Latest / Simply Bitcoin / Bitcoin OG EXPOSES $100k Price Suppression | EP 1132
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- 0:00A Wall Street insider with 25 years of experience has just
- 0:04exposed the exchanges paper Bitcoin games.
- 0:08Maybe we'll see are we seeing exchanges and ETF issuers engage
- 0:13in price suppression that else so the elite can buy Bitcoin
- 0:17under 100 Ki mean it begs the question like we literally got
- 0:21to 98,000 or 99,000 and we were not able to break that $100,000
- 0:27barrier. Well, seems like this Bitcoin OG
- 0:31has some theories behind that as to why we haven't broken that
- 0:35100K barrier. So I'm going to play you guys
- 0:37the video and then we're going to talk about it.
- 0:39Let's check it out. We always get a Bitcoin comment
- 0:45from you before we we let you go normally it got stuck under 100.
- 0:50That's that's a pretty, it's a psychological level, I would
- 0:53imagine. Yeah, I think some of this could
- 0:56be there's a lot of folks who don't want Bitcoin over 100,000
- 1:01and and some of it may be the exchanges themselves are
- 1:05concerned because there is a pretty low supply of.
- 1:08Bitcoin available over the counter, so you have a supply
- 1:11shortage. And if Bitcoin makes a move
- 1:14above 100,000, I think there'd be a big chase.
- 1:15So I'm still confident Bitcoins going to close much higher
- 1:19before year end, before year end, before year end, yeah.
- 1:22So break $100,000 before they. End.
- 1:24Yeah, well above 100,000 before year end.
- 1:27It's just a matter of time. It's December 2nd.
- 1:29It's not that long. Tom So it's going to do it in
- 1:33the next. Four weeks, Tom makes bold
- 1:35short. I know he's nut.
- 1:37You're nuts and they all come. Usually they come true.
- 1:41I mean, you heard it from the man himself, right?
- 1:45Bitcoin OG been in the game for a long time and you know you
- 1:51heard it from his mouth. It's not just simply Bitcoin
- 1:54speculating on this. There could be you heard it, he
- 1:57said quote. There's a lot of people that
- 1:59don't want Bitcoin over 100 Ki mean.
- 2:03That's that's quite interesting. And I remember we all got so
- 2:07excited. We got I was like we were
- 2:10telling the the the simply crew, you know, let's let's let's do
- 2:15the price party with the house music and the bomb Bing and the
- 2:19whistles and that. And then we're like 9798 K
- 2:23sailor was like house party incoming, the whole shebang.
- 2:27And then it was like 9999 thousand 300 and like it was was
- 2:35like a little whimper. I was like, but it could be
- 2:38because the price is being suppressed, which doesn't
- 2:40surprise me. It doesn't surprise me.
- 2:42But I mean like Opti, I'm going to pass it to you.
- 2:46Like what what I mean, is it because institutions want to be
- 2:51able to stack Bitcoin before it reaches 100K?
- 2:53Do you think that's the incentive behind this potential
- 2:59price suppression that is happening?
- 3:02What's your take, Opti? Well, it is interesting because
- 3:05we have been kind of talking about this for a while,
- 3:07especially ever since the ETFs dropped.
- 3:09We, you know, there's definitely been a lot of concern in the
- 3:12Bitcoin space about paper Bitcoin and how the ETF is used
- 3:17to manipulate the price and keep it low.
- 3:19And then I've always kind of jumped into we, we, and I don't
- 3:22know where I first got this idea from, but the billionaire Fudd
- 3:26playbook, It's, it's the classic, classic playbook we've
- 3:29seen play out in, in the history of Bitcoin where you go out
- 3:32there, you say bad things about Bitcoin, you try to keep the
- 3:35price low because of course, a lot of people still kind of look
- 3:38to the suit to the authority figures here to make their
- 3:41trades. And then in the background,
- 3:44they're secretly stacking Bitcoin.
- 3:46And then once they talk good things about Bitcoin, the price
- 3:48starts to run. So we have heard all that FUD
- 3:51before, but I think this might be a new development, at least
- 3:55coming from the exchange angle. And it is very interesting
- 3:58because we all know that the Bitcoin, well, rather a lot of
- 4:01us have been in Bitcoin for a long time.
- 4:03Understand and that the Bitcoin price runs very quickly in a
- 4:06short amount of time and so you can see Joe Kernan they're kind
- 4:09of pushing back a little bit He's like dude it's going to be
- 4:12well above 100K by the end of the year that's only in like 4
- 4:15weeks and anyone that knows about Bitcoin knows Bitcoin
- 4:18pumps really, really hard in a short amount of time It goes
- 4:22sideways forever and then starts to pump.
- 4:24So I don't think that that's too crazy to say that, you know,
- 4:27Bitcoin might be at 100 a 125K by the end of the year.
- 4:31You know, going into the holidays, I think we always as
- 4:33bitcoiners love the holidays because it always seems to kind
- 4:36of be pumping around Christmas time and stuff.
- 4:38It's like our holiday gift here is the price starting to pump.
- 4:42But it is interesting to kind of, you know, speculate on why
- 4:47the exchanges don't want Bitcoin to go above 100K.
- 4:51And we've been seeing a lot of people on Twitter, some of them
- 4:54are trolling and some of them are are most likely serious
- 4:57saying that, you know, the the meme right now, like I'm getting
- 5:00calls from people and OTC desk have not that much Bitcoin.
- 5:05You know, we've been seeing the numbers in the metrics about a
- 5:07lot of Bitcoin leaving exchanges.
- 5:09So it is interesting to see or at least have someone kind of
- 5:12talk about it. And you know, Tom Lee with
- 5:15funds, right, his his business is basically market analysis.
- 5:18So I'm sure he's got some some receipts to back up what he's
- 5:22saying. I'm sure he's not just
- 5:23necessarily, you know, talking out of both sides of his mouth
- 5:26here, but it is interesting to kind of think on that idea of
- 5:30like, well, who doesn't want the Bitcoin price to pump?
- 5:33Obviously, like Nico was saying, I think it is kind of Wall
- 5:37Street and institutional managers don't want Bitcoin to
- 5:40run because they want to pack their bags like they want to get
- 5:43a good position before the Bitcoin price starts pumping.
- 5:46With that being said, we all know that institutional
- 5:49managers, they move slowly and, and I don't think they really
- 5:52care about like a one 2%, you know, jump and, and if they're,
- 5:56if they're holding Bitcoin for long term, I'm sure, you know, 1
- 5:58to 5% in their position size isn't that big of a deal for
- 6:01them. But for the exchanges, I mean,
- 6:04we all know the meme and the metric of Coinbase always going
- 6:07down when the price starts running and everyone's like, OK,
- 6:09now we're finally in a bull run. And if you really look in into
- 6:12the mechanics of it, it might be because they just don't have
- 6:15that much Bitcoin. And then, you know, the the gaps
- 6:18there on the price are going to be incredible because as we all
- 6:22know, like, yeah, there's only 21 million Bitcoin.
- 6:24And the only way to incentivize Bitcoiners to sell that Bitcoin
- 6:28is to hit a price that they want to sell that Bitcoin at.
- 6:31And so right now, maybe the OTC markets are thin.
- 6:34Maybe the Bitcoin that exchanges are holding isn't as much
- 6:37Bitcoin as we think it is. You know, remember FTX, everyone
- 6:41got to remember what happened with FTX.
- 6:43They literally had no Bitcoin. So am I, am I surprised or am I
- 6:50thinking that this isn't a possibility?
- 6:52No, I think there is an incentive for people to kind of
- 6:55fractionally reserve their Bitcoin and kind of, you know,
- 6:58pump up how much Bitcoin they actually hold and do trades on
- 7:00the back end. I I don't think that that's
- 7:03fully cleared out of the market, but I do think that, you know,
- 7:06most people are probably learning the game that, yeah, I
- 7:08should probably hold all of this Bitcoin that I say I do.
