, it could
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  Speaker 1: be the end of Medicare. But the price is coming down.
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  Speaker 1: But they also said there's the other side of it,
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  Speaker 1: that if more people got on them like you did,
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  Speaker 1: it might save Medicare because a lot of the procedures
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  Speaker 1: that people need wouldn't be necessary because their numbers would
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  Speaker 1: be in line. They would be healthier as they got older.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my one neighbor, I was talking to him, and
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  Speaker 3: he's an engineer, and he said he read an article
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  Speaker 3: that the airlines are actually– finding out that the average
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  Speaker 3: weight of their loads now has decreased because so many
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  Speaker 3: people have lost weight. The average weight of a passenger
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  Speaker 3: has gone down the last couple of years. So they're
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  Speaker 3: burning less fuel and things like that. And that's just
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  Speaker 3: an economic advantage. The health advantages to them are tremendous.
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  Speaker 3: For Pete, for the right person, if you're Tall and skinny,
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  Speaker 3: you don't need to be on a GLP. Right. But
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  Speaker 3: if your body mass index, your BMI, is over 30, 32,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to get tremendous health benefits from getting on
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  Speaker 3: one and dropping the weight and getting yourself in shape,
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  Speaker 3: especially if you start to exercise and combine it with
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  Speaker 3: exercise and modify your diet a little bit. It's almost
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  Speaker 3: hard not to modify your diet because you just don't
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  Speaker 3: want to eat. I took my shot, I think, it's
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  Speaker 3: once a week. I think I took mine Saturday. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think before 1 or 2 o'clock today I
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  Speaker 3: even ate anything. Really? Some water or stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: You're just not hungry. I never eat because I'm hungry.
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  Speaker 3: I only eat because maybe I want to eat.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Stand by.
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  Speaker 3: Hang on.
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  Speaker 1: Back with Rich, a pharmacist. Some of your calls ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Ron Verp, NewsRadio 570 WQEN. Transform your bathroom. Weather and
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  Speaker 1: talk station 570 WKBN. All right, back to Rich, the pharmacist.
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  Speaker 1: So you think a lot of people are on these,
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  Speaker 1: what Trump calls them, the fat shot.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're taking it for weight loss,
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  Speaker 3: that's what it is. I mean, you're using it to
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  Speaker 3: reduce the amount of body fat. So that's not a
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  Speaker 3: bad thing to call it. Like I said, how many
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  Speaker 3: people you know that are overweight do you think are
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  Speaker 3: happy that they're overweight?
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  Speaker 1: Not a one.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It's just very difficult. If it was easy, everybody would
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  Speaker 3: be skinny. It's hard. It's really hard because I tried
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  Speaker 3: it most of my life. And you yo-yo up. Because
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  Speaker 3: it's the lifestyle change you have to make. The GLP
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  Speaker 3: makes the lifestyle change for you because you just can't eat.
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  Speaker 3: And if you do, if you start to eat, within
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  Speaker 3: a couple bites, you fill up. And the only bad
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  Speaker 3: thing is, is I love food. I mean, don't get
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  Speaker 3: me wrong. I love food. And you just can't enjoy
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  Speaker 3: it as much because you just can't consume nearly as
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  Speaker 3: much as you used to. And a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: you look like, you know, this time of year, there
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  Speaker 3: is nothing better to me than a good steak on
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  Speaker 3: the grill and some fresh corn on the cob. There's
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  Speaker 3: a little Mennonite farm, Catalpa Grove Farms out in Columbiana,
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  Speaker 3: phenomenal corn. It's like eating candy. I used to be
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: able to eat probably four or five, six years of corn.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: If I get one or two and maybe half a
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: steak now, I'm done. And I love it. I love it,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: but it's just, there's not that enjoyment of having this
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: fulfilling big meal anymore because you're done halfway through, not
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: even halfway through it, a third of the way through it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: But on the other hand, you're not, you know, I'm
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: not 60 pounds heavier than I used to be.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: So you lost weight and all your numbers got in line.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: And that's the whole thing. With type 2 diabetes, it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: almost exclusively weight-driven. If you drop the weight, I think
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Drew Carey, if you remember, Drew Carey probably, what, 10,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: 15 years ago was diagnosed. Dropped all the weight and
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: he got his diabetes in control.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: And that's something.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I would tell people, look into it if you can
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: afford it. it's definitely worth giving it a shot because
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: if you can tolerate and you're successful with it, it's
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: going to improve your quality of life.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: It'll prevent long-term problems that you're going to have.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Huge, yeah. You're not going to see the Medicare savings
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: in five years, but 10 to 15 years down the road,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: you could see substantial decreases in the cost of providing.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: You're not going to be doing the hip replacements, the
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: knee replacements. A lot of, you know, the treating the diabetes,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: the dialysis, get rid of the diet. Just the amount
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: that we spend on dialysis in this country is astronomical,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: and it's terrible. I mean, if you're not able to
