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- Byron: for the ⁓ greatest rivalry. It could be four games with four different teams. Chad: for South Africa. You reckon, you reckon they've got enough players to host four teams? Byron: Both teams and New Zealand, they can come out and go, I'm not saying 15 changes or 23 changes every game. Chad: I'm not a FaKing moron. Not that much of a moron. Byron: Are you sure? I was going to say, do you know where ReSummit plays? Because apparently it's in the UIC. Chad: It's the same FaKing thing, like, all in Europe. Jesus. Byron: ⁓ it could be the thing like ⁓ against Italy, for example, or like how we when they came over and Portugal came over, we played very different styles of teams. And we also gave a lot of debuts to a lot of younger guys. It could be, ⁓ see ⁓ someone reacts when they play against New Zealand, because that's the that's the gold standard. Chad: Mm. Byron: is how do you play against New Zealand? And with all the youngsters that are currently in that alignment camp, and there's four games to play, one of those games they have to travel far away, you could argue that if you're not caring about the result, but you're caring about the performance and learning from your players and who can do what under what conditions, name a better place to do it than four games against the All Blacks. Chad: So we've got, we've got. Byron: and the old blacks could do the same things. Chad: I was gonna lead into that. So we've got four games before we go into the All Blacks. So we've got the Barbarians, which I reckon, it's not a international, you're not getting capped for that game. So that game we can, yeah. That game, think Russie, and Russie said it to himself a couple press conferences ago that he was gonna, he'll be happy with experimenting and losing with. Byron: Mm-hmm. No, but it's a good experience. Chad: being able to learn from those games. ⁓ So the first game we've got is against the Bob Marons, and then we've got England, Scotland, Wales. We've got Argentina. Then we go to the, um, to the nations. Uh, and then we've got New Zealand for the four games. It's going to be. Byron: Epic. Chad: Absolutely epic New Zealand going into their games have It's wild like it's the for Dave Rennie the the most the best thing to come out of how he's been placed is 100 % because he's got France Italy Ireland and then a whole bunch of South African teams. So he's got stormers sharks bulls spring box lions Byron: Probably fire. Chad: ⁓ spring box again spring box spring box if you don't know what your team wants or how everything's working after that Byron: Yeah, then you don't know. Then you might as get a new coach in for the next World Cup. Chad: then you're not the man. But then yeah, because then it's after that is 20, is October 2026, let us soak up and then that's, yeah. But if you don't, if you can't learn from that and you're right, I think you said it a couple, you'll learn so much in that, both from your coaching staff and from your players in those are tough games. of those. Byron: Yeah, it's trial by fire. And if he's willing to experiment and maybe not get some good results on the way, I think it will benefit New Zealand rugby as a whole as well. Chad: I don't think you can go in not doing that. I don't think you can go in expecting to win. There is, but you also have to have a strategy. can't always win. can't, not the spring box. No, no, but in seriousness, there's no ways you could turn a team around. Byron: There's pressure on him to win. So do you win or do you... Here he goes again. This is why nobody likes us. Chad: that hasn't had a coach for a long time, you're have, I don't reckon the, even the assistant coach, it's not just about, it's not just the one coach. You've got your forwards, you've got your backs, you've got your attack, it's, and it's the one thing that I have noticed from the Rusty Plus, we speak about this all the time on the pod, but the Rusty Plus podcasts, do, it's the team that, Byron: Everything. Chad: The management staff that are working together have such an important role in how a team performs. And I feel like that's going to be the most important part for the All Blacks this year and next year is how that all works because there's so much uncertainty about where they all are. But yeah, if it's who we think it's going to be, it's going to be dangerous, Byron. I'm actually... a little bit worried. Byron: I'm excited.