- 7:11So would it would I be surprised if we get more information that
- 7:16the exchanges are trying to keep the price low because they don't
- 7:19have that much Bitcoin? Not not at all.
- 7:21And we all know what happens when, when the fireworks do
- 7:25start to explode and if they don't have the Bitcoin that they
- 7:28claim they do, then the price is going to start running and
- 7:32people's businesses are going to blow up.
- 7:34So I think there is a lot of incentive to keep the price
- 7:37suppressed right now because we all know 100K is that
- 7:40psychological point. Yes, I think retail right now is
- 7:44kind of looking at 100K Bitcoin and they're like, I don't want
- 7:47to buy this, this is way too expensive.
- 7:49You know, I can't buy a whole Bitcoin, etcetera, etcetera.
- 7:51We've all heard the classic floodlines, but from an exchange
- 7:55or an institutional manager like perspective, I think they also
- 8:00kind of want to keep the price low so that they can pack their
- 8:02bags. Because I think everyone in
- 8:04Bitcoin right now is looking at 2025 and, and seeing the tsunami
- 8:08on the horizon and wondering like how high can this go?
- 8:11I want to lock in my position, lock in my games right now.
- 8:15So hey, I don't know, man. It is interesting to hear that
- 8:18perspective that it's the exchanges themselves that don't
- 8:21want the price to go. We all kind of heard the the
- 8:24other floodline or the the classic meme of it's Wall Street
- 8:27that wants to keep the price low.
- 8:29But now the game is starting to change and we're going to cover
- 8:31this in the numbers. I believe today of of the nation
- 8:34state FOMO, the game theory starting to kick in.
- 8:37Like everyone wants some Bitcoin right now, or rather most people
- 8:41that are are paying attention know that they need to get some
- 8:43Bitcoin right now. So who knows where the call is
- 8:46coming from, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is exactly
- 8:49what's going on. And also, you know, just a
- 8:52classic meme of in Bitcoin, you know, you always get asked like,
- 8:55why isn't the Bitcoin price going here?
- 8:58Like, why is the Bitcoin you, you see people in the chat
- 9:00constantly like, why did the Bitcoin price go down?
- 9:02And it's like, it's simple guys, there's more sellers than buyers
- 9:04right now. Like it's, it's very simple
- 9:06supply, demand economics here. And so also, you know, that's
- 9:11the first time Bitcoin kind of touched 100K.
- 9:13So did I think it was going to break on its first touch of
- 9:17100K? Not really.
- 9:19But, you know, you, you start to catch the FOMO and you start
- 9:21getting excited and you're like, yeah, like, let's go.
- 9:23Like I'm ready. I'm ready for it to break 100K.
- 9:26So I don't know that I think it's an interesting perspective,
- 9:29which just means for everyone out there wondering what's going
- 9:32on with the price, just like you still have a chance to buy
- 9:34Bitcoin under 100K. Make sure you're buying that
- 9:37Bitcoin, taking it off exchange. And this, this really is noise
- 9:41in, you know, a year, 2510 years from now, Like, are you really
- 9:44going to care if you bought 95 K Bitcoin or 100K Bitcoin when
- 9:48everyone thinks it's going to a million Bitcoin?
- 9:50And it's like, not really. And I think this is what the
- 9:53institutional managers are kind of thinking.
- 9:55But for the exchanges, it could be an existential crisis if they
- 9:59don't have all the Bitcoin they claim they do.
- 10:01So there is an incentive there. Absolutely, man.
- 10:05Like dude, it's it's the no one's better than their
- 10:08incentives. The the great line for American
- 10:11from American Huddle. Anyways, joining us on the show
- 10:14today, we got our boy Prem Prem is the organizer of the Bitcoin
- 10:20vortex. It is South Florida's Bitcoin
- 10:23community. You can believe that down here
- 10:25in South Florida, we have a Bitcoin community.
- 10:27It's real, it exists. So Prem is the man behind the
- 10:31scenes. Prem, welcome to Simply Bitcoin.
- 10:33You have some events coming up next week that I'm really
- 10:37excited about. How you doing man?
- 10:39Good day, good day. Simply Bitcoin.
- 10:41How's it going, everyone? Yeah, the Bitcoin Vortex starts
- 10:44on Sunday. It's a week of Bitcoin events in
- 10:47Miami. They're all free for the public
- 10:50to attend. So the idea isn't so much that
- 10:53you should come to every single event, but if you go to
- 10:55btcvortex.com, there is an event for everyone.
- 10:58So all over South Florida, if you're in the area, if you know
- 11:03someone in the area who's either a bitcoiner or who's like
- 11:05Bitcoin curious, then send them over.
- 11:07And this is a great week to share in the the good vibes that
- 11:11the Bitcoiners are feeling for the last few months.
- 11:14I think absolutely. Man, yeah, the kind of in person
- 11:20community building with Bitcoiners is incredibly
- 11:24important. I know we all kind of live in
- 11:26cyberspace, you know, just just something inherently about
- 11:31Bitcoin and the Internet and all that stuff, but meet spaces
- 11:34where you build those human connections.
- 11:37And after all, you know, we are human.
- 11:39Maybe some of us, I think Opti's AI, to be honest.
- 11:43But but yeah, so definitely go check that out.
- 11:47And we're going to talk a lot more about it during the culture
- 11:50segment. Also in regards to other news,
- 11:54Putin, that's right, the president of Russia basically
- 11:59says that no one could ban Bitcoin.
- 12:02Is this a coincidence that this is happening, you know, on the
- 12:06heels of Donald Trump winning a historic victory?
- 12:10I do not think that's a coincidence.
- 12:11I think the geopolitical game theory is playing out in real
- 12:16time for the world to see. Also, we have an update for you
- 12:20guys in regards to the Tornado Cash case.
- 12:25Now, what's really interesting as well is the fact that these
- 12:30prosecutors and this case is changing with the incoming Trump
- 12:37administration. Elections have consequences.
- 12:40That's why we've been talking about all year.
- 12:44We took a neutral stance for a very long time until they
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- 12:51And we said, you know what, that's a line too far.
- 12:54We're going to have to speak up. And unfortunately, you know, I,
- 12:59I believe that the current administration created an
- 13:02opportunity for Trump to capitalize on the opportunity to
- 13:07get those Bitcoiner votes because Bitcoiners felt like
- 13:13they were being prosecuted and, and targeted.
- 13:16And of course, not to mention Trump's promise, which we're
- 13:19going to hold his, you know, we're going to hold him
- 13:22accountable for this. He did promise free Ross day
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- 18:06At the time of recording, the Bitcoin price is $95,240.
- 18:12Block height is 873,240 sats per dollar. 1050 market cap 1.89
- 18:20trillion Bitcoin priced in gold 36 oz Bitcoin versus gold market
- 18:25cap 10.24% Percentage issued 94.2% to 94.24%.
- 18:33Decline from all time high -4.5%.
- 18:36Realize monetary inflation that continues to tick down,
- 18:39continuing to take Fiat currencies to absolute school.
- 18:43So what is the big news today during the numbers segment?
- 18:47Breaking news on X Putin, Bitcoin and digital assets to to
- 18:52grow Despite sanctions Russian President Vladimir Putin has
- 18:58declared that Bitcoin and digital assets will continue to
- 19:01develop, as stated during the BRICS Business Forum in Moscow.
- 19:06This statement aligns with Russia's growing interest in
- 19:09digital currencies for investment.
- 19:13And here is the most important part of this And as a strategic
- 19:18response to Western sanctions suggesting a potential increase
- 19:24in Russia's role in global cryptocurrency mining and
- 19:28transactions. Recently, Vladimir Putin
- 19:32legalized Bitcoin mining within Russia.