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: go through dialysis, it's a horrible, horrible way to live
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: your life. You prevent that, and you're saving billions and
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: billions of dollars. So there's a lot of benefits to them.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And you think a lot of people are on it already?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: The latest I saw, I think it was on CNBC
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: last week, they said the estimate is 1 in 10
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Americans are taking a GLP right now. I can tell
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: you what we sell every day. I mean, we're going
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: to probably have to buy a bigger refrigerator. We've got
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: a big full-size refrigerator. We're probably going to need another
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: one because we run out of room to put the things.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Isn't that something? And so the price is coming down
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: as time goes on, right? So it'll get less expensive.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I think Ozempic, I think, goes
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: generic in a year or two at the most. And
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: it's a great drug. I mean, are there newer ones coming?
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I just read this morning the next one that Lilly
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: comes out. Ozempic works on GLP. Munger works on GLP
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: plus another site that it blocks, and the new one's
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: going to work on GLP, that site, and glucagon. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: they're seeing, I think, within, I forget how many months
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: it was, but I want to say like 10 or
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: 15 months, you're seeing a 20% weight loss. So if
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you've got somebody that's 250 pounds, that's 50 pounds. If
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: you go from 250 to 200, you're going to have
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: a much healthier life.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You're going to breathe easier, less pressure on your legs
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and all that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Kind of stuff. You're not going to get as windy.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: going up the steps. I mean, your quality of life,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I can just tell you, because my quality of life
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: today is way better than it was six, seven years
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: ago when I first started taking a GLP. It's just
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: tremendously better. You feel better. I feel probably as good
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: now as I did when I was in my 20s
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: and 30s. I mean, a little wear and tear because
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be 59 years old. So, I mean,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: there's some things bending down, obviously, than it used to be,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and getting up is even harder. But compared to what
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I would be, even what I was just five, six
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: years ago, it's made a tremendous difference.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Just what they want, people living longer. Right.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Well, what they're going to do is make you work
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: longer now. That's how, you know, unless they fix Social Security,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: none of us are going to be able to afford
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: to retire.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with this inflation. It's crazy. So, now what's on
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: your minds?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Well, if I could give kudos, you know, I think
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: we focus so much on the negative. And, like, today
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I had one of the best, just a fantastic customer
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: service experience. And you forget about all the neat little
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: places in town that you can go to We have
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: a tendency to focus on the big boxes. You go
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to Walmart or you go to Target or you go
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: to Home Depot and Lowe's. But I've been cutting a
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: lot of wood. So my neighbor had a big branch
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: go down. I like to cut wood, split wood, burn wood.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I love a fire in the winter. So I stack
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: it up. I've cut probably about two and a half cords,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: cut and split and stack two and a half cords
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: of wood.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute, because I've got to break from
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: my headlines. But before I do, remember this. Just remember this.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Nothing attracts ticks more than a wood pile. Just keep
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that in mind as I'm talking, all right?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Then we'll come back, and I want to hear the
• 21:28
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• 21:31
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• 21:38
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• 21:39
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• 21:43
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• 21:47
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• 21:51
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• 21:54
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• 21:57
  Speaker 5: The Boardman School Board meets tonight and it's expected members
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: will vote to approve a new labor agreement with the
• 22:02
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• 22:07
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• 22:11
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• 22:14
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• 22:21
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• 22:39
  Speaker 1: And now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Back to it,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: 335 on a good-looking Monday afternoon, July 27th, 85 degrees.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Your fearless leader, Ron Verb, on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. All
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is be careful when you stack that wood
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: up because ticks are attracted to wood piles. Now, my wife,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: are you ready for this, Rich? Here's the advice. She
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: says a walk in the woods will attract more ticks
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: than a wood pile. I learned that in my tick class.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: She actually took a class. She's taking classes, and one
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: of them was all about ticks. She said, I always
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: heard a walk in the woods was worse, and it is.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: The other thing I would tell people is if you
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: come inside and you find out a tick has bit
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: into your skin, after you remove it, call your doctor
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: because I think you only need two or three days'
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: worth of treatment with doxycycline. as a preventative, and you
