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Live at California Coastal Rose Society’s Show & Auction [10.25.2025] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: where we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, and more. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: and keeping your yard in tip top shape. Now here
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  Speaker 1: are your hosts, Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox
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  Speaker 1: on the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Garden America. Thanks for being patient and joining
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  Speaker 2: us this morning. We're here from Ocean Side at the
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  Speaker 2: El Corson Senior Center for say that wal Mark Time
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  Speaker 2: the l Cosson Senior Center.
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  Speaker 3: You right that? Do you like that?
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  Speaker 4: Isn't it sexy?
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  Speaker 2: We are here for the California Coastal Rose Society Rare
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  Speaker 2: Rose Auction, Rare Rose Auction combination.
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  Speaker 4: With the Rose Show from the Pacific Southwest District of
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  Speaker 4: the American Rose Society. And our first guest today is
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  Speaker 4: Ruth Tiffany, Right, who is the director? Is that what
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  Speaker 4: it's called?
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  Speaker 5: Southwest District?
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  Speaker 6: Director?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you need to be like right here.
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  Speaker 5: It sounds perfect, Yeah, director, that's who I am.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's such a heavy title right there is
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  Speaker 3: very important.
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  Speaker 5: We have about seventeen societies in the Pacific Southwest District,
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  Speaker 5: going all the way from Las Vegas to Albuquerque and
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  Speaker 5: El Paso.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: It's a huge. It's the largest region in the American
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  Speaker 5: Rose Society.
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  Speaker 2: You know when I find that so true with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Roe societies. Right when you get to the
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  Speaker 2: east coast, we're California or Texas, you know.
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  Speaker 4: They well, there's still the individual local roads societies within that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, next year, No. Twenty seventh,
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  Speaker 4: the San Diego Roase Society is celebrating their one hundredth anniversary.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, one hundred years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Ruth is in charge of setting that convention up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh goodness.
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  Speaker 4: And the neat part about that is it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be in conjunction with the World Federation of Roses. Oh
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  Speaker 4: and they have a show every three years and they're
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  Speaker 4: going to be coming to San Diego.
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  Speaker 2: Now, didn't they do one, like you said, three years
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  Speaker 2: ago or two years ago?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was now?
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  Speaker 4: And this year they did one in Japan, That's what
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say. It was jap Right before
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  Speaker 4: that was in Belgium, and that was the one that
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  Speaker 4: I went to. Rose of Belgica.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if people can see behind us these roses
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  Speaker 2: that are on the table, these are some of the
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  Speaker 2: roses that are for auction, and they have blooms on them.
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  Speaker 2: Normally you have to just look at a picture and
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  Speaker 2: you're kind of hoping it looks like this. But people
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  Speaker 2: come here and they can actually see the rose because it's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on the plant. When they're bidding on it,
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  Speaker 2: they know what they're getting.
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  Speaker 4: Or if you go into the rose show, which is
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  Speaker 4: right in front, you can see a lot of blooms there,
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  Speaker 4: of course perfect condition, but give you an idea for
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  Speaker 4: rose that you might want exactly.
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  Speaker 5: One of the best ways to pick a rose that
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  Speaker 5: you might want is to go into some garden anybody's garden,
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  Speaker 5: usually invited, and and look at the roses and that
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  Speaker 5: that's when you hope that people have named them and
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  Speaker 5: put a little tag on it so that you can
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  Speaker 5: know the name of the rose. Because that's what makes
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  Speaker 5: us all want is to see the name of a
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  Speaker 5: beautiful rose and say I don't have that one exactly.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, if you show roses Tiger, one rose
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  Speaker 4: that wins a lot of awards, uh huh, is named.
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  Speaker 2: Did you put her on the spot right there. It's
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  Speaker 2: named Ruth Tiff Oh wow, very showy rose.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 5: And it's a bright it's a bright orange color, and
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  Speaker 5: it's it's not in commerce, but there are places you
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  Speaker 5: can find it. Oh, I think, Steve, I still think
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  Speaker 5: it's it's available at Wisconsin Roses.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so is it on Is it up for auction
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  Speaker 2: today or tomorrow or no? We've had it in the auction,
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  Speaker 2: but but not this not this year, right, sneak it
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  Speaker 2: in that.
