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FRIDAY NIGHT SPECIAL : Rex Heuermann Cleared in Murder of "Peaches" and 2-Year-Old · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Rex Hereman.
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  Speaker 2: The name will live forever in infamy, along names like
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  Speaker 2: Ted Bundy, BTK, buying torture, Kill, Dennis Raider, Timothy McVeigh,
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  Speaker 2: Charles Manson. Oh gosh, I could go on. Rex Hereman,
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  Speaker 2: the alleged Long Island serial killer awaiting trial. We know
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  Speaker 2: what he did to his victims, horrific, horrific murderers after horrific,
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  Speaker 2: horrific sex torture while his wife and children were out
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  Speaker 2: of town in a basement dungeon, then burying them so
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  Speaker 2: he could look at their graves every day when he
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  Speaker 2: went to work on Long Island there at Gilgo Beach.
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  Speaker 2: And that is tonight's Friday Night Special and it is
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  Speaker 2: very very special. Oh Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Rex Heureman. Cops say he.
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  Speaker 2: Is the Long Island serial killer. I believe he can
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  Speaker 2: be connected and will be connected to many many other
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  Speaker 2: dead bodies. But for tonight, for our Friday Night Special,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're.
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  Speaker 1: Sitting down.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at the faces of all the women
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  Speaker 2: he allegedly murdered one, two, three, four, five, I mean
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  Speaker 2: on and on, five, six, seven and counting all these
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  Speaker 2: women dead at the hands of Rex Hureman.
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  Speaker 1: What do we know, Nancy?
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  Speaker 3: As you said, rex Huerman is suspected in and charged
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  Speaker 3: in multiple gruesome murders of young sex workers on Long Island,
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  Speaker 3: but now he has been cleared in the strangulation death
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  Speaker 3: of Colleen McNamee. The twenty year old was beaten, strangled,
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  Speaker 3: and dumped near William Floyd Parkway in nineteen ninety four.
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  Speaker 3: DNA testing cleared Hureman in connection with the murder. Quoting
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  Speaker 3: from the coroner's report, A comparison between cyber Genetics developed
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  Speaker 3: profile Unknown Male A and the DNA profile of rex
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  Speaker 3: Huerman was performed. Assuming that the unknown male A profile
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  Speaker 3: is a mixture without any illegal dropout and strictly based
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  Speaker 3: on possibly on possible genotypes present in the profile, rex
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  Speaker 3: Hueerman is excluded as unknown male A end quote. The
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  Speaker 3: DNA test was conducted following a request by convicted killer
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  Speaker 3: John Mittrolf. He was convicted in twenty seventeen of killing
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  Speaker 3: macnamee and Rita Tangridy. Her battered body was found in
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  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three. Birolf tried to pin McNamee's murder on
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  Speaker 3: Heuerman DNA proved to claim innocent, but in seven other
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  Speaker 3: cases it is DNA evidence linking Heureman, the accused serial killer,
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  Speaker 3: to seven other bodies Valerie Mack, Jessica Taylor, Megan Waterman,
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  Speaker 3: Melissa Barthelmy twenty four, Maureene Brainerd Barnes twenty five, Sandra
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  Speaker 3: Costilla twenty eight, and Amberlin Costello twenty seven. They were
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  Speaker 3: murdered between nineteen ninety three and twenty ten. Huerman, a
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  Speaker 3: Manhattan architect, denied he was behind the gruesome killings. He
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  Speaker 3: has been held since his arrest without bail. Meanwhile, Biterolf,
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  Speaker 3: a fifty eight year old former carpenter, is now serving
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  Speaker 3: fifty years to life for the two murders.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly do we know about the murders?
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  Speaker 2: Rex Huerman uh very well respected architect behind bars in
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  Speaker 2: the desks of many women, connected in time and location,
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  Speaker 2: many of them sex workers, all of them daughters, mothers, sisters, girlfriends.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: It is one of the most baffling serial murder cases
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  Speaker 4: in modern American history. Centered on this lonely stretch of
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  Speaker 4: sand on the south shore.
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  Speaker 5: Of Long Island, New York.
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  Speaker 4: Gilg Be just a small community with a big mystery
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  Speaker 4: on its hands. The bodies of fifteen brutally murdered young women,
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  Speaker 4: and there seems to be a pattern, many of them
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  Speaker 4: under five feet tall and less than one hundred pounds,
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  Speaker 4: all dumped in the surrounding dunes over a period of
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  Speaker 4: twenty years.
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  Speaker 6: There's been some new developments in the gig investigation.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, a.
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  Speaker 6: Little bit around a thirty PM in the vicinity of
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  Speaker 6: thirty fifth and fifth Avenue in the city, members assigned
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  Speaker 6: to the Gilgo Beach Task Force did place one individual
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  Speaker 6: under arrest.
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  Speaker 7: After years of searching and fear, years of true crime
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  Speaker 7: hobbyists and their theories, Rex, did you do?
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  Speaker 8: It?
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  Speaker 7: Turned out the suspected Gilgo Beach killer was hiding in
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  Speaker 7: plain sight the whole time. Fifty nine year old Rex Huerman,
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  Speaker 7: a suburban husband, father of two, and copsay the.
