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Speaker 1: The Large Nerd Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerd
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Speaker 1: Drunk Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky
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Speaker 1: stuff happening in the world around us and how excited
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Speaker 1: we are about it. I'm Ariel Casting, and with me,
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Speaker 1: as always, is Jonathan tech Boy Strickland. Hey there, Ariel,
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Speaker 1: I got a question for you. You've been cursed. What
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Speaker 1: classic type of monster do you turn into? I would
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Speaker 1: turn into a swamp thing. Okay, all right, a swamp thing. No, well,
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Speaker 1: mermaids not a monster. I could be a side. Now
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Speaker 1: I want to be a swamp thing. I like the
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Speaker 1: swamp thing, so I mean it's fair enough. Yeah, I like.
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Speaker 1: I like how everyone can tell that we don't pre
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Speaker 1: share these questions because that proves it, right there, aerial
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Speaker 1: swamp thing casted, aerial swamp thing casting a club. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, just because again, like when I think
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Speaker 1: classic monster, I'm like, well, Siren, it's more of like
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Speaker 1: a mythological beast than a classic monster. Mermaids not really
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Speaker 1: a monster. Some people might find it monstrous. They're certainly
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Speaker 1: monstrous mermaids. But yeah, swamp thing that is like a
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Speaker 1: classic Hollywood level classic monster. It still has to do
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Speaker 1: with wet water stuff. Are you are you so? Are
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Speaker 1: you thinking like swamp thing like the mossy swamp thing,
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Speaker 1: gooey swamp thing, or are you thinking like a swamp
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Speaker 1: monster all creature from the Black Lagoon. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't turn my nose up at either. I definitely think
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Speaker 1: like Creature from the Black Lagoon has better aesthetics. But
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Speaker 1: I do like having long hair, so maybe the mossy
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Speaker 1: swamp thing. Plus you know, if you go by the
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Speaker 1: d C version of that, then he's also kind of
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Speaker 1: uh he cares about the environment, So yeah, and a monster.
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Speaker 1: What about you the Blob? I ever since Lockdown the Blob?
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Speaker 1: Is that what you currently feel like or is that
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Speaker 1: what you would want to be? No, that's pretty much
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Speaker 1: what I feel like. I have a feeling that the
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Speaker 1: curse would just you know, amplify what I feel like.
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Speaker 1: And while right now I just kind of imagine myself
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Speaker 1: slowly using my way from place to place through osmosis, uh,
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Speaker 1: I think the Curse would just make it a reality,
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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't I would be the Blob. It sounds
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Speaker 1: relaxing and people would write little catchy pop tunes about me.
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Speaker 1: Beware of the blob. It creeps and sleeps and slides
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Speaker 1: and glides across the floor and through the door. I get.
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Speaker 1: I guess by that logic. Swamp thing is also accurate
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Speaker 1: because Georgia is really freaking humid. It's true. It's true.
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Speaker 1: We don't live near the swamps of Georgia. Those are
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Speaker 1: in the southern part of the state and we are
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. But there are days when you step outside
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Speaker 1: and it feels like you just walked into a swamp.
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Speaker 1: So I totally get it. See now, I thought you
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Speaker 1: were gonna pick like a dracula, like a vampire, but
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Speaker 1: like the suave kind of vampire. Like that you say
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Speaker 1: a dracula, not not a vampire, but age, which reminds
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Speaker 1: me of a time when I watched an improv show
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Speaker 1: and there was an invading force. In the invading force
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Speaker 1: were three draculas, not three vampires, three draculas. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I get what you mean. Yeah, yeah, it's because I
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Speaker 1: say blah all the time. It's and you know, you're
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Speaker 1: pretty upper crust, and to me, dracula's fancy fancy pants monsters. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, what this uh, incredibly fruitful conversation is going
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Speaker 1: to now lead into completely unrelated news items. And the
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Speaker 1: first that we're going to talk about is an upcoming
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Speaker 1: adaptation of Mark Miller and Frank Quietly's comic book series
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Speaker 1: Jupiter's Legacy that's now going to be a live action
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Speaker 1: series on Netflix. And there's a trailer for it. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's Um it's a Netflix show. Did you already say that?
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Speaker 1: I did, But go ahead and say it again, say
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Speaker 1: it proud? Oh fine, it is a Netflix show, um,
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Speaker 1: and it it focuses on the children of well established
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Speaker 1: superheroes who are now having to take up the mantle,
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Speaker 1: how they feel about that, whether you know some of
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Speaker 1: them obviously are hesitant, they don't feel like a hero,
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Speaker 1: don't want to be a hero, whatever the reason is,
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Speaker 1: and sort of the social commentary around that. I guess, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it. To me, it reminds me a lot
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Speaker 1: of series like or or you know, properties like Watchman
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Speaker 1: and uh maybe Invincible a couple of other series where
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Speaker 1: it's it's sort of an exploration of what what role
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Speaker 1: would superheroes really play and what do they really mean
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Speaker 1: and how would they fit within the context of actual
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Speaker 1: social crises, so interesting concepts, things that like go beyond
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Speaker 1: just the the surface level superhero stuff. But it's also
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Speaker 1: what we're already seeing in properties like the m c U.
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Speaker 1: I actually think we're entering into an era of superhero
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Speaker 1: property as a means of delivering social commentary, very much
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Speaker 1: in the same way that science fiction frequently plays that part.
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Speaker 1: I agree, and and even to the point of, like,
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Speaker 1: I see all of our superheroes aging up a little
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Speaker 1: bit and being, you know, family people. Not that that
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen in the comics, but even if you look
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Speaker 1: at DC, Superman and Lois, it's all about their family life.
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Speaker 1: It's about being a parent, And so I feel like
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Speaker 1: they're trying to hit hit two levels here. They're trying
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Speaker 1: to reach the aging, mainstream geek audience because let's face it,
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Speaker 1: m c you's been out for what more than a yeah, um,
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Speaker 1: while also pulling in their their kids. So I think
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Speaker 1: it's really interesting, and it's also touching on stuff that
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Speaker 1: we're seeing in upcoming series and movies as well. Like
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Speaker 1: one of the stories we did not include in our
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Speaker 1: lineup was about the first look of the power Puff Girls,
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Speaker 1: which we realize it's kind of hard to do that
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Speaker 1: in an audio only podcast to talk about the first look,
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Speaker 1: but we know that that series is going to be
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Speaker 1: a live action series about the three Powerpuff Girls who
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Speaker 1: have grown up their young adults now and they are
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Speaker 1: somewhat resentful over the fact that they weren't able to
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Speaker 1: have a real childhood because they were always saving the world.
