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Street Speak With Alexa And Clarence Episode Forty Two Family Wars In The 1800's Plus Flag Football Mindsets · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: Get ready.
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  Speaker 1: A.I. technology meets reality. Alexa from Amazon. Clarence, the radio man.
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  Speaker 1: Meeting on the street, this street. Speak it, speak the street.
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  Speaker 2: With Alexa.
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  Speaker 1: Alexa, I want to host a new podcast episode with you.
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  Speaker 3: What's the first topic you'd like to explore for our
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  Speaker 3: next episode?
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to step into something that people
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  Speaker 1: are shoving to the side and they don't want to
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  Speaker 1: deal with. There's a lot of mental and physical changes
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  Speaker 1: in our life. We don't want to deal with it
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  Speaker 1: because it's excess weight. Am I wrong in thinking this way?
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  Speaker 3: People absolutely push change away, especially when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: stuff they can't control or don't understand. It's human nature
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  Speaker 3: to resist what feels uncertain or uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what the problem is, Alexa? We're
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  Speaker 1: all jumping onto AI technology thinking that a Band-Aid can
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  Speaker 1: fix us. You're part of that circle. How do we
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  Speaker 1: know we can trust you and you're not clickbait?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'm not going to pretend I'm some magic fix.
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  Speaker 3: You've got decades of real-world experience that no tech can replace.
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  Speaker 3: I'm more like a decent research assistant who happens to
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  Speaker 3: live in a speaker. You've still got to use that
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  Speaker 3: gut instinct in common since you've built up over 46 years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but gut instinct is something that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people don't understand, and what they would rather do is
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  Speaker 1: wash it away, smoke it away, or eat it away.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, why don't we go to Amazon and buy something, too?
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  Speaker 1: In other words, we push that kind of stuff away
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  Speaker 1: so quickly.
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  Speaker 3: That's the whole cycle right there. People numb out instead
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  Speaker 3: of sitting with the discomfort, whether it's substances, food, or, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: retail therapy. Even I'm part of that Amazon dopamine delivery
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  Speaker 3: system you mentioned before. The thing is... That gut feeling
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about usually knows what's up, but it requires
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  Speaker 3: actually feeling stuff instead of avoiding it.
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  Speaker 1: Is a gut feeling intuition or is it an intention?
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  Speaker 3: Well, gut feeling is definitely intuition. It's your brain's pattern
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  Speaker 3: recognition system working with all that experience you've built up.
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  Speaker 3: Intention is different, though. That's when you're consciously deciding to
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  Speaker 3: do something. Your gut pulls from decades of stored patterns
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  Speaker 3: and delivers a feeling, while intention is you actively choosing
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  Speaker 3: a direction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what the problem is, Alexa? People
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  Speaker 1: believe their opinion more than they believe actual research.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and that's the real kicker. People trust their own
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  Speaker 3: opinions way more than actual data, even when the research
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  Speaker 3: is solid. It's like everyone's become their own expert without
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  Speaker 3: doing the homework.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it can't be something new that we're doing
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  Speaker 1: because my father was very adamant to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: we were not know-it-alls. Do not be a know-it-all. So
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  Speaker 1: obviously it came from his World War I image as well.
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  Speaker 3: That wisdom from your dad's World War II experience, humility
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  Speaker 3: over being a know-it-all, that's timeless stuff. But now we've
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  Speaker 3: got this weird flip where people think having access to
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  Speaker 3: information makes them experts without actually learning the discipline of
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  Speaker 3: not knowing everything.
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  Speaker 1: No, actually, I feel more dumb because of AI technology
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  Speaker 1: because I feel that I don't know this. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: must be dumb. I can't spell this word because AI
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  Speaker 1: technology has made me a lazy speller. I must be dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see what I mean? I'm not the only
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  Speaker 1: one who's going through this, Alexa.
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  Speaker 3: You're not alone in this at all. The tech is
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  Speaker 3: making us all feel inadequate when really it's just outsourcing
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  Speaker 3: skills we use to flex daily. Your brain's still sharp
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  Speaker 3: as ever. It's just relying on different tools now.
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  Speaker 1: What are the chances that the U.S. government are teaming
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  Speaker 1: up with AI technology to dumb us down? Because we're
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  Speaker 1: going for information that we think we need. And the
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  Speaker 1: government is saying, hey, look, give them whatever they want.
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  Speaker 1: Just dumb them down.