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  Speaker 6: A demon that walks among us, a predator that ruined families.
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  Speaker 6: If not for the members of this task force, he
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  Speaker 6: would still be on the streets today, you darn Wright.
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  Speaker 2: If not for this newly formed task force instituted by
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  Speaker 2: the new elected District Attorney, this guy would still be
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  Speaker 2: walking free. And I guarantee you would still be killing
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  Speaker 2: and I've got sacs to support that theory. You were
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  Speaker 2: just hearing our friends at Crime Watch DLA WABC seven
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  Speaker 2: and the Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison with me
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  Speaker 2: an all star panel. But first I want to go
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  Speaker 2: to a special guest joining us, Anthony M.
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  Speaker 1: Carter.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Deputy Police commission in Suffolk County. Deputy Commissioner, Man,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a long time coming. I want to hear
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  Speaker 2: your reaction to the arrest of a prominent architect, a father, husband.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of hard.
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  Speaker 2: To believe, but you guys have known for some time
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  Speaker 2: and keeping it on the down low what was happening
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  Speaker 2: because you had intel. This guy was watching the police's
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  Speaker 2: every move.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know. It all began when Commissioner Harrison took
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  Speaker 9: office here at the Suffolk County Police Department and one
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  Speaker 9: of his top priorities was the Google Beach investigation, and
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  Speaker 9: he had a vision. As you know, the former chief
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  Speaker 9: of Detective is the NYPD former Chief of Department and
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  Speaker 9: the experience that he had. One of the things he
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  Speaker 9: knew is that we needed to get a fresh look
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  Speaker 9: at the case and we needed to get our law
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  Speaker 9: enforcement partners involved, and Commissioner Harrison created this task force,
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  Speaker 9: called it the Google Beach Task Force, and it comprised
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  Speaker 9: of investigators from the State Police, the District Attorney's office,
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  Speaker 9: the Sheriff's department.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you cut out on me right there for
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  Speaker 2: a second, but I think you said the FBI. And
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  Speaker 2: in the past, before the Knee regime, there was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of resistance to bringing in the FBI. But when
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  Speaker 2: you've got women dyeing, going missing and now all these
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  Speaker 2: bodies turning up unsolved, Hey, you know what, I'm happy
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  Speaker 2: for all the help I can get every single day.
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  Speaker 2: So I just canngratulate late you and your Commissioner Harrison
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  Speaker 2: on this arrest.
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  Speaker 1: And it was it was a joint effort. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I like that about you and your boss.
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  Speaker 2: You don't try to hog the limelight or say it's
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  Speaker 2: all about you. You really always give the credit to
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  Speaker 2: everyone involved. And you know, standing by right now, Kristin
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  Speaker 2: Thorn is with me, very well known investigative reporter to
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  Speaker 2: be ABC Channel seven eyewitness News host of Hulu's new
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  Speaker 2: crime show Missing Kristin. It's great to have you and
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  Speaker 2: you have stood by you and I both have plodded
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  Speaker 2: around there at the beach looking for clues, trying to
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  Speaker 2: find answers.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe we've finally got an arrest?
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  Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, Kristin just in time, because
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  Speaker 2: this pos technical legal term was caught on camera at
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  Speaker 2: a cell phone store paying in cash from what I
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  Speaker 2: can tell, for more burner phone minutes. That's his You
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  Speaker 2: want to tell me this guy's out of business? H
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  Speaker 2: E double l n oh, he's still at it, Kristin.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Nancy, And I think that's what's really scary about
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  Speaker 8: this entire situation and why law enforcement decided it was time. Look,
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  Speaker 8: they wanted to have Maureen Brainerd Barnes included in this indictment,
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  Speaker 8: and she is absolutely mentioned in this indictment.
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  Speaker 2: Well, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, Well, hold on, lady, back
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  Speaker 2: it up.
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  Speaker 1: You're going warped four before we can get there. There's
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  Speaker 1: so many bodies.
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  Speaker 2: But you often hear of the Gilg four, correct me
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  Speaker 2: if I'm on, Kristin, But you are correct. The Gilgo
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  Speaker 2: four were all found in burlap bags, similarly bound naked,
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  Speaker 2: having been sex assaulted, which really links them together right now,
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  Speaker 2: This architect, this dad, this husband, is charged with six counts,
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  Speaker 2: three murders, three felony murder charges, three second degree murder charges,
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  Speaker 2: three victims, but just a matter of days, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: before he's charged with the fourth. Then we got to
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  Speaker 2: deal with all the other dead bodies. But you refer
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  Speaker 2: to a woman, Brainerd Barnes, Marine, Brainerd Barnes, aged twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: He's the prime suspect and she's number four in the
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  Speaker 2: you'll go four? Did I make that clear?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, yes, And so the.
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  Speaker 8: Law enforcement knew that they had to get him now
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  Speaker 8: because they were worried about what he may do next.
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  Speaker 8: What he was looking on his phone.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, creepy dude, Kristin, creepy dude. You know, my
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  Speaker 2: daughter and my son, they'll see they're just fifteen. They'll
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  Speaker 2: see somebody and go, okay, that's a creepy dude right there.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us Kristin about this creepy dude going up to
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  Speaker 2: a woman in a park setting in the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of months and completely scheving her out.
