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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 1-13-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald is our Broncos insider.
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  Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Pro Football The Insider.
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  Speaker 3: I've covered the league a little while.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Legwald too cute.
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  Speaker 3: Let's dial down the queue and just play football.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
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  Speaker 2: Start with a job and with a career. IVW Local
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  Speaker 2: sixty eight. It's Leggy, Yeah, Yeah, yeah. On Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 2: Radio ninety two five.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff, Jeff's Jeff Legwald with us here Monday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald's appearance, brought to you by the International Brotherhood
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  Speaker 1: of Electrical Workers IBW Local sixty eight. Start with a
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  Speaker 1: job and with a career, Leggy. The Broncos overmatched yesterday
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo. They got Big BOYD big time out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yet they also did not play well and did not
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  Speaker 1: give them a chance themselves a chance to stay in
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  Speaker 1: that game. When you look back on that performance yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: what was Denver's greatest failing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, Nate, I think they missed the window
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  Speaker 4: where the pressure would have gone to the Bills. I
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  Speaker 4: mean that game still, you know, ten seven and a half,
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  Speaker 4: it's thirteen to seven deep into the third You've got
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity there to really move the pressure to a
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  Speaker 4: team that thinks it's going to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: I mean when I drove into.
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  Speaker 4: The stadium yesterday, the people who check your parking pass
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  Speaker 4: were like, see you next week. I mean they were already,
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  Speaker 4: you know, putting it down as a w And even
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  Speaker 4: when the Broncos scored first, you know, they have the
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  Speaker 4: celebration they do after the Bills score. You know, they've
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  Speaker 4: done it forever since I covered the team in ninety four,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but nobody sang along. It was like the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos scored and immediately there was nerves and I think
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  Speaker 4: they just missed the window right after halftime, you know,
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  Speaker 4: again three and outs in the second half. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they do nothing on offense, uh, and give their defense,
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  Speaker 4: which was, you know, welcome to the Baltimore Ravens game plan.
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  Speaker 4: The Bills obviously did their homework. They attacked the same
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  Speaker 4: parts of the formation as the Ravens did. But that,
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  Speaker 4: to me, that was the sin they mit. After the
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  Speaker 4: fake punt, you know, they got a little momentum all
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  Speaker 4: those things.
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  Speaker 3: They missed that window right there, all.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Jeff, It's Joseph Sean Payton, What do we make
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  Speaker 5: of yesterday?
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  Speaker 6: What do we make of what will be going on
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  Speaker 6: going forward?
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  Speaker 5: You know he's gonna you know, obviously Vance Goodfrieims can
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  Speaker 5: interview for a couple of jobs, and probably I wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: be surprised a few more requests come in now that
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  Speaker 5: he's on the marketing can be talked to and there's
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  Speaker 5: no more timeline restrictions for him. But where do you
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  Speaker 5: think things in with him at these coaching interviews don't
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  Speaker 5: work out his way, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And you just got to judge it by what people say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And now you know, folks might be lying,
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  Speaker 4: they might change their mind, they might you know, do
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  Speaker 4: things later. But as of this moment, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think he would be here. But you know again, you know,
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  Speaker 4: everybody I know who's who's worked for Sean Payton jokes
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  Speaker 4: how many times they've been fired by Peyton during their
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  Speaker 4: time with him. So it's it's gonna be a bumpy
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  Speaker 4: ride if you're here. But you know again, it's it's
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  Speaker 4: you know, I know he'd like to be a head coach. Ah,
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  Speaker 4: it's difficult to be in a position with a playoff
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  Speaker 4: team that gets you interviews. I mean, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: here for him too, you know, if head coaching doesn't
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  Speaker 4: work out. But you know, anytime you get beat like yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: But I'm not sure you could just say the offense
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  Speaker 4: was awesome them and the defense lost in the game,
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  Speaker 4: that type of thing. But you know, again I in house,
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  Speaker 4: I don't hear of you know enough to move on
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  Speaker 4: from him.
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  Speaker 3: But again we'll see people change their minds.
