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Once Upon a Choir: Rabbi Nachman Seltzer's Harmonious Journey · None of Your Business Podcast

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  None of your business, Oshi. None of Your Business, Michael.
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  It's the None of Your Business podcast hosted by Michael
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  Anoshi. Welcome back everybody to
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  another amazing I have to find a good word for Hebrew in how do
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  you say in Hebrew Amazing Madhim Madhim Yashli podcast Madhim
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  Mayom been none of your business.
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  Welcome back everybody to another Mahim episode of the
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  None of Your Business podcast. We are so excited to be here in
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  Ramat Beit Shemesh. I'm here with two really good
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  friends that I went to 1st grade with, second grade with, 3rd
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  grade with, 4th grade with until one of them decided to move
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  there to stroll and leave yeshiva.
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  You went to a different yeshiva. I think we're here with, of
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  course, Rab Nachman Seltzer. It's so good to be here with you
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  and the Holy Land. To be with you, ah, it's
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  amazing. Great reunion.
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  Yes, amazing. And of course, Naftali Zelman,
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  Rev Neil Zelman. There we go.
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  I'm actually a little nervous. What are you nervous about?
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  I I haven't done this properly. You know, you're like a
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  professional. Rev Nachman is his, his world
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  renowned. You know his, everybody knows
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  his names. You know, he he's a speaker,
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  he's a writer. He's he's he.
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  Even was a soloist in Miami Boys.
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  That is true. Can you remind us which song it
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  was that you sang? OK two songs Manashimayim
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  animamim stop it it's menashimayim so that the song.
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  Sure, but I love that song. How the song animamim?
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  How does it go that? Wow, wow, wow, wow.
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  I'm this side regulator. And.
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  Miami experience Level 2. How'd that go?
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  That's all it was. Wow, you took your talents to
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  making actually a choir yourself around a decade ago, right?
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  So in 2005 the first album came out.
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  Wow. She wrote the best boys choir.
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  We That was more than a decade ago, then 2. 1005 it came out,
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  it came out. I had it for about 15 years.
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  Wow. Maybe it started a little
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  earlier. The first album came out 2005.
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  So we had it for 15 years. We had five albums.
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  We sag on the albums of many, many singers like Schwetke,
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  Lippa Gabei, Taska Berkelvi, AKA Pella Lataia, the Yankees
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  productions. It was like for a while it was
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  like every CD had the choir on it that like, like backing them
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  up. We did a lot of concerts.
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  It was. It was good.
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  But you know, they say Hebrew. I had Tova Tosha.
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  Yeah. It was.
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  It was good. It was good that it was good
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  that it was. So let's go back a little.
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  Let's go tell us a little about yourself like we like the time
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  mentioned. Catch us up a little bit.
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  It's been around 30-40 years. That's it.
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  What do you want to know? You asked me questions.
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  Like I said, when people call me back to look, ask me specific
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  questions. Now you're currently living in
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  arts, so I'm not bitchy. How did you get here?
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  Tell us how you got. Good.
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  So I left. I was at tour with us with you
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  guys till 4th grade. Pay stuff.
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  My parents put me at the Toshiba as a few other places until in
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  9th at the end of 9th grade, my bears with Terrence Stroll.
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  I was 14. My bears with Terrence Stroll.
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  I was here for a while Israeli Shiva first Israeli Shiva
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  Cortana, Then I went to American Shiva afterwards went back to
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  learn illiquid by Shia Treff. I get back.
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  I was in the mirror for 15 years, but every so Berkowitz it
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  got by his Koilos. Hello, Koilo, the Jerusalem
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  Koilo the 1st 10 over there. And yeah, that's that's the
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  learning part of it. So by that count, you've been
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  learning for about 75 years of your life, right?
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  You know what people used to say to me, parents would say, how
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  could I send my kids, let's say on trips and concerts?
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  And I would be like, listen, what are you worried about?
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  That he's going to miss Yeshivo. What we, we learned for the rest
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  of our lives, we're always going to learn.
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  But these are kind of experiences he's only going to
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  have now. So I would suggest letting him
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  have those experiences now 'cause they build people in a
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  major way and he will always learn and he'll, but I'll learn
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  better if you let him have these experiences now.
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  And I, I, I believe the kids are you had this.
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  I see the kids who came out of the choir with a lot of other
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  kids went to the choir and they're like consistently the
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  best in the yeshiva and it really did something very, very
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  good for them. So Barker.
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  So I've let him not have some saying these boys, they, a lot
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  of them are married now. He married and the really top.
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  Boys, I wanted to know music is a huge part of my life and I
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  started playing guitar five years ago and I hang out by
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  Rachel mccallabach and harmonuchas I was just there
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  this morning my you know, visiting my.
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  First three years it was brutal. He only knew like 3 songs you
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  have playlist just played over and over.
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  That's true. I do the same.
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  Lamana thighs, right? I mean, do you play?
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  Do you play an instrument? But you sing, sing, compose,
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  sing and compose, produce. I just never played.
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  Right, right, right. I'd love to play with you one
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  day. You know some of Schlumber
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  songs. What are some of your favorite
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  musics like? What genres do you enjoy in
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  terms of Jewish music? What do you like to listen to?
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  I like. Mammy boys.
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  Yeah, up until a certain point. Yeah, you.
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  Remember the plays they used to have?
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  I was in. You were in one of the plays.
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  On the road to Shaline. Mensch BMH.
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  BMH. Wow, that's amazing.
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  You turned out to be pretty big match over there.
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  Not what I got to tell you, you know, from, you know, you know,
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  you know, I tried out for Miami Boys Choir, by the way.
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  Yeah. He said I was too tall and my
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  vocal cords were going to change.
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  And I felt good about that excuse.
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  I was in 8th grade in Torvidas. No, you came late.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  It is pretty cool at being in Torvidas because they didn't
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  allow that to grow and gap for I didn't think she.
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  Right. I mean, hide him.
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  It was the Miami Boys. True, but we weren't allowed to
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  be in Miami. Boys Choir, weren't you?
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  Challenge. I didn't.
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  Tell the school stolen when I tried out OK so look let's go
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  back I tried out when I was in 3rd grade in turbidas.
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  Wow I tried out and at that time you're familiar with the the way
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  he tried out kids. So he tried us out in the in the
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  bar park. Why?
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  I remember. I love the bar park.
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  Why? I went there a lot.
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  Yeah, me too. We used to play dodgeball there,
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  I think. Yes, flaky and scars and then
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  and then ping pong upstairs afterwards.
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  So he tried. He had a piano as a hot day, the
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  fan of boys, big fan of the in the bar park Y and umm.
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  So each kid gets I was eight years old, 8-9 maybe and he and
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  he and he hits a note of the piano.
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  Then you have to sing La Ding la.
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  You have to hit the note. I had no idea what he wanted and
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  I didn't understand what he wanted from me.
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  What do you mean hit the No, I I I had no idea.
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  He wasn't saying sing a song. I didn't know.
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  I just that was it. I didn't get in.
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  He didn't say like sing a song. OK, I didn't get it.
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  So then I was very disappointed because I felt like I didn't
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  have a chance really to show him what I could do.
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  So OK, what can you do, right? I tried it again when I was 12.
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  I tried it again. This time I knew about this
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  hitting the note thing, but he didn't ask me to do it.
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  He said sing a song. So I sang his son and I got it
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  and I and then he's like, where were you all this time?
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  I'm like hello I tried it when I was 8.
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  You know, wow. And it didn't work out then, but
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  it was worth the wait. It was ominous, by the way, my
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  favorite album of life. I think it was most of the
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  people outraged. Their favorite album is going
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  to. Be one of those.
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  Every trip had that. Every trip.
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  That was a huge change for Jewish music.
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  Then why was like the first song that went viral if if like it
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  was, it was a hit? Like the idea of going viral?
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  Right keeps quiet with a song that just went everyone was
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  singing. It was like it came out and
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  suddenly everyone is singing. Sad that this month.
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  Remember it was the 4th album then the boys choir came out
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  with right? Wasn't the first album then
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  until they didn't have a song that that went viral.
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  That song. Went viral.
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  Good point. And suddenly everyone seemed to
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  satisfy it. And then when I got when I, I, I
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  got that album was a record, I think.
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  And and and then I, I said I I went back this far.
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  So I was every choir album that there was out there and I bought
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  them all. Apparently he was she lying to
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  Silla Zimmer. Do whatever I can get my hands
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  on. I And then that's what I and I
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  eventually tried out for the choir.
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  But that album had great songs. Chloe, Sally Ishlem, Ishlem
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  Mabal. Remember that song?
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  Some of my favorite, some of my favorite, probably my favorite
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  song. It's a great song.
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  I love the plays, I love the choreography.
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  I love the idea that people put their sweat and tears into
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  getting people to come to their concerts, not just coming and
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  singing and, you know, making an impact on people's lives.
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  I have to ask you, we we said the word viral and I just said
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  the word impact on people's lives.
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  What is the first book that you wrote?
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  I'm just going to jump right into it because you know, I
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  haven't seen you in so long, but I've seen your name everywhere.
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  I turn a lecture, a book, you know, something coming out
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  that's heartfelt, telling the proper story.
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  I see your name written everywhere.
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  So I'm so excited to get into this question with you because
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  what, what was that transition like?
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  What what first book or something that happened in your
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  life? Let's take that back a bit of
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  that. How did how did you get into
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  that? How did you say Someone Like You
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  who goes from Taravadas to Stalin, moving to Israel, right
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  selling now become a prolific writer, a well known writer that
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  that your books fly off the shelf A very well.