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: won't get Lyme disease. It'll kill the organism that causes
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Lyme disease. So if you get bit by a tick,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: call your doctor. Tell them to put you on doxycycline.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: We'll give you two, three days, and you'll never get
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Lyme disease.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, so wait a second here. So you wanted to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: give a compliment.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Anyway, so I cut the first cord I split by
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: hand with a wood mall. I was a little tired,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: so I went up to my mother-in-law's, got my father-in-law's
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: old wood splitter, brought it home. And I'm cycling this thing,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: and the splitter will go forward but not back. And
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I look, and the control mechanism, there's a bolt that
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: fell out. So I pull the other bolt out, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it. It's a hexagonal turn-in machine screw
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: or something. I'm thinking, like, what size is it, whatever.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: So I run up right here in North Lima. You've
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: got Krauss True Value Hardware. John Krause's place. And I
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: walk in with this bowl. I said, John, I know
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: you probably don't have any.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Takes me right back, finds the size. There's a little
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: measuring thing, finds the size, goes to a bin. This
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: is it right here. I think it was like 94
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: cents later, I walked out of the store, fixed my machine.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, what are the odds you could go into
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Home Depot or Lowe's or a lot of these places?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I used to live in Howland. There's a little store
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: in the corner of Old 82 and 46, Andrew's Shopping Center.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Another fantastic little place. You know, Kraus, they have the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Lionel trains. They're probably the best Lionel train collection in
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the United States, if you want to collect Lionel trains.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Just all these neat little businesses where you're going to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: go in, you're going to get good customer service. You're
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: going to probably find stuff that you can't find other places,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: unique little items that you need. And that's the thing
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: that I think, unfortunately, is starting to die in our community.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: It's the little mom and pop shops that used to
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: be around that just, you know, the kids don't want
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: to take them over in a lot of cases or
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the owners die and go away. You'll see bakeries. How
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: many times you read an article in The Vindicator where somebody,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: 50 years in business and they shut down because nobody
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: wants to take the business over?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I was sinking handyman hardware in my neck of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: woods in Austin.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Handyman's another great store. They used to be one up
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: in Niles that I'd go to when I was over
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: in my in-laws and we needed stuff. So, you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: before you just go rushing into the boxes, try some
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: of the little local guys. Price-wise, they're usually competitive. Oh, yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: You know, 5% or 10%, 15% more. But, you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: it would have cost me more in gas when I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: paid for the bolt to run up to Home Depot.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: And, you know, you walk in and the owner's right there.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: He takes care of you. They just provide great service.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: And if I could encourage people, patronize local businesses, locally
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: owned businesses, if you can. Or at least give them
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: a shot. You know, most of the time you're going to,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: have an experience that's better than what you're going to
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: find at all the big box stores.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Now, I leave you with this because this was emailed
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to me. And I'm just reading it. This is a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: special meeting agenda, July 28th. That's tomorrow, incidentally. This is
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: for Poland Township. Okay?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: It's Poland Township. And it says here, let's see, approve,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you know, call to order, pledge of allegiance, roll call,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: approve previous minutes. Line item number five, township resolution, if needed.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Resolution 26-23, a resolution determining to proceed with the submission
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to the electors of the question of levying a tax
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: in excess of the 10 mil limitation.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they want to collect their inside millage.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Township resolution, resolution 2620, a resolution determining to proceed with
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the submission to the electors of the question of levying
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a tax in excess of the 10 mil limitation. What
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: does that mean?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I think what they're trying to do is, my take
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: on that is, well, in excess of the 10 mil limitation.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: So 10 mils is the inside millage amount, correct? Yes.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: That's what they're guaranteed to get is 10 mils. So
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: they want to put on an additional levy, it sounds like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: or a renewal that's in excess of the 10 mils.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that means.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: It's either that or they don't want to give up.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Like I said. All of these entities, all these government
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: entities right now can say they do not want to
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: take the increase they're going to get from the inside millage.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: They can say, nope, we choose not to have that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: And tell Ralph Meacham, take it off their tax bills.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Don't assess the increase on the inside millage.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: This is on the current reappraisals. On the current reappraisals, basically,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you're saying that's the... the part that will go up
