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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Are the Road to the Games Dead? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:34
  What is going on, everybody?
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  It is lunchtime.
• 0:37
  Lunch with the Clydesdale.
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  We are here again this week.
• 0:42
  Kicking it off strong.
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  Dart throw time.
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  I got a feeling.
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  Oh, my gosh.
• 0:52
  It must have been gas.
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  Because I didn't even come
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  close to the dartboard.
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  Dang, man.
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  I'm going to have to patch some holes.
• 1:02
  I keep this stuff up.
• 1:05
  I've got to hit that
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  bullseye at least one time.
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  One time.
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  I know I'm going to throw a second one.
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  I just, I can't end like that.
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  All right.
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  One more time.
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  Yeah.
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  I got to give up today.
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  There we go.
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  All right.
• 1:24
  What's going up?
• 1:25
  What's going on?
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  Lito, Holly.
• 1:29
  Good to see you guys in the chat.
• 1:31
  Um,
• 1:33
  Corey Leonard's in the chat.
• 1:39
  Let me start with this.
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  So I come into work this
• 1:41
  morning and I am scheduled
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  for an eight hour meeting,
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  an eight hour meeting.
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  And here, what it is,
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  is I work in reemployment
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  services where people are
• 1:58
  trying to find a new job.
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  We try to help them with that,
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  with interviewing skills,
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  with things like that.
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  I work on the systems that
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  help them kind of track all
• 2:09
  of that stuff.
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  Our unemployment system,
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  also our unemployment
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  office works with us.
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  People get unemployed,
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  they're looking to get re-employed.
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  Unemployment is getting a
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  whole new system.
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  They have scheduled three
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  eight-hour meetings today, tomorrow,
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  and Wednesday to go over
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  every piece of
• 2:31
  correspondence that's
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  getting sent out of their
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  new system for us to then
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  make sure that they capture
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  anything we need to be,
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  that needs to be said to
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  these people who have been
• 2:43
  laid off from their job and
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  are collecting unemployment
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  to help them find us to get reemployed.
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  So basically what I do is,
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  I have the meeting in an
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  earbud on in one ear and I
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  listen and I listen.
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  And if anything comes up from my area,
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  that's when I have to speak up.
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  But the rest of the time,
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  which so far four hours
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  into this first eight hour meeting, uh,
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  has been zero zip zilch.
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  I already want to drive a
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  nail through my forehead.
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  I, uh,
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  I am.
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  So when we do systems enhancements, we,
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  we do like a series of two
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  hour meetings so that
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  people can actually pay
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  attention and be alert when
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  stuff comes up.
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  Um, this eight hour meeting stuff,
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  things are going to get
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  missed because nobody can
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  pay attention when the
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  attention isn't on them for eight hours.
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  I mean, literally this morning,
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  I have them in my right ear
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  and Siobhan in my left ear.
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  Because I just couldn't take it anymore.
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  So that's my day.
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  And I've got two more days
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  of that coming up.
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  but I think I'm going to
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  take a little bit of me
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  time either at the end of
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  this week or to go into
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  next week around the fourth
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  of July holiday,
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  just to give myself some
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  extra time to get a few
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  things done around the house.
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  Um,
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  I haven't taken any time off this year.
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  Usually I'm like a different
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  semifinal event.
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  So I take a bunch of time off.
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  I haven't taken anything off this year.
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  Um, so,
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  So, yeah.
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  Jody says, that's all of us.
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  One ear here, one ear there.
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  Yeah.
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  Generally, like I just play.
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  Generally,
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  I don't have work talking to me
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  during the day.
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  I'm doing work while I have
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  other stuff in my ear,
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  but I don't have somebody
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  like a meeting going on.
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  Usually when a meeting goes on,
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  I shut off the other stuff
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  and I pay attention in the meeting.
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  But most of my meetings are
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  thirty minutes or less.
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  Eight hours is ridiculous.
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  Ridiculous.
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  So I'm going to go down
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  through a series of things.
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  Dave already put out his weekend review.
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  It was live from Albany.
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  He was on the floor of the arena.
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  I think it's going to be a
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  really cool place to have
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  the CrossFit Games.
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  but nothing earth shattering
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  came out of his weekend review.
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  Uh,
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  he talked about Tia coming back and how
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  happy he was for that.
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  Um,
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  and he talked about the crossover
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  double unders.
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  I thought the one
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  interesting question from that was that,
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  uh,
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  the barbell spin asked if they were
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  going to have to use the
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  official rope of the CrossFit games.
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  And Dave was not able to
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  answer that at this time, as he said,
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  it was to be determined still.
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  Um,
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  So that is interesting there.
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  I'm still kind of amazed
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  that they're in the games
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  because I know I've heard
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  Dave say he didn't like
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  them when Boz put them in a
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  few years ago.
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  So it's going to be
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  interesting to see how
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  they're going to be used.
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  And Dave did kind of go into that.
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  Just because they know
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  they're coming doesn't mean
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  they know how they're going to be used.
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  So I don't know how you make
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  that a little bit different.
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  Anyway, there's that.
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  Has to be a sponsor obligation,
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  in my opinion.
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  Sure,
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  the jump rope has to be a sponsor
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  obligation,
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  but the type of jump roping
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  does not have to be a sponsor obligation,
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  in my guess.
