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The silent Harvest: China’s state-sponsored organ trade · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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It's time for the truth be told with
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Booker Scott.
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Over the last four or five years, with
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my growing advocacy on different subjects here on
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the program, whether it's politics, societal, or cultural
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issues, there are just some subjects that I'll
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bring up that seem to get that look.
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That deer in the headlight look.
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It seems that many people just want to
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bury their heads in the sand.
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Let me give you a quick example of
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a few of those.
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Human trafficking.
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I've done programs on that.
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And something that's just made up.
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Sex trafficking is another one.
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Child sex trafficking.
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All of those seem to bring that same
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response, a glazy look in somebody's eyes.
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Is it because they don't believe it?
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I think it's something different.
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I believe it's just too much for most
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people to consider.
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Life is easier when we just don't have
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to think about the bad things in this
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world.
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Forced organ harvesting.
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That's another one.
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And that one got your attention.
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It's almost far-fetched.
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Doesn't seem like it could be reality.
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But I'm here to tell you it's real.
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I'm Booker, and this is The Truth Be
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Told.
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Tonight we discuss the business of harvesting organs
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from live, unsuspecting people for profit.
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Estimated to be 800 million to 1.2 billion
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dollar industry worldwide.
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It's a real problem.
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We can't afford to bury our collective heads
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in the sand and ignore the atrocities.
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Dr.
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Torsten Trey, MD, PhD, has been nominated for
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Nobel Peace Prizes.
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Received major human rights awards.
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He is currently the executive director of Doctors
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Against Forced Organ Harvesting.
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They're based in Washington, D.C., and I think
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their name tells you all you need to
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know about what they do.
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He also co-edited the land of our book,
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State Organs, Transplant Abuse in China.
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And his most recent work is the documentary
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Silent Harvest.
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That recently had a viewing by lawmakers in
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Washington, DC.
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And he is also an international speaker.
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He has briefed policymakers, medical professionals, and human
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rights forums all over the world.
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Tonight he's going to brief us.
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Welcome to the program, Dr.
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Torsten Trey and Dr.
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Trey, thank you for being here.
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Thank you, Booker, for having me.
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It's um so important, and I'm very thankful
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for that.
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It's so important that we have these platforms
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like yours where we can talk and share
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the information that we have.
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I think this is one of those subjects
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that people want to bury their head in
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the sand.
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I think when you think about harvesting organs
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from a live human being, it's just something
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that people don't want to deal with.
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And this is what you do.
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You advocate uh to bring attention to this.
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Talk about it, talk about where this is
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done, how it's done.
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I mentioned that it's 800 million to 1.2
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billion dollars.
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We know that China is involved with this,
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but explain what this is so the listeners
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will have an idea of what you are
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dealing with on a daily basis.
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Yes.
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Uh usually people are familiar with the term
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organ trafficking, where uh especially kidneys are traded
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from uh from people who want to make
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money and they go undergo a contract and
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sell the kidney for money.
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But what we found is in 2006 is
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that in China, prisoners are attentionally categorized as
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organ donors and then killed on demand.
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And this has grown to to become a
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business, an industry.
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So it's not only they are they are
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killing people without consent, but they are targeting
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certain people, dissidents or how do they how
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do they target them?
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I'm sorry to interrupt you, but how do
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they target them?
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Is it because they're vocal and are against
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government?
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So they're just one of those that are
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be targeted to take their organs while they
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are alive.
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Yeah, so so it is not the typical
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criminals who are convicted in a court that
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become uh um subject to forced organ harvesting.
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It is people, for example, the Falungong uh
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movement that practices uh a spiritual practice with
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following uh truthfulness, compassion forbearance, and uh is
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doing like qi qigong like uh exercises.
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They are they have become target for the
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CCP uh since 1999.
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And the government, the CCP government wanted to
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eradicate uh uh erase these people, and instead
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of using a firing squad, which would cause
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tremendous outcry in the world, they they are
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just doing it in a in a stealth,
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I would say stealth manner, by bringing them
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to the uh operating rooms and then killing
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them on the operating table, taking the organs
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out and using them for transplant.
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So it is a very targeted um uh
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method where on the uh for example, the
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uh uh in since 1999, the Falun Gong
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practitioners were targeted, and uh then later in
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2018, uh maybe around the 2018, the Uyghurs
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were also uh being targeted, and we are
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now actually very concerned that um with a
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Christian population of maybe 50 million in China,
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that this practice can uh uh next target
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Christians in China as a way to eradicate
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and erase them.
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Is this only happening in China or are
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there other places in the world where this
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happens?
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Well, this would not happen in a country
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with a rule of law, but there are
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um there are there's organized crime and there
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are there might be cases where single individuals
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are also subject to forced organ harvesting.
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But I would say those uh those numbers
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are very limited because uh think of this.
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If you if you have uh uh transplant
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recipient, there is uh whole machinery to identify
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the recipient, the donor.