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  Speaker 4: See, we might be able to have one about ten
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  Speaker 4: days ago. Uh. And that's closed now. But if you
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  Speaker 4: come down to Oceanside, uh tomorrow or today, you can
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  Speaker 4: see the rose show and you can do silent bidding
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  Speaker 4: up until noon tomorrow and then we stop the silent
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  Speaker 4: bidding and then the live bidding. I think we have
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  Speaker 4: twenty one roses in the live auction tomorrow, some really
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  Speaker 4: neat roses.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was just walking around earlier and
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  Speaker 2: some of these roses out here are just phenomenal. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: besides sometimes the flower, but you know, learning about the
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  Speaker 2: history of it, I mean, you know it also has
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  Speaker 2: the year that they were created. You know, the hybridizers
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  Speaker 2: all that information, which is all a reason why to
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  Speaker 2: get a rose right.
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  Speaker 5: And if you walk out into the par parking lot
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  Speaker 5: right now, you can see people taking care of roses
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  Speaker 5: in their vehicles. It's just like a dog getting them groomed,
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  Speaker 5: placed in their vases and brought in here to be judged.
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  Speaker 5: And this is also a judging school today, which is
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  Speaker 5: a really very special thing. We have about fifteen people
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  Speaker 5: who want to learn how to be a rose judge
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  Speaker 5: and that one of the best ways to grow roses
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  Speaker 5: is to know as much as you can about them,
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  Speaker 5: and being a judge gives you a perfect way to
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  Speaker 5: learn a lot.
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  Speaker 4: So we have people from Wisconsin here today.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, taking the judging class and the tests so
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  Speaker 5: that they can become judges of rose shows all over
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  Speaker 5: the country.
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  Speaker 3: So tell us a little bit about the judging.
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  Speaker 5: Most people think that we're only judging hybrid tees, which
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  Speaker 5: is and has a perfectly circular form and a nice
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  Speaker 5: pointed center.
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  Speaker 4: Similar to a floristros rights. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So what people see in bouquets, that's kind of what
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  Speaker 2: they're looking at, kind of.
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  Speaker 5: Like the judging, you know, the king or the queen.
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  Speaker 5: But we also have many many miniature roses. We have
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  Speaker 5: shrub roses, we have old garden roses. There are some beautiful,
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  Speaker 5: ocal old garden roses here today that people are going
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  Speaker 5: to be showing. So we have lots of classes. This
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  Speaker 5: rose show has about twenty one classes, I think, but
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  Speaker 5: normal rose shows have anywhere from eighty to ninety different
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  Speaker 5: classes that you can enter in a show, including arrangements,
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  Speaker 5: and including arrangements and arrangements is another really big part
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  Speaker 5: of showing roses.
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  Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, these people are preparing these roses
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  Speaker 2: in the parking lot because I mean, did they cut
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  Speaker 2: these roses last night?
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  Speaker 3: Did they cut them this morning?
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  Speaker 5: They might have cut them this morning. They might have
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  Speaker 5: cut them last night. If they have a floral fridge,
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  Speaker 5: they might have cut them a couple of days ago
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  Speaker 5: and put them in there to just and wait because
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  Speaker 5: they've got cold for a while in a fridge.
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  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 5: So that's that they're kind of obsessive.
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  Speaker 3: They are.
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  Speaker 2: And when you and they're all pleasant people like Bogus
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  Speaker 2: right now, you know, I.
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  Speaker 4: Know you're afraid of the micro ruth. But John in
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  Speaker 4: Newport Beach says, please hold it closer, because oh.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Sorry, John, yeah, I'll try to pick it
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  Speaker 2: up a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm trying to do eight things at once.
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  Speaker 5: So let me tell you something about the the fun
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  Speaker 5: of doing things like this twenty twenty seven convention here
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  Speaker 5: and at the Bahia in San Diego, and we hope
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  Speaker 5: to get a lot of people coming from Europe and
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  Speaker 5: all over the United States to learn and in a symposium.
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  Speaker 5: I recently was in Sicily and symposiums how to do
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  Speaker 5: with a lot of eating, a lot of drinking, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of learning.
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  Speaker 3: Tiger's going to be there, yeah, and just buying my
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  Speaker 3: ticket in Sicily.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit of sex. Oh all right, not here, No,
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  Speaker 5: not enough planning on that for.