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: without you voting on it, each entity has the ability
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to say, we're not going to take it, to give
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the taxpayers some relief, whether that's Austintown Township, Boardman Township,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: whoever's ever in that pool.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because that first 10 mils, if your house went up,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: let's say your house went up 20%, that first 10
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: mils isn't exempt. So you're going to see the amount
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: you pay on that first 10 mils of your property valuation.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: which is about half, because I think my millage is
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: around 20, I think, or ballpark. But anyway, that first
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: 10 mills is going to get assessed, is going to
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: be taxed higher. You're going to get assessed on the
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: new value on that first 10 mills. The political subdivisions,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: school districts, townships, villages, cities, county, can all say, let
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the taxpayer keep it. They can tell Ralph, don't assess
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: these people that increase. I think Dave Thomas may have
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: gotten that put in. And like I said, I went
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: a week and a half ago to the South Range
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: board meeting, and I told them that, and they said, yes,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: we are looking at whether we can afford to not
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: take that increase. We are definitely going to look into that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: They didn't say they were promising not to, but they
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: were at least going to look into it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'll be curious how many people actually exercise that option.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It's the right thing to do, but it's definitely the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: right thing to do.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Here's the problem. If nobody goes and asks them to
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: do it, they're probably not going to do it. But
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: if five people show up at that polling trustees meeting
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: tomorrow or village, whatever it was, and say, we don't
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: want our taxes to increase, we're expecting you not to
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: increase the millage, not to take the increase on the
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: first 10 mills. If people start showing up and demanding
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: that and saying, you know, if you do, I'm going
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: to support whoever's running against you in the next election.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Because God forbid a lot of these public elected officials
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: could not keep that job, that elected position, and suck
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: at the public trowel.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I've got to play a clip. I think I sent
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: it to you the other day. Ron DeSantis eliminating property taxes.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It's a short clip. Let me see if I can
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: bring this up.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Rich. And then I take more calls. News Radio 570.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Listen to this. This is from Graham Bensinger's show, I guess. Listen,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: this is a clip from Ron DeSantis, if I can bring..
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: What are you looking to do with property taxes?
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Well, we're looking to give people relief from the high
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: cost of living. I mean, we've had a major inflationary
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: period in American history, one of the most inflationary. Groceries,
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: all these things. Who knows what's going to happen with oil?
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: The one thing we control is tax. And so in Florida,
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: local governments get property tax. We don't get it at
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: the state. We've got a plush rainy day fund. We've
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: paid down half our debt since I've been governor. I've
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: got all this great stuff.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: We're doing great.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Local governments, when I became governor, were taking in $ 32 billion.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Now they're taking in $ 60 billion. So their revenue has
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: almost doubled in seven years.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Because they're assessing the values higher, and the values have
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: gone up. And so we're saying, okay, if you're a
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Florida resident and you're homesteading your property, that's your primary
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: homesteaded residence. We think that should be excluded. Now, that's
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: about 30% of the overall property tax revenue if you
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: just did it on day one. So it's got to
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: go on the ballot in November of 2026. And it'd
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: be something that would be phased in most likely. But
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: we could get to a point very quickly in Florida
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: where 90 some percent are not paying anything. And eventually
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: we'd phase in the elimination. So it can be done.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: And if we don't do anything, they're going to have 84.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Billion in revenue in 2031.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: So that's.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: 12, 13 years to go from 32 to 84. So
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: when people will say, you can't do it, you're not
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: going to have any services, just ask them, did we
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: not have schools and police in 2019 when they were
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: taken in 32 billion?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Of course we did.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: Now, give them inflation, give them population growth, give them
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: a couple percent just for kicks on a Saturday night.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: That takes you to about 46 or 47 billion. It
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: doesn't take you to 60. So how would you want
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: to do that? Maintain the growth of these governments or
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: give Floridians, really historic property tax relief.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: There you go. There's the philosophy that you don't see
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and you don't hear in Mahoning County. There is Ron
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: DeSantis in Florida talking about property taxes. It's a philosophy
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: that you don't hear from elected officials in Mahoning County,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and it is what our problem is. When you're taking