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So so it if you do it on
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a large scale, then um the you know,
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investigators and police could also uh basically find
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out which um organized crime is involved.
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But if you have a whole society as
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you have in China, a whole society that
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Have in China, a whole society that is
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is following the instructions and um the rules
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following the instructions and the rules from the
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from the CCP from one party, then everything
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CCP from one party, then everything is aligned.
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is a line.
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It's not only the police, the the guards,
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It's not only the police, the guards, the
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the doctors, the hospitals, everything.
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doctors, the hospitals, everything.
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So the forced organ harvesting in China is
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So the forced organ housing in China is
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happening with the knowledge and actually support of
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happening with the knowledge and actually support of
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the Chinese government.
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the Chinese government.
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Dr.
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Dr.
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Trey, I read about a uh transplant tourism
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Trey, I read about a uh transplant tourism
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that happens.
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that it happens.
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Where do the Chinese
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Where do the Chinese sell these organs?
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Who do they sell it to?
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Is it just the Chinese people that want
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it?
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Or is there such a thing as this
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tourism for transplant?
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Yeah, so of course, um uh of course
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this practice is criminal, and uh China doesn't
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want the world to know about it, and
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they they influence the media not to report
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about it.
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So you won't find um that China is
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exporting organs to other countries because then there's
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a question of tra uh transparency and traceability,
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etc.
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They rather would avoid that.
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So the transplantation are happening in China, and
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they are feeding uh several different groups.
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One are the the is the the regular
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uh Chinese citizen, but a transplant is very
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expensive.
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It would cost like an annual salary.
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So there are not too many Chinese patients
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who can afford it.
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The next group, uh the biggest group is
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probably the uh international patients, transplantors who come
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from different parts of the world, from Asian
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countries, from Europe, from the American continent, and
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especially from Middle East.
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And um the third group is probably the
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the Chinese officials, right from the top, you
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know, from the president to the Politburo members
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to officials, they are also benefiting from uh
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from these organ transplants.
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And you might have heard that a situation
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with the hot mic that just happened maybe
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uh a couple of months ago between President
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Putin and President Xi, yeah.
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They were actually openly discussing that with transplantations,
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one could maybe live up to 150 years.
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So they are actually on the presidential level,
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on the top level, they are actually aware
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of this practice of getting organs on demand.
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In their case, they're looking for it for
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themselves so that they can stay in power
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for another 60, 70 years, even though they're
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getting up there in age.
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Yeah, that that is their dream, yes.
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Yeah, that's terrible.
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It's a face, a fascinating subject, I believe.
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Let's talk about the process and how this
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is done.
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Because from what I understand from what I
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have read, that you can kind of target
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uh this practice by how long someone is
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waiting for maybe a liver or uh a
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kidney or something like that, because it it's
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very short, because most of us know in
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America that when you get on a list,
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it could take forever.
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Some people die before they even get the
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opportunity to have a transplant.
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So we're talking about days here in the
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in some of these cases, aren't we?
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We do.
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So um for a kidney in the US,
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you have to wait maybe five years for
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a liver heart, maybe one year.
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So that in China it is reverse.
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It's it is not an altruistic organ donation
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system.
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It is what I describe as on an
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organ on a transplant on demand system.
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Think of Amazon Prime, you order something, you
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get it within two days.
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In China, you most of the times you
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get your organ within two weeks.
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However, there are cases, uh, for example, uh
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a few years ago, a Canadian traveled to
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China and within three days he got a
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kidney.
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Or you you remember during COVID, there were
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several cases where patients had an emergency lung
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transplantation and they just waited one one day,
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24 hours for a donor lung.
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And then there was a compete, there was
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a competition between hospitals and actually in one
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month, and I believe it was March uh
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2020, there were documented in the Chinese media
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at least eight lung transplantations where the recipient
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only waited two, three days.
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So that is absolutely impossible.
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You don't hear that.
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If I talk to other doctors who do
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uh lung transplantation, there were there were my
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it was mind-boggling to them because it you
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have to not only is uh is this
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about the uh the the uh blood type,
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but also the shape of the lung needs
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to fit.
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So all of this within a day is
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almost impossible.
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And so you you what the the procedure
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here is when we say on demand, you
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have 500,000 or a million Falun Gong practitioners
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detained, all of them get blood type, blood
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tested, medically exam, and then you have a
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data bank.
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So if a patient comes, he they just
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immediately within 10 minutes, they can find the
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person, the the prisoner who would fit the
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requirement.
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And then they can uh transplant that organ
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really on demand demand uh within days.
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If I were being detained there and they
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came knocking for me, that that would not
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be a good thing, would it?
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You know what's going on at that point
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because no one ever comes back from that
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surgery.
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And do they kill somebody first and then
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harvest the organs?
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Or do they harvest the organs and then
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the let the person die?
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It's basically in the in the same at
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the same moment, because there's um uh for
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doctors, they know that if the um organ
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is uh the the if the organ the
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the younger the organ is, the the fresher
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the organ is, the better is the result
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for the transplantation.
