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Indiana-Wisconsin Preview with Grant Shouse & Mike Mike Hutsell (2.86.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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  [SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to a special edition of the IU report with Grant Shows and My Cutsle.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Their preview of IU's football game against Wisconsin at home.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Seen your day in Bloomington.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Only on the Central Indian Sports Report.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll go back to IU fans to a special edition of the IU report here with Branch House and Mike Hutsville here tonight as we preview the Indiana west constant football game on Saturday coming up here tomorrow and Mike this is a game for Indiana that it's just one of those games it's just at this point it's on the schedule when they're going to play it I feel like well it's it's important it could be the last home games for Fernando Windows
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  [SPEAKER_04]: last home game for this more all these you see in your day it's uh so it's a chance to send out uh deangel of ponds, aid and fisher all those guys last chance maybe get a chance to see them in person so from that sample it's a big day this is the group that
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely transformed Indiana football over the past two seasons.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So you want to appreciate those guys and you just want to beat the absolute shit out of Wisconsin.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's be real.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's an opportunity to exercise a lot of demons through the years that that
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  [SPEAKER_04]: team with that ugly W on its helmet has put up and it's just used in the end as a footstool for several years.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Loki wanted this the worst opponent in the end of the set of face over the last couple decades.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We've talked about making things personal.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's make this personal as well.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's important that if you're listening to this and you're going to the game on Saturday, stay for all four quarters.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Give this theme the respected deserves, Mike.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Ironically, I'm watching Old Dominion Play Troy, and I just watched the Old Dominion Quarterback bus for a 26 yard touchdown run.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That's that's a that's short yardage for what he did in the in a no kidding.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a goal line carry get the team the respected deserves as fans.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is Probably for a lot of people wanted the teams that made some people fall in love with Indiana football This year last year with these guys that come over from from JMU I'm looking forward to being there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a new game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be kind of a
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  [SPEAKER_00]: like upper 60s Saturday and November, which is unusual this time of year, it seems like.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So they deserve this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to play the game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's important and they're staring down a chance, Mike, to be the first Indiana team to ever win or to ever be 11 and 0 here for Indiana football.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Talk about something you never thought you would say.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: more than a 30 point favorite and you're facing a team who got a big win last week, but their punter was their leading passer in the game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So I believe there may have been a little bit of a fluke involved.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We'll call him fluke fickle.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Now the coach, I can't believe they're bringing him back.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They're too cheap to fire him and they're spitting it as, oh, just transforming things
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  [SPEAKER_04]: changing the overall atmosphere of the program.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They've gone from smash mouth, oh, line centered.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Offends to the spread and it's just taking a little bit of time to get it all together.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a little bit of BS.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he went away from what the identity of Wisconsin football was, which was that smash mouth.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: have a three a guard two guards on the field that had one or two vows and their collective last names.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It was 43 letters total.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You always had Jonathan Taylor or Monty Ball or go all the way back to Ron Dane type at running back and they just bulldozed people for so many years with Barry Alvarez and then Brett Bealeman
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And he went away from that identity.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They've Paul Chris got fired and ended up leaving before Chris got fired, coming to IU, one of the great hires that Tom Allen ever made.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Believe it or not, but I just keep going back to that game when I was 15 years ago, or Bill, I'm gonna put 83 on Billland.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And then there was a game a couple years after that,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Ohio State was on probation.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And this was the old leaders and legends divisions.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I had a chance to win out and make the big ten championship game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And the first game in that gauntlet was Wisconsin.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And everybody had talked themselves into, it was Kevin Wilson era football.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody had talked themselves into.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It didn't as we go on this run.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to play in the big ten championship game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was like 42 to
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  [SPEAKER_04]: three or something at half time of that game was constantly steam roll them.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So getting an opportunity to play Wisconsin as a 30 point favorite and humiliate them and send off just such a great group of seniors that have, that have just changed the identity of this program.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like you said, let's make Saturday a really special day.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I remember the game two years ago