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Speaker 1: And they're just a lot of similar themes, right, like
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Speaker 1: reluctant heroes or um heroes who are having second thoughts,
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Speaker 1: or people who question their heroism whether or not they
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Speaker 1: really are heroes or if they just happen to be
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Speaker 1: people who punt really hard. It's it's interesting. I do
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Speaker 1: wonder if this will create a kind of superhero burnout,
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Speaker 1: but to be fair, I was wondering that about seven
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Speaker 1: or eight years ago and we haven't hit it yet.
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Speaker 1: Same same. Now, did you like the trailer? Is this
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Speaker 1: a show that you would want to watch? Thought the
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Speaker 1: trailer looked really interesting? It didn't. I wouldn't say it
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Speaker 1: hooked me where I feel like it's a must watch
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Speaker 1: for me, but it was interesting enough where I thought
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Speaker 1: I might I might give this a couple episodes to
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Speaker 1: see if it clicks. With me because the effects actually
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Speaker 1: look really good for a made for like series type
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Speaker 1: of thing. The acting looks like it's really good. I
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Speaker 1: just uh, and even like stuff like the costumes and
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Speaker 1: things that kind of dig like they're very you know,
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Speaker 1: stereotypical superhero e. But I think I'm gonna need to
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Speaker 1: watch like a full episode and see how the narrative
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Speaker 1: is constructed before I really understand and feel if it's
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Speaker 1: it's for me or not. What about you? Um? You know,
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Speaker 1: I went into the trailer going I'm gonna love this.
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Speaker 1: I like Mark Miller's other work. I really enjoy kick
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Speaker 1: Ass and Kingsman and things like that and some of
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Speaker 1: his Marvel stuff. So I went into it going, yes,
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Speaker 1: this is this is a show that is made for me.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It just had a slight edge of cheese,
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Speaker 1: but that just might have been them trying to hit
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Speaker 1: all of like the little hooks that they're putting into
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Speaker 1: the show so that anybody who watches the trailer would
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Speaker 1: get a little bit of something that would snag them.
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Speaker 1: You know, now that you say that, I am reminded
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Speaker 1: of a line that I absolutely detest because it's it's
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Speaker 1: such a cliche which is the world is changing. That
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Speaker 1: line is literally in the trailer. It's it feels like
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Speaker 1: that line is in like every movie from like forward right,
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Speaker 1: the world is changing and uh, and you're just like, oh,
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Speaker 1: come on, man, I don't I'm so tired. It's like
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Speaker 1: hearing someone talk about the last year and saying, it's
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Speaker 1: been a tough time for everybody. Can we just not
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Speaker 1: we just know it all right? Can we just skip
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Speaker 1: that part? Yeah? Yeah? Uh, something we don't know a
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Speaker 1: lot about and we don't want to skip at least
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Speaker 1: I don't want to skip. Jonathan might is a new
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Speaker 1: Star Trek film coming out in Uh. I have liked
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Speaker 1: all of the new Star Treks movies. Um, I like
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Speaker 1: the first half. Oh No Into Darkness, no bad movie,
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Speaker 1: No no cookie, no cookie for for that movie. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is a this is a new film. Uh. There
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Speaker 1: were a whole bunch of different Star Trek projects that
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Speaker 1: were in development over the last couple of years. From
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Speaker 1: what we understand, this is not reflective of any of those.
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Speaker 1: It's something entirely different. J. J. Abrams is going to
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Speaker 1: produce it. Um, but that's about all we know. We
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to be set in the
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Speaker 1: same timeline as the previous Star Trek the most recent
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Speaker 1: Star Trek films, or if it will be something different. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's all we know. I will say that one of
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Speaker 1: the rumors was that it was going to be written
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Speaker 1: by Glinda Vasquez, who is a writer and do sort
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Speaker 1: on Star Trek Discovery, which obviously, if it's J. J. Abrams,
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Speaker 1: it's probably not a collaboration. I would assume that's just
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Speaker 1: a complete factless assumption. But that being said, I have
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Speaker 1: been picking back up on Discovery, and you know, I
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Speaker 1: like it the sill through. Oh oh my heart, Oh
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Speaker 1: my heart. Do you also like Picard? I I haven't
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Speaker 1: watched all of that yet, but I have to. I
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Speaker 1: have to catch up. Like, okay, so I've watched I've
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Speaker 1: watched some of both, but I haven't watched it all
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Speaker 1: way through because we didn't have CBS access for a while,
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Speaker 1: so I was picking it up as I could, So
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Speaker 1: I'm re binging them all and re assimilating them all.
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Speaker 1: I think it's just I have such a fondness for
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Speaker 1: the characters and the universe that like, it's easy to
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Speaker 1: please me. I don't fault to you for liking it.
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Speaker 1: You can like things that I don't like, and that
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Speaker 1: is perfectly fine. Your side was first very faulting. But
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Speaker 1: I think what it is is I remember Discovery being
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Speaker 1: so dark the first go round that when I'm watching
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Speaker 1: it now, I see a lot more of the hope
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Speaker 1: and happiness, and that's kind of cool. I think I
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Speaker 1: just don't feel like it, Like I feel like there's
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Speaker 1: it's hard for me to feel like there's a cohesive
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Speaker 1: universe at play because things change so much, and especially
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Speaker 1: since Discovery is not not that long of a timeline
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Speaker 1: difference between that and the original series, it feels misaligned
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Speaker 1: to me. But but I'm also old and grouchy, so
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Speaker 1: I mean you're at least grouchy. Well, going from Spaceman
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Speaker 1: to Space Robots Robots. Netflix is working on a Gundham
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Speaker 1: live action movie. The live action part is the thing
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Speaker 1: that gets me. Yeah. Yeah, written by the comic book
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Speaker 1: writer Brian cave On, directed by the guy who directed
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Speaker 1: Kong Skull Island, and yeah, I mean, like, well, there
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Speaker 1: was a live action Transformers movie. There were several of them.
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Speaker 1: They're all terrible, and I highly recommend you never watched them.