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  Speaker 8: He was walking around and she was in the woods
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  Speaker 8: as a nice wooded park and massive people park, and
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  Speaker 8: she was walking around and he, as she says, came
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  Speaker 8: up behind him and was asking about her boyfriend. And
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  Speaker 8: you know, he's a very big man.
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  Speaker 11: Six'.
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  Speaker 1: Four, hey what do you put him? At Anthony?
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  Speaker 2: Carter, Guys i'm speaking To Anthony, carter but he is
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  Speaker 2: the deputy Police. COMMISSIONER i, Mean i'm acting Like i'm
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  Speaker 2: sitting here having a cup of coffee with this. Guy
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  Speaker 2: he's been on this from the get, go since he
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  Speaker 2: came in and they formed a new task.
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  Speaker 1: Force how much does this guy? Way what'd you put him?
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  Speaker 1: At two?
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  Speaker 9: Forty, YEAH i mean he's a very large. INDIVIDUAL i
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  Speaker 9: would definitely, say, yeah right around there around that two
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  Speaker 9: hundred and forty pound. Mark very just very just an,
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  Speaker 9: oversized you, know very large. Man and you know, YEAH i,
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  Speaker 9: MEAN i know everybody's seen that YouTube, video you, know
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  Speaker 9: and where he's towering over the person that's conducting the
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  Speaker 9: interview with.
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  Speaker 2: Him Crime stores With Nancy grace in the last days
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  Speaker 2: In New York State Supreme Court justice rules DAMNING DNA
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  Speaker 2: ev it's tying Rex huerman to the murders of many
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  Speaker 2: women whose remains are found Near Gilgo beach will come
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  Speaker 2: in to. TRIAL i just think about. It these are
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  Speaker 2: the bodies we know, about are there other. BODIES i
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  Speaker 2: would be very surprised if there were. Not Doctor Bessie,
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  Speaker 2: marshall you go up to a woman in a, park
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  Speaker 2: sneak up behind her and, go, hey who's your?
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  Speaker 1: BOYFRIEND i would run.
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  Speaker 10: Anthy what it tells me is that he was constantly
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  Speaker 10: trolling for, victims and as a part of trolling for,
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  Speaker 10: victims he had this whole list of. QUESTIONS i, mean
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  Speaker 10: number one would, be, hey do you have a?
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  Speaker 12: Boyfriend who's your?
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  Speaker 10: Boyfriend the reason for that is who is he going
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  Speaker 10: to have to separate the woman from is does she have?
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  Speaker 10: Family does she of people who's interested in? Her and if,
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  Speaker 10: so it's going to make it more difficult to kidnap
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  Speaker 10: sex assault. Her, secondly he's looking for women who are quite,
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  Speaker 10: short who are petite women he can easily handle, easily you,
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  Speaker 10: know kidnap and transport from one area to. Another and
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  Speaker 10: then he actually probably has many other aspects of his
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  Speaker 10: victim profile that are going to come out during the
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  Speaker 10: course of this, investigation especially as it pertains to his online.
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  Speaker 10: Searches maybe under h kids, twinks who was one of
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  Speaker 10: the THINGS i?
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  Speaker 1: Heard you, know young, Height, well what was the last
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  Speaker 1: thing you said. Twinks you need to tell everybody what that. Means.
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  Speaker 10: OKAY a twink is a young man who looks very,
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  Speaker 10: feminine usually, underweight very, small and the old fashioned work
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  Speaker 10: for them as. Twinks so that was one of his
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  Speaker 10: victim profiles that he was looking for with these kinds
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  Speaker 10: of young.
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  Speaker 2: Men, hey, guys this includes, You Kristin, Thorne Toby, Wilson Todd,
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  Speaker 2: Shipley Joe Scott, Morgan Deputy Commissioner, Carter Doctor Bethany, genre
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  Speaker 2: the lawyer for the family Of Shannon. Gilbert she may
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  Speaker 2: not be connected To, hureman we don't know that, yet
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  Speaker 2: but it's because of her that all of these bodies were.
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  Speaker 1: Found she's.
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  Speaker 2: Dead she was killed there On Long, island AND i
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  Speaker 2: believe it hadn't been for her body being, discovered we
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  Speaker 2: may never have found the other. Bodies that, said everybody
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  Speaker 2: jump in whenever you have a. Thought but you hear
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany marshall correctly describing the fact of These google
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  Speaker 2: searches we have just learned.
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  Speaker 1: About the, police of course knew about it with.
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  Speaker 2: Me Todd, shipley cybercrime, expert author of Investigating internet. Crimes
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  Speaker 2: you can find him at Dark intaeil dot. Info, todd
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  Speaker 2: just follow, up please with what Doctor bethany just said
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  Speaker 2: about this guy's Perverted google.
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  Speaker 1: Searches i'm sure you saying them, right.
