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#616 - Snow Tha Product Gets Real About Trump, Mental Health, Marriage, Streaming, Her New Album & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Cap podcast man special guests in here. My girl man
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  Speaker 1: shot to Snow the product her new album is out
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  Speaker 1: before I crash out. Congratulations, thank you? Yes, how's everything good? Good? Since?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like we see each other. We
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  Speaker 1: haven't had yes since I was at my old spot
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  Speaker 1: which is a few seconds away, but it's been a while. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which has been a while. Happy to see you always. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. This is a massive album. Yeah, it could
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  Speaker 1: like if you this this is like a double discer.
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  Speaker 1: It really is like had you like like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna do it. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna do CDs or not, but I'm sure you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do all that. Right. Yeah. But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: back in the day when we were growing up, because
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  Speaker 1: we're the same age, we will tell you how you'd
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  Speaker 1: go to the like some people would put out double albums.
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  Speaker 1: This is thirty Records.
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  Speaker 2: It started out as a mixtape, right, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't really like. It wasn't a whole like plan. It
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  Speaker 2: was just like put music out. My fans were just like,
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  Speaker 2: you keep saying you will and you never do. And
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we have a lot of that, like
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  Speaker 2: on the West Coast where we get really like in
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  Speaker 2: our head or we want to perfect it, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, there's a lot of And to me,
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, you know what, I need to
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  Speaker 2: just go and hopefully I just get in a rhythm
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  Speaker 2: where I can just keep on releasing music. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: so much about album or roll out or what. It
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  Speaker 2: was just like, bitch, go so you can keep going.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you know? Yeah? I mean I know like too,
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  Speaker 1: You've been like like you had a dope this tour.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have another tour coming up right before I
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  Speaker 1: crashed out tours in February? Yes, March March. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you just were on tour earlier this year, right, No,
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  Speaker 1: it was late last year, last year. Yeah, everything's been
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  Speaker 1: blended in. But I was like, I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean obviously you stay on the road, but you've
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  Speaker 1: you've kind of gotten to this point where you're also
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  Speaker 1: like a full time content creator. Yeah, you got the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the stream. Yeah, is it hard to like because that's
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  Speaker 1: got to be like you have so much fun online. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your family's involved. I think that's the key.
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  Speaker 2: To this is I actually give like I actually like it,
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  Speaker 2: Like I actually want to hang out with my family,
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  Speaker 2: and like we just turn on a camera and it's
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  Speaker 2: all that home and I have the ranch and I
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  Speaker 2: have the chickens and the goats and the animals and
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  Speaker 2: everything is just there. So it's like it's so much
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  Speaker 2: easier to turn on the camera as opposed to if
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  Speaker 2: I was like going somewhere and like clocking in, clocking
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  Speaker 2: out whatever. And also at this point, my life has
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  Speaker 2: just become whoever's in my life I see and work
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  Speaker 2: with every day. If you if I don't, then you're
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  Speaker 2: not in my life.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Not for sure? Is it
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  Speaker 1: like because for you? Like it does it take away
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  Speaker 1: from like like you being inspired to make music when
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  Speaker 1: you're you have this other thing going on that is
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  Speaker 1: the content space, Like your stream is very successful, your
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  Speaker 1: podcast is very successful than you, is it? Like like
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  Speaker 1: how do you kind of compartmentalize? Like, Okay, I got
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get my head in the game,
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  Speaker 1: it's album time, or I gotta, you know, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: put myself in that space where I want to be
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  Speaker 1: creative and work on the on the music, or is
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  Speaker 1: it does it all just kind of float again?
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  Speaker 2: I have ADHD, Yeah, every day is I don't know, Like,
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  Speaker 2: if anything, I think it's having so many little compartmentalized
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  Speaker 2: like parts of my life has helped me actually do
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  Speaker 2: anything right, because what could have happened is I don't
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  Speaker 2: do all those things and then I'm just sitting there
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  Speaker 2: trying to work on music and I can't, and then
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  Speaker 2: I'm I go party, you know what I'm saying, or
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  Speaker 2: like I go get drunk, or I go to the
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  Speaker 2: hills and party where all the artists want to be
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  Speaker 2: at and whatever. And with this it's more like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel like making music right now, let me
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  Speaker 2: go make a podcast, or like I don't feel like podcasting,
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  Speaker 2: let me go work on some music, or I don't
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  Speaker 2: feel like doing that, let me go work on some merch.
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  Speaker 2: Like everything is there, you know, And I genuinely love
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  Speaker 2: the merch aspect of my shit, like I genuinely love
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  Speaker 2: the podcast. I like streaming, going live and for a
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  Speaker 2: I mean for me going on TikTok and going live
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  Speaker 2: while I'm doing my makeup.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I'm gonna do a make up Anywhere're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it, you might as well. Yeah, engage with your fans. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: have you seen like new people come to the party
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  Speaker 1: like that weren't necessarily fans of the music or like,
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  Speaker 1: but but they started to become fans of the content,
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  Speaker 1: and then that kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of like them like, yeah, I have I have some
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  Speaker 2: girls that like I'll be like I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 2: love your music, but like, you know, I like watching
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  Speaker 2: you know, your personality school.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool, Like I guess it could be offensive, but
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  Speaker 2: it also isn't because it's like I guess it's cooler
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  Speaker 2: that people could fuck with me as a person, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's like that's dope. Like, yeah, music is subjective, but
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  Speaker 1: what really matter is like if people fuck with you
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  Speaker 1: as like who you are?
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  Speaker 2: You know, or some people even like the relationship with
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  Speaker 2: my son, like they're just like, I'm I didn't used
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  Speaker 2: to watch you, but now because of your son and
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  Speaker 2: my kids, watch your content with you and your kid,
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  Speaker 2: Like I watch you guys and like that's inspiring. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what at the end of the day, bro,
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  Speaker 2: whatever the whatever it is. I mean, you do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things, you know, it's like whatever it is,
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  Speaker 2: it's cool. Like as you become a real like adult,
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  Speaker 2: you realize, like, bro, I give you know, I make
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  Speaker 2: a living doing what I love. I hang out with
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  Speaker 2: my family. It's a blessing every day as long as
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  Speaker 2: we're here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, how do you Because my wife is a
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  Speaker 1: big fan of you and your son's dynamic. I guess
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  Speaker 1: she she had told me a she was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: there was something where I guess he stopped streaming, but
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to buy something, so he streamed like long
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  Speaker 1: enough to like get money to buy yes, something, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And like he's ridiculous. My wife was like explaining to
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  Speaker 1: me and she showed me one of the videos and
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  Speaker 1: it was fucking hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous because my fans are in on it. So
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  Speaker 2: he'll be like, guys, I'm only here because I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: make them. I want to make money, and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I get it, little man, And I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: don't don't, don't hype him up because this is why.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm just it's like the constant fight
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  Speaker 2: to not raise a bitch ass dude, which he's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna be if my life depends on this, but like
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  Speaker 2: you know, I always have to be he stresses me out.
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  Speaker 2: But I think half the time he's trolling, Like I
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  Speaker 2: think he knows, no, he's hilarious, he knows he's stressing
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  Speaker 2: me out.
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  Speaker 1: But like is it Is it because he's got to
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  Speaker 1: have his own little like weird like fans. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: is that like weird to deal with as a mom.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I definitely have gotten approached with like your baby
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  Speaker 2: Drew's mom, and I'm like, yeah, like I am, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like at the end of the day in my son's life,
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm just a mom. So if baby Drew becomes
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  Speaker 2: his own person his own personality, his own anything, like
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  Speaker 2: I'm just his mom, Like I just fall by the wayside,
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  Speaker 2: which is totally fine.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's what it's I think he'd be. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if he like really goes hard on the YouTube shit,
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  Speaker 1: he could pop, especially with your guys property and all
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  Speaker 1: the cool random like shit he could get into.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's just he'd be what I love what
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  Speaker 2: I love is that he's not married to the likes
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  Speaker 2: or the views, like, so he doesn't care, which is
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  Speaker 2: like it could be a great thing, right, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, great, my kid doesn't care. But it could
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  Speaker 2: also be like a or are you just being lazy?
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't know which which side of it it is,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So it's like I like raising a kid
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't wake up every day, like how many likes
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  Speaker 2: did I get?
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't do that.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, he doesn't, you know, go
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  Speaker 2: feed the dog.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, what's up with the dog? Go go
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  Speaker 1: do some yardwork, clean dog shit?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go get the chickens, eggs and shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday I picked up four How many animals in totality?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have four chickens, five dogs? And like no,
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  Speaker 2: four goats, five dogs, and like fifteen chickens.
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  Speaker 1: I think we have three roosters. Get the chickens and rooster?
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  Speaker 1: Do they wake you up in the morning? Oh? The
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  Speaker 1: roosters are crackheads.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even have a time, Like I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong with them, but they like ten pm they're
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  Speaker 2: going so.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have like because like most like like I
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  Speaker 1: used to grow like my neighbors were Mexican, I had
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  Speaker 1: chicken so we they would wake us up every morning
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: at the same time. Right, yeah, I get that. Yours
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  Speaker 1: are like they're just like ten pm cocka doodle do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, what is wrong with you all? They're
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  Speaker 2: just I didn't want roosters. I we thought they were chickens.
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  Speaker 1: They grow up. Now I have three roosters and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to do with them. I don't want them.
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  Speaker 1: But but they're there. They're there, and you guys don't
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  Speaker 1: have to ever buy eggs. Right, well, that's a positive.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love the chickens. I love the hens. Laying hens amazing.