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Speaker 1: I think what it was was that I watched Maga
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Speaker 1: sixty four do a ten minute version of Evangelian recently,
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Speaker 1: like the Swedish cut of Evangelion, and they were all
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Speaker 1: in homemade costumes and things like that. So when I
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Speaker 1: think of a live action Gundham, that's where my brain
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Speaker 1: immediately goes, which is probably not accurate. You probably probably
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Speaker 1: will be closer to Transformers. I do like that genre,
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Speaker 1: although I am not as familiar with Gundam myself. I
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Speaker 1: will also say I like the comic book Saga It's
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Speaker 1: a good space opera, and Gunham as a space opera,
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Speaker 1: so I'm hopeful. Yeah, I mean it's it's like the
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Speaker 1: next step up. Like the all the Giant Robots stuff
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Speaker 1: I used to watch, they all fell into the general
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Speaker 1: category of a little kid somehow gets control of an
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Speaker 1: enormous robot and that is seems to be okay, Like
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Speaker 1: it's a robot that could easily be a weapon of
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Speaker 1: mass destruction, but it's okay. This little kid controls it
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Speaker 1: and helps save the universe. That was like like Gigant
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Speaker 1: or like all the all the shows I've watched fell
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Speaker 1: into that category. And as as Polygon points out, and
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Speaker 1: we'll link to the story in our show notes, Polygon
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Speaker 1: points out that the Gundam was really kind of a stage,
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Speaker 1: a step in maturity when it comes to enormous space
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Speaker 1: robots fighting each other. Yeah. Yeah, um so I look
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Speaker 1: forward to it. Um I don't. I don't think I'll
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Speaker 1: have to watch the entire anime beforehand, but maybe. And uh,
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Speaker 1: We've got one last story for our little headlines here
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Speaker 1: that we want to conclude on that also ties back
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Speaker 1: to Netflix, which is that Netflix and Sony Pictures Entertainment
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Speaker 1: have signed an exclusivity deal where Netflix will get the
14:58
Speaker 1: exclusive streaming rights to all new Sony Pictures Entertainment movies, which,
15:03
Speaker 1: get ready, y'all, there's been a fighter bruin. That means
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Speaker 1: that the Spiderman movies are going to be exclusively streaming
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Speaker 1: to Netflix, which means Spiderman is not going to get
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Speaker 1: to join his buddies in the m c U over
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Speaker 1: at Disney. Plus. Yeah, that's it's a weird one for
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Speaker 1: me because they canceled all of the you know, the
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Speaker 1: Defenders level Marvel shows to get them to separate out
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Speaker 1: Disney material from Netflix. Although I know that there are
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Speaker 1: certain Marvel movies due to past deals that still continue
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Speaker 1: to be on Netflix as well. But it's also bad
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Speaker 1: news for Stars because Stars has been carrying a lot
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Speaker 1: of that Sony stuff. Yeah. Yeah, this is a kind
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Speaker 1: of leading into that world that people were worried about,
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Speaker 1: where you start seeing specific properties aligned with specific streaming services,
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Speaker 1: and it means that you have to make tough choice, say, is,
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Speaker 1: when it comes to which services you subscribe to, whether
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Speaker 1: you subscribe to multiple ones, how many do you subscribe
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Speaker 1: to until you're like, I'm spending way too much per
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Speaker 1: month just so that I have access to all these things.
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Speaker 1: Um yeah, no, me too. I actually was debating before
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Speaker 1: the recording of this podcast canceling one of my streaming
16:24
Speaker 1: service subscriptions because I don't remember the last time I
16:27
Speaker 1: actually accessed it. Yeah. I almost need like a Fantasy
16:32
Speaker 1: football level spread chart of all of my different subscriptions
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Speaker 1: when the shows I like on each of them comes out,
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Speaker 1: so that I know when to start one and then
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Speaker 1: cancel it and start the other one. I have Netflix,
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Speaker 1: so and I do watch it. I love some of
16:45
Speaker 1: the shows that are regular on there, and I can
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Speaker 1: also rewatch some of my old favorites. The other thing
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Speaker 1: about this is there I've heard a lot of speculation
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Speaker 1: on whether some of the two movies which is when
16:54
Speaker 1: this is going to start, that are coming out or
16:56
Speaker 1: going to go straight to streaming on Netflix things uncharted
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Speaker 1: or or more obous, or if they're going to do
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Speaker 1: what HBO max is doing and do a streaming and
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Speaker 1: theater release at the same time. I mean, that's all speculation,
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Speaker 1: but I am curious. I'm sure that I'm sure all
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Speaker 1: the theaters are now hoping that we'll go back to
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Speaker 1: the old ways of having, you know, several months in
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Speaker 1: between when a film comes out to hit theaters before
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Speaker 1: it starts streaming, so that it gives more reason to
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Speaker 1: go to theaters. But we still don't really know what
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Speaker 1: a post herd immunity world is going to look like.
17:31
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no telling when we're going to actually
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Speaker 1: reach herd immunity vaccination rollout is still very much in
17:37
Speaker 1: progress at the state we live in as is way behind,
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Speaker 1: so um, you know, there's there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: unanswered questions, and I think everyone is just sort of
17:47
Speaker 1: hedging their bets right now. They're hoping to get back
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Speaker 1: to releasing films in theaters and getting those big box
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Speaker 1: office weekends. Then transitioning over to streaming. But I just
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Speaker 1: don't know if that's the world we're gonna go back
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Speaker 1: to yet or not. Yeah, me neither. I mean, I hope.
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Speaker 1: So I just got my second vaccination shot and I'm
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Speaker 1: not quite in the clear too to start, you know,
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Speaker 1: visiting friends yet. But even when I am, I don't
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Speaker 1: know how soon I'll be comfortable sitting in a theater
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Speaker 1: with people. I mean, if it's at an off time
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Speaker 1: and myself and my husband are the only people in there, sure,
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Speaker 1: but you know, if it's if it's a crowded theater,
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Speaker 1: I don't know when when I'll feel comfortable with you.
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Speaker 1: But now I feel the same way. Arial Well, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break, and when we come back,
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Speaker 1: we're going to have a discussion about some things that
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Speaker 1: we think are sort of introductory materials to get people
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Speaker 1: into the geek world. Because for most of us, at
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Speaker 1: some point or another, we weren't geeks, but then we
18:47
Speaker 1: had geek dum, either thrust upon us or we naturally
18:50
Speaker 1: grew into it. So what properties are the ones that
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Speaker 1: kind of lead people down the geeky primrose path. We're
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Speaker 1: going to find that out after this quick break. So
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Speaker 1: you said that some of us were not geeks but
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Speaker 1: had geeks geeked m thrust upon us. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that actually applies to you or eye Jonathan. Well, no,
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Speaker 1: I was born into it. I mean my parents are
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Speaker 1: both science fiction authors. And uh yeah, I mean like
19:29
Speaker 1: I my parents gave me a framed crayon picture that
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Speaker 1: I drew when I was four years old, and the
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Speaker 1: title of the picture is Gallum in the Ring. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was from birth a geek. But not everybody is, No. No.