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  If you're an eloquent writer, you, you, you write very well.
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  It's high quality. How do you transition?
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  How did that happen? You know, it's just the that
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  this is this. Like, I have to say, I think
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  it's it's just like a natural thing.
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  A person loves reading, reads a lot and is naturally good at
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  writing. I was always good at writing
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  well, I want creative writing at Tarvidas every year.
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  I was good at it. I was sick of.
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  Doctor Dichman, I remember Mr. Dichman I.
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  Thought you were weak. I thought you bought Mr. Fink
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  his favorite Sunkist can of soda.
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  And that's why you won. You're telling me you had a
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  talent back then, too? Yeah.
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  I remember it's amazing. I, I could tell I was very
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  disappointed with one of my teachers because she didn't
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  stop. What I felt as a second grader
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  was godless in a, in a, in a composition.
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  She gave us the composition, which was if I was a Leaf.
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  So I wrote, if I was a Leaf, I would join the Miami Leafs
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  choir, which I felt was godless as a second grader.
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  She didn't get it. Maybe she, I don't know why she
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  didn't get it. Maybe she was a musical, right.
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  I was disappointed at her as a second grader for not tapping
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  how how great that was. She didn't get it.
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  Explain it to her now, if she's listening, all right.
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  Why is that great? Yeah, explains the depth of.
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  It's creative. It's great because you're you're
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  you're imagining Leafs having a choir.
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  It's great because you're a little kid.
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  I was seven years old and coming up with this type of metaphor.
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  She didn't appreciate your imagination again as a 7 year
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  old. Yeah, it was, it was.
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  Look, that's that's a good line. She they.
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  I think I, what I'm appreciating about you is how you take
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  something complex and you make it simple and you let that
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  simplicity with your imagination go wild.
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  And I think that's what I've been getting out of, you know,
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  researching you. I don't read by the way,
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  unfortunately. And I, and you know, I'm not
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  happy about it. I wish I was able to.
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  Maybe you can give me one of your books that you would
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  recommend I should start reading on.
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  But I, I. If you have a lot of pictures,
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  that's the 1 he wants. Thank you, Curious George, you
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  know preferred, but you know what would be a book that you
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  would recommend me to read that's.
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  Incredible. Why?
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  Because it's it's, it's a book that's very interesting.
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  That's the one Rabbi Wallace, right?
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  Yeah. It's a nonstop action.
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  It reads like a novel, but it's real.
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  It's it's larger than life. There's so many elements.
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  It's just classic literature and you would it has all the
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  elements inside that you would want to read in a book.
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  And it's real, so you feel like you're really gaming and it just
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  inspires you. There's so many good elements in
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  it. How long did it?
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  Take you to write that book for example.
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  It took a while because you said you saw Robbie Wallace as a busy
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  was a very busy man, huh? And to, you know, just getting
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  the information. But if someone wasn't busy like
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  another typical book, how long does it take to.
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  Get a person like, let's say 90 seconds with Ellie Beer.
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  Ellie Beer was very keen to get the book at.
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  So he like mapped off 2 1/2 weeks of his schedule.
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  I sat with him every day for a few hours when I wasn't
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  teaching, I wasn't learning, and I basically got all the
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  information in 2 1/2 weeks. Wow.
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  And then I took me 3 months to write the book.
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  That's amazing. How many books have you written
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  until now? So I published 50 books.
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  Wow. And I've written probably about
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  60 books, but not all of them are are out or some are in the
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  process and some won't come out because families don't want to
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  publish them. Interesting.
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  I chose not to put out whatever different things put out 60
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  give. Me an example of something that
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  you didn't put out or you're not putting out like.
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  So there was a novel I wrote and it was called The Challenge and
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  it was about a couple that couldn't have children and I was
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  the book was finished and then I was buying my Rebbe size for
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  missing Kaplan Schlito and his wife.
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  She passed through everything Kaplan.
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  She was there that she worked for Targum Press.
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  So at that time I was in Targum Press.
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  So she says to me new when you bring in the new book and I was
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  like, yeah, that's right, I'm coming in soon.
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  He Rebbe says, what is what's the book about?
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  I told him it's about a couple connect care of children.
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  And this is that he says, don't put a dog.
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  I'm like, what do we don't put it out.
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  He's like, no, you can't put it out.
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  It's too painful. You can't do it.
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  So, so his wife's like, what do you mean?
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  Everyone puts out books like this.
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  People put out books about people who can have children.
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  He says, let me ask you a question.
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  He says, start you have an ad to kind of who doesn't have
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  children? Would you interrupt?
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  It was Repti Koschlewski's first wife.
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  Would you bring it to talk to your aunt?
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  Would you bring out this book? And she said no.
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  He says, so why would you say put out a book?
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  You wouldn't bring it to your aunt?
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  Why would you say put out a book if it's going to hurt people?
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  So I'm less OK, fine. So that was the beginning of
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  that was chapter one. OK, fine, I can't put out
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  whatever you say, but I can't put out what's the point of
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  everybody? So I can list them, right.
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  OK, so then this goes on and on. I'm like, I called a time, I
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  called this one, I called that one, I called different
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  organizations and I'm like, you know, what do you think?
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  And they're like, oh, you can put it out.
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  Everyone said it's fine, don't worry.
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  You can put it out. Say I said I'm already this one
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  said that one said, but the only one, everyone says it's fine.
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  He goes, yes, but I care about you.
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  He says, don't put it out. I'm like, we're ready.
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  I put out. I I spent he's like, OK, don't
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  put it out. What do you need it for?
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  What do you need to have someone have a tightness on you?
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  What do you need it for? Like so then eventually I get
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  like a year later I was like, come on.
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  He says, OK, this is what we're going to do.
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  I have Tommy the take care of children.
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  We'll give it to them, let them read it.
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  What? Let's see what they say.
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  So we gave it to a couple and she goes like she says please
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  don't put this book out. She says if this book was in the
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  living room because Shabbos, I wouldn't be able to walk into
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  that room. Don't put it out.
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  It's too raw. It's too real.
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  Don't put it out. So I said, OK, I won't put it
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  out. I didn't put it out.
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  And that's. It wow, wow.
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  What kind of learning experience did that give you like through
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  that process and the? The main point is you got to
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  stay Rebbe. That's right, right As the baby,
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  we sit a black attitude. If you don't have Rebbe or
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  anything could happen. What a second.
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  What's your connection with like attitude?
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  Connection, but remember it when it came.
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  Out I love like how Mitch Levy and Josh Stryker yeah of course
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  the force of course on Greenspan the.
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  Harvard the other the pen they put on the filling every now and
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  then, the nice big house, white picket fence, traditional Jews,
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  nothing too intense of. Course, black attitude.
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  Do you remember that? Body in the last little bucket,
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  catch you later. The water ain't hot so shower
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  and I'm not OK. So anyways, that was the Nakuda,
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  my baby said. No, yeah.
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  And that's it. And it's, and it's there.
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  It's sitting on my computer. It's sitting on your computer.
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  You have like 10 of those types of.
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  Books not not like. No, but I'm saying that you
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  haven't published or different. Mainly family memoirs or
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  families who I wrote books, which are a lot of them are
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  great books and for whatever reason they either didn't get
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  around to it or chosen. Neil, you were asking about the
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  journey. Let's continue down that path.
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  I I like. How did you get into that?
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  What was your first book? The Edge, which is a movie, also
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  today with Bart Perlowitz. Wow, you.
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  Didn't know that. In fact, I mean, yeah, I it's
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  probably. It's it's one of the most
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  successful Jewish from Jewish movies.
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  That's that was that launched Perlowitz's career.
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  Amazing. That movie launched his career.
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  I believed in him a lot. I I felt he had what it takes to
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  become like a real a real like for our world and maybe further.
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  He's doing big things. He does.
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  He does real, real big budget productions today.
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  So I invested it. I bought him a drone that we
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  could use. Then the first Jewish movie.
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  They use a drone wow, underwater camera and we really like did.
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  It was a very cool. It was a very cool project.
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  Took us time that was that was based so that only came in eight
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  years later that that was the story started where Danny Shiva
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  and Kayla by Brookwitz told me a story that was real and I and I
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  liked the story a lot I said I'm going to write a novel based on
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  that story and I just jumped into it and.
• 17:09
  That was the first book you wrote or the first book, but but
• 17:11
  you went to a a press like take me to the business side of
• 17:14
  things. I'm just curious how that.
• 17:15
  Happened. Yeah, basically when I was a
• 17:17
  bucker. You remember Ari Friedman from
• 17:19
  Tarvidas? I don't.
• 17:20
  OK, so Ari Friedman was a friend of mine, was let's saw with the
• 17:22
  other Shiva. OK.
• 17:23
  And he he was related to Robin Moshe Dambi.
• 17:26
  He was the head of Targum Press. Remoshe Dambi.
• 17:28
  That's the way I I went for showers to the Dambi family in
• 17:30
  our north. And Friday night we're talking
• 17:32
  and I and I told them what I spoke about a lot of the books
• 17:35
  that Targum Press published over the years.
• 17:37
  I was familiar with them. Arabi Dambi said if you ever
• 17:39
  write a book, come to me. So I wrote my first book.
• 17:42
  I went to to Targum Press. And then buxom, they published
• 17:46
  it and that was it. So if someone wants to publish a
• 17:49
  book, you got to find the press first, right?