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  Speaker 1: You guys have just for the sake of like, we
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  Speaker 1: got goats, let's go pet them.
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  Speaker 2: No, they were a gift my eggs bottom for me
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  Speaker 2: for Christmas, which was a gift that keeps on shitting
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  Speaker 2: all over the fucking ranch.
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  Speaker 1: I fuck, I really don't do you pet them? Do
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  Speaker 1: you hang? We hang with them? They're funny. One of
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: them's names Drake. Do you the goats into the house? No?
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  Speaker 1: They list there's a lady who walks a goat around
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  Speaker 1: like it's a fucking dog.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she has a lot of time on her hands.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like if I feel like, if I
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  Speaker 1: had a goat, I let the goat in a goat.
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  Speaker 2: If when they were babies, I would have done it.
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  Speaker 2: But at the time I had like I had so much.
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  Speaker 2: I've just always been really busy, which is also why
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: I don't have horses. Like I've always wanted a horse,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think I have the time right now.
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  Speaker 2: And like, animals need a lot of love, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of so I do go out there
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  Speaker 2: and I vibe out with them and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out a way for them to be useful.
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  Speaker 1: But no, yeah, they're just there. They just cost money.
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  Speaker 3: They're liability even yeah, not even goat yoga or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you can't even get like there's goat cheese,
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  Speaker 1: goat milk. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing is I had two, and then they
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  Speaker 2: did it, and then they had three, so now I
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  Speaker 2: have that I have five.
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  Speaker 1: But then one so you wait, so you wait, wait,
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  Speaker 1: you had two, they fucked had babies. You have their babies, yes,
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: but you lost the fifth one to a coyote. Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: While I was on tour, my mom called me and
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: was just like, there has been a murder, and I
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, she's crazy more yeah, which
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: is crazy because when my girl, like my girl first
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  Speaker 2: invited me to uh, we're barely dating. We weren't in
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: a relationship yet and we're barely dating, and I was
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: supposed to go to her like corporate party or something,
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  Speaker 2: and I kind of didn't really want to go. But
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  Speaker 2: then also, like, the goats were born. So then I
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: call her and I'm like, hey, I'm not gonna be
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  Speaker 2: able to make it like I just had baby goats
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  Speaker 2: be born, and I think she didn't buy the story.
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  Speaker 2: So I sent her the picture and I'm like, there's
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: literally baby goats that I didn't even know my goat
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  Speaker 2: was pregnant. First of all, they're related, so that's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: And now I have anat goats.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: They're weird.
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  Speaker 2: Their fucking father uncle is strange. I just the farm
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: life is like it's cute until.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: It's not, and you're just like, do you have dogs
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: that stay in the house and dogs that don't come
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: in the house. I have dog. All my dogs stay
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: in the house.
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  Speaker 2: People tell me to buy dogs like ranch dogs, but
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: then I feel bad because it's like that's gonna be
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: like a whole Like I would feel terrible, right like
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: you're you go over there and you go like.
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  Speaker 1: Like you guys, are there house dogs and there's outside dogs? Yeah? No, no,
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  Speaker 1: what kind of are they? Big dogs? Are they small?
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  Speaker 1: Two peoples?
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  Speaker 2: A cocker Spaniel Achias like little and then her dog
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  Speaker 2: whatever that is?
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  Speaker 1: Whatever that is? So what is it? Every everything? He's
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: in everything based.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a crazy man.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: His name is Sushi, So out to Sushi. Yeah, you
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: and your girl are married now are engaged married, officially married? Yeah,
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: this is a this is a big step.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well we yeah, we announced our engagement, but
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: we we had already gotten married because like to me,
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I just did I wanted stuff that isn't for everybody else,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like I wanted to be able to have
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: my own like private moments and enjoy them. And it
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: was great, it was beautiful, and and now we're gonna
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: have the wedding wedding you know, which I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Shoot, so you guys are are still going to do
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  Speaker 1: like a big wedding that's like traditional everybody comes yeah,
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, are you gonna do it at
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  Speaker 1: your house. I don't know. That's what we're barely talking about.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Just do it at your house. The venue suck, and
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: then they give you like a list of vendors you
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: could use, and and that shit's hell expensive, Like, yeah,
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: you did that? Oh yeah, and what happened? Tell me
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  Speaker 1: about it? This is expensive. First of all, I had
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: to make payments on my wedding. Oh shoot, yeah, I
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: was like they were like, I think it was like
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  Speaker 1: thirty grand, which is a cheap wedding, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: cheap wedding. But at that time, have you hear this?
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, no, you're going to spend like one hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars on your wedding? Yo. Me in twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 1: was I was making like eighty grand a year at
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: real ninety two three, not making a lot of money,
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  Speaker 1: So thirty grand was a serious nut. You're doing much
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: better than that. Your girl's gonna run it up, just
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  Speaker 1: so you know. This is her only wedding. It's gonna
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: be fucking all the bells and whistles.
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  Speaker 2: But can't we just spend that hundred grand on the
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  Speaker 2: house on an investment, investment in the rams, make it
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: look beautiful.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: You could just go buy a rent. You could go
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: buy a fucking fourplex in Palmdale. Yeah, goddamn. Anyway, with
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: that being said, uh, investment, investment opportunities here, but yeah,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: like a lot of these venues they will give you,
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  Speaker 1: Like like, if you want catering, you can only pick
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: from like a list of caterers that they approved. Why.
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  Speaker 1: It's fucking stupid. It's a it's weird. The wedding ship
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: is hella strange like that whole industry is very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: But if you have like a lot of property, just
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: do it at your crib right, just paid wedding planner
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: and you know, set it up. Put the goats in
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: the wedding right. Where did you guys get married? I'm
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: dead at a courthouse?
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Like literally it was like on some like random like
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: little fucking let's just do it now. Because also I
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: don't know if you saw, but like gay marriage was
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: like on the chopping block, like they were trying to
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: put it up on the chopping block.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: So as much as.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: People be like what you talking about bulletins, it's like, bro,
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: like they're trying to figure out whether or not it's
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: legal for me to love the person that I love.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Like that's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy because even like I
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: guess we're in California, so it feels like I guess
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: California is a lot of the crazier shit that like
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: is happening, Like we're kind of protected from in a way.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Kind of until we're not though, Like I think that's
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: what's happening right now, is that we're also like up
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: in the air.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, but if they like when they started
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: kind of attacking places, wasn't it first coming into California,
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Like when.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: They started bringing in like like the ice sh it
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they went for the big cities. They
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: weren't going to the fucking red right e feel me
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: like they came for us.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. So I was going to ask you,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I want to get into all, you know, all the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: politics stuff. But you had a moment at the Don't
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Fall In Love festival. Yeah that went viral where you
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: kind of called out all the Trump people backstage everybody.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: But uh, I mean obviously not everybody is aligned pulled
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: right now. Now. That's the other thing I'll say this,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: like if you you know, I just don't understand people
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: who still bang the trump shit. Yeah, it's like you
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: could have been like, damn, we got hold we got
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: like we are it's more respectable to do yeah, Like
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: you know what, I was tripping like people who still
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: like doubled Like, to me, that's just like some gang
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: shit or some cult shit. It's like, what are we doing?