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  Speaker 4: Our friend Carla says she's on her way down from
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  Speaker 4: Huntington Beach. Yeah, she's going to meet Lyla from Powaway
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  Speaker 4: and they're coming over to the road show.
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  Speaker 5: All right, come on, girls, drive safe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. This is such a wonderful facility. You guys
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  Speaker 3: have done this before here, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We have. The auction has been here a couple of times,
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  Speaker 5: and the Senior Center is very amiable in helping out right, John.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it has a price.
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  Speaker 5: It always has a price.
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  Speaker 4: It has a price. And you know a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people think that, well, you guys make a lot of
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  Speaker 4: money at your auction or you know, but it all
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  Speaker 4: goes back in to paying for the cost of putting
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  Speaker 4: putting the show on, putting the auction on.
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  Speaker 5: I think we should also talk about the twenty five
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  Speaker 5: years John has been doing this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, well you know what of the auction,
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  Speaker 4: and he'll tell us a little bit about that. All right,
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  Speaker 4: great history there, Joel.
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  Speaker 5: Do that, and thank you Tiger, Thank you John. And
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  Speaker 5: if you're in this vicinity, come to the auction and
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  Speaker 5: come to the show.
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  Speaker 3: Perfect yeah, thank you, Ruth.
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  Speaker 4: You did mention no sex, but you are giving free hugs.
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  Speaker 3: I heard lots and lots of lots of hugs. All right,
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  Speaker 3: perfect problem. All right, thank you very much, Ruth. We'll
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  Speaker 3: see in a bit.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to have Joel on next, doctor Joel Ross,
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Joel Ross. And Joel is now taking a seat
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  Speaker 2: next to us. Joel, that's your mic right there, and Joel,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you, Tiger and John. I'm very happy to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, every good morning. And Joel, what was your
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  Speaker 3: role again?
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  Speaker 2: John did this wonderful title introduction but I've been seeing
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  Speaker 2: you running around you. I mean, you're doing everything here.
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  Speaker 7: I'm in charge of making sure we have the right people,
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  Speaker 7: the right materials. Everyone shows up and they all go
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  Speaker 7: into the right place. I'm computer central, being computer illiterate.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's a busy job, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Joel pointed out that to me yesterday, that this is
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  Speaker 4: our twenty fifth auction, and he started the auction. And
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  Speaker 4: I've only I only started three years later. Right, that's correct.
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  Speaker 3: So you're twenty five, he's twenty two. Then, exactly got it.
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  Speaker 7: So I'll tell you the story of how that happened.
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  Speaker 7: But the way it started was when I joined this
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  Speaker 7: Rose Society. Every time we had to do something, everyone said,
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  Speaker 7: oh my god, we have no money. What are we
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  Speaker 7: going to do? So I invited everyone to bring plants
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  Speaker 7: they wanted to rid themselves of. We put thirteen plants.
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  Speaker 6: Out and in the five minutes during the coffee break, people.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio show with Brian
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  Speaker 8: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 7: The next year I was joined by another member, and
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  Speaker 7: the third year, I wasn't very good at getting these
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  Speaker 7: plants ready, and I had a wonderful plant called canary diamond,
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  Speaker 7: which is very hard to get as a bright yellow,
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  Speaker 7: and I left a dead bloom on it. And you know,
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  Speaker 7: I do this for a living.
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  Speaker 2: I think I could be of help.
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  Speaker 4: I was in retail at the time, and Joel was
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  Speaker 4: so proud of this rose because I think it had
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  Speaker 4: two petals, was yellow. But I said, you know, people
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  Speaker 4: are not going to be on something like that. So
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  Speaker 4: I helped him out, and as we went through the years,
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  Speaker 4: it went from from local auction to putting it online
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  Speaker 4: and shipping plants all over the country.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, so the way that would happen is John would
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  Speaker 7: call me and say, I'm going out to the flower
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  Speaker 7: fields about one hundred and fifty miles away. Do you
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  Speaker 7: want me to take you? And I we said, cancel
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  Speaker 7: all my patients, I'm going.
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  Speaker 4: So you're talking about the San Jose Heritage Rose Gardens
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  Speaker 4: where we saved a lot of roses from and other
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  Speaker 4: gardens too, like Wisconso and gardens in Lakenyata all over.