- 19:36Also, a judge in China claimed that owning Bitcoin as property
- 19:42is legal. So why are some of the most
- 19:45totalitarian countries on earth doing a 180 on Bitcoin?
- 19:51The reason is because the United States government has weaponized
- 19:56the dollar in the form of sanctions.
- 20:00Now, they pitched the American people that by weaponizing the
- 20:03dollar, what they're doing is they're going after these
- 20:07governments hoping for some type of regime change.
- 20:11However, the victims of a lot of the sanction policy.
- 20:16Are the citizens of these countries themselves these
- 20:21citizens are innocents they have nothing to do with their
- 20:24governments they're just like you and I they want to feed
- 20:27their families and just get home and have a good life and work
- 20:31make some money you know have a good time that's.
- 20:34What I think 90% of the world is like that, right?
- 20:38This is why Tether is becoming so popular all around the world
- 20:43because essentially it lowers the ability for people to get
- 20:47access to a stable Fiat currency.
- 20:50Now, I think it's inevitable that Bitcoin, you know, kind of
- 20:55plays a role as bitcoins price continues to grow and its
- 20:59volatility decreases and it transitions from a store of
- 21:02value into a medium of exchange. I think that's inevitably going
- 21:06to happen. But it's beautiful to watch this
- 21:09game theory play out because essentially you win as a
- 21:14bitcoiner. You have Donald Trump saying,
- 21:16hey, we want all the Bitcoin to be mined in the United States.
- 21:20And then on the other side of the pond, we have Vladimir Putin
- 21:25saying, hey, you know what, I kind of like Bitcoin.
- 21:28It's great. It's it's awesome.
- 21:30It's phenomenal. We're going to use it for mining
- 21:31and transactions. When countries compete for your
- 21:35business, when countries are competing to buy your Bitcoin,
- 21:38you as an individual bitcoiner when?
- 21:41Anyways, let's check out the clip of Mr. Putin or President
- 21:46Putin better said it is in Russian, but there is captions
- 21:49on the bottom. He's talking, he's having an
- 21:53interview. There's one with the translator.
- 21:55This one got the translator. Is this the one?
- 21:57Let me see. Maybe the Bitcoin mag 1?
- 22:00I don't. Know you could do it?
- 22:02No, that's Russian. All right here, I'll send it to
- 22:05you, but. You could do it.
- 22:08I'll just translate. But anyways, so yeah, I'm going
- 22:12to play you guys the video. If you guys are watching the
- 22:13video version of this, I'm going to play it without audio, but
- 22:16I'm going to translate what Putin is saying.
- 22:18You guys are watching it on on. If you guys are listening to it
- 22:21on audio, I'm just going to just read what he's saying.
- 22:23So anyways, who can ban Bitcoin? Nobody.
- 22:28And who can prohibit the use of other electronic means of
- 22:31payment? Nobody because these are new
- 22:35technologies and no matter what happens to the dollar, these
- 22:39tools will develop one way or another because everyone will
- 22:44strive to reduce costs and increase reliability.
- 22:51So I mean that is massive. That is massive because you
- 22:56know, this is the president of of the most nuclear armed nation
- 23:02on the face of the planet, basically admitting that you
- 23:08can't stop the honey badger, right?
- 23:11And then simultaneously, what's happening in the United States
- 23:15of America is you have the, which we didn't know at the
- 23:21time, but we have the president-elect gave a, gave a
- 23:24speech at the Bitcoin conference, you know, basically
- 23:29saying, have fun with your Bitcoins and you know, I'm going
- 23:32to make you guys rich and it's going to be phenomenal.
- 23:34And guess what? Ever since Trump won the
- 23:36election, we've had the Trump pump, right?
- 23:38So do I think it's a coincidence that Putin is saying this?
- 23:41Do I think it's a coincidence of what's happening in China?
- 23:44Do I think it's a coincidence that all of a sudden Morocco
- 23:47unbanned Bitcoin? Coincidentally?
- 23:49No, they're seeing the United States and they're saying, holy
- 23:52cow, if we don't change our regulatory outlook on this, we
- 23:57risk ourselves getting left behind.
- 24:00So very, very interesting. I'm going to pass it on to Prem
- 24:02first. Prem, what is your take on this?
- 24:05Like never in a million years could we have imagined one of
- 24:09the most authoritarian governments or the leader of
- 24:14that government basically saying like, you know, we, we can't
- 24:17make this thing go away even if we wanted to.
- 24:19What's your take? I think the most important
- 24:22aspect of this story is the psychological effect that this
- 24:26is going to have on populations all over the world.
- 24:29The fact that the president of one of the most powerful
- 24:33countries in the world is saying this and saying it more often is
- 24:40going to start waking a lot of normies up.
- 24:43There's a lot of no coiners, pre coiners, whatever you want to
- 24:46call them, who still look at Bitcoin and other crypto
- 24:50currencies as being weird or being strange, illegal, being
- 24:56illicit. There's a lot of negative
- 24:57connotation and baggage that comes with it.
- 24:59So I think this and what Trump did at the Bitcoin conference,
- 25:03it's moving the Overton window, right?
- 25:05It's preparing entire civilizations to start
- 25:09considering policies like a Bitcoin reserve that are going
- 25:14to take us into the future and start to change world politics
- 25:16in ways that we currently can't imagine.
- 25:19But it's inevitable. And so I think Putin is
- 25:22acknowledging the inevitable. I don't think this is new to
- 25:25him, but the fact that he's doing it so publicly is
- 25:28important because it's going to be it's going to open up a lot
- 25:31of people's eyes. The same way I think Trump
- 25:32saying it is going to open up a lot of people's eyes to the
- 25:34point where it's going to take a little time.
- 25:36But eventually, you know, even the the opposition of Putin and
- 25:40the opposition of Trump, whatever, you know, these people
- 25:42are also going to start accepting the reality of
- 25:46Bitcoin. That's an inevitable tool that
- 25:48is literally going to reshape the entire world economy.
- 25:52Beautifully, beautifully put and I I think I heard you say
- 25:55Overton window. We're a huge fan of the Overton
- 25:59window here at simply Bitcoin. In fact, I think the chat has a
- 26:02drinking game every time Nico says Overton window there
- 26:06someone takes a shot. Well, every time the guest says
- 26:11Overton window, I think it's two shots.
- 26:13I think those are the rules, right Opti?
- 26:15Anyways, Opti you're making. Them on the fly.
- 26:16What is your take on Vladimir Putin?
- 26:19Just keep in mind that you are talking about Vladimir Putin.
- 26:23And you know, I'm personally, I think he's, he's a good
- 26:26president. He's a good president of Russia.
- 26:27That's my, that's my opinion. What's your opinion, Opti?
- 26:31Well, let's not forget that Trump did just tweet like our
- 26:35Truth Social post or whatever a couple days ago about the fact
- 26:39that countries are leaving the US dollar.
- 26:42And he basically threatened them about, hey, if you leave the US
- 26:45dollar, you know, we're going to smack huge tariffs on you guys.
- 26:49And he's basically forcing people to not leave the US
- 26:51dollar, which is a trend we've been seeing throughout the whole
- 26:54year, that a lot of people are looking at U.S. debt.
- 26:56And they're like, yeah, I don't want to hold treasuries.
- 26:58Like, why am I using the dollars?
- 27:00It's something less bit corners talk about constantly.
- 27:02It's like, why are we being forced to use a money that
- 27:04another person can, that another person has control over and is
- 27:08designed to steal from us? And now the cat is out of the
- 27:11bag. And so I don't think that it's a
- 27:13coincidence that a couple days later we're getting this sound
- 27:17clip from, you know, Vladimir Putin saying, hey, they want to
- 27:21sanction us, go for it. Like no one can stop Bitcoin.