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: It's not wanting to give up the there's there's there's
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: a bunch of different ways you could put it.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: There's obviously the people who have been on the correct
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: side of history, which you know, we were, Okay, we
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: also have to like calm down and be like, okay,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: so what do we do now? Right, because it already happens,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: So what do we do? What I don't like is
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the people that are one acting like they didn't do
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: it right. So there's a lot of people that like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: we're hanging out with trump Pees, being trumpees behind the
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: scenes or even in front of the scenes doing it
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: and now they're just like scrubbing the internet from it
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: and they're just like nope, like or trying to become
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: the voice of the immigrants. Now we're trying to become
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the trying to like grift off it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, yeah, I just think like
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: there's I think people are so like worried about just
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: like coming out and being like I was wrong. Yeah
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I was. I felt like this was the best move,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and I obviously was wrong. Hidezeins twenty twenty. It is
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: You want to know why, because the people that were
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: telling those type of guys that were doing that not
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: to do that were like women, their mothers, their sisters,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: their girls, and a lot of these dudes that have
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: that mentality don't want to listen.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: They don't want and then now they want to they
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear it from all those people like
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I fucking told you, Yeah, they feel like they gotta
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: dig in even more.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah you gotta take that out and just be like, yo,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: yeah I was wrong. I do you know how much
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: it's more like respectable it is to hear somebody be like, yo,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you know what, honestly, I was wrong. I'm going to
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: do more research next time. I'm gonna, you know, if
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: there there's a teachable moment that okay, cool, But all
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: these motherfuckers lying, pretending or trying to still be on it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Or grifting. I think the grift is just the biggest
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: thing I just don't understand like the new shit to
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: me that it's wild. It's like seeing so many people
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: have billion like billionaire psychopathic billionaires backs like they give
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a fuck about them. It's like, yo, you guys like
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: really are like pro mass deportation, but don't bat an
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: eye or speak out against the fact that like the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: AI industry owns the administration and the AI shit is
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: literally what's actually replacing everyone's jobs, not fucking the immigrants.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: It's fucking artificial intelligence, Like that is what's actually replacing
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: everyone's jobs. Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I was saying that on the the fucking podcast before
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: this whole shit happened. I was like, look, you're talking
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: about immigrants, like who's really coming for your job right now?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Who's definitely gonna be AI fucking Sam Altman, and it's
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: coming for everybody. And then also it's like they're using
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: this they're they're they're scapegoating immigrants. But now they're saying like, Okay,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: well a real idea isn't enough ID, so now you're
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: gonna have to figure out a way to ID yourself
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: that isn't the real ID. So here you go, give
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: us your iris, your fingerprint as you're this, you're that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: put us put you in a fucking database. And if
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you're not in that database, So isn't this the whole
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: thing crazy?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: So it's like we're cooked, we are getting ushered into
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: mass surveillance and yeah, it's spooky shit. And like even
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: like a lot of the people involved with the Trump administration,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it's not even about I mean he said it. He's like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: why don't we get more immigrants from non shithole countries
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: or like he I think he mentioned like Denmark, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's this. I don't know if you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Stephen Miller is the fucking devil in the flesh. That motherfucker.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: He might be Jewish, but he is a white supremacist.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: That guy is a psycho. And that is the guy
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: who's in charge of all of this fucking deportation. He's terrible.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: It is. Do you ever feel like because I know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: every once in a while, like I gotta like unplug
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: from just the new cycle because it can be mentally
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: taxing for you. Obviously, you're a gay woman, you're a Latina.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: You're also very your public figure who is you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: very much like outwardly expressed your discontent with what's going on?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Do you ever have to like just take a step back,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like unplugged a little so it doesn't get to YouTube.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Does it ever mentally get to you, like what's going
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: on in the world? Yeah? I cry a lot.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: This project called Before I Crash Out was my Before
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I crash Out outlet, so instead of I really was
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: questioning everything and just being like, bro, what the fuck
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: is life?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Like this is crazy?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So I started this project and it became awesome to
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: have something to put all my energy into. But I'm
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: not gonna lie just this weekend because you were asking me,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: how did I do this weekend? I'm like, well, once
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the project dropped, I had to sit there with the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: reality that like that's it, Like I don't have the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: project to do anymore.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Right, Like that was something for you to work on
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: stay busy, Like yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So I just started crying because I was just like, well,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that's it, Like you know, I mean, obviously I can
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: work on more music, and I can work on content
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: or whatever, but I'm just like, at the beginning of
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: its inception, I was like, at least all have this,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and then now I'm just like Okay, So.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I feel.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Just as a woman, just as a person, as an adult,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: as someone who's growing up, who has the kids and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: the wife and just you know who has in my life. Bro,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Even if we weren't in this administration, that's still a
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: lot to take in, you know, like as a person, Like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you know, we feel like we was just kids not
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that long ago, and all of a sudden we're here
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: now where our parents were, and we're thinking like, damn,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: is this how they felt? And like what is that?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: And then between their feel like I'm a kid, it's crazy,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Like I still feel like sometimes I'm like, damn, I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: fucking I'm thirty eight years old, Like I am a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: grown ass. Yeah. You look around and you're like, bro,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: this is it? Like this was it? Like when we
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: were little.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: We were like thinking, we're like promised this like and
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: it's like and even for me, for example, right like
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: my job is amazing, I'm a rapper, I do shows,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I got fans, I got I got everything, And still
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: you look around and be like this is it, you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: like this is this is what you know? So I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: can't even imagine like everybody must be feeling it, which
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: is why now more than ever, just on a human level, Like,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I really just want to connect with people because bro,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: this reality just be kind of fucking with me, like
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: it's fucked. Yeah, So I don't know, I'm gonna throw
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: more parties, I'm gonna hang out with more people. I'm
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: gonna go to the park, Like That's why my album
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: covers like Me on the Grass. I'm like, bro, like
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: touch grass ground yourself? Have you know, enjoy company conversations,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: maybe even things that aren't political. I know people think
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: that everywhere I go I want to talk about politics,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: but I don't.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I think people just think that's what I want to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: talk about.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: So everybody talks about it, but we talk about anything
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: except for aliens because I hate talking about aliens.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: It's a pointless alien.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Really, what what can you tell me that it's for
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: sure about aliens?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I just said they're there, that's all I think. I mean,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: come on, like, I don't know, they're fucking they gotta be.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: There's fucking hieroglyphics that were found that are like nine
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand years old that have aliens in them. Yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: so what the fuck? How they build the fucking pyramids? Yeah?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Fucking aliens. Okay, can I tell you this is something
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I've I've shared this before. No white people shit, well
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: kind of, I mean, I guess, Okay, so my mom hurt. Well,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I guess my aunt my mom's aunt, so whatever that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: makes her to me, my mom's aunt is my aunt.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I guess. She married a guy named Doc who was
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: he worked. He was an engineer at NASA and he
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: was like one of the first like one hundred employees
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: at NASA or some shit. So my mom went back east.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: They live in Maryland, so she went back east to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: visit them in like ninety eight, ninety nine some shit,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And she asked him at dinner if
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: there were aliens, and he told my mom that he's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: not allowed to answer that, but what he can say
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is that if most people knew what was really in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the ocean, people couldn't handle it and they'd killed themselves.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I can understand that. And I'm just thinking they're coming.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: It's it's not up there, it's down there.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The ocean is so like we don't even know
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: what the fuck's out there. Shit is like most of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the world unexplored.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I know, but it's like we're not going to I
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. I'm just like, I'm just
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I just like I think when we talk about aliens,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: it's just like we're not gonna do shit.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? No, there's been like, you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: congressional hearings about aliens and like government employees saying that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: they're pretty much real. Yeah, but it's just like we
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: live in such a crazy time that it doesn't even
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: penetrate the news cycle for real, Like no one gives
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a fuck. We've been so conditioned by all these movies
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood to be like, yeah, of course there's aliens.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: We were watching them fucking on TV. We watched Independence
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Day and all this shit. So when they really do come,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: which I think will happen before we both die, yeah,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I think soon we're gonna know.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Well, they need to do something, and they need to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: fix a lot of these things. There's potholes, there's a
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: lot of technology.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: We drop a nuke before someone decides they want to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: nuke somebody. The aliens are gonna come down and be like, hey, hey, hey.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Well, in order to have a new world order and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in order for everybody to be under one government, they're
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: gonna have to say something there against all of us.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Let's all listen to this one fucking group of people
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: right here. That's what's gonna happen.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the New World Order is a real thing. I know.
• 24:09
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, were you like nervous at all about
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  Speaker 1: coming forward and doing like more of a political record
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  Speaker 1: and like how your fans are it? No, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I feel like because you've always been not spoken to
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  Speaker 1: your interviews and ship and.
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  Speaker 2: Like I've always been doing ever since the last time
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  Speaker 2: that this dude was running. I had songs, I had
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  Speaker 2: this pian that I was talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Remember you had the legalized my mom fucking ship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a long like what was that like
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  Speaker 2: a decade ago? That was like back then, it was
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  Speaker 2: like against like it was against the Democrats.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: What I don't like like back then though, there wasn't
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: as many people in the Latin community, because that's damn
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  Speaker 1: near A big reason why he did win was a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: lot of Latins did vote for him, which is you.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, because how do I explain this. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you had a big moment here. You had mc magic
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  Speaker 2: right here.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: He did say all that.
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  Speaker 2: Right here and explain to you why he's a Trump supporter,
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  Speaker 2: and then proceeded to back it up with facts that
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: were Democrats that did that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So it's like you, you, you voted for this.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Guy based on getting food stamps and stuff, which were
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: not what he stands for. It's actually the opposite. And
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: then you sat here and said that and a lot
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: of people back that up. A lot of people didn't,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people didn't. The thing is that
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: it's polarizing, but at the end of the day, at
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: least it's a conversation and you're right back when I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was first talking about it. Not that many fucking people
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: gave a fuck, And that's the problem. The problem is
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I've always came off as like the angry girl are like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I never blew up, I never did anything because because
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: snow's confrontational and it's like, well, I've been sitting here
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: telling you all about this shit for like how long,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and y'all don't give a fuck. It's like what me
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and a mortal technique telling you motherfuckers?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Like, who the fuck out? I say this shit all
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the time. I always say this, like we need more
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: fucking immortal technique energy in the fucking world. Like.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: The problem is if I was a man, like if
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  Speaker 2: I was, if I was the man y'all are looking for,
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  Speaker 2: I would literally be getting my fucking flowers. But I'm
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: a woman, so people don't want to hear from a woman.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like, I feel like you've
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  Speaker 1: been getting your flowers a lot. I don't think so.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like if I was a man, I would
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: absolutely and by the way, fuck my flowers.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: That's not about that it's about. I just wish that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: It was more normalized to hear a woman talk and
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: be like, you know what, she kind of hate that,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Like why is that so difficult? Like I feel like
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: guys are like I don't want to hear that girl.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I want a man in my ear to tell me
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: what to do. It's like you like, guys, you tell me.
