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#92 | South Texas Haunts w/ Guest Co-host Ben DeLeon of Recycled Corn Podcast · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: What's going on, y'all?
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to the Corpus Christi Originals.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Jesus Iladio.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today we're going to be uh going beyond the ordinary and into the paranormal with Monty Prescott, Shauna Davis of South Texas Haunts.
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  SPEAKER_02: What's up, you guys?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh they investigate haunted places across South Texas, blending local history, mystery, and personal encounters.
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  SPEAKER_02: Joining me as my guest co-host, my friend Ben DeLeon of the Recycle Corn Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: What's up, Ben?
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  SPEAKER_04: How's it going, man?
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  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Who's bringing in fresh questions from his uh from a first-time investigator's perspective?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, whether you're a believer skeptic or just love a good ghost story, this is the one for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's dive in.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: How y'all doing today, y'all?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: Doing pretty good.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, definitely.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Ben, what do you think?
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  SPEAKER_04: Guest co-host?
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm um this is weird.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm not used to being on this side of it.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm used to having an assistant, not being the assistant.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Shout out to uh your assistant.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean co-host uh what's up?
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: Right on, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So how did you guys get it?
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: How did South Texas Haunts get started?
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, it kind of goes back before South Texas Haunts.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh, about 21 years ago, uh my mom and I started Corpus Christie Spook Central.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh basically we had a shop in Corpus and uh we did automotive restoration and you know collected cars, classic cars, and we started noticing a lot of activity.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh we reached out to another group that was here locally in Corpus, and they uh came out, they investigated.
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  SPEAKER_05: We did some investigating inside that building, and man, I got stories from that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Crazy.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh basically my mom wanted to join uh the group, and my dad looked at me and goes, If your mom's gonna do it, you're going with her because I don't trust this.
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  SPEAKER_05: So we went with them for a little while, not a lot happened, and then one day I looked at my mom and said, Hey, what do you think about Corpus Christi Spook Central?
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  SPEAKER_05: And she goes, Wow, really?
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  SPEAKER_05: Who are they?
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  SPEAKER_05: I said, It's us.
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  SPEAKER_05: And she looked at me and said, You're crazy.
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  SPEAKER_05: And then we hit the ground running, and 21 years later, now we're South Texas haunts.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're still Corpus Christie Spook Central, but for the last five years, we've been doing a television show with uh Christix Studios and traveling around South Texas, sharing the history and hauntings of a lot of spooky locations here.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's so cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: Man, how did you guys call that?
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  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: So they picked y'all, they asked y'all to always host the show.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: They had had they they had a show before, and they want oh, this was totally brand new.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh, we got the phone call, and they were like, Hey, we're wanting to branch out, we're wanting to do a TV show.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh, of course, my mom's like, it's just a Halloween special because usually around Halloween, they'll call and say, Hey, we want to do something for the news.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh, it was the Lexington was our our pilot episode.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_05: We were all green.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, she accidentally hit her head on the back myself out on that episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: You actually see me on camera and grab for the wall because it was either the wall or I was going down, and then I was trying to explain a piece of equipment I've used a thousand times, and it was more of a um, yeah, yeah, this this thing and that thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, somebody come up here and rescue me.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: It took them a little while to figure out what was happening, but yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I came in because I had to go get a piece of equipment.
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  SPEAKER_05: I came back on the set where the stage was, and I looked over at her and I could just see her kind of and I was like, Oh, this ain't right, something's wrong.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because she's um a lot when she ums a lot, something's wrong.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I walked over to her, she goes, Yeah, this thingy, that thing, and like, no, let's go and turn the ghost box on.
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  SPEAKER_05: We do this, and I got it going.
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  SPEAKER_05: And she kind of walked off, and I was like, What happened?
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh later she had told me that she kind of rung her bell a little bit, and I was like, You gotta be careful.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_04: It'd have been fun if you had been like the spirits have got me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, they got me what's happening, being taking over.
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  SPEAKER_05: But uh, it was a fun experience, and then it was hit the ground running for eight episodes.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're contracted each year for eight episodes, and uh yeah.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool, that's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I gotta admit, uh, when I was uh preparing for this episode, I saw Ghostbusters one and two.
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  SPEAKER_05: That that right there is it's required for me.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, see, I heard I heard your stuff, I think it was your podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: You guys have a personal podcast, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, paranormal distortions.
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  SPEAKER_05: Awesome name, dude.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_05: I love that thank you.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I think it was there on your story about the spook central name, yeah, where it came from.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that was pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was uh I'll never forget sit in the movie.
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  SPEAKER_05: Every year, of course, I'm a big ghost head, and that's what they call people who are love ghostbusters.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, she should know.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I I had bought a 1962 millimeter ambulance, which you I'm sure you've seen on my TikTok, and I've converted it to a 59.
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  SPEAKER_05: So every year when they show Ghostbusters, like, I've got to go watch it.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's it's tradition.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: So we're sitting there and we're all in there watching it.
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  SPEAKER_05: And Dan Aykroyd's on the screen, he goes, Hey, your girlfriend lives at the corner of Spook Central.
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  SPEAKER_05: And from out of nowhere, I see this hand and it slaps me, and she goes, That's where you got it.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, Yeah, that's where I got it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that was me in the theater.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so it was like uh, but yeah, it was one day I was just watching Ghostbusters, and I was like, Corpus Christie Spook Central, man, that's that's got a ring to it.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_04: It does.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um it's so cool because like when Ghostbusters came out, I watched it in theaters, the original, like five times in one day.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_04: Oh I love that movie.
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  SPEAKER_04: Same way.
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  SPEAKER_04: It it changed my perspective of the paranormal as a kid.
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  SPEAKER_04: And and I don't care what anybody says, like in Ghostbusters Afterlife, when Egon's ghost showed up at the end, I'm not ashamed to admit I teared up.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yo, I didn't every time since when I watched that movie, I still get a little, you know, so um, like I said, it was a big part of my childhood.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_04: So um that's one of the things that sparked my fascination.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, they have books on ghosts, like, where do I find these?
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  SPEAKER_04: Like, I need to get them right away.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's amazing the number of books there are about ghosts about the paranormal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you really don't realize that until you start looking into the paranormal, and then it's like it was a whole section of paranormal books.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what inspired y'all personally to dive into the paranormal?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was kind of grandfathered in.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've always had experiences like a kid and as an adult, but I never was somebody who was like, Oh, I want to go investigate the paranormal.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's how we met.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he was having a public event and some friends talked me into going.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was very like, no, let's not do that, let's do something else.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I went anyways, and I called him the nerdy guy behind the computer.
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  SPEAKER_05: That came back to hold us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so when they when I we first got together, they were still doing investigations.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I would tag along here and there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when they came for the show, it was kind of like, hey, you're kind of the business mind of this relationship.
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  SPEAKER_00: I need you to be part of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I kind of got grandfathered in on the whole paranormal thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I do believe I had experiences, um, but that's kind of what got me into it in all reality.
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  SPEAKER_05: I've always been into the paranormal like the house we grew up that I grew up in, there was always something happening.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, like after my grandfather passed away, a friend of mine were in the backyard.
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  SPEAKER_05: It was late.
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  SPEAKER_05: We probably were up to no good.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh, and uh all of a sudden from the back window, we could hear my grandfather go, Moni, Carlos, you boys shouldn't be outside.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's dangerous.
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  unknown: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_05: He looked at me, I looked at him, he goes, You know?
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  SPEAKER_05: I said, Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And he is, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: He never came back to my house.
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  SPEAKER_05: And there was other things, footsteps.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, I mean, the whole realm of just things moving, uh, doors closing, dishes clattering.
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  SPEAKER_05: There was never a dull moment in that house, and it scared me.
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  SPEAKER_05: But then when my mom, I guess ghost hunters came out, and I was watching that show, and then when everything inside our shop started happening, I was like, Well, this is what we do.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_05: Let's turn the lights out and go down the shop.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, I had this Camaro seat sitting off to the side, and we're walking down the center of it, and all of a sudden you could see like a black mass shadow standing in front of us, and that seat that was all the way off to the side was now laying in front of us, it moved on its own.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_05: And then, of course, we contacted the other group, she wanted to do it, and then I kind of like, okay, and uh that's kind of how, yeah, how everything kind of started.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: I never even thought about investigating the paranormal, I thought it was just something that was there, and so actually investigating was kind of different for me.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like I never thought, oh, that's something I'm gonna do.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then here I am.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like you, like you know, it's there, it's like, let's go mess with it's right.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's just see if it's there and it happens, it happens, it is what it is.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: But I never thought it would be something that I would actually seek to go and do.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: But being able to actually help people, I think, has been kind of the neat thing about it.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_05: And that is something a lot of people don't understand just because we're investigators, you know, the city of Corpus and the surrounding areas have been so open and good to us that we've been able to do events to give back to the community, you know, toys for tots, uh, local investigations to benefit historical uh places.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_05: We did ghost tours for six or seven years down Heritage Park, and every dime from any of those went back to the homes.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_05: We've never accepted um anything from this.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_05: There is no money to be made in the paranormal.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_05: Um I got uh to meet Jason and Grant when they came down and investigated the Lexington, and uh Grant said, if you make it your first year, you're doing good.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_05: If you're around your the second year, you've got it made.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_05: And he goes, Don't ever, there's no money in the paranormal.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_05: Don't expect money for the paranormal, don't expect fame, nothing like that.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_05: Do it for the right reasons.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, you know, we work with children organizations like Special Hearts and the Arts.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_05: Um, October 25th, we're doing a public paranormal investigation in Birkler, Texas, at the Berkeley Mansion.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_05: And we've already sold out the nine o'clock uh investigation, and all the money from that's gonna go to help the floors, put a new roof, do a lot of the you know, restorate and upkeep of the location.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: But even helping people personally, right?
