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How Mold Toxicity Impacts Your Health and What to Do with Dr. John Kim · Non-Toxic Living

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  Yeah, mold took me out all you need is 50% humidity a little drywall the perfect mold food and your whole family sick
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  And you don't know why and you get on medications and the medical treadmill happens that is brought on from the mold impact
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  And this is where the whole toxic bucket discussion comes to play. Mm-hmm. Like it is crazy how mold takes out a life
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  And also another problem is like some of the families are fine your husband's fine your kids are fine
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  But then you as a mom complete sick with mold issues. Now that's a good discussion to have the reason being is
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  Why is that is probably because what's your?
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  Three top tools to get people feeling better
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  If they've been exposed to mold and they can't afford all the things
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  Yeah, the windows making sure the entirety houses well ventilated the more air flow that's actually in the house the better it is for you
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  The other thing that I would also recommend doing is
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  John so glad to have you here in the show today. You're a mold survivor
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  I'm a mold survivor and that's gonna be a big part of what we talk about today
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  So let's let's jump right in your moldy. I'm a moldy. How can we help the people watching today?
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  Not suffer so much from probably one of the top two
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  Toxins that are ruining lives and families a lot right is the issue is that we have a such a misunderstanding of how mold can impact our body
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  I think that's just a simple mildew some simple water damage that we actually incurred in our house
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  But bigger than that these mold end up having to spray some to call microtoxins
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  Which are basically biological warfare to yourselves and there are several
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  But these things end up having to impact not only your immune system
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  But also causes some to call neural inflammation
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  So what that actually encourage that you end up having to have symptoms dealing with depression brain fog
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  Right when you're also having kids having to deal with ADD symptoms. Yeah, anxiety is a big one in kids disease
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  Right, it can also affect fertility and women
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  Including guys into having low sperm count
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  So it's not just a simple thing as a mildew issue that you could just bleach it and I will not recommend that we can talk about later
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  But we have to understand that it creates a bigger impact on how the body is responding and can lead into chronic disease
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  Yeah, mold took me out right. I went from a
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  3 out of 10 sick to a 9 out of 10 sick when I moved into my parents
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  Moldy basement after being heavy metal poisoned
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  I was probably more like a 6 out of 10 and I went to a 9 out of 10, but the
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  And it wasn't even a wet basement. It was just a damp basement and all you need is 50%
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  Humidity a little drywall the perfect mold food and your whole family sick and you don't know why and you get on medications and
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  The medical treadmill happens your children can have something like serves. Isn't that true?
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  Chronic and 5-3 response syndrome. Yeah, this is very common can lead into hypersensitivity issues to everything from
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  chemicals to perfumes, right?
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  Let's just get into Uber and actually has a car set in there
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  You're having all these sensitivity issues. That's could be a sign of a mass. I could be also from
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  hypersensitivity. Should you dealing with so is that is brought on from the mold impact and this is where the whole toxic bucket discussion
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  Coming to play. Like if you actually have a cup like we have right now like how much is that being filled with different
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  Talks and you talked about heavy metals us now, but sometimes that mold impact into the way you are staying
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  Could be just throwing you off
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  Where it causes something called a huge immune response by call it the Humpty Dumpty effect, you know
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  So everybody has a Humpty Dumpty story
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  So if a Humpty Dumpty sitting on a wall, it's fine
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  But is that little stress coming through in this?
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  This is where the mold discussion comes in just basically flips that Humpty Dumpty over the wall and your body is completely cracked
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  And this is where people end up having to have trouble
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  Recovering from mold exposure and then I'm even aware of it
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  Yeah, you said something really interesting you said that if a
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  Syntomology if there's so many people that are chemically sensitive today and the reason they're chemically sensitive is they might have a
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  Modie house and if you have a lot of these different
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  Mass cell reactions you really need to look to the source and it may be your home. You don't think you have mold
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  But you have mold and it's hard to find
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  Molding your home. So how do people discover whether they have mold or not in their home?
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  What's like some of the best ways to do it? This is a big topic. I have so many different ways to do it
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  But it was like oh my air test and it's fine
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  No, not so much
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  Yeah, it's really the air testing is probably the worst thing to do and unfortunately a lot of these so-called testing companies comes in
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  To make a clearance of the situation
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  Does it come in and they do an air sample and it's like oh well, there's no other mold as you're going on
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  You're fine, but then your body's still screaming of sensitivity issues having reactions
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  Belowing is a big issue a lot of times inflamed waking up you feel so bogged down tired
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  Back under your eyes, right? So there's an impacted lymphatic system
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  All these things are really the the triggers of mold
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  But you have to
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  Look at all right, so if I'm sick
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  I'm getting to look at in terms of why I'm a sick you have to look at the environment self and this reason why
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  The methodology I teach is called the encore method and one of the focal point that we look at is environment
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  So this is where
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  Getting the right testing company really matters, right?
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  So they're going to come in they're going to really assess in terms of the dust particles because mycotoxins bind to dust
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  Right little rafts exactly
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  And so this is a good way to really look at the mycotoxin level into the surface
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  So common areas in terms of maybe your basement
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  Your attic or cross on the crawlspace where there could be a lot of moisture from the ground coming up
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  HVAC area could be big one, right?
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  So these are really common areas that we have to look at but often times when you're just doing air sample intestine for instance
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  Completely missing the picture
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  So that's why you need to have a right company to come in or assess those areas
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  But also you cannot sometimes see things behind the wall
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  No, so this is where thermal scanning of the moisture spots could be really helpful to see
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  All right, it is is any other issue behind the wall that I'm completely missing is another thing scoping through the HVAC unit
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  Is another important thing to look at the piping and the entire of the system itself because if there is a
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  particular mole toxin especially like black mold for instance
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  Anytime that HVAC is turned on all that spores is getting spewed out again
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  So commonly what people get sick a lot is during winter
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  Why because they're at home a lot more? Yeah, right? They're getting explosive actual toxins
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  And this is where people get sick more often with an upper respiratory infection
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  And when you have a child who's dealing with chronic respiratory issues
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  You have to look at and ask my especially
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  It's not the fact that they're having algae issues you have to look at okay. Is it related to mold problem
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  That's at home that I'm not even looking at
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  So what about
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  Mold docs I've seen some really good experience with mold dogs. What do you think about a mold doc?
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  It's a good tool to do I mean I
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  I'm a dog lover
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  Yeah, and there's a bit of a
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  ethical
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  dilemma for me but they're great tool at least workers
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  To sense and then as well as to detect all these things that are you not even aware of
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  So mold dogs are good
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  Allies in the scenario
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  But probably they're probably better than a dust test they are because they're gonna spot find
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  Where the mold's at down to super low levels where dust test you can say okay
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  We have it in here and then you do multiple dust tests. It's stronger over here
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  So it's likely coming from here. Then you have to do an exploratory hole. You got to do scanning
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  But those dogs man. They're just like
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  Rough rough underneath your sink rough rough behind your daughter's bed
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  And I don't know if they bark or not, but well they they stop and they point at the pointers
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  I mean they're very like I said their experts better than humans
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  But I still have the ethical part I'm just like you're poisoning am I never thought about that you are a sensitive human
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  To think that you're you're literally inflaming that dog's brain
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  It's a neural inflammatory toxin and and the dogs probably more sensitive to it a lot more because they're small
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  Yeah, now you made me sad. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I didn't think about that. It's like I'm gonna get me a mold dog
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  I don't know if I want to do a mold dog
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  I'm just that's the part of this like I'm like as I'm I'm an animal lover
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  I'm a dog lover to begin with and I was just like
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  Man that ethical part of utilizing those dogs and you don't even know how long these dogs are gonna be living anyway
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  But that's that's a whole different discussion, but they are good good, but there might be they are getting
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  It is a little bit of damage to the to the craft. So all right. So let's let's move to children again
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  When it comes to mold I know a lot of the families that are watching non toxic living
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  This podcast they have kids and they care deeply about their kids
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  They keep barely deeply about their animals as well, which can be affected because they're having much smaller
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  Biology correct, so what are some of the top symptoms for kids? What are some of the the
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  You know our kids more sensitive because they're smaller like like dogs. Yeah, I mean let's actually answer that question first
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  Why is it that kids end up having to be much more sensitive to mold toxins?