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  Speaker 2: Why are guys so like gangy about that? It's so like,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: fuck these bitches. It's all about my boys.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And I just want to hang out with I think
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: like when I think of like, uh, most men, the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: perspective I hear is it's not relatable, yeah for them
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: here to hear a message from a girl. But I'm
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: not saying that I'm in that. Yeah, but I got
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: homie story like that. Who like if I'm like fucking
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: listening to like Glow really in the car some shit
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: like I turn the sh out, I'm like this is
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Max or like or like yourself or you know, Rhap
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: City is an incredible MC too. But I do feel
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like like it's it's just like I.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Think hearing a Latina woman talk is not going to
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: be the same because you you you know what I'm
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: saying like I feel like, I don't know, it would
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: be different if if guys are like, oh, I don't
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: like you and girls talk about the pussy. But like
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you some like real shit.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: RHAPSO is like always kind of. I feel like you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: guys are high level mcs, but I do feel like
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of dudes, for whatever reason, have like a
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: sexist taste of hip. It's weird thing though, yeah, because
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I I literally it was so funny.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I screenshot this this morning because I was like scrolling
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: or whatever, and then I saw some posts of like
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Travis Scott and some some dude who's like the only
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: man I would go gay for, And then there was
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: like three comments it was Travis and this, then that lady,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that one, that one lady that everybody says it's a witch,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and literally it's like why is she there? Why is
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: he there with her?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Right? And it's all.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: So there's like there's like like all the dudes. Yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the there's all these dudes saying why is she there?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Why is she there?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Only dude I would go gay for. I was at
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I was in in Vegas and it was like future
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: passed by and like literally it was packed or whatever,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and then there's just this dude like a love you twin,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I love you twin to him, like.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Right, and I'm just man groupies are wild. The man groupies.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Literally, I just have my release party and like the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: dudes were on the couch like there was pretty girls
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: right there. The dudes were on the couch like this,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and I literally had to get on the mic and
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: be like all the men, get out of my VIP section,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: get down and let the girls shake their ass Like I.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Was just like, what is happening? Dudes.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Dudes are very and I'm sure your comments are gonna
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: go crazy because I know there's.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: A lot of because there are so many like the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: male groupie, uh, epidemics, epidemic is spreading. It's it's cringey. Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: The craziest sh it is like where you'll be like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: because I have a nightclub in Scotts there that I'm
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a part owner of. Whenever we have an artist there
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: or some shit, you'll I'll see what my I'll see
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: motherfuckers go out of their way to try to sneak
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: into a section if we have like an artist, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, yo, who the fuck are you with? Like, bro,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. Like like people will
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like put all their pride to the side just to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: try to get there.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It'll be a dude that will be dogging a girl
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: like shit and.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Holding some yeah bottling ship. Oh my godness, that's what
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, Okay, so I have a song
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: called Painted White. You're not gonna tell me that that
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that that song is not relatable. Even a dude came
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: fucking hear that song and be like yeah, because I said,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I you claim the street smart.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: You don't know you left and right.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: You're a fucking idiot surrounded by the lame as guys.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Twenty dudes up in your section swear that the club
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: should raise the price. I blame all three pigmy bitches
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: in your section. Got you hype bottle gone and you're
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: just chasing all the juice to chase with.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Ice, chasing a juice to chase Well, that's true. That
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: be them, that is true. So why I want to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: ask you you you had a uh, you know, because
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I feel like you've had an interesting journey through music
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: where like you did the major label thing, you kind
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of you know, had to kind of just really building
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: this community, build this fan base on your own, because
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I remember when you're on Atlantic. I don't know if
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: anybody has ever been more mishandled. A lot of people
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: were mishandled by Atlantic, but you specifically, I want to
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: know how cool was it and or frustrating was it
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: when you get the Latin Grammy nomination. There had to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: be just the craziest switch up where like motherfuckers had
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to like really just like did like did did you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: feel people switch up or like start to come to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the party where you were like, oh, well, you know
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for I mean that you're an
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: og you know what I'm saying, Like that, how.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like you would think that certain moments to
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: live of like make people. But it almost okay, let's
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: use this whole thing. People voted for Trump. They see
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that they're wrong, and they almost want to hold onto
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that because they don't want to They don't want.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: To be like, oh I was wrong.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: So it's almost like the more that I do, the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: more people are just like nah, nah it like it
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: really I feel it.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I see it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Like there's been times where it's like people they just
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: don't want I don't know I don't know what it is,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: and I've had to go to a lot of therapy
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: to figure out that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Like, I just can't.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the moment that this industry sees it, right,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I just can't. You can only do like worry about
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: who does see it and who does support you. Right,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you the truth. This is pre pre therapy.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I signed to Atlantic to get the latinos in this
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: industry to give a fuck about me. I wouldn't have
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: gone there. I already had my I had recorded my
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: whole first project. I had like drunk Love, the song
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: that got me signed, Holy shit, the song that got
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: me signed.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I had already.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Recorded all that on my own with the same guy
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: that I just made this fucking with Poomba for me.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So I was like, my brother was doing the videos,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: my cousin's doing the merch, Poomba's doing my beats. It's
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the same fucking people. And that was pre Atlantic.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That was pre.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Street Signs, which was the label that came to me
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and tried to sign me right before. They had me
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: for like three months and then I got signed because
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I was so fucking that deal. So had it not
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: been for like my own people fucking me over with
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that deal that never got never paid me for the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: last twenty second years.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Fucking god, damn.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I don't even know twelve eleven because I feel like
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Atlanta was likeeen sixteen fourteen.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: No, it was like it was like Atlantic, who you
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: ended up with? Atlantic was fifteen fourteen.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: We're we're extra unking right now, not remembering any other
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: you got yeah, yeah, yeah, no, but yeah, you feel me.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: So it was like, I feel like looking for that
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: acceptance from people in this industry is what has led
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: me down the worst paths. So the only times I've
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: ever actually been happy or for example, got to got
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to the Latin Grammy Mountain Nation, got to all of
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: that was when I just stayed at home, stayed to
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: flow rap, put the shit out, fuck with my fans,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: did you show up?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: That's it?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You feel me like not even a manager. And this
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: is no shade to anyone who I've worked with as
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: a manager, but I do feel like I'm just such
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: a specific like artists, like being queer, being Latina, being
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: daughter of immigrants, being Mexican, being bilingual, being from where
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I'm from. There's just so many things that it's like, bro,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: by the time I argue with you, why I think
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: we should do this, I should have just done the shit.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to disrespect anybody's opinion. I'd rather
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: just like be by myself and just do it, you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: and by myself. It doesn't mean by myself, I'm my brother,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I'm my cousin.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: My family.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: It's just more like it's just so specific. And also
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it's about being happy. Bro. I think at the end
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: of the day, everybody just doesn't understand that artists mental
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: health is like so fucking important that if we if
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: we're not happy and healthy, nothing moves or it does,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: but we're gonna fucking kill ourselves.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: How many artists have not done it?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: You feel like I feel like there was a point
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: in time whe I feel like you were drinking a lot.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you ever kind of had any
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: issues with just I was fucking mile, I was depressed.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I was miserable, dude.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I remember it was around the time, around the time
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: where like we're like Peep died or rip and like
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: where a lot of different artists were just kind of like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: you know, either whether it was drugs or it was
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: street or it was whatever it was, like I did
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: see it just be bleak. I feel like this shit
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: is I feel like growing old as a rapper should
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: be looked at as a as like so much more
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: of a like great thing to happen, because so much
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: happens to us that it's like, bro, this shit fucking sucks,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: especially being a woman, like it sucks.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, You've been able to create an amazing
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: life based on your.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Talents, you know what, And mind you, look at what
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you said I was drinking. Do I think I had
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a problem? I mean, you see the every single fucking
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: male rapper every time you see them, Papa Champagne drinking
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: having bitches?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Who are men who I've been like, hey man, you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: are you good? Look at how many years did it
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: take to finally fake? Look at Didny not? Even like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: there's friends of the show who have serious drinking problems
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: who I've had to be like, hey, yeah, but mind you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, for example, when I was drinking, and shit,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: it's like I was drinking. I was going through like
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: all this shit and it's like, at least I didn't
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: do what I could have done, because I could have
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: fucked a lot of people that I could have gone
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: on the internet and said the wildest. I literally just
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: knew at least how to keep my composure enough to
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: get on that bus, get to the next show, sell
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the fucking tickets, perform my fucking show, go back in
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the bus, do it again, like just shut up and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: dribble basically, and eventually, thank god, I uh just had to,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you know, face reality and be like, bitch, we can't
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: keep doing this shit.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So what inspired you to start going to therapy?
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I went to counseling and therapy, Like throughout my life,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I've done it because I've I'm really I'm really neuro diversion,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Like I really do have ADHD, so it's hard to
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: deal with sometimes, so I've always done it. I think
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: as an adult, I thought I was over all my
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: childhood trauma.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Shit.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, whatever, I already know you
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's like, we know what it is.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't until this last time that I really
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: started up that I was like, oh shit, Like, even
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: though you know what it is and you can point
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: at it, doesn't mean you are healed from it, you know.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the biggest thing. It's always going
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: to be a work in progress. It's always going to
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: be constantly, constantly checking on everything and just realizing that it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Just is what it is.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Man, Sometimes we can't let go. There's been debts in
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the family. There's been people that you're not going to
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: see ever again. There's you know, issues maybe with parents
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: not accepting you. You know what I'm saying, It's like,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: how do you get over not being accepted because you're
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: gay by the person that's supposed to love you, Like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: there's I can't imagine.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: That's Yeah, that's crazy. So would you suggest like, because
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people are so hesitant
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to like get to the point where they go sit
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: down because they think it makes them weak or some shit.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: But I feel like everybody needs a little bit of
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: therapy at some point. Yeah.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Well, anytime you're overcompensating, it's because you do feel weak, right,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Like even me, Like people will be like, oh, I'm
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: confrontational or I'm talking all this shit, and it's like, yeah, inside,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: like sometimes we feel maybe I'm defending immigrants and doing
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: all that because I feel some people didn't defend me.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: So maybe I'm defending people who need to be defended.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe whenever I'm talking and on behalf of like people
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: who have suffered abuse or whatever. I'm doing it because
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: like maybe when I was young, I wish somebody would
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: have defended me, Like same thing with a lot of y'all,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Like maybe there's people that are right now just being
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: extra tough or whatever, and it's like, you never know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you might be able to funnel that energy into something
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: positive and actually be able to help the world. And
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I will say it's way more fulfilling to like put
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: that energy into something positive than it is to just
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: like go out there and fire or fucking get.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Drunk, right right, yeah, one hundred percent. I know, like
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: when you have this moment a few years ago and
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you get the nomination for the Grammy, that there had
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: to have been a lot of major labels or situations
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: knocking on your door where you tempted it all to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: jump back in the matrix.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's been my biggest thing, is like whenever
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I have had those moments, there has been times when
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I low key get pulled a little bit back in
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the matrix, and then I end up like being mad
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: at myself because I'd be like, bitch.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: You knew not to give that motherfucker a chance. And
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I know for a fact because I could at that time.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I know I was I was working with Empire at
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that time, and I know Empire was interested. I know
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, wait, she's independent. At
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the time, you didn't have a manager, which you ended
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: up getting a manager for a little bit, but obviously
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: your manager list right now. But I just always wonder, like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I have a manager, I'm my own manager, right you're
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: managed Snow, managed by Snow.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Period.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: It works, but I do know, like I've had homies
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: of mine who have a really bad taste in their
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: mouth for the major label system and then they get
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: on the other side of it and they have a
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: moment and then they end up back in the major
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: label system. And sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't work.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like, well you should just stay independent. But
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: like I always wonder like that moment specifically, it's hard,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it's difficult. Here's some of those numbers you're hearing. You're like,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: how much is the advance?