• 17:51
  The company that will actually publish it for you and they take
• 17:54
  the risk in terms of printing and they go to.
• 17:56
  Then some publishers, most publishers today, may ask you to
• 17:59
  invest. Invest in the book if they if
• 18:01
  they don't know you or you don't have a reputation yet.
• 18:03
  Art school, it's, it's based on merit.
• 18:06
  It's really like art school's more if it's a good book,
• 18:08
  meaning that's why everyone knows.
• 18:09
  If they're not, it's an art school book.
• 18:11
  It's not a vanity press. The other publishers will do
• 18:14
  books that they don't necessarily believe in because
• 18:17
  they they do, you know, they'll do a few pay for it, They'll
• 18:20
  they'll put it out. I still doesn't do that.
• 18:22
  Wow, it's there. It's really based on the merit
• 18:24
  of the book. You don't have social media,
• 18:26
  right? You don't.
• 18:27
  You don't have WhatsApp. I don't think you even have
• 18:29
  texts because I texted you the other day.
• 18:31
  I do. Have I do have a LinkedIn page?
• 18:33
  There are LinkedIn page. Your communication is through
• 18:36
  e-mail. How do you know how your books
• 18:37
  are doing? Do you get reports?
• 18:39
  I get numbers. You get numbers, but you don't
• 18:40
  get to see what people are seeing out there in the social
• 18:42
  media world like. You know, I know it's going.
• 18:47
  You get to see what happened, you know what time it is so.
• 18:50
  I don't know if you realize, you know, he glossed over it
• 18:52
  quickly, But besides being a writer, you had mentioned that
• 18:55
  you, you learned you're a Rebbe, right?
• 18:57
  Right. So your schedule is not just,
• 19:00
  you know, basically just writing books all day.
• 19:02
  You have a full daily schedule. I I go to I go to a belly.
• 19:06
  I boxed them. That is a close to be one of
• 19:08
  them. We asked to move Belly's the
• 19:09
  fast because they feel me. Sure, as that's a big as a
• 19:12
  close, but how's that? That's a seems like a great
• 19:15
  experience. I'm guessing you're going to
• 19:17
  write a book about him one day. Maybe it's a possibility.
• 19:19
  It's a possibility. Neil I like that idea.
• 19:22
  By the way, I'm thinking someone should write a book about.
• 19:24
  It I'm already thinking that it's in our progress.
• 19:27
  It's not. It's not I.
• 19:28
  Talked about it many times. We'll see what happens.
• 19:29
  Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm sorry, I have to cut off for a second and
• 19:33
  ask this question because we're holding you there, right?
• 19:35
  You want to write a book about someone, right?
• 19:37
  Robbie Stefanski, for example. What do you need to write that
• 19:41
  book? What?
• 19:41
  How do? You and I would I would have to
• 19:42
  sit down with him and just I mean, I know first of all, I
• 19:45
  know pretty much all the stories by now.
• 19:47
  I spent a lot of time with him too.
• 19:49
  Sure, like he Shabbos and sure he sat next to me in my benching
• 19:52
  room up at Shabbos. He moved out straw.
• 19:53
  He sat next to me in my in my soul.
• 19:55
  So, so I know him very well, right.
• 19:58
  And I know a lot of his stories. I know a lot of of his.
• 20:01
  So that makes the process. Easy.
• 20:02
  I would have to sit with him and really go through his whole life
• 20:05
  and then interview a lot of the people that their lives were
• 20:09
  changed because of the share. Like you'll see Klein and like
• 20:12
  Mark Ashkenazi and Uncle Phil and then and Fischel from
• 20:15
  Baltimore. And it may be Ako Citroen and,
• 20:17
  and a lot of people whose lives were, were, were changed and
• 20:21
  the, and the guys who helped like Avi Kamiadski, you know,
• 20:23
  fixed and just there's so many people and the main stories.
• 20:27
  I would have to get those stories also because that's part
• 20:28
  of the story. So part of your writing a book
• 20:30
  is doing that research and interviewing a lot of those.
• 20:33
  Would be a big project. It wouldn't just be sitting with
• 20:35
  one person because there's so many people that were impacted
• 20:39
  by MVY and it would be a huge project.
• 20:41
  So we'll see what happens. We'll see.
• 20:43
  You're saying it wouldn't be 8 minutes?
• 20:44
  This would be like it would be like 90. 98 a lot, 90 days, you
• 20:50
  know. But you know, it's, it's a big
• 20:51
  project, so we'll see what happens with that.
• 20:55
  I like, I like that video. It's we, it's it's been under
• 20:58
  discussion. We'll see.
• 21:01
  Interesting. So you're now living in arts to
• 21:03
  stroll for now. What is it 40?
• 21:06
  13 to 46 so. It's about 40 years, close to 40
• 21:09
  years, 35 years, right, Right. What?
• 21:13
  How has that experience been like?
• 21:14
  Right. It's a solid best I I give a
• 21:17
  muscle. Living in America is like living
• 21:19
  in black and white, living in arts, and so is like living in
• 21:22
  color. That's the difference.
• 21:24
  You know what I mean? It's not about work here.
• 21:27
  People do work some days, but it's not about that's not the
• 21:30
  focus of their lives. Plenty of people feel good about
• 21:33
  themselves in it, so don't work at all.
• 21:35
  It's not about money here. It's not how you're measured,
• 21:39
  it's just a different experience.
• 21:40
  I. Want you to know that we just
• 21:41
  experienced this ourselves. We went.
• 21:43
  We were told about the best falafel in Israel.
• 21:46
  You know how many times have people told you the best rules?
• 21:48
  Yeah, of course. Yeah.
• 21:49
  You have yours. He has his.
• 21:51
  Which one is yours? Which one is yours?
• 21:53
  What did they tell you? Around the corner from your
• 21:55
  apartment, that Ethiopian, that Tamani guy.
• 21:57
  That Tamani falafel on I know that's some that's another
• 22:02
  person that's Heshi's favorite I.
• 22:03
  Know over the view called Vanavi.
• 22:05
  There's another favorite. At the corner where is.
• 22:07
  There's this say money guy. There's.
• 22:09
  Another favorite? Say summary some rabbi great
• 22:11
  from the old. Great story, just happened to
• 22:13
  us. Another favorite that's in the
• 22:14
  Buharian shook a guy who's been around for, I think his father
• 22:17
  started it been around before the country's been.
• 22:19
  Around the secret of his oil of his thing is what is that
• 22:21
  changes the oil? That's the secret.
• 22:24
  I believe that Department of Health doesn't have entrance to
• 22:27
  that store. And we're in that falafel store
• 22:30
  and we're five American people from Muncie, you know, some from
• 22:34
  Queens, some from Lakewood, right?
• 22:36
  And we're all coming and we're hungry and it's 2:00 in the
• 22:38
  afternoon and we call some of our friends in America and we're
• 22:40
  saying, what's the name of that store that you said has the best
• 22:43
  falafel in your Shaline? The guy says, oh, you got to go
• 22:46
  to the, the, the shook over there.
• 22:48
  The Muharian shook in that area. I mean, it points us in the
• 22:50
  direction and we're excited and we, you know, we, we start
• 22:54
  walking there, we go into the falafel store and the guy just
• 22:58
  made a beautiful falafel and he's about to hand it to someone
• 23:01
  and we say, Shalom, we want 5 falafels, please.
• 23:04
  He goes, I'm finished. Really.
• 23:07
  What do you mean you finished? It's 2:30.
• 23:10
  What do you mean you finished goes Zehu slitha and I'm not
• 23:13
  selling any more falafel. We say one guy pulls out $100
• 23:17
  and he says $100. He goes you could have
• 23:20
  $1,000,000. I'm not making falafel.
• 23:23
  Every morning I come with a specific amount.
• 23:27
  When I finish this amount, I go home and I learn and I be with
• 23:31
  my family every day. This guy tells us he makes the
• 23:34
  same exact amount of falafel that he needs to have Parnasa to
• 23:39
  have enough of a living for him and his family and there is no
• 23:43
  way to for him to make more falafel.
• 23:45
  So my friend turns to the guy that just bought a falafel for
• 23:48
  20 sheckel and he gave him $100 for that falafel.
• 23:53
  And the owner was so like overwhelmed with this.
• 23:56
  He didn't know what to do with himself.
• 23:57
  First we were overwhelmed with his response and now he's going
• 24:00
  crazy saying you're going to pay $100 for that falafel, like, and
• 24:03
  the guy didn't know what to do with the guy was buying it
• 24:04
  because he needs the money. And he's like, wow, that's a lot
• 24:06
  of money. Ends up the guy felt so good
• 24:10
  about the idea that we were willing to give money to a guy
• 24:13
  just he ended up making us more falafel.
• 24:16
  And we all sat down and had falafel.
• 24:18
  We had the best time. And I have to tell you, the best
• 24:20
  falafel, I'm kidding. You know, it's, you know, it is.
• 24:24
  But I agree with you. The idea of seeing color.
• 24:26
  Look, Neil and I were in Israel together.
• 24:28
  You know, when we were teenagers, we experienced the
• 24:32
  color. And when we're here, we
• 24:34
  experienced the color too. And it's a beautiful thing and
• 24:38
  you know, you, you sort of like took that color and you it, it
• 24:41
  radiates, it's, you see it shining, right?