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a look at local property taxes, what were you taking
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: in a few years ago. And what are you taking
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: in now? The amount of money has changed dramatically in
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: this community. And as that money continues to increase, we
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: continue to grow governments as, as opposed to saying, do
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you really need that much? You can't function on slight
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: increases from where you were 10 years ago. When you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: listen to Ron DeSantis, that guy is just absolutely visionary.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: So in November on the ballots, uh, As a Florida resident,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you can be homestead exempted. I mean, just think about that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Do you hear that philosophy from anyone in Mahoning County?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Do you hear it from your Mahoning County commissioners? Do
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you hear it from your trustees? Do you hear anyone
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like you hear DeSantis, whose prime focus is on the
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: numbers and the taxpayer? As he said, the only thing
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: we in government can do to assist the individual is
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: would deal with taxes and lowering taxes for people. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: we still have more money coming in, but we're not
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: taking this gross amount of money from them. What an
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: outstanding governor that guy is and would make a terrific president.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: You know, there's things about Ron DeSantis. He's a lawyer.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And he reads books. before he makes a decision, he reads.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: He's a lawyer and he reads. He educates himself so
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't accept what
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: he's told. He actually reads. And you could see that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: when it came to COVID and what was going on
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: with the COVID situation, why Florida stayed open. And when
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you hear him talk about what a refreshing outlook it
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: is when he's just talking about where they're going. Ron Furb,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN, and you're on the air.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Poland Township meeting agenda, I don't know
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: what conclusion to draw from it other than it sounds
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: like they are broke. Why do you need to go
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: in excess of a limitation on a levy?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Now, according to Rich, that might be the inside millage.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Let's see. Well,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: let's see. Who would know? Eric Ungaro would know. So
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Eric Ungaro, Poland Township trustee, should call the program and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: explain that. Let's see. Well, let's see. There's Eric Ungaro,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Frank Domain, he's vice chairman, and Edward Kempers, trustee.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Any of those people? I mean, they're there with Poland Township.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Perhaps they should call and explain this to the residents
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of Poland Township. So this is a special meeting on
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the 28th. And it's a fair question to say, what
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: does that mean? Resolution 2623, a resolution determining to proceed
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: with the submission to the electors of the question of
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: levying a tax in excess of the 10 mil limitation.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. but they can explain it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Thursday they had some kind of emergency meeting, but
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't go to that, and I don't even know
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: if the audio is out there or the video or anything.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: So that's what makes me think it's.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: A bigger problem. I don't know.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Eric Anguero always seemed to be very Pat Anguero-like, his father.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, Pat Anguero was an outstanding great mayor, and
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I think Eric Anguero has some similar qualities to his dad.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Perhaps he'll call and explain what that is about.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be good.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: So any of you out there that know Eric Angaro,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: tell him to call the program and explain this and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: give him the phone number. And perhaps we'll find out,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: as opposed to speculate. How's the signature drive going these
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: days to get rid of property taxes?
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going good.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I've already printed out 500 petitions for the Canfield Fair
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: and everything. I went and bought a lot of pens today,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: you know, for the event, so getting all my volunteers
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: in order. So, yeah, we're ready to collect at the
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Canfield Fair and the other pop-ups that we do. And
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: we have a new signing station in Lisbon, Frontiers Unlimited,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: so for people who are out in Lisbon. So, yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: it's going good.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think they'll make the amount of signatures they
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: need by the deadline?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I would think we could. I mean, we just need
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: to double what we have, you know, so I think
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: we could.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Because you want a pad, and there's a substantial pad,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: so that if ones are..
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to just have, here's the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: bottom line, you want to go substantially above that to
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: make sure that you have the pad there that's needed
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to have some breathing room, I guess is what I'm saying.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I think Brian Massey would feel comfortable submitting $ 600, 000. But
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: less than that, I don't know. But we'll see. We
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: got to do it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: So anybody out there that wants to help can just
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: go to our website, axohtax.com, and download it and get 10,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: 20 signatures for us.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Even Brian Massey knows that you're doing the best job around.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, you are really doing the best job of
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: gathering these signatures. And here's the bottom line. You can see...