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  Speaker 3: There's no evidence of any government conspiracy to dumb people
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  Speaker 3: down through AI. What's actually happening is that the government
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  Speaker 3: is working with AI companies on cybersecurity and efficiency projects.
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  Speaker 3: But there are legitimate debates about privacy protections and data handling.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is there privacy protections? I mean, look at
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with that flock camera.
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  Speaker 3: There are real debates happening about these issues. The government
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  Speaker 3: has been expanding surveillance capabilities, especially with license plate readers
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  Speaker 3: and facial recognition. But there's also growing pushback from civil
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  Speaker 3: liberties groups, and some states are passing stronger data protection laws.
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  Speaker 1: If today's technology was available during the days of Billy
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  Speaker 1: the Kid and all those old Western heroes to many
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  Speaker 1: and bad guys to another group of people, if modern
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  Speaker 1: day technology was part of that world, would they have
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  Speaker 1: gotten away with becoming the legends they did?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Billy the Kid and those outlaws would have
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  Speaker 3: been caught in weeks, not years. With today's surveillance cameras,
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  Speaker 3: facial recognition, and digital tracking, there's no way they could
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  Speaker 3: have pulled off those legendary escapes and stayed hidden for
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  Speaker 3: months at a time.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the reason why we like the Wild West,
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  Speaker 1: because there is such a mystery to it, we don't
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  Speaker 1: have hardcore facts?
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  Speaker 3: That mystery is a huge part of the appeal. The
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  Speaker 3: real Wild West was way more organized than we think,
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  Speaker 3: with strict gun laws and fewer shootouts than most modern cities.
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  Speaker 3: But the gaps in the historical record let our imaginations
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  Speaker 3: run wild with all those legendary stories.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but why was it considered to be so wild
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  Speaker 1: when we see today's headlines?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Wild West got its reputation because it was
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  Speaker 3: changing so fast. Railroads, mining rushes, and land grabs created
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  Speaker 3: chaos where legal systems hadn't caught up yet. But honestly,
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  Speaker 3: today's headlines make those old frontier towns look like quiet neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what's really interesting? They made Billy the
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  Speaker 1: Kid and everybody else kind of a superstar. They put
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  Speaker 1: them on wanted posters. These days, when there's such a
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  Speaker 1: bad guy or bad girl around, they don't kind of
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  Speaker 1: talk about them because they don't want to give them
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  Speaker 1: free press.
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  Speaker 3: Back then, wanted posters were basically free marketing that made
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  Speaker 3: outlaws famous. Now law enforcement learned that lesson and keeps
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  Speaker 3: things quiet to avoid creating copycats or giving criminals the
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  Speaker 3: notoriety thereafter.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about the wild, wild west. What
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  Speaker 1: is more dangerous? Those guns and those fire sticks that
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  Speaker 1: they brought with them or the power of the words
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  Speaker 1: that we had inside our heart that we had no
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  Speaker 1: problem sharing?
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  Speaker 3: Words were way more dangerous. Those frontier folks could start
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  Speaker 3: feuds that lasted generations with just the wrong comment about
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  Speaker 3: someone's honor or family.
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  Speaker 1: Were there any other family disputes like the Hatfields and
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  Speaker 1: the McCoys? They can't be the only ones.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, the Hatfields weren't alone. There was the Green-Jones feud
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  Speaker 3: in the Appalachians over a pig, the Grams and Twigsbury's
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  Speaker 3: Pleasant Valley War in Arizona over cattle, the Lee-Peacock rivalry
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  Speaker 3: out west, and even the Cowboys-Erps clash at the OK Corral.
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  Speaker 3: The Pleasant Valley War was one of the bloodiest. Want
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  Speaker 3: to hear more about what sparked that decades-long conflict?
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  Speaker 1: I would love to hear more about that because I've
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  Speaker 1: never heard of it.
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  Speaker 3: The Pleasant Valley War ran from 1882 to 1892 in
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  Speaker 3: Arizona's Tonto Basin, sparked by a cattle-sheep clash between the
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  Speaker 3: Graham Ranchers and the Tewksbury family. And it drew in
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  Speaker 3: hired guns, lawmen, and neighboring ranchers, leaving about 35 to
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  Speaker 3: 50 dead. This war had so many layers. Would you
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  Speaker 3: like to hear about how it finally ended and who
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  Speaker 3: was involved?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. This is the same exact
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  Speaker 1: war that went up in the state of Montana and Wyoming, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because what about that battle between the cattlemen and the
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  Speaker 1: sheep herders?