• 24:45
  Like I look at you and I see almost like the colors of a
• 24:47
  rainbow coming out of you. And I see that holiness and that
• 24:50
  beauty. And I have to tell you something
• 24:52
  that, you know, yes, you know, we had our fun in the 2nd, 3rd,
• 24:55
  4th grade. But you know, coming to see
• 24:58
  someone so many years later and seeing the growth and feeling
• 25:01
  that energy, knowing that you have eliminated social media
• 25:05
  completely from your life, even though you're in a world that
• 25:08
  helps in a way with social media, But it's not that
• 25:11
  doesn't, you know, make or break who you are.
• 25:14
  You're very adamant about your values.
• 25:16
  And I think that's something also that I think that the
• 25:18
  colors that shine in Israel is that you see that people have
• 25:21
  values and they put their values.
• 25:23
  Look, if we're honest, we all, we, we all know that we don't
• 25:26
  really need social media. It's a really more of a
• 25:28
  distraction than a help, honestly.
• 25:31
  This is, it's really a distraction that distracts
• 25:33
  people for life. I believe in quality of life
• 25:35
  over, you know, the benefits of the social media.
• 25:38
  Yeah, Yeah, that's true. That's simple.
• 25:41
  What would you tell someone that's thinking about their
• 25:44
  married, they have kids or they don't even have children yet?
• 25:46
  They're thinking about it. They want to come here, but they
• 25:49
  constantly hear how hard it is. It's difficult.
• 25:51
  It's not easy. Whatever, whatever, whatever it
• 25:53
  is, whether it's Parnasa, but that's not the.
• 25:55
  Truth. Today, there's so many rich
• 25:56
  people in it as well. So many.
• 25:59
  There's so much money here. You're saying the challenge is
• 26:03
  not there. It's.
• 26:03
  Not what it was definitely. Look, when when I was little,
• 26:06
  you had to go to America and buy things.
• 26:07
  Didn't have it. What don't you have it?
• 26:10
  You're saying I don't have to bring in tuna fish anymore?
• 26:13
  You might have to bring Entenmann's Donuts.
• 26:14
  Think. About it think about it people
• 26:16
  didn't used to live in nice houses people live in nice
• 26:19
  houses, darn nice houses Rama Bishal, there's many nice homes
• 26:23
  right you shall lie any nice homes you can live in a
• 26:27
  beautiful house and you can learn tyro and you can have a
• 26:31
  barnoso and you can work in America or work today anywhere
• 26:34
  in the world It didn't COVID. I think COVID told us that you
• 26:37
  don't have to be somewhere you could be anywhere and then to I
• 26:40
  learned a lot of things in COVID.
• 26:42
  I live that I could leave my old neighbour that I lived in 21
• 26:44
  years and move somewhere else because it's not about your
• 26:47
  neighbours or your friends. It's about.
• 26:50
  Your family does anything that happen.
• 26:51
  And, you know, I like your question because, you know, it's
• 26:53
  something that I get a lot about, you know, moving to
• 26:56
  Israel, making aliyah. My daughter asks me all the
• 26:58
  time. I think start off when you're.
• 27:02
  Young It's different than moving when your kids are older and
• 27:04
  nobody says it's a good idea to move when your kids.
• 27:06
  Are older. That's not good.
• 27:09
  Move when your kids are young, or don't or move later.
• 27:12
  Don't move when they're, you know, once they're eight years
• 27:14
  old that you know that's. The well, that's the I think the
• 27:17
  answer to your question what you were asking me all so you're
• 27:19
  but. If you want to start in it, so
• 27:20
  why not go for it again, the Nakuta's like this.
• 27:24
  If you want to live here and you want to work, you need a ready
• 27:27
  to be much near yourself to to be part of the system.
• 27:31
  Don't come here with your American ideas and be like I I
• 27:34
  don't agree with the school. You want to get kids to be
• 27:36
  happy, then that means you need to you need to support the
• 27:39
  system. They need to send them to
• 27:40
  regular Israeli schools and be like, yes, I buy into this and
• 27:43
  then they'll buy into it, 'cause you buy into it.
• 27:45
  So you have to if you read if you want that.
• 27:48
  So you need to actually buy into.
• 27:49
  It So you're saying I shouldn't wait until like Evergreen or
• 27:51
  pomegranate open up in Israel? But you don't need that anymore,
• 27:54
  that is true. You have a place called hating
• 27:56
  in radish arm it's spelled. You don't need people stores.
• 27:59
  We have here in Mapacharsh, Kiddish and and and the
• 28:02
  Krausses. What do you do about the
• 28:05
  challenge with the army? Which for which?
• 28:08
  In terms of your children that have to serve in the army.
• 28:11
  You see what they get all you get up it.
• 28:13
  Happens. Is that a challenge today?
• 28:16
  Is that is that something that? You actually learning an issue,
• 28:18
  then then it's not a challenge. A challenge if you're not a
• 28:21
  issue. Or maybe, but if you're not a
• 28:23
  receiver, then you're not a receiver.
• 28:25
  I'm talking about somebody's in yeshiva will not have a hard
• 28:26
  time not being in the army, right?
• 28:29
  If you're not in yeshiva like. You should go to the army.
• 28:31
  I'm not getting into that. I'm saying if you're not using
• 28:33
  your Shiva, that's a different situation.
• 28:34
  I'm not getting. Into that, yeah, yeah, that make
• 28:37
  that definitely makes sense. You know, you ever go into your
• 28:40
  shalam, you travel back and forth are you teaching your
• 28:43
  shalam? Yeah.
• 28:43
  Who do you what kind of age group do?
• 28:45
  You teach in in seminaries, a bunch of seminars.
• 28:47
  Oh wow, yeah. Very nice, stay there and there
• 28:51
  at least twice a week. You may you may have spoken to
• 28:54
  Ferret, which is my daughter's summit.
• 28:56
  Oh, you teaching to ferret? Yeah, every Thursday.
• 28:58
  Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:00
  So she's. She must have.
• 29:02
  No, she was there. She's now married.
• 29:04
  She's now married and lives in Jerusalem two years ago.
• 29:08
  Yeah, yeah. That's amazing.
• 29:10
  That's a very impactful time when people are in seminary.
• 29:13
  Shiva, right. I'm saying people who are, you
• 29:16
  know, being sort of like I've heard from my friends, I have
• 29:19
  some friends in America that are frustrated by it actually
• 29:21
  without their by the idea that their kids come back home and
• 29:24
  they don't want to come back home.
• 29:25
  And they say I want to live in Israel.
• 29:26
  I want to stay in Israel. There are parents that say, no,
• 29:28
  you got to come first back to New York.
• 29:30
  You got to 1st go through college and then you can think
• 29:33
  about. It look I'm not into College in
• 29:34
  the 1st place. He's talking to the wrong
• 29:36
  person. I believe going to college is
• 29:38
  for unless you're going for a specific career, like you're a
• 29:40
  lawyer or a doctor that I, I, I believe it's really a waste of
• 29:44
  time. And especially what we see on
• 29:46
  college campuses today. They're not a place for anyone
• 29:49
  to be maybe to a college. I guess if you go to college, at
• 29:51
  least go to a from college, right.
• 29:52
  But if you go to a geisha college to an Ivy League
• 29:55
  college, it's the opposite of the education.
• 29:58
  It's a terrible place to be after semitism and the heads of
• 30:01
  colleges can't even say that it's wrong to they can't even
• 30:04
  stand up for the the most obvious.
• 30:06
  No, it's just terrible. Now it's Poison Ivy League.
• 30:09
  I don't say joke. Oh my gosh, by the he Neil has
• 30:12
  amazing puns. Sometimes they're in his head
• 30:14
  and sometimes they come out. And when they come out, they're,
• 30:16
  they're good. So, yeah, college is like, you
• 30:18
  know, yeah. What do you, what do you, what
• 30:20
  do you do? You said that you go to college
• 30:22
  for what? For four years to get what?
• 30:23
  What did they get out of it? One week in business.
• 30:25
  Actually, we'll teach them more than four years in Business
• 30:28
  School. Right, It's, it's, it's a good
• 30:32
  point. It is a good point.
• 30:33
  It's true. There, there is one thing that I
• 30:35
  will say that college does give, I think in my opinion is that it
• 30:38
  gives you a, it creates especially, you know, like you
• 30:40
  said, if you go to one of these Jewish colleges, it gives you
• 30:43
  the ability to create a network within the business world,
• 30:46
  which, you know, sometimes helps people.
• 30:48
  But I there are people you know, it could be what else bothers
• 30:52
  you. Doesn't bother me, I'm just
• 30:53
  telling you it's not like I have a pet peeve.
• 30:56
  No, no, no. I'm just saying.
• 30:57
  I just don't think it. I think it's a complete con.
• 30:59
  Yeah, I think it's a con that the miracles somehow managed to
• 31:02
  brainwash people. They have to send you kids to
• 31:04
  college. It's a con that I see them.
• 31:06
  Don't they make way more money than people go to college.
• 31:10
  So you make a Panusa, make business.
• 31:13
  It's not business. They make way more money.
• 31:15
  Right, right. They're doing something right,
• 31:17
  that's for sure. It's called being smart thing
• 31:19
  out-of-the-box and understanding business.
• 31:21
  That's the way it it's, you know, it's just the way.
• 31:24
  Our life teaches us. Learning tomorrow enhances that
• 31:28
  your brain and your your thinking, your thought process.
• 31:31
  That doesn't necessarily require you to go to college for you to
• 31:33
  expand your your your understanding and knowledge.
• 31:37
  Your college stifles you. It stifles you.