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  Because of their brain and their immunology including their neuroendocrine systems is developing
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  So they're more hypersensitive to the environment and itself right including noise including non ABMF
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  But specifically mold toxins are much more sensitive to so what are the symptoms that you might end up having to see with kids?
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  It could be leading into bad wedding a lot of times
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  You could actually have unexplainable urinary tract infections, especially in girls, right?
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  That could be common
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  Is and also for kids it can lead into a lot of the neurological issues
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  Bat behavior could be lashing out could be from severe anxiety issues
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  psychosis especially night terror and extracurricular
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  ADD-like symptoms
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  Right and in a more severe part of mold issues and this happened to be the case with one of my client
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  Her child actually developed a autism
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  Right the kid is not vaccine at all and having to develop these autism-like symptoms over time over time
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  Yeah, so accumulation again is the accumulation of toxin and
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  If you look at a baby that's born disease especially an umbilical cord, right?
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  There's about two over 230 chemicals that are embedded in Belical cord
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  So you already have a compromised cellular function in this children
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  But you have to also have to dial back into how the mother's mitochondrial DNA is happening
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  But also the dead so you already have a compromised cellular function that's not optimal to the environment
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  And then when you bring the child to the particular environment where it could be moldy
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  Okay, over
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  Exposure to different toxins and then you have to talk about the vaccine discussion as well
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  All that and then also the mother's microbiome breastfeeding all that c-section all those end up him to impact
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  As a how the child's
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  Body is going to be responding and this is can lead into chronic infections for kids
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  Especially like I said upper respiratory infections you're talking about asthma
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  Alligia issues all that including ADD that could be fitted into there
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  So I have a question my daughter and was getting migraines all the time and she's healthy
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  We eat great, you know, I'm non toxic dad, you know
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  So she's pretty healthy, but so I
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  Notice she had headaches, and I'm like, you know that that's not normal like I'm always causational because I don't
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  She shouldn't have headaches. How old is she? She's 10. Okay, so this happened when she's like eight
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  So she wasn't even starting into like massive hormonal changes
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  And I don't know why I did it, but I decided to well there was a little water leak downstairs
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  I used to have mold in this one corner. I can't wait to show it to you. I'll tell you the whole story
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  It just just after years
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  Of trying to figure it all out. We finally got it all figured out all cleaned up
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  And it's safe that there's a little weight a little more water damage
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  I'm like, uh, where's that coming from? It was like coming from a railing that was leaking through not a big deal
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  It wasn't hitting drywall or anything
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  So I pulled it out and then I'm like the remediators that came here originally and I bought the home
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  There was a whole section that I removed and they said we don't have any they stopped and said there's no more mold
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  I told the I still used a mold remediator
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  I'm like, let's cut over here and he cut it open and I have three it's a bent wall
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  So it has three layers of drywall
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  Wow, and he opened it up and there was a section it was three foot by four feet every layer of drywall
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  Had on the paper right had black mold so black mold black mold three by four foot
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  And we had a remediated and my daughter's migraines
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  The species to exist. Yeah, yeah, which is a common thing. I see with people especially neurological symptoms wise
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  headache you said brain inflammation. Yeah, you're new information especially brain inflammation
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  So migraines a big one. I've seen people dealing with
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  photophobia so they have a lot of sensitivity issues sensitive to EMF
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  You know anytime they're close to a Wi-Fi router for instance. They feel like the body's vibrating
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  The which cannot choke her and oftentimes and then becomes so sensitive
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  Hi-per-sensitive. So this is where I discuss about
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  microglue of priming and then mast cell priming
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  So once you go to this
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  Exposure to different toxins your body is cells undergoing to a cell danger response
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  So it's that whole hypervigilant state that goes in so anytime you get re-exposed to a little bit of mold for instance
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  Overreaction, maybe you're going to a uber like as a good example. I don't know why uber
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  Cars still end up having to have these because they're still frustrating. Oh my god. Yes, that's why yeah
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  So that car sense and you have a massive headache after you're getting out, right?
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  So all these are basically causing your cells with a hyper
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  Vigilant state and
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  Is your mitochondria is your organ now that's supposed to be creating energy
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  But instead when you see a sense of threat
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  Your cells go to this phase where is trying to detect
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  Any particular danger and goes into a fighting mode
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  And this is where often people trying to do some type of detox work and they cannot get to the resolution
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  They're looking for yeah
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  I found that a lot we taught doctors for 18 years and we work with all so we got to see all their patients all their problems
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  We saw a ton of
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  clients ourselves and what I found personally is that
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  And I don't know if you agree with this. So that's why I want to have this conversation is that we we have someone who's really sick
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  Who's living in a moldy home and
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  Someone says how you need to do a liver detox. We need to give you glue to thigh on then I start thinking about that
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  I'm like wait a minute
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  So we're going to go in to someone's body their cells are already full and then we're going to drive
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  Mobilization of toxins with a leaf blower
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  kicking up all this dust when their phase two may be weak
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  When you know, and then that's going to stress out your liver because now you got to go through phase two detoxification
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  conjugation
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  Of these toxins the packaging for removal and then as you know
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  Not all the toxins get urinated out after phase two
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  They're getting dropped into the bile and then reabsorbed through the portal vein
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  And this is the retoxification that people
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  Experience and I found that it's just silly to
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  someone who's in that's super sick to just be
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  Sturring up toxins, you know, and in doing it incorrectly. So
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  You know
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  That's one of my questions for you like how do you gently start somebody?