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  Speaker 7: So we would drive around and he would tell me
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  Speaker 7: things like, well, you know, I want to put this
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  Speaker 7: on nationally and we'll have somebody do this and that,
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  Speaker 7: And I thought to myself, that'll never happen after three
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  Speaker 7: years of the telling me that. I said, fine, he
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  Speaker 7: already had somebody all lined up and the next.
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  Speaker 6: Day they were ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's so funny. He was behind the scenes working
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  Speaker 3: on it already.
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  Speaker 4: Right by the way, Joel, we are friend Hastam in Pakistan.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome Shoo to the show.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, thank you, very nice to hear from you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: And Carlos has hided Joe Joel as well. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things you guys did mention, you know before,
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  Speaker 2: was you know, the the auction funds. You know, but
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  Speaker 2: these funds go towards different rows sites, different rows growers
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  Speaker 2: to help produce more right.
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  Speaker 4: Right, or just saving roses in danger of extinction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, you know it's this isn't just
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  Speaker 2: you know, a fundraiser for the society to just have
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  Speaker 2: a party.
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  Speaker 3: This is this is preserving roses.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, if you guys were I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: put you on the spot here, if you guys were
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  Speaker 2: to kind of think back your past twenty five years
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  Speaker 2: of doing this, I mean, how many roses do you
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  Speaker 2: think that you guys have been been impactful with as
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  Speaker 2: preserving roses?
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  Speaker 4: We have we've had in our auction. I can't tell
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  Speaker 4: you the number because some roses we've repeated, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we try to get as many out there in public.
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  Speaker 4: But as far as different roses in the auction, we've
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  Speaker 4: put out over two thousand varieties gotcha, twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Five years gotcha, And some of those were one of
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  Speaker 3: a kind roses.
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  Speaker 2: So now you've put those back into the market, and
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  Speaker 2: hopefully people have now begun to propagate those and grow them,
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  Speaker 2: and then their number is increases.
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  Speaker 7: In fact, people write and email John and say, by
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  Speaker 7: the way, we lost.
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  Speaker 4: This Listen garden in Germany, and we've sent them forty
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  Speaker 4: roses that they had lost, and they've got eighty thousand
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  Speaker 4: roses and about ten thousand varieties. And it's to send
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  Speaker 4: something back to an important garden like that makes me
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  Speaker 4: feel like I've done.
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  Speaker 2: Something, definitely, definitely, And I mean, you know, to put
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  Speaker 2: this in kind of a little bit of another perspective too,
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  Speaker 2: is garden across the world do this with plants because
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  Speaker 2: they don't they know there's a risk of growing one
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  Speaker 2: plant in one area, So why do not send them
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  Speaker 2: to Germany, send them to France, send some of the
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  Speaker 2: United States. Then hopefully between all of these regions, all
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  Speaker 2: these places, somebody will keep it in case there's you
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  Speaker 2: never know what happens, you know, natural disasters or closures,
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  Speaker 2: or you know, all kinds of gophers. They have gophers worldwide,
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  Speaker 2: so you know you got to watch out for those.
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  Speaker 4: The World Federation proposed the three three thirty rule, and
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  Speaker 4: the way that rule generally goes is if the rosesn't
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  Speaker 4: in three botanical gardens being grown by three commercial growers,
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  Speaker 4: or in thirty private gardens, it's in danger of extinction.
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  Speaker 4: So we try to have a lot of those. But
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  Speaker 4: we try to have something for everybody because you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people like to just exhibit roses, so
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  Speaker 4: they don't care about preserving them. Well, we like those
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  Speaker 4: people too, so we have we have modernes, we have
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  Speaker 4: exhibition type roses. Ruth was telling us about all the
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  Speaker 4: different classes so that you can exhibit it. And in
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  Speaker 4: some roses by certain breeders are hard to find. They
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  Speaker 4: go out of commerce. And and you have orange juice
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  Speaker 4: in your yard. Yeah, I can't tell you how many
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  Speaker 4: people have wanted that and we've put it in the auction.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's another one this year, maybe not but we've.
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  Speaker 2: Sold exactly exactly will do definitely, so so Joel, what
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  Speaker 2: is in line for today? If people are in the area,
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  Speaker 2: they want to come to Oceanside again with the Alkodas
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  Speaker 2: on Senior Center here in Oceanside, what are what are
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  Speaker 2: some things that people can expect today.