• 31:39
  One of the rules in writing, for what I understand, I looked this
• 31:42
  up, it said if it is not to go to A to a course in writing
• 31:47
  because they will stifle the unique voice, they will give you
• 31:51
  the rules, but it's much better to have the unique voice that
• 31:55
  comes from inside you, which you're doing on your own without
• 31:58
  somebody telling you how to think or how to talk or how to.
• 32:00
  I'm curious, by the way, did anyone ever want to write a book
• 32:02
  about you? Stop.
• 32:04
  No, seriously, I'm curious. Did anyone ever ask you?
• 32:07
  I my standard answer to when people say what are they going
• 32:10
  to write a book about USA, I'm not interested.
• 32:13
  I just know. Interesting.
• 32:13
  OK, but let's say someone was to write a book about you.
• 32:15
  Who? Who would it be?
• 32:16
  Who? Would they write a book?
• 32:17
  About you Who would you be honored?
• 32:19
  You want author to be. Why would somebody write a book
• 32:21
  because they like books about people?
• 32:23
  Stop me. I I used to write books about
• 32:24
  people. So you, you have a pretty, you
• 32:27
  know, busy schedule, right? You have a lot going on.
• 32:29
  You know, you get the books, you have the teaching.
• 32:31
  Good, good. Is there another venture?
• 32:33
  Is there something that you're thinking, you're itching to do
• 32:35
  that you're thinking? About something right now.
• 32:37
  Oh. I can't it's it says.
• 32:41
  Please, I I think I don't tell me you're opening up a seltzer
• 32:43
  company. Can I tell you something funny?
• 32:46
  The Revnak Seltzer Company. There we go.
• 32:49
  We're on some. I want, I want a piece of this
• 32:51
  action over here. I'm just telling right now.
• 32:52
  You know what I'm saying? Do you?
• 32:54
  Yeah, sure. I don't know what I'm going.
• 32:57
  He might need an investment first night.
• 32:58
  Grandfather was a Seltzer man. Stop it.
• 33:02
  Old fashioned Are the blue bottles?
• 33:03
  Yes, but that was my mother's father.
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  I thought his daughter went and married someone named Seltzer.
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  How do you like that? Would you look at that?
• 33:11
  Would you look at that? Wow.
• 33:14
  Grab the daddy. Wow.
• 33:15
  So I, Neil, I like your question and by the way, I'm loving you
• 33:18
  as a partner in the None of Your Business podcast.
• 33:20
  And I'm going to make a quick plug because.
• 33:22
  You never let me speak this much before.
• 33:24
  Something I've learned over the past five years of eliminating
• 33:28
  social media from my life is to learn to listen to people.
• 33:30
  To be honest, it's something that I've been working on and
• 33:33
  so. Can I get something off my
• 33:33
  chest? Now I'm just letting.
• 33:36
  Please do I have to just make a quick mention because without
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  the the good people and good partners and the good family
• 33:43
  over at prime source, none of this can be possible.
• 33:45
  So thank you again, prime source for helping sponsor the none of
• 33:47
  your business podcast. Neil, having you as a Co host as
• 33:51
  a guest together with my guest Rav Nachman is making me so
• 33:55
  happy here right now, especially if she's going to watch this and
• 33:58
  is even like, Oh my God, Neil is pretty good at this.
• 34:00
  I want him to get nervous. So that's a that's a good thing.
• 34:04
  But I like your question where you're going with it.
• 34:05
  So what is the new project, Neil?
• 34:07
  Great question. Just look, it's really in its in
• 34:10
  its opening stages. Yeah, I did the project is a
• 34:15
  universal type of children's. It's it's universal for
• 34:20
  children, not just the Jewish children.
• 34:22
  It's something that a lot of books at the media, but it's
• 34:27
  like a whole creating a whole new set of characters and it
• 34:30
  just basically eschofically the Seder.
• 34:36
  So 'cause there's a whole world out there of people who do not
• 34:41
  trust the media, cannot find books for their children, have a
• 34:45
  very hard time letting the kids watch anything because they're
• 34:48
  they'll even if they're not Jewish, they don't want the kids
• 34:50
  exposed to to work ideology. So basically I'm in the process
• 34:54
  of creating and I'll and you know, something very, very
• 34:58
  beautiful, which is story. It's a great, it's great
• 35:01
  stories, but it's all again, it's not Jewish, but that's the
• 35:04
  idea behind it. It's which has potential to be
• 35:07
  actually very, very big and we'll see where it goes, but.
• 35:10
  Yeah, actually pretty interesting.
• 35:12
  I could see how something like that is is interesting to not
• 35:16
  only the from population, but obviously broader than that that
• 35:19
  I fully understand that a lot of confusing confusing, you know,
• 35:23
  the children is is not a healthy.
• 35:25
  There's a lot of people who are there.
• 35:27
  We were or tried to build alternatives to Disney today.
• 35:30
  The Ben Shapiro's doing it and there's a lot of people are
• 35:33
  doing it and yeah, so it's a very interesting thing and I.
• 35:37
  Have to tell you, when my kids were younger, I used the website
• 35:40
  calledcommonsensemedia.com and before I let them watch a movie
• 35:46
  or read a book, I used to go there.
• 35:48
  It's terrible how it would describe everything that's not
• 35:53
  rated G that goes on in the show or the movie and then after a
• 35:57
  while you notice that there is nothing that's entertaining and
• 36:00
  that's educating and that's growth oriented.
• 36:03
  That's rated G It it just doesn't exist.
• 36:06
  That's what that's amazing. Do you have a name for it yet?
• 36:11
  I I don't want to see I'm not no.
• 36:12
  Because we can strategize here. Because.
• 36:15
  Because I have a name for it. Yeah, I have name characters.
• 36:19
  Oh, wow. Pitch deck books.
• 36:22
  I have a lot beautiful. We have a lot of it.
• 36:24
  We're we're we're in well into it.
• 36:27
  But I I I'm not going to be I'm not going to be my name is not
• 36:31
  going to be on it because I'm it's not for the firm world.
• 36:34
  Got it. So it's not going to be
• 36:35
  something which I'm publicly in. Ah, this can be a pseudonym.
• 36:38
  Yeah, for the first time. Like it?
• 36:41
  What would be a name for him that you would pick?
• 36:43
  Nick Bubbly. I'm liking this.
• 36:49
  You, you can't. He can't let go of the whole
• 36:51
  seltzer. That's actually funny.
• 36:52
  I told you, there's a lot. There's a lot of things.
• 36:54
  Going on there, I was in Dora Goldie.
• 36:55
  I was the council of Dora Goldie and Daddy Stone is a rabbi to
• 36:58
  the used to call me Spritz. What's up?
• 36:59
  Spritz? That's that's a college threat.
• 37:02
  Daddy Style is a good friend of mine, by the way, and I also was
• 37:04
  in Dora Goldie, so we may have bumped heads and and or you
• 37:07
  know. Mad, you know, in 2002 thousand.
• 37:09
  No, no. Before.
• 37:10
  Before, yeah, yes. But that those were good
• 37:13
  experiences, Alex. Gold, Alex.
• 37:15
  Gold. That's right.
• 37:16
  That's right. So I'm sure you get pitch
• 37:19
  stories all the time and especially your your, I think
• 37:22
  your last book that came out, what was it was the after the
• 37:26
  October. I just have to mention I did not
• 37:30
  read it because like I mentioned earlier, but I get such great
• 37:33
  stories that people tell me because I always ask people to
• 37:35
  tell me the stories that they read and very impactful stuff
• 37:39
  and amazing the feedback. It was amazing.
• 37:42
  And it's very difficult. You know, when we're going in
• 37:45
  Jerusalem now and we're going around and we're seeing things
• 37:47
  that are happening, it's very difficult to describe to people
• 37:49
  what we're seeing and what we're feeling.
• 37:51
  And you know, I know that you did a great job in doing that.
• 37:55
  Yes, I can. I can only imagine that you've
• 37:57
  had stories come to you like some wild stories that you
• 38:00
  haven't put down pen to paper yet.
• 38:02
  You know, over the last we were here, actually, both of us.
• 38:04
  We were here during October 7th. We were here that day.
• 38:06
  And over the last year, we've come back many times.
• 38:09
  And each time we come back, we say, you know, you know, maybe
• 38:13
  maybe we're, you know, we're, we're not.
• 38:16
  Maybe we're just taking away from, you know, from what
• 38:19
  they're doing, their focus. And we realize every time we
• 38:20
  hear and we see a soldier, we see a family member, we see just
• 38:23
  an average Israeli, they're so happy to see us.
• 38:26
  They, they get physic from, from us coming here and, and, and
• 38:30
  showing our appreciation, our support, showing that we're not
• 38:32
  afraid. And it actually gives us physic.
• 38:36
  You know, just last night, soldiers are hugging us after
• 38:39
  they're coming back from Lebanon after spending a month and then
• 38:42
  singing atrocities, right? And they're hugging us and
• 38:45
  they're saying thank you. And meanwhile we're walking away
• 38:47
  crying, you know, after, after they're, you know, so thankful
• 38:51
  for us being there. Is there a story that you that
• 38:55
  you heard or that you haven't, you haven't written about, or
• 38:58
  maybe that you never would? Only just because it's it's raw,
• 39:01
  it's real, it's painful. Something that that that's but
• 39:04
  is really ultimately inspirational.
• 39:06
  Something that inspired. Us you October 7th.
• 39:08
  It could be anything, it could be anything.