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  [SPEAKER_00]: where they played Westcotts and at home one the game member and Westcotts and was five and two or something like that like that had an okay record and they came to Bloomington in Indiana one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and they had some momentum and you looked at the rest of the schedule where they had Illinois Michigan State and Purdue.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Holy shit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like Indiana could win three more games here to get the six and six.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They win that game and then of course they they lose out and Tom Allen gets fired and they hired the thick netty dude and the rest has been history.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a constant game with gave them so much momentum in 2023.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was something to kind of cheer about because you didn't expect it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was the first game after Bob Knight died.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There was a little speculation that maybe he had had a curse on the IU football program and he died and they won a game and now they're actually like really good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Going to lost five games since the dude died two years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Three and three were in the same season.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know, that's the thing that that was a real fun.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think my favorite moment with a matchup with Wisconsin was in 2020 when they went to Madison at Camp Randall with Jack Tuddle Mike Jack freaking Tuddle as the quarterback and it it was one of those smash mouth grinded out kind of games like a game you'd expect like with Iowa and they won the game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and there was a top 25 game, I can't remember who was ranked to what, but Indiana won the game, and that ended up being the high moment of the Tom Allen era.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It only went downhill from there after that less content game in 2020.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So Indiana's had less conferences number the last few times they've played.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think and they get a chance with them here on Saturday.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: One of the things with Luke Fickle is that this is the guy that
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I almost think not personality wise, but just the path he's taken and the latter movie took.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It kind of reminds me of Archie Miller in a way and what he did at Dayton and then came to Indiana.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: fickle was great Cincinnati got them into a 14 college football playoff and then took the latter job and came to and came to Wisconsin and left Cincinnati and he never showed left Cincinnati.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He could have built thank God Cincinnati is like idiots because when he left and took the Wisconsin job for people who don't know this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Cincinnati sat down and had a conversation with a guy by the name of Kurt Signetti and the AD at Wisconsin or Cincinnati, I should say, can't remember his name.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Said to Kurt Signetti, you just don't have enough P4 experience to lead our football program and into that hiring Scott Frick and Satterfield.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So shout out the domino effect.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess Luke
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and the folks at Cincinnati being just absolutely dumb, idiot, and higher in Scott Thatterfield over Kurt Signetti, and now the rest of the story.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You can always tell a lot about a fan base when they lose their head coach for those that you don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I live in the Louisville area, working Louisville.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: The morning Scott's out of field got hired by Cincinnati.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It was like they broke into national to celebrate.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It was like, weird out of this guy's contract.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Since then, I had to take in this guy from us.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We can go, and then they go higher Jeff Prom from Purdue, the the prodigal sun returning.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And then to know that they had signetti there, and had a chance to hire him, and they went with with saterfield is it's so hilarious
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny, man.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: An Allen got fired at Indiana at Indiana.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think fans here for IU collectively, at least me because he was a nice guy and you liked what he did with LEO there for a minute.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: For like two years in 2019, 2020, and then the wheels just fell off the train.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I had a chance to visit the University of Wisconsin this summer when I was up there, and drove over to the stadium and stuff, and I was close.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It sits in like the Camp Randall, not this really matters, but it kind of sits in a weird area where it's like driving through Madison and the campus.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like very similar like driving through Purdue, where it's kind of complex and all that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: kind of tight, and that's how it was there, Camp Randall, and they were making renovations, but it's a historic place, it's a historic program.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't forget what guys like Barry Alvarez did for that program, and even guys like Brett Bealamo, what they did for that program.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, this is not something to overlook.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know their record is bad, but this is a program that
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  [SPEAKER_00]: upper middle of the pack maybe like right there with Iowa historically in the big 10.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They were the class of the big 10 West.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think you can easily make that argument.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was supposed to be Nebraska when they brought Nebraska in, but Iowa and Wisconsin kind of took over the West.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Purdue had one year.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Nebraska never won the freaking big 10 West,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: and I'll go back to all these reasons that I don't like Wisconsin football and you mentioned one of the names Barry Alvarez.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: People don't understand Barry Alvarez is not a good dude, why?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going to tell you this because if you go like to 2020, remember in the big 2020 was the year with COVID and all these weird things that we've got it, you know, do just to get a season in place.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So the big 10 comes out and says you have to play X amount of games to play in the big 10 championship fair.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It became painstakingly clear that Michigan was going to bolt on the Ohio State game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So all of a sudden, the Big Ten starts scrambling, because they could not fathom Ohio State not making the Big Ten championship game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Indiana had a chance to be there.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Indiana did lose the Ohio State.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And one of the guys who was spearheading that let's change the rules to get Indiana out of this game was very freakin' over it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He would have been the most red ass son of a bitch.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: If he was still coaching or AD at Wisconsin, and they were trying to change the rules two weeks before the championship to get Wisconsin out of the game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But he is driving the car, no man, we got to get a high, because they were worried about the college football playoff, the 14 playoff, and we got to get Ohio State to play Northwestern.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And then when Indiana was clearly the second best team in the big ten,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Alpharez campaigns to say, no, let's give our second best bull to Northwestern.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They deserve it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: There was this like hierarchy of big 10 teams that it was so much more beneficial to Wisconsin and Iowa and all these schools for any industry to keep sucking.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And it felt like for years, the conference was just going to go out of its way to,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: if it had that chance and that was the year in the end of went and unfortunately they blew the ball game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They took the big ten patch off three uniforms for the ball game that year because of all the shit that Alvarez and all those 80s pulled.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I hope that there's just like they see Barry.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It just put Barry Alvarez as face on the jumbo tron so we could