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  Um, I, again,
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  I used to be really close
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  with Dave Newman.
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  He was a sponsor of the show
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  for a couple years early on in our, um,
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  and,
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  and we used to have him on every
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  quarter and he said that he
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  would have conversations
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  with Dave and people at CrossFit,
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  but he didn't have the
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  control to say what was going to be done.
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  Um, so I think that's,
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  that's pretty interesting.
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  um alito said that specific
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  jump rope that was made for
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  tricks triple unders
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  crossovers okay I did not
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  know that um so there we go
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  and denise is wondering if
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  they will have them all at
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  the masters games
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  Yeah, and again,
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  Masters Games probably is
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  going to have a completely
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  different set of sponsors.
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  Well, not completely different,
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  but a good chunk of different sponsors.
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  So it could be something
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  different entirely with
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  different sponsor obligations.
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  Last night,
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  we kind of kicked off the show
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  talking about the road to the games.
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  And the more and more I think about it,
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  I think the road to the
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  games are dead unless
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  there's a big change to next season with,
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  with the road to the games.
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  And if they continue the road to the games,
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  I think, I think they're dead.
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  Yeah.
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  the people that are doing
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  them are not getting the
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  stories we need to hype us
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  up for the games,
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  and that is what the road
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  to the games were in the past.
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  It was going in, learning about an athlete,
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  and getting you excited to
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  then root for that athlete
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  As they get to the CrossFit Games.
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  And how would that translate?
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  And how would that affect
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  their performance?
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  How would they do at the Games?
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  That created excitement that
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  got us at the Games.
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  In a year, we needed that more than ever.
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  It came too late.
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  And the people that are doing them are not,
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  as Jody put,
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  not getting the fans invested.
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  There's just not enough
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  content of storytelling in
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  this latest version of Road
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  to the Games to get me
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  invested in anything.
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  They should leave Road to
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  the Games and instead hype
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  the tier and WFP docs instead.
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  yeah I think I think what I
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  I have not watched a lot of
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  the tier ones I've watched
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  every single one of the wfp
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  ones and I've watched all
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  of the hiller ones I think
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  killer's done a nice job
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  with storytelling I think
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  wfp is hit or miss on the storytelling um
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  I did not like the last WFP at all either,
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  where they did Pat Felner
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  and Daniel Brandon at tour stop one.
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  I don't think I learned anything there.
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  There was no storytelling there.
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  And this last road to the
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  games with the two Lucys.
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  I said it last night.
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  I adore Lucy Campbell.
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  I think she is one of the
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  biggest stories in the space right now.
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  And to completely ignore
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  that story and just show
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  her working out and saying
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  that one time she was a swimmer.
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  She's a favorite to be a top
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  ten athlete after taking
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  two years off from a
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  serious career-threatening wrist injury.
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  And...
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  The fact that they did not
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  even touch on that to an
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  extent that told me that story,
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  they should be ashamed.
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  They should just be ashamed.
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  And I don't know much about
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  Lucy McGonigal.
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  Other than...
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  She's a young athlete in the
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  sport that I want to know more about,
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  and I didn't get to learn anything.
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  That was really, really bad.
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  Sorry.
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  That means less money they
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  have to spend and just
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  promote what's already
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  really good and out there.
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  Jody's actually more excited
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  about the games,
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  so she can meet all the
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  people she's met in the chat.
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  Yeah,
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  that's one way to get people excited.
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  Tears amazing.
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  They go all the way back to
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  them being kids and family
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  is also chipping in.
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  Abby Domitz was amazing.
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  Jeff too.
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  I know I've seen a couple.
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  I don't,
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  I'll have to go back and watch for sure.
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  And I will give them a review as well.
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  Train to Live says,
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  I wish the road to the games were longer.
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  The storylines are way too short.
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  I don't want them to be
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  longer if they're not going
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  to change the format.
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  If they change the format, then okay,
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  let's give them a little more time.
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  little more time to develop
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  the story but they're not
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  even starting the
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  development of the story
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  for me to get excited to
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  want it to be longer uh
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  denise scott how are your
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  allergies today denise the
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  my allergies are just up
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  and down right now one
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  minute I'm feeling pretty
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  good the next minute it
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  just comes over me like a
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  tidal wave uh I don't know
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  it's it's just been
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  It's been a rough couple of weeks.
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  I had a really good weekend
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  where rain washed away a lot of stuff.
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  I got a lot of yard work done.
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  I got a lot of things accomplished.
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  And then Sunday night just
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  got hit with it right after
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  the show last night,
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  went upstairs and got hit
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  with just a tidal wave of allergies.
• 13:30
  It's been awful.
• 13:33
  Um, so yeah,
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  I'll check out the tier stuff.
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  I'll give a couple of reviews on that.
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  Um, if you didn't hear last night,
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  my review of the Lucy's
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  road to the games is my
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  lowest grade so far this year.
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  Uh, and that is a D I give it a D, um,
• 13:51
  probably should have given it an F,
• 13:53
  but I gave it a D and again,
• 13:55
  that's the lowest grade
• 13:57
  I've given out this year.
• 14:01
  Um,
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  Last night,
• 14:04
  I also talked about MedFix and
• 14:06
  my confusion with MedFix.
• 14:08
  I've had Pete Shaw on trying
• 14:10
  to explain to me.