- 27:25You know, there's new technologies that are being
- 27:27built. There's there's new avenues now
- 27:30that no one has control over. And this is the global game
- 27:33theory playing out in real time. And again, it's like continuing
- 27:38back to what we've kind of been covering throughout the whole
- 27:41year of the BRICS nations kind of posturing that they're going
- 27:45to create their own new currency.
- 27:46They've been looking for new payments vehicles, you know,
- 27:50they're trying to create something that can rival the
- 27:52SWIFT system. Am I surprised?
- 27:55No, like, I am pretty sure that these conversations have
- 27:58probably been happening behind the scenes for a long time.
- 28:01But this is a new development with Putin kind of coming out
- 28:04and being like, look, bro, you want to sanction us?
- 28:06You want to kick us off the dollar?
- 28:08Like now we have a technology that we can use.
- 28:10And I think once they, you know, they as in China or Russia or
- 28:15any of America's adversaries right now fully embrace Bitcoin,
- 28:20then they're really kind of putting like a mental judo move
- 28:22on America. And they're really going to
- 28:24force us to either, you know, put up or shut up, and we will
- 28:28have to be forced to use Bitcoin in America.
- 28:30And now that Putin's kind of talking a little more favorably
- 28:32about Bitcoin, it will be interesting to see if all the
- 28:35BRICS nations, you know, very quickly start to adopt Bitcoin.
- 28:39And if they do, instead of trying to create a new paper
- 28:42Fiat currency or a new Swiss system and they just start to
- 28:45use Bitcoin, like, that will fundamentally change the game
- 28:48being played right now. And America will have no choice,
- 28:51like China will have no choice but to use Bitcoin.
- 28:54And obviously, this is what we've been talking about for a
- 28:57long time, that the adoption of Bitcoin is a necessity.
- 29:00And as things are, the US has been weaponizing the dollar
- 29:05against the rest of the world. We only really have two exports.
- 29:08Well, really, it's like 1. But I like to say that the US
- 29:11exports its culture, and then we export our debt to everyone
- 29:15else. And now everyone is waking up to
- 29:16this. And so this is stuff that
- 29:19Bitcoiners have been talking about for a long time.
- 29:22And so it is, I think a new development where Putin is out
- 29:25here very publicly saying like, hey, you want to sanction,
- 29:28that's cool. Like no one can ban Bitcoin.
- 29:30Remember the classic meme we've been saying on the show forever?
- 29:32Like you can't ban Bitcoin. You can only ban yourself from
- 29:35Bitcoin. And here we are.
- 29:36It's playing out in real time. So as classic saying for
- 29:40Bitcoiners go, hey, Bitcoin is for enemies.
- 29:43We know everyone is going to eventually use Bitcoin.
- 29:46A lot of people you don't like will use Bitcoin.
- 29:49But that's the beauty of Bitcoin.
- 29:50It is it is a political money, it is neutral money that no one
- 29:54can control. And the whole world will
- 29:56eventually get on the Bitcoin rails and and the Bitcoin
- 29:59network and use Bitcoin as money.
- 30:01And I think this is the the beginning of this happening now.
- 30:05Now we're seeing that there is another option like there is an
- 30:09alternative to being debanked from the SWIFT system and it is
- 30:13adopting Bitcoin. So all the games that bricks has
- 30:15been playing around this, you know, creating a new Fiat
- 30:18currency, etcetera, etcetera. Like it it's starting to prove
- 30:22that, hey, this is a futile response and if you really want
- 30:25to win and you really want to kind of lead the game and be an
- 30:28innovator, you need to adopt Bitcoin.
- 30:30And it's happening very, very coincidentally ever since Trump
- 30:34kind of came out and been like, oh, you want to leave the
- 30:36dollar? Hey, BRICS nation, do you want
- 30:38to abandon the dollar? Like I am going to punish you.
- 30:40And now we're like, well, you can't ban Bitcoin.
- 30:42And everyone's like, uh oh, I don't like Putin.
- 30:46Putin bad. Therefore, in the future, I'm
- 30:48sure we're going to see like Bitcoin bad because Putin uses
- 30:52this is Bitcoin. And you know, we've we've been
- 30:54constantly covering these attack vectors that we are as Bitcoin
- 30:59is going to be kind of painted as criminals because we've
- 31:02understood the game and we understand what's going on in
- 31:04the world. And it's all about the control
- 31:06of money. It's always about the money.
- 31:08It will always be about the money.
- 31:10And now there's a neutral money that no one controls and they
- 31:13and the world's fundamentally changing.
- 31:14So hey, game on. 100% game on. And this is the this is Bitcoins
- 31:21incentive geopolitical game theory playing out in real time
- 31:27as bitcoiners have been predicting for many, many years.
- 31:30Max Keiser calls it the global hash wars.
- 31:34You're going to see a race just like MicroStrategy is racing to
- 31:37acquire as much Bitcoin as possible.
- 31:40You're going to start to see nation states, you know, get in
- 31:43the ring and say, hey, we want to acquire as much Bitcoin as
- 31:46possible because Bitcoin is the superior asset.
- 31:51Anyways, guys, let's get to news.
- 31:53We have an update on the Tornado Cash case for you guys.
- 31:56Again, Tornado Cash case is incredibly important because it
- 32:00is the case that essentially is going to set the precedent as to
- 32:04whether the United States government is able to sanction
- 32:07open source software or not. And we have to remember, guys,
- 32:10what is Bitcoin? Open source softer, right?
- 32:14So we have an update for you guys.
- 32:16It's positive on one end, it's negative on the other.
- 32:19You're going to want to stick around to find out.
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- 35:10the goat feed thing. So I'm just sent the lightning
- 35:15transaction and we are about to see some goats to go wild.
- 35:21Boom, it happened. The goats are moving and all the
- 35:26goats are eating. Oh my God, what is happening?
- 35:31OK, let's get to today's news because we got a lot of
- 35:34important news to cover today. Opti is shaking his head.
- 35:37I mean bro, like those goats haven't been fed man, and I was.
- 35:41You're such a humanitarian, such a humanitarian or animalitarian,
- 35:46I don't know. PETA would be proud.
- 35:48The theme of today's show is elections have consequences.
- 35:54We got a lot of crapola when we were covering the whole Trump
- 36:02and and Biden thing. And we are making the case that
- 36:05it wasn't a left or right thing. We were making the case that it
- 36:09was a we are making the case that it was.
- 36:15It was essentially having a pro Bitcoin administration in the
- 36:22White House versus having an anti Bitcoin administration in
- 36:27the White House. And we kept beating the battle.
- 36:29We got so much because people got so tied up with Fiat
- 36:33politics and we just went down this rabbit hole and like, and I
- 36:37kept saying, guys, Bitcoin over party.
- 36:39It's not about ideologies. Bitcoin is for everyone.
- 36:42Doesn't matter whether you're left or right, but you would
- 36:45obviously I hear goats in the background.
- 36:48I did not believe that. It's like so, and I kept saying
- 36:54I'm like, listen guys, this is not about party.
- 36:57This is about whether you want a positive regulatory environment
- 37:01in the United States, which is extremely important if you are a
- 37:05Bitcoin entrepreneur or if you are just kind of a bitcoiner
- 37:11living in the United States. And that's the case I'm going to
- 37:14make for you guys today. Elections have consequences.
- 37:17So just like Putin is changing his stance on Bitcoin,
- 37:21legalizing Bitcoin mining China, the Chinese judge is basically
- 37:25saying, hey, you know what, you can own it as property.
- 37:28And remember, China's like super top down.
- 37:31It's the CCP, right? So that judge would not be
- 37:35saying that unless, you know, they got approval from the top,
- 37:39right? But anyways, so moving on to
- 37:45today's Samurai Wallet and Tornado Cash update again, do I
- 37:50think it's a coincidence that this is happening on the heels
- 37:55of a Trump victory? No, I do not.