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like they have lost somebody and they just want that last connection of being like, are they still watching over me?
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's even you know, yeah, that's that's cool to be able to help people with that also.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I always tell people you actually lose money in paranormal investigations because you have to buy the equipment.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_04: But a lot of times equipment is not cheap.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you you can get certain things off of Amazon that are maybe twelve dollars, whatever, but then when you get to the I, you know, quote unquote good equipment, that's when you, you know, looking at four, five hundred, six hundred, seven hundred dollars for an obelisk, you know.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_05: It's and the prices have gone up on those things.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_05: I've got I've got the second one that ever came out, and I think we paid a hundred bucks for it off of eBay, and now I see them going for three grand on eBay, and I'm like three grand is what I saw.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_05: That's what they were asking.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if anybody's ever paid it, but I was just like, why is it so much?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_05: Be very careful with it, very careful.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: You think it's the influx of invest more investigators uh wanting to investigate?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's TV shows, I think it's the entertainment um aspects.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_05: You know, we're right here uh next October where all that comes more in the open.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_05: It's more talked about because it is the spooky months, and uh people see it on TV, and some people have a passion for it and they go out and investigate, and some people just want a really good scare.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's the curiosity of it.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: They see they see things on TV and like, oh well, if they can do that, why can't I do that?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Just like anything else.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: But then you also have people that have lost loved ones and like, well, if they can reach out and they're getting these things on TV, not realizing the things that happen on TV nine times out of ten aren't going to happen.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, right now, right?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: That you can go and investigate a building for 10 hours and nothing happens.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: Where if you watch it on TV, it looks like we happens every five minutes.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, investigations are boring, they are they are very well.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_05: You get to about the one or two o'clock, and you've said, Do you want me to get out a hundred times already?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_05: And and but there's always you can do 10 investigations and get any, not get anything, and then there's that one that keeps you going for another 10.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow, that's crazy.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's what's going on, Anthony Diaz on uh YouTube?
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for joining the uh the uh YouTube chat.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh you mentioned something interesting about the community, how they like kind of work with you, I guess.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh is there like uh maybe like a highlight or something that you well you mentioned the heritage uh and all that stuff like that.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_05: Did you think that that would happen when no, you know starting out it I didn't think something like that would happen, but you know, I was raised to leave a place better than what you found it.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_05: And Corpus, I know a lot of people say a lot about Corpus, good and bad.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_05: I love my I love my town.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_05: This is my heart, you know.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_05: I I live here, I love here, and um, I'll do anything for my city.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_05: And being able to give back to these historical homes to keep them around another hundred years is is to me is worth it because a lot of corpus's history it disappears each day.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, we'll tell anybody, you cannot have paranormal without history.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_05: You can't have history without paranormal, it goes hand in hand.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_05: And being able to get into these locations and give back.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, when we first started doing it, they they asked us, Well, how much do you want to get paid?
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_05: I said, Nothing.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_05: And they looked at me like I was crazy.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you're willing to do this for nothing?
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_05: No, I don't want anything, nothing.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_05: I said, I I I just want to be able to give back to the community and meeting everybody.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_05: I think in one night, our very last ghost tour down at Heritage Park, I think we ran, man, it had to been a couple hundred people.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_05: We wrapped it around the park.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_05: Wow, yeah, and we raised quite a bit of money to to put the benches to fix porches and the roofs and stuff like that.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: So cool.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the jazz festival's coming up.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna, it's you, it's over there every year.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love jazz.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, real quick, shout out to I guess this is the sponsor spot.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: I had one last episode, but I guess you can check out corpuschristians.com.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: I got merch there to help support the podcast.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, yeah, so check that out.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: Appreciate you guys.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh paramon paranormal experiences and stories.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's see.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: What's the most chilling case you've ever investigated in Corpus Christi?
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I've done so many.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_05: Now, the course the one that everybody wants to talk about is the one that we were featured on Discovery Channel show, A Haunting.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, I won't say the name of the street, it's easy to find.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and a lot of people ask why don't we say the name of the street?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_05: We made a promise, and when we make a promise to keep a residential investigation uh confidential, we do it.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_05: Unfortunately, the newspaper guy wrote the article about it, but he was a little smart and went to the people who were renting the house.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, but I'd have to say that investigation's up there at least in the top three.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_05: Um, that how you did not feel welcomed in that house.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it was every time you walked in, it was an energy of just hate, of just, you know, some of the EVPs, it's like on TV, it says, I'm here for the girl, but the real EVP said, I'm here for the child.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_05: And it focused a little bit on because there were two other children there.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, they didn't feature that on TV because it's TV and they they were underage at the time.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_05: But um, it focused around the children of the home, and it was just something that was going after them to the point of they, you know, it's real, where he tries to get the door open and that's missing it.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_05: He couldn't get the door open, it was like it was a brick wall, they couldn't get through it.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_05: Another one would be Sidbury House Down Heritage Park.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_05: That to me, out of all the places, would be one of the most haunted historical homes in Corpus.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um, one night we were gonna do a tour, and I set up cameras in there so people can watch and see for themselves, get an experience of what an investigation's like.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_05: And our tech guy was upstairs setting up a camera, and he was, of course, setting it up and it was facing behind him, and all of a sudden, there was an apparition of a person that just started appearing behind him.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_05: And we're all looking at the monitor, going, uh, David, David, and it just disappeared.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_05: But of course, we weren't recording, yeah.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_05: We were just setting up.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's the way it works.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_05: It always works that way.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_05: Always happens like that.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's like the spirits know.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we went to one place, man.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_04: I for the life of me, I can't think of the the name right now, but it was like six hours away.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_04: And we got to investigate the home during the day.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_04: And I always tell people, you know, yeah, investigating at night is awesome, but when you get activity during the day, that's a whole other experience.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_04: Because there's there's no rules that says it only has to happen at night.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_04: So when stuff happens during the day, it's like, wow, like I can't believe we just caught this, or you know, this just happened that just moved over there, or we heard footsteps, like what is going on?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and and that's to me.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_04: I I prefer um an daytime investigation sometimes because there's who again, who investigates during the day?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_04: Who stops to think about that?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_04: So there's who knows what we're missing, you know, just because we're only investigating at night.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_04: So I I just like I just want to throw that out there.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_04: So if anybody's watching, try daytime investigation.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's something that I wish the television shows would take into consideration.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Is it not always being the dark, the haunted at nighttime?
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because there are times during the day that things do happen.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: I've worked places that things happen during the day.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we I one place that I worked, I won't say where it is, but we had a table tennis table that we had folded up and the thing literally spun on its own.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: Can't explain it.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's the middle of the day.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I mean, things do happen during the day, and I think you're right.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: When you actually capture something during the day, it's a completely different level of paranormal activity.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: You're just not expecting it.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: So y'all use uh EVPs.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: What what what is uh what does that mean?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: What's the acronym for electronic voice phenomenon?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: So like audio uh right.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's basically an like an audio recorder you would buy, like if you were in school and you're recording your teacher talk or you're recording a meeting.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so basically because our ears can only hear a certain number of volume.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_05: 300 megahertz and below our human ears can't pick up.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_05: That's why we use autore recorders and parabolic mics.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow, that's interesting.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: So EVPs, photos, video, obviously, you guys use that stuff.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: Is there any anything that you captured that is like undeniable evidence?