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  I mean, I have my methods that I use. I like just binders
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  I just like getting the stuff out of them
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  Changing their environment. So I'd love to get your impact on that or your your opinion on that and then too
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  I want to talk about some of the main mass cell triggers
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  Because I think a lot of people today have mass cell. I think they're becoming their hypersensitives and me being one of them
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  Like I still think I have a bit of cell danger response
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  Mass cell and
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  Where I easily trigger headaches doing it's so frustrating and it's just recently. I don't know because I'm aging
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  Maybe my testosterone is a whole plus a huge effect. Yeah, yeah, so
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  Those are two things I want to kind of drill you on here and just get your opinion
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  Yeah, absolutely. So let's start with glutathione and and being selfish just so you know this is for me
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  People are going to be having the same question and this is where such a misinformation about using different antioxidants incorrectly
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  It's a problem because they drive phase one detox that too mobilization
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  But then also when you giving glutathione it actually
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  Triggers the mold in your body that's colonizing to produce more micro toxins
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  Especially gliotoxins a big issue. So I didn't know that so you cannot give glutathione too early
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  You're gonna need glutathione because the main issue with mold is that especially micro toxins
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  It decreases glutathione
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  But adding in a glutathione in the beginning of the phase in terms of doing detox work
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  It's going to trigger mass amount of mass cells one thing
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  But then also is going to produce more micro toxins where people with skeptic often get sicker because of it
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  And then when you talk about methylation issues
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  We talk about people doing HLA genotype problem
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  They have already have a compromised detox to begin with and adding in glutathione because you think that you need it because they have such issue with
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  methylation
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  Wrong time to do it. I see you
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  We agree not all experts agree on this one
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  No, I have a few docs that we talk about this and we're on the same page when it comes to this. I think so many people
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  Are doing detox wrong and it's just making them sick and not feel well then they're not compliant
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  Detox should make you sick. It should not it should actually make you feel better
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  I could be having a little bit of fatigue issues etc
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  But it's not going to be to a point that you're having mass amount of diarrhea problem. We're having to deal with
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  Hux reaction basically right it should be gentle
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  But this another thing that issue comes into play is all right
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  So is is bind to the right resolution to deal with micro toxins my answer is no the here's the reason why
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  When you look at patients with dealing with these type of hypersensitivity issues
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  They're vague on their especially their autonomic nervous system is already fired up
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  dealing with sympathetic nervous system in terms of doing detox work
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  digestion in terms of how your liver is functioning in your cold bladder that's parasympathetic
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  Right, so we really have to understand this out nervous system
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  Placing two factors of detox big time oftentimes
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  Practition don't look at that and they just throw okay mold issue binders
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  And they use some of the powerful binders I call it somers for instance
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  But these patients are already
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  Bound up specifically concentrated. So if you're really concentrated if you have a lack of bowel flow to begin with
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  It's not the right time to throw in binders. So one of the things that I really helped you understand is that
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  Micro toxins are lipophilic meaning it's going to be lodged into their fat cells and organs
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  So instead of it you utilizing binders. I'm not saying that you cannot use it. You should use it
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  The first thing to do is you need to help to stabilize the micro toxins by using minerals
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  And then as well as bio flavonoids excuse me rest very mature
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  Tumeric right ginkgo below butt could be very helpful in that scenario right
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  It's depending on specific types of micro toxins for instance, right
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  So I'll give you a great example like gliotoxin for instance is a particular
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  toxic mold
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  Micro toxin component which can drive down glutathione, but it can also cause
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  sulfur sensitivity issues so people who actually have sensitivity to
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  garlic and onions for instance, right those people already have a compromised sulfation pathway
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  You cannot throw glut uh glutathione in that scenario because it's gonna cause more glutathoxin to be produced
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  But how do we reduce that safely?
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  Utilization of malignant as a mineral yeah, malignant huge for that
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  And then respiratory and Tumeric could be very powerful three agents start to cyber as a micro toxins as well
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  So that could be health to getting out and as you start to increase the bowel flow as you start to get the bile
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  And bowel movement coming to play this is where some of the gentle binders could be very helpful
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  So especially aloe vera you're talking also about active recharge core
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  This is a good agent to actually utilize as well, which I like
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  So those are weights and does it doing step by step and you got to look at you know where that person's journey is
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  Right and looking assess in terms of you know, are they able to go to the bathroom properly right or they how's the nervous system are they
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  Uh
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  dealing with all stress response or they dealing with anxiety issues
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  You know if you have an anxious person to begin with and doing a detoxing correctly
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  It's gonna be much more anxious
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  So you got to look at where that person's journey is and then utilize things in a correct matter
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  Know why you know all this why this because you've been sick yourself
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  I was there's no way you didn't know this stuff because I know everything you're talking about
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  I understand right is because I got sick myself
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  You go through the journey years and years of challenge and then you're sensitive
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  It's like if someone's sick and they're sulfur because you would probably sulfur sensitive
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  And I'm listening to him like this this is because you're you're a moldy
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  We were both moldies and you had to figure all this stuff out to feel better and you know
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  And I found my path you found yours and
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  We were our first guinea pigs, you know
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  You know, Dr. Dan and I we used to travel to shoemakers office several times yeah in learning grow
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  And we didn't like cold-styrene because it was plastic resins
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  We didn't like it because it caused constipation so you know six generations later true carbon cleanse
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  You know came about because
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  It doesn't too much carbon actually bridges in the colon
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  You got to use magnesium oxide you got to use different
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  Different fibers to that not like flax and things that irritate the colon because a lot of these people have inflamed
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  Colons and it constipated you got to have that bowel flow
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  So you know a lot of the things you're talking about you have to overcome them because we had the overcomer from ourselves
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  And then you add
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  You know like hundreds if not thousands of patients that you get to interact with that are so sick their kids are sick
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  They're family sick
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  They're losing their jobs like it is crazy how mold takes out a life. It does it's a family families
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  And also another problem is like the you know some of the families are fine
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  Right, let's just say you go family members. Yeah, your husband's fine your kids are fine
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  But then you as mom
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  Complete sick with mold issues now. That's a good discussion to have the reason being is why is that is probably because
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  Three things number one your mitochondria dysfunction
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  Existing modern hundreds of this function already dealing with right could be from past trauma problem
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  Pass exposure to mold issues before or you probably had some other issues such as like Epstein bar or other
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  Various issues that already reactivated your immune response and the second thing is the fact that you are dealing with
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  The amount of exposure as well for over time. So it's another second thing that could be impact for Nick as women stay at home
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  We're often typically typically is one thing
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  But then also estrogen plays a huge effect into how mold and Bob production
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  So one of the things that I really look at especially for women if they've seen the fact that they're having some type of estrogen
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  Dominacy symptoms
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  This is where doing a comprehensive stool analysis is very powerful to looking at beta-curranadase function
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  It's beta-curranadase within that stool analysis very high
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  Then is that she is basically recirculating that estrogen a lot more readily and then the bowel flows already compromised
• 23:01
  That means she already is basically
• 23:04
  recirculating that bowl toxin or a lot more than the person extra and this is finding you finding this inner stool
• 23:10
  Yes, comprehensive stool analysis. So when I do when I see a client for instance what I look at is typically three things
• 23:16
  One I look at their urine micro toxin testing
• 23:18
  I look at using the real time we're who using for what lab using real-time life real-time life
• 23:22
  New term lives not vibrant
• 23:24
  Vauban does
• 23:25
  More specific looking at the immediate exposure of the mold issues
• 23:30
  So and there are certain markers. There are much more sensitive in detecting like for instance
• 23:34
  Vauban wellness good at detecting micro found other gases
• 23:37
  Right, so I don't know if you know like there's a drug called self-cept the generic name is micro phenolate
• 23:44
  That particular drug is to use to be used in kidney transplant patients
• 23:49
  And that particular drug is derived from micro found other gas in which the mole toxin
• 23:53
  That's how powerful these
• 23:55
  drugs including micro toxins are to suppress your immune system
• 23:59
  And this is what what people often get exposed to and here's the farm D coming out in you. Yes, it is
• 24:04
  Yeah, so you I like this so you know that literally in the drug world
• 24:08
  They're using mold to create micotoxins that suppress an immune system
• 24:14
  For say something like a kidney transplant that's something I've never heard before but it makes so much sense
• 24:18
  We use mold to create all kinds of things, right? We
• 24:21
  You know in our foods and I hate when someone say like citric acid thrown on mold like
• 24:26
  Come on guys, you know that that's let you talk about that. Yeah, I will we'll show that. Let's continue
• 24:32
  We'll talk about the drug as yeah, let's soccer spawn is another drug
• 24:35
  Okay, which is often used for as a eye drop to help reversing dry eyes
• 24:41
  That's another problem because you're now affecting your coastal tissue
• 24:45
  Membrane by utilizing
• 24:47
  Moldoxins to reversing dry eye issues
• 24:50
  So how many different mold toxin drugs derived drugs are there?