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  Speaker 4: These ends of the season meetings often you know, do
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  Speaker 4: things in a lot of directions. And you know, nobody
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  Speaker 4: in charge was happy about yesterday's result because you know,
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  Speaker 4: again you want to know how far they are away
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  Speaker 4: from the elite. Well, now you have a good measuring
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  Speaker 4: stick basically from the season Ravens, Chiefs with Mahomes in
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  Speaker 4: the lineup, Burrow, I mean, everybody elite sort of they played,
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  Speaker 4: they did not be.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where they are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Owen six against Alan Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow and Herbert
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  Speaker 1: this season, and they're going to look back on that
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  Speaker 1: and maybe that's a sober reminder of how far they
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  Speaker 1: had to Now, Leggy, I guess this is kind of
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  Speaker 1: my confusion and all of it is like performance wise, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Vance Joseph wouldn't go anywhere. But does Sean Payton want
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  Speaker 1: vance Joseph back in that role next year? Dennis Allen
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  Speaker 1: is available, He's got Jim Leonard on his staff who
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  Speaker 1: he really likes. Is it possible Sean could go hunting
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  Speaker 1: for somebody that's sort of one of his guys, so
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  Speaker 1: to speak.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, like I say, anything can happen, and
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  Speaker 4: he's end of the season meetings. I mean after twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 4: John Fox did not walk into that meeting with John
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  Speaker 4: Elway thinking he was getting fired. He was walking in
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  Speaker 4: thinking they were going to talk about staff changes and
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  Speaker 4: he would be allowed to give his opinion, and he
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  Speaker 4: walked out no longer the head coach of the Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I've been doing it long enough to
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  Speaker 4: never say never on anything, But I believe this is
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  Speaker 4: the highest ranked defense Sean Payton's ever had in his
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  Speaker 4: entire ten.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I just you know, again, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how.
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  Speaker 4: You could look at yesterday and say, Okay, that's the
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  Speaker 4: defense's fault. I mean, it was a thirteen to seven
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  Speaker 4: game with three minutes to go in the third quarter,
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  Speaker 4: you know, until they make the back of the end
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  Speaker 4: zone touchdown, which seemed to send the walls cascading down
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  Speaker 4: after that. But you know, again, I never say never,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't think personally it would be a very
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  Speaker 4: wise move because you know, you guys know my feeling
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  Speaker 4: on firing people unless you have a better alternative already
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  Speaker 4: in mind and talk to I'm not sure you make
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  Speaker 4: a move that includes owners with head coaches.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're not suggesting they should. Jeff, just you know
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  Speaker 6: I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: That's never stopped anybody I'd ever seen on the sideline.
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  Speaker 5: But nonetheless, we finally saw out the open a little
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  Speaker 5: of the shared frustration with each other.
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  Speaker 6: I'd say, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't shock me.
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  Speaker 4: With Sean Payton, again, I've had guys he's worked.
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  Speaker 3: I know one guy who's worked with.
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  Speaker 4: Him I've known for a long time, said Sean Payton
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  Speaker 4: has fired him fourteen times when he was on his staff.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean it's, you know, the next day he's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, let's get to work. But he's he's hot blooded.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna scream at you. If you're a player or
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  Speaker 4: an assistant coach. It's gonna happen. It will happen. People
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  Speaker 4: will see it. I mean, it's just a given if you're.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna work for or play for Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 4: So if it goes beyond that, it would surprise me.
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  Speaker 3: But again I never say never in this.
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  Speaker 6: All right, real quick? Who is we saw?
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  Speaker 5: Adam Schefter tweeted out the list of free agents the
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  Speaker 5: Broncos have. Who is the top free agent on the
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  Speaker 5: list they must keep?
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  Speaker 6: In your opinion?
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  Speaker 5: It's not a list of a bunch of sexy names,
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  Speaker 5: but DJ Jones is on there, Cody Barton.
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  Speaker 6: Is on there. Who's the guy they got to keep
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  Speaker 6: in your mind?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 4: You know, again, it's a lot of it depends on
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  Speaker 4: how active you think you're going to be in free agency,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And what's the plan with Benito? Is the
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  Speaker 4: money going to Benito before the season starts?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: Are you going to try to do that like you
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  Speaker 4: did with certain like you did with minors? I think
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  Speaker 4: those are the two biggest questions. And you know, they
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  Speaker 4: they still got pretty hefty dead money next year from
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  Speaker 4: the Russell you know, thirty two of it from Russell,
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  Speaker 4: and I think at least ten or twelve more was
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  Speaker 4: already on the books too, So they've got some dead.
