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Charlie Kirk Hearing Exposes Candace Owens' Conspiracies · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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Speaker 2: and Jim Garritty of National Review.
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Speaker 1: Free Martini's coming up.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Friday edition of The Three Martini Lunch.
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Speaker 3: We're so glad you're here. Jim Garrity is back and
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Speaker 3: we should be together for quite a while now in
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Speaker 3: the day is going forward here, so we're excited about that.
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Speaker 3: But thanks to everyone who's cast hosted, including Scott Bertram
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Speaker 3: who's in for Jim yesterday and Jim. Obviously, events in
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Speaker 3: Maine have kind of consumed most of our attention this week,
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Speaker 3: and there's still a little bit of drama left there.
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Speaker 3: But one of the other things that was going on
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Speaker 3: this week out in Utah is the preliminary hearing to
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Speaker 3: make sure there's enough evidence and boy is there to
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Speaker 3: go to trial as it concerns Tyler Robinson, the guy
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Speaker 3: accused of murdering Charlie Kirk in September of last year
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Speaker 3: at Utah Valley University. And so, you know, in addition
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Speaker 3: to the fact that we want justice in this case,
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Speaker 3: unfortunately Erica Kirk and her family and the people close
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Speaker 3: to Charlie Kirk have had to deal with this maniacal nonsense,
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Speaker 3: primarily from Candace Owens, but also from others who continue
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Speaker 3: to chime in on social media and elsewhere, trying to
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Speaker 3: blur the lines blatantly live what have you about what
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Speaker 3: actually happened that day and who's responsible for it. I mean,
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Speaker 3: Candie Owens has more purpse than you know Kennedy assassination conspiracies.
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Speaker 3: So we've got a lot of clarification this week that
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Speaker 3: I'm sure she's going to try to spin away in
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Speaker 3: a number of different ways. But we also know that
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Speaker 3: Tyler Robinson confessed three separate times to murdering Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 3: He confessed in a text message to his boyfriend, a
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Speaker 3: guy named Lance Twiggs, who is now cooperating with the
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Speaker 3: prosecution in exchange for limited immunity. He confessed in a
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Speaker 3: discord chat. He confessed to law enforcement. And so despite
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Speaker 3: all that, despite the DNA on the rifle, despite the video,
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Speaker 3: there's still, you know, a thousand conspiracy theories blooming. But
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Speaker 3: a guy on Twitter who's been followed it goes by
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Speaker 3: Florida Dad. This is just a non comprehensive list, he
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Speaker 3: says of Candace Owen's lies debunked in just the past
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Speaker 3: forty eight hours. Candace Lie Robinson never on campus. Truth
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Speaker 3: four times, multiple camera angles. Candace Lye Charlie had an
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Speaker 3: exploding mic. Truth. Bullet fragments were found in his neck.
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Speaker 3: Candace Lye twigs messages are fake. Truth pictures were taken
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Speaker 3: directly from the phone, and he admits authenticity. Lie Robinson
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Speaker 3: couldn't possibly have jumped off the roof of that building. Truth.
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Speaker 3: There's video of him jumping off the roof of that building. Lie,
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Speaker 3: gun and AMMO would have had an exit wound. Truth.
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Speaker 3: The AMMO he used was designed to break apart inside
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Speaker 3: the target. Lie couldn't have sent messages already in custody.
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Speaker 3: Truth sent messages an hour before, and on and on
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Speaker 3: it goes, including supposedly that Robinson wasn't the right height
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Speaker 3: for the person in the video. That's been debunked as well.
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Speaker 3: And so I'm sure the grift is going to keep
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Speaker 3: going here, Jim. But it's good to know that the
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Speaker 3: truth is lining up with what all the rational people
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Speaker 3: thought all along.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen some folks on x speculating, well, this
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Speaker 1: is the end of candas O, that this is going
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Speaker 1: to be the end of this crazy conspiracy theory. This
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Speaker 1: is going to be such a thorough soup to nuts
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Speaker 1: beginning to end, refutation of every crazy conspiracy theory that
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Speaker 1: has come out of her mouth and other podcast hosts
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Speaker 1: as well, that this is going to destroy their credibility
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Speaker 1: once for all and no one will ever listen to them. Sadly,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily going to come to pass.