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: I would say an EVP that you know for a fact somebody wasn't in the room with you, and you can definitely tell what they're saying.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's been times because I listened to our EVPs, and there's times that I'm listening to audio, and I know for a fact that that person wasn't there.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: For example, um old girls' kitchen in Kingsville, Texas.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: It was like 12:30, one o'clock in the morning, and we literally caught a child laughing.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's no children there, but you know how like a two or three-year-old just has that infectious giggle, right?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: You can't make up.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I was listening to it, and that happened, and I was like, Whoa, wait a minute, let me replay this.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: And sure enough, it that's what it was.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: Or catching a female voice when you know there was only men in the room, or vice versa, a man's voice when you know there's only females in the room.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so stuff like that that you know for sure wasn't shouldn't be there.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you yeah, it's a little bit.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_04: I was still trying to remember the name of that place that I went to start with a B.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if it was like Barton Street House or something.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_05: That sounds familiar.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_05: Barton Street House sounds familiar a little bit.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and like I said, about six, six and a half hours away, and that place was incredible.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_04: Like the the energy there, it was never it was spooky, but it was never scary.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I I if I can think of it, I'll I'll say it.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_05: The one EVP that still kind of gets to me.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I've got a private one, which I believe is the love one that passed away, but the one I'm getting ready to talk about, um it's the Yokum Hospital, but we were just talking about a little bit before we started.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_05: And uh we were up there investigating.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_05: This hospital is in a residential area, and there's a story that goes behind it, but the evidence we captured sounded like a shotgun blast going off down a hallway and it echoes.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_05: You can hear it engaging around, clicking, and going off.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_05: So one person will do on investigation, we'll do the historical research because none of us want to know until after.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_05: Because if we get something, if we know beforehand, it's kind of tainting the evidence as we're going in.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, if we can connect the history with the paranormal, it makes it the evidence a little more credible.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_05: So after that's said and done, we start looking at the history of it.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_05: Well, there was a murder there.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's crazy.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_05: And the story goes is that um basically a man was just dropped because his wife was leaving him.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_05: So he goes up there, he's got a jacket on.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_05: Where's my wife at?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, she's on the second floor, she delivered children.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: So he goes up there, she comes out, starts yelling at him.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_05: He doesn't say a word.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_05: He pulls a gun out, puts it to her head, pulls the trigger.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_05: Now, the urban legend behind it is the blood spot there, as many times as they replaced the carpet, the blood stock, the blood spot continues to come back.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_05: So I had made friends with the law enforcement officer up there because he had stopped by.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_05: We investigated like four or five times.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_05: So I called him up and I said, Hey, you know, about that that crime?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_05: He goes, Yeah.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_05: He goes, Well, I was real young.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: I was a rookie on the forest that time.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_05: I said, Hey, what was the weapon used during that uh crime?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_05: He goes, It was a 12-gauge pump shotgun.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 20:34
  unknown: Yep.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_05: And you can hear it clearly.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_05: And we had an off-duty CCPD officer that was with us on that investigation.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_05: Mind you, if a shotgun goes off in that building in a neighborhood area, residential area, we're gonna have cops over there swatting us.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_05: So there was that.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_05: And then of course, uh I believe that I have an EVP and it's not posted anywhere because it's it's really personal.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_05: But uh after my uncle passed away, it was probably about three or four days after my uncle passed away, we were doing a ghost tour down at Heritage Park, and we were adding the Guggen, I think it was a Guggenheim house to the tour.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_05: And I was like, well, I want to do some EVPs because I like to play them before people start walking them, walking the homes.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, I wasn't able to be down there for that little mini investigation, but upon reviewing it, I got a voice that sounded just like him.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_05: It says, Please let me go.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_05: Oh wow, and uh I've shared it for a few family members, but I've never posted it out anywhere.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's you know completely private.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, those are a couple pieces of evidence that still kind of it chokes you up a little bit.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right on.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks a lot, Miguel and uh Facebook.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: I I guess he agrees with uh investigating during the day.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, y'all meant you mentioned uh uh the B place and you mentioned Kingsville.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: So what makes uh South Texas region stand out for hauntings?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's the history, just everything that's happened down here, you know, in the Past.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you think about um the different the 1900 hurricane, um the different trade things that have come through here just over time.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: I and like you say, without history, you don't have paranormal, without paranormal, you don't have history.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and as somebody like me who does is not a big history buff, um, doing the paranormal has brought me into the history world, right?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I can correlate the right I can correlate the two together.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: And we've gotten that from fans too.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: They'll come in and say, you know, I never really was into the history part of things, but now that you mention it and bring it that way, or people who are into the paranormal uh into history, not into paranormal, yeah, vice versa.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I think it's just the area that we live in and all the different things that have happened.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I mean, that we have one of the oldest cemeteries, right?
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: Military cemeteries or something like that?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's uh Bayside.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's Bayside.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_05: Not Bayside, uh or Baby Babysite.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_05: Is that the one you're talking about?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_05: I think so.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's cool, man.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh do you believe that all spirits are harmful and can some people be protective or peaceful?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: Or can some be protective or peaceful?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think it could be a mixture of both in all reality.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: I really think that if you were mean in life, you're mean in death.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_05: If you have that, if you were nice in life, you're nice and in death.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, um, I've experienced both, you know, where there's something.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I can't say it's a demon or it's something demonic or anything.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_05: I mean it comes close to that definition of things, but um, but yeah, I think if you know, if you really look at it, if if you're that type of person on earth, I mean I could only imagine when your time comes and you're out into the universe wherever we go, um, that you you still carry that same type of energy and whatever that energy is.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because they're all made of energy, right?
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: So your energy is gonna be your energy no matter what your energy is.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_02: So so they can't, so I guess the paranormal you can they harm you?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: I guess that's like my thing, because I'm like a big scaredy cat.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, can they like hurt you?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: If if if you was to investigate, I mean, is that a question that comes up?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we've been scratched.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: I got scratched on the USS Lexington on the back of my leg, which doesn't make any sense because you're not really facing that way when you're going up and down things.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he's been scratched at some of the jails we've gone to.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_05: My mom was choked at the uh well, it felt like choking.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_05: I can't say she was, but we were in at the old vodka county jail.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: I felt like I got choked at the old uh Riotto Theater in Bville.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I didn't feel harmed the whole time it was happening.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: It was more like they were trying to get our attention.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I couldn't catch my breath, but yet it felt like somebody had their hand like in the deep part of my throat.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I didn't feel scared.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like they kept telling me to leave, and I was like, I don't want to leave, like I want to stay here.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_05: The uh the old saying is that you know, the dead can't hurt you as the living.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_05: So always be careful of the living, because you'll hurt yourself a lot more times saying than you want.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_04: So I know for me, I always tell people like because we we investigated Yorktown and they're saying, you know, how dangerous Yorktown is.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, come on, no one's ever no one's ever died during an investigation there.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_04: So the worst they could do is scratch you.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, I I like getting scratched on my back.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: So you missed a spot.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Noisis Massacre in 1962.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: 1862.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: 1860.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh shoot.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's way back there.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Appreciate you, Anthony.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Anthony has uh a historical podcast himself.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_04: Uh he's our guy in the our our guy in the chair.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, has ever has there ever been a case where you're like, this is too much, I gotta go.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_05: I can't say that nothing really comes up to mind that I can sit there and say that there's no way I would go back.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_05: We pretty much those are the ones I want to go to.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, crazy.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's kind of like when we did Fluff's White House in uh Floresville, and I'm watching the episode, and the whole story behind the mirror is demonic, it's a portal, and I'm like, and I'm sitting there watching myself on TV go, if you want me to touch this mirror, you know, and I'm like, touch the mirror.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm literally looking at myself, why didn't I touch the mirror?
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want to touch the mirror.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_05: It's like, come on, Monty, you gotta come on, you know better.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_05: Come on.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, those are the ones to me I think would be intriguing, right?
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because you go to certain investigations and you you hear, well, this is gonna happen or this might happen.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: But to me, okay, let it happen.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, okay, show to me that this is here.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm here.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_04: Let's see, that that that is one thing that like bothers me about paranormal investigation shows when they're like, if you can, you know, if you're here, turn this device on, and then the device turns on, and then they go running out the door.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you literally just asked them to do that and they're giving it to you.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_04: I would be like, All right, thank you.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_04: You know, let's let's try something else.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_05: You know, here's a picture of you on the bite of my tablets?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_05: It's like that, it's like that meme with uh Ben Affleck where it shows him standing there with a cigarette, and it's like another paranormal group comes in, he's like, Oh, just really it's right, yeah.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_05: I did what you asked, and now you're running away.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that that's based on that meme.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what location in South Texas do you think is the most haunted?