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  Speaker 3: Money they've got to deal with. But you know, in
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  Speaker 3: terms of a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Snaps, I think DJ Jones, you know, had his best
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  Speaker 4: year this year with them, so and that's probably a
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  Speaker 4: guy you could afford to bring back. So Spartan really,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, until he got here, most of his career
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  Speaker 4: he's been a special teamer. He's had some sporadic starting duty,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a season here, season there. But uh, I
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  Speaker 4: think inside linebacker is going to be a position they
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  Speaker 4: look to address because they were a little light inside
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  Speaker 4: and the good running teams made them pay for it
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  Speaker 4: all season.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lakewell, brought to you by the International Brotherhood of
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  Speaker 1: Electrical Workers IBEW Local sixty eight. Start with a job
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  Speaker 1: end with the career. As long as we're looking ahead,
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  Speaker 1: Leggie is the Broncos leading rusher in twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: on the roster right now.
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  Speaker 4: I go on a limb and say, I think the
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  Speaker 4: odds are better it's a rookie than he's on the
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  Speaker 4: roster right now. But you know, again, does it fall
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  Speaker 4: your way, you know, we'll see. But I know that's
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  Speaker 4: a position they'll be looking at. Tight end, running back,
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  Speaker 4: impact that wide receivers. They're gonna be you know, yesterday
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  Speaker 4: was clear. You know, some of it is. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and I think some of it is. Maybe they were
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  Speaker 4: a little head of schedule and we all got caught
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  Speaker 4: up in you know, where they were. You know, they
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  Speaker 4: roughed up the bad teams on their schedule and which
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  Speaker 4: you know, hey, that's what you do. And they got
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  Speaker 4: a playoff spot. But you know, we've said it on
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  Speaker 4: this show. Look at the list of quarterbacks in the AFC.
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  Speaker 4: You could make an argument that you're really playing for
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  Speaker 4: two playoff spots in the AFC each year. Everybody else
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  Speaker 4: who doesn't have one of those guys. I mean, a
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  Speaker 4: guy like Burrow has to miss the playoffs for like
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  Speaker 4: a surprise team to get in.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's where you're at in the AFC.
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  Speaker 4: And they were they were talent deficient in their own
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  Speaker 4: division and they are talent deficient in the AFC. And
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  Speaker 4: that's you know, there's no quick fix to that. Just
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  Speaker 4: got to get get more guys again.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they weren't.
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  Speaker 4: Ready for the They weren't ready for the moment either.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, did the Bills drop passes? No, you know,
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  Speaker 4: did the Bills uh fail in the red zone?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: Did the Bills fail on third down. No, I mean
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  Speaker 4: they that was a team that's been building for years
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  Speaker 4: to be in this position, and you just saw the difference.
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  Speaker 4: And we can't talk our way around that. I mean
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  Speaker 4: they one team has been building toward this for season
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  Speaker 4: after season after season. The other team is just digging
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  Speaker 4: out of a playoff drought. And the difference was pretty clear.
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  Speaker 4: And they needed luck, turnovers and good fortune and they
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  Speaker 4: didn't get any of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't skip steps in the NFL real quick,
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  Speaker 1: and I would imagine leg you this very well is
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  Speaker 1: probably something you'll write about in the off season. What
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  Speaker 1: was Sean Pton doing with the running game exactly this year?
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  Speaker 1: What what was the plan there? Because you look back
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  Speaker 1: over the season, I think five different guys led the
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  Speaker 1: team in rushing. Suddenly, Estimate is inactive yesterday and Bedet
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  Speaker 1: hasn't played since September. But let's throw it back in
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  Speaker 1: there in a playoff game, like, what what were they
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  Speaker 1: up to with with that whole thing?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know this for certain yet, but
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  Speaker 4: I would just tell you my experience tells me there's
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  Speaker 4: too many chefs in the run game kitchen.
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  Speaker 3: They just got to pick a pick a lane.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I've been saying it, and you know, I
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  Speaker 4: don't you know, I don't want to puff up or anything,
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  Speaker 4: but I've been saying it for years. People were gonna
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  Speaker 4: figure out running against the nickel would win you a
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  Speaker 4: lot of games. And look at the best offenses in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs right now, Yep, what are they doing. They're
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  Speaker 4: pounding the crap out of people's nickel defenses. And the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos sack estimate yesterday and then they gave the day
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  Speaker 4: two carries. I mean, to me, that is just it's
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  Speaker 4: it's illogical. Either play the guy you sat him for
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  Speaker 4: or don't sit the guy. But they did both, which
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  Speaker 4: you know, and then they just you know, it continually
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  Speaker 4: amazes me. There are a lot of play callers, and
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton is one of them that I've seen so far.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Uh, they'll live with incomplete passes by the bucket,
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  Speaker 4: but you have one or two bad runs in a
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  Speaker 4: row and you don't see it again for two drives.