• 24:54
  statin drugs a big one statins are there are mold derived drug to dry from red yeast rice
• 25:00
  statins
• 25:01
  With lova statin was the first drug that came is called it was called a mevacore
• 25:05
  and made by a murk
• 25:08
  But that particular compound was derived from read yeast rice
• 25:11
  And that is micotoxin
• 25:13
  micotoxins suppresses cholesterol production
• 25:16
  But most importantly thing is that certain micotoxins also increases
• 25:21
  cholesterol production as well
• 25:22
  So it's so the common things that I see when I look at the lab function
• 25:25
  Especially persons like you know more about this cholesterol number. What is going on?
• 25:29
  So I look at the labs and look at the LDL levels super high
• 25:33
  Right
• 25:34
  Including there's some signs of metabolic disorder, but oftentimes the the reason that LDL we know this
• 25:40
  LDS increases because of cellular information
• 25:43
  Right, and then the issue another issue that comes into the body's protecting itself and stuff to deal with the inflammation to calm it down
• 25:50
  So they're basically the
• 25:51
  Fire squad coming in trying to put that down
• 25:54
  But then what we're doing getting statins lowering that so you're already causing double whammy problem
• 26:00
  So the your body's responding to protect itself
• 26:02
  You see a high number a doctor gives you not knowing what what you know
• 26:07
  They're trained they're not knowing they're trained to give statin drugs. Yeah, this is farmer world that I've been in for 20 years
• 26:13
  What I like about this interview because you're you're bringing in this this farmer world like you just taught me like three things
• 26:19
  I want to keep going around these microtoxin based drugs that are
• 26:22
  No, this is really fascinating. So it is fascinating and so when you look at that
• 26:26
  You're trying to quench your issue that is bodies overall mechanism to deal with this problem
• 26:33
  But another problem that you're definitely to see is that because a compromised bowel production
• 26:37
  You cannot get the access cholesterol out
• 26:40
  Right, and then when you look at microtoxin specifically orgretoxin and afloatoxin which is common in
• 26:45
  Coffee coffee food. Yeah, so those end up having to impact the rate limiting steps of how bowel gain produced
• 26:51
  So there's a particular enzyme called cytokrome 7a1
• 26:55
  Where these two microtoxins stop that production from bowel synthesis from happening in the liver and the liver
• 27:02
  Specifically and the second thing is there's called a b-sap which is bowel salt
• 27:07
  exchange pump right this is supposed to
• 27:10
  It's transport these bile, but that particular pump gets compromised by these two microtoxins as well
• 27:17
  Ocrotoxin a and afloatoxin. Yeah, right
• 27:20
  So you're looking at women dealing with estrogen-dominacy right people who are having high cholesterol issues
• 27:27
  All those are because of limited by a flow because bile is loaded with cholesterol
• 27:34
  And they just did a study a carbon study it said when
• 27:38
  Using carbon to lower cholesterol and that's honestly that's I discovered that probably 18 years ago. There was a study done
• 27:46
  Um, I won't get into it, but it was out of Italy and I'm like, that's how
• 27:49
  Came up with carbon to
• 27:52
  To bind bile because it was a cholesterol lowering drug and then we start using it and we saw c4a drop
• 27:58
  We saw people getting well, but we it constipated them that whole thing in bridging and black teeth because they were just drinking powder and then
• 28:04
  So, you know all these generations years and years and years if I like him up with true carbon
• 28:09
  Cleans and eliminated a lot of those those problems
• 28:12
  It was interesting that there there was a there was a feedback loop it wasn't necessarily
• 28:16
  The carbon binding the cholesterol that lowered the cholesterol on the body
• 28:20
  But it was how it drove cholesterol metabolism in the body. So it was a really interesting study
• 28:25
  So regardless synthesis basically yeah, it's down regulating it properly
• 28:29
  You know, man, man, a sense of it the biggest challenge with microtoxins
• 28:32
  Also is the fact that it causes lipoproxases. So actually oxidizes fat much more readily
• 28:38
  so
• 28:39
  Well, I think there's a good kind of segment. It doesn't tell in my own health story
• 28:42
  I had a heart attack when I was 33 years old as you know, right and
• 28:47
  At that point in time six month prior to the heart attack that I had I went to my doctor's office got blood work done
• 28:53
  Normal cholesterol EKG done was normal flying through the
• 28:56
  Actual physical with no issues six months later chest pain end up in an ER
• 29:02
  Stem put in because I had 85 percent blockage in my LAT
• 29:06
  Right, I have a stem put in energy of 33 years old
• 29:08
  Matter of fact, I was a youngest patient to get a stem put in a hospital
• 29:12
  That's such a good award. Yeah, but never did but old joking aside like
• 29:16
  That's that's not normal. That's not normal. That's not normal for for a young guy
• 29:19
  And one of the things that I got scared was first of they put me on a torbous down 80 milligrams
• 29:24
  Because you know what there's like there's a major problem you cannot having on a secondary heart attack
• 29:28
  So but the data shows that statins do not prevent secondary heart attacks from occurring
• 29:35
  And other issues what what's happened with with statin drugs statin drugs lower cocutin but also lowers
• 29:41
  Vitamin K2 which is derived from what more specificant as a microbiome metabolism
• 29:46
  So this is where statins affect microbiome
• 29:50
  Specifically because of statin drugs are mycotoxin derived it affects the integrity of your gut microbiome to be going
• 29:58
  So this is the reason why they found out that
• 30:01
  It affects now GLP ones in your in your system, but also that's the result of that
• 30:07
  statin drugs causing diabetes in people when you use it long term
• 30:12
  And they use them long term they all their life long now they're starting they're starting a younger and younger and younger and younger kids
• 30:19
  So it's literally
• 30:21
  Stopping it's affecting the microbiome. You said you threw out a trigger word
• 30:25
  GLP1 which is produced by acrimensia
• 30:28
  Acrimensia in your case is specific keystone bacteria. Yes specific keystones in your large intestine
• 30:33
  Large intestine is one and then you're talking about these keystone bacteria is actually producing
• 30:38
  Buttery which is short-chain fatty acid which is vitally needed as a food for your colonisites and your large intestine to feed on
• 30:45
  Right that also helps to protect your DNA
• 30:49
  It's a powerful powerful things that your body's already producing to produce to protect the self
• 30:55
  But also reversing these damages
• 30:57
  But when you have a
• 30:58
  gut integrity issue because of mycotoxins or overuse of antibiotic and sets all these things and more statins right more statins
• 31:05
  Specifically now. I don't know why I think
• 31:09
  The medical community right now do not understand the mechanisms of the particular drug like I do
• 31:14
  Well, that's what I love about you. It's this like you know what drugs do and you know where they come from because you
• 31:22
  Compound them, you know, you know, all the science. This is this is wonderful stuff. Yeah, so you're you're telling me about how statins affect the microbiome
• 31:30
  And of course how that if you're affecting the microbiome acrimensia and other
• 31:34
  Keystone bacteria that produce short-chain short-chain fatty acids which your cells need and your gut
• 31:39
  Sodiumation bottled there. Yeah, I do have a sodium yeah body bio one body bio. Yeah exactly just your cane and her husband
• 31:46
  Ed and you know just wonderful people like I really love that company, you know, I don't have any economic affiliation with them
• 31:53