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  Hiller was in the chat last
• 14:13
  night trying to explain to
• 14:14
  me his thoughts and his views.
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  And I've really been,
• 14:20
  because I did research
• 14:21
  trying to interview Pete
• 14:23
  and trying to understand
• 14:24
  what they are trying to
• 14:25
  accomplish and where it's coming from,
• 14:29
  I've been really confused about it.
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  then leave it to my old
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  friend athena perez uh who
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  I love and adore to death
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  um she I read her post on
• 14:45
  metfix and all of a sudden
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  the clarity was there and I
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  did take a couple notes of
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  reading her thing and and I
• 14:53
  wanted to share kind of
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  where it's put me um
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  The way Athena put it was that early on,
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  CrossFit created this plan
• 15:07
  to get you back to metabolic health.
• 15:10
  And a lot of that had to do
• 15:11
  with body movement.
• 15:13
  But it also had a very
• 15:14
  simple fitness in a hundred words.
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  It starts with nutrition.
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  Eat nuts and seeds.
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  little fruit, no sugar, no starch,
• 15:25
  whatever, that whole bit.
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  I don't know it by off the top of my head,
• 15:28
  but I, but very simple.
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  And when I started CrossFit,
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  I weighed over five hundred pounds.
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  I lost two hundred and fifty pounds.
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  I lost that just by the
• 15:39
  simple fact of only eating
• 15:43
  when I was hungry and having, um,
• 15:50
  and only having healthy
• 15:52
  foods available to me.
• 15:54
  My thought was,
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  if I'm putting something in the body,
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  is that thing that I'm
• 15:58
  putting in there helping me
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  or hurting me?
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  And that's how I approached my nutrition.
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  That simply, and it worked.
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  The big red flag for me that
• 16:12
  came out of my Pete Shaw interview is,
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  I asked him,
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  I said to him,
• 16:19
  a lot of people don't
• 16:20
  understand what you're
• 16:21
  saying because you're using
• 16:23
  very scientific terms and
• 16:25
  you're doing things in a
• 16:26
  way that are not easy to understand.
• 16:30
  And his response was,
• 16:33
  they want to do it in a way
• 16:34
  to force people to go look
• 16:35
  into it more themselves.
• 16:40
  That is a red flag to me.
• 16:43
  You are trying to cure the
• 16:44
  world's most vexing problem,
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  the sixty percent obesity
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  rate in this country,
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  and I'm sure it's spreading worldwide.
• 16:53
  Why are you trying to make
• 16:55
  it complicated for people
• 16:56
  to take another step in?
• 16:59
  And the way Athena looked at it was,
• 17:01
  it's like the door is half open.
• 17:05
  And it's almost like it's a
• 17:07
  cool kids club.
• 17:08
  Can you come in or are you
• 17:10
  not allowed to come in?
• 17:14
  And I like that analogy of
• 17:16
  the whole thing is if
• 17:18
  you're making it so
• 17:19
  scientific that only cool
• 17:22
  kids can understand it and come in,
• 17:24
  then you're not fixing the problem.
• 17:28
  You're not putting it in a
• 17:29
  way that makes people
• 17:31
  understand and can actually
• 17:32
  put it into practice.
• 17:38
  I'm actually,
• 17:39
  I was embarrassed that I
• 17:41
  didn't see this for myself.
• 17:42
  As someone who started
• 17:43
  CrossFit at five hundred pounds,
• 17:45
  I was welcomed in with open arms.
• 17:49
  And I was loved on by the coaches,
• 17:52
  by the members of that gym,
• 17:55
  and I was helped to get
• 17:56
  through that process.
• 17:58
  And they made it simple.
• 18:01
  And the nutrition in CrossFit,
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  even though at the L-one,
• 18:04
  it's only a small piece,
• 18:06
  at the affiliate level,
• 18:07
  it's always there.
• 18:09
  It's always present and it's
• 18:11
  always there for you.
• 18:16
  And that's the piece that I
• 18:18
  actually mentioned to Pete
• 18:19
  Shaw in that interview.
• 18:23
  And he kind of tried to counter
• 18:26
  Counter that with it,
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  he's been in gyms where
• 18:28
  donuts are on the counter
• 18:29
  or gummy bears are on the counter.
• 18:32
  And I've never seen that in
• 18:33
  any gym that I've been a part of.
• 18:36
  And I've been in a gym that
• 18:37
  was just a bunch of average
• 18:39
  Joes with an average age of
• 18:41
  forty five to fifty.
• 18:43
  And I've also been in a gym
• 18:44
  with Christy Aramo
• 18:45
  O'Connell and her husband
• 18:47
  who are both freakishly fit
• 18:50
  and her mother who's freakishly fit.
• 18:53
  And that stuff was never on
• 18:54
  the counters at that gym either.
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  And they preached good nutrition habits.
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  So.
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  I'm embarrassed that I
• 19:05
  missed out on really diving
• 19:08
  into that aspect of it.
• 19:12
  And she also pointed out
• 19:13
  that the people selling
• 19:15
  this new nutrition are not
• 19:17
  people who came up through
• 19:20
  the CrossFit way,
• 19:22
  who never lifted a barbell,
• 19:24
  who never did those CrossFit workouts,
• 19:26
  and they're up at a
• 19:27
  whiteboard trying to
• 19:28
  explain to you the science of it all.