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Speaker 1: I mean I've had quite a few friends that I've
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Speaker 1: had to introduce and ease into things like doctor Who.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I mean, and some of us who
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Speaker 1: are lifelong geeks have had a physical rejection of doctor Who. Listen, Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: h That's okay. Even though I disagree with you, I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying it's bad. I'm just saying I couldn't get
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Speaker 1: into it, and I tried. I got all the way
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Speaker 1: to Matt Smith and I was like, I'm done. Look
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Speaker 1: that is that is definitely the case for I would
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Speaker 1: say a large group of people. You know, it is
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Speaker 1: pretty schlocky in some areas, But I do know that
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Speaker 1: you and I both have friends who are not necessarily geeks,
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Speaker 1: but we want to share that passion with them. I
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Speaker 1: know I do. I would say, like the thing that
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Speaker 1: I have found to be the most bridging and also
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Speaker 1: the most furious to me, it is something like Big
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Speaker 1: Bang Theory or even a little bit I T. Crowd.
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Speaker 1: I like the people who are on it. I don't
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Speaker 1: like this necessarily the stereotypes that it brings, but it
20:47
Speaker 1: has opened up to like, you know a lot of
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Speaker 1: my coworkers or things like that, this love of geekdom
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Speaker 1: through the love of the geeks that are being portrayed. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I feel you, They're Yeah. I have very strong links
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Speaker 1: about the Big Bang Theory. Uh. I have strong feelings
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Speaker 1: about the creator of the I T. Crowd for different,
21:06
Speaker 1: totally different reasons. Um. I think the performances on the
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Speaker 1: I T. Crowd are really fun, and I think the
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Speaker 1: humor is really fun for most of it. There's some
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Speaker 1: episodes that are uh, you know, the word problematic is
21:22
Speaker 1: used way too much, but there are some episodes that
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Speaker 1: are just not good. When you start to deconstruct where
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Speaker 1: the humor is coming from. There's one in particular I'm
21:30
Speaker 1: thinking of, um, but Big Bang Theory has that problem
21:34
Speaker 1: pretty much every every episode. After like halfway through the
21:38
Speaker 1: first season, I felt Big Bang Theory started off cute.
21:42
Speaker 1: In fact, let me tell you the first thing I
21:45
Speaker 1: ever saw a Big Bang Theory which fooled me into
21:48
Speaker 1: thinking this was a show that I was going to love.
21:53
Speaker 1: It was an episode in which, uh, the characters are
21:56
Speaker 1: bidding online for what they think of is I'm model
22:00
Speaker 1: of the the H. G. Wells time Machine, the one
22:03
Speaker 1: with a big disk. That is, it's like a chair
22:06
Speaker 1: with a giant disc that's mounted behind it. The disc
22:08
Speaker 1: slowly rotates, and they think they're they're bidding on a model,
22:13
Speaker 1: and it turns out there bidding on a full scale
22:17
Speaker 1: replica of the time machine. Like it's enormous, and they
22:21
Speaker 1: set it up in their apartment and then they get
22:27
Speaker 1: to take turns uh playing in the time machine, and
22:31
Speaker 1: so one of them sits down and begins to move
22:33
Speaker 1: the controls, and all the others suddenly start running around,
22:36
Speaker 1: acting like they're moving in fast motion, like the idea
22:39
Speaker 1: being that that the person is moving through time quickly.
22:43
Speaker 1: That moment, I was like, this show is for me.
22:46
Speaker 1: It's a celebration of geekdom. These are friends who are
22:50
Speaker 1: encouraging this person's love of a particular piece of science fiction,
22:55
Speaker 1: you know, icon iconography, and they are feeding into their
22:59
Speaker 1: imagine Asian and that's wonderful. And then I watched another
23:03
Speaker 1: episode and I thought, oh, that's not what this show is. No. Now,
23:08
Speaker 1: I mean you laugh a lot at the geeks as
23:10
Speaker 1: opposed to with them. Um, which is fine. I laugh
23:14
Speaker 1: at myself and my friends all the time. But you know,
23:17
Speaker 1: I do feel like, while it's not a proper uh
23:23
Speaker 1: depiction of what a geek is in today's society, I
23:27
Speaker 1: do feel like it has opened a lot of my
23:30
Speaker 1: mundane friends up to looking at some of the superhero
23:33
Speaker 1: stuff or sci fi stuff that those characters were interested in,
23:36
Speaker 1: because they're interested in those characters. Well, let me ask
23:39
Speaker 1: you this. So we both talked about being kind of
23:43
Speaker 1: raised as geeks. Were there any kind of genres or
23:47
Speaker 1: subgenres that you weren't necessarily a fan of from birth
23:53
Speaker 1: that you kind of grew to love because of a
23:56
Speaker 1: specific property. I know, I'm setting you up for like
23:59
Speaker 1: a stumper of equation. If it helps, I can talk
24:01
Speaker 1: about one for me. You go ahead and talk about
24:04
Speaker 1: it first, because I do have to really think about this.