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Did you hear that DeSantis clip I played? The difference,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the mentality of DeSantis, who's embracing getting rid of property
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: taxes in Florida, versus the mentality around here on what
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you hear from all of these people here who don't
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: even want to double the homestead exemption for our poorest
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: senior citizens. It's unreal. So as they continue to get
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: all these increases, substantial increases, they seem to be able
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to find a way to spend it all.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. But, I mean, they did the
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: owner occupancy. I think Lombiana, Trumbull, and Mahoning all did
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: the owner occupancy. I think Erie County was the only
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: county that did both. So, I don't know.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I thought Lake County did both.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: No, Lake County only did one. They voted against Commissioner No.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't do both.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I got to get him back on. I just got
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to make a point to call him.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Have him back on.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Keep up the fight. She's doing great work. News Radio 570.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's somebody who just spends a lot of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: time championing this cause. You can't help but sit back
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: and admire her in all she does. Denise, you're doing
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a great job. Gather no signatures. Hey, it's Ron Verb
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: from the Kingdom of Mahoning. Stay tuned. Your one-stop radio
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. 354, it's 85 degrees, Monday, July 27th. News
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Radio 570 WKBN. And you're on the air.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Hey, Ron, when G2 said that inflation was up only 2.21%,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: my girlfriend had just walked in the door, heard what
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: he said, and she said... That guy on the talk
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: show you listen to needs to start going to the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: grocery store.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I tried telling him that. Listen, it was exciting.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I just disagreed with what G2 was saying because he's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: doing the same thing that the Democrats did when Biden
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: was in office. Would you agree when we had all
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: this inflation and they were trying to act like it
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: was not as bad as it actually is? And they
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: were trying to statistically try to tell you how good
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it is and we don't realize why you don't feel
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it's so great anymore. You remember those days. Well, he
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: was trying to do the same thing that the Democrats
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: were doing. And it's just nonsense. Well, you know, Ron,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: gas is only four dollars a gallon. It's off. It's
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: high of five something. Well, I don't care. It's still
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: higher than it was a 250 a gallon before the
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: war started. I'm with you 100 percent on that. I mean,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: that was not registering with me at all from a
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: standpoint of of as a consumer. It was I'm with
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you and I'm with your girl. I guess I'm not
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: with you, Frank. I'm with your girlfriend.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I got enough girlfriends, so I got a couple to spare.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: You want one?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: No. I got a wife. That's all I need.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know where G2 gets his numbers from,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: but according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, inflation was
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: actually down 0.4% for June, seasonally adjusted. but it's still
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: up 3.5% for the past 12 months. And also, we
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: both know government understates the rate of inflation, so the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: true inflation rate could be double, 3.5%. Now, as far
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: as the stock market, another down day. Here's the headline
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: financial news on one website. Dow up S & P
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: 500 and NASDAQ lag in final hour at start of
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: big week for Decker earnings and waiting on the Fed's
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: interest rate policy. And another one says stock market only
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: briefly rallies on Iran war pause. It used to skyrocket
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: when there was any hope of the war ending. The market,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I think, is realizing this is all bull crap. Let
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: me quote you from George Orwell, 1984. He said, wars
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: are not meant to be won. They're meant to be continuous. So,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: you know, all these multi-billionaires can make even more money
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: on funding both sides of the war.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And if I said to you, I'm not optimistic when
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it comes to This entire situation when it comes to
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the economy. I mean, this whole time we've been tapping
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: into the strategic oil reserves, as China has done. China's
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: cut back consumption. China's cut into theirs, which is larger
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: than ours. So we've done all of this to try
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: to keep the price of oil and gasoline down. But
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: guess what? We're running out of that option because we're
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: depleting all the reserves. So all of these oil experts
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: that everybody was poo-pooing are saying, hey, you've got a
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: serious problem coming here in August, end of July, August,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: because you're not going to be able to tap into
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: this stuff very much longer. Stand by, Frank. All right,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: hang on. Back with Fort Lauderdale, Frank. Other callers in line,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: stand by. Ron Verb, NewsRadio 570, WKBN. Hey, good afternoon.
• 43:52
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