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  Speaker 5: SURE i think what's important is the fact that that
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  Speaker 5: was available once they identified the suspect and they were
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  Speaker 5: able to go To google and subpoena them because they
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  Speaker 5: did over three hundred subpoenas early. On so there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of information that we still don't know about. Yet
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  Speaker 5: but once they started looking at this, guy was pretty
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  Speaker 5: evident that he was the, one because the searches were
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  Speaker 5: evident looking for information about the. Case he was trying
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  Speaker 5: to find out what the law enforcement agencies knew about
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  Speaker 5: him and what they were divulging online and how much
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  Speaker 5: information was, there and he was doing you, know his
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  Speaker 5: dating and all the other things that go along with
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  Speaker 5: what was. Happening so it was pretty, apparent you, know
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  Speaker 5: once they started looking at his searches that this was
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  Speaker 5: a person of interest for. Them and it's pretty telling
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  Speaker 5: that there's that much information about us when we started
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  Speaker 5: thinking about you, know evidence online and what we.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know, what, yes perfectly put but IF i
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  Speaker 2: were putting this to a, Jury i'd say it's something
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  Speaker 2: more like blonde girl crying being, Raped black slave girl
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  Speaker 2: being Raped america's five.
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  Speaker 1: Most notorial old.
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  Speaker 2: Cases why Hasn't Long island serial killer been? Caught why
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  Speaker 2: could law enforcement not trace calls made By Long island serial?
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  Speaker 2: KILLER i, mean who would know to ask that particular
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  Speaker 2: question except for.
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  Speaker 1: The Long island serial killer.
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  Speaker 2: EXACTLY i mean WHEN i would think about The Long
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  Speaker 2: island serial, KILLER i would have so many, thoughts so many.
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  Speaker 2: Questions BUT i didn't know at the time because people
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  Speaker 2: Like Deputy Commissioner Anthony carter kept it so secret as
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  Speaker 2: he should. HAVE i didn't know about the use of burner.
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  Speaker 2: Phones well somebody. Did this guy was looking up why
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  Speaker 2: can't they trace his burner?
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  Speaker 1: Phones?
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  Speaker 5: NO i mean that's specifically what they ended up doing
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  Speaker 5: is if you look at how they started pieces, together
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  Speaker 5: which was brilliant by the agents that were involved and.
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  Speaker 5: Officers they started to find those pieces and they started
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  Speaker 5: to relate, to you, know proving the negative who was
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  Speaker 5: around those burner phones when they had the geolocations that
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  Speaker 5: they had from ten years, ago and so the fact
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  Speaker 5: they went back and looked at all that evidence and
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  Speaker 5: started to prove that the target was close, by you
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  Speaker 5: know those same phone calls was a brilliant move to
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  Speaker 5: prove that he did, it and then they were able
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  Speaker 5: to go back after you, know his phones himself and
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  Speaker 5: starting to look at what's. There now what's going to
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  Speaker 5: be interesting too is the digital evidents that they find
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  Speaker 5: in the search of his. HOUSE i can't wait to
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  Speaker 5: see what they found in his computer because that's going
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  Speaker 5: to be telling.
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  Speaker 2: Too other, searches AND i want to go To John,
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  Speaker 2: ray the family lawyer for Victim Shannon. GILBERT i know
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  Speaker 2: That shannon's family has been, tortured especially when they say
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  Speaker 2: this guy's, searches which say things like blonde haired, girl,
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  Speaker 2: young depressed teen, girl oiled, bodies nude slave. GIRLS i
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  Speaker 2: have to leave out some of this because EVEN i
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't say it blank shot and, crying porn, girl, hogtide, torture,
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  Speaker 2: porn skinny, redhead tied up, porn, short fat, girl tied up,
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  Speaker 2: porn tied up and, raped porn as Doctor bethany poor
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  Speaker 2: in it, Out asian, twink tied, up, porn tied, slave force.
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  Speaker 1: Fed, Okay i'm not gonna finish that.
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  Speaker 2: ONE i, mean teen girl begging for, rape, porn pretty
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  Speaker 2: girl with bruised face.
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  Speaker 1: Porn my mouth feels. FILTHY i need to go wash
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  Speaker 1: it out with. Soap this was what is on His google.
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  Speaker 1: Searches John.
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  Speaker 2: Ray Now shannon's family has to read this and only
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  Speaker 2: imagine What shannon may have or the other victims put up,
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  Speaker 2: with what they end or what they lived or before they.
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  Speaker 1: DIED i want to.
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  Speaker 11: VOMIT i can play everybody DOES i think this, monster
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  Speaker 11: this giant monster WHO i characterize As Tyrannosaurus, rex his
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  Speaker 11: image is now frozen in the minds of The gilbert.
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  Speaker 11: Family AND i also Represent Jessica taylor's family and the
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  Speaker 11: Same they have the same.
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  Speaker 2: Reaction twenty year Old Jessica taylor also found there along the.
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  Speaker 11: Beach go, Ahead, Yeah and these families haven't this image
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  Speaker 11: now that's frozen in their mind that he is a.