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_05: I think that is still left to be discovered, and I don't think that that will be found in my lifetime.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_05: I think each investigation, each place, you know, like like here's a really good one Blackbeards on the beach.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: I've seen other groups go in there and they they don't come out with anything.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: We went there three times, but it was on the last time that we got that that apparition on the in the back bar area.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think it's for personal experiences, and that's really what you can only go off of until there's really a database that all groups can come together with evidence and that really show that that's the one place we get the most evidence because every place claims to be the most haunted.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_05: But for our investigations uh through 21 years, the most haunted would have to be a residential investigation in Taft, Texas.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_05: That we went there, I think, a total of 12 times.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_05: And it was there was even a priest brought in to that investigation.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_05: That's yeah, it was uh the sulfur smell.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it was it was pretty bad.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_05: That sounds demonic.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was to the point of there was one night we were doing EVPs, and uh I was using the parabolic mic, and my tech guy was over in one corner.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_05: We he wasn't saying nothing.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_05: I was sitting there, and I got uh a voice that came across that said, Constantine, it won't work.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_05: And of course, you know, I'm a goofball sometimes on investigation, like, yeah, Constantine Keanu Ree is a good movie.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_05: And David looks at me and goes, What did you say?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_05: I said, Constantine, he said it's not gonna work.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_05: Good movie.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, come here.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_05: And he takes his hand and he holds it out like this, and he had the medal of God.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_05: He goes, I was praying to myself.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_05: Oh wow, he goes, I didn't say nothing.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_05: He goes, It was in my own head that I was praying because it's it it was so bad.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_05: I watched my headphone uh wires lift up and kind of poop and then sulfur smell, the priest didn't even stay that long.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_05: And um, citrus smell for whatever reason, you would get blasts like you were in uh with wind of just citrus and it would engulf you and this the smell would just stay on you.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_05: But just everything from the signing of a little girl inside the house to what the family was experiencing, it was almost like Amityville kind of style, how the family arguing all the time uh at each other's throats, the kids doing bad in school, stuff like that.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but once they left the home, it all the family was back together, everybody was happy.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_04: So then it was the it was the house, not the family that was haunted.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_05: But the the thing about it was there was a table, supposedly, in this house, and the story that they were told was is that there was wiccan and and stuff practiced on it, and um, they were told to burn the table.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_05: So that's what they did, and of course, it was the blackest smoke they've ever seen, stuff like that.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I said, well, you that can be debunked, you know, it could be oils in the woods, stuff like that.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_05: But after they burned it, all the the activity picked up fivefold.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow, so yeah, something could have been containing it, and then you destroy the vessel, it has nowhere to go.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_05: So and a lot of people don't realize sometimes bringing home antiques, you get a little you get something a little more than what you I've done it a few times.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_04: We we just bought a chair at at Goodwill, really nice, sturdy chair.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_04: The first thing I tell my wife is you're gonna cleanse it before it comes in the house, right?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, definitely I gotta do that.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_04: So you're a skeptic believer, someone um I'm uh I I believe, but at the same time, I'm extremely skeptical.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_04: Because to me, like I said, if if there's a if there's a cup, let's say the cup's sliding across the the the surface of a table, my first thought isn't I gotta get out of here or whatever.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: My first thought is maybe there's condensation, it the table's off a little, you know, uh off level, so the it's creating that kind of slide, whatever where it can go.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_04: So my thing is is I'm very skeptical.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_04: So I want to eliminate everything to where at the end of it, there's no doubt that whatever just happened was paranormal.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_04: So it's it's I guess you could say like a very scientific way to think about it, but I'm just not like, oh, everything is is paranormal or everything is not paranormal.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_04: There's a happy medium somewhere.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_04: I just happen to lean more towards there's gotta be a rational explanation first, and then if it's not, then okay, yeah, we tried everything else, all that's left is uh paranormal.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_05: So and that's what we tell everybody.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_05: Uh is we for 21 years we told everybody be skeptical.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_05: I want you to question everything because yes, we have a belief that there's something beyond this.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, if you look in outer space, I know UFOs has been a big deal on the news with the government stuff.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's like if there's something like that out there, anything can be possible, but question everything.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_05: Not everything is paranormal.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_05: Don't jump straight to the conclusion that something is haunted, you know, investigate it, question it, look at it from every side.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_05: It was like uh someone had contacted us because her angel would turn and she wanted an investigation.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_05: So we go to the house, do a preliminary kind of walkthrough.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_05: On the other side of the wall is the washing machine.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: And it's like I was like, ma'am, could you could you go do a laundry load of laundry real quick?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_05: And she did, and guess what?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_05: The angel turned.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_05: Um, it's like an experience of mine.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_05: We lived in the house out in Flower Bluff, and for whatever reason, one night I was upstairs, and I've I had seen a couple things in the house, and I always just kind of yeah, don't ever investigate where you lay your head.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_05: I learned that a long time ago.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: But there was a little like wet bar, and one night I walked past it and the water came on by itself.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_05: So I walked around, I turned it off.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: I walked back around, it turned itself back on.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_05: Now anybody can sit there and go, it's the pressure stuff.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_05: But I'm sitting there going, it's never done that before.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_05: So I walk around, I turned it off, and I went, listen, if y'all want it on, turn it on.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not turning it back off.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_05: I'm going downstairs, I'm I'm going to bed.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_05: And uh it didn't turn itself back on, but I couldn't explain it.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_05: But I can't say that it is paranormal.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_05: It's just something that's unexplainable that I'll take with the rest of my life as an experience.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: So that's awesome.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: So you mentioned like history, how it's part of it.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: So the next next segment we're talking about is culture, history, and legends, I guess.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: And real quick, before I talk about that, like I've heard people like in Corpus, like if they're in a house, a new house, they're like, has somebody did somebody die in this house?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: People ask that, you know what I mean?
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I don't know why they feel weird.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, so how do uh Mexican American and coastal band cult uh cultural traditions shape local ghost stories?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I would think it does shape it because I mean your culture is your culture, right?
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: You grow up how you grow up, and one person may believe something somebody else doesn't believe.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so you're gonna grow up hearing lure throughout your culture, right?
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: One family member passes it to another family member and so forth.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think it just shapes it.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, you have the story of I'm gonna say it wrong, La Verona, right?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so you hear people tell that story over and over again, but you're gonna run into somebody else's like, what are you talking about?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: But then they're gonna say, Oh, well, the story of the crying lady across the road or wines for her children, right?
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: And they're like, Oh, that's this in my culture, or Chapita Rodriguez, right?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right, or Chapita Rodriguez, right?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think culture has a lot to do with just anything, no matter where you're from, even if you're not from South Texas, we can go to Arizona and they're gonna know the same stories, even though they're not from South Texas.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it kind of just depends on your culture in general, what your background is.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so so you'll see that overlap uh between culture and we even see that online.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: We posted a story, I don't remember what it what it was called, um, on Facebook the other day, and people were coming in there commenting, oh, we call it this here, and they were like up north somewhere.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, but they were they knew what we were talking about.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_04: So, like the La Llorona, um, I guess she she gets around because like she was in California because there was a video posted, you know, in California that they're saying, like, oh, you can hear the cries of La Llorona, you know, by the water and all that, but it's just a drainage ditch that had water going through it.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and I'm all like, come on, it's the mom singing rest of the skeptical part of me.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_04: Like, like she got frequent fire flyer miles, like like she she gets around more than I do.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, or even like the chupacabra.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've heard stories, people in New York saying they saw the chupacabra, and I'm like, it's like Bigfoot.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Were they on the sidewalk in New Jersey?
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what's happening here?
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_04: Those are giant rats.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_04: R O U S.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Kukui, that's the movie.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm like, what is that?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we just grew up saying it, you know.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_04: That that's just a like a generic kind of boogeyman term, whatever anything.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: And the movies don't help that any right, because they made a movie after La Lorona, right?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: And there wasn't there a movie that came out, and so and like the boogeyman movie, like yo, real quick, shout out to uh um the Night Creature Productions.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: They actually made a movie.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_05: You know, you know that do you know uh I don't know him personally, but I've ran into them a couple times at some events.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_05: I've seen some of their stuff.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_05: We follow each other on Facebook.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_05: There, that's great, yeah.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, definitely.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they made one on on El Cucumber.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_04: I was about to say that Anthony beat me too.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_04: The Chupacabra originated in Puerto Rico, so yeah, um, it got here somehow.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_04: Um, have you heard of the Montauk Monster?
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, because that that gets into like cryptids and stuff, but apparently the they think that the Chupacabra was uh the Montauk monster or a version of the Montauk Monster.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh those like some kind of hairless thing, whatever the washed on the shores of someplace.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sure Anthony will chime in.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh 50 States of Terry, y'all gotta check out this podcast.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but um uh just so some hairless animals showed up and and uh people just automatically that's chupacabra, and then they tested it, and it turned out to be something else.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_04: But um, I at least I think that's how it went.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_04: But I I don't know.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, I'm I'm skeptical of that because it's like coyotes.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, but you know, but you know what I love about it is I love because we there was a location that we were trying to get it, it was a big debacle about it.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_05: It was a yes, then a no.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_05: But um, we were trying to feature this season on the show, and basically we were told that ghost stories and legends like that don't play a part in Texas history.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, it does.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_05: That is what what part of Texas history is built on is these stories that's passed down from generation to generation and how they transcend us.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_05: They don't they're just not right here.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_05: They're they're in Mexico, they're in Oklahoma, they're everywhere around the world, everybody has their own versions of it, and it's amazing to see how those stories change in each region and how it just keeps those stories alive.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_05: I love that aspect of all this.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: So cool.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: So, regarding like uh stories and stuff, do you know before you do an investigation?
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: Do you do research and how much do you how much research do you do?
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_05: Or we try to dig as deep as possible.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_05: We'll um we usually rotate where we choose one person, like, okay, it's your turn to do it, and they go investigate the history, the location, and everything they can find about it, cool, and then they'll compile it in a file, and then it's just buried until after the investigation.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_05: So then it was like, well, we got this name.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_05: Well, wait, I got this on history.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_05: That name, just like that hospital was telling me about the shotgun, we had gotten in the EVP from there, it says I'm Dr.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_05: Trott.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_05: Well, after doing the historical research, there was a doctor there that worked there.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_05: He had a heart attack after delivering a baby, makes it back to his office, collapsed.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_05: They transport him to Houston where he passed away in transit.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_05: But we got a male EVP that said, Hi, I'm Dr.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_05: Trott.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_05: Well, we did the more research.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_05: His family practice is still there.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_05: So the word gets to his daughter, who is still alive.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_05: So we bring her in the hospital.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_05: We go up to the room where he delivered babies.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_05: Mind you, this is the dead of summer, heat and sweat like crazy.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_05: And um, that room turned ice cold.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_05: She got in there and she was crying.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_05: We got responses on EVP.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, we went through it.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_05: I don't have any of those anymore.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_05: I gave them to her for private.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_05: That was a private moment for her.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_05: But um it was one of those moments where it was like really where you could see the other side connecting with what's still here.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_05: And, you know, that's why we always say, you know, do that history research.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_05: That history will connect, and that will give you even more legitimately to the evidence that you capture.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: Speaking of research, I want to talk about a boogeyman that some of our listeners think is a boogeyman, which is AI.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: Do y'all use that for research?