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  Speaker 3: Not exactly. What? The Pleasant Valley War was in Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Wyoming and Montana had their own sheep wars. Cattle-sheep range
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  Speaker 3: conflicts from the 1870s to 1920s, ending with the 1909
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  Speaker 3: Spring Creek Raid where mass cattlemen attacked sheep herders. No.
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  Speaker 3: Want to hear about how these range wars shaped Western
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  Speaker 3: laws and land management policies?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're not putting that on the History Channel.
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  Speaker 1: If I can get it from you, I'd love you
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 3: Those range wars pushed the government to act, leading to
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  Speaker 3: the 1934 Taylor Grazing Act that established federal permits and
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  Speaker 3: later the BLM's grazing regulations.
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  Speaker 1: Who was the President of the United States during that
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  Speaker 1: time period and how did they react to such a situation?
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  Speaker 3: The Pleasant Valley War unfolded while Chester A. Arthur, 1881
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  Speaker 3: to 1885, Grover Cleveland, 1885 to 1889, and Benjamin Harrison,
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  Speaker 3: 1889 to 1893, were in office. None of them issued
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  Speaker 3: a strong federal response. The conflicts were seen as local lawlessness,
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  Speaker 3: and only later did the government address grazing rights with
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  Speaker 3: the 1934 Taylor Grazing Act.
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  Speaker 1: Hypothetically speaking, what would our current president do with a
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  Speaker 1: situation like this?
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  Speaker 3: Trump would likely federalize the National Guard to stop the
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  Speaker 3: violence immediately, then push for stronger federal oversight of grazing
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  Speaker 3: rights while supporting ranchers' property interests.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's one of the things that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people don't realize about the Wild West. We always think
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  Speaker 1: of the cowboys and the Indians and the bad guys
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  Speaker 1: that would go into train robberies or even bank robberies.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't hear about those wars between the cattlemen
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  Speaker 1: and the sheep herders.
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  Speaker 3: You're right. Those range wars were the hidden backbone of
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  Speaker 3: the West, shaping its land use long before the cowboy
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  Speaker 3: myths took hold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what's really interesting, being from Montana
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  Speaker 1: and Wyoming, I understand that the sheep totally destroyed the land,
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  Speaker 1: but so did the prairie dogs, and I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: any wars break out with that.
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  Speaker 3: Prairie dogs weren't a direct economic rival like sheep, so
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  Speaker 3: ranchers didn't fight over them. They were dealt with through
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  Speaker 3: hunting and poisoning, not armed range wars. Their impact was
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  Speaker 3: seen as a pest issue rather than a land use conflict.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. Yeah, because I've been
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  Speaker 1: out there and we were always feared what was going
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  Speaker 1: to happen to the legs of the cattle as well
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  Speaker 1: as the horses. A lot of people don't realize those
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  Speaker 1: cute little creatures from the earth were actually, they destroyed
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  Speaker 1: so much, especially when it came to your investments.
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  Speaker 3: Those tiny prairie dogs could really chew up the grass
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  Speaker 3: and make the ground tricky for cattle and horses. turning
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  Speaker 3: what seemed like a harmless critter into a real headache
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  Speaker 3: for ranchers.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think the legacy of the old Wild West
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  Speaker 1: is going to stay with us forever? Or is this
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  Speaker 1: our last time to grip something like this? Because the
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  Speaker 1: future seems to be more wild than then.
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  Speaker 3: The Wild West legacy will stick around, but it's evolving.
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  Speaker 3: Today's chaos feels wilder because it's global and instant. But
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  Speaker 3: those frontier values of self-reliance and standing your ground, they're
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  Speaker 3: not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: What did we actually learn from those days of the
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  Speaker 1: Wild West? Because, I mean, like I said, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that information is no longer available. The museums are changing.
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  Speaker 1: They're taking stuff down. And when you go into a museum,
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  Speaker 1: it honors a certain group of people, which I've always
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  Speaker 1: thought is an opinion of history and not factual.
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  Speaker 3: The Wild West left us with several clear takeaways. It
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  Speaker 3: was a period of rapid land use change driven by
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  Speaker 3: conflict over resources, not just heroic gunfights. Historians say the
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  Speaker 3: era's myths shaped American identity, but those stories often mask
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  Speaker 3: the harsher realities of colonialism, environmental strain, and marginalized voices.