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Speaker 1: There's always going to be an audience for this. There's
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Speaker 1: always going to be people who choose to believe in
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Speaker 1: the really and exciting and dramatic conspiracy theory than in
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Speaker 1: facts that are depressing but you know, accurate. But I
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Speaker 1: was thinking about Greg, when's the last time you heard
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Speaker 1: anybody talking about QAnon? You know, like, this was a
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Speaker 1: very big deal in Trump's first term, tied into that
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Speaker 1: nut job Pizzagate, the guy I went into the comet
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Speaker 1: pizzeria and this one this is constantly, Oh, the storm
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Speaker 1: is coming, and don't you want Trump and the administry.
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Speaker 1: There were this giant child abuse rings being run by
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Speaker 1: celebrities and Hillary Clinton and all these other folks, and
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Speaker 1: the only reason they hadn't been arrested yet was that
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Speaker 1: Trump was getting all the pieces into place. It was
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Speaker 1: going to be checked mat and then as Trump got
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Speaker 1: closer to leaving office at the end of his first
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Speaker 1: term with some bumps in the road, there was a
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Speaker 1: state like, well, don't you wait, it's common, It's common,
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Speaker 1: and then he flew away on air Force. On the
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Speaker 1: end of it. I was like, oh, oh, there isn't
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Speaker 1: going to be a sweeping chain of arrests. Oh this
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Speaker 1: enorymous QAnon as in anonymous did not know what they
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Speaker 1: were talking about. There were not actually a highly placed source.
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Speaker 1: And so here's like, you don't see a lot of
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Speaker 1: people defending QAnon these days. You don't see anybody who's
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Speaker 1: willing to say yes. I was a diehard believer in QAnon,
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Speaker 1: and I was completely convinced that they're going to be
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Speaker 1: sweeping crackdowns and rounding up of suspects and all that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Everybody kind of just chose to forget
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Speaker 1: about it. Now some of us remember it, like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this was always nonsense. I think in a couple of
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Speaker 1: years from now, everyone who could choose no one will
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Speaker 1: ever be willing to admit yes, I believe what Candice
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Speaker 1: Owens was saying. I believe that there was a grand
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Speaker 1: was it French? The Israelis Marine, Emanuel McCrone, you know, Elvis,
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Speaker 1: all of them were all involved in this plot to
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Speaker 1: kill Charlie Kirk. You know, in five years, everybody's like
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Speaker 1: there'll be the hardcore dead enders who are unreachable. But
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Speaker 1: I think in the process like this will turn into
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Speaker 1: something that nobody wants to remember. And you know, the
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Speaker 1: only bad news is that Kendice Owens is laughing all
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Speaker 1: the way to the bank.
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Speaker 3: No, she certainly is. But remember she's the only one
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Speaker 3: who's truly concerned about Charlie.
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Speaker 1: So that's why she has to trash his.
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Speaker 3: Widow and his family, his co workers, the organization and
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Speaker 3: so many other things. It's only her, only she is
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Speaker 3: concerned about the truth here, whatever the truth is coming
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Speaker 3: out in this court, I'm assuming this is going to
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Speaker 3: be ruled more than enough evidence to go over for trial,
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Speaker 3: and the mountain of evidence of guessing will probably be
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Speaker 3: enough to convict him as well. But let's not get
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Speaker 3: the cart before the horse. But yes, getting truth out
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Speaker 3: there after so much just absolute nonsense is being spewed
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Speaker 3: And sometimes you just see news that makes you say, what,
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Speaker 3: how is that possible? And here we are forward. The
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Speaker 3: Jewish independent nonprofit site has reported on a new Associated
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Speaker 3: Press NRC Center for Public Affairs research of more than
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Speaker 3: one thousand Jewish adults nationwide conducted June eleventh through the seventeenth,
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Speaker 3: and it found the following Forty four percent of American
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Speaker 3: Jews hold a favorable opinion of Zoron Mumdani, compared with
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Speaker 3: thirty nine percent view him unfavorably. By contrast, just thirty
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Speaker 3: two percent of respond and said they have a favorable
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Speaker 3: view of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettan Yahoo, while fifty
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Speaker 3: nine percent said they have a negative view of the
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Speaker 3: long time Israeli leader and Jim you don't have to
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Speaker 3: love everything Netan Yahoo does to know that he wants
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Speaker 3: the state of Israel to continue to exist, Mom, Donnie
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Speaker 3: not so much, although he won't specifically say it, But
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Speaker 3: what do you make of these numbers?