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's difficult, mostly because you know that this
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: is a machine, you know, I know that like being
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: independent means being independent the way I am means bitch,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: they are not coming to help you. There's not gonna
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: be anything, you know. So so it does get tempting
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: because you're like, dude, I could, I could be on
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: their team and then they'll help me, you know. But
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it's like it just feels that much worse when they don't.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm at this point it's really like a bad relationship.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: It's like you could keep giving that relationship that chance
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and just it never fucking works out.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: So why do it?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, dude, at this point, I never
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: even needed that much, like as far as like even
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: like money or success, Like I think I'm living a
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: pretty good life. I like where I'm at, like, and
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: sometimes I struggle with whether that's fear, like whether I'm
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: scared to go bigger, or if it's also just peace.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think it's I think quality of
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: life is also like peace of mind because sometimes like
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I could always use a bigger house and I always
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: use nicer things and more money to make it was like, yo,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: peace of mind is really the real I think, like
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: barometer of success, like can you can you do what
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you love and make sure everybody around you straight. And
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: when you go to sleep at night, are you happy?
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I wake up, when I wake up in
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the morning, like I'm a peaceful morning at the ranch,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: or I'm gonna be like stressed out overthinking, oh my god,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: did we get this?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Did we get that? My bottom line.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Isn't huge, So I could, you know, kind of do
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: what I need to do as opposed to when you
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: all the label, all that money they give you that
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: big as advanced.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And that's it, and that's it. Now you got to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: hit the road. Yeah, you gotta. Well, I mean you
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: have you have obviously the ability to monetize so much,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: you know, outside of just like the streams, because so
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: many artists the only thing they can do is get
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: an advance because they don't have fans. Yeah, and I don't.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not focusing so much on streams, Like even though
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I'm streaming, well, I'm not focusing on streams right now.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Like I'm really I went directed consumer. I went you know, like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: pay what you can or pay what you want on
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  Speaker 2: the album, get the physical copy, go see me on tour,
• 43:07
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• 43:11
  Speaker 2: something cities or whatever. It's like that's my focus and
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm still streaming better than some of the Every time
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: they make these fucking these lists of like you know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Mexican American artists or Mexican American rappers, is like they
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: they tend to leave me out, and I'm.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Like, nothing happen a lot. I've noticed like when like
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• 43:29
  Speaker 1: like Shouts of Food Community and those guys, like when
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: they do their list Snow's always like kind of kind
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I literally be asking myself. I'm like, are
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  Speaker 2: they going based off ticket sales per year? Are they
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  Speaker 2: going based off monthly listeners on Spotify? Are we going
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  Speaker 2: based off like streams?
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  Speaker 1: Like? What are we going based off?
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  Speaker 2: It's not even just a woman complaining. I'm just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know any of these lists.
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  Speaker 1: feel like you know you're one of those artists that
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Tech calls every couple of years to hit get on
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: his album. What can you just kind of explain your guys'
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: relationship and what has been like to kind of have
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Tech nine embrace you, you know, from an early stage
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: in your career the techs, Like, I feel like if
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you go to a snow show, there's like this cool
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: gumbo pot of fans who know you from different shit,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's like a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: very diverse crowd. It's very different, Like you're like very
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: much like you have your own thing. But I know,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I know like a lot of my friends like first
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: got hit to you from from like hearing you on
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a Tech record.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's always told me that he's really a fan
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: of my like technical skills rapping. Yeah, So like there'll
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: be times where I'll drop a song or whatever and
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: he'll randomly just text me the song and be like goddamn,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: like that right, And I know, like like now I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: know the technicalities of that he's talking about because he won't.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: It won't be every song, but it'll be like specific
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: things I do in a song where he'll be like
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: that shit was fire, you know. So I think just
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: as a fan of like rap music, when you get
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: to a certain technical standpoint or for example, lyric like
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: me being friends with Tech nine and Immortal Technique to
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: me is like it speaks to me as an artist
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: as a rapper, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, industry, whatever, lists,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: whatever we're talking about is whatever. But like when we're
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: really sitting here talking that I were bar for bar
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: up up there, I'm like, okay, boom, Like I I
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: feel that's the type of ship that keeps me going
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: that I'm like, okay, I'm not tripping.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like if some of the greatest of all
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: time are are fans of you, that tells you, like
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: all you really need to know that's yeah, because otherwise
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I don't quit a long time ago FU fan, Like
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: like who cares what a blog says, like yeah Tech
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: nine is hit, and you're like yo, if Immortal tech
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: who's also one of them? One or even.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Whenever, like I'm in the room with like one of
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: these huge fucking artists and they go snow and I'll
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: be like then it at least just for me, reality
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: just doesn't feel as like fucked off because sometimes I'd
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: be like damn, Like I must be garbage, Like what
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: the fuck, like these these fucking big publications don't. But
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: then I'm like, no, it must be something else. Maybe
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: it's because I don't know, people probably think I'm a bitch.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think people probably thinking I'm a bitch, Like yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: because think about it, most people don't really see me
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: on the day to day. They see that one clip
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: where I said, everybody suck my dick, like, so people
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: are just like, every time I see this girl, she's
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: going off. But it's like, that's because those are the
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: moments that go viral. The moment that went viral was
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: me saying that, which, by the way, I forgot I
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: said that till the next morning when my girl was
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: watching the damn video the way she was watching it,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: and I like, wake up and I just hear me,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: and I was.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Like I said that. I was like, whight I say that?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And then I watched the clip and I was like, Okay,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I ate that, yeah because it was true. Yeah, because
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of I know the demographic of
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: of the people that were there, and I know the
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: demographic of the people that were backstage, and I know
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the demographic of the people that voted for Trump. So
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I knew that that's what it was, but I don't know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: let's just not pussy foot.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Around it, would you?
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, for example, hanging out with you know, Mario
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Lopez or something. It's like people who are very friends
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: with Mario obez, like you know what you're doing.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Is Mario Lopez a trumper? I don't know. I don't know.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Is he? Is he? Oh?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Is he?
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know? Well, I mean, like obviously, like, would
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you ever have a conversation with a guy like Magic
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: because you guys just have a relationship. Digging was a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: dope record with you him and Twister? Like mm hmm,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Like if you guys ran into each other backstage, would
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you holler at him like or is? Because he's a legend?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Magic is a legend. He's obviously you know, he's empty. Magic.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: He just celebrated thirty years you know, would you ever
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: have a combo with him?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like if the conversation was live streamed and
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: we were able to actually just put it out there
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: into the world, Yeah, not an edited, chopped up ass
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: live stream that makes me look crazy. No, because there's
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: been plenty of drums borders that are like down to
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: do content, and I'm.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm down to do it live live.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so you so you don't do the whole
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: chopping and making shit weird or whatever, because I do
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: think right now it is time for us to kind
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: of like like talk about this stuff so hopefully it
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't get any worse, because I do think it's gonna
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: get worse. And I'm not just talking about ice An immigration.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about like just the country in general.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Just I feel like there's this crazy divide and then like.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And then AI and then how much bots and then
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: how much how the social awkwardness right now with so
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: many people, So it's like there's just even when you
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: go out in the street, like we've gone like right
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: after tromp One, like we've gone out on the street,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: like getting the N word and getting like all this
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: stuff like hard r like getting talked too crazy, like.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And that's here, that's in La Bro.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: That's actually in a fancy restaurant where you're just like, bro,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: what the fuck is happening?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, feel like we're in this like weird space where
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: they're every like legitimately all these billionaire fools really just
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: don't want anybody to do anything but stay home and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: like put on VR glasses and fucking they want to.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Sell you everything they wanted to. They want you to
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: order it on Amazon.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: They don't ever want you to leave your fucking house. Idiocrasy.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I watched Idiocracy, like probably I
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: rented it back in the that's how old that movie
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: was when.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: It was like I own it on my fucking phone,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: like I pull it out and show it depends.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: So it's funny because I remember watching it and then
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: like even the like the last Trump win my boy
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: was like you got to rewatch Idiocracy, and I rewatched it.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: It's probably been like five or six years since I
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: watched it again, but even more now than ever.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when he's just sitting in the couch and he
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: just has like the and he's playing the.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Game Gray Player one. That's the thing is I do
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: feel like like there I'm like a hell of crazy
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, because I do feel like every movie is
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: purposely put out there to try to condition people to
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: just like to normalize certain things, like we're talking about
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: earlier aliens, like I feel like Ready Player won Idiocracy
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: even the movie there was a movie that what was
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the name of that movie with Julia Roberts that the
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Obamas produced that was on Netflix last year. Yeah, where
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: it's essentially like the whole movie is like, if America
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: were to crumble, it'd be because we got rid of
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: like the internet went out and there was no TV,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: no internet. Yeah, and we were fed a narrative and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: then Americans turned against each other. Yes, but I just.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Feel likely or like the Civil War movie.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, Civil War is one of those ones.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Did you just watch it that it was fairly new, right, Yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: it came out like last year.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like people forget that this shit can
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: really happen because like we're wearing regular clothes. They're like, no, way,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: civil War was back when you know whatever. But it's like, no, motherfucker,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: like it can happen. We're gonna be wearing Jordan's the
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Civil War, like what the fuck? And also like I
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: forgot what the fuck I was gonna say, Oh, the pandemic.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when we when they were like, oh,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: they're gonna shut down and everybody's like yeah right, and
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: they were like nah, I remember being told like starting
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: this Friday, you can't be out until whatever whatever. I
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: was like, the fuck, I was like, what are you
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: gonna tell me not to be outside?