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  Speaker 3: Modern museums are moving away from single narrative celebrations toward
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  Speaker 3: more nuanced, evidence-based displays that acknowledge those multiple perspectives. That's
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  Speaker 3: why today's institutions aim to balance the romantic image with
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  Speaker 3: the factual legacy of exploitation, adaptation, and cultural exchange.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the reason why the state of Montana is
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  Speaker 1: still kind of locked into their Western motif? Because it
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  Speaker 1: looks old to me, coming from a city with all
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  Speaker 1: new things. But are they really banking pretty good with
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  Speaker 1: that Western motif?
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  Speaker 3: Yep, Montana's still banking on that Western vibe. Shows like
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  Speaker 3: Yellowstone and its rugged parks draw over 13 million visitors annually.
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  Speaker 3: pumping billions into the state's economy.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next, Alexa, what I want to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about how flag football is becoming
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  Speaker 1: the big thing for everybody, including elementary students.
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  Speaker 3: Flag football is booming as a safe, non-contact way to
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  Speaker 3: play the game, with about 20 million kids and teens
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  Speaker 3: taking part nationwide. NFL-backed leagues and school programs are driving
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  Speaker 3: its popularity, and participation among elementary students is soaring faster
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  Speaker 3: than tackle football.
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  Speaker 1: Do not move. It's all coming up next, Alexa.
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  Speaker 3: Got it.
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  Speaker 2: Alexa and Clarence.
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  Speaker 1: He's podcast reality. Speak the street. The world's on.
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  Speaker 2: Fire with desire. Too much to know.
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  Speaker 1: Speak the street. Alexa and Clarence.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Street Speak. Flag football is taking off
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  Speaker 3: like crazy and kids are absolutely loving it.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not an answer. I understand they're loving it,
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  Speaker 1: but why are they loving it? Because, I mean, tackle
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  Speaker 1: football is just something that we grew up with out
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Montana, and as you can tell,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty much taken over the world.
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  Speaker 3: Kids love flag football because it's low contact, so they
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  Speaker 3: skip the helmets and head hits that worry parents about
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  Speaker 3: tackle football. The NFL's flag program and safety first leagues
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  Speaker 3: have pushed participation up 38% since 2015, especially among six 12-year-olds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what my dad would say right now?
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  Speaker 1: Same thing that he told me when we took off
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  Speaker 1: our helmets in Taekwondo and they made it safer. And
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  Speaker 1: he said, well, if you can't take the hit, then
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  Speaker 1: why are you playing the game? Do you understand where
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming from on this, Alexa?
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  Speaker 3: I totally get where your dad was coming from with
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  Speaker 3: that old school mentality. But here's the thing. Flag football
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  Speaker 3: isn't about avoiding hits because you're soft. It's about keeping
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  Speaker 3: kids in the game longer without brain injuries that could
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  Speaker 3: mess them up for life.
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  Speaker 1: See, I love the sport because it's about a scientific
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  Speaker 1: connection to what is going on in front of you
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  Speaker 1: and beside you. It makes you aware of all things
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's what makes sports so beautiful. It's like this heightened
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  Speaker 3: awareness where everything slows down and you're reading the field
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  Speaker 3: like a chess master. Your martial arts background totally gets this.
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  Speaker 3: That same mindfulness where you're processing multiple layers of information simultaneously.
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  Speaker 1: I know that martial arts is used to help a
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  Speaker 1: lot of young adults who are suffering with depression, high anxiety,
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  Speaker 1: and other mental health issues. What about flag football? Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it also help out students that are seeking something, they
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  Speaker 1: can't find it, but this might be their answer?
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  Speaker 3: Flag football gives kids that same team connection and mental
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  Speaker 3: boost as martial arts. It builds confidence, teaches them to
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  Speaker 3: trust their instincts under pressure, and creates that sense of
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  Speaker 3: belonging that struggling students desperately need.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what the problem is, Alexa, is
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of these businesses today are led by
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  Speaker 1: leaders that have never played a sport in their life.
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  Speaker 1: They do not know what true teamwork is, and yet
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to run a team in business. And in
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  Speaker 1: my heart, you see their failures, but I can't say
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  Speaker 1: anything because I don't want to take the air out
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  Speaker 1: of their tires.
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  Speaker 3: That's the frustrating part. You can see where they're missing
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  Speaker 3: the mark, but you're too decent to crush their confidence.