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_05: Or I've used it, I'm guilty of using it a little here and there.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_05: I I like uh I like freaking her out on the whole, it has a voice and talks to you.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like I like, I like that.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I think it's interesting.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um of course, Anthony will probably be like, you know, hey, he's one of the AI and the devils, but I mean, I and I understand where he's coming from, but at the same time, it's like any other tool.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's just how how much power are we gonna give this thing?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_04: You know, that that's my concern.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_04: But I will I will use it just I'll use it as a starting point and then take it from there, you know.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_04: That's where you give it that human touch.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she gets on me sometimes because I'll write stuff and she's like, This is wrong, that's wrong.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_05: It's like fine, I'll just throw it in chat GBT.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_05: I'll I'll I'll humanize it, we'll be all right, you know, so it'll make sense.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_05: But uh, you know, like I was telling her, I said, wouldn't it be crazy to take like chat GBT, put it on the voice thing, take it to investigation, and have it do EVP work.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yo, that would be crazy.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_05: I haven't seen anybody haven't seen anybody do that yet.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_05: And it's like, man, I just leave it sitting in a room, set a camera up, and let if it starts talking to something, it's picking something up.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_04: Set a uh a recorder or something so you can capture it.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_04: That was that is yeah, I like that idea.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's next level, bro.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I was gonna do.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_04: I like that idea.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna ask.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do you how do you how advanced do you think AI will get from where it is now?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_02: Is do do we over like underestimate how how powerful that it could be?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think we do underestimate it.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think it's definitely gonna be a lot more.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's Terminator, it's T2, it's coming.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just coming, yeah.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_05: Well, you've got Elon designing the uh robots to go to Mars.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_05: You put chat GBT in its head.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's that right there.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean, and even some of the apps that are out there, like Ghost Box and Ghost Box and things like that, they're all AI gems.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, they've got those already.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're out there.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: We use when we do public investigations, people will come in and like, I don't have any equipment, I can't afford the equipment.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, You do your phone.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, your phone is a piece of equipment.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, and we've actually used Ghost Box, we use it, you'll see us use it on a TV show.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: But the only reason that I use that is because I've actually captured EVPs that correlate what comes across on that.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I can validate, okay, maybe this, yes, it's AI generated.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we use AI with this.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: But maybe it is actually worth its weight in gold because I'm actually capturing real evidence on real equipment that matches it.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_05: But it's kind of like the ovulus.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_05: A lot of people they'll think this computer generated voice.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, the theory is that um the energy it picks up, it can select what words, but in all honesty, it's a digital Ouija board.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_05: If you really look at obvious, it's a de it's a digital Ouija board.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_05: It really is.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, there's Anthony chiming in.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: He says, Gemini, you can use Gemini.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I use Gemini sometimes.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh wow, uh, let's see, 40 42 minutes.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I was gonna hand it over to Ben here.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_02: Ben's got some questions.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um, before y'all went on your like very first investigation, right?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, what did y'all like expect it to be like?
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_04: Because I I know my preconceived notions like what was it for y'all?
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_05: Well, our stories are gonna be a little different.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_05: She's been doing this for 14 years with us.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_05: I'm 21 years.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um the I can remember the first investigation.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_05: I I want to say it was in Rufirio, and this actually this investigation came back and bit me a little bit um all the years later on the show on season two or three, the Alice tattoo shot.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh season one.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_05: No, it wasn't season one, it was I was season two.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_05: But um, we went out there and I I didn't know what to expect.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_05: Now I was scratched on that investigation, and that was something that they had talked about.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_05: But I think in the back of my mind, is I just didn't want to screw up and look bad in front of the homeowner.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_05: It's like I want I want at least know them to think I know what I'm doing.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm a rookie at this.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_05: And uh so many years later, the woman had contacted us because she had a shop in Alice, she's she owned a tattoo shop, and she was still dealing with the same thing.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: My dickie didn't know it was the same woman, and so we were interviewing her.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: She started talking.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_05: And they had a moment in the mirror, and they looked at each other like she started talking, like we had this other group come out there, and I'm listening, and I'm like, Huh, I know that wait, that's me.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_05: The bad part about it was is I was scratched on my back, right?
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_05: I'm in the house, so I lift up my shirt, not knowing that I was showing my buttocks to everybody outside.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_05: So everybody, I hear everybody just start busting.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: Laughing and I'm like, everybody laughing about, and I hear on the radio, shh, Moni, pull your pants up.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_05: Oh man, the camera there.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, but what is I never remember my first investigation?
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't tell you.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: Is that bad?
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it would be yo, it'd be your town, I think.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, I went to a residential with y'all.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was the one in Rockport where the guy thought we were hanging from trees.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh man.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um I've sometime soon come back.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_05: We have lots of just blooper stories.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_05: We can be here all night.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, for another residential where the priest came in.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um, that was Rockport.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: So two really odd ones in Rockport.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out, Rockport.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: I really I don't think I had any preconceived notions.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm one of those people that's just like, let's just do it.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not somebody who like overthinks things.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I think I didn't really have any like, oh my god, this is gonna happen or that's gonna happen.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was more of a like, let's just see what happens.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm not an overthinker.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_05: Um, she's the level-headed one out of the relationship.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: Well, how do you do that?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, what's that like?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I don't, I mean, if anything, it was kind of more of a like, is this gonna be like it is on TV, right?
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is anything going to happen, or is this just gonna be a waste of four hours and never get back with my life?
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I guess that's pretty much mine.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_04: Uh for me, okay.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_04: So my first real investigation was Mineral Wells, the Haunted Hill House.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_04: Now you talk about being thrown into the deep water, they they throw you into a house with you know suspected demonic activity.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_04: And I went in there thinking, like, you know, I'm gonna be like the TV shows and I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_04: I totally punked out.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_04: Like I I was telling my wife, like, don't don't leave me out.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_04: Like, so and and after that, after I realized, you know, that I kind of punked out, whatever, I I kind of changed my mindset a bit.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_04: That's when I it's like no one's ever died during an investigation.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_04: So the next investigation was Yorktown.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_04: So I was kind of, you know, my my buddy Scuba was all like, hey, I need you to take this camera down to the basement and put it where okay.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_04: So I went and I did it.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_04: He came back.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_04: He, you know, he's looking at me like, who are you?
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm all like, you know what?
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_04: This is kind of my redemption, you know.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_04: So uh we did go back to the to uh haunted hill house afterwards, and again, like I said, I I conquered Hill House.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_04: So there you go.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_05: If you could say it like that.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I still get scared on investigations.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's moments of hesitation, anxiety, and it's like, okay, it's that moment of I'm in a jail, haunted jail, and I'm alone in the dark.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_05: What am I doing?
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_05: Uh you know.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I ran from manigans at Yorktown.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: She did.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I walked the whole hospital, no flashlight, nothing.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: And an investigator and I, she had a flashlight in her hand, and of course, at that time they were using it for storage for a haunted house.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: And we had walked up that main corridor, I don't know how many times, and she flicked her flashlight, and my peripheral vision caught a room full of people that wasn't there the hundred times that I walked by it.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: And at that point I ran.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_05: So she could have qualified for the Olympics coming out of that front door.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, Yeah, what's going on?
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_05: Doing hurdles and stuff.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was like, whoa, hello.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_04: But they were like, she got the pole, right?
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, you walked that entire hospital with no flashlight and now you're running.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, because that room people was not there the 10 times already walked by it.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you you were talking about uh what were we talking about?
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um just now, um like what am I doing, right?
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: Is that is that like a form of imposter syndrome?
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do you do you get that?
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: You know what imposter syndrome is?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, I get totally.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um, it's just it's one of those moments where you can't believe you're doing what you're doing, and then everything else kind of hits, and it's like, why am I doing this?
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_05: It just kind of hits you all at once, where it's kind of like, I've been doing this for how long?
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_05: And it's just kind of like, okay.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: And then you kind of just go back to what you're doing.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_05: But you just have those moments where I've been in locations like um, I've been in the Own Ways County Courthouse, I've investigated the On Ways County Courthouse.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_05: And the first moment I walked in there, uh the gentleman who was in control of it handed us the keys and said, Lock up when you're done.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_05: And I had that moment of out-of-body experience, like, did that just am I where you know how many people would love to be in my shoes right here?
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_05: So you have that moment of like, this is surreal.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_05: There's places in corpus and other places I've had to sign NDAs that I cannot discuss that I've been in those locations.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_05: And uh just going in there standing in those locations, and you have those those moments where it's like, I can't believe I'm getting to do this.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, it's pretty, it's it's surreal.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right on, right on.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, you got another question?
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_04: No, that's that's a good word for it, is surreal because it really is a surreal situation because you're putting yourself, willingly putting yourself into uh the unknown, and that for for humans, normal humans, that's the most terrifying thing is being you know, where you don't you're not in full control of your situation, of your capacities, of your senses sometimes.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_04: And it takes a lot of nerve.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_04: And and people think like, oh, it's fake, it's this, it's that, a lot of preconceived notions.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: But then you say, Well, why don't you come along?