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  Speaker 11: Killer there's no way to be sure that he had
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  Speaker 11: anything to do With Shannon gilbert at this point where
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: we're looking hard at. That but as we, speak but you,
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  Speaker 11: know just the image itself of what, happened and when
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  Speaker 11: you take what we do know of what happened To
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  Speaker 11: shannon that the, night that early morning that she, disappeared
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  Speaker 11: we know that she was under a threat from somebody like,
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  Speaker 11: him either he himself or somebody like, him and there
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  Speaker 11: is probably more than one of. Them but we're still
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  Speaker 11: very optimistic now and delighted That Ray tiern needed a
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: district attorney And Rodney, harrison the police, commissioner finally may
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: put together the agencies that weren't working together so that
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: this can be. Done so we're looking. Forward we think
• 20:28
  Speaker 11: that it's a really good chance That Tarannosaurus rex killed
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: the others as, well because he was a hunter and.
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: Hunters he was a proficient. Hunter they have tools and
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: they take apart their, animals so he's certainly capable of
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: having dismembered these others that are, there, so of, course
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: and you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Know another, Issue Kristin thorn joining, me investigative reporter of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: THE abc star Of hulu's true crime, Show Missing kristin
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: just because he ran out of burrow at, Bags, okay
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that does not mean he's not connected to all the other.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Bodies And i'm telling, You, kristin there are more. Victims
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: there are more, victims.
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: You, Know.
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: NANCY i think what concerns me and what has kept
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: me up at night the last few days since this
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: happened is not, necessarily of, course the remains that are
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: still left to the six other remains there Along Ocean
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: parkway On Long, Island but it's the women we haven't
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: heard about, yet, Right, so in some of the Cases
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: i've covered in my, SHOW i had some, concerns AND
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: i do hope that they will be using some of
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: THE dna evidence that they have to look at some
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: of these other women who have disappeared in The Tri state,
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: area WHO i believe in their family believes were victims of,
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: violence one in, particular who was worked in the same
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: line of work as the other. Women and so that's
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: what concerns. Me who is out there the women or anybody,
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: else because we haven't yet identified his, profile right we
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: know about The Gilg, war but we don't know who
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: else he may have been interested in killing or where
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: his interest to quote unquote. Lie CAN i make a
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: comment about, That, yeah jump.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: In BUT i need to go To Anthony carter about
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: what they're doing right, Now, bethany hold on just a,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Moment Deputy Commissioner, CARTER i pray To god In heaven
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that this new task, force And i'm sure you're not
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: going to tell me is comparing HIS dna to every
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: OTHER dna that's been found in let's just say The
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Tri state, area because once these bodies were, discovered you,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: know he found another dumping, ground all, right comparing HIS,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: dna looking at who else he's been calling.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: On his, many, many many burner phones.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: And figuring out where he was seen in That chevy,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: avalanche WHICH i want to ask, You Deputy. COMMISSIONER i
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: happen to know that the avalanche discontinued manufacture in twenty.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Thirteen yet here's an avalanche part outside his, PLACE i
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: believe a relative's. Place an avalanche was seen at one
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: of the victims'. Homes let me THINK i believe it
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Was Amber.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Costello long story.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: SHORT i can go on and on and on About,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: wow here's the avalanche part outside his, home a few
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: miles away from where the bodies are, found and a
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: witness place is an avalanche at one of the victims'.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Homes how come it took so? Long but that is
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: something for me to chew apart on another. Day JUST
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: i want to know that HIS dna is being compared
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: to OTHER, dna especially in That Tri state.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: Area, no and that's a great that's a great. Question
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: and the one thing that maybe some some out there
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: may think that you, know the arrest was, Made we
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: arrested this subject that the task force, has you, know
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: concluded their investigation and is going to go ahead and
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: just look At. Rex the, investigation the task force is
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: going to remain intact and they are going to continue
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: gathering evidence in both With rex and the Go Go
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: beach investigation is far from.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Over And, Okay i'm going to take that as a.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yes even though you're not saying, Yes i'm taking it
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: as a.
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: Yes you say to examine every piece of. Evidence that's, right,
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: though absolutely.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Speaking of every piece of, evidence let's take a look at.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It we can talk about them that all the women,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: work many of them contacted On. Craigslist they were sex.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Workers they were found dead in the same, way physical.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Similarities all these four put in burl at bags disposed
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: of on a lonely stretch of beach about twenty plus
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: minutes away from his home At Massapaker. Park but what
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: about the, evidence the heart. Evidence take a listen to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: our cut three g are friends AT abc.