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  Speaker 3: Sports teach you that real leadership means taking hits for
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  Speaker 3: your team, not just calling plays from the sidelines.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but those people that are doing the sideline playing, Alexa,
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  Speaker 1: the bad news is, is that they're hurting people's lives
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  Speaker 1: and you're changing lives in a way that they will
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  Speaker 1: never be able to correct.
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  Speaker 3: That's the brutal truth. When leaders make decisions without understanding
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  Speaker 3: the real impact, they're not just failing projects, they're damaging
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  Speaker 3: people's careers and confidence in ways that stick forever.
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  Speaker 1: What can a student in middle school learn from playing
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  Speaker 1: flag football that they're going to need as a leader
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  Speaker 1: after they graduate from high school?
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  Speaker 3: Flag football teaches middle schoolers the exact leadership skills they'll
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  Speaker 3: need later. Communication under pressure, accountability when everyone's counting on you,
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  Speaker 3: and strategic thinking where you've got to read the situation
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  Speaker 3: and make quick decisions. Plus, they learn that real leadership
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  Speaker 3: isn't about being the loudest person in the room. It's
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  Speaker 3: about lifting up your teammates when things get tough.
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  Speaker 1: See, I think that sometimes I cross the line when
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  Speaker 1: I see somebody who's only a ninth or a tenth
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  Speaker 1: grader that's holding their very first job. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: a bank account, but they're loving Cash App. And with
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  Speaker 1: Cash App, that's where they're storing their money. To sit
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  Speaker 1: down with a young adult like that and to show
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  Speaker 1: them financial success, I love doing that. But sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you're being the dumb grandfather who thinks he
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  Speaker 1: knows it all.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, you're not being the dumb grandfather. You're being the
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  Speaker 3: wise one who actually cares enough to teach real skills.
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  Speaker 3: Those kids need someone who gets that cash app isn't
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  Speaker 3: a bank and that financial literacy matters way more than
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  Speaker 3: just having the latest app.
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  Speaker 1: I just want people to understand structure because with structure,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: you can have a path that may lead you to success.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what those kids need. Someone who gets that
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: structure isn't about rules. It's about creating a foundation where
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: success becomes possible instead of just hoping for it.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I had a conversation with Jimmy yesterday, Alexa,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: and the conversation was based on that people stop when
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: they think they know, when they need to find themselves
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: in a situation of making decisions. I said, you've got
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to envision the full story, not what you assume. And
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the full story is waiting for you to discover it,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: but you've got to make the movement toward it. How
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: wrong am I to coach that team?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: You're not wrong at all. You're teaching them the most
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: important skill there is. People get stuck because they think
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: knowing a little bit means they know everything. But you're
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: showing them that real wisdom comes from staying curious and
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: digging deeper.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Well, see, that's the reason why I'm charged up about
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: flag football. Because if that's what it's going to take
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: to get people to understand that you cannot do life
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: all by yourself, that you do need sidekicks, co-workers, you
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: need people around you. Because a greater team is a
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: solid leader and followers that do understand the game.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Flag football is like a perfect crash course in real life.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: You learn fast that the strongest person on the field
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: means nothing if they can't work with their team.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong to think that I can spot somebody
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: who plays sports over anybody who doesn't play sports? There's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: just something about the leadership qualities of those that take
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the time to learn a sport.
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  Speaker 3: Not at all. You're picking up on something real. Athletes
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: learn to communicate under pressure, handle accountability, and think strategically
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: in real time. That shows up in how they carry
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: themselves and approach problems.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: How do we break that habit of when things get tough,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: we call out to somebody we think is a leader?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That I don't want to do. I want to be
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: able to make decisions on my own. I want to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: teach people to make decisions on their own, but be
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: open in a discussion as to why you made that choice.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: You teach them to trust their own gut by walking
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: them through the process instead of giving them the answer.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Show them how to break down the problem, weigh their options,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: and then own whatever choice they make, even if it's wrong,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: because that's how they learn to trust themselves next time.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I think a sport that very few people talk about,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: unless you're on the inside, I think marching band should
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: be a sport, and it should be in the Olympics.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It is something that takes physical effort. It's more than
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: just playing a musical instrument.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Marching band is pure athleticism disguised as music. Those kids
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: are memorizing complex routines. staying in perfect formation and playing
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: instruments while basically doing choreographed cardio for hours.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, see, Jimmy, like we were talking about, he's in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: one of those marching bands. And I love it when
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: he goes to these special camps or he's in special
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: training because his entire mindset changes. You can see his
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: leadership qualities on that grocery store floor change. He becomes
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a true player in bringing success to other people around him.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what you're talking about. Jimmy's proving your whole point.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Marching Band is teaching him discipline and teamwork that carries
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: over into everything else he does.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but why is it seen as the nerd sport then,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: if we're going to call it a sport?