• 19:30
  And that is a red flag for her.
• 19:32
  And that makes a ton of sense to me.
• 19:36
  And then the overarching
• 19:37
  thing in her article,
• 19:39
  which was also in Hiller's stuff,
• 19:43
  was that there's nothing different.
• 19:46
  That in Greg's own words,
• 19:48
  nothing has changed in twenty years.
• 19:51
  And I think that where I was
• 19:54
  getting hung up is it does
• 19:55
  make sense that if you're
• 19:56
  going to go deeper into a
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  nutrition subject,
• 20:01
  it's a great extension to
• 20:02
  what already exists.
• 20:05
  But because they're trying
• 20:06
  to create their own affiliates,
• 20:07
  they're not trying to be an
• 20:09
  extension of something that
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  already exists.
• 20:11
  They are trying to compete
• 20:12
  with what already exists
• 20:14
  and doing it in a different
• 20:15
  way and won't admit that fact.
• 20:20
  That's the part that sends
• 20:22
  this down a bad path.
• 20:24
  By creating their own affiliate system,
• 20:27
  it's sending it in a
• 20:28
  direction of competition as
• 20:30
  opposed to a partnership.
• 20:35
  so I've known athena for
• 20:39
  five years now athena was a
• 20:43
  major part of my life for a
• 20:45
  good couple years
• 20:48
  We used to talk every Friday afternoon,
• 20:50
  catch up on things, brainstorm ideas.
• 20:54
  She is an amazing person.
• 20:56
  And I missed her article
• 20:58
  because I don't read the
• 21:00
  morning chalk up anymore.
• 21:01
  I have too much PTSD from
• 21:03
  being there and being a
• 21:05
  part of that group and not
• 21:06
  enjoying my time there.
• 21:08
  And then I found she has a
• 21:10
  website where she puts all
• 21:11
  of her writings there in
• 21:13
  addition to where they
• 21:14
  appear in other things.
• 21:15
  And so I will make sure that
• 21:18
  I am up to date on her
• 21:20
  writings on her website
• 21:23
  because it really did send
• 21:25
  one big piece of clarity to
• 21:28
  me over this whole thing.
• 21:33
  And it's true, and I truly believe this,
• 21:36
  and I said this to Pete Shaw,
• 21:38
  that nutrition is at the affiliate level.
• 21:41
  That is where I learned
• 21:41
  nutrition when I came into CrossFit.
• 21:44
  It was not at my L-one.
• 21:46
  I learned it from my coach.
• 21:49
  I learned it from my members.
• 21:51
  That's where I learned nutrition.
• 21:58
  I've missed all the comments,
• 22:00
  so I am going to...
• 22:06
  I'm trained to live.
• 22:06
  I like Carolyn's take on it,
• 22:08
  that it should just be a course.
• 22:12
  And CrossFit has added a
• 22:13
  nutrition course that's a
• 22:15
  one-day supplement to what
• 22:17
  already exists.
• 22:25
  Doug Reed,
• 22:25
  the CrossFit pyramid is the most
• 22:27
  profound model for thinking
• 22:28
  about fitness priorities and progression.
• 22:30
  It's simple and it makes sense.
• 22:41
  Alito,
• 22:41
  I don't think the nutrition side is
• 22:42
  present in any affiliate.
• 22:44
  A lot of gyms have literally
• 22:45
  got cafes that sell lots of baked goods,
• 22:48
  etc.
• 22:49
  That is not my experience.
• 22:51
  I have done drop-ins all over the country.
• 22:54
  My job used to have me
• 22:55
  travel and I've been doing
• 22:56
  CrossFit since two thousand eleven.
• 22:58
  I used to drop in everywhere
• 23:00
  that I traveled to for work.
• 23:02
  I have never been in a gym
• 23:04
  where baked goods were an option,
• 23:06
  where gummy bears were on the counter.
• 23:08
  Never, ever, never.
• 23:10
  I'm sorry that you've had a
• 23:11
  different experience
• 23:13
  because I've not had that
• 23:14
  experience at all.
• 23:23
  Doug Reed at Lido, our gym,
• 23:24
  does talk about the
• 23:25
  importance of nutrition.
• 23:27
  I choose to ignore it.
• 23:29
  And that is your prerogative.
• 23:30
  You look like Captain America,
• 23:31
  so you can choose that.
• 23:37
  Corey Leonard,
• 23:37
  I'm so glad my box is old school.
• 23:39
  We have nutrition seminars
• 23:40
  at least once a year.
• 23:42
  Still write the workout name
• 23:43
  scores on an actual
• 23:44
  whiteboard and believe in
• 23:46
  making people better.
• 23:49
  And Train to Live says, same.
• 23:54
  uh lito I think most do we
• 23:56
  try to do an eighty twenty
• 23:57
  approach because we're
• 23:58
  trying to be more realistic
• 24:05
  and then doug says that he
• 24:06
  ignores it so corey leonard
• 24:07
  can feel better about
• 24:08
  himself we're all trying to
• 24:10
  help corey out I'll try now
• 24:13
  that's the main goal of everything um
• 24:20
  But yeah,
• 24:21
  if you do not subscribe to
• 24:22
  Athena's email list,
• 24:24
  I highly recommend it.
• 24:26
  And if you did not read her
• 24:28
  article on what is MedFix, it is a great,
• 24:31
  great read.