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_04: And they'd be like, nah, yeah.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_04: So you you have to have a kind of nerve.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_04: And I applaud the people who do it.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um and and who have uh faced it, you know, the with uh with grace and and with humility and and with uh with a sense of adventure, because it really is an adventure.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: It is, yeah, for sure.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: And even and that's not to say that like I know I say like you know, whatever happens, happens.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's I every time we go into an investigation, I have that moment of like, all right, I'm not fully in control, but it's gonna be okay.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like you have to like pep soft yourself, just like anything else you do.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_05: But I also think when it comes a moment where you walk into a place and you have no emotion, no fear, no anxiety, I think when that time comes, it's time to hang it up because you you have to take in every sense of every location because you do, you feel it.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's some people who believe that houses uh and buildings have they vibrate a certain frequency and you feel that frequency inside those locations.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_05: But you know, when that moment comes and you don't get that excitement and you don't get that fear and you don't you don't have those emotions, it's probably it's my time, it's time to let you know.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_05: I I told Days uh over at Blackbeard's, you know, he was sitting there and when we did Blackbeard's uh season before last, and I told him I said this is our last time investigating here, and he's like, Why?
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_05: I said, Because it's time to let someone else come in here and it's time to let them have fun.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see what let's see what they get now.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I we opened so many doors through the years to so many locations that didn't open doors to paranormal groups, and I see groups now, and they're going into these places and the evidence they captured.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_05: Like Steve, he's gone to a lot of places, he's captured evidence, and it's like, wow, that's awesome.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_05: And it makes me happy that we have been able, if if anything, we've been able to open the door a little bit more because there were other groups before we were around, and then for the longest we were the only group.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Becky Schrolin, she had Corpus Christi Paranormal Group, and Sabrina had the South Texas Paranormal Society.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_05: Those were the two groups that were here when we started.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_05: And um, and of course, Corpus Christi Organization of Paranormal Science.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_05: That was a group that we had joined back in the day, and that's such a long name.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_05: Such a long name.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_05: But it's amazing to see what these groups and what the evidence they captured and if it anyway connects to things that we've captured.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the way it should be.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: It shouldn't be this big competition of like, oh, I went here and I captured that versus what you captured.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, it should be this big society of people working together and being, oh, cool, you caught that.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: Not the competition, the community, or as I call it per-unity.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, there you go.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, cool.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um we actually did investigate um Blackbeards.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um, my wife went with me.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_04: She had uh uh she was in in the ladies' restroom uh doing some EVP work when something whispered in her ear.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_04: And we were like no one was around her at the time.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_04: And so um that was one of the situations that really I don't want to say freaked her out, it just excited her.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_04: She was like, this just happened, and and you know, you could tell she was just like, I gotta just keep going, you know.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_04: So that's one of the things that that it's never happened to me.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_04: You know, situations like that.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_04: I've never gotten touched, I've never gotten grabbed, I've never had something whisper.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, what what is it about me that I'm not gonna find.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you had a question in here uh for years, Ben.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: It says, uh, what did you learn about yourself during your first investigation, or what do you what have you learned your about yourself doing these investigations?
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: Has there any been any like like reflective moments like you know what I'm saying?
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like we're always growing, we're constantly growing.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I learn stuff every day you know, doing the podcast, you know.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_02: I learned stuff.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: I had some ladies yesterday, it was like the first women's edition, so even there I had some reflective moments about myself.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_02: Do y'all have that when y'all are what in what y'all are doing?
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I mean for me all the time.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: I would say definitely all the time.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think every investigation is a room for growth, right?
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like it shows you that you are capable of doing something you thought you couldn't do.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's times that we go into investigations, and I'm kind of like, okay, well, we've been here before, nothing's gonna happen.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but then something happens, right?
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's one of those things, never doubt something.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, just because you've experienced something once doesn't mean it's always gonna be that way, like, right?
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know a lot of times, even going through life in general, like, oh well, I've been in this situation, this is how it's gonna turn out.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's not gonna be that way this time.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so just that self-reflection.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_05: I think for me, it's it's kind of opposite.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_05: Um, it's it's kind of strange.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_05: The paranormal has given me so much, but it's not the paranormal side of things.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_05: Um, the paranormal gave me the love of my life, the paranormal has given me so many friends.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, every year we play, well, I last couple years she's she's kind of ducked out a little bit of Mrs.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_05: Claus, but we do letters to Santa in the Cal Allen area.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_05: And we play Santa and we go, you know, like we said, we work with special hearts and uh Toys for Tots and just all these events that we've been a part of that's just because of the paranormal.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, last year when we did the Halloween live on TV, you know, growing up, I remember watching Chris Six, watching Del Nelson on there, watching uh all the news things.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_05: And I was like, I sat there and I was like, my goodness, look where my life has taken me.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_05: And it's those moments that the the paranormal was the vehicle to take me to all these great moments in my life and give me so much and give back so much.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_05: So that to me is kind of how where I reflect on all of it.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's cool.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, man.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm always I'm always curious about people's lives and how how they change, you know what I mean.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_02: And so I guess there's people that you may see think that they don't change, you know what I mean?
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_05: But you have to, you have to cut anybody that sits there and says, you know, you're never gonna learn anything new.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_05: No, you learn you if you at the end of the day, if you don't look back at that day and say, I learned something, you need to look back at the day and continue to learn and improve and evolve every single day.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: You have anything else, Ben?
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_04: Well, just to add on what you're saying, like people need to evolve evolution.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, look what happened to the dinosaurs, they didn't evolve, so exactly try to avoid that kind of unless it's Jurassic Park, they'll be back in a year or two.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_05: So all right.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: Let me put the switch, switch, whatever.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, any personal experiences y'all ever had?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, go ahead.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, uh I don't know.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_02: I guess I can there was a guy I was working with.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: I was training him, right?
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a truck driver.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: We were training, I was training at like at night, and he's into like, did you see this?
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_02: Did you see that?
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_02: And he was he got next to me one day, he was like, Do you see that guy over there?
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_02: And that and like it's my my peripheral vision.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I think I can see, you know what I mean?
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_02: I can't and then I look over there, I'm like, no, there's nobody there.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_02: And then that was already enough for me because I'm a big scaredy cat.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no, get away from me, you know what I mean?
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, I I I guess I'm skeptical, like maybe it's just you know, a peripheral vision or something like that, you know what I mean?
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm real like, and then too, like I'm wondering what what's the cross between like uh angelic demonic and ghosts and stuff like that, too.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm just like, is is it is it which one is it?
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: So um I I kind of just leave it alone altogether because I guess because I don't, I don't know, I guess just don't want to mess with it.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_02: So uh that that's kind of my experience, my experience with it.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_04: Makes perfect sense.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_04: My biggest in I don't want to say like paranormal experience, I didn't and again I'm I'm gonna kind of build off of what he said.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if it was real or not.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_04: Um I was driving home from Fort Hood.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_04: It was in a uh we're almost I'm almost to um the one rest stop that's outside of the city, like that first rest stop that's right there, there's fog everywhere.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_04: I'm going through the underpass, and as I pass the underpass, I look to my side, and there's a dog running alongside the road trying to keep up with the car, but the dog is torn up.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_04: Like you could see the skeleton and everything, like the the organs and all this, and the dog's faces, you know, half skull and everything.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm just there looking at this thing for a good 10-15 seconds, and then a pole passes by and the dog's gone.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, Did I just see what I thought I saw?
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_04: Like, nah, that can't be real.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_04: And again, I couldn't go, I wasn't recording, I couldn't go back and rewind, whatever.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_04: But to me, that's like my okay, there's something else out there.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_04: So I wanna I want to find out what it is.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_04: So that kind of lit my spark.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_02: So wow, that's awesome! Yeah, that's cool.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I guess uh let's see what do we got next.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I wanted to shout out some podcasts.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_02: I know you guys got one.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_02: You have another episode coming up soon?
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: Paranormal Distortion.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you gotta talk to her.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_05: She's I try to keep us on schedule, she throws me off.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm good for.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I'm in for paranormal distortion.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_02: We got uh Recycle Corn podcast, of course, and then uh 50 States of Terror.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh That Dude Talks by Chris Langoria.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_02: He's a comedian in town.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: They just had the first episode come out today.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, who else?
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um The Slow Roast podcast with uh uh Andy Blake and Joe Hillard.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_02: Check that out, it's pretty cool.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, who else do I got out there?
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_02: Ride and High Podcast.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: These are all local podcasts.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to check out local podcasts, these there's a bunch of them.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_02: I just just stumbled upon a lot of them.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_02: Act actors coming together uh by uh Mario from who's part of the uh Night Creature production crew.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_02: They talk about act, they talk to actors.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's really cool, it's really neat.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then who else I can't remember right now?
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_02: Scuba has his yes, um cry crypto um yeah, I can't remember the name of it.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: Scuba, I'm sorry.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh crypto uh, I don't know.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_04: If you guys cringe crypto cringe, there you go.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_04: There you go.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_04: Crypto cringe podcast, uh yeah, podcast, and then of course, something somewhat supernatural, his uh um paranormal podcast.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's I'll say this, it's amazing how many podcasts are in corpus, and they're all they're all equally just as amazing to check out, and everybody needs to.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_05: There really is.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_02: Crypto cringe.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_05: There it is.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, check them out, add them to your Spotify list, and that way you can be notified whenever they got a new episode.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_02: Are you guys on Spotify?
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_02: No, we're not on YouTube.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_05: We're on YouTube.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_05: We have been trying to be more social media minded for a long time.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_05: We weren't social media uh mindful, and we've tried, you know, I've got 21 years of evidence, and it was all about websites back in the days putting everything up on websites that people go to.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_05: Now it's YouTube.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_05: Who no one goes to websites anymore?