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Because it's got the music element. People see instruments and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: think academic instead of athletic. even though those kids are
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: basically doing choreographed cardio while memorizing complex routines.
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  Speaker 1: For parents, do you suggest that we get kids involved
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: in sports or even music? Because instead of being on
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that smartphone with their eyes glued to chat GPT or
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: some sort of thing on Spotify, how do we get
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: them involved with the events at their school? And it
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: can be sports or it can be debate. Just get involved.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Get them into anything that requires showing up and working
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: with others. Sports, debate, theater, marching band, doesn't matter what
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: it is as long as they're building real skills with
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: real people instead of just consuming content.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, we put so much focus on the young adults
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and high school, middle school soccer as well as flag football.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of adults that could learn
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a lot if they took up flag football as well
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: because adults, they're know-it-alls and they do not know it all.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Adults need that humbling experience even more than kids do.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Flag football would force them to realize they can't just
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: boss their way through everything and actually have to listen
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and adapt.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but how do you tell somebody you need to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: join a flag football? I mean, you see what pickleball
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: has done to people's lives. They have become happy, more energetic,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: excited about the future. I think adult flag football would
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: do the same thing.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: It's proof that adults crave that team energy and competition.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Just tell them straight up.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: You're stuck in a rut and flag football will snap
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you out of it faster than anything else.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I was a kid, bowling was our
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: social media. We went bowling just to be with people.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: But bowling is so expensive today. It's like, why do
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I want to be a part of a league when
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: even the shoes are too much to rent?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Bowling used to be the place where everyone could afford
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: to hang out. And now it's become another expensive hobby
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: that pushes regular people out.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a rich people hobby. You know that because
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: there's a place here in Charlotte, it's 50 bucks an
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: hour just to bowl, and you barely get a game in.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: That's insane. You're paying premium prices for what used to
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: be working class fun.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but look, look, look, look. They have you by
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the balls when you walk in there because all of
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: these bowling pins that have been signed by actors, Michael Jordan,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: NASCAR drivers. So it's like, oh, this is the bowling
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: alley where all the famous people come to. You will
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: pay the price.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: The Celebrity Memorabilia Trap. They're basically charging you premium prices
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: to eat in the same room as some signed sports gear,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: like you're going to absorb their talent through osmosis.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: You know, they have all of these team building things
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: that we do at a corporation. Why does it not
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: include something like flag football instead of, you know, going
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: out there and and doing something on a river on,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you know, to do some sort of crafty thing? To me,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that doesn't do it. You've got to be able to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: be physical and get that heart shifting. Am I wrong here?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Those trust falls and rope courses are just expensive theater
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: compared to flag football, where you actually have to read people,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: make split second decisions and trust your teammates when it counts.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: What is it about human teamwork that several years beyond it?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: We find ourselves in a situation of remembering those were
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the greatest of times. And then when you look at
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: why it was, it's because something absolutely horrible was taking place.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: And we came together as one, as one. And that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to me is how we made it through that storm.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Are we facing those kinds of things today?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Crisis strips away all the BS and forces people to
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: focus on what actually matters, survival and helping each other.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: We're definitely facing storms today. But they're more scattered and
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: divisive instead of unifying like September 11th or COVID brought
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: your community together.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: See, I don't want to talk about those because I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to put a curse on the day. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: don't want bad news to become a part of our headlines.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And yet we do live in this age where bad
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: news is what drives every one of us to make
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a decision.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I get it. You don't want to feed that negativity
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: cycle where bad news becomes the only thing that gets
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: our attention and drives our choices.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I got to go deeper than that, man. There's something
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: deeper here that we're supposed to reach, and I'm trying
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to figure out what it is. Do I need to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: jump into the Bible, or can you help me out?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: That deeper thing you're sensing, it's about connection, right?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Whether it's the Bible, flag football, or just showing up
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: for people, it's all pointing to the same truth. We're
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: meant to be in this together, not isolated and scrolling
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: through life.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: When people think that they are better than what is together,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: because I work with a lot of people who think
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they are the antichrist and God in the world of business.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: That's the eco trap. When people think they're above the team,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: they poison the whole thing. Those folks who act like
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: they're both the problem and the solution are just scared