  But they do they've done the work and they've created some real products that actually help people and honestly
• 31:58
  There's so many physician lines that that don't do it and we could get into that all day
• 32:02
  I think we've we've had a couple our conversation about that
• 32:05
  We had a phone conversation about that but my the specifically how I got into the whole lipid membrane medicine
• 32:10
  Right is the fact that after about a heart attack the first thing my doctor put me on was body bio PC
• 32:16
  But one of the things that really life-changing was we did something to go red blood cell fatty acid analysis
• 32:21
  This actually checks for the lipoproxasomes and then the renegade fat sector curves in your cell membrane
• 32:27
  But another thing that looks at is how fluid your cell membrane is your cell membrane supposed to be very fluid
• 32:32
  Yeah, so something you can come in bad things come out correct
• 32:35
  Yeah, but when you are undergoing through this whole cell danger response and mitochondria's function
• 32:39
  It is the mitochondria's role to stiffen up that cell membrane to prevent anything else to coming in
• 32:46
  Or getting out and that's the cell danger response
• 32:49
  Well the phenomena of cell danger response but specifically what happens is that these lipoproxasomes
• 32:55
  And these damaging issue dealing with the cell membrane and then also the lack of specifically like omega-6 and also omega-3
• 33:03
  Making the cell membrane to be very stiff
• 33:05
  Right so integrity of cell membrane gets affected
• 33:07
  So this is where the this particular test called red blood cell fatty acid analysis by Kennedy Krieger
• 33:13
  Was very powerful for me at that point in time when I was 33
• 33:17
  Looking at that and we sent that particular test results to Dr. Ed Kane at body bio
• 33:22
  And he's the one who actually formulated a customized lipid replacement therapy for me
• 33:27
  So I end up doing IVPC and God bless the soul. Yeah, he's passed on he passed away
• 33:31
  But you know now his daughter a grand daughter is now and her
• 33:36
  Husband Brad are on the company at this point and it's really
• 33:40
  The global outreach at this point much bigger than what Ed had thought about
• 33:45
  But now they took the mantle and they're running with it. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful
• 33:48
  I mean they're helping people huge. He keeps going because I don't want to yeah
• 33:52
  No, no, I keep getting you off track. I actually have that testing right over there
• 33:55
  That's not doing it. That's funny
• 33:57
  So that's a part that really helped me get my cellular health back
• 34:01
  And as was an important fact that they've you have to look at is that
• 34:04
  Mycotoxins not only causing immune and particularly allergies and all these symptoms
• 34:11
  but they actually
• 34:13
  Damage the mitochondria
• 34:15
  Right, so that it causes something called the DNA adduct so especially afotoxins and ochre toxins
• 34:21
  Truckathesons they actually bind to the DNA structure
• 34:24
  So when you do that, it changed the epigenetic expression to cell
• 34:28
  And as well as the DNA
• 34:30
  So the protein misfolding occurs
• 34:32
  Which resulted in a change in function of the particle organ. So if you're looking at
• 34:37
  Issue like autoimmune disease
• 34:39
  Right, we're looking at issues in when immune dysfunction all these different things including cardiac issues from mold issues
• 34:47
  That's the reason why and including heavy metals to the same thing
• 34:50
  So how do you reverse these thing called us DNA adduct?
• 34:53
  Well, this is something that's the question I was gonna ask. Yeah, this is this is this is where butyrate comes in as a chemical shaperone
• 35:00
  Butyrate comes in sodium butyrate specifically they come in and they cleave off these DNA adduct
• 35:06
  And then phospholipus comes in to
• 35:09
  mend the cell membrane but swoops it away and then tutka with the secondary basalt
• 35:14
  It's pathways into use
• 35:16
  This helps to
• 35:17
  Mendiprotein misfolding so you have a proper functioning cell membrane and expression of the DNA itself
• 35:23
  So this is where the preminifix comes in
• 35:25
  So there's a particular test and called IGL
• 35:27
  It's a German blood test looking at DNA adduct and we've seen
• 35:31
  Urosation of oral liposomophospholipids
• 35:35
  Including the bioactive oils like omega
• 35:37
  Specifically linear lake and aphaline lake and use of sodium butyrate was able to reverse these DNA adduct within six month period
• 35:46
  I like this very powerful. So we weren't supposed to top deep deep science today, but I knew we're gonna go there
• 35:52
  As a matter of fact, throw that bottle of butyrate. I want to take some you got me all excited about taking my butyrate
• 35:57
  I'm serious. So well another tip I'm gonna tell you yeah, let's just we want another tip
• 36:02
  Yeah, no tip let's just say you go to a restaurant and you're not even sure what kind of oil they use. Yeah, okay, and you're worried all about that
• 36:09
  Eat the food, okay afterwards take four capsule sodium butyrate to prevent these
• 36:15
  toxic oils from embedding into cell membrane
• 36:18
  So this this puts a protective layer butyrate is able to reverse it reverse it
• 36:22
  correct, so I can go eat seed oils again
• 36:25
  Don't overdo it, but instead that's the thing, but it's a very powerful way to do it
• 36:28
  This is what our gut microbiome is supposed to be doing for us
• 36:31
  Unfortunately because of the toxin exposure dealing right now with glyphosate
• 36:35
  Micotoxins right stress response all those things are up including pharmaceutical drugs are affecting our gut microbiome
• 36:43
  And the cellular integrity as well. How do we how do we heal our body by the integrity and the actual
• 36:51
  Function of the cell membrane is what dictates healing
• 36:54
  And oftentimes we're not having to have the adequate amount of food and waste until it's protecting that
• 37:00
  That's such a big deal and it's so overlooked and there's so many canned programs out there
• 37:06
  People over promising under delivering when it comes to this and it is a cellular issue
• 37:11
  You know toxins are
• 37:13
  They're everywhere right and your body if it's healthy if the bucket's not full if we can get those buckets down
• 37:20
  Some of that cell danger response goes away some of that mass cell can go away
• 37:24
  And we can start feeling better, you know, you're you're giving a lot of tools. So if there's
• 37:28
  Some of you what's your
• 37:30
  Three top tools to get people feeling better
• 37:33
  If they've been exposed to mold and they can't afford all the things that red blood cell fatty analysis is expensive test
• 37:39
  And there's you know, I have access to those tools clients that come do you have access to those tools
• 37:44
  But not everyone has the means and a lot of the nontoxic living community doesn't have a ton of disposable income
• 37:50
  So how can besides moving the environment, right? I mean that's key
• 37:54
  Right moving the environment, but then also remediation as well, right?
• 37:57
  You if you have a house and you're already
• 37:59
  Living in it bought it. It's hard to just
• 38:03
  Pick up everything else and moving and that's a chance a lot of people do huge challenge
• 38:06
  But also the cost of remediation testing itself is expensive, but yeah thousands of dollars remediation
• 38:11
  Also, I mean, I have a client right now. She's spending $150,000 just to remediate her
• 38:15
  5,000 square feet house, right because her addict her basements affected her kitchens affected
• 38:22
  So these already existing issues that she she was not aware of and bought the house
• 38:26
  We can't go back and get a refund on the house, right? So what do we do at this point in time? So you have to really assess
• 38:33
  What you could do and then?
• 38:35
  Control what you can number one what you could control is the exposure of the mold itself, right?