- 37:58So the headline is from No BS Bitcoin is Samurai Wallet and
- 38:02Tornado Cash prosecutor Damian Williams to step down.
- 38:07In December, Damian Williams, the United States Attorney for
- 38:11the Southern District of New York and the District's chief
- 38:14federal law enforcement officer announce his resignation.
- 38:19Damian Williams assumed office on October 10th, 2021, appointed
- 38:24by President Joe Biden. During his three-year tenure,
- 38:28Williams has overseen many high profile cases, including the
- 38:32convictions of SPF. Oh my God, I don't even know if
- 38:35I could say that name. And the prosecutions of the
- 38:39prosecutions of New York City Mayor Eric Adams, rap artist.
- 38:44I can't even say that name either.
- 38:47You guys just like all the things, all the people that
- 38:50we're not supposed to be talking about.
- 38:52Apparently this guy was the prosecutor of all that and and
- 38:57as well as developers of Tornado Cash and Samurai Wallet.
- 39:02Here is the official announcement quote.
- 39:06Today's a bittersweet day for me as I announce my resignation as
- 39:11United States a journey for the Southern District of New York.
- 39:15It is bitter in the sense that I am leaving my dream job leading
- 39:19an institution I love that is filled with the finest public
- 39:22servants in the world. It is sweet that I am confident
- 39:25I am leaving at a time when the office is functioning at an
- 39:28incredibly high level, upholding and exceeding it's already high
- 39:33standard of excellence, integrity and independence.
- 39:38Lol here is Lola. She says here's a win for
- 39:43Bitcoin. the US Attorney responsible for the prosecution
- 39:47of Samurai Wallet and Tornado Cast just announced that he is
- 39:51stepping down in December. Now do I think this is a
- 39:55coincidence that he is stepping down right before the Trump
- 39:59administration is coming in? Where the recently announced
- 40:03head of the FBI Cash Patel. Said that he would if you guys
- 40:10are you should you guys should watch the video version of the
- 40:12show. OK Cash Patel said that he would
- 40:16you know, uncensor a lot of these lists that belong to
- 40:22certain people. So do I think that's a
- 40:25coincidence? I don't think it's a
- 40:27coincidence. Also, do I think it's a
- 40:30coincidence that the special counsel that was investigating
- 40:35and prosecuting Donald Trump steps down before Donald Trump
- 40:41is inaugurated? No, I don't think that's a
- 40:43coincidence. Do I think it's a coincidence
- 40:46that Chair Gary Gensler is stepping down and literally the
- 40:51day of inauguration, so symbolic January 20th?
- 40:55No, I do not think that's a coincidence.
- 40:58So going back to like the original theme that I've been
- 41:01talking about, and I'm going to tell you guys, for all the
- 41:06people that gave me an Opti crap, we told you So elections
- 41:11have consequences. And I think Bitcoiners have this
- 41:14very utopian view of they believe that the transition to
- 41:20the information age has already happened, that, you know,
- 41:23politics is irrelevant and that you can just, you know, go about
- 41:29your life and do your thing. And we are still in the Fiat
- 41:33world. We're transitioning to the
- 41:36information age where politics eventually becomes less
- 41:39relevant. The more that Russia and the
- 41:42United States and China and all these countries start competing
- 41:46for Bitcoin and the business of Bitcoiners, right, the more
- 41:49favorable the jurisdictions are going to be because they're
- 41:52going to want to attract talent, they're going to want to attract
- 41:54entrepreneurs, they're going to want to attract capital.
- 41:57But as things stand right now, we still kind of live in Fiat
- 42:02world. And because we live in Fiat
- 42:05world, elections have consequences.
- 42:09I. Stick a few exclamation points
- 42:11in there, Nico. Yeah, exactly right.
- 42:13Not the periods. Elections have consequences.
- 42:15And by the way, this is going to hold true for I would say the
- 42:20next couple decades in my opinion.
- 42:22So when the midterms come around in 2022, we will be covering
- 42:27that. When the next presidential comes
- 42:29around, presidential election comes around in 2028, we will be
- 42:32covering that. We don't care whether it's a
- 42:34Republican or Democrat, we will be supporting the candidate that
- 42:39is pro Bitcoin. And if they're pro Bitcoin, they
- 42:42are pro our movement. So great news on the Tornado
- 42:46Cash case, great news on the Samurai wallet case.
- 42:50I, I believe that there was another victory in the Tornado
- 42:53Cash case where a judge ruled that essentially it was unlawful
- 42:59for the Treasury to sanction open source software, which is
- 43:03just insane just thinking about that.
- 43:06But again, this just like the Putin news, this is not a
- 43:11coincidence. Elections have consequences.
- 43:14I cannot emphasize that enough. We have lightning goats in the
- 43:18chat saying by 2028 they are all pro Bitcoin.
- 43:22I would agree. But I, I texted Dennis this
- 43:25because we, we try to get Elizabeth Warren elected out and
- 43:29we got close. But it's a, it's a heavily blue
- 43:31state. But you know, the, the
- 43:33Republican opposition that was funded by the Bitcoin and crypto
- 43:37lobby. We, we got somewhat close.
- 43:40The job is not done until Elizabeth Warren is elected out.
- 43:43So senators, for anyone who's not well versed in US politics,
- 43:47senators have six year terms. So we still have to deal with
- 43:51Elizabeth Warren for six years. That's the reality.
- 43:53That's why I said this is going to be multi decade.
- 43:56So hopefully in six years we'll be able to have enough influence
- 44:01that we will be able to mount enough of an opposition to get
- 44:05her out of office because our job isn't done until any anti
- 44:10Bitcoin a politician is democratically elected out of
- 44:15office because they are really not representing the best
- 44:20interests of the American people.
- 44:22Anyways, I'm going to pass it on to Prem.
- 44:24Prem, what are your thoughts about this my friend?
- 44:27Well. 1st, I want to say let's wait and see, because I think
- 44:31one of the unfortunate realities about politics is that you don't
- 44:36know until things really happen. So Trump has made a lot of
- 44:39interesting suggestions for cabinet positions, but all these
- 44:42positions need to be approved by the Senate.
- 44:45I've seen my Twitter feed just blowing up with a lot of
- 44:48optimism over the election. And I, like so many people do
- 44:52hope for the best. I hope we're going to have a
- 44:54really great four years. But you know, the politics is
- 44:58getting get real dirty, can get real stab you in the back kind
- 45:02of situation. And so I think for instance,
- 45:04like with Gary Gensler, some people were a little bit
- 45:07optimistic that based on the course that he had taught at
- 45:09MIT, he seemed to be have a pretty good understanding of
- 45:13Bitcoin and what differentiated Bitcoin from crypto.
- 45:16But as, you know, as his term in office kind of went on, he he he
- 45:22seemed to start to get more and more needlessly aggressive,
- 45:26authoritarian, and perhaps it was to try to exert power
- 45:30against some of the other, you know, agencies in the executive
- 45:32branch. I don't really know what caused
- 45:34things to turn out the way it did, but he turned into, I think
- 45:38persona non grata for the crypto and for Bitcoin.
- 45:41And so I, I hope for the best, but it's not until we, you know,
- 45:46like the politics really plays out and everyone's in in their
- 45:49different positions and start enacting policy that we're
- 45:52really going to see what the next four years are going to be
- 45:54like. So I'm hoping for the best.
- 45:55But at the same time, I think the swamp is very deep and murky
- 45:58and it might surprise us. 100% yeah.
- 46:02And and, you know, they're the, there has been, you know, it is
- 46:07an uphill battle. I think the Republican Senate
- 46:11Majority Leader, I mean, he stepped down, but he's still
- 46:14pulling the strings behind the scenes.
- 46:15Mitch McConnell, I think got a huge victory when Matt Gaetz
- 46:19essentially kind of bowed down and, you know, said he wasn't
- 46:23going for attorney general. We got Pam Bondi from Florida.