• 24:32
  And I think it really
• 24:33
  simplifies everything that's going on.
• 24:37
  I've been to, like I said,
• 24:39
  I've been a member of two
• 24:40
  different affiliates here in Columbus.
• 24:42
  Both of them have put a very
• 24:43
  big emphasis on nutrition.
• 24:46
  And the first gym I belonged
• 24:48
  to even hired on a
• 24:51
  full-time nutrition coach.
• 24:53
  And you could meet with them
• 24:55
  free of charge with your
• 24:56
  membership to get a plan in
• 24:58
  place from them.
• 25:01
  so I think that there are
• 25:05
  affiliates out there doing
• 25:06
  it the right way and I'm so
• 25:08
  glad that those were the
• 25:09
  ones that I found and um
• 25:14
  and that got me on the
• 25:15
  right path and uh stuck on
• 25:21
  these nuts says eat nuts
• 25:23
  yep and seeds and seeds as well
• 25:30
  All right.
• 25:30
  My last big take for the day is.
• 25:40
  If you weren't with us Friday,
• 25:43
  Judy Reed says justice for
• 25:45
  Corey and Corey says respectfully, Judy,
• 25:48
  they can get bent.
• 25:49
  Yeah.
• 25:51
  Yeah.
• 25:54
  Yeah.
• 25:56
  uh so I'm assuming corey's
• 25:58
  not heard any new news over
• 26:00
  the weekend or he has
• 26:03
  blocked them permanently I
• 26:05
  don't know my last thing is
• 26:08
  last night um we were doing
• 26:11
  some factor fiction and we
• 26:13
  were picking like our top
• 26:14
  five for the games and um
• 26:19
  one of the factor fictions
• 26:20
  were that there are no less than eight
• 26:24
  men who have an opportunity
• 26:25
  to win the CrossFit games.
• 26:28
  And Carolyn and I each kind
• 26:29
  of picked our eight that,
• 26:32
  that could Carolyn thought
• 26:34
  eight was too many.
• 26:34
  She really wanted it seven or six.
• 26:37
  Um, I was in,
• 26:38
  I am in the belief that there
• 26:40
  are eight people that can
• 26:43
  win the CrossFit games in the chat was,
• 26:48
  uh,
• 26:50
  Kenneth Galap,
• 26:51
  who is the biggest Colton
• 26:52
  Mertens fan I know of,
• 26:54
  and he kept putting Colton in there,
• 26:56
  and I said,
• 26:57
  there's no way that Colton can
• 26:58
  win the CrossFit Games.
• 27:01
  So I want to clarify.
• 27:02
  I'm going to reframe it today.
• 27:06
  If Colton Mertens wins the CrossFit Games,
• 27:10
  it will be a greater feat
• 27:13
  than Rich and Matt's streak of wins.
• 27:19
  when I say that I say it
• 27:21
  with love I have I have
• 27:25
  known colton since well
• 27:29
  before he made his first
• 27:30
  games we were the first
• 27:32
  podcast he ever came on I
• 27:33
  have hung out with him at
• 27:34
  events I've hung out with
• 27:36
  him and ali together they
• 27:38
  are amazing people and he
• 27:40
  has overcome so many hurdles what
• 27:45
  My view of that man is that years ago,
• 27:49
  they said he couldn't make the games.
• 27:51
  He made the games.
• 27:52
  Years ago,
• 27:53
  they said he couldn't do well at
• 27:55
  the games.
• 27:56
  His highest finish at the
• 27:57
  games to this date has been eighteenth.
• 28:01
  Eighteenth.
• 28:03
  That is a big jump from
• 28:05
  eighteenth to winning.
• 28:10
  Because of his height and
• 28:12
  because of the tasks that
• 28:13
  will be given to him over a
• 28:16
  long weekend to overcome
• 28:18
  each one of those tasks,
• 28:20
  he has to exert extra energy to do so.
• 28:23
  And he has built his fitness
• 28:24
  up so much that he's able
• 28:27
  to do that many of the times.
• 28:32
  but it still takes extra
• 28:33
  energy in each one of those
• 28:35
  events to do so.
• 28:37
  At the CrossFit Games,
• 28:38
  because it's a longer event
• 28:40
  with nine or ten or eleven
• 28:44
  or fifteen events,
• 28:46
  that extra exertion of
• 28:48
  energy compounds greater at
• 28:51
  that event than it does at
• 28:53
  semifinal events or crash
• 28:57
  crucibles or NorCal Classics,
• 29:00
  all of those events.
• 29:03
  So if Colton would win the CrossFit Games,
• 29:06
  it would mean that he's
• 29:08
  exerting more effort at a
• 29:13
  higher rate and for a
• 29:14
  longer duration than every
• 29:16
  other athlete in the field.
• 29:20
  It's like winning the
• 29:21
  CrossFit Games with one arm
• 29:22
  tied behind your back.
• 29:26
  Do I think that he can get in the top ten?
• 29:29
  Do I think he can get in the top five?
• 29:31
  I do.
• 29:32
  I do think he could get in the top five.
• 29:35
  But I worry about him just
• 29:37
  like watching Christy
• 29:39
  Aramo-O'Connell top out at eighth place.
• 29:44
  At the CrossFit Games,
• 29:45
  she was a smaller athlete.