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Speaker 1: Folks who are supporters of Israel have long lamented that
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Speaker 1: American Jews are not nearly as pro Israel as they
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Speaker 1: would like to see, and that you would think they
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Speaker 1: would be. Because let's say someone says, I want to
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Speaker 1: wipe the Loans World Loan Jewish state off the map.
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Speaker 1: What do you think they want to do to American Jews?
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Speaker 1: What do you think they want to do to Jews?
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Speaker 1: To others, you generally don't find like I know, everybody's like, well,
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Speaker 1: look I'm anti Zionist, but I'm not anti Semitic. So far.
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Speaker 1: If the Ven diagram to me looks like a circle,
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Speaker 1: there's a very tiny, you know, lack of overlap between
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Speaker 1: those two groups. Now, look, if you're a Jew and
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Speaker 1: you are American Jew and you are frustrated with Baby
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Speaker 1: dot and yeah, who that's fair you have there's israelis
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Speaker 1: not just in terms of how they've fought the war
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Speaker 1: against Thomas and if palestin the Islamic Jihad and these
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Speaker 1: other terrorist groups. Israel's heavy handed. And also before all this,
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Speaker 1: you know who was facing corruption scandal allegations he was
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Speaker 1: supposed to believing, Oh, you know, we haven't had it.
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Speaker 1: This has been going on for you know, coming up
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Speaker 1: on three years after October seventh. It's underst you. It's
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Speaker 1: fair to have those gripes. But you know, does this
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Speaker 1: mean that you know, just thirty two percent to have
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Speaker 1: a favorable favorable opinion of him if you have a
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Speaker 1: cent of a negative view, that seems little harsh to me.
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Speaker 1: Even fine, go right ahead, but the positive opinion of
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Speaker 1: zoron mam Dami, there is one problem in this Associated
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Speaker 1: Press and ROC Center Republic Affairs approach of like that
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Speaker 1: more than one thousand Jewish adults. I would have liked
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Speaker 1: to have seen broken down what percentage of this demographic
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Speaker 1: were fans of the New York Next Because a lot
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Speaker 1: of New York Dicks fans feeling great and mom Donny
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Speaker 1: was mayor and it's not correlation is not causation, but
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Speaker 1: people are feeling better about life in New York City also,
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Speaker 1: But I genuinely would have liked to see a geographic
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Speaker 1: breakdown about whether these were Like, is mom Dommy's approval
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Speaker 1: rating amongst Jews Hire the further away you go from
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Speaker 1: New York City or is it even more bizarre? That
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Speaker 1: is my suspicion of how it has to shake out.
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that you're a Jew in New York
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Speaker 1: City and you're looking at mom Dommy so far and saying, yes,
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Speaker 1: this is exactly the guy I want. This is looking terrific.
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Speaker 1: I will just kind of also point out that, like,
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Speaker 1: if you are an American Jew and you like, there's
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Speaker 1: an old thing about a progressive of someone who won't
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Speaker 1: take their own side in a fight. If you aren't willing,
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Speaker 1: if you weren't willing to stand up against mom Dommi
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Speaker 1: when he starts excusing away Islamic extremism and things like
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Speaker 1: that and offers the most checked the box pro forma
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Speaker 1: objections to anti Semitism possible. If you're not willing to
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Speaker 1: take your own side in that fight, who's going to
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Speaker 1: stand up for you? Why would you expect other people
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Speaker 1: to stand up for you? If you're not willing to
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Speaker 1: stand up for yourself. So a very depressing poll result,
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Speaker 1: I'm not entirely shocked, as I said, you know, the
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Speaker 1: percentage of American Jews who self identify as being pro Israel.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to use the word zionist. I mean
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Speaker 1: just saying, you know, feeling favorably towards Israel, being that's
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Speaker 1: not surprising. But Israel is really not necessarily a priority
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Speaker 1: to a lot of American Jews. They are down the
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Speaker 1: line democratic voters and a lot of other issues, or
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Speaker 1: down the line progressives, And now we see in the
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Speaker 1: end they're much more willing to embrace mam Dami thann Yahu.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mamdani above water. I think that's the biggest sense. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you know, because when someone's been in office as long
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Speaker 3: as Netanyahu, you know, people tend to get tired of you.