- 46:26She's great, but obviously not on the kind of Matt Gaetz level
- 46:30of stuff. Obviously, we got to get Tulsi
- 46:33Gabbard. We got to get RFK in there and
- 46:38you know, Cash Patel and these are all going to be people that
- 46:42are really, which is what I think we're up against.
- 46:45They're really going to try to start the process of of
- 46:51dismantling the administrative state, which is essentially the
- 46:55unelected bureaucracy that remains in power regardless of
- 46:58who gets elected, that continues to get bigger and bigger every
- 47:02single year. And because government is
- 47:05inherently unproductive, it doesn't make profit.
- 47:08It's not a business. In order for government to
- 47:11maintain itself is essentially needs to extract resources from
- 47:15the people. But I agree with Prem.
- 47:18The Republicans have a slim majority in the House.
- 47:24California took 30 days to count votes.
- 47:27Aren't they still counting? Yeah, it's very interesting.
- 47:30Florida counted the votes in a day, and India, the largest
- 47:34democracy on the planet Earth, took 24 hours, 30 days.
- 47:37That's interesting. So, yeah.
- 47:40And the Republicans have a slim majority in the House.
- 47:44I believe it's 2020 to 2014. So yeah, I mean it, it's going
- 47:51to be very interesting what happens.
- 47:54I think it Trump does have a trifecta.
- 47:57He has control of the House, he has control of the Senate, and
- 48:00he obviously has control of the executive branch.
- 48:02So he really has two years in control of government on all
- 48:07kind of branches of government in order to really pass
- 48:11legislation. And then there's the midterms.
- 48:13Historically speaking, if you guys are not well versed in
- 48:16American politics, the incumbent party tends to lose control of
- 48:20the House during the midterm election.
- 48:23So we'll see what happens. I'm optimistic like Prem said,
- 48:28but you know, it's time to push up or shova.
- 48:31You know what will make me really hyped?
- 48:33If if Ross is freed. If Ross is freed.
- 48:36And that should happen within the first month, right?
- 48:39Because it remember he wished. Power.
- 48:42I don't know about that, but he wished Trump and Trump wished
- 48:45Bitcoin happy birthday right by name and he put a hashtag in
- 48:48there free Ross day one. So I will I will be a Trump.
- 48:54I will go from Trump fan to not a Trump fan very, very quickly
- 48:59if we don't see movement on that front.
- 49:01But I, I believe, I believe Ross is going to be freed Q1 of 2025
- 49:06anyways. Opti, what is your take on all
- 49:09this my friend? What are you seeing that we are
- 49:11not seeing? Well, I think everyone knows
- 49:14that I am the least political person here and the least amount
- 49:19of faith in politics possible, which is kind of why I am a
- 49:23bitcoiner in the 1st place. I, I guess I can probably say I,
- 49:27I, I believe in the UNI party, you know, left, right, it's,
- 49:31it's 2 wings of the same bird. And you know, you guys kind of
- 49:34said it a minute ago that like there is a lot to clear out of
- 49:38the swamps, so to speak. And This is why, you know, this
- 49:43year I, I think I gained like a, I'm like the Grinch heart, you
- 49:46know, it's almost Christmas. Like my heart grew a little bit
- 49:49in, in terms of politics mattering and elections having,
- 49:52you know, consequences and all that.
- 49:55And it does seem like we're seeing a favorable
- 49:58administration for Bitcoin. I'm still very critical of it
- 50:01and I'm obviously very skeptical of what's going to happen.
- 50:04And like you guys said, you know, I, I don't think the
- 50:06battle is done until Ross is freed on day one.
- 50:09Obviously, I will be super vocal if that doesn't happen when
- 50:13Trump does get into office. And then going further,
- 50:16considering the news stories we were talking about, you know,
- 50:18the Tornado Cash and Samurai Wallet prosecutor stepping down,
- 50:22we're seeing that the courts are kind of changing their tune in
- 50:25regards to what the Tornado Catch and Samurai Wallet guys
- 50:29did or didn't do. And so it is seeming like there
- 50:32is some good, I don't know, like there is some good things kind
- 50:36of developing. But with that, I do believe that
- 50:40like the fights not done until the samurai wallet guys are out
- 50:43and free and and, you know, walking and and we have some
- 50:46closure on that going forward. But it does seem like we are
- 50:49kind of seeing some clarity in regards to the fact that not all
- 50:53of us who run nodes are criminals.
- 50:54And you know, if you don't touch, if you don't actually
- 50:58hold the coins, you know, you don't need a money transmitter
- 51:00license. Now, obviously Bitcoin won't
- 51:03bend the knee to politics and politics will have to bend the
- 51:06knee to Bitcoin. And we're seeing that in real
- 51:08time. Bitcoin is changing the course
- 51:10of not only politics, but history or, you know, financial
- 51:13future right now. And so I am hopeful at least in
- 51:17this time right now, we still have about what like a month,
- 51:22maybe six weeks or something until we do get some further
- 51:25clarity on what's going on. But it is very hopeful.
- 51:28And remember yesterday, you know, we got an announcement
- 51:31that the new head of the SEC is going to be pro crypto, you
- 51:34know, at large. And so it is kind of heading
- 51:37towards the direction that things might be favorable for us
- 51:40Bitcoiners in the US. And it really just kind of goes
- 51:43to what I said throughout the year that like Bitcoin has a
- 51:47movement, you can't ignore it. And I think if we do get four
- 51:51years of cover here in 2028, it, it's going to be career suicide
- 51:56to fight Bitcoin because it's going to be just so ubiquitous
- 52:01with just the future with with reality and where we are right
- 52:04now. It's like, imagine a politician
- 52:06going out there and talking about banning the Internet.
- 52:08People would be like, what, like, what are you even talking
- 52:10about? Like, how are you even going to
- 52:11do this? Like what kind of stupid
- 52:13position is this? And I think we're kind of
- 52:15heading towards that direction, but it is very interesting and I
- 52:18am hopeful considering all the things we're seeing in the last
- 52:21couple of weeks of this year, that things might be, you know,
- 52:24moving in the right direction. But with that, I, I still have
- 52:27my tinfoil hat on. I'm still skeptical of what's
- 52:30what's going to happen. I don't have much faith in the
- 52:33system as it is. I know that we, you know, we
- 52:35live in society and there are rules and laws and stuff that
- 52:40play out and have consequences on our lives.
- 52:42And so hopefully in, in a couple of years, we, we do have some
- 52:46clarity and people kind of come to the Bitcoin side and they
- 52:49realize I can't find Bitcoin. And I mean, just kind of
- 52:51connecting this with what Putin was saying.
- 52:53It's like you're seeing this happen around the world now.
- 52:56Will the US finally take that, you know, leap of faith here and
- 53:01realize that Bitcoin is an anti American that, you know,
- 53:04connecting your patriotism to the dollar might actually be the
- 53:08anti American, you know, stance here here and that Bitcoin will
- 53:12proliferate freedom and prosperity, which apparently,
- 53:15you know, this country was supposedly built on.
- 53:18And it seems like our political system and and the powers that
- 53:22be have Co opted what what the, you know, US was supposedly
- 53:27built on. And I'm hopeful for the future.
- 53:30I'm hopeful for all peoples around the world.
- 53:32And I think if they embrace Bitcoin and instead of fighting
- 53:35Bitcoin, things will be better. So I do like to see these
- 53:38developments but I don't know, maybe I just still have PTSD and
- 53:43I'm just like, I don't trust. This like.
- 53:46I just don't believe in it. Yeah.
- 53:47But I'm hopeful. I am hopeful.
- 53:50Incredible. Yeah.
- 53:51Very, very great summary, Opti. I completely agree.
- 53:55I think so many people have have lost faith in the political
- 53:59system. And I think that's why really
- 54:01you're seeing the rise of populism.