• 38:42
  So getting a good HEPA filter is a most powerful thing that I could recommend doing
• 38:47
  Right, so in a interim I'll recommend this particular brand of HEPA L filter called Jasper
• 38:53
  I love that particular band the reason being is not that Mike well. Yeah, yeah, so I mean yeah
• 38:58
  So that a Jasper it's a good it's a good price point. I think there's some better filters out there
• 39:03
  But that's a good price point price point wise. Yeah smart. Yeah is able to detect volatile gases
• 39:09
  So for instance if you have that air filter next year in your kitchen you had a
• 39:13
  Little burn or does a smoke going on
• 39:16
  It's going to detect that volatile gas right quickly and then filter out the a fume
• 39:20
  Yeah, very well particular matter correct
• 39:22
  Which is very rare for air filters out there
• 39:25
  But that's the one that I recommend doing and it's one of the best ones out there
• 39:30
  So that's number one. So I would recommend you know putting as a full blast in each room and reducing the load
• 39:35
  And then as well as getting a good
• 39:39
  If filters in your HVAC so make sure you you you assess the damage cleaning things out
• 39:46
  And then trying to get those particular matters reduce as much as possible. What nerve rating would you recommend?
• 39:51
  Minimum for you know, it's obviously rated for the for the HVAC unit. Yeah, but what would you think?
• 39:56
  Merve 13 Merve 12 Merve 11 get 13 13. Yeah, yeah, so that's the part that's often
• 40:03
  Overlooked and you got to find the right HVAC company as well to really assess that
• 40:08
  So that's really good. So the air quality really matters
• 40:10
  Yeah, right because once you control the air quality at least the particular that you're dealing with
• 40:14
  We do so so some of the symptoms you're dealing with could be less
• 40:17
  Yeah, so I want to go there real quick because I know this is you know kind of we're in the same wheelhouse
• 40:22
  When it comes to air filtration and you said this earlier is that the the micotoxins
• 40:28
  Fly on the rafts or the Aladdin, you know carpets of of dust particles
• 40:34
  So what you're saying is it's so critical for someone who's dealing and living in mold
• 40:38
  If you can knock down that dust load you're going to knock down your
• 40:41
  micotoxin exposure because they need those dust particles to find you and get into your body
• 40:45
  And also you could commonly clean those areas very well. So there's a
• 40:50
  Cleaning agent called de-con30 benefit. Yeah benefit. Yeah great out of Canada. Yeah, I love that part too
• 40:56
  But the reason being I'm loyal thai my oil is gentle
• 40:59
  It won't cause any harsh chemicals to be floating around after you cleaning it
• 41:04
  So what I recommend there's any common areas. I was very dusty making sure you clean it out
• 41:08
  And so the ways to reducing particle load is
• 41:12
  Cleaning right being consistent with cleaning as really the important fact of it
• 41:16
  So deep cleaning your home wiping off flat surfaces removing the dust using benefit
• 41:22
  To hit visible mold visible
• 41:24
  You could you could you could you could kill off the mold, but you got to make sure to wear mask
• 41:30
  Sometimes N95 is not enough because these micotoxins are
• 41:35
  You know less than point to microns going to penetrate to N95 mask
• 41:38
  So you want to get an N100 the big bulky mask that they get in 100
• 41:43
  So you'll be very careful with that
• 41:44
  But if you are sensitive to begin with don't touch them. Don't touch it. Just leave it. Leave it alone
• 41:48
  Leave it in place. So you can have it properly removed. Remove this one. And the second thing is
• 41:52
  You know, you got to protect your kids. That's the most vital thing, right? If you are
• 41:57
  Suspecting doesn't mold in the basement. Don't go into basement
• 42:00
  Don't have your kids or anyone else sleeping down there. That's that's number one
• 42:04
  So you want to protect that get them out of the basement get them out of the damp area correct
• 42:07
  And then making sure your humidity level is less than I would say for less than 40%
• 42:12
  Come on. That's I agree with you on that because it 50% it's grown mold on even if your house is consistently
• 42:18
  50% or even a little bit higher 55%
• 42:22
  That paper even if you opened up your wall while cavity. It's not gonna be a ton of mold in there
• 42:26
  You're not gonna visibly see it
• 42:28
  But some of these molds that aren't black like stachy they're growing if it's 50%
• 42:34
  They're that that paper has mold on it and it's and it's growing
• 42:38
  It might not be crazy amounts
• 42:40
  So I love that you say 40% or less because you need to make sure that wall cavity
• 42:44
  Which could be a little higher and because it's outside and it's if you're in a humid area
• 42:50
  You're growing mold you got to get that inside it 40% so that wall cavity
• 42:54
  Is less than 50% or you're growing massive amounts of mold on your drywall drywall should be banned
• 42:59
  That's a whole another topic. Oh, yeah
• 43:01
  Well done and then you also should actually have more mold resistant materials like hemp should utilize in building houses
• 43:07
  I think
• 43:08
  But I love how you you built your house into this house set up into as it being much more
• 43:14
  Equal-friendly in that sense of dealing with mold issues. So kudos to you
• 43:17
  Yeah, I'm trying to do better all the time
• 43:19
  So I'm these are really great solutions for people that can't do it
• 43:23
  So get that humidity down put in those air filters wipe down your home with benefit
• 43:28
  You can use that literally as your cleaning agent. So that's a wonderful cleaning agent. So
• 43:33
  What are some other things people can do to get feeling better?
• 43:35
  Because I want people to get feeling better. This is a yeah, I hate seeing people sick because I've been there
• 43:40
  I mean it's suffering. You're not sleeping. You're tossing and turning your your mean. You have no energy. You can't enjoy life like
• 43:46
  You just you know you almost died
• 43:48
  That's what I did and a second the the other thing that I would also recommend doing is
• 43:53
  Getting your house well ventilated open the windows, right? If you can open the windows making sure the entirety houses
• 44:00
  Well ventilated the more air flow that's actually in the house the better it is for you
• 44:04
  Right, so that's another thing that you could definitely do
• 44:06
  So because my microtoxins in mold are just concentrating and the solution to pollution is dilution you come in and do that
• 44:13
  Air air exchange is in Germany. It's called stufluffton
• 44:16
  You know where they do I guess it is
• 44:19
  Stufluffton it's a viral video. I actually did one, but you do you just open your windows up for 15 minutes. Oh, yeah
• 44:26
  And do cross ventilation
• 44:28
  They call it there's another name for it too, but stufluffton is essentially where you you open it up really quickly for 15 minutes
• 44:35
  Let it exchange and then close it and do that three to four times a day big reason for that
• 44:40
  If you leave them all the time you can create temperature differential and that can cause condensation and mold to grow
• 44:45
  So one reason why you just do it for 15 minutes and two if you have a humidity issue and especially if you don't have enough
• 44:52
  Do you minifiers to keep up with it if you opened up on a human day
• 44:56
  For a half hour an hour you're gonna that that that humidity you're not be able to drop it in that critical 24-hour window where you can activate
• 45:05
  The dormant mold in your in your walls. So that's stuflifton or some other name that I can't remember
• 45:12
  But yeah, no opening windows is the most impactful thing they could do and it's free
• 45:16
  Yes, those are things that you could easily do and then next part is to really
• 45:20
  Assessing how much of a damage you actually have right
• 45:24
  So you're gonna have to really find the right testing company and it could be
• 45:28
  Expensive, but it could be well money spent the reason being is you want to assess what kind of damage you're dealing with
• 45:34
  And in order to doing remediation
• 45:37
  You don't have to remit the
• 45:39
  Entire thing right away you could do in a step-by-step in terms of what's more critical and getting to what's needed
• 45:45
  Right, so that's often not talked about and so one of the things that you really have to look at is HVAC
• 45:51
  Right any water damage areas you want to be still and getting that properly remediated and cleaned and sanitized
• 45:56
  You also have to find the right remediation company that's going to be utilizing protective gears
• 46:01
  Inside the house. So this way the more particle doesn't