• 39:10
  You have all that there. Was a story years ago and I
• 39:12
  heard which I never which I wrote and I never published that
• 39:15
  because it was, it was way too, it was way too hard.
• 39:18
  It was terrible. Do you mind sharing that?
• 39:19
  Story nutshell, because I don't want I really it is a very crazy
• 39:24
  story, but basically the idea of the story was there was this kid
• 39:26
  that she was brought. She was born into a normal
• 39:29
  family and from the time she was little, like her parents treated
• 39:32
  her terribly as opposed to all the rest of the kids.
• 39:35
  They made us in the basement and they and then when she got
• 39:38
  older, they they married off to an alcoholic and then she got
• 39:41
  and then he left her and then they gave her a get and her kids
• 39:44
  left her. And then like it was like a
• 39:46
  terrible, terrible story, but personally just had the worst
• 39:50
  life in the world and she couldn't, she didn't know why,
• 39:53
  like she wasn't a bad person, right.
• 39:55
  So why, like why did her parachute do this way?
• 39:58
  Why did her husband leave her? Why did her kids say we don't
• 40:01
  want anything to do with you and go back to our family and not
• 40:04
  and she didn't know why. And eventually she she went to a
• 40:08
  I'm a Kubel, what was actually pretty famous.
• 40:10
  And she asked him. She told him the story.
• 40:12
  She's like, you know what's going on over here?
• 40:15
  And he said he and he did a shitless cover to to fight, to
• 40:19
  try to understand. And he came back to her and he's
• 40:21
  like, listen, he says, whatever, 100 years ago there was a family
• 40:25
  that lived in a certain place and they had and they were
• 40:28
  beautiful family, a front family.
• 40:30
  And they had this kid who who just one day went off and
• 40:33
  married a guy. And she was very happy with her
• 40:35
  husband and she had kids, beautiful family.
• 40:38
  And it is, you know, kids were baptized at the church and she
• 40:42
  never the truer and she died happy.
• 40:44
  She started happy. You know, she didn't never the
• 40:47
  truer and her parents told Korea over her.
• 40:49
  So he said when she came to Shamiam, they didn't know what
• 40:53
  to do with her. So what do we do with this
• 40:54
  person? She lived her whole life as a
• 40:56
  guy. She never did the shoe room.
• 40:58
  What do we do with her? They said we're going to send
• 41:00
  her back, but the whole life, the opposite of what happened to
• 41:04
  her last time. Like this time she had a husband
• 41:07
  who loved her. Now her husband's going to leave
• 41:09
  her and I'll go now. Her kids loved her.
• 41:12
  This time her children are going to leave her and want nothing to
• 41:14
  do with her. She had parents who loved her.
• 41:16
  Her parents are going to want nothing to do with her and treat
• 41:18
  her terribly. This is going to be though me
• 41:21
  though connecting me the situation of this person who
• 41:23
  made such bad choices. This is what she needs in order
• 41:26
  to to do to have a rectification.
• 41:29
  So she said to her to her, she like said, what am I supposed to
• 41:31
  do? You know, that's it.
• 41:34
  I'm for all the Twitter now stuck.
• 41:36
  He said no, he said, I'm going to give you he said when a
• 41:39
  person who lives with a guy the Maist the day after he said
• 41:43
  really abuel Cabala 1800 consecutive fasts basically, but
• 41:50
  it's too much today. So every Wednesday you'll fast
• 41:54
  every Wednesday you'll fast. She said six weeks later, as she
• 41:57
  had a phone call in her house, had her kids called her up and
• 41:59
  they wanted to see her again. And then she started buying fish
• 42:02
  house to their houses and and and everything started changing.
• 42:06
  So that was like, I wrote this story.
• 42:07
  I never published it because I wrote it with all the details.
• 42:09
  It was it's the most the craziest story and it's a great
• 42:14
  story, but it's the people when people, some people it, it
• 42:16
  triggers them because they say, oh, they look at things in their
• 42:19
  life. They're like, oh, so you're
• 42:20
  telling me I was basically a rusher last time around.
• 42:22
  Like, no, it's not telling you that this was a crazy case.
• 42:26
  This was really a person who did everything wrong, the worst
• 42:28
  things you could do. No, most people aren't like
• 42:30
  that. Most people have specific things
• 42:32
  they need to fix. Not everything, you know, I
• 42:34
  wouldn't say, but it is something to think about.
• 42:36
  Like it's not like it's we do what we want and then we come to
• 42:39
  shaman and it's like, oh, it's not a big deal.
• 42:40
  It's a big deal. Like it's your mind.
• 42:42
  They actually know what we did is a print out and and we have
• 42:45
  to answer for what we did and we do as we have to keep that in
• 42:48
  mind. So I used to share it.
• 42:49
  Some places they do share it. Some places they don't share it
• 42:51
  depending on on the reactions they get from the from different
• 42:53
  students that are. That's a crazy source that I've
• 42:55
  abolished. I figured it out.
• 42:57
  In your previous life you were a proofreader and now in your new
• 43:01
  life you cannot read a book. I told you some things need to
• 43:04
  stay in your head. I have to tell you that hearing
• 43:10
  these types of stories and hearing a lot of your stories
• 43:13
  that you've had, that you've written, that I've heard in the
• 43:14
  past, to me, there's been a common theme.
• 43:18
  It's the understanding that everything happens for a reason
• 43:21
  and just seeing that go through your life.
• 43:24
  I always tell people it's a blessing when you see something
• 43:28
  that happened to you that may have been perceived as not so
• 43:30
  good, but then you notice a few years later, perhaps like, oh,
• 43:34
  it was the best thing that ever happened to me.
• 43:35
  You know you had that that happened in your life like.
• 43:38
  People. Right.
• 43:39
  You've had that, that you've. So the more you read about it
• 43:42
  and the more you see that it's happening to people around you
• 43:45
  think the more real that concept becomes.
• 43:48
  And the idea of having a Maccabel also may not sit well
• 43:52
  with people. I'm not into Maccabel by.
• 43:54
  The way, right, It's interesting, right?
• 43:55
  But yet you're believing in the story.
• 43:58
  Well, it makes sense because it makes sense.
• 44:00
  Exactly. It was it, it wasn't it was a it
• 44:01
  was a pretty it was a pretty mean like as Maccabel and go
• 44:05
  mainstream Maccabel right, right.
• 44:07
  I don't in general I I discourage people in going to
• 44:09
  Kabbalah. Why I say it's usually a scam.
• 44:12
  Scam marks usually. Wow.
• 44:14
  Yeah, like Rabiakovila says don't go to Kabbala.
• 44:18
  Biagavil says do not go to Kabola.
• 44:19
  So Biagavil says don't go. You don't go because he's a he's
• 44:22
  a it's not about if you know how to read Kabola, because then you
• 44:25
  know how to manipulate people. It's about knowing you got to
• 44:27
  learn tomorrow. That's really the focus here.
• 44:29
  So people who learn Kabola, a lot of times it's they use that
• 44:32
  to scam people. They know how to read people.
• 44:34
  They don't manipulate people. And they can figure out, oh,
• 44:37
  you're going on a journey and they know how to make you feel
• 44:40
  and somebody's got to go fight with you and they know how to
• 44:43
  play you, that you give them money.
• 44:45
  Stay away from them. Wow.
• 44:49
  It's true. Wow.
• 44:50
  So you've had an impressive life journey.
• 44:52
  Looking back now, you've had envisioned we're just. 100%
• 44:56
  we're not. It's not we're we're, we're not
• 44:58
  just starting, but we're in the middle, but.
• 45:00
  Looking back, looking back, had you ever envisioned that you'd
• 45:04
  be where you are today, doing what you have, what you're
• 45:07
  doing, the impact that you're making, I.
• 45:10
  Don't know if I envisioned this. I don't know.
• 45:12
  But, you know, I just, I just kept on taking it one book at a
• 45:16
  time. One book at a time.
• 45:17
  But I said here we are. You know, I have to go.
• 45:22
  Yeah. I'll go.
• 45:23
  Well, I have to tell you. Listen, I did not think in a
• 45:25
  million years. Every once in a while I'd say
• 45:27
  like, you know, nothing until see, I went to shoot with it,
• 45:29
  you know, like, I didn't think I'd be doing this.
• 45:31
  I didn't. I mean, I come to our map in
• 45:34
  Chubbish all the time. I don't think I've ever bumped
• 45:35
  into you once. Yeah, you know, so this.
• 45:38
  Is You're welcome. Yeah.
• 45:40
  Thank you. I really appreciate it, but this
• 45:43
  was awesome. This was, this was a lot, a lot
• 45:45
  of fun. And I am, I'm, you know what I
• 45:49
  can't say by trade. I'm not an individual that
• 45:52
  speaks publicly. I, I don't like to speak
• 45:54
  publicly, but I, I found this enjoyable because I found this
• 45:58
  was a very free flowing and I, I, I felt like that you were,
• 46:02
  you know, we were all being real and raw and, and, and speaking
• 46:06
  from the heart. And this was actually fun.
• 46:08
  But people sometimes they tell me, I want to send you a list of
• 46:11
  questions before I'm into. I said, don't, I don't like just
• 46:13
  let's do it. Let's just, yeah, do it.
• 46:16
  When it happens, when I first interview on Country Gussy, my
• 46:19
  first album. So I spoke to him before I got
• 46:22
  on Country Gussy show. And then he's like I said, well,
• 46:25
  you're asking questions. He's like, don't worry now.