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  Speaker 7: We're having a wonderful Rose show. It's an American Rose
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  Speaker 7: Society road show. There's no charge. They'll be on display
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  Speaker 7: later today in the afternoon and all day tomorrow. We're
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  Speaker 7: having a silent auction. The flowers are up on the tables.
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  Speaker 7: There's bid sheets. You can walk around and you can
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  Speaker 7: take your time and you can bid by upping it
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  Speaker 7: by a dollar.
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  Speaker 4: That's up until noon tomorrow. That's when it closed.
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  Speaker 7: Closes at noon and people get a little more wild
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  Speaker 7: when they're starting to close.
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  Speaker 6: If they want something.
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  Speaker 3: They start over the bid sheet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, or their bid really slowly.
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  Speaker 2: I saw some of the ladies already have their helmets
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  Speaker 2: on shoulder pads.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, it's tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: You get jostled in there. So that's noon and then
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  Speaker 7: we'll have people go out and get themselves lunch. Across
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  Speaker 7: the street, there's ten wonderful restaurants out there at one
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  Speaker 7: point thirty we will and the reason we do that
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  Speaker 7: is we're taking the cans of flowers off of the
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  Speaker 7: table and we're putting them by bitter winning bidder. So
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  Speaker 7: we do that and once we're finished with that, we
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  Speaker 7: start the live watch and John and Tiger will be
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  Speaker 7: up there.
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  Speaker 4: Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian will.
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  Speaker 6: Be here, Brian will be there, Brian's you'.
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  Speaker 4: I like it when the bidding kind of slow us
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: down a little, and Brian will go to h a
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: person who had bit two bits ago. You want to
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: go forty, don't you? Of course you do.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they go okay, Well, sometimes it really gets so
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: crazy that Brian will say thirty five dollars. Eight hands
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: go up, So we have spotters out there saying which
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: person went and what and then someone will go forty
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: and that happens again.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Very exciting.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is very exciting and all for a good cause.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So that's the the other thing that you know, kind
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: of goes on and you get to go home w
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: something that you really can cherish, and and you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: some of these like you say, if you're a true
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: garden enthusiast and a true rose enthusiast. Some of these
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: are going to be you know, only a few of
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: them in the United States, maybe only a few of
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: them in the world.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Act well, one is being offered. It's a new rose
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: being offered for the first time, and it's called Phoebe
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: A Dell Gates. And I don't know if we talked
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: about this on the radio, but for listeners who didn't
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: hear this story, Berling Leong, who's one of the speakers.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: This afternoon, Joel got a call from Paul McCartney and
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Paul said, I heard you might have roses available for
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: naming rights, and she said, well, I have a few,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: and he goes, well, I'm going to have my grandson
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: call you. So Paul's grandson called her and said, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: want to buy a rose for my girlfriend for Christmas.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: And his girl.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America radio show with Brian
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: John and Tiger and they.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Named it Phoebe A Dell Gates and he gave that
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: to our for Christmas. Which is a great idea because
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: if you're dating Phoebe Gates, who can have every other
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah, and.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: You can say, oh, well, they could go.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And buy one of those stars it's like, well, but yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: come on, now, let's see you don't even see that
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: every night you walk into your garden and.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: See people have that star.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so this rose is a beautiful red climber
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: and it has occasional stripes going through it, so it's
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: really pretty.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Do we have it here yet?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Is it here on site?
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Did you know if it was blooming?