• 29:47
  For her to lift against the
• 29:49
  Tias and the Ariels and the Loras,
• 29:53
  she just could not compete
• 29:55
  in those lifting events.
• 29:56
  Every other fitness-related
• 29:58
  technical thing that she could do,
• 30:01
  she crushed.
• 30:02
  And she was right there with Tia.
• 30:05
  But those things where she couldn't,
• 30:08
  she just couldn't make up enough for.
• 30:11
  to make a difference,
• 30:12
  to get to the top five, the top three.
• 30:17
  When Kristen Holta podiumed,
• 30:19
  that was an amazing accomplishment.
• 30:22
  When these smaller athletes
• 30:24
  can do something to that
• 30:26
  and do something like that,
• 30:28
  it is such a major
• 30:29
  accomplishment because they
• 30:31
  are overcoming –
• 30:34
  just the size differential
• 30:36
  with these other athletes
• 30:37
  in addition to taking on
• 30:39
  the event itself and everybody else.
• 30:46
  So do I want Colton to win the games?
• 30:51
  I want Colton to win the games.
• 30:55
  I think that would be the
• 30:57
  greatest story we have ever
• 30:58
  seen on the men's side of
• 31:01
  the CrossFit Games.
• 31:05
  But know,
• 31:07
  know that for him to do that is
• 31:10
  such a tremendous feat.
• 31:13
  It will take a perfect
• 31:16
  alignment of the stars for
• 31:17
  that to happen.
• 31:24
  He is the coolest trash
• 31:26
  talker in the game.
• 31:28
  He is amazing at what he does.
• 31:32
  He is so smart.
• 31:34
  Like I've had it.
• 31:36
  And I, I talked about this last week,
• 31:37
  my lost interview with him
• 31:39
  with the morning chalk up
• 31:40
  and the way he analyzed why
• 31:42
  he got cut so early at the
• 31:44
  games that first year he
• 31:45
  made it as an individual
• 31:47
  was because his whole focus
• 31:49
  was about making it to the games.
• 31:51
  And he did everything he
• 31:52
  could in those aspects to
• 31:54
  make it to the games.
• 31:56
  He had to ignore the aspects
• 31:59
  to do well at the games.
• 32:02
  those were all things he was
• 32:03
  thinking of hours after he
• 32:05
  was cut and he has made
• 32:10
  himself to be a threat in a
• 32:13
  lot of events single events
• 32:16
  at the games and he is
• 32:17
  going to be up there in the
• 32:19
  top five in a lot of those
• 32:20
  but there are going to be
• 32:21
  some where he's going to
• 32:22
  have to really push to an
• 32:24
  extreme level or be behind
• 32:27
  everybody else and make up that ground
• 32:30
  And it's just harder now.
• 32:36
  So, do I want Colton to win the games?
• 32:40
  I want him to win the games so bad.
• 32:43
  Do I think he can win the games?
• 32:45
  I don't think he can.
• 32:47
  But I do think he can be top five.
• 32:49
  And I do think if, just like Kristen Holta,
• 32:53
  if the stars align in a year,
• 32:55
  he could be podium finisher.
• 32:58
  But I don't think,
• 32:59
  with everything he has to overcome,
• 33:01
  that a game's win is in his sights.
• 33:10
  Corey Leonard,
• 33:11
  if anyone can win with one
• 33:12
  hand tied behind their back,
• 33:14
  it's the Iron Hog.
• 33:17
  Lito says amen to that.
• 33:26
  Um...
• 33:31
  Jody says, it'd be so cool.
• 33:33
  Kenneth, the biggest Ironhawk supporter,
• 33:36
  is right there.
• 33:37
  There's the Colton Train.
• 33:53
  Backed on the Metfix.
• 33:54
  Lito says,
• 33:55
  Metfix lost me when they started
• 33:57
  saying that Fruits is bad
• 33:58
  because it has fructose.
• 34:02
  Fruit was made by God.
• 34:03
  God is good.
• 34:04
  Fruit is good.
• 34:10
  And Lita says,
• 34:10
  just can't get on board with
• 34:11
  no or even little fruit, Corey.
• 34:14
  Yeah, I love fruit.
• 34:21
  I am a huge,
• 34:22
  I love pineapple and cherries and grapes.
• 34:28
  And I'll even like concede
• 34:29
  to some strawberries.
• 34:30
  I used to hate strawberries,
• 34:32
  but now I kind of like them.
• 34:35
  Strawberries and blueberries.
• 34:37
  I love blackberries.
• 34:38
  If blackberries didn't have
• 34:41
  seeds that got stuck in my
• 34:42
  teeth all the time,
• 34:43
  I would eat the hell out of
• 34:44
  some blackberries.
• 34:56
  So.
• 34:59
  Tristan Patrick in the house.
• 35:01
  Medfix is CrossFit nutrition
• 35:02
  to make money.
• 35:06
  Yeah.
• 35:07
  I think, again,
• 35:08
  I think that Athena's
• 35:10
  article on her view is what
• 35:15
  I needed to just clear it up.
• 35:18
  And now it's clear.
• 35:20
  And now it's clear.
• 35:22
  They are trying to compete with CrossFit.
• 35:25
  I just wish...
• 35:29
  I just wish Greg would say
• 35:33
  his true feelings about
• 35:35
  what it is and say, like,
• 35:39
  I believe in the broken science.