• 46:27
  And I'm not going to ask about the peace process.
• 46:29
  And I'm like, come on, ask me. I was waiting for it.
• 46:34
  You know, nobody grabbed me those questions.
• 46:36
  Here's a give me some good questions.
• 46:38
  Was that the first interview that you done?
• 46:41
  Yeah, Kajiosi back was Kajiosi and that's, wow.
• 46:43
  The first album came out and I said to Kajiosi years ago, I
• 46:47
  said I have a theory. People don't even make CDs
• 46:50
  because they want to make CDs. They make these because they
• 46:51
  want to be on your show. That's the way to get all your
• 46:54
  shows. They have to because, oh, that
• 46:55
  we can see. We need to get a Kajiosi.
• 46:56
  Show that doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense.
• 46:58
  You know, you were saying about books that you plan on writing,
• 47:02
  projects that you're working on. Were there any disappointments
• 47:05
  that you had before we go into closing and how much time are we
• 47:09
  in so far already? So we have a couple of minutes
• 47:13
  left. But I, I just, you know, the
• 47:15
  idea of the none of your Business podcasts and the reason
• 47:17
  why we started, it really was for Oshi and I to decompress on
• 47:21
  a weekly basis and bring in a thought leader and help us grow
• 47:25
  in our world. So I always like to talk about
• 47:28
  challenges and I talk about growth and, you know, talk
• 47:31
  about, you know, topics to debate.
• 47:33
  You know, I tried hooking you in before to see if there's
• 47:36
  anything that bothers you or that frustrates you, but it
• 47:38
  doesn't seem like that's a world that you live in because, you
• 47:40
  know? Listen, we all have things that,
• 47:43
  you know, that get us going. Yeah, I'm sure if we spoke long
• 47:49
  enough, there's things that they get that.
• 47:51
  Look, I get very passionate about things.
• 47:52
  Yeah, I do. You asked me about
• 47:54
  disappointment. Yeah, I want to know.
• 47:56
  I want to know in closing, you know, how we can learn from
• 47:59
  Someone Like You who has written so many books, so many books
• 48:02
  that a book that couldn't be written that you thought was
• 48:04
  going to be written and you listened to your rather blessed
• 48:07
  with this. Kudos to kudos to you about
• 48:09
  that. Thank you.
• 48:10
  I'm really impressed. Yeah, I, I think at the end of
• 48:12
  the day, it's like you're Rebbe, you got, you know, a. 100% not
• 48:14
  even a question. That's why you have.
• 48:16
  That's the whole idea of doing that.
• 48:17
  Why? Why have a Rebbe?
• 48:18
  Yeah. The the beauty of having a Rebbe
• 48:20
  in in in what my opinion and the reason why I tell people it's so
• 48:22
  important is because when they say not to do something, you
• 48:25
  feel good about it, right? You know, it's sort of like he's
• 48:28
  I was with you on this, right? I said to my Rebbe that this
• 48:30
  thing that I'm working on, I said, I said I need you to dive
• 48:32
  in. So I really want to be a
• 48:34
  partner, right. I'm, I'm looking forward to be
• 48:36
  able to be a financial partner with you.
• 48:38
  Yeshiva, please dive in for me so I can do that.
• 48:41
  Yeah. And he's like, I'm going to dive
• 48:42
  for you and you can be a big partner.
• 48:43
  So that that's important for me. I can tell you disappointment.
• 48:49
  OK, so there was a specific, there were two books I wanted to
• 48:52
  write and and I didn't get them. And I was, I was asked by art
• 48:59
  school throughout one of them and then somehow somebody came
• 49:02
  and somehow managed to get it and I didn't get it.
• 49:06
  I tried very hard to get those books and I did not get them.
• 49:09
  I and I was in both yeshivas. What?
• 49:11
  Is that what does that mean? You tried.
• 49:12
  I'm sorry. I went to, I went to the wife of
• 49:16
  the person who passed away. There was a Shiva.
• 49:18
  I say said I knew there was relationship with these people.
• 49:21
  I learned in the yeshiva. The other person also learned
• 49:24
  the one you should sure the Shiva.
• 49:25
  I learned that you Shiva had a person wrote the book didn't
• 49:27
  even learn in the yeshiva. Other person gave to me that for
• 49:29
  help because they didn't know the people in the Shiva I had.
• 49:31
  I was like, and I gave them the information I had, but it was
• 49:34
  really disappointing. And then I I said that was if it
• 49:38
  was trying, trying, I'm going to people, I'm making you stylus
• 49:41
  and then it got incredible and I didn't do any stylus.
• 49:46
  I didn't try and that book was one of the most popular Jewish
• 49:50
  books of all time. And I said, OK, I learned you
• 49:54
  don't have to make stuff crazy later on.
• 49:58
  So it was a it was a later on, the certain organization wanted
• 50:02
  me to, to do to do a they told me to do a book and and then the
• 50:07
  the president said to me, Oh yeah, but there's the people.
• 50:10
  We don't want this guy. I want I said I'm out.
• 50:12
  I'm not. He said, what do you mean you're
• 50:13
  out? I said, I'm out.
• 50:15
  If it's supposed to be for me, I'll get it.
• 50:17
  I don't have to fight for it. And if I'm not, then no matter
• 50:19
  what I do, I won't get it. And that that project didn't end
• 50:23
  because someone else who does something similar in Israel, I
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  ended up writing books about that person and it was I'm so
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  much happier. And I, I, I exact, I saw that
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  the kudo and today when people say I am like the, I, I said
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  this to a guy recently. He's like, you know, we've told
• 50:41
  him I'm writing a book and I, and I'm like, listen, I don't
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  have to fight for books. I don't have to fight because if
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  it's supposed to happen, it will happen.
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  And besides, it will happen. It's not going to happen no
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  matter what I do. And I learned this, it's, and I
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  was disappointed that I learned very clearly that you don't have
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  to worry about these things. Everything has an address.
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  I'll give you an example of of a disappointment that led to big
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  things. You guys want a good story?
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  Please go for it. So far everything's.
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  Been good. It's really nice to be with you
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  and you know we have good commerce.
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  Your brother back in our good friends.
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  We could come do it all like other people they have to call.
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  It David. Oh yes.
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  We're like, we're all. Friends.
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  Yes, yes, we can get away. With it, we, you know, back the
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  tower, that's the dodge ball in the backyard.
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  So we can do that. Dodge actually asked each other.
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  You said you think you still got a punch bowl.
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  Very much used to wait for dodge ball for recess and that all was
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  great. It was great.
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  Oh, the first one, Illumination dodgeball.
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  Anyway, so I I'm, I'm, I'm Barbuso Berkowitz.
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  I wrote my first book and I had some free time and I wanted to
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  do something I needed like I did a few hours of work.
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  Let's say I'm looking for I don't know what to do.
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  Like what am I going to do? So I had an idea.
• 51:47
  I'm like John Jonathan Rosenwald up.
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  He had a son Rosenman reason from Schmucker columnist.
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  So he had an office across from from Centre 1 back then.
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  So I said, you know, I'm going to I'm going to go to him.
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  He, that was my father-in-law, Schuler.
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  And I don't know if I know from the show I'm going to go to him
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  and I'm going to ask him if he needs someone to help him.
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  Right, Right. Maybe they can help him
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  research. I don't know.
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  So I just get dressed and I'm all set.
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  And I go like inconceivable. He's going to turn me down,
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  right? No way.
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  So I just show up and I and I asked the secretary, could I see
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  it? Yeah, sure.
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  Go in. I go into him.
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  His desk's piled high with papers, like a real, He's a real
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  Yale academic. He's brilliant, you know, You
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  know him at all. He's now brilliant Yale
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  academic. Tons of books, papers
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  everywhere. Anyways, I told him I'm like,
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  you know, do you think it's possible to get a job, work, if
• 52:33
  he's like very small operation, me and my secretary, I don't
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  need anyone. OK.
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  I walk out of his office. I'm like all dressed up and
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  nowhere to go. Now what I said, I don't want to
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  just give up. So I look at the directory of
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  the company and there's a whole bunch of of company names.
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  They'll say I'm going to take one company and I'm going to
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  walk in there and I'm going to ask them if they need someone.
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  I don't know what they do. I'm going to walk in and see
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  what happens. Wow.
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  That's it. So I walked in, I took I took
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  the elevator to the third floor and I just see this company and
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  this the glass doors open up and I walk inside.
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  There's a secretary by the door sitting table and she was on the
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  phone. So I just walked in.
• 53:16
  I walked in and I started walking around and I see people
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  are computers and it's a nice vibe but good atmosphere.
• 53:24
  People seem happy and OK. I don't know what they do but it
• 53:29
  looks like a nice place to be. So a guy comes over to me and he
• 53:32
  says to me can I help you? I'm like, I hope so.
• 53:35
  He said what are you like? So I'm looking for a job.
• 53:38
  He says what what do you can? Can you write?
• 53:42
  I'm like, yes, that's exactly what I can do.
• 53:45
  Why? What is this place he goes?
• 53:46
  We outsource for a certain newspaper in America.
• 53:49
  We put it together over here. I'm like, great, what can I
• 53:51
  start? He's like, whoa, slow down.
• 53:53
  Slow down, Tiger. I need a sample.
• 53:55
  If you work, I'm like, fine, OK, I'll bring you a sample.
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  It's like, go home. I take a floppy disk.
• 54:01
  My first book was on a floppy disk and I go the next day to a,
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  to a, to a store. I never print or anything.