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Speaker 3: In addition to you know, policies obviously that they might
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Speaker 3: not like. My sense here is that they just focus
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Speaker 3: more on domestic politics and maybe they just lean to
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Speaker 3: the left. The majority of them lean to the left,
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Speaker 3: and so they they figure he's kind of a popular
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Speaker 3: politician on the left right now, and maybe that's part
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Speaker 3: of it, and they haven't you know, really dug into
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Speaker 3: We've been dealing with the Democratic Socialists for quite a
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Speaker 3: while during this election cycle already, not only in Maine,
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Speaker 3: but the basically DSA backed bul side in Michigan, who
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Speaker 3: Scott and I talked about yesterday. A bunch of self
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Speaker 3: avowed Socialists or even Marxist got basically elected to Congress
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Speaker 3: last month in New York City. But there are others
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Speaker 3: out there. There are certainly others out there, including in Wisconsin,
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Speaker 3: Governor Tony Evers the two term democrat not running for reelection,
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Speaker 3: and so the scramble is on as the primary approaches,
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Speaker 3: and one of the Democrats running for that seat is
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Speaker 3: the socialist, the Democratic Socialist candidate for governor, Francesca Hong.
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Speaker 3: And of course, as you're identified as a socialist, the
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Speaker 3: media will give you at least a perfunctory question about
14:24
Speaker 3: what do you mean by socialism, And so Francesca Honk
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Speaker 3: perhaps coming up with a definition of socialism that most
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Speaker 3: people would not have expected.
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Speaker 2: I think that when folks hear socialism, they may be
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Speaker 2: taken aback. But I bring it back to potholes and
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Speaker 2: the packers, and public education and issues that have broad
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Speaker 2: bipartisan support and broad bipartisan opposition like data centers and
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Speaker 2: then support for our public schools and universal childcare, lowering
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Speaker 2: working class people's taxes by taxing the wealthiest few in
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Speaker 2: mega corporate rations. These are issues in conversations that I'm
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Speaker 2: having with folks in every corner of our state that was.
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Speaker 3: On MS now, And so basically it's the old Well,
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Speaker 3: government is the things we choose to do together, like
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Speaker 3: Barack Obama used to say. But seeing the packers throwed
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Speaker 3: in their Gym. Obviously, as a Bears fan, I love
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Speaker 3: to be able to, you know, tar them as a
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Speaker 3: socialist entity. I really the NFL is a socialist entity.
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Speaker 3: I think she's talking about, you know, the fact that
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Speaker 3: you can be a personal shareholder of the packers, which
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Speaker 3: doesn't really give you any power other than to prevent
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Speaker 3: them from ever moving. But this effort to just kind
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Speaker 3: of whitewash and paint away what socialism is is always
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Speaker 3: quite the tap dancing to watch here from the left.
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Speaker 1: First of all, Greg, when you begin by describing two
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Speaker 1: term Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, the fact that he has
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Speaker 1: a second term represents one of the all time Republican failures.
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Speaker 1: The man is human wallpaper.
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Speaker 2: He just is.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's dry, but the Sahara says that
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Speaker 1: he's got a ways to go. He just just a
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Speaker 1: you know, a vortex, a black whole of charisma in
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Speaker 1: which no light can possibly escape. And yet somehow we
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Speaker 1: got two terms. Great job, Wisconsin. So when I hear
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Speaker 1: a Democratic Socialist of America say that they are socialist,
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Speaker 1: I've now reached a point where when you're invoking the
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Speaker 1: green bape like I would agree, Yes, socialism is a
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Speaker 1: pothole on the road to America's future. I would say
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Speaker 1: that what was the other example she had given that?