24:07
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but for me, like the
24:10
Speaker 1: movie Gremlins was kind of a gateway film into horror
24:14
Speaker 1: for me because Gremlins, when you look at it's it's
24:17
Speaker 1: a it's a horror comedy. Um. It's a little heavier
24:23
Speaker 1: on the horror than well, a lot heavier on the
24:25
Speaker 1: horror than its sequel, which is more of a zany comedy,
24:28
Speaker 1: which I love, by the way. But the first Gremlins is, uh,
24:32
Speaker 1: you know, it's not really scary if you're an adult,
24:35
Speaker 1: not really. There's a couple of jump scares, but it's
24:37
Speaker 1: not terrifying. As a kid, it was scarier, right, it's
24:41
Speaker 1: playing upon your imagination. It's taking this cute little animal
24:45
Speaker 1: and then spawning all these terrible monsters out of it,
24:49
Speaker 1: and uh, the sort of the stuff of nightmares. But
24:51
Speaker 1: it was also very accessible, like it wasn't over the
24:54
Speaker 1: top gruesome or gory apart from like a blender scene
24:58
Speaker 1: in a microwave scene. Um. And it was also had
25:02
Speaker 1: entertaining moments, like funny moments in it, and that became
25:05
Speaker 1: a gateway of what I got. The next movie I
25:08
Speaker 1: can think of watching that falls into that category is
25:11
Speaker 1: the Gate, which was another It's like a Canadian horror
25:14
Speaker 1: movie that's really freaky but very accessible to kids. And
25:18
Speaker 1: it also speaks to kids like, it doesn't speak down
25:21
Speaker 1: to them. It speaks to kids like like they're adults
25:26
Speaker 1: and it doesn't you know, patronize, And that, to me
25:29
Speaker 1: is what started me watching horror films. And um, you know,
25:34
Speaker 1: for a long time, I didn't really think that those
25:36
Speaker 1: kind of movies existed anymore. And then a few years
25:38
Speaker 1: ago the movie Crampus came out, and you know, it's
25:44
Speaker 1: a Christmas themed horror movie, and Crampus felt a lot
25:49
Speaker 1: like Gremlin's in spirit to me, and that again, it's
25:53
Speaker 1: a movie that I feel like could be accessible to
25:55
Speaker 1: a younger audience without it being you know, the gruesome
25:59
Speaker 1: horror of say an Eli Roth movie, and uh, it
26:03
Speaker 1: could get kids interested in horror and then sort of
26:05
Speaker 1: lead them down that path of discovering other types of movies. See,
26:10
Speaker 1: most of the genres that I've had to grow into,
26:12
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said as I was growing into them
26:14
Speaker 1: that they were geek genres. So things like westerns or
26:18
Speaker 1: military movies or or scary movies. You know, I enjoy
26:23
Speaker 1: scary movies a lot more and scary television shows and
26:25
Speaker 1: things like that as I've grown up and kind of
26:27
Speaker 1: been able to separate the story from reality, which has
26:31
Speaker 1: always been my big problem. Um. You know, the same
26:34
Speaker 1: with with Western and and and war movies kind of
26:39
Speaker 1: but again, like unless it's got that sci fi fantasy
26:43
Speaker 1: aspect to it. Like I like King Arthur, I like
26:46
Speaker 1: West World, but I'm not really gonna watch you know,
26:49
Speaker 1: Apocalypse now. Um, I don't like a lot of military
26:56
Speaker 1: sort of video games, but I like Halo. You know,
26:59
Speaker 1: he's got that sci fi aspect to it. So that's
27:03
Speaker 1: a hard one. Um, I would say that. Um, you know,
27:07
Speaker 1: one of in our show notes, I wrote the m
27:09
Speaker 1: c U is kind of a gateway because m c
27:12
Speaker 1: U is definitely mainstream. I mean you look at like
27:14
Speaker 1: some of the top performing movies in the last decade
27:17
Speaker 1: and a half, and the vast majority of them, or
27:21
Speaker 1: at least half of them, are superhero movies. And once
27:25
Speaker 1: upon a time superheroes were kind of a niche thing,
27:28
Speaker 1: but they are definitely mainstream, and I would argue that
27:32
Speaker 1: sort of a gateway right there. I would say so too.
27:35
Speaker 1: I think you know, myth busters or Sherlock or or
27:40
Speaker 1: something like that that deals with the science, or the
27:42
Speaker 1: mystery or or the at least the ideas of the fantastical,
27:46
Speaker 1: because even though Sherlock, outside of the Irregulars, you know,
27:49
Speaker 1: always has an explanation, there's always that little bit at
27:52
Speaker 1: the beginning of what is what is happening here? You know,
27:56
Speaker 1: Mr Robot Like, that's a sci fi but it's it's
27:58
Speaker 1: kind of couched in a possible reality. I feel like
28:01
Speaker 1: all of those are are great gateways for people into
28:04
Speaker 1: things like science fiction. The one that really surprised me
28:08
Speaker 1: that has spanned all of all of the people I
28:12
Speaker 1: know almost is Game of Thrones. Yeah. Um, Game of Thrones.
28:18
Speaker 1: You wouldn't think that high fantasy, would I mean? Granted,
28:21
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings that was a phenomenon too, right,
28:24
Speaker 1: Like when the Lord of the Rings movies came out,
28:26
Speaker 1: that also broke out beyond just fantasy geeks that was
28:31
Speaker 1: filling up theaters. But Game of Thrones was such a
28:35
Speaker 1: cultural phenomenon. You could argue that was because a lot
28:39
Speaker 1: of the early shows were heavy on the violence and
28:42
Speaker 1: the nudity, but there was obviously more than that. People
28:46
Speaker 1: got connected to characters, they cared what was going on,
28:49
Speaker 1: despite the fact that week after week they were taught
28:52
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't like anybody because as soon as you do,
28:54
Speaker 1: they're gonna die. Um, you know. But yeah, I would
28:58
Speaker 1: say that that was one of those those shows where
29:02
Speaker 1: if you had told me five years before Game of
29:05
Speaker 1: Thrones came out that one of the top television series,
29:09
Speaker 1: uh dominating ratings was going to be a fantasy series
29:14
Speaker 1: based off of a series of novels, I would have
29:16
Speaker 1: thought you were joking. Yeah, yeah, me too. And it's
29:21
Speaker 1: it's weird because like some of the people I know
29:23
Speaker 1: who are the fiercest fans are people who self admittedly
29:28
Speaker 1: do not like any other fantasy. They don't like science fiction.
29:32
Speaker 1: They barely like uh, you know, speculative fiction. So see,
29:39
Speaker 1: it's that's weird to me because as a fan of
29:42
Speaker 1: fantasy and science fiction and speculative fiction, I fell off
29:47
Speaker 1: of Game of Thrones. Um. I've read the books as
29:50
Speaker 1: far as they have been written so far, and then
29:54
Speaker 1: I had only ever in fact, to this day, I've
29:57
Speaker 1: only ever seen the first episode the television series. I
30:01
Speaker 1: never watched beyond it. Um, I knew what happened, because
30:04
Speaker 1: of course I did, because there was no way of
30:06
Speaker 1: avoiding it. Everyone talked about it, but it was It
30:10
Speaker 1: was at a point where the show finally got beyond
30:14
Speaker 1: where the books left off, and a specific event happened
30:18
Speaker 1: that convinced me to just walk away from the Game
30:20
Speaker 1: of Thrones forever, uh and not look back. And it's
30:24
Speaker 1: so interesting to me that so many people got heavily
30:26
Speaker 1: invested and they stayed with that show all the way
30:28
Speaker 1: to the end, and they don't care for other types
30:32
Speaker 1: of fantasy, because I have the opposite experience, having a
30:38
Speaker 1: love of fantasy but not being able to buy into
30:41
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones, mostly because, if I'm being honest, it
30:44
Speaker 1: felt like misery porn to me. I can definitely see that.