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: If it's okay, we have a very lovely picture of
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: its brewling here yet I don't know.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that might be fun if we can find it,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: we'll bring in and show show some of the listeners
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: for sure, because I mean, you know, again, like we
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: said earlier, the beauty of having this event in southern
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: California is that there are so many bloom cycles that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: when you come here, these roses are acting. Yeah, and
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: it's a you know, great opportunity.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: And they flower in the middle of February.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: I go out in my garden and I pick flowers.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: And a little early. That's only if you don't cut
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: them back.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: You're just you're just bragging.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Now, You're just you're just making all of our East
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Coast friends here and you know people in central parts
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of the state be a little bit envious of you.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: There.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: By the way, Tiger, thanks for the nice words from Daisy. Oh,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: she says, I love this show. Gave us a little
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: EMOCHI hert thank you. So she's been listening to the
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: old shows on iHeartRadio and learning.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So much good.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: All right, thank you Daisy for the nice words. You know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I wanted to mention too, I forgot to. Yeah, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: kind of glossed over those. But yeah, we have three speakers, right,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and these are these are icons in the rose world.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: It's not just you, I or Tiger going up there
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and talking about roses. But our keynote speaker is Greg
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Lowry and uh and then the other two Berlin Leong,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: who's rose breeders in the world today and a really
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: nice guy. But he he is producing roses that are
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: disease resistant. They're is a true series of They're called
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: true something like true Bliss, true Love, Uh, those true
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: integrity and a lot of those roses are at home
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: depot or Low's.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: So real quick, I want to talk more about peeing
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: because of what he does, Greg Lewer, what is he
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: going to speak about you didn't mention what he was
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: going to speak about. You know why, Oh you don't know.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It's as it's a mystery. No matter what, We're going
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to listen because.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I can quickly tell a little story if Joel doesn't mind. Joel,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Joel's friend Margie, who will be here tomorrow if anybody
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: wants to meet her. By the way, But Joel's friend Margie,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: it lives in Michigan, knows nothing about Roses before she
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: met you, right, Is that a fair statement? Very little?
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: Very little?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very little. And Joel asked me, I I looking
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: for a book that I could get for her. So
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I said, Karon and hand drawn Art by Greg It's amazing.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: And he goes, well, he says, do you have one?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I said, I have one, but you know there's one
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: available on Amazon if you want to get it there.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: And he said, well, how much are they and I
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: said seven ninety nine and he said, well, give me two.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: And he said, I said, are you sure that's a
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: lot of money, And he goes, that's fifteen dollars.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: No tomorrow night or is it tonight Saturday?
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: The dinner The dinner we have is tonight.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: We have a dinner and you can sit right next
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: to these people and chat with them all night long,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: and they're fascinating. I spent the whole day with Greg yesterday.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: We had a wonderful time. So that's another thing you
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: could do. And I mean, these are these are stars
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: in the rose world.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Well, and you know I wanted to mention about, you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Greg and what he was going to talk about, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: then I mentioned before that, ping ping limon where why
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and what he does? I mean, the beauty behind his
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: path is that, for lack of better terms, he's funded
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: by a company that's trying to produce a wonderful rose
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: that they can sell to.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: The plants, and they're trying to work to working for
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Jackson and Perkins.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: And they're trying to three roses to sell to the masses.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a lot of emphasis behind his work,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: But the beauty behind that is that he also gets
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to have this wonderful opportunity to do things that maybe
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: none of us will never have a chance to do
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: because of the numbers he's dealing with. So he can
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: have this beautiful, beautiful rose in development. And yes it
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: might not be the exact diseases, it might not bloom
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the perfect cycle. But to us as as a collector,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it is way more enticing, way more intriguing to us
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: because of whether the flower, the color, the fragrance, or
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the plants.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: It's except for ping, it will be diseaseously well.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, acted by this, you know, organizations that are trying
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: to get these mazings. But in just in the by default,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: he has these opportunities, which is really cool. So there's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: some really cool plants he's behind.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: And I do know Pink's topic, oh yeah, and his
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: topic is how far can rose breeding take us? So
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, not only what's going on now,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: but what's possible in the future.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Gotcha? Okay, Okay, So I'm kind of looking. I mean,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, just in.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Our just in our lifespan, roses have really turned a
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: couple of corners, because meaning meaning you know, when roses
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: first came out, obviously they were own route you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: hybridizing and stuff like that. Then grafting, you know, then
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the grafting idea took.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Crafting took over early, like in the early twentieth century.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Right, and now we're back to now we're back.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So I mean, just in our lifespan, though the whole
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: idea of roses have really changed a lot.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And the reason they were grafted was because of
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: what you're saying. To to have somebody go out there