• 46:04
  Flavor everywhere. Yeah, just can re-contaminate your whole house
• 46:07
  You have to have containment have to have to be under negative pressure
• 46:10
  You can look it up hot today, you know
• 46:13
  And videos how to create negative pressure remediation units. You could do self remediation
• 46:17
  Because honestly some of these remedying companies, you know, they don't remediate properly
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  They don't know oftentimes they don't know what to do
• 46:24
  Yeah, that's the something that I noticed or this is another problem the more remediation company
• 46:28
  They don't know how to look at the mycotoxin test and correctly either no, which is really alarming
• 46:33
  And they don't know much about mycotoxin
• 46:35
  They don't and then they they aren't a business, but they don't know much
• 46:38
  Which is another thing. So I I you know like to work with we inspect
• 46:42
  We inspect. Yeah, so Brian and Corey
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  Yeah, Brian I know them. Yep, and then home clients is one of the people that
• 46:48
  Company like Mike Mike Rubino down in Florida that recommend my clients down there to work with him
• 46:53
  So you got to find the right company to do this and they fly all over the country. They do
• 46:58
  Yeah, I know those guys
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  They can be a little more expensive, but they know what they're doing
• 47:02
  And sometimes when you don't not sometimes oftentimes if you don't find a right testing company
• 47:07
  It's going to cost you more money
• 47:09
  Yeah, if you do it wrong the first time you could
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  Create massive downstream consequence. I've seen that over and over again. It just you're still sick. You're sicker
• 47:19
  Your
• 47:20
  They're being mold off. They're making it mad. It's you know, you start causing a fight between mold or
• 47:26
  uh
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  Hit it with compounds that aren't right. You're you make it mad and it's going to start more firing off
• 47:33
  Yeah, I'm talking more micotoxins and this is where people get sicker after doing remediation incorrectly
• 47:39
  So I always recommend
• 47:42
  Spend the money due to investment right but also making sure you're doing step-by-step measures in terms of what's fitting your budget
• 47:49
  And then don't panic if you start panicking
• 47:51
  It's more issues in your body. Yeah, and it's really tough like I have a lot of
• 47:57
  I've known a lot of people. I've been this person
• 47:59
  I have friends right now that are living in a basement that floods all the time and they just can't make decision
• 48:05
  I'm like put your sum pump in cut a hole for the concrete and they're just literally
• 48:10
  uh
• 48:12
  Locked up in decision-making. I don't the word I'm looking for and and if you are that person where you just can't make a decision to do the right thing
• 48:20
  Like this particular individual I'm telling for two years like get your sum pump drill a hole through I'll pay for it like
• 48:27
  And then put some do you metifiers in there at least
• 48:29
  Remove your basement from flooding because it should have a sum pump you bought the wrong house
• 48:34
  You know that people didn't disclose this that it floods every spring and it continues to flood like it's so sad
• 48:41
  Because it's wreaking havoc on his children and you know all this stuff
• 48:45
  But if you're that person who can't make a decision
• 48:47
  That's right for you get a friend tag in one of your friends and say look
• 48:50
  I'm struggling to make a decision. I have mode in my home. Can you help me make these decisions? Can you help me?
• 48:56
  You know do some of the things that we've recommended when you listen and share this podcast with them
• 49:01
  Because it is a big deal and you made me just think of something
• 49:05
  HVACs are a big because the coil right it's dusty you need to get it cleaned every year and you're not
• 49:12
  It's been 10 years. There's dust. There's mold growing all over your house even smells mold
• 49:17
  And you can't even afford to get that cleaned right now because your family's sick and it's in your basement and it's damp and it's
• 49:24
  You know blowing microtoxins and mold spores
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  Right from the vent onto your children. What do you think about just shutting down your HVAC
• 49:33
  Putting in a window air conditioner in the summer until you can afford to do something like that would would shutting down
• 49:39
  I think HVACs are a big exposure. Would you say like shut it down or now you're going to have a humidity issue
• 49:44
  It's going to be humidity issues. Yeah, so this is the environment aspect of it. Sometimes you got to have to cut the losses
• 49:49
  Yeah, unfortunately, and that's the got to find a way to get it done
• 49:51
  You got to get it done or cut the losses and moving and move and move and that's that's a part it's often times
• 49:56
  And this is this is a part that I see with clients
• 49:59
  When they're in the moldy house they're symptomatic and they don't even know they're dealing with mold
• 50:04
  And then they're like you don't have to chem
• 50:06
  I was in vacation. I was in this resort. I feel much better
• 50:09
  Well, yeah, because the mold exposure you were dealing with at home. It's no more
• 50:13
  And so your system now is calming down and then when you get home you're inflamed again
• 50:19
  Hey, you're back in the mold. So that's the problem right now
• 50:21
  So I have I have one client who's having a challenging issue at this point on the biggest issue is
• 50:26
  You know, she is leasing right now and the um certain states
• 50:30
  They don't protect
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  And that's the big big problem like I
• 50:35
  You know, I owned the house and that particular house was um very moldy. I was able to you know quickly
• 50:40
  Remediate the issue wasn't the attic and I was get I was to get out and sold it
• 50:44
  But the second place I got into and I didn't look at the apartment
• 50:48
  Well and they had black mold
• 50:50
  But luckily enough that I was able to cut the lease out and then get out because I told them like you know
• 50:54
  There's an issue. I'm having some help problem and they were able to listen, but often times these
• 51:00
  Uh tenant and especially rental laws are not protecting tenants correctly
• 51:05
  No, it's super sad and the real estate aid and real estate mold is like let's just
• 51:09
  shove it underneath the the rug and and uh because it's going to break the deal and if you break the deal
• 51:14
  You're not making money and it's you know, you're making me sad now
• 51:17
  So like I'm getting sad for you know all the people that
• 51:20
  That are struggling but you were going down a really great path of what people can do
• 51:25
  um air flow
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  Cleaning wiping down air filters
• 51:30
  Moving if possible would be another one. What else can people do to get feeling better
• 51:35
  Especially if they don't have the absolutely have cash one thing I recommend doing is
• 51:40
  Getting a circadian rhythm dialed in especially waking up proper time um getting
• 51:45
  Atticum on a sunlight and that particular sunlight exposure early in the morning help to really clean out some of the
• 51:50
  Asher dealing with sell your stress. It's really helpful doesn't cost you anything. Yeah, right making sure you adequate eat
• 51:56
  You gotta eat if you're not eating well. You cannot detox either, right?
• 52:00
  So those are things that you could definitely do making sure you're a cleaner also
• 52:04
  Get it out of my sunlight in the middle of the day to get out of my vitamin D
• 52:08
  But that actually helps to create antioxidants in the cells
• 52:11
  To clear these things out correctly as well
• 52:14
  So clients who actually work with who do really well on these part
• 52:17
  They often able to get through a mold issue within like five to six months and close out
• 52:22
  And that's a really the the biggest things that I've noticed that want you down this uh circadian rhythm
• 52:27
  They work on the cellular impact of it
• 52:29
  And then getting to the the step-by-step in terms of getting to utilize right my my end time microbial such as your antifungals
• 52:36
  And biofilm you have to address and all these things including fixing your gut is where it's going to make the huge impact there
• 52:43
  So what else can you use in the meantime like in terms of therapy wise if you don't have the means
• 52:47
  This is where certain binders can be helpful, right?