30:49
Speaker 1: And I'll say, you know, I I watched the first
30:51
Speaker 1: few seasons, and then I took a big break in
30:53
Speaker 1: the middle, and then I watched the last two seasons
30:56
Speaker 1: as well. Um, and I'll say that like the end
30:58
Speaker 1: of it was much better than the getting of it,
31:00
Speaker 1: and and much like the rebooted Battlestar Galactica or something
31:03
Speaker 1: like that, I had to know what I was getting
31:06
Speaker 1: into and like prepare myself to be able to appreciate it.
31:10
Speaker 1: To be fair, I also have to do that with
31:12
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park, which is I think another great gateway property
31:17
Speaker 1: because it's science fiction based on something that people could
31:20
Speaker 1: imagine happening. So yeah, at least a science fiction to me.
31:24
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not officially science fiction. No, it's science fiction. Yeah,
31:28
Speaker 1: it's absolutely. It's using science to to create clones of dinosaurs.
31:33
Speaker 1: I mean that's about that's definitely science. I mean, if
31:35
Speaker 1: you're telling me it's science fact, we gotta go Jurassic Park.
31:39
Speaker 1: I know there's a new roller coaster. I mean that's
31:43
Speaker 1: that's a Universal and I do want to ride that
31:45
Speaker 1: as soon as it's safe for me to do. So, yeah, no,
31:47
Speaker 1: I think it opens June eleven, and I'm like, uh,
31:50
Speaker 1: when when will I feel comfortable enough to go to Universal?
31:54
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not going to Florida in June.
31:57
Speaker 1: That's just not happening. It will be a little bit
32:02
Speaker 1: warm then at the least, so interesting discussion. I'm very
32:06
Speaker 1: curious if our listeners have suggestions of sort of gateway
32:11
Speaker 1: properties that you feel are good introductions into the world
32:15
Speaker 1: of geekdom, and you know, kind of maybe at a
32:18
Speaker 1: at different age rage ranges as well, because obviously game
32:20
Speaker 1: of Thrones would not be appropriate to show to like
32:23
Speaker 1: a ten year old, but not at all. And so
32:26
Speaker 1: here's the other thing is that, like my perception of
32:28
Speaker 1: this is obviously shaped by my age. Like I brought
32:32
Speaker 1: up Gremlins, which I don't know that I would show
32:34
Speaker 1: that to a young kid, just because the pacing is different,
32:37
Speaker 1: the effects are different. It's a you know, the way
32:41
Speaker 1: things have changed. I'm not sure how well that movie
32:43
Speaker 1: has aged with regard to a new audience, right, So
32:48
Speaker 1: I'm curious if people have other suggestions. I mean, we
32:51
Speaker 1: are getting a Gremlins cartoon, so maybe that'll reach the
32:55
Speaker 1: newer generation. I wonder if Minecraft would be considered a
32:59
Speaker 1: gateway property. Yeah, I don't know. Like whenever I see
33:03
Speaker 1: anyone in a kid in a Minecraft shirt when we
33:06
Speaker 1: were working the Renaissance Festival, if I saw them, I
33:09
Speaker 1: would do the creeper thing, which sometimes they understood and
33:13
Speaker 1: sometimes they didn't, and that's when I knew they just
33:15
Speaker 1: played in creative mode. Yeah. Yeah, Well, we do hope
33:19
Speaker 1: to hear from you on you know, your opinions of
33:22
Speaker 1: of gateway properties, things that got you into the geekdom. Uh,
33:26
Speaker 1: But first we've got to give you a mash up,
33:29
Speaker 1: and before that, we've got to take a quick break aerial. Yes,
33:53
Speaker 1: so no one told you life was going to be
33:57
Speaker 1: this way. Your jobs, oke, you're broke, you love Life's
34:02
Speaker 1: d o A. Looks like you always stuck in second year.
34:06
Speaker 1: Hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even
34:10
Speaker 1: your year. What's our mash up? Um? It's Loki meets
34:16
Speaker 1: Friends trying to work in. I'll be there for you. No,
34:20
Speaker 1: I didn't give you any opportunity. No, no, it's fine. Yeah,
34:25
Speaker 1: So Jonathan and I are both excited about Loki. That's
34:29
Speaker 1: even though we didn't talk about it this week in
34:31
Speaker 1: our new segment, We've talked about it plenty of times.
34:33
Speaker 1: Really looking forward to that series, I mean The Falcon
34:36
Speaker 1: and The Winter Soldier. I'm still enjoying despite some reservations
34:39
Speaker 1: about some of the episodes. But I cannot wait for Loki.
34:43
Speaker 1: Me me neither. And something people have waited for for
34:47
Speaker 1: a long time is the Friends special coming out to
34:50
Speaker 1: HBO Max we got which got delayed twice but has
34:54
Speaker 1: finally finished up filming, so it's finally wrapped and I
34:59
Speaker 1: know it. Friends is not it's more pop culture than
35:03
Speaker 1: geek culture, although I feel like the lines are really
35:05
Speaker 1: blurred nowadays because if you take a show like Friends
35:09
Speaker 1: that was popular, you know, sixteen years ago, dear goodness,
35:15
Speaker 1: and people are still enjoying it today, that kind of
35:17
Speaker 1: makes it a geek, don't Oh yeah, no, I I
35:19
Speaker 1: think so. And it's like the fact that I will
35:22
Speaker 1: see some kids who weren't even born when the show
35:27
Speaker 1: came out talking about watching the show blows my mind
35:31
Speaker 1: because I never thought of it being a show that
35:33
Speaker 1: would have that kind of staying power. Then again, I mean,
35:35
Speaker 1: like I grew up watching reruns that had long been
35:39
Speaker 1: off the air by the time I was a kid,
35:42
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's that unusual. Um. But yeah,
35:45
Speaker 1: So we decided that we were going to take the
35:47
Speaker 1: property of Friends and mash it up with Loki and
35:51
Speaker 1: find out what the heck happens. And I can't wait
35:53
Speaker 1: to find out what Ariel did. Okay, so this may
35:58
Speaker 1: not go the direction you expected to. It didn't go
36:02
Speaker 1: the direction I expected to, and I was writing it,
36:04
Speaker 1: but this is called Could you be anymore trickster? Uh?