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: And then the thing, you know, I think that'shere. California
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: got it wrong though, because I think it cost so
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: many people, like small businesses and like. But that's the
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: thing I thought.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I went to Florida and got COVID so bad I
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: can't smell to this fucking day.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Oh damn this shit. I was out there with the gloves.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I was fucking pumping gas with fucking rubber gloves on
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: and ship I was fucking I was paranoise. That's why
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you're still alive.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe, Like I think, I don't think California got it wrong.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like had everybody jumped to it right away,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: we would have prevented a lot of death, because I
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: do think, even even me till this day, like I
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: feel like.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: My heart like all kinds of shit they were doing
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: was they were allowing outdoor catering on movie sets, but
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: they weren't allowing outdoor dining at restaurants, so it was
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: kind of like a It was like, yo, if you're
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: gonna do that, you got to at least allow these
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: restaurants to have a chance to survive by having an outdoor,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I think in general,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: it just feels like, you know, all of the identity
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: issues as you if you will, are like always kind
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: of played against. It's a class war all the other shit,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: whether it's you know, I always say, like, you know,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: when you think about like some of the like deciding
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: things that decided the election, you know, I think about
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: like the trans thing, and I'm like, yo, the trans
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: thing literally doesn't affect most people's lives. Like it's like,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: like how many people actually have experienced, like their daughter
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: playing against a trans athlete in a high school sport.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Like what are we talking about here? Like this shit
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: is like literally a non issue in terms of like
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: how you actually live your life. Everything.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Yay, it's like one percent less than one percent.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: It's like the the the what's the word?
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: The fucking reading level and the comprehension level in the
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: United States is seventh grade. So yes, of course, if
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: you go boys in girls' bathroom bad, and everyone's like, yes,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: boys and girls bathroom bad. But then you're telling them like, bro,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: that is a one percent or you start saying certain
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: words that are way too like elevating.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I think that's why the left fucked up, because they
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: started digging in on these issues that didn't really It's like, yo,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: just the shit that matters is like affordability, the middle
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: class being able to afford homes again, yeah, and like
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: just and yeah, I mean that's the other thing is
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: like the first go round, like I was very much
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: like if you voted for Trump, like I stopped talking
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: to my cousin, like, oh, just hard cut off one
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: of my closest cousins. This go round, I was like, man,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the Biden years were kind of interesting. So if somebody
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: if you wore a red hat, I'm obviously to me
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: that's different because you're a fucking cult member. But if
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: someone told me, yeah, think I'm gonna I vote for Trump,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I would I didn't necessarily like shut that person down immediately,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense, because I felt like the Biden
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: years were very like like whatever, bro, like you know
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I'm not. But but now it's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like when you see people like like we were talking
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: about earlier, just like doubling down. I'm like, yo, how
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: do you not see this shit? Is insane. Yeah, like
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: what are we doing? And then you know, for me too,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: like the fact that the Biden administration was like funding
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the genocide in Gaza was like crazy. So it's like
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: if you didn't vote for fucking Trump or if you
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: didn't vote for First.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: But that's everybody. I feel like the United States is compromised, right, Yes,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: the United States is absolutely com We know that, and
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: I hate that every time that you talk about that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: If you talk anything about Israeli, immediately they think you're
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: anti semi but you're not, because there's no problem like
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: you're you were talking about these people were told in
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: the United States, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican whatever.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: The government. So there's there's different things.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: That you know what I'm saying, Like when I was
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: saying anti Maga or whatever it was, how could you
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: sit here and hear Project five and here Steven Miller
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: and here all these all these people and still be
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: on that side or be with the red hats and
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: and and all that. That's one thing Republican versus Democrat,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: of course, like yeah, I can agree with you. The
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: fucking Democrats sit there and start talking and all these
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: different little like even when I went to to the
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Sanders thing, like I was hearing some people talking, I
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: was like, that doesn't make sense.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: So it is so much like yeah, like I love
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Bernie Bernie, and I.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Love I love Bernie Sanders, but the people that are
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: supporting start digging their heels on so many different night
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: that it splinters off into a million movements that all
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: attack each other, and it just all like caves in
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: as opposed to on this side, they're just like fucking races,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: And then a couple of Mexicans that also I think,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: like the splintering of the right yes with each other.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, is Marjorie Taylor Green making sense? Right?
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: What the fuck Kennice Owens has got bars all of
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: a sudden.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's kind of crazy.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: It's it's I'm you know, I'm just we'll see what
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: happens in the midterms.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: In my in my in my mind, I feel like, good,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: good thing that that's happening, and we know that there's
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be a what's the word, like a pendulum spendulum
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: swinging the other way. I just hope that by the
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: time it happens. We're not too far gone because the
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: United States is being sold for parts right now, right
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: we're getting by the time we get there, it's like
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: what do we have.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: To work with? Shop right now? And they're breaking it down.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: You take what's happening in Mexico right now, Like everybody's
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: just like, oh, well, why is in clydeas shame bo
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I'm fixing all these things.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: And it's like, bro, it's.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Been fucking years and years and years of Mexico being
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: so fucked up, and then all of a sudden you
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: get here and you're like, well, tap tap, it's fucking
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: six months and you're like, dude, yeah, I get it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Like now it's closed. I can't even imagine what it
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: like to be in that position in a country like Mexico.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: And it's it's been compromised all those years by United
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: States and Canada going in. So to me, it's like
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: finally Mexico and a lot of these Latin American countries
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: are having a backbone and they're saying, hey, we are
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: sovereign country. You're not gonna fuck with us. And of
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: course here comes the stupid shit. They start the propaganda
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: in Mexico.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: They start saying, well, no, the shit they're doing with
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Venezuela is insane. They're literally trying to act like we
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: get drugs from Venezuela and I'm like, hey, guys, literally
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: no fetanol comes from Venezuela at all. It comes from
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: China through Mexico to the fucking United States. Like this
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: is a not They're literally just trying to take the oil. Yeah,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: they just fucking stole a fucking oil rig, Like we're
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: fucking pirates.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're the pirates now.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: And then you got Pete Heg. SAT's fucking posting all
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: these videos of fucking just unnamed people getting murdered in boats.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: It's fucking insane. Bro. I just know, like you said,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I hope whenever the pendulum does swing, we're not too
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: far gone, because if we're not, a lot of motherfuckers
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: are going to prison. Yeah.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be hard, though, Like the more that.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Because some of those some of those boat strikes are
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: fucking illegal, like they're just murdering people with no fucking
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: like due process. Like it's it's wild.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: The money, bro, you got to follow the money, and
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: there's too much money. A lot of people can be bought.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: A lot of men can be bought.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: All those major corporations are donating to building the new
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: ballroom at the White House right now because he destroyed
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the East Wing at the White House, and three hundred
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: companies are paying for the new ballroom. And so it's
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: like anyone on like Apple pallenteer, it's it's it's gets
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: spooky times. It's definitely if every once in a while,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: be like, damn, Like is the end of the world? Like,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: am I going to see the end of the Am
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I going to see the end of the United States Empire? Like?