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: Seven prosecutors say the smoking gun was a piece to
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: crust police dug Through huerman's trash MATCHING dna from a
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: partially eaten slice to previously unidentified hairs found on three
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: of The gilgo. Victims today they Booked heureman on murder,
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: chargers accused in the deaths Of Melissa Barthelemy Megan waterman
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: And Amber Lynn, costello and he's a prime suspect in
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: the death of a fourth, MARINE Brainerd.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Barnes, okay let's talk about the HARD dna evidence evidence
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: from a. Hair one of those hairs was found at
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the bottom of one of the burlat bags that one
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: of the victims were discarded.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: In also apparently correct me If i'm, wrong jump on
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: at Kirsten.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Thorn three victims had the defendant's wife's hair on, them
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: obviously a transfer from her to him and from him
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: onto the. Victim so that's at least four p OF
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: dna that we know. Of then one of the victims
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: to tie up with a leather, belt hopefully MAYBE dna
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: TOUCH dna was taken off of. That AM i missing ANY?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Dna Kristin, no that sounds, okay that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: Is absolutely, Correct BUT i would love to talk about
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: the wife's.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Hair, sure Because i've got a professor of forensics with
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: me and a for forensic consultant specializing IN dna waiting
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: to jump on this because this this is going to
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: get him in addition to all of the circumstantial. Evidence tell, Me,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: kristin here's.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Here's my, question AND i would love to hear from,
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: You nancy and from your experts to. Me finding the
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: wife's hair on one victim would have been interesting to
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: find it on. Three i'm trying to, actually you, know
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: when you try to, think how does this? Happen how
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: does the wife's hair end up on each? Time and,
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: AGAIN i am not implying anything about. Her i'm trying
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: to actually go through how this. Happened does anybody have
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: any thoughts on?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: THAT i got a, thought But i'll bring in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: experts a transfer just Like i'm. Okay just a few minutes,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: ago right before we went to, air my co Worker,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: sydney handed me a big stack of papers to go
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: through about three minutes before we, started and she leaned
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: over me with her long blind hair AND i. TURNED
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: i guarantee you some piece of hair or some something
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: brushed up against my jacket and it's.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: There.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Okay you know who loves talking about This Joe Scott,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: morgan he loves what's Your you have some quote you
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: always start.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: With, Why, Okay i'll let you tell.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: It Joe Scott morgan with, Me Professor, Frensis Jacksonville State,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: university And i've got to tell You i've been to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: their crim pro building and.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Facilities that's an incredible.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Program Joe, scott author Of Blood Beneath My feet and
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: host of a hit Series Body, bags With Joe Scott.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Morgan go, Ahead no action doesn't leave the?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Trays, well, la, la what's the rest of?
• 28:10
  Speaker 12: That the cards, principle every contact leaves a, trace and
• 28:14
  Speaker 12: it is the cornerstone that we work from in, forensics
• 28:18
  Speaker 12: and it's that axiom is over one hundred years old
• 28:22
  Speaker 12: and it still.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Applies tell, It Joe, scott preach. It preach, it, father
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: because this tie.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Is going down because of THIS. Dna and WHEN i
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: think of.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: These computer searches at, him acting out those, horrible, horrible
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: evil computer, searches all of these ladies to hell with. Him,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: NOW i got to figure out a way to prove.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It hit.
• 28:45
  Speaker 12: It let me give you a hellscape, here AND i
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: think that it exists in that. House and this is
• 28:49
  Speaker 12: my supposition. Here you, know we were speaking just a
• 28:55
  Speaker 12: moment ago about the transfer of the wife's. Hair you
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: know you Mentioned sydney in the, studio but what space
• 29:01
  Speaker 12: do you guys, Share probably on a daily basis when
• 29:04
  Speaker 12: you're laying down, sound it's in that, studio, Okay so
• 29:08
  Speaker 12: within that environment you kind of coexist in that. ENVIRONMENT
• 29:14
  Speaker 12: i am very, Curious, nancy relative to the, accused where
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: any of these victims brought back to this.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Home that's such a good, Idea Joe, scott because Remember Joe,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: scott many of these and jump In Anthony, Carter Deputy,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: commissioner And Kristen thorne because you may know better Than
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Joe scott AND i many of these murders occurred while
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: his wife was, gone and she has very distinct.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Hair she Is, icelandic so HER dna is going to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: be very.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Identifiable and this is MITOCHONDRIAL, dna which comes from your mother.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Only so anybody jump in with a thought In, BETHANY i,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Promise i'm circling.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Back this Is.
• 29:54
  Speaker 13: Toby first of, all the, HAIR i was a friend Of.
• 29:59
  Speaker 13: Charac i'm there for a short. Time, also the average
• 30:02
  Speaker 13: person that has hair loses about one hundred hairs at
• 30:05
  Speaker 13: a day, randomly so the hair connection on just the
• 30:09
  Speaker 13: one victim would be, coincident could be yelled called. Coincidence
• 30:15
  Speaker 13: on three, victims it becomes more of a. Pattern but
• 30:17
  Speaker 13: the locations of the hair is because of. That if
• 30:20
  Speaker 13: she rode in the, avalanche if it was on his,
• 30:25
  Speaker 13: clothing if he took any of the victims, home all
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: those are reasonable explanations for where the hair is that
• 30:33
  Speaker 13: THE dna was done on came from because of the
• 30:36
  Speaker 13: fact that we lose hair so, easily so that, connection you,
• 30:41
  Speaker 13: know is more open to. Interpretation where you come, from
• 30:47
  Speaker 13: it's very probable because he transported, them or may have
• 30:50
  Speaker 13: transported them in the, avalanche that the hairs were on
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: him or in that vehicle and that's where the transfer.