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Speaker 1: That is the public educators? Public education? Yeah, data centers
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Speaker 1: aren't bad, therefore we shouldn't have them. How many data
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Speaker 1: centers is that signal from ms now going through to
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Speaker 1: reach or to post online in order to get you know,
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Speaker 1: heaven forbid we have any of those? No, So one,
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Speaker 1: how do you define socialist? And why do you think
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Speaker 1: of yourself as a socialist? Because I have a sneaking
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Speaker 1: suspicion that a lot of the young people would say, well,
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Speaker 1: I really like to use social media and like, no,
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Speaker 1: that's not what makes you a socialist, right, or you're
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Speaker 1: a very social person. No, that's not what socialism has
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Speaker 1: anything to do with whatsoever? In this case, I really think, okay,
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Speaker 1: how are the Greeners a socialist institutions? When Jordan loved
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Speaker 1: to say, look, I'm only throwing one pass to each receiver,
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Speaker 1: and nobody gets a second target until every receiver, every
17:11
Speaker 1: running back, and every tie end has had one. That's
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Speaker 1: you know, to everyone according to their needs and according
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Speaker 1: to their means. That the so there's not that then
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Speaker 1: the actually is like you know, oh so yes, it
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Speaker 1: is a publicly owned institution, so are a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of corporations. Like why wait, why are you if if
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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers are a socialist institution because members
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Speaker 1: of the public own it, why is the Coca Cola
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Speaker 1: company not, or or you know anything anything else you own? No,
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Speaker 1: that's totally different. Okay, fine, I'm looking at over the
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Speaker 1: right that's every backup long Snapper, Special Teams Guide stuff
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Speaker 1: like that. Right now, the Jordan Loves guaranteed salary for
17:55
Speaker 1: this year is forty nine point nine forty nine million
17:57
Speaker 1: dollars and nine hundred thousand dollars got in a bargain,
18:00
Speaker 1: not fifty million a year, just under that. So clearly
18:06
Speaker 1: like that's not a socialist everybody gets paid the same amount. Argument,
18:10
Speaker 1: So what is the argument that the Green Bay Packers
18:13
Speaker 1: are a are a socialist institution? And I went over
18:17
Speaker 1: over at Jacobin. Jacobin's, by the way, were the ones
18:19
Speaker 1: of France who killed like millions of people. But now
18:22
Speaker 1: Jacobin Magazine has this article, you know, if you're a socialist,
18:27
Speaker 1: root for the Green Bay Packers. And he says, let's
18:29
Speaker 1: get one thing straight. By Josh Androski, Let's get one
18:32
Speaker 1: thing straight. The Green Bay Packers are the only socialist
18:34
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. And I took kind of like
18:37
Speaker 1: how and I read through this whole article and it
18:38
Speaker 1: entirely gets down to this. You know, they're publicly no,
18:42
Speaker 1: but they have public ownership. Okay, but again, lots of
18:45
Speaker 1: other institutions they're not for profit. Well here's the thing.
18:48
Speaker 1: When what are your people, your employees is getting paid
18:50
Speaker 1: forty nine point nine million dollars, You're really like, you
18:54
Speaker 1: can't like the institution may not be trying to profit.
18:58
Speaker 1: There may not be dividends to stock holders or shareholders,
19:01
Speaker 1: but plenty of people associated with the Green Bay Packers
19:05
Speaker 1: are making plenty of profits. So saying, oh, they're a
19:07
Speaker 1: not for profit institutions, no, that's not really how this
19:10
Speaker 1: is getting. So what it is is that like, people
19:13
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin really like the Green Bay Packers. You know,
19:16
Speaker 1: you may think they're crazy for it, but you know,
19:17
Speaker 1: people tend to root for the local team, and as
19:20
Speaker 1: a result of it, socialists in Wisconsin want to say, well,
19:24
Speaker 1: people like the Packers and we want them to like us. Ergo,
19:28
Speaker 1: if we call Green Bay Packers a socialist institution long enough,
19:32
Speaker 1: eventually people will start to associate it and think, oh,
19:34
Speaker 1: socialism is like whit things. No, it has nothing to
19:36
Speaker 1: do with that. And again, if you're paying someone forty
19:38
Speaker 1: nine point nine million dollars, are you really a socialist institution?