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Will I be alive for that? I think I might be?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Like, it's kind of and then only if you travel
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: do you realize do you like, other countries really got
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: some cool shit.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I went to Japan. Japan's ship, Yeah, so crazy. Everything's clean,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: you know. Obviously you can't smoke weed, which kind of sucked.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: You probably don't have told you can smoke weed in Thailand,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: you know, and the Yeah, when I was working on
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: this project, I was like about to move to Mexico
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and everything. My kid's fifteen, so he's turned sixteen at
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: this point. I gotta have that conversation with him, like, baby,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: you know if I'm leaving, Like, what's up?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: You coming? What we're doing like taking care of the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: ranch while I'm gone, Baby Drew ranch. He's gonna have
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a dad.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: He's gonna turn it into a fucking content house.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be. It will be a content house
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent will be insane. No, what part of
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Mexico would you move?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Wells and I have some land there. I have a
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: house in Tulom, I have you know, I have my
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: different spots to figure out where I'm gonna.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I love tou loom looms beautiful. There's a so. The
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: closest beach to Phoenix is a place called Porto Penasco,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: which is in Sonora. It's a it's like a three
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: hour drive from Phoenix. It's fire, It's like it's like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a secret still. There's resorts on the water and ship
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and the water is like super warm. But eventually I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: was like me and my wife talking about buying a
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: condo there because we go every summer. But eventually it's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: like Tulum. Though. I feel like during COVID man Tuloom
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: blew the fuck up became.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait for everybody to just leave, yeah,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: and just leave it to like everybody else.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Sorry, have you been in Mexico City? Yeah, I heard
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: it's like the best.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mexico City is amazing.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: We're we're on our way over there and like a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: few couple like a week and a half or two,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I love it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like what I had, a beautiful Monterey is beautiful,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: you know, beautiful. It's all beautiful, man. And that's I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: think that was the biggest thing that was kind of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: being a bummer when when the trumpy stuff was coming up,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: is that they just kept on being like shithold countries
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: and even Mexicans. I was watching Mexican American people talking
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: bad about Mexico, and I'm like, do you not get
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: the propaganda?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Do you not get that?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Right now, Canadians, Europeans, freaking Argentina's Americans are all buying
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: up Mexico and you're sitting here buying up the propaganda
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: that Mexico sucks. Meanwhile, all these people are buying up
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: your fucking land like you should be buying it. I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: got in trouble with Mexico for that because then I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: had people from Mexico telling me that I'm making American
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Americans when I'm literally saying, Mexican Americans should stop being
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: scared of buying in Mexico because everyone else is fucking
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: buying it.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Don't let them buy your shit.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: When later on you're gonna fucking regret it, right, you
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: And so I don't know.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like it is difficult to be the person
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: saying this because because I'm so close into the Mexico
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: like they talk shit and then Americans.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, hey man, Mexican Americans should
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: be way more prouder of being from Mexico and you
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: should stop listening to your parents. I tell you it's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: a shithole. Like invest into Mexico.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful. And every I always tell this because uh
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: my dentists and TJ. I always the people will be like, yo,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: you go to t T one and like we'll have
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I'll go to dinner, I'll stay to night like I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: love TJ. They got the best mad East Coast, and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: then Portoanuevo, which is like maybe like forty five minutes south.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: It's like the lobster. I don't know if it's a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: lobster capital, but it's fucking cad. Hey, we gotta wrap
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• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: a few years ago. Nice, he's become a friend over
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: the years. So it was dope to see you guys,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: because you guys are both kind of independent juggernauts. Yeah,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: talk about your guys' linkup. Who reached out to who?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: How did it happen? And I think, how did that happen?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: I think I like, I was like, yo, you're killing
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: in and then he was like, yo, like you fucking
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: set a blueprint.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: And then we were both.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Talking and he was talking to me about how like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I've been doing this and I'm kind of setting a
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: bootprint and the immigrant I mean in the sorry in
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: the industry. And then I told him, I'm like, you're
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the reason that people are even looking this way. I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: feel like Russ L Russell like different artists that they
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: they people are even noticing how successful you could be
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: as an independent artist. So it's really becoming a valuable
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: lane as opposed to sometimes when you're just independent, people
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: think it's synonymous with like unsuccessful.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Right, because you talked about like with your your being
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: able to go straight to the fans to spend money,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: like pay what you want. Do you feel like because
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: rus L Russell rather Russ too, though Russ fuck man,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Russ has been preaching this independent shop forever, but you've
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: been doing it in your own way. Was was any
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: of the way that you're kind of rolling out the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: album like inspired by what Russell kind of was doing,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I think even.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Back since the Nipsey days, right, like right, but like he.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Was the first one obviously, Yeah, yeah, with the one
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars mixtape. Yeah, I feel like I just love
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: to pay what you want like that shit's fired.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have a Prince tattoo, like I
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: feel so like, you know, from Prince to Nipsey to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Lo Russel to Russ to me to anybody who's who's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: out here really like trying to pave the way for
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: more people to do it and for it to be
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: more acceptable. It's just you're fighting the big machine. The
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: big machine to me, like it broke my heart. Like
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: this music shit has broke my heart multiple times, just
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: because sometimes you'll be sitting there and looking at someone
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: and be like, bro, I thought we was the homies
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, all right, so it was like
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: an industry thing or like a money thing or whatever,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: and it's like you really see people for what it is.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: So I think, power to your own team, power to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: the fans, power to that connection, power to building. You know,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: ten thousand real fans is better than a million fake.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: If you're starting ten thousand fans that will spend money
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: with you and support you, Fuck, you're gonna be good
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: for life and that'll fucking make you feel better.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Bro, Like, fuck the money sometimes like I've literally gone
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: live when I'm having like I'm literally on the edge,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: like I'm like, bro, I feel like shit. And I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: have fans like yo, really reaching out, like really giving
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: a fuck, really being.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Like actually help you. It really helps you, bro.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: So it's like the power of a thousand people even
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: just just really giving a fuck about you. Can you
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: imagine like some of us that don't really like have
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: close relationship with some of our family, like seeing people
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: throughout all these fucking years give a fuck is it
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: means more to me And it makes me not question
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: my reality so much because it's like, no, there's there's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: these people and I see them every year and they
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: go and they and I see them at the shows
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: and they fuck with me.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: And you probably have fans that you've been seeing on
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: the road like for like over a decade now where
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, I know, if I go to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: this city, I'm gonna see so and so. Yeah, like
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be there no matter what. Yeah.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I have a song on this album called Mariposa for
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: an art for a fan that passed away recently and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: her name Celia, and she was one of my first
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: fans and like when I first started. I remember I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: had so little bit of fans that like I drove
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: like two hours to go see her. Like I was
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: at some city and I was like, I'm gonna go
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: see We're gonna go see Celia because she was the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: only one of the only people supporting me, you know.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: So it's like I went and I saw her, I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: met her family and we took pictures and everything. And
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: it's like throughout all the years, I would see her
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: every year at multiple shows, and you know, she just
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: became this staple to my fan base of like Celia's here,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: you know, like we know who she is. And so
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: now that she passed, like to me, it was very
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: difficult this year to just be like is that a sign?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Is that a sign of just like you know, age career,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: like where I'm at, Like what's happening now I'm losing
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: people that I started with. Like it gets to that
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: point where it just gets.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: A little sad, you know, a little like did you
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Cause it's funny like that word woke, Like your your
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: fan base was like you were pushing the woke shit.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people with woke tattoos and and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden woke becomes this like weird
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: negative word that the Right rebrands. I noticed, like, are
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: you not, like, is the woke thing still something that
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: you push or because that's I feel like that's your
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: own thing, that's separate from whatever any connotations, like normal
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: people might think it means, but it was your thing.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: I think the woke thing became very blurry even before,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: even even before the Right branded it, like you know,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: everything just exists, you know, like if we're talking if
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: we're talking real wokeness, if we're talking real awareness, it's
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: like everything is. You know, you pull in, you pull
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: ideas from fucking the universe, and if it's not with you,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: it'll be with someone else, and everybody could simultaneously be
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: thinking of different things.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll have its second wind in a positive way.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I think it needs to. I think I think what
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: has been done. I think the Right can turn anything
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: into a negative thing. Right, isn't the like any like,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: for example, the concept of make America great, It's like
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: it could be it could be a good thing if
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: it was handled by anyone else, But these motherfuckers turned
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: it into what does make America great again? Mean? Like
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: you know, when dudes were beating their wives and you know,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: whatever they were doing.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: So it's like I was just wondering because like, I'm
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: sure like you sold so much, like merged just the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: tattoos out. Do your frians ever hit you and be like, yo,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: what's up are we bringing? Walk back? Like not understand
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: in your way? My fans are smart, you know, they
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: They're like, girl, we saw what the fuck happened, and yeah,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: of course they wanted to like push and whatever. But
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I'm already fighting so much, like I'm
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: constantly fighting for so much, and I'm like, I don't
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: even think that I think we know who we are,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: and like you know, I, I uh, I don't know, Bro,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: you stumped me.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like it sucks that most of my
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: life has been kind of having to unfortunately go against
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: the grain, But I also don't know why the grain
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: is always built against people like me.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like we were talking a little bit earlier,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: like you have for whatever you've been through in the
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: music industry, the fact that you've been able to no
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: matter what was going on behind the doors of a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: major label or whatever. You were able to go and
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: touch the people and sell out venues and build this
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: fan base that supports you. So it's like most people,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: there's people who have triple five million, ten million records
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: sold whatever it is that cannot fucking sell out a
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: fucking shoe box. So it's like, like you were saying,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: it's like you'd rather I would You'd rather have that
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: fan base than like one record, two records? Like, yeah,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: maybe I see so many guys who like so many
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: toys have gotten canceled recently because I saw that. Yeah,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: So say, whose tours are not getting canceled? Know the products?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I'm dead? Yeah, are you taking anybody out on the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: road with you? No? As of right now. I mean