• 52:50
  But you got to assess whether you're dealing with constipation issues and that but yeah generally
• 52:55
  Doing a binder is very helpful. I recommend doing infrared sauna with some binders
• 53:01
  And I would also add some tutka on top of that to increase ball flow
• 53:05
  Tutka didn't teach us ball flow flow. Does that a what is is that an herb?
• 53:09
  It's a secondary bowel salt. Oh bowel salt. Yeah. Okay. So secondary bowel salt
• 53:14
  It like I said it it helps to
• 53:17
  Unfold the protein misfolding and decrease stress and the endoplasmic teculum in the cell itself
• 53:23
  But what it does actually increases ball flow, which is really the key things that it's really needed
• 53:28
  So um on top of it helps to protect and reversing DNA damage
• 53:32
  Especially if a binder going on you want to increase that bio flow because that's going to have a lot of these micotoxins in it
• 53:37
  They're fat soluble toxins. They don't get urinate like do get urinated out
• 53:40
  But they also a lot get stuck in the bile and you want to get that bile through your liver through your gallbladder
• 53:46
  Into the upper small intestine or the where the binder can be right
• 53:50
  And that really lowers that bucket. Okay, so we we're on the same page and a lot of these things you're you're saying
• 53:56
  I don't know how many times because I had programs and detox and and
• 54:01
  You know there's so many people just for whatever reason they can't afford anything. I'm like look
• 54:06
  Sweat go outside moves you sweat out toxins sweat isn't for cooling off don't
• 54:11
  Don't let anyone fool you this stuff's going to show up if you have an infrared sauna
• 54:15
  Use binders. They're not super expensive, you know 35 40 bucks for true carbon plens, you know get it on sale
• 54:22
  like it makes it makes a big difference and
• 54:26
  Going outside you need to sleep more
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  Sun
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  Activates AMP which is your immune system a proper immune response that can help
• 54:38
  downregulate some of the battle that you're having within right and it's free because the sunshine does so much
• 54:44
  does so much it the infrared spectrum is going to drive
• 54:48
  The electron transport train right it's going to help drive mitochondrial energy even if you're weak like there's
• 54:53
  Movement your lymphatic movement. You're not sitting. Yeah, you know, you can't sit around like you can't say what
• 54:59
  I don't have it. I can't do it. No get outside and
• 55:02
  I've found just to add to exactly what you're saying is grounding
• 55:06
  And it's not voodoo science. It it is a it is an IV antioxidant to your body
• 55:11
  It's in other countries. It's part of standard of care. You you got a ground if you have a heart condition
• 55:16
  You got to go out and ground. It's going to help with your heart condition
• 55:20
  These are these medical doctors are saying in other countries and it's all through literature and it's free
• 55:26
  But it's not tied to a blood work. It's not tied to some medication and
• 55:30
  You know, it's not even tied to a lot of the natural health practitioners out there that are doing functional medicine
• 55:37
  A lot of them do but a bulk of them would never do that. Now here's the test and here's where you're at and here's the protocol
• 55:43
  I learned you know at an event and this is what you're going to do it
• 55:47
  No, you got to remember we're connected to nature and we know how to heal and a lot of things you just mentioned are just
• 55:54
  Nature and that's it, but also specifically Sun
• 55:58
  Once it hits your eyes and then help to activate the palm see what it also does is it actually helps to
• 56:06
  Structurize water in the cell itself. So structural water is really important in terms of the in the whole fourth phase discussion by a doctor
• 56:13
  Gerald Pollock
• 56:14
  It's a basic the negative ion charge that occurs in the water able to repel
• 56:19
  But also has that energy to move. So one of the things that we notice is that as you start getting more
• 56:25
  Inferred exposure not just about red light therapy
• 56:28
  You know my actual sunlight. I was structuralized at water in the cells that able to repel these toxins out of the cells
• 56:34
  But also helps to creating more energy and vibrancy is really important thing and also hydrate the cell to begin with so
• 56:41
  Things that God gave us for free
• 56:43
  All right, you know to you don't make sense. I'm so excited right now
• 56:46
  And then grounding itself what it was doing is it drops to increase redox potential in the cell
• 56:51
  Increasing more energy production and that in itself is another powerful ways in terms of
• 56:55
  Structuralizing water and creating that exclusion zone criteria in the cell self that you having much more
• 57:02
  Energy and the vibrancy that's the cell supposed to be having so everything that I do in terms of like the cell your support the detox
• 57:09
  At the end of the day is to creating more energy production aka more redox potential in the cell
• 57:15
  That's what it is
• 57:16
  But the problem is that micro toxins decreases electron port these
• 57:21
  Charges and the redox potential. So I'll give you an example. I mean this more scientific in that sense
• 57:26
  I said but afotoxins
• 57:28
  Tracothycins gliotoxins ochrotoxins do's end up having to impact
• 57:33
  Complex one and three of the electron transport chain
• 57:36
  So that means that you're not able to produce ATP correctly
• 57:39
  But also what it does is because the sense of danger that goes on
• 57:43
  The ATP production that you already have in your cells gets dumped out extra cellularly
• 57:48
  That causes a alarming signal for the other cells like hey, there's an issue going on
• 57:53
  We're gonna have to shut shut the energy production down to going to fighting mode
• 57:58
  This is why people get stuck and why they're getting such a dysfunctional state and mitochondria dysfunction from mold exposure or any a type of
• 58:06
  Botoxin issues. You know your stuff. I love this. It's exciting
• 58:10
  It's neat talking to somebody who's helping people who's been through it himself
• 58:14
  That understands that the chemistry behind it the chemistry of drugs how they're affecting our microbiome how they're affecting our health
• 58:22
  I learned so much from you brother. This is
• 58:25
  Thank you. I don't I don't I don't typically learn a ton when it comes to biotoxic illness
• 58:30
  not mold illness, but I mean
• 58:33
  Man, I know that everyone watching today learned so much and you gave so many powerful tools
• 58:39
  How can people get a hold of you you ask you questions
• 58:42
  potentially on board as a as a new client if they're a right fit absolutely
• 58:46
  You go to my website doctor john kim.com
• 58:49
  You could actually take a free assessment of your mitochondria dysfunction or any type of illness you're dealing with there's a free questionnaire
• 58:55
  Get in. It's really comprehensive to detect that you could learn a lot about my methodology to helping people
• 59:01
  It's called the encore method. It stands for environmental factor nervous regulation
• 59:05
  Sally optimization optimizing detox pathway rebalance the microbiome enhancing resiliency everything
• 59:11
  There's just talked about today is basically the encore method in terms of how do we impact the environment?
• 59:16
  So this way you start feeling safe
• 59:19
  Right the safety is really important to driving down that
• 59:23
  sympathetic nervous system state that in parasympathetic
• 59:25
  So this is where the nervous system is really important to create a coherency state in the body
• 59:30
  And the Sally optimization you solve body bio
• 59:34
  phospholipids or all the essential
• 59:36
  bioactive oils really important factor in terms of getting this cell membrane correctly
• 59:41
  Flourishing and then being pliable and creating that energy
• 59:44
  Amen, and then rebound some microbiome and so that's the part that I'm going to be teaching in that
• 59:49
  I also have a free community that people could join as well
• 59:51
  That's also really appreciate you being here great information
• 59:55
  A lot of the stuff are on the same page man. This has been awesome. Thank you. It was a blessing
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