• 35:41
  That is where I'm at.
• 35:42
  That is what my passion is,
• 35:47
  to fight against the evils
• 35:49
  that are out there in the
• 35:51
  world trying to give bad science.
• 35:55
  That's what his passion is.
• 35:58
  I don't think he wants to
• 35:59
  get in the nitty gritty of all this.
• 36:01
  And I wish he'd just say it and say that,
• 36:05
  Hey, these are the people running it.
• 36:06
  This is what they're doing.
• 36:08
  Um, and I'm over here doing my own thing,
• 36:12
  fighting the good fight
• 36:13
  against the evils of the
• 36:14
  world and the sugar
• 36:15
  industry and the sodas and
• 36:17
  all that kind of stuff.
• 36:21
  Uh, Peter says, I met fixes,
• 36:27
  It really is.
• 36:29
  They had two ways to go about it.
• 36:31
  Either compete with CrossFit,
• 36:32
  which I think is the route they're going,
• 36:34
  even though they're saying they're not.
• 36:35
  And then the other route was
• 36:36
  to be an extension of CrossFit.
• 36:40
  And they went well beyond that.
• 36:45
  Clock says,
• 36:45
  I juice blackberries and beets.
• 36:49
  I'm all with you on the
• 36:51
  juice blackberries.
• 36:53
  The beets, man.
• 36:56
  So here's a nutrition story for you.
• 36:58
  When I was in high school,
• 36:59
  I played football in the
• 37:00
  fall and then I swam in the winter.
• 37:04
  At football,
• 37:04
  I played right tackle my
• 37:07
  junior and senior year.
• 37:11
  And I would play at two
• 37:12
  hundred and ten pounds.
• 37:15
  To swim and be at my best,
• 37:19
  I had to be at one seventy five,
• 37:21
  one eighty.
• 37:22
  So I would try to lose
• 37:23
  weight as quickly as I
• 37:24
  could because I had about
• 37:25
  two weeks between football
• 37:28
  and swim practice to get
• 37:30
  into shape for the other.
• 37:34
  And then the first two weeks
• 37:36
  in the water were just hell every year.
• 37:39
  Hell.
• 37:39
  Hell.
• 37:41
  So I did the Cleveland
• 37:43
  Clinic diet back then.
• 37:45
  And it had like, it was so prescribed,
• 37:48
  like for breakfast on Monday,
• 37:49
  you'll eat this.
• 37:50
  For lunch on Monday, you'll eat this.
• 37:53
  For supper, you'll eat this,
• 37:54
  and this is your snack.
• 37:56
  And it would do that for
• 37:57
  every day of the week.
• 37:58
  And it changed every meal.
• 38:01
  But they put beets in so
• 38:04
  many of those meals, like,
• 38:05
  and I had to eat so many
• 38:06
  beets during that time
• 38:09
  If someone put a beet in
• 38:10
  front of me right now,
• 38:11
  I think I would vomit to this day.
• 38:13
  And that was thirty years ago.
• 38:16
  I can... Beets just... I'm done.
• 38:21
  They were fine for the first
• 38:23
  few weeks of doing that,
• 38:25
  and then couldn't handle them ever again.
• 38:31
  Even when I see pickled eggs
• 38:33
  in the beet juice,
• 38:35
  my stomach gives a little...
• 38:45
  Corey says,
• 38:45
  Tristan is my favorite coach
• 38:46
  that doesn't coach me.
• 38:47
  There you go.
• 38:50
  Tristan's a dude, man.
• 38:52
  Tristan is the dude.
• 38:58
  So, yeah.
• 38:59
  So that's my beat story and
• 39:01
  why I do not like beats and
• 39:04
  can't eat them to this day.
• 39:09
  I know a lot of people have
• 39:10
  said beats to me in this chat,
• 39:12
  and every time I'm holding
• 39:15
  back the vomit when I hear that.
• 39:19
  Oh, so bad.
• 39:23
  So bad.
• 39:26
  But anyway.
• 39:29
  Well, guys,
• 39:29
  I think the only other thing I had was...
• 39:34
  I guess the morning chalk up
• 39:36
  is saying that Kale
• 39:37
  Lehman's telling his side of the story.
• 39:39
  I didn't even go in to read the article.
• 39:41
  I saw Hiller's response that
• 39:43
  it was a joke.
• 39:48
  Has anybody read the article?
• 39:50
  Was it anything earth
• 39:51
  shattering in that article?
• 39:52
  I don't know.
• 39:54
  Again, I have very...
• 40:03
  Little respect for the
• 40:04
  morning chalk up after I work there.
• 40:11
  And so I don't really dive
• 40:14
  into the articles.
• 40:15
  And a lot of times in the past,
• 40:17
  I see a headline that I
• 40:20
  want to read more of and I
• 40:21
  would go in and then it was
• 40:23
  on their paywall.
• 40:24
  I was like, ugh.
• 40:25
  And that seemed to be the
• 40:27
  only... The only...
• 40:31
  Times I wanted to read
• 40:32
  articles is when they hid
• 40:33
  them behind the paywall.
• 40:39
  Train to Live says, don't waste my time.
• 40:47
  Corey says,
• 40:48
  apparently he was all tuckered
• 40:49
  out after that first run
• 40:51
  and it just ruined his weekend.