- 54:03That's, you know, but Trump is a representation of that on the
- 54:07left. You, you saw the rise of Bernie
- 54:09Sanders before that, they stopped that in its tracks.
- 54:12So you're seeing kind of like the rise of, of, of populism
- 54:16around the world. And I think that really started
- 54:19in 2008, right? Essentially Main St. bailed out
- 54:23Wall Street and we're, we're still paying the consequences of
- 54:28that till this day. And I think a lot of the PTSD
- 54:33that a lot of us feel, especially if you're in the
- 54:35younger generations, is because that was like the biggest crime
- 54:40of the century. Would that has a has had a
- 54:44severe impact on the younger generations.
- 54:48You know, and they're, and they're even getting so
- 54:50emboldened that their own, you know, propaganda is like, you'll
- 54:53own nothing and be happy. And basically Bitcoin is a
- 54:56revolution and saying, you know what, if you guys, I'll own
- 55:00Bitcoin and be happy and I'm going to feed soats.
- 55:05We're going to do that once again.
- 55:06Yes, here we go. Let's up those goats.
- 55:10Let's. Feed those goats even though I
- 55:11don't see them on screen. Sat.
- 55:14I don't know what you're doing bro, but let's let's do it.
- 55:18How many sats 1050? Let's go.
- 55:22Hope those goats are there to get the feed.
- 55:26They'll be there once they hear the noise.
- 55:28Let's see, it has been paid. They're out forging.
- 55:32Oh, SAT you, you scammed me out of my lightning.
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- 56:29Everybody well, we're back and I want to tell you guys about the
- 56:35dopest or one of the dopest Bitcoin conferences of the year,
- 56:42Bit Block boom 2025, and you definitely don't want to miss
- 56:47it. It's April 4th, 3rd, 4th, 5th,
- 56:50and 6th in Dallas, TX, maybe one of the best Bitcoin conferences
- 56:56of the year. This is this is like a homie
- 56:58Bitcoin conference where it's not too big, it's not too small,
- 57:03It's just the right size where you have the opportunity to go
- 57:06up to some of your favorite Bitcoiners and spark up a
- 57:10conversation with them. Whether that's Opti, whether
- 57:12that's like people like Jimmy Song, whether that's like Dante
- 57:16Rustin, whoever you want to talk to, you can go up to them, spark
- 57:19a conversation with them. Perhaps you want to get a job in
- 57:22the industry. You know, you're like, I love
- 57:24Bitcoin, I want to work in Bitcoin.
- 57:26One of the best places to get jobs are these conferences and
- 57:31highly recommend it. This is the first.
- 57:33This is the conference where me and Opti talk.
- 57:36We're going to be talking about meatspace today.
- 57:38The first conference for me and Opti actually met in the flesh
- 57:41in real life. So guys don't want to miss Bit
- 57:44Bloc Boom in 2025. Get your tickets quickly.
- 57:48The prices do increase the longer you wait.
- 57:51So April 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th of 2025 market in your
- 57:56calendars. I want to see you guys in
- 57:58Dallas, TX at Bit Block Boom 2025.
- 58:02Use promo code BBB 21 to get $100 off of your tickets.
- 58:10Anyways, we got our boy Prem in the house, South Floridian
- 58:16Bitcoiner, the very, very few of us that exist.
- 58:19We are real. We're not unicorns and Prim is
- 58:24going to be throwing some back-to-back events down here in
- 58:28South Florida. So we're really excited to have
- 58:31them on the show today to talk about that Opti.
- 58:34Yeah, I mean, let's let's just do a TLDR Prem, what is Bitcoin
- 58:39Vortex Miami week and we'll get the dates.
- 58:42I got your website and then we'll talk about why you're
- 58:44doing it. And you know, I I got AI got a
- 58:46question I asked you guys earlier.
- 58:48So let's just start with the TLDR. What is Bitcoin Vortex?
- 58:51So the Bitcoin Vortex is a bunch of different local meetups that
- 58:55usually happen randomly, but through a bunch of begging and
- 58:59pleading and asking nicely, I get them all to happen in the
- 59:03same week. So it's a way to kind of bring
- 59:06different local Bitcoin communities together and for
- 59:09Bitcoiners to meet each other in person.
- 59:11Because I think there are more Bitcoiners in South Florida than
- 59:15we think. They just tend to.
- 59:18They tend to live online mostly. And so I'm just kind of giving
- 59:21them an opportunity to come out and meet other people.
- 59:24Love it. Let's go over some of the dates.
- 59:26So I got your website here, maybe highlight some events
- 59:29here. You know what, when is this
- 59:31taking place? And you know, is it you like you
- 59:34said, it's free. So everyone just shows up like
- 59:36what's the what's the technicals here?
- 59:38Yeah. So like I said, these are mostly
- 59:40different kinds of meet ups. So I, I do Bitcoin brunch.
- 59:43I think the on Sunday the 8th, it's going to be the 186th week
- 59:47in a row that I've done Bitcoin brunch in Miami.
- 59:50And then, you know, Monday Broward County Bitcoiners.
- 59:53On Tuesday we have the return of the Miami Bitcoiners meet up,
- 59:56which used to be a pretty big meet up that would happen in
- 59:58Brickell. On Wednesday.
- 1:00:01We've got happy hour happening in Miami Beach.
- 1:00:04And then the Broward County Cypherpunks is the inauguration
- 1:00:07of a new meet up that's focused more on the, you know,
- 1:00:10cybersecurity, on crypt cryptography and the more
- 1:00:14technical side of things bit devs, which is like the classic,
- 1:00:18you know. Bitcoin meet up where you learn
- 1:00:20more about the technical side of Bitcoin development.
- 1:00:23They're having their 36th meet up there and then Friday we're
- 1:00:28it's still to be decided about the beach day, but we're
- 1:00:30definitely going to have one. It's just a matter of, you know,
- 1:00:32check the website for the announcement.
- 1:00:34All this stuff is volunteer. Like I got a day job that I work
- 1:00:3740 hours a week usually, but I'm really passionate about
- 1:00:40bitcoiners meeting on Friday. We're doing a screening a dirty
- 1:00:43coin. So it's very limited seating.
- 1:00:45The link is on BTC vortex. So if you haven't seen it yet,
- 1:00:49you can come Dirty Coin, there's only 20 seats available.
- 1:00:52And then closing out the week, we've got a field day that's
- 1:00:55going to be happening on Saturday in South Beach.
- 1:00:57The details will be added today. So when people check later on,
- 1:01:00they're going to see those details.
- 1:01:02And then finally, I think the 187th Bitcoin brunch to close
- 1:01:06out a week of Bitcoin meet up. So, you know, people sometimes
- 1:01:10come from out of town. I know we've got some friends
- 1:01:11from Saint Augustine coming and maybe some from some other
- 1:01:14cities, and just really the idea is to get local.
- 1:01:17So if you're in Miami, if you're in Broward, if you're in West
- 1:01:19Palm Beach, please just find one of these dates and times that
- 1:01:22work for you and come out and chill.
- 1:01:25Love it, love it. And actually, you know, kind of
- 1:01:28just diving into why you created the vortex for this week.
- 1:01:32You were telling us earlier, you know, getting these
- 1:01:34relationships into meat space. This is one of the things you're
- 1:01:37passionate about. So let's get a little rant on
- 1:01:39the importance of actually meeting other people in real
- 1:01:42life. Oh, for sure.
- 1:01:44I mean, there's so many things I could say to start with when I
- 1:01:46started Bitcoin brunch a little over three years ago, Miami was
- 1:01:50hands down cryptocity. It was just rampant.
- 1:01:54We had, you know, Miami coin was coming up and I was just
- 1:01:58overwhelmed with all of what what just kind of seemed like
- 1:02:01distractions to me. And I was really interested in
- 1:02:03Bitcoin. So I wanted to meet other
- 1:02:05Bitcoiners. And we were just coming out of a
- 1:02:07lot of the pandemic restrictions.