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: and physically graft a rose in a field adds cost
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: to the roast. So now pretty much the roses are
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: being bred that are going to grow well on their
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: own roots, which is good for cold climates too.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Right exactly, And you know, I mean we talked about,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you know, certain roses, different soils and things like that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Have lar to be gopher resistant.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: So so he's that's his million dollar idea, billion billion dollar.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: You amy the idea you said, why don't you cross
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: it with the venus fly trapp but just snap shot
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: exactly exactly.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: So so Joel, we're gonna let you get back to
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: we we knew you're very busy this morning. We're gonna
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: let you get back to what you're doing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But you know again, come on out. You'll be here
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and you know, people can chat with you and you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: pick your brain and and thanks for joining the show,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: for having me.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And if you see Greg out, they're telling him
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: to come over here, he may not. You might have
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: gone back this late. He had a big day yesterday
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: and and uh is he still up north and Sebastopolia.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: That's where he's STI you and I want to pick
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: up the roses.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, gotcha, gotcha?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to try to get this back
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: on you check our audio because I have been doing
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: three things at once. All right, everybody, Well, John's checking
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: out what's going on in the auction.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Floor behind us.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I will I bet it smells amazing in there, Veronica.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: You know that is the cool thing about kind of
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: coming here to this event because you know, besides just
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a wonderful rose, they fragrance is spectacular because a lot
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: of these have been bred specifically for their fragrance, which
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: is which is always fun because you know, some people
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: we talk about, you know, want to see the flowers.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Some people say, you know, they want to see the fragrance.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Some people want to look at how it grows. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I will say the other thing too, is that in
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the auction there really is a rose for any of everyone,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: because they've got climbing roses, they've gotten miniature roses, they've
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: got the hybrid tees, they've got Flora bundos, they've got
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: grand to Flora's so and then they have all in
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: between there, so there's a lot of opportunity to find roses. Hey, Greg,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: good morning, How are you all right? John just went
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: and picked out some roses. I heard we woke you up.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to get you going early this morning.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: This mic is going to be yours right there?
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, what is this one tiny dynamite?
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: That's that's a micro mini rose.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Micro mini. Huh, yeah, you know they're in the day
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: with the micromachines.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the micro their miniature roses. You know, it's
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: the class that they belong to. But they have smaller
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: leaves and usually smaller flowers than miniatures. That's the term
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: micro mini.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: All right, So joining us this morning now, all the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: way I think we're I think we're totally hiding in
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: behind all those roses right there. Greg, if you want
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to move them off to the side a little bit, you.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Can hid me.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can hide.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: John and Tiger So.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Greg Lowry, good morning, Good morning.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: You have to hold it up that close because of
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: our connection. Yeah, don't be afraid. Is that sounding okay.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, definitely yeah, so so so Greg, what is your
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: role here with the event today?
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: Let's see, I'm here to babysit John.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he does need that's not here, Shannon's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: not here, so well.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Greg's a keynote speaker. And Tiger was asking me earlier
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: what you were going to be talking about, and all
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I could come up with was roses. So I'm not
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: sure what you finally decided.
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: Whatever I talk about, the underlying thing is always about roses.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: And it's always going to be something that people find interesting.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: But did you what's the title of your talk.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: It's got a strange title, which I've forgotten because I
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: just invented a few days ago. But okay, but it's
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: basically about it's about my It's about my reluctant traveling.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: All right, Sorry for the interruption there. That was my
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: technical difficulties happening over here.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: But the bathroom break, so first.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I interrupted, Greg, And you know, it would be really
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: good to do. We do this on the show sometimes
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: when we have a problem, we have a long break
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and then we go just.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Pick up where you left off. Greg.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, do you even remember, Yeah, Tiger always
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: remembers where we were. I never do. If it was
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: like in the last five minutes, forget it. I have
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: no idea what we were talking about.
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: Well, John was telling saying, trying to show my focus
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: on in my interest in roses historically being you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: pre twentieth century or early twentieth century.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Right, That's what I said your focus was. And then
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: you responded, no, No, you don't know what you're talking about.
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: Well, I'm not that focused. No, I think you're you're
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: You're right. Those this period that makes me feel better,
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: the period at the turn of the century, between the
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: eighteenth between the eighteen hundreds and the nineteen hundreds, when
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: I think the most extraordinary rose breeding ever was was
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: was was done, and it affected all the roses that
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: we grow today.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: The the You know a lot about that period, and
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: that is an area of expertise, But is it fair
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: to say those are the roses that you're you're most
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: fond of? Actually, yeah, Okay.