19:42
Speaker 3: That's a good question. You know, don't play with the
19:45
Speaker 3: Packers would be my political advice to Hong. I mean
19:49
Speaker 3: the loyalty of the Packers fan base statewide. I don't
19:54
Speaker 3: know anyone in Wisconsin who cheers for any team other
19:56
Speaker 3: than the Packers. And so to the extent.
19:58
Speaker 1: They just they grab you and like leave you at
20:01
Speaker 1: the state line.
20:02
Speaker 3: If you know, it's like a birth it's like a
20:04
Speaker 3: birth right there.
20:05
Speaker 1: They're so loyal.
20:06
Speaker 3: In fact, there was one years ago now, but like
20:09
Speaker 3: the water companies were pointing out that during Packers playoff games,
20:12
Speaker 3: like all the surges came exactly at commercial breaks and halftime,
20:15
Speaker 3: and so I mean the whole state and so it's
20:18
Speaker 3: unlike anything you've ever seen. And so trying to tie
20:20
Speaker 3: the Packers into your political agenda might work with people
20:23
Speaker 3: who already like your political agenda. The people who don't
20:26
Speaker 3: instinctively like your political agenda might resent that. So hopefully
20:30
Speaker 3: she gets beaten the primary, and if she wins that,
20:32
Speaker 3: hopefully she loses in November.
20:34
Speaker 1: Yo. Look, everybody in Wisconsin baptizes their child in Bilveda.
20:37
Speaker 1: But Wisconsin, we love you. We love your breweries, we
20:40
Speaker 1: love your Honestly, like every time I've been to Wisconsin,
20:42
Speaker 1: I've had a great time. They're wonderful people. But don't
20:44
Speaker 1: fool yourself. Your football team is not socialist.
20:47
Speaker 3: For you know, as much as there's a robbery between
20:48
Speaker 3: the Bears and the Packers, I'm not sure I would
20:50
Speaker 3: point to the Packers as socialism. There's That's not the
20:52
Speaker 3: way that I would accuse them. So anyway, when we
20:56
Speaker 3: come back, we'll be taking a look at a little
20:59
Speaker 3: bit of a controversy one of the many flyovers that
21:01
Speaker 3: we experienced over America two fifty. But now it seems
21:04
Speaker 3: to be resolved. All right, Jim, there is a little
21:12
Speaker 3: bit of a dust up that seems to be resolved now.
21:14
Speaker 3: You know, there are so many flyovers in DC and
21:16
Speaker 3: elsewhere as a result of America's two and fiftieth anniversary
21:20
Speaker 3: declaration of independence. But for eight Apache helicopter pilots, they
21:25
Speaker 3: were temporarily suspended after they did this salute from the
21:30
Speaker 3: shore event. Basically, they kind of buzzed the beaches and
21:33
Speaker 3: their investigation started that they might have been unsafe and
21:37
Speaker 3: how close they buzzed the beaches. The statement from the
21:40
Speaker 3: South Carolina Air National Guard, which is one letter away
21:43
Speaker 3: from scaring, is currently reviewing the flight profile of the
21:47
Speaker 3: Apache helicopters that participated in the event. As his routine.
21:51
Speaker 3: The pilots involved in the flight have been temporarily suspended
21:53
Speaker 3: from flight duties pending the outcome of this review. Well,
21:57
Speaker 3: at least one user on x pointed out, you know
22:01
Speaker 3: what's going on here? Why did they suspend? No specific
22:04
Speaker 3: reason given. Pete Hagsath, the Secretary of Defense Secretary of
22:09
Speaker 3: War says from his private account, we'll fix this. Carry on, patriots,
22:12
Speaker 3: and then the spokesman for the Pentagon, Sean Parnell, says,
22:15
Speaker 3: effective immediately. This is this morning. The suspension of all
22:18
Speaker 3: involved South Carolina pilots has been lifted. So Jim I
22:21
Speaker 3: suspect that probably would have been the outcome anyway, but
22:25
Speaker 3: safety is obviously paramount. But based on the footage we've
22:28
Speaker 3: seen here, I don't think anyone was in grave danger,
22:30
Speaker 3: as Colonel jessp would say.