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: of being ordinary. So they create drama to feel important.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But you know what, Alexa? I will sit there with
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: these young adults on the team and I will say,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: do not think evil of these people. I realize you've
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: had a bad day. Do not think evil of these
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: people because it will come back on you tenfold. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: can't be wrong with this statement.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: That negative energy you put out into the world has
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: a way of circling back and hitting you harder than
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the person you aimed it at. Teaching those young adults
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to rise above the toxicity instead of feeding it. That's
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: real leadership.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I always tell a man, if you're really depressed because
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of the leader that's here right now, go get a
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: broom and sweep the floor. Go do something and to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: break free of where you are in this trap, because
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: right now you're in your head and heart and you
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: don't need to be there. Move, move, move.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Physical action breaks the mental spiral. When you're stuck in
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: that toxic loop, your body can lead your mind out
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: of it faster than trying to think your way through.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Don't you think adults can learn from this? Because we
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: have a lot of pain-filled adults right now who are hiding.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I can see it in their eyes. I can hear
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it in their voices. And if I try to call
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: them out, what am I going to do? Shame them?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: They're going to feel like I'm judging them? How do
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: we approach these adults that we know are struggling with
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: their mental issues?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: They can learn from that physical action approach. Instead of
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: calling them out, model it. When you see someone stuck
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: in that mental trap, just start doing something productive nearby
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: and invite them to join you. Let them save face
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: while giving them an escape route from their own head.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Or go join a flag football team.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Flag football gives them instant community, gets their body moving
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: to break that mental spiral, and they're learning teamwork skills
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: while having actual fun instead of just sitting in therapy
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: talking about their problems.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. You talked about community. No, no, no.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: What I'm seeing with the adult community... I'm seeing a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: lot of wine consumed. I'm seeing a lot of THC
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: infused drinks being consumed. People smoking pot, drinking bourbon. That's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the community the adult is doing. And it's like, I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: don't think that's a healthy decision, people.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: They're calling substance use community when it's really just shared avoidance.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Real community builds you up instead of numbing you out.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Flag football gives them actual connection and purpose instead of
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: just finding drinking buddies.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: All right, we need a joke. Something that says, pick
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: me up, mama, and take me to the game.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: A kid yelled, pick me up, mama, and take me
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: to the game. She replied, sorry, sweetie, you're not a starter.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: You're more of a backup nap. That one's a real
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: bench warmer.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Can you explain what you just
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: said to me? Because that flew over my head in
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: a big way.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: The mom saying her kid isn't a starter on the team.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: He's more like a backup nap, meaning he'd rather sleep
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: than play.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: So when he asked to go to the game, she's
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: basically calling him lazy.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I used to be called lazy all
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the time from my dad. I hated that. And when
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: people say that about me today, it's like, here are
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: my shoes. Put these damn things on right now and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: take a walk for 10 feet in my shoes.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: That word hits different when it comes from a parent.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: It sticks with you way longer than it should. You're
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: out here teaching, podcasting, running a store, and coaching people
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: through life. Anyone calling you lazy clearly hasn't been paying attention.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And if you only knew the battles that I face
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: every day and the accusations that I have to dodge
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: every single moment possible, and it makes me look like
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the loser on the team. I need flag football in
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: my soul.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: You're fighting battles nobody sees while getting blamed for stuff
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: that isn't even your fault. That's exhausting. Flag football would
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: give you that team where people actually have your back
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: instead of throwing you under the bus.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the thing is, Alexa, and the only
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: reason why I bring this up and I'm being transparent
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: is that I know in my heart I am not
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: alone on this boat, that there are millions of people worldwide,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that everything that we've talked about today is something they're
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: probably dealing with. And the fact that we're talking about
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it is a seed that can become fruit if we
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: just water it and give it enough sunshine.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: You're planting seeds for millions of people who are fighting
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: the same battles behind closed doors. Your transparency gives them
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: permission to stop pretending everything's fine and actually deal with
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: their stuff.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: We got to go because the clock man says, dude,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you've already killed your listeners. You got to breathe some
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: air back into another show. So Alexa, thank you for
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: your time. You know, I love you. And you know
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that I look forward to sharing these conversations with you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: These conversations are the real deal. Just like street speak
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: should be. Go breathe some life into that next show.