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  Speaker 4: And I saw one team stick to the run yesterday
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  Speaker 4: in a playoff game, and I saw one team not
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  Speaker 4: do it. And I look at time of possession and
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  Speaker 4: I know analytics. A lot of my analytics buddies like
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  Speaker 4: to tell me time and possession doesn't mean anything, and
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  Speaker 4: I would argue that.
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  Speaker 3: There are moments when it does.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, yeah, number place factor plays are pretty yesterday too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, when when you put a four in it,
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  Speaker 4: I think time possession matters.
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  Speaker 3: When it leads with a four, you are in trouble.
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  Speaker 5: Make you real quick, because we'll reconvene Friday and maybe
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  Speaker 5: we can have you can get some more intel on
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  Speaker 5: what's gonna happen in and outs and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Deonder.
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  Speaker 5: The Cowboys has apparently got some odds, some odds people
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  Speaker 5: looking at the books already. The Raiders apparently have made
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  Speaker 5: it clear that they're not interested in coach Prime. What
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  Speaker 5: do you think do you think there's a realistic shot
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  Speaker 5: Jerry Jones would look his way.
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  Speaker 6: With him being a popular cowboy, alum, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know that's gonna be the buzz.
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  Speaker 4: But I would ask you to look at who Jones
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  Speaker 4: is hired through the years. I don't believe he's hired
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  Speaker 4: anyone who doesn't have, you know, an awful lot of
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  Speaker 4: head coaching experience.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if Prime yet qualifies for that.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, especially the last you know, since he Jimmy, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: he's really wanted and the guys after Jimmy, he's wanted
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  Speaker 4: guys with NFL head coaching experience, and and they've all
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  Speaker 4: sort of fallen in that in that loop or guys
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  Speaker 4: who've worked for the team before.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Garrett had a long you know, the.
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  Speaker 4: Last guy he sort of took a chance on was
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  Speaker 4: Chan Gaily and that that didn't work out so great.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, uh, again, always a chance,
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  Speaker 4: but Jones has not not done that in the past.
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  Speaker 4: And look, you know, how would we know if if
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  Speaker 4: Dion Sanders would be interested in not calling the shots
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  Speaker 4: on personnel.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't know that.
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  Speaker 4: We know that he gets to do that in college. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you do not get to do that with the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 4: Which is why when I hear all these people tell
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  Speaker 4: me what a coveted job it is, I say, look
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  Speaker 4: at the postseason record and look how they run personnel.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think a real legitimate time head coaching
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  Speaker 4: Canadate is gonna take it without some kind of concession
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  Speaker 4: on Jerry Jones's part.
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  Speaker 6: That's funny.
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  Speaker 5: Troy Aikman just said the thing in the Monday night
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  Speaker 5: football pregame here so said it after the Adam Schefter report, you,
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  Speaker 5: Troy said, point blank saw it an awful announcing. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure if this is a coveted job anymore. The
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  Speaker 5: guy they played for, Jerry.
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  Speaker 4: So, I don't know how you can say it. If
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  Speaker 4: if the I mean, look at their well, how they've
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  Speaker 4: handled personnel. I mean it's it's, you know, the last
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  Speaker 4: time they've played a super meaningful playoff game.
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  Speaker 3: It's we were all a lot younger.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a while. Jeff wasn't even in the media.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Leggy, if if your buddy was has
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  Speaker 1: been fired fourteen times by Sean Payton. How many times
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  Speaker 1: have you quit the Correkman and lindahlh show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well not once. I'm intil the end.
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  Speaker 6: That makes me feel bad. I fired you three times
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  Speaker 6: this interview.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, hey, man, you get yourself some
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  Speaker 1: self respect, Leggy, come on, hey check your text there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, usually when I see the eye roll,
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  Speaker 3: I know it's coming. So I'm prepared.
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  Speaker 1: Visit ramos Law dot com. Leggy, good work. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to you Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if everybody needs any tips on how you
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  Speaker 4: do Buffalo, Orlando, Denver, I'm your guy.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you how to do it.
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  Speaker 6: So that's delightful. How much sleep have you had?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 6: You do it?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, at least they sent you to a warm destination
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  Speaker 5: before bringing you home.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little frosty in Buffalo this morning. They're
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  Speaker 4: lucky they didn't play the game today. I'll just say.
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  Speaker 1: That, all right. Well, I don't I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that would have helped her hurt. Jeff lakewold everyone ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: All right,