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_05: It's Facebook, it's YouTube, it's TikTok, it's and you know, we we have Paranormal Fear Haunted House, and then we've got the show, we have CC Spook Central.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_05: We've got probably about four or five pages, so we do all those all the time, and it it gets daunting at times.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_05: So it's uh we're trying, we're trying to get better with it.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's overwhelming.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's overwhelming.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_05: The Facebook algorithm, I mean, it it's you have to have that niche.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_05: And if you post something that isn't that niche, it doesn't get the reach.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_05: And it's like, I'm trying to advertise something, just just let people in the blood gates for a minute.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_04: That that that's one of the reasons why like my podcast really hasn't grown as much because I'm just I refuse to play the game.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm all like, if people are gonna find me, they're gonna find me.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I I do what I do, I post what I post.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_04: Um, it is what it is.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm just gonna let it happen organically.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a game, it's done.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_05: No, yeah, I I I like the challenge.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_05: It's like back in the day, the Xbox 360, where you get the little achievement.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_05: I check, it's like, oh yes, okay, I'm I'm in the right direction, you know.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_05: So I I I get a little bit of kick out of it at the same time, you get burnt out really quick.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, especially with South Texas haunts, because you know, now we're right here October.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_05: It's okay, we gotta pick it up a little bit.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_05: We we get all our clips and advertise the show and and get it out there and stuff like that.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, this coming Saturday will be our first episode for the premiere of season five at Presidio La Bahia.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_00: Nice 9:30 on KDF.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_02: Congratulations, man.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's awesome.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_04: It's awesome, you know.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be it's gonna be awesome.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_04: I I I loved it there.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's such a good time.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_05: It's an amazing place, and uh, you know, the great thing about now is we were at one time just kind of just on Chris Six and of course on uh KDF, but now they have Chris Six Plus, where every Saturday night you can catch an episode of South Texas Haunts.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so we're now more we've grown more so everybody because we have fans in the UK, that's awesome, and it's like I don't know why we have fans in the UK, but they're cool, right?
• 1:02:19
  unknown: That's dope.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then it also gives because KDF isn't available on every cable channel or cable provider down here, and so being on Chris Six Plus, if you've got streaming, you've got an option to watch South Texas Haunts.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so wow, that's cool.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's that's amazing.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's not even I'm thinking like cable, right?
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_02: But shoot, it's streaming on YouTube.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: Roku, everywhere.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Roku, yeah, fired, whatever Amazon.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_04: You deserve your success.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_04: Well, thank you.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_05: Well, thank you.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_05: It's but it's all it's a lot of work.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_05: Even with the show, a lot of people, you know, the show's 22 minutes, and then we do an out was an hour and a half or an hour for Halloween, and we're there so long to get 22 minutes.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_05: And it's and there's a lot of like, uh well, I don't sleep.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_02: What is it?
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_02: Do y'all edit it yourself so you hand it off to somebody?
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, we handed it off to the studio.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Gilbert, shout out to Gilbert Corpus, he's the guy that edits it.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, this season there's one episode.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_05: I got the chance to edit my own episode this year, and uh, I'm looking forward to it being broadcast.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I've I've dipped my hand a little bit into the editing.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_00: But we did go through all the evidence, right?
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: So if we're at a location for 10 hours and we have 10 auto recorders, that's what 100 hours of things we have to listen to or watch video, and so that's daunting as well.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: But it's worth it.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_04: I do not envy all in that.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_04: I hand it off to Scuba.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_04: I'm all like, here you go.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_05: But he seems like someone who really gets into that whole just headphones on and just run with it.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: He laughs at me because I can watch TV and listen to audio at the same time.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh exactly, you know what?
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_04: Women's feebrain, I guess.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_04: Women are are are natural multitaskers, men are not like, and and it blows my mind because my wife is the same way she can she can she's watching a TikTok and she's watching a movie and she's listening to me talk and she knows exactly what's going on with the history, and I don't know how she does it, but she is a y'all are incredible.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_05: But sometimes I feel like I should carry a little holy water when she walks around and knows exactly what I'm saying from two rooms over, watching TV, doing EVPs.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, there's something evil going on there.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_05: She grabbed another air.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_04: You look at her and you flip her off and she's like, I saw that.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, no, you are facing the other way.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_05: No, or when I get on.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: We know all.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: We know exactly what's going on.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_05: Or how she knows when I'm on eBay looking at an automotive part, and I hear that my phone go off.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, how does she know?
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: How does she know?
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm never tell.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_02: Might be sense.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_02: It is on my you're you're not listening to me.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_02: You're always listening.
• 1:04:48
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so we'll we'll do some uh rapid bonus fire questions, or whatever you want what you call it, uh, for the what almost before we wrap it up.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, if a ghost could text you right now, what would it say?
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: What are you doing on a podcast?
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_05: Shouldn't you be doing something?
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_04: It would probably say you totally bitched out at uh or it's like I watch you.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, ah whatever.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_05: I watch you sleep pretty much.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh which horror movie character would you not want to on your team?
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_02: Art the clown?
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want Art the Clown.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_05: That that could be.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know who Art the Clown is.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_05: Terrifier Terrifier.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_05: There's just something creepy about that.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_05: Like I Jason Voorhees I love, Freddie Krueger, yes, all that stuff.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, this that Art the Clown guy is just like, I don't know, it's just the way he looks, he's like Yeah, he looks she looks great.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_04: He looks creepy.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_04: I think Freddie would be a good time to Freddie, yeah, for sure.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I wouldn't want to party with the dude, but I mean all I know is the beep button would be going off every five seconds on the show.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_02: If you could investigate any haunted place in the world, where would it be?
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's easy.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: Castle overseas.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: Somewhere.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_05: Um Chernobyl's Chernobyl.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_05: I want to go to Chernobyl because if you think about it, spirits need energy to manifest themselves to do something.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_05: What's the most energy and rich place in the world, Chernobyl?
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_05: 24-7 all day.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_04: Have you ever used a Tesla coil?
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_05: Uh investigation?
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_05: I've seen it used, but I've never used one.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_05: But I've seen that it does, there is some positive results to it.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_04: I bought a mini one off of Amazon.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_04: It's like 40 bucks.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_04: I I recommend it.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_04: Especially if you're not having uh uh luck with a room that you know has activity, pump it full of of electricity with the Tesla coil, and it'll change.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_05: I think season six, we might have to do that.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_05: Either that or it's gonna be a really good blooper of the show.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_04: You got ideas, I got ideas.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_04: I saw I saw it on which I'm not gonna take credit for that one, but it does change things.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_05: You know what's crazy?
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_05: We don't watch any of the paranormal TV shows.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, we try to keep it original as possible.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, you you watch something on TV and it's like, oh well, you know, now we'll incorporate that in the show.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_05: And to me, that's kind of like stealing a little bit from other shows doing stuff.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_05: I like the ideas, don't get me wrong on some things, but I like for us to remain as original as possible.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_05: And if we get no evidence, that's what you're gonna see.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we didn't get any evidence.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_05: We're not gonna hype it up and be like, oh, it's this, and it came out and had tea with us.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_02: And that's very interesting because like you you want to think that you're always gonna find something.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you don't.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a lot of these shows.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_05: It's like um Jason with Ghost Hunters, he had talked about a little bit about it about when they were doing the first two seasons of Ghost Hunters.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_05: They would do like 20 episodes in a season.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_05: The season wasn't that long, but they wouldn't get anything, but they cherry-picked every single one, so you got something.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_05: We don't cherry-pick episodes, we've gone to places there.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_05: There's one haunt one place they claim to be extremely haunted in corpus, but I can't say it's haunted, but I'll say there's paranormal activity.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um not every place we come across, and not to say there's nothing there, it's just that time we were there, we didn't capture anything.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think that helps with people still wanting coming back to watch the show?
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like you, like them knowing that you might not see catch something, or you know, I think it has.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_05: I we've gotten positive reviews on that where it's kind of we're honest, we're we're we're straightforward.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna we put the evidence out there, and you might hear something different than what I hear, but I want you to tell me what you hear, and I'll put that out there also.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_05: It's the paranormal should not be a debate, it should be a discussion.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_05: And we all should continue to discuss every piece of evidence, scrutinize it, go through it a hundred times, and just put the ideas out there of what we think it is, what we think we've heard, or what we think we see.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, man, that's passion right there.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_02: I hear the passion coming out of it.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's so often, dude.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's unionize.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, we should do this.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_05: We'll just start the paranormal network, and then everybody's got a show.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_02: So you mentioned something about having a database, everybody putting it on there.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_02: Is there like pushback between other investigative groups and stuff like that?
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_05: There has there has been.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_05: Um, when we first started out uh in the paranormal, there was other groups around, they want to be the first, they want to be the best, and then there was a lot of trash talk or paradrama is what we called it.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_05: And uh when you come across groups like that, you just ignore them.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_05: They're gonna there's there's that old saying, if people's talking stuff about you, you're doing something right.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_05: And I've had plenty talked about us in our group and stuff like that, but I don't fire back, there's no reason to fire back.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_05: We just do what we do, and if we're doing something right, then and I think 21 going on 21 years and the fan base that we have and the people that put trust in us, knowing that when we go to a place that we're gonna be honest and truthful and put the evidence out there and the history, and you know, I think I think it's paid off, and you know you react when people see like an H E B or something, and they're like, Hey, that's Monty.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_00: I was at a suicide symposium last year and I was called the ghost lady.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_00: I was there for work and I was at our table talking to some coworkers, and this lady walks up and she's like, Oh my god, you're the ghost lady, right?