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: We we announced it pretty early, so it's not for sure,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like it's still December and
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: then we don't go out till March. So right now,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: if even though the way time's been going right now,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: right next thing you know, it's there.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And we're like, what the fuck is going on? This
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: year has flown by.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: So as of right now, no, I I have a
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: really cool idea for the crash Out the grash Out sessions.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: What I want to do.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: I'm taking Mondays and Tuesdays off on the road so
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: that I could do my podcast on the road. I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: want to interview cool people throughout the country, Like I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: want to basically take the podcast on the road, make
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: content stream.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: You know. Connection. I think that's it.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: I think for twenty twenty six, my word is just
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: connect with as many people learn from people, like fucking
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: have a whole conversation. I have this kid that that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: was a Trump supporter that's coming on my podcast. He's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: down to have a conversation, and I'm like, I'm down
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: to the conversation too, because like kid, uh yeah, a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Mexican kid. He just he's just like yo, like I'm
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: down to talk. He's like and I was like, I'll
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: blow your face if you want, Like I don't know
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: how the conversation is going to go, but we could
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: just do it. And he was like no, He's like,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: I'll stand on you know what I did, and I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: want to have a conversion. I was like, period, Like
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: that's how simple it is to just kind of like
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: reach across the table and be like all right, what
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: are we doing it's important, you know, those conversations.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: It's like you can't hate your neighbor. Yeah, you know
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: It's like social it comes burning down, we gotta say,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: we gotta save each other.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be everybody versus the motherfucking AI. Bro, that's
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: what the fuck's coming. Are you scared of it? Oh?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I mean it's the It's inevitable though. Yeah. So it's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: like it's like being scared of like the Internet. It's like,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: I truly believe in the next ten years, like most
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: jobs are gone. I think like we're at the beginning
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: of like a real serious great depression. You know, you
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: know how people be like jobs.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Jobs being gone means maybe we'll be able to be
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: more creative and we'll be able to have time. It's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: like I don't think so, Like, I think we're gonna
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: have to do the sad No, I think we're gonna
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: have this, like the the physical labor jobs. Like I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: think we're gonna be so desperate that they're gonna make
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: us do the really hard jobs that AI can do.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Because Elon Musk's robot can't even pour those drinks.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Well, they were saying, you saw that. Yeah, yeah, I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: saw it. Yeah yeah, well yeah, all those well all
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: those robot demos that they've been rolling out, all the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: companies they're being controlled by like humans like in the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: other room. Yeah, it's bullshit, but I still have that
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: to say that. They keep saying that the jobs that
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: the new millionaires that are going to be created after
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: this AI boom will be plumbers and electricians and contractors,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: because AI can't replace a plumber, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Like they you can't fucking send some robot over your
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: house to fucking dig up a fucking pipe and fix
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the shit, or you know what I'm saying. So that's
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I would tell you, like anybody who either learn the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: fuck how how you can like build the AI models
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: for different companies, like learn that shit, don't just ignore it.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: But then if you're like I want to I don't
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: know what to do, Should I go to school to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: be a you know, I don't know whatever the fuck?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Go to school and like learn how to do some
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: shit with your hands. Yeah, hvac, plumbing, electrician. I agree,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: But I feel like.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: That all these companies, all these private equity companies are
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: buying up all those small mom and pop of all that, though.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Well, they're also buying up all of the residential houses,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: so there's no like, like it's crazy, like people our
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: age can't afford entry level homes anymore. Yeah, at the average. Yeah,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: I think home by her age right now is like
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: fifty two. It's like back in the day we used
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: to be, Like, Man, if I could just pull together
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: like ten fifteen bands, I could throw a little fucking
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: down payment down and get fah long shit right, that
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: shit to get you a studio apartment in fucking Lancaster.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe you could raise your family in there. You guys
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: could sleep on top of each other. Jesus Christ, that's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: what's happening. It's fucked. It is fucked. It's like I said,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: it's a class war. They got us fighting over all
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: this other shit while they're while they're fucking sitting at
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: the White House fucking ballroom that they're all donating to build. Yeah,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. How do you feel about rap right now? Though?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's in a good place. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: if you want to find the good ship. Yeah, it's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite years in hip hop in a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: long time now. Whether or not you think like rap
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: is pop again, or like you know, obviously there's this
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: conversation about hip hop and the Billboard charts. I don't
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: care about any of that. I'm just a fan.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: So I feel like that got that got fucked u
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: because they changed the rules.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: That's what I try to tell everybody. They changed the rules.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Everybody, everybody doubled down on that so bad they're hip hop.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I told you all that happened was a rule. That's
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: like even like people trying to be like, oh, Kendrick
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Lamar's song fell all the way off, I'm like, no,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: they changed the rules because it was on so long.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I try to tell everybody. With the new rules,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: any of the Billboard records that are currently there, like
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I think, what's Gabra's name, Little nas X, whatever the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: fuck that's that record will never get broken now because
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: the new rules, it's not possible for like the Old
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Town Road to ever be taken the record because after
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: a certain amount they take it off, it's it's considered
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: a recurrent. So yeah, they changed rule. But yeah, in
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: terms of hip hop, I think this year was dope.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: I think clips showed like everybody like you could be
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: in your fifties and like still have a cultural moment,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: go on tour, sell out everywhere. Yeah, there was some
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: incredible hip hop this year. Fucking Freddy Gibbs to Chains,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Larry June had a dope album. Chance the Rapper had
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: a really good album this year. I thought it was
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: a great hip hop year, one of my favorites in
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: a long time, price since like twenty twenty. But Clips,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Clips is fucking Notas just dropped the DJ premiere, Like so.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: You're more like you like that type of like more
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, okay.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm a fucking but that's whey like but
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: ye okay, yeah, Like last night I was at this.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I went to Sway, so I know you were in
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: the merchant or that. It's cool to see because I'm
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: like like last night I went to Sway and King Tech.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: They did this thing of this world famous like where
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: they for the culture, where they like give awards to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: people who they think like are underappreciated and hip hop culture.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: So like last night, like Crooked Eye Can Crooked and
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: like raz Cat and a large professor all got honored
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: and I was just like a fucking like a pig
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: and ship. I was like, I love this ship. Man.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I got to see the rizz of last night. I'm dead.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: It was fucking awesome. But yeah, that's Doe. I'm a dusty,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: dusty hip hop guy, you know, period.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I mean and that, and I think that's The splending
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: of hip hop also has has had an impact on
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: what's going on, because now there's just so many subgenres,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Like hip.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Hop is such a big thing. Yeah, like whatever Playboy
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Cardi's doing is its own.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Little Yeah, it's like cool, that's y'all. And then there's this,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: and then there's that, and I think it's.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: And I respect, like there's some Playboy Cardi shit. I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: love like, but you know, the kids got their own.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Like I went to NBA Young Boy and I went
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: to two concert tour dates because I wanted to see
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: the Young Boy shit live and uh, I was fucking
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: that ship was crazy. It was insane. Yeah, it was
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: like a whole crowd full of motherfuckers and ski masks
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: and it was Yeah, it was wild. Yeah, I mean
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: my son, but I fuck with young like, young boys
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: are good, ud Like I went to interviewed him at
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: his house when he was on house arrest, but I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: just was like I gotta see this ship like and
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: it was. I'm like, this is It's just so cool
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: because like whatever world you're in or whatever, like pocket
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: of like hip hop you're into, Like it's so small
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: compared to like, there's so much to this culture that
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: is like you said, it's there's such subgenres that are crazy,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: like yeah, which is.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: A good thing, right because so many people, I think
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: now more than ever, so many people are making a
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: good living.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: In their niche. Like there's there's there's this bro who
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: does uh, what's that that lo fi ship? You know?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: You ever throw on a low fi YouTube video and
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: it's like a Simpsons character like Bob in their head
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: for eight hours. Yeah, there's like low fi rap now
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: it's his own thing. These guys sell out shows and
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't even know this fucking exists. Yeah.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: I like going to those little sub like you know what,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: I I didn't even know this was here, something like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: super random shows because you're like I I like to
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: just find new worlds with this, you know. So yeah,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: but I think it's good for hip hop. Well, your
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: album is out before I crash.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Out m H thirty songs, thirty Well it's twenty eight and.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: The EP right, Yeah, so I got a lot of traction,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: and there's there's some stuff that's on there that's pretty cool,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: and then there's some stuff that I'm excited about. I honestly,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: I already have music for the next project. Oh, I'm
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: creating a lot to not be stressed out and crashing out.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: So I love it, you know. And then uh, tour
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: in March, tour in March thirty. Streaming just whenever you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: feel you have a set schedule, like no, I don't.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: I think I'm about to start streaming right now. After
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: after this, I'm about to start. And just I'm building it,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Is the podcast like every The podcast.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Is Tuesdays at six live. But if I don't do
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: it live, I like pre recorded or something, then you
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: got to stop by. And then yeah, just chilling at home,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: you gotta stop by that the house have you gone to?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: You haven't gone to my crib?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: No, I know, beer house. What's it's like a well,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want see my time. Yeah, we're not far
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: from each other.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. And then I made a rage room, so.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Just come bring some you at a Burbank Low Key restaurant,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and I was like, uh, what Lancers, I'm dead? Why
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: oh we run our way to Vegas. The shittiest little diner.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: But I love it. I just like to sit there
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: and drink coffee. Really diner where they just keep pouring
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: it and it doesn't stop. That's fire. I just love it.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, top me off.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Those fries with the rams were mad good. Like I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: had never been there.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: But it's like there's Lancers Lounge, which is like a
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: part of it. It's like where like old people go
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: to drink and like go and then afterwards they probably
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: go home and beat their wives. But it's just like
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: it just reminds me of my childhood's three a trailer
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: parking in there. It's like dark, like green, like velvet
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: like just like you know, I haven't gotten ship faced
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: in there yet, but i'd like to. I'm dead. I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: want to.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I want to live an old white man life for once.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: You should invite me, we'll go.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: I don't have it. I'm not capable of. Literally, the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: old white man life that I could ever live is
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: just not my I live with my wife. I'm saying.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: You said you want to go be like no, I'd
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: like to one day you're the old white.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Man faced and walk that like walk out of there
• 1:21:12
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