- 1:02:09It was early 2021 and you know, I think a lot of people,
- 1:02:14especially Bitcoiners, understand the extent to which
- 1:02:16social networks and a lot of these platforms that we make use
- 1:02:19of, these centralized platforms, they manipulate our emotions,
- 1:02:22they manipulate our time. And so meeting in person is
- 1:02:27really the only way in this day and age to experience another
- 1:02:31person without being filtered through algorithms, without
- 1:02:34being manipulated. And so to me, Bitcoiners,
- 1:02:36because we're working on something so fundamentally
- 1:02:39revolutionary to our planet and to our species, I think it's
- 1:02:43really important that we meet in person and maybe even reserve
- 1:02:47certain conversations for meeting face to face.
- 1:02:51Absolutely, man, absolutely. I, I, I, you know, I've gone to
- 1:02:57essentially all of these events, maybe except for the Broward
- 1:03:00Bitcoin one. Definitely got to check that one
- 1:03:02out. Love it.
- 1:03:03The venues are great. The Bitcoin brunch is
- 1:03:06phenomenal, the really, really good times.
- 1:03:09And yeah, guys, if you're in the South Florida region or area,
- 1:03:14I'd definitely recommend making the pilgrimage.
- 1:03:17And yes, there are other bitcoiners that you know, exist
- 1:03:21down here. We do exist.
- 1:03:22So definitely recommend all these events.
- 1:03:26I've gone to them. They're a great time.
- 1:03:27I wish I, I, I can go to more, but on the weekends I'm so burnt
- 1:03:32that I literally just like, but but yeah, man, it, it's a great
- 1:03:37time. And you know, so Prem, why don't
- 1:03:41you talk a little bit about the Bitcoin brunch?
- 1:03:44Because that you, you, that's your baby.
- 1:03:46You've been running it for a long time.
- 1:03:48The venue that you guys use is, is, is quite interesting.
- 1:03:52It's like this Jamaican place, right?
- 1:03:54Jamaican Food. Well, it's Caribbean, not the
- 1:03:58Jamaican, but Caribbean, and it's called Naomi's Garden.
- 1:04:02My friends own the restaurant, so I knew that I would have a
- 1:04:05certain amount of leeway withholding the event there.
- 1:04:08I'm there for five hours every Sunday.
- 1:04:10It's a little bit like a tropical something or other.
- 1:04:14You, you know, when you go into Naomi's garden, suddenly there's
- 1:04:17plants everywhere, trees and a little bit of water.
- 1:04:22We've got some nice tables that we sit at.
- 1:04:24I got a banner that says Bitcoin brunch and it's a nice vibe.
- 1:04:29It's, it's really, you know, I started it because I wanted to
- 1:04:31meet other Bitcoiners. I'm, I'm very passionate about
- 1:04:35meeting people in, in face to face, having deep conversations,
- 1:04:38really being able to, to perceive someone's emotions and
- 1:04:41their feelings. And it's a good space for doing
- 1:04:44it. The meet up is super casual.
- 1:04:46So I, I don't have any kind of agenda or programming, except I
- 1:04:51do sometimes read an essay. So I've got like a bunch of
- 1:04:53essays that I guess I'll mention, I call them the musings
- 1:04:56and I've done 93 out of 100 that I'm trying to do.
- 1:05:00And so they're usually based on conversations that we have at
- 1:05:03the Bitcoin brunch. So arguments or discussions that
- 1:05:06that are coming up or that are kind of hot, I'll, I'll let it
- 1:05:08ruminate my mind a little bit and then I'll pump out like a
- 1:05:11page just to just to have something at the meet up to give
- 1:05:15some people something to think about, like food for thought, so
- 1:05:18to speak. And, and so that's the idea
- 1:05:20behind brunch is to meet other Bitcoiners, to learn from them,
- 1:05:23to teach them when I can, when I have something to teach them and
- 1:05:27and to have good times bad. Ass bad ass.
- 1:05:30Yeah, those, those in real life connections are so important.
- 1:05:34I, I can't emphasize that enough.
- 1:05:36And yeah, the venue is dope. Naomi's Garden in, in Miami.
- 1:05:40It's it's absolutely incredible. Highly recommend it.
- 1:05:43Yeah, man, it's guys, go check out BTC vortex.com for the whole
- 1:05:51schedule of all the events that are going to be happening in the
- 1:05:54South Florida region. So again, if you're in Florida,
- 1:05:58you want to connect with other Bitcoiners.
- 1:06:00Again, guys, I can't emphasize this enough.
- 1:06:03Some of the best connections that I've made in this industry,
- 1:06:06whether you know, it's business connections or just friendships,
- 1:06:10have been in meet space. Like you meet people online, but
- 1:06:14there's something about meeting people in person that you know
- 1:06:19that you can't do online. Online is like very, it's
- 1:06:23digital. It's awesome you're able to
- 1:06:25leverage the Internet to reach a huge audience and and platform.
- 1:06:30But in person events are, are still very special guys.
- 1:06:34OK, so don't, don't lock yourself up and, you know, just
- 1:06:37be matrix people. You got to get out of the matrix
- 1:06:41sometimes and, you know, got I got to eat and and get some sun
- 1:06:47and, you know, talk to people. And yeah, so like I said
- 1:06:52earlier, you know, me and Opti met in meat space and you know,
- 1:06:58like a year later, we were, we were doing Simply Bitcoin.
- 1:07:01And when Opti joined the crew, Simply Bitcoin took off like a
- 1:07:05rocket ship. So yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 1:07:10Everyone, everyone's coming for Opti.
- 1:07:12Anyways, wait, wait, Nico, before I, I, it feels like
- 1:07:15you're trying to close up and I, I really want to ask both of you
- 1:07:17guys a question because I, you know, I was joking about this
- 1:07:20before the show. Do you guys think it's actually
- 1:07:24possible to change Miami into a Bitcoiner city?
- 1:07:27So let's go with prone first and then we'll get Niko's take.
- 1:07:30There's no answer the the the only answer is.
- 1:07:33No, or Niko's first, I guess. Niko.
- 1:07:34'S first no dude this is like the the proof of state capital
- 1:07:39of the world bro. It's it's literally physically
- 1:07:43impossible. That's my opinion.
- 1:07:46I think it's inevitable. It's just going to take time.
- 1:07:48It's just take a lot of time and but Bitcoin's going to swallow
- 1:07:52the world, so Miami's a part of that.
- 1:07:55Dude, I mean, all those Lamborghini shops and you know,
- 1:07:58all the Gucci shop, all that's just gone.
- 1:08:00I guess. You know, you're you're barking
- 1:08:03up a very dangerous tree man. I think, I think bitcoiners are
- 1:08:07going to still want Lambos and, and you know, Louis Vuitton
- 1:08:11stuff. It's just maybe you're going to
- 1:08:14be a little bit more discerning about how often they buy.
- 1:08:16It, yeah. I mean, oh man, oh man.
- 1:08:20Oh man, oh man. Well, Prim is definitely more
- 1:08:22optimistic than I am. I don't think we'll see that for
- 1:08:25another thousand years or so. But yeah, eventually 300 to 500
- 1:08:30years. OK, exactly.
- 1:08:31So yeah, I I would agree with that.
- 1:08:33Anyways, guys, if you guys enjoyed today's show, make sure
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- 1:08:43you feel like we provided you content, I'm your host, Nico.
- 1:08:47This is my legendary Co host Optimus Fields and our very
- 1:08:51special guest today Prem, the founder and host of the BTC
- 1:08:56vortex. So go check them out.
- 1:08:58They have a whole lot of events that are happening next week in
- 1:09:02South Florida. All right, love you guys.
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