22:32
Speaker 1: So, first of all, when you're talking about fun acronyms.
22:34
Speaker 1: In South Carolina, what we would call the state Police
22:37
Speaker 1: is the State Law Enforcement Division or SLED. So you
22:40
Speaker 1: often hear about the you know, the investigation by SLED,
22:43
Speaker 1: and I just start thinking of you know, Rosebud or
22:45
Speaker 1: things like that. So so we get some deep cut,
22:49
Speaker 1: high minded literary and cinematic references on this plast. Yes,
22:53
Speaker 1: so if you watch the video, first of all, yes,
22:55
Speaker 1: it looks really awesome. Two, those helicopters are flying over
22:58
Speaker 1: the beach really low. I don't know if a swimmer
23:01
Speaker 1: could have reached up and touched them in the water,
23:03
Speaker 1: but like not that much higher than that. So on
23:06
Speaker 1: the one hand, you're like, wow, that's awesome. Second half, Wow,
23:08
Speaker 1: that's really low. I am very it's probably I'm pretty
23:11
Speaker 1: it's pretty unlikely. They probably violated some sort of Federal
23:14
Speaker 1: Aviation Administration recommendation about the lowest altitude you can fly
23:18
Speaker 1: around you know, populated areas and things. Like that. So
23:21
Speaker 1: you know this, is it surprising that some of these
23:24
Speaker 1: guys got in trouble? No, it's not. However, first of all,
23:27
Speaker 1: you know this this minor reprimand, and you know, fifty
23:30
Speaker 1: lashes with a wet noodle, you know, seems appropriately the
23:33
Speaker 1: most minor punishment seems possible because no one meant any harm.
23:36
Speaker 1: It is understandable, like, you know, nothing went wrong this time,
23:38
Speaker 1: but God forbids something. You have some mechanical issue and
23:40
Speaker 1: you could end up with, you know, you know, a
23:43
Speaker 1: helicopter crashing in the water. I go to Hilton Head
23:46
Speaker 1: pretty regularly, and the Marine Corps recruitment depots at Paris Island,
23:51
Speaker 1: they have helicopters going all the time. It's awesome, but
23:53
Speaker 1: nonetheless they're nowhere near as low as that one. Having
23:56
Speaker 1: said all that, Greg, what is the one thing Hollywood
23:59
Speaker 1: has taught us about the US military, particularly when it
24:01
Speaker 1: comes to pilots. And they yell always buzzing the tower, right,
24:05
Speaker 1: They're always you know, breaking regulations and of course they
24:08
Speaker 1: get back to base and the commander's red faced, and
24:11
Speaker 1: I got to tell you you've broken the rules. Your
24:14
Speaker 1: eCos wright and checked your body can't catch oh yeah.
24:16
Speaker 1: And like everything in Top Gun, it's always Maverick. He's
24:19
Speaker 1: always breaking the rules. But then when it comes time
24:22
Speaker 1: to punish him, we can't afford to lose them. He's
24:24
Speaker 1: just too good, right, So what do you hear? What
24:27
Speaker 1: are they in trouble for flying the helicopters too low
24:29
Speaker 1: at the beach and you know everybody thought it was awesome.
24:31
Speaker 1: This is exactly the sort of circumstance. So like, yes,
24:34
Speaker 1: you yell at them, you tell them not to do
24:36
Speaker 1: it again. As one reader had suggested, you tell him
24:39
Speaker 1: I don't want to see you doing this at the
24:40
Speaker 1: three hundredth anniversary. Yeah, don't do this fifty years from now.
24:44
Speaker 1: And you say, all right, yell, that was awesome, don't
24:47
Speaker 1: ever do it again. That seems like they're appropriate outcome
24:49
Speaker 1: for this particular controversy.
24:51
Speaker 3: Permission to buzz the tower, negative ghost rid the pattern
24:54
Speaker 3: is full. And also you tell them if it happens again,
24:57
Speaker 3: they'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog
25:00
Speaker 3: stuff out of Hong Kong and hopefully they get the message. Yeah.
25:04
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