• 40:53
  And you're talking about the
• 40:54
  Mayhem classic.
• 40:58
  Alito,
• 40:58
  beets and Greek yogurt with a pinch
• 41:00
  of salt and garlic, chef's kiss.
• 41:03
  Oh, Alito.
• 41:12
  And I used to hate yogurt.
• 41:14
  Hate yogurt.
• 41:15
  I actually don't mind it now.
• 41:16
  I like...
• 41:21
  When I was traveling with Jamie,
• 41:25
  she would make us like
• 41:25
  yogurt parfaits to have in
• 41:28
  our backpacks to eat during
• 41:31
  competitions to get us through.
• 41:34
  And I love those.
• 41:36
  I've learned that you just
• 41:37
  have to get the right
• 41:37
  yogurt and not like the cheap stuff.
• 41:40
  And that works.
• 41:46
  Ariel is big on beets.
• 41:48
  Well, good for Ariel.
• 41:50
  I will cheer her from the
• 41:50
  sidelines as I always do.
• 41:54
  But I just will not eat another beat.
• 42:00
  Corey wants to know, Lito,
• 42:01
  is Greek yogurt just called
• 42:03
  yogurt where you are?
• 42:07
  I can't wait to meet Lito.
• 42:11
  She's going to be at the Masters Games.
• 42:14
  Excited to meet her.
• 42:17
  And she says, correct, Corey.
• 42:23
  um I did put in my full
• 42:26
  proposal for behind the
• 42:27
  scenes of the masters
• 42:28
  crossfit games we'll see
• 42:30
  what happens there um
• 42:32
  hopefully I've had enough
• 42:34
  goodwill with the guys and
• 42:36
  I did a good enough job
• 42:37
  with the one last year that
• 42:38
  they'll let me do it again
• 42:39
  this year um I I believe
• 42:43
  we're good to go but I just
• 42:45
  need to get the official
• 42:53
  I'd love to bring on Corey
• 42:55
  as one of the people
• 42:56
  interviewing behind the scenes,
• 42:58
  but I'm just afraid people
• 42:59
  wouldn't understand him
• 43:00
  with the Cajun accent
• 43:04
  because he wants to hang
• 43:05
  with Lito for sure.
• 43:14
  So, yeah, I, I wanted to, uh,
• 43:20
  it's going to be,
• 43:20
  it's going to be an
• 43:21
  interesting week because
• 43:23
  Jamie and Carolyn are both
• 43:25
  going to be competing.
• 43:26
  We're going to try to do a
• 43:27
  behind the scenes if we're
• 43:29
  permitted to do so.
• 43:31
  It's going to be a lot going
• 43:32
  on that weekend.
• 43:34
  And,
• 43:35
  and then all my friends that I've learned,
• 43:38
  um,
• 43:40
  All my friends that I've
• 43:43
  made over the last few
• 43:44
  years are going to be
• 43:47
  awesome to see them again.
• 43:48
  Denise and all of those with you.
• 43:52
  So, gosh, so many people.
• 43:57
  Jay Kazan in the chat,
• 43:58
  Alex likes beet salads, but I'm with you,
• 44:00
  Scott.
• 44:01
  I absolutely hate beets.
• 44:03
  Amen, brother.
• 44:05
  How you doing, by the way?
• 44:06
  Everybody recovering good in your family?
• 44:09
  I see you're trying to get back to work.
• 44:11
  Are you back to work already, Jake?
• 44:25
  Jay Birch thinks Corey can
• 44:26
  speak proper English when he needs to.
• 44:29
  He's not the master of
• 44:30
  accents like you are, Jay Birch, though.
• 44:35
  I just throw out an accent
• 44:36
  and Jay Birch can nail it.
• 44:48
  So, and just to clear it up, Lito says,
• 44:51
  they've got a gazillion
• 44:52
  different brands of yogurt in Greece,
• 44:54
  but yeah, they're all yogurt.
• 44:57
  They don't have just Greek yogurt,
• 45:00
  or is all yogurt Greek yogurt,
• 45:01
  so it's just yogurt.
• 45:05
  They don't even let the
• 45:06
  other stuff into the building,
• 45:10
  into the country.
• 45:15
  All right, well,
• 45:21
  kind of like brazil nuts in
• 45:22
  brazil yeah and french
• 45:25
  fries in france uh jake
• 45:31
  says I'm back to work
• 45:32
  alex's leg is still hurting
• 45:33
  pretty bad though all right
• 45:36
  man I'll keep her in my
• 45:36
  prayers I would have liked
• 45:42
  to see her full strength
• 45:43
  going up against tia we
• 45:45
  talked about that last
• 45:46
  night on the sunday night show
• 45:49
  Gosh, I think she could give Tia a push.
• 45:53
  And I would have loved to have seen that.
• 45:55
  Glad you're back to work, though, buddy.
• 46:04
  With that, guys,
• 46:05
  I got to get back to my
• 46:06
  eight-hour meeting.
• 46:08
  So with that,
• 46:09
  I will see you all tomorrow
• 46:12
  on Lunch with Clydesdale
• 46:14
  because you knuckleheads
• 46:15
  need to get back to work.
• 46:16
  Get back to work, too.
• 46:18
  With that, catch you all later.
• 46:20
  Bye guys.