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: One of the things I'm going to do in my
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: talk this afternoon is talk specifically about that group of
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: roses and why I think they're so special and so
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: worthy of being kept.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: And that when we were in Europe. I there were
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of those older European breeders that I was
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: not that familiar with that. I'm trying to think of
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: the guy at one of the I think he was
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: the head of the botanical garden in Belgium at one
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: of those.
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: Stagation and paying and observing nature, and that's what they
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: were doing. They were always people who work with plants
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: are always observing nature, right, and they're watching it change,
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: and they're watching things grow and die, and they they
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: simply understood ultimately what was going on. And what the
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: people in Maryland did the feast Brothers is they put
• 34:57
  Speaker 9: pots of roses that were climbing to arch over roses
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: that were bushy that were below them, because they knew
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: that the pollen was going to eventually do the trick.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it wasn't until later they realized, hey, we
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: can just take the pilin.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but you can manually do this.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: That's pretty innovative. Isn't it right to just have them
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: hanging over and then do their thing exactly?
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean, when you when you
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: only know so much in the beginning, like you're saying,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: you feel like it has to happen this way, like
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: it has to fall onto it or whatever it is
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: you do whatever you do. Now all of a sudden
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you're like, wait a minute, I can step in here,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I can I can fiddle around with this a little bit,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and I can do it, you know, manually, so to speak.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I remember pedro dot I think I remember else they
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: made it up, But Greg, I used to take the
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: pollen parent and make a little teepee and a hole
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: and put it around the rose that he wanted pollinated,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: and it would kind of hang up site down in there.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: So a little smaller version of what you're described.
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, Yeah don't.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know why they never thought of just taking
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: the pollen.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: So I do want to hit on this idea because
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you know, Greg, you're going to be doing a speech
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: later on for the program and people that are listening,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and you know, people that are interested. This isn't this
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: is about roses, right, Okay, So that's a key part
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: of it. But at the same time, it's the idea
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: of preservation of all gardening, preservation exactly, and not just
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: you know, preservation, but just the idea of gardening. You know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the getting out there and being with nature, growing plants,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: growing flowers. You know, I think if people carry this
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: idea that you brought in the beginning to the whole
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: idea of gardening, of this idea that you have this
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: opportunity to grow a flower that maybe was sitting in
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a vase on Napoleon's dinner table on his desk, this
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: is a plant that was actually there at that moment
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: in time.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: You know, this was the flower that they saw, or
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: if this was the fruit and.
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: This was the rose that Teddy Roosevelt put in every
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: day of his presidency.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, that idea, If people put that in their
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: heads when it comes to their garden, they're going to
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: start to grow.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: An eclectic group of plants.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: You know, they're not just going to grow iceberg roses
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: in Salvia leucantha in La mandra because they look pretty together.
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  Speaker 4: Don't necessarily set up formal rose gardens. So you probably
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  Speaker 4: do that too. But a lot of people want roses.
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  Speaker 4: It's an integral part of the landscape, exactly.
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  Speaker 9: And I think I find that people are always trying
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  Speaker 9: to figure roses because they realize petals are going to
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  Speaker 9: fall and they don't want to be cleaning up all
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  Speaker 9: summer long, so clean up once in the spring, and
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  Speaker 9: that's it, and maybe it would be a tourist attraction
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  Speaker 9: once they're all blowing. And you know, China today is
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  Speaker 9: planting on their super highways. They're planting. They're leaving medians
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  Speaker 9: that are extremely broad, like thirty feet or forty feet
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  Speaker 9: across to plant roses in, and their breeders are breeding
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  Speaker 9: roses to go into those those situations so that they
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  Speaker 9: have the right strengths.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to the soot, the debris, the high amounts of
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  Speaker 2: you know, exhaust and all of that kind of stuff. Huh,
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  Speaker 2: really really interesting stuff. Thank you very much for joining
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  Speaker 2: us this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Greg.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you good luck on your speech, and we look
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  Speaker 2: forward to hearing what.
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  Speaker 3: You have to say.
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  Speaker 2: Keep it a secret so that way, you know, people
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  Speaker 2: show up and just don't know what to expect.
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  Speaker 4: It might be a secret to Greg. I love it
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  Speaker 4: what he looks at the power point to realize this
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  Speaker 4: is what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: That's what John does too. I love it. You know.
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