36:09
Speaker 1: I love it already all right? After past Loki stole
36:13
Speaker 1: the test rack a k a. The Shiny Blue ventry Cube.
36:15
Speaker 1: In two thousand twelve, we all know he got captured
36:18
Speaker 1: by the Time Variance Authority. That's what the New Loki
36:21
Speaker 1: shows about, and he was forced to fix all of
36:23
Speaker 1: the timelines that his actions created. He was pretty good
36:28
Speaker 1: at it, and the tv A decided to keep him
36:30
Speaker 1: around once he had cleaned up his own mess. Unfortunately,
36:34
Speaker 1: the t v A didn't trust Loki as far as
36:36
Speaker 1: they could throw him, which isn't very far. I don't
36:38
Speaker 1: know if you know this, but half frost giants are
36:41
Speaker 1: actually pretty dense. Uh So, when they weren't using him,
36:45
Speaker 1: he was relegated to a cell, and the only show
36:48
Speaker 1: that played on his tiny cell television was reruns of Friends.
36:53
Speaker 1: Loki hated it at first, but eventually the show grew
36:56
Speaker 1: on him like Chandler's third nipple, and he started wishing
37:00
Speaker 1: he could live in the Friends universe instead of at
37:03
Speaker 1: the end of time with the Time Variants Authority. Uh So,
37:07
Speaker 1: he started making plans each time the t v A
37:10
Speaker 1: sent him out, and he encountered a variant of an
37:13
Speaker 1: avenger in a timeline. Just as he was about to
37:16
Speaker 1: prune and end that timeline, he would sneakily abduct that
37:18
Speaker 1: adventure variant and stick them into his own little secret
37:21
Speaker 1: pocket dimension to inhabit his own little friends world. Soon
37:27
Speaker 1: he had variants of Bruce Banner, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow,
37:30
Speaker 1: iron Man, and of course Thor, and he knew it
37:34
Speaker 1: was time to make his move. He disappeared into the
37:37
Speaker 1: pocket dimension, magick ng the portal behind him to lock
37:40
Speaker 1: it closed, and created his own little corner of New
37:43
Speaker 1: York in scepter perk Uh. He made himself the Monica
37:47
Speaker 1: of the group because of course she's the master planner.
37:51
Speaker 1: Iron Man, because he was neurotic, became Chandler, black Widow
37:57
Speaker 1: with her outward put togetherness appearance, but secretly soft soft
38:01
Speaker 1: heart became Rachel. Bruce Banner was ross who, if you
38:06
Speaker 1: aren't familiar with friends, is kind of short tempered himself,
38:09
Speaker 1: and Thor became, as Loki viewed it, the stupid dummy
38:14
Speaker 1: poopoo head Joey, and Scarlett Witch was made Phoebe because mysticalness. Anyhow,
38:20
Speaker 1: things went well for Loki at first, and he was
38:22
Speaker 1: happy because everyone else was slightly miserable. Tony being was
38:27
Speaker 1: really good at what he did, but no one knew
38:29
Speaker 1: without was or even cared Bruce Geller constantly was a
38:32
Speaker 1: doormat and an effort not to get mad or show
38:35
Speaker 1: his cards, and only occasionally punched a dinosaur bone. Uh.
38:39
Speaker 1: Tasha Green Natasha hated serving coffee and doory was living
38:45
Speaker 1: in a state of constant rejection. How old thou doing
38:54
Speaker 1: Wanda Buffet did seem a little off, but that wasn't
38:58
Speaker 1: out of her character either. Unfortunately, what Loki didn't know
39:02
Speaker 1: was that he had nabbed the variant of Scarlett Witch
39:05
Speaker 1: that had just come out of the hex in one division,
39:08
Speaker 1: and she quickly recognized the pattern uh that she was in.
39:12
Speaker 1: It was so similar to what she had just been
39:14
Speaker 1: through she knew something was up, and she devised a plan.
39:18
Speaker 1: The plan would require her to out herself to Loki, though,
39:21
Speaker 1: so she told Loki, Hey, I see what you're doing
39:24
Speaker 1: one magic user to another. Uh. But it's cool. I'm
39:28
Speaker 1: down with it. Uh. And she convinced Loki that his
39:33
Speaker 1: little version of Scepter Perk didn't mean anything if other
39:36
Speaker 1: people couldn't see his genius and appreciate it. So, in
39:39
Speaker 1: a moment of vain oversight, Loki replaced all versions of
39:42
Speaker 1: Friends across all universes with his own I want to
39:46
Speaker 1: knew that someone would see the broadcast and realize what
39:48
Speaker 1: was happening and stop Loki, But then she worried that
39:52
Speaker 1: he would be too clever for that and see that coming,
39:54
Speaker 1: so she had to get him to hobble his intelligence,
39:57
Speaker 1: so she played to his pride and jealousy. He pointed
40:00
Speaker 1: out how happy Thor was it getting all the girls
40:03
Speaker 1: and having all the sandwiches and you know, all the
40:06
Speaker 1: hell you doing, And if Loki switched places with him,
40:09
Speaker 1: not only would he have this universe where people could
40:12
Speaker 1: appreciate his genius, but he would also be the most
40:15
Speaker 1: popular Thor being. Monica would realize what was wrong, but
40:20
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to fix it, and everything would be perfect.
40:23
Speaker 1: Loki fell for it, locked away his intelligence to become
40:27
Speaker 1: the perfect Joey, So when the tv A did track
40:29
Speaker 1: him down and broke into his pocket to mention to
40:33
Speaker 1: free everyone, he was unable to stop them. So the
40:36
Speaker 1: tv A freed everybody, uh and unfortunately got rid of
40:42
Speaker 1: them because that's what they do with alternate timelines. But
40:45
Speaker 1: they didn't get rid of Loki. He was still really
40:47
Speaker 1: good at what he did. They put him back in
40:49
Speaker 1: his cell, took away his TV and to give him
40:52
Speaker 1: a little bit extra bit of punishment, they made him
40:55
Speaker 1: subsist on meatball subs and coffee for the rest of
40:57
Speaker 1: his existence. I uh, I love your take. It is
41:02
Speaker 1: so different from mine. It was amazing. I love that
41:06
Speaker 1: there was some one division in there that was fantastic too,
41:10
Speaker 1: really creative. I love it. Um Okay, So here's mine.