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Yes.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's it's one of those, and I don't like attention by any means, like I'm not that person.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so for me, it's kind of like I try to avoid it as much as possible, which I shouldn't.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_00: He tells me all the time, don't avoid it, like we are who we are.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for me, it's kind of just it's strange in all of reality.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because I mean I was born and raised in corpus, like I know everybody and anybody just about like I can't go to HB and not see somebody that I know.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but when it's for the paranormal, it switches a little bit for me.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_04: That's when the imposter syndrome is kind of like I'm just doing what I do.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_05: I've had people come up and it's like you're you're South Texas Haunts, right?
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I'm part of South Texas Haunts, and I'll sit there in H E B or Walmart or wherever with someone talks, and they'll everybody have a story, and I'll doesn't matter what's going on, I'll sit there and I'll listen to every story because to me that's a little piece of the history of CCSC of South Texas Haunts.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_05: We're part of that, and we're carry those stories on and hopefully get to pass those on.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_05: And uh it's it's weird to get recognized from time to time, and it's also it's strange, but it is cool.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't gonna lie about it.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_05: It's kind of cool sometimes, you know.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_05: But uh just you know, always remain humble and kind, and that's what I try to do.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_04: I I've had a uh a couple of situations where people come up and they're like, I know you from somewhere, and I'm like, It's the underwear ads.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_04: I'm making the rounds again.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_05: You know the one that I the one I love is you if you're going to Walmart and there's those people and they're either selling power or cell phones or whatever.
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_05: I love and they go, Who do you have your electric electricity provider?
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, Oh, my neighbor.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_05: I just wrote the forward.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_05: Who do you got your internet by?
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_05: My neighbor, he hasn't figured out the pathway.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_04: No, I always tell them, like, I just switched to you guys.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I do I got it from my wife, and she's like, try it, try it.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_04: We were at Walmart, and they're like, Who's your electric provider?
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_04: Man, we just switched, it's awesome.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_04: Man, the rate is this and that, whatever.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_04: Like, oh, I'm so happy, man.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, I just walk off.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_02: What's your favorite horror movie?
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_02: Promise done.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_02: A few more questions.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, I'm not a favorite.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a big horror buster.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, does it have to be horror or can it be like uh what do you think?
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, everybody's gonna know if it's if it's a ghostbusters.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_02: No, okay, it's gonna be ghostbusters.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_02: I like the the late the two latest ones they came out were pretty cool, yeah, and how they connected it to the old one.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_02: That was awesome.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_05: And yes, I cried too in the theater.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_05: She has a video of it.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, she's not the other girl.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, it was hard when when all of a sudden you saw the hand grip the one, you feel it right here.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, what are all these tears?
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's just like, are you okay?
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_02: And the dude didn't even have to say a word throughout the whole movie.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_05: No, you know, I mean, the last time I cried at a movie was me and Marley.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_05: That that that hit hard, but Ghostbusters uh Afterlife, that was cool.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my goodness, that would hurt.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_00: So this I always knew he'd get a good horror movie, right?
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because all the ones that have been coming out lately aren't really like good, like in my opinion.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_02: What do you consider a good horror movie?
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Something that's gonna scare me.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, okay.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's gonna make me faint.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_05: You know, to to bring a little corpus history into a horror fan flick, I'll call it a fan flick, the Smith Building video.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_05: That scared the living between them.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Rossley Corner?
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_05: Huh?
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_05: The the one downtown, not that far from here.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, I didn't know.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, that video when I first got a hold of it, it kind of scared me a little bit.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I had yeah.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_04: You have you heard of the Smith Building?
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_04: What is it?
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_04: I've never been there.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_05: It's right here off the well, it's a a building building now where it used to be, I think it's apartments now.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_05: And uh there was act after doing the historical research, there's three graves that's there.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_05: It was actually a saddle shop, and uh this couple of painter guys went in there and they captured a whole bunch of stuff happening.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_05: Now, of course, through the stories, some people say that was faked.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I went to school with the guy, his name is Mike, and um I went through that video and I found things that I can't I can't find a reasonable explanation.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_05: Like there's EVPs in there, there's certain things falling from the ceiling.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know how he pulled it off.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I know later on I think he said that there was, you know, some of the stuff was faked in it, but that really it was one of those moments like, wow, that scared me.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_05: That that kind of put a little bit of fear into me.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_04: Well, if we're talking about things that you watch that scare you from the past, I mean, there's the video from my first wedding.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_04: Well, we won't get into that.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Do you ever get nightmares from from the stuff that you do?
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:14:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I have dreams about investigating, and it's not really nightmares.
• 1:14:35
  SPEAKER_05: Um it's kind of weird.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's like a a a haunted house movie, but in investigations and things floating, it's the things that never happen.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_05: And uh crazy.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_05: I sometimes like I tell her, I was like, I can't wait till October 31st gets here just so I can have a break from because if I go and do investigations, then I go to sleep.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_05: I'm still doing investigations.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't, no.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm a truck driver, and like sometimes I if I work, like if it's a like a long week and I do a lot of loads, I'll be asleep and literally like I'll wake up like like a card coming straight at me.
• 1:15:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's and I'll just go like this.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's so crazy.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_02: Because your brain's still going.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because the brain is like constantly on it.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_02: You always you always thinking about it.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything else you want to share before we before we uh close up?
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_05: No, uh, thank you guys so much.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is fun.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_05: Ever's when I we first started following the page, I always told her, I said, Man, sooner or later I want to go on there.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_05: I want to talk.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_05: So this is an honor to really be on here.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you, thank you.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I funny, I didn't find you through the haunts, I found it through your personal page on TikTok.
• 1:15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which by the way is pretty cool content, man.
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the car stuff, yeah, definitely.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I need to do more.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a little behind on projects, but uh I'm gonna get to doing it.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's all good.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so South Texas haunts everywhere, is that where we find you guys?
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we're on every social media platform TikTok, Facebook, um, X, Instagram, Instagram.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_00: You name it, we're there.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_05: Nice.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_05: All the episodes are on our YouTube channel.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_05: So if you want to bench watch it, and then of course every Saturday night at 10:30 on Chris Six Plus.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_05: And starting this Saturday night on KDF, I think it's 9:30.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, go ahead, sorry.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Pursuit Ola Bahia and then repeats on Sunday at 11:34 on Chris Six.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, that's a very specific number.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_04: We don't pick that up.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_04: You want to mention something before we take out Ben?
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_04: Uh check out Recycle Corn.
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_04: Binge on my stuff.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_04: I got really good stuff on there.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_04: Well, the past few episodes.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, they they are really good.
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you, man.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_04: I I'm like waiting for it to because I do you do do you post like uh like every Wednesday, every Monday, or I I try to I try to do it, I try to schedule it where the episodes drop on Fridays, or should I like Friday at midnight, or you know, Thursday midnight, whatever.
• 1:16:45
  SPEAKER_04: So into Friday.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but I I I need to record this week.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I'm gonna get some episodes lined up so they're they're taken care of for for October, but they're all gonna be Halloween themed, but still with the unshucked uh the other the series I'm doing is Unshuck Yourself.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: We said it's a self-help series.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um and it's all gonna be uh Halloween themed, but still within the self-help um, you know, uh genre, theme, whatever you want to call it.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um it's just advice that I've heard.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um that again, you know, it's it's it's uh recycled and I've heard it before, so I'm gonna put it together and I'm gonna put it out there.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I'm sure everyone's heard the same advice before, but sometimes you just need to hear it from somebody else to be like, oh, you know what, that makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let's let's get started.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that that's what that's my idea for.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I was asking when you drop it because I'm always waiting for the next one to come out.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's fine.
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  SPEAKER_02: Dude, the sound quality is great.
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  SPEAKER_02: This the how you script it, it's just it sounds awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes you I can barely hear the music in the back, but I mean I but it sounds sounds good, bro.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like it's really good.
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  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, I just don't want the music to overpower what I'm trying to say.
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it works, it's working.
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  SPEAKER_04: I appreciate it, man.
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  SPEAKER_04: That that means a lot, especially coming from you.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_02: The Recycle Corn podcast.
• 1:18:05
  SPEAKER_02: I've I listen to you on Spotify.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's how I listen to podcasts, but and you guys podcast coming out soon.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so this wraps up today's episode for the Corpus Christi Originals uh podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks to Monty Prescott, Shauna Davis of the South Texas Haunts, uh, for sharing uh their stories and giving us um a glimpse into what uh what they're doing, the paranormal side of South Texas.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and special thanks to my co-host Ben De Leon um from the Recycle Corn podcast for bringing a fresh perspective and great questions and insights and just bringing his bringing his whole aura in here is awesome, man.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you want to follow Monty and Shauna's work, check out South Texas Haunts uh anywhere on the socials, the social media for the latest investigations.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_02: YouTube, you can binge watch on there.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for listening.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_02: Subscribe, share, reshare.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we'll see you on the next show.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_02: Stay tuned.
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_02: See you guys later.