• 30:57
  Speaker 13: Occurred or if the be you, know Burlied baggs came
• 31:01
  Speaker 13: from his, home they could have been transferred. There but
• 31:03
  Speaker 13: hair transfers are a common, thing and you, know it
• 31:08
  Speaker 13: makes it harder to interpret what's going on because of
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: how common it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Is BUT i agree with you you're Hearing Toby wolson forends
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that consultant specializing IN dna zerology bloodstain at no slow
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: forensic Dot. Com, well he's, right of, Course Joe Scott.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Morgan but three, hairs As Kristin thorn pointed, out each
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: one on a different. VICTIM i want to explore your
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: theory that these victims may have been taken to his.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: HOME i, mean when you've got three hairs on three different,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: victims the only thing the defense can do now is
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: an aj defense it was.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: PLANTED i, mean let me hear your, theory Jo.
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: Scott, well this is one thing That i'm very encouraged
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: by and that these folks are, doing is THAT i
• 31:57
  Speaker 12: saw these images on the news of the, police the
• 32:01
  Speaker 12: investigators going in and out of that home And. NANCY
• 32:04
  Speaker 12: i hope they retain this place and take it down
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: to the damn studs that everything that they can harvest
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: out of that environment from an evidentary standpoint is going
• 32:15
  Speaker 12: to be. Acquired here's one more, thing And i'll be.
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: QUIET i don't.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Want you to be. QUIET i love everything you're.
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: Saying it's something that really sent a chill up up my.
• 32:23
  Speaker 12: Spine and maybe it's maybe it's a wild goose, chase
• 32:26
  Speaker 12: but this one, VICTIM i was looking at this charging
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: document that's mentioned the Miss, Marine Brainerd. Barnes and one
• 32:35
  Speaker 12: thing that kind of sent a chill up my spine
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: was that This burner phone that the accused, had or
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: that he is alleged to have, had had contacts With
• 32:45
  Speaker 12: marine's phone sixteen Times nancy over a period of time
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: From july to sixth Or july the. Ninth, okay they
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: have her phone finally dropping off the face for a,
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: while and there's like a couple of days lag. There
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: but then here's the chilling. Part he apparently the perpetrator
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: opened her phone up again and began to check her.
• 33:13
  Speaker 12: Messages let me ask you, Something, nancy would you just
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: blindly give without any kind of fighting? Back would you
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: give somebody the code to your cell phone to check your?
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: MESSAGES i, MEAN i KNOW i. WOULDN'T i don't know
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: about the other folks on the. Panel but how did
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: he get that information from her in order to get
• 33:36
  Speaker 12: in to her voicemail to check? It if that is?
• 33:39
  Speaker 12: True what they're a, legend and that to me is.
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: Chilling that to me shows that he may have been
• 33:46
  Speaker 12: in control of that person in. Particular about the rest of,
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: THEM i have no.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Idea, well All i've got to do is look at
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: His google search As Joe scott and, figure AND i
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: can tell, YOU i mean he looks up a hog
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: time raping woman and obviously he is fixated on. TORTURE i,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Mean Dr Bethy, marshall you don't say that kind Of
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: google search every. Day And i've looked at plenty of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: people's computers in their.
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: Searches, no absolutely. Not and to frame our, discussion if
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: you think of this guy as a combination of an
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: obsessive sex addict who thrives off power and inflicting pain
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: in order to enhance his sexual, arousal his victim profile
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: is going to keep, changing and he goes to more
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: and more extreme types of pornography and more different types
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: of victims in order to enhance his sexual. Arousal so
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: maybe he starts with someone with it in his own,
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: race an age. Mate then he goes to a younger,
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: person than a smaller, person than a bigger, person than a,
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: man than a, woman than a. Child and SO i
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: think that the complication and why the investigation is going
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: to have to folk with so much on the data
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: and the. Science if this guy is going to find
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: anything in order to increase his sexual, arousal and not
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: just finding different, victims but stalking, them toying with, them
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: perhaps taking them back to his. House this is not
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: a one and done kind of guy where maybe someone
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: looks at, pornography, masturbates closes the. Computer this is a
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: guy who's going to get as much sexual satisfaction out
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: of any one victim as. Possible so it's multiple assaults
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: against one victim over an extended period of.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Time which goes back To Joe Scott morgan's theory that
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: some of the victims may have been taken to the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: home because an extended period of, time assault probably would
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: not take place in a vehicle A Chevy. Avalanche Time
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: stories With Nancy. GRACE i know the condition in which
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: these bodies were, found but what do we know about
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Human Deputy. COMMISSIONER i don't know if you can comment on,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: this but can you describe how HIS.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Dna was obtained off a pizza crust during?
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: Surveillance you, know he was being observed and there was
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: an opportunity where he had discarded A i guess like
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: a small personal pizza box into a garbage in the,
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: city and our undercovers were able to retrieve that box
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: and just to go back on a point to you,
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: know whether you know his home may have been involved
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: in the location of of the. Homicides the one thing
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: that we can say is that it's not a coincidence
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: that his wife and family were away in three of the.
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: Murders and we're taking you, know LIKE i, said active.