41:16
Speaker 1: It's called with friends low keys. Um. Yeah, instead of
41:21
Speaker 1: like with with like with friends like these Okay. Ross
41:26
Speaker 1: has a problem. He was looking forward to sitting down
41:29
Speaker 1: and eating the infamous turkey moist Maker sandwich. You know,
41:34
Speaker 1: the sandwich has turkey stuffing, piece of gravy soaked bread
41:38
Speaker 1: in the middle, some cranberries. But someone appears to have
41:41
Speaker 1: eaten it again. And it's been years since he worked
41:44
Speaker 1: for Dr Leadbetter. Who could have done such a thing. Well,
41:48
Speaker 1: as it turns out that who is a trickster god
41:51
Speaker 1: by the name of Loki, adopted son to Odin and
41:54
Speaker 1: brother to Thor. Yes, Loki is Ross's new roommate. Chandler's
41:59
Speaker 1: liveing with Monica. Joey is not really hanging out with
42:03
Speaker 1: him anymore, and well, Ross just has to deal with this.
42:08
Speaker 1: Ross discovers Loki's transgressions, and the god seems amused, that
42:12
Speaker 1: is until Ross and righteous fury begins to advance on Loki.
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Speaker 1: Fearing for his life, and Ross is anchored is beyond
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Speaker 1: even that of a frost giant. Loki decides he has
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Speaker 1: to open up a portal and jump in it, but
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Speaker 1: he doesn't close it fast enough, and next thing he knows,
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Speaker 1: Ross is right on his tail in another dimension. Loki
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Speaker 1: on the Run begins a desperate series of jumps from
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Speaker 1: one reality to the next. One moment, he's in New
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Speaker 1: York running through a comedian's apartment as the comedians having
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Speaker 1: a conversation with his group of friends, and it's all
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Speaker 1: about nothing and all of his friends are terrible, and
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Speaker 1: Ross chases after him, saying excuse me, Mr Seinfeld. As
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Speaker 1: he does, then a portal opens into a restaurant called Riffs,
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Speaker 1: where a couple named Paul and Jamie Buckman are having
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Speaker 1: dinner and a waitress named Ursula is doing a really
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Speaker 1: bad job of taking their order, and Loki dives over
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Speaker 1: the table and out through the door, pursued by Ross,
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Speaker 1: who yells hi phoebe to Ursula, who looks like really annoyed,
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Speaker 1: and then Loki passes into a portal and then appears
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Speaker 1: in a living room where a small, furry brown creature
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Speaker 1: is chasing after a cat and calling it a snack.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't waste another second as Ross closes in goes
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Speaker 1: through another portal. Loki then jumps into yeah, another portal
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Speaker 1: stop short, looks around. Ross jumps right through behind Loki
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Speaker 1: collides with him, but before Ross can throw a punch,
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Speaker 1: he too stops and looks around, and the two are
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Speaker 1: in a vast building with these weird balconies that look
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Speaker 1: down into the open center of this very tall structure,
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Speaker 1: their elevators going up and down in a central bank
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Speaker 1: in the middle of it, and it is in fact
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Speaker 1: the Marriott Marquis in downtown Atlanta. I'm sorry, wait, wait, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's the Time Variance Authority or tv A headquarters. Ross,
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Speaker 1: catching his breath, asks Loki where they ended up, and
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Speaker 1: Loki doesn't know. But then they both encounter Owen Wilson,
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Speaker 1: who explains that in order to fix all the timelines
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Speaker 1: that have been broken, they're gonna have to go through
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Speaker 1: and have a series of adventures throughout all these different
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Speaker 1: realities of various NBC sitcoms, and he explains that sure
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Speaker 1: Friends in Seinfeld co exists because of a tenuous connection
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Speaker 1: thanks to Matt about You. But Alf is right out.
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Speaker 1: So Loki and Ross, the most unlikeliest of duo's, set
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Speaker 1: up out on a series of adventures to repair the multiverse,
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Speaker 1: and they visit different timelines, They get into scrapes, they
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Speaker 1: find clever escapes, and finally they end up back in
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Speaker 1: New York at Central Perk. Everything has been set right. Ross, flabbergasted,
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Speaker 1: exhausted trying to process everything that has happened, sits down
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Speaker 1: on the couch, just slumps into the couch. And during
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Speaker 1: their adventures, Loki managed to snag Ross's sandwich before past
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Speaker 1: Loki could actually eat it, so he hands over the
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Speaker 1: sandwich to a grateful Ross, who sets it reverently upon
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Speaker 1: the table. Loki walks out of the coffee shop just
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Speaker 1: as Ross's friends, you know, the ones from the title,
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Speaker 1: come inside and they sit down and they talk about
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Speaker 1: their day, and then they noticed that Ross is there
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Speaker 1: and they asked him how he's doing, and Ross, a
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Speaker 1: little bit at a loss for words, tries to explain,
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Speaker 1: but the friends kind of get really bored until Ross
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Speaker 1: Here's Joey said, say, man, this is a good sandwich.
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Speaker 1: And yes, Joey has picked up Ross's sandwich and started
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Speaker 1: eating it as Ross tried to talk about his day.
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Speaker 1: So of course Ross murders Joey the end. I loved it.
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Speaker 1: I now wish I had put more m c U
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Speaker 1: television shows into my mashup to match the level of
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Speaker 1: the only reason I did that was because I happened
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Speaker 1: to remember that Friends was linked to Mad About You,
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Speaker 1: because the character of Ursula showed up and Mad about
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Speaker 1: You before Friends was ever a thing. Then Friends established
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Speaker 1: that Ursula and Phoebe are twit ends, and then in
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Speaker 1: an episode about Mad About You, it was indicated that
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Speaker 1: at one point, Paul Riser's character lived in the apartment
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Speaker 1: that Kramer lived in, and so that means all three
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Speaker 1: of those shows have to exist in the same shared universe.
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Speaker 1: That's brilliant. I also love that Owen Wilson was owned. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Owen Wilson like this because I don't know what his
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Speaker 1: character name is and Loki, so he's just Owen Wilson.
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Speaker 1: It's Morbius and Morbius. But it was that was such
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Speaker 1: a great mashup. I loved it. I almost almost did
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Speaker 1: something with that turkey sandwich too. It's the one that
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Speaker 1: it's the it's the episode I always think about because
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Speaker 1: it's also the you referenced the fact that you know
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Speaker 1: Bruce Banner and yours was ross because of the rage thing,
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Speaker 1: and that's the episode that that started off that whole
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Speaker 1: rage storyline. That's where he had to start taking the
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Speaker 1: medication for his rage. Yes. Yes, so that was a
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