• 54:07
  I wrote my first book by hand. Actually, my first few books I
• 54:10
  wrote by hand that had people typing them until I told myself
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  out of time. Anyways, I go out, print out
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  like 20 pages. I go back to the next day, I
• 54:17
  bring it to him. I said, I said, when are you
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  going to get back to me? He said I need like 2 weeks.
• 54:20
  I'm like 2 weeks to read 20 pages.
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  Like you're in a newspaper business.
• 54:24
  Like how do you guys get a newspaper out every week if you
• 54:26
  need, you know, two weeks to read to it?
• 54:28
  He's like, Nah, two weeks. I'm like, OK, anyways, two weeks
• 54:31
  go by, doesn't call me. Cool.
• 54:34
  I'm like, what's going on? He says, I didn't read it, I'm
• 54:36
  sorry. I'll get back to you.
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  So he calls me back not long afterwards.
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  I said, oh, so you don't need two weeks, alright.
• 54:42
  Anyways, he's like, listen, I don't know.
• 54:45
  I'm like, what? What do you what, what don't you
• 54:46
  know? He said, I don't know if you
• 54:48
  have what it takes, you know, I'm like, well, how you going to
• 54:51
  know if it'll give me a chance? He's like, yeah, maybe call
• 54:55
  Misbah, call Hamadiyah, maybe write true stories.
• 54:59
  You know, I don't know. I don't think it's the right
• 55:02
  match. So I got off the phone.
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  I was very upset at this man. But as I said, it doesn't cost
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  you any money to give me a chat. I'm young.
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  I'm trying to get into the business.
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  Give a person a chance. I learned from this.
• 55:14
  Give people a chance. Should be Staubert.
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  You know that is. I don't know if you know that
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  is. He did a lot of stuff.
• 55:19
  Buff Perlowitz. People caught them.
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  They're young, they're starting out.
• 55:23
  Because the person's 18/19/20 doesn't mean they're not good.
• 55:25
  They're good. They could be great.
• 55:27
  Do give people a chat. We wouldn't have heard him to
• 55:30
  let me write an article. If you don't like it, don't use
• 55:32
  it. Don't pay me, just give me.
• 55:34
  You didn't give me a chance. I was so upset.
• 55:37
  I sat down at the table and I wrote my first short story.
• 55:41
  It was colder, a belly. Actually.
• 55:44
  That's funny. Wow.
• 55:45
  And I it was a story about when I was a kid and it where I lived
• 55:48
  when I moved to Israel and there was a guy there, American guy.
• 55:51
  There weren't a lot of Americans there.
• 55:52
  I became close to him and then he and then he became sedish.
• 55:55
  I moved away and he moved to Ashto to become Episcopal Hassan
• 55:57
  whole story. And I I, you know how he changed
• 55:59
  whatever my story, I wrote the story.
• 56:02
  I'm like, OK, so now what? He said, well, I'm a deal.
• 56:05
  I I pick up the newspaper and the newspaper says editorial
• 56:08
  offices and I'm like, that sounds so professional.
• 56:10
  It sounds so scary. It's formal editorial offices.
• 56:14
  I'm like I'm like my confidence was shot right.
• 56:17
  I got I couldn't do it. So I didn't pick.
• 56:19
  I didn't call a few A few weeks later, that old fellow IPS cops
• 56:25
  to Israel. I'd be Shoreline and it's Harlan
• 56:27
  Rachel. He was a pioneer of the Jewish
• 56:30
  book world. He's he wrote, he had magazine
• 56:32
  called Light Magazine. And he, he trusted the books.
• 56:34
  He was, he was a, he was a clash of a guy, very special man.
• 56:37
  And he, he was started, Satnam started a newspaper in America
• 56:40
  called the American Jewish Monitor.
• 56:41
  And he was the editor and he asked me, I don't even know why
• 56:44
  he asked me, do you have any, any, any pieces that you write?
• 56:46
  I said, yeah, I have a bunch and I wrote a few pieces here.
• 56:48
  He said he read them. He said, I like it.
• 56:50
  I'm going to. I'll publish it.
• 56:51
  So the next six months he's publishing my pieces and it is
• 56:54
  American Jewish Monitor. And then it goes bankrupt.
• 56:56
  But by then I'm already published.
• 56:57
  I already published a bunch of thesis.
• 56:59
  I feel confident again. So I call up, I pick up the
• 57:01
  humble deal. I call the number 585-382-2226.
• 57:09
  It's not, that's all. You don't have to know if I
• 57:10
  hurt. I get through to the editorial
• 57:13
  source. Album is Rathi.
• 57:14
  She's a Charger magazine. I say hello, my name is Dahmed
• 57:17
  Seltzer. Are you looking for writers?
• 57:18
  She says. Of course I said great.
• 57:21
  She says have you written anything?
• 57:22
  I said the other newspaper on the other desk.
• 57:24
  She said yeah, I said turn it over is an ad for Tiger Press.
• 57:27
  My book just came out the edge. It's over there.
• 57:29
  Great. I always start talking about
• 57:31
  what what you're going to write and eventually I sent the
• 57:33
  different samples and finally eventually Shavuous that
• 57:35
  shavuous. She took my first piece, went at
• 57:38
  Tambodiya and Brachashem. Things started cracking and I
• 57:43
  was in London for H flew me and I was going at that time.
• 57:46
  I was by Bristol Berkowitz Kirov.
• 57:48
  I was I went the age where I was selling Kipper to London.
• 57:50
  I was khousing. I was looking at the job there
• 57:52
  in London and I remember my the story the angry father came out
• 57:56
  and every raw of like said it at the unknown Kipper.
• 57:58
  It was a huge thing. And I was reading.
• 58:00
  I bought a Hamadi in England and I I I saw the the magazine
• 58:03
  letter to the editor. They're like we love these
• 58:05
  stories from, you know, from Nachman Seltzer.
• 58:07
  And then I was like, you know, pull it away, like look at this.
• 58:10
  It's happening, you know, and and the year it goes by and
• 58:14
  there's this this new thing called an Ahmed Seltzer story,
• 58:17
  the genre a year and a half goes by. 1 Shab.
• 58:21
  Somebody, a friend of mine, a shab this morning for the pseudo
• 58:24
  and my wife. And there's a couple sitting
• 58:26
  across the table. And the wife looks vaguely
• 58:29
  familiar. So after I might say, I look at
• 58:31
  her, I say, you look familiar. Where do I know you're from?
• 58:34
  And she gets the sheepish look on her face and she says, I'm
• 58:37
  the secretary of that company that you walked into.
• 58:39
  She said, yes, we know we made a mistake.
• 58:43
  Maybe they'll come work for us now.
• 58:46
  I felt good. Come on, they felt good.
• 58:49
  But I learned from that and used less in her life.
• 58:51
  I learned that Kurtis brothers says you know you you're going
• 58:55
  to do good things in life and maybe but your job is not to
• 58:58
  write PR pieces for a newspaper. Your job is like short true
• 59:01
  stories and sparium and Zara Simpson make do that and and and
• 59:05
  and you know, had solo and rabbit Grossman and you have a
• 59:08
  different job and that's not going to work.
• 59:10
  But but you know, you're doing your stylus, I'm going to come
• 59:13
  towards you. You're you're making it happen.
• 59:15
  Don't worry. As long as you do your stylus,
• 59:17
  someone will will meet you. You don't have to worry and some
• 59:21
  noise. You're there.
• 59:22
  And it is a plan for every person.
• 59:24
  And that was such a big lesson for me.
• 59:26
  It's like you don't have to worry and in a sense that that's
• 59:29
  not for you, but you'll see there'll be other things for you
• 59:32
  that maybe you'll enjoy a lot better and you'll feel like
• 59:35
  you're doing way more productive for Chrysol and you're you're so
• 59:39
  so that was amazing. I'm just going to edit one thing
• 59:42
  you said and I want to say you've done great things, not
• 59:44
  good things. It's amazing.
• 59:46
  Thank you so, so much, Ravnath and Rav Naftali.
• 59:49
  This was an amazing episode. Thank you all.
• 59:52
  Please don't forget to like, subscribe, comment, get
• 59:55
  involved. We love your feedback.
• 59:58
  I I, I am so happy that leaving Israel.
• 1:00:02
  And on my way to the airport, I'm able to catch you guys and
• 1:00:06
  have this episode that we are all doing great things together.
• 1:00:10
  And I just want to bless the two of you with that.
• 1:00:13
  You should continue to be inspiration until everyone
• 1:00:16
  around you, to your family, to your friends, to your
• 1:00:18
  associates, to people in your shul and your community like
• 1:00:21
  you're doing till now, continue to do great, great things.
• 1:00:24
  Neil Zelman, you're amazing. I love you, Thank you for
• 1:00:26
  joining me today. Ravnachman, you're amazing, I
• 1:00:29
  love you. Thank you for joining us today
• 1:00:31
  or Citroen. Thank you so much for making
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  this happen in your beautiful studio.
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  Citroen Studios. Did I get it right?
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  Citroen Films. Amazing, such a beautiful
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  studio. Anybody that needs anything done
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  the US, check them out. This was amazing.
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  I, I just give you all a blessing that we should all
• 1:00:53
  continue to grow on our journey together.
• 1:00:55
  And Neil, I'll let you have the final.
• 1:00:57
  Word And usually we end off forget of these trips in a
• 1:00:59
  blast, but this time we ended off in the spurts.