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: Investigation we're at the. HOME i think somebody had mentioned
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: on the call here that we're taking the. House we
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: should take the, help AND i think that is the
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: plan to get every piece of evidence that we can
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: possibly get while we're inside of that home with.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Me Deputy Commissioner Anthony carter From Suffolk County, POLICE i
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: had to tell you, Something Deputy. Commissioner i'm the first
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: one to scream when police screw up an investigation because
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: it hurts me as a former prosecutor and a crime victim.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Myself BUT i am so impressed with your surveillance of,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: hereman your identification of. HIM i know it's been a
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: long time, coming but this is a fresh homicide task.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Force this is a whole new look because this case
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: was ignored by prior. Administrations you guys come in there
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: like a barn on. Fire you find this. Guy you surveil.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Him you really look at the. Evidence then you catch
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: him discarding a pizza crust and get HIS dna which
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: matches up to OTHER. Dna you get his WIFE'S. Dna
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: do we have any? Idea can you comment on how
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you did?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: That Deputy?
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: Commissioner so same you, know same methodology in trying to
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: attain abandon. Examples you, know very similar fashion where we
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: were able to obtain recycled cans from their, look you,
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: know from where they.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Live so that's how you got the WIFE'S. Dna that's.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Correct, wow there's so MUCH i hardly know which way to.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Go but let me understand, Something Kristin, thorne anybody on
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the panelan is the answer to? This the Way i'm
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: reading the affidavit and other, information was this idiot actually
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: traveling with A burner phone and his own private mobile
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: phone together Like. Coyburger you know you can see him
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: traveling away from the crime.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Scene did that? Happen does anybody?
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: Know, well we know that they certainly there. Are they
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: certainly tracked the burner phones relationship and location Near Massapequa
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: park as well as His midtown, office and they called
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: that the box that was. There the points that they
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: used to, triangulate although in that word it would be three,
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: sides but the box would be four to really you,
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: know pinpoint that his, locations where he, was where he,
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: lives where he, worked we're also coordinating with the hits
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: from these burner.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Phones, okay break that down, too regular people.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Talk this is Todd SO i think what significance is
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: what you're, saying and what they alleged in the court
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  Speaker 5: documents is that they found no instance where the suspect
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  Speaker 5: was in a separate location from the other cell phones
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  Speaker 5: when the communications occurred when he was talking to them
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  Speaker 5: from the burner, phones and so at that significant that
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  Speaker 5: they tied them together from those sotellar, records that his
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  Speaker 5: phone was there and the burner phone was. There in
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  Speaker 5: instances outside of the, calls his, phone you, know was not.
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  Speaker 5: There so it's pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Significant, okay that is entirely significant To Anthony, CARTER Wy police.
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  Speaker 1: Commissioner what do you make of that?
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  Speaker 9: Theory, so you, KNOW i think when we talk about
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  Speaker 9: some of the locations that we talked, about you, know
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  Speaker 9: the burner phones versus his phone and trying to tie
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  Speaker 9: that all, IN i think it was you, know it
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  Speaker 9: was challenging because we, look we're looking at an area
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  Speaker 9: of over fifteen hundred homes that also included a portion
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  Speaker 9: of The Massapeaker, preserve and that also then opens up
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  Speaker 9: which are hitting those cell towers to people that may
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  Speaker 9: or may not even live in Massi, pequa may or
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  Speaker 9: may not even live In Nasa. County SO i mean
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  Speaker 9: that is one of the things behind the exhaustive effort
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  Speaker 9: committed by the members and the Task force to try
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  Speaker 9: to drill down and get the right information and the
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  Speaker 9: right evidence to move us forward in the.
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  Speaker 2: Case Christen thorn W Abc channel, seven what can you
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  Speaker 2: tell me about recent revelations of a storage unit a.
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  Speaker 8: Search so we know that there's an active investigation right
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  Speaker 8: now around a storage unit On Long, island and for
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  Speaker 8: all we know and we believe that it is connected
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  Speaker 8: to this. Investigation you, KNOW i think what they're going
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  Speaker 8: to be looking. For AND i also noticed in the
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  Speaker 8: indictment and we talk about his house and how they
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  Speaker 8: do need to and are going to tear apart that,
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  Speaker 8: house there were items missing from the, victims so, jewelry
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  Speaker 8: some pieces of. Clothing those are things that would probably
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  Speaker 8: be familiar to the family that the family told them
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  Speaker 8: she used to always wear this, necklace this. Bracelet that's
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: very common we, find and so those things were, missing
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  Speaker 8: and so those are the things that they're going to
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  Speaker 8: be looking for in the house and in this potential storage.
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  Speaker 2: Unit this is rapidly, Developing but for right, now what
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  Speaker 2: do we?
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  Speaker 3: Know breaking today in The Long island serial killer, case
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  Speaker 3: and arrest has been made in the death Of Tanya
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  Speaker 3: jackson and her two year old, Daughter Tatiana. Dikes that
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  Speaker 3: case had been connected to human but he had not
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  Speaker 3: been charged for. Years she was simply known As peaches
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  Speaker 3: because of a distinctive tattoo on her. Body Andrew, dikes sixty,
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  Speaker 3: six has now appeared before A florida judge in connection
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  Speaker 3: with The. Cays dikes is believed to be the father Of.
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  Speaker 3: Tatiyana authorities are petitioning for his extradition To New.
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  Speaker 2: York the staggering number of bodies found is going to
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  Speaker 2: overwhelm any. Jarar but it's the, truth and you cannot
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  Speaker 2: hide the truth from a.
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  Speaker 1: Jury we wait as justice. Unfolds goodbye, friend