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's my burial for as we're in for the day you mentioned a lot of stuff there that that was the 2020 that was five years ago, Mike, and that seems like forever ago now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was thinking it does, but it doesn't as from an IU fan's perspective.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It does, but it doesn't and it does, it does because it was five years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But they've had, they had this three seasons here, but they sucked another good again in their relevant.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were kind of relevant in 2020.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's 2020 year was just so weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it seemed like such a year there where like Indiana was historically like what Wisconsin had been for all those years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were consistent that year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were winning games.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were playing kind of the way Wisconsin would kind of that style.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Alvarez there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about all that with Barry Alvarez.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I knew that the rule of gotten changed because Indiana had played itself into a position there to go to the big thin championship.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think in 2020, would have won against Northwestern.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They had beaten Northwestern.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That season, they would have won the big 10 title that year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The 14 playoff and the the shit got changed there at the end and I remember that year where you mentioned now they blew the ball game against Ole Miss, they they blew the game against Ole Miss and it was because they were supposed to go to the festival and they changed it like Oregon got in or something or whoever it was got in that year and they ended up going to like the outback bull.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They ended up going to the outback bull.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody at that point was just done.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want to be there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want to practice.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You have like a month off there for you and clear your bowl game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No one wanted to be around.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It costs him and they didn't recover until 2024.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was going to say the funny.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: The funny thing to me and I go back to 2020 is everybody knew if Michigan got a chance to F Ohio state.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They were going to and they absolutely horrible like it was like I think he predetermined.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're going to have COVID that week.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It was never a question whether Michigan was going to pull out of that game and they obviously did.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But it didn't matter because they changed the rules for Ohio State anyway.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And not to mention there that Purdue pulled out of the old oak and bucket game twice.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were supposed to play Indiana twice and both were canceled because of COVID.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're supposed to play him once and then it was like, okay, you're going to play someone in the opposite division that like matches up where you were and Purdue like happen to be there or something.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then they canceled it again because they got COVID and maybe they did, but it was kind of just a point because they were supposed someone's supposed to get the bucket that year and it would have been into you.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And the funny thing is is Tom Allen used that as part of his reason for canceling a series that Indiana head scheduled against Jeff Braun and Louisville and Louisville fans are like, oh, you guys are so afraid to play us.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, no, I think Tom Allen was just trying to put the screws to Jeff Braun for what happened in 2020.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I and I didn't really think there was something to that theory.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Happy to report from the control room that Barry Alvarez is alive and well at Madison Wisconsin at the age of 78.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Go, go, Barry, prediction.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: One thing before we get to the predicting the list got, can we talk one basketball point, Greg, and this is especially for you.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Indiana, obviously, the big win last night over Milwaukee, F.U.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Miles Turner.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Good name and get a rebound against the losers.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Give us our freaking championship that you call us those.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Anywhat, Grant, prediction, 30 and a half point favorite, what do you think?
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: thinking Indiana tries to go out and lay the hammer down on senior day with this senior class going into the by week, which will which will be nice.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be a much needed by week towards the end of Indiana's battle with a few injuries.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They played in so many tough games here lately, Penn State, Oregon at the very beginning of this stretch.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: that this is going to be a much needed by week coming up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take Indiana to win the game, 48 to three might.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: 48, three.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to go a little more optimistic than you.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go 56 to 7.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see if Wisconsin has implemented something called the Forward Pass into their playbook this week.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Give me 42 to 13 right on the line.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it will be over by the middle of the third quarter.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Love it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: First time of the level.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: No, right?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Does Luke Fickle look like Adam Sandler or more like John to Toro from Mr.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Deeds?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: From Mr. What?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Mr.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Deeds, the Adam Sandler movie.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, two young.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's all catch that movie anytime on like that's older than he is It doesn't matter that movie is just randomly on television more than any movie in the world
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  [SPEAKER_01]: in a sports report is a product of ITG media.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Another of these.