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So if the person is killed first, then
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the blood uh transfusion of the of the
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organ is stopping.
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So then at that point, the the lifetime
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of the donor organ is being uh is
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kind of uh dropping.
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So in order to avoid that, they place
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the they place the uh donor, so-called donor
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on the operating table, inject something that he
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cannot move, and then they take it out
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and within five five minutes or so the
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the organ is transplanting.
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And you can't live without organs.
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Is that how they die or is that
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humane in any way?
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It's already inhumane, but uh is that how
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they die?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Is that how they die though?
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Just because their organs have been taken out.
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Yeah, it is the the um human being
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has two kidneys.
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So if you take one kidney out, that
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person could technically still live.
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But all the other organs are essential organs.
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If you remove the heart, the lung, the
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pancreas, liver, the or both both kidneys, the
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person is not able to live.
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And are all of those organs things that
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they are harvesting?
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Yeah, so um, as I said, this is
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Yeah, so um as I said, this is
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an organ on demand system.
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an organ on demand system.
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So if they if they have a list
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So if they if they have a list
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from somebody who wants a kidney, and then
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from somebody who wants a kidney, and then
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there is, for example, no other patient around
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there is, for example, no other patient around
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who needs another organ, they wouldn't uh harvest
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who needs another organ, they wouldn't uh harvest
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the other organs, at least not for transplantation.
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the other organs, at least not for transplantation.
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But sometimes they pile up uh patients and
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But sometimes they pile up uh patients, and
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then they have one who needs a liver,
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then they have one who needs a liver,
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a kidney, a heart, and then these three
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a kidney, uh-huh, and then uh these three
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organs are removed.
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organs are removed.
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It's really on demand, and the rest will
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It's really on demand, and the rest will
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be incinerated.
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be incinerated in as as biohazard in the
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basement of the hospital.
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So to raise all traces.
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And the family of those that have been
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killed as a result of this harvesting.
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Do they know what happened to their loved
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one?
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Or they just not, especially this this is
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a little different here.
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Different when you have uh Uyghurs, detained Uyghurs,
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they want to stay in contact with their
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family.
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So in that case, there might be communication
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in the family would know.
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But in the case of Falun Gong, what
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you often see is that the Falun Gong
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practitioners don't want don't uh release their name
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and don't say where they live because they
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want to protect their family members.
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Yeah, if they say where they live, then
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the family members will also be prosecuted.
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So usually they don't say who the name
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and anything, and then they become simply number
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prisoners and they disappear, and nobody knows that
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they disappeared.
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How many a year?
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Do you have any idea?
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Do you is there a way to know
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that?
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How many people are uh uh go through
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this and have their organs harvested?
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Well, let me put it this way.
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How many people are the Chinese government killing
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doing this every year?
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This is uh um uh quite uh quite
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difficult to assess, but we believe that this
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um uh per year there are maybe 20
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to 30,000 people who are being killed.
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And over the past 25 years, uh we
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believe more than a million people were killed
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uh for uh in the in this regard.
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Yeah, if you're listening and you don't know
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who the Uyghurs are, they are Muslims, they
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are in the north part of China, and
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they are enslaved.
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They make your Nike clothing, they uh that's
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what they are, and China keeps them around
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for slaves.
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And uh, you know, even Hillary Clinton has
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admitted that that's what they do.
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So this isn't a political thing.
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This has nothing to do with politics, it
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just has to do with what the Chinese
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government is doing.
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Dr.
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Trey, who gets the profit?
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Is this the government getting the profit?
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Or is it hospitals and doctors?
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I guess maybe all of them share in
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it somehow.
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Yeah, so um yeah I have to explain
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this a little bit uh a little bit
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longer.
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Um when in nineteen ninety-nine, Falun Gong, the
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the movement of Falun Gong was persecuted.
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Then at the same time, the government has
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reduced the budget of the hospitals.
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So the the the budget was reduced, and
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they were told you can still make money
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through transplantation.
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So transplantation became actually the the main focus
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uh in many hospitals to to earn money.
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And it was uh set up this way
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from the government because the government wanted the
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hospitals to harvest organs from Falun Gong practitioners.
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So here here you see two points.
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One one group, the doctors and the guards
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and the judges, they their incentive is money,
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but the incentive for the Chinese government is
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a different one.
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They want to have something like a final
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solution.
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They want to silence Falun Gong practitioners by
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killing them on the operating table.
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So the incentive was not so much the
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for the the incentive for the government was
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not so much the money, it was the
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final solution, the eradication of dissidents and prisoners
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of conscience.
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That's amazing.
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It uh, you know, it's uh in a
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way, if you're sitting in China, uh you're
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part of the CCP or you're the medical
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doctor or hospital, it's uh just a perfect
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marriage, isn't it?
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Because you are getting rid of those dissident
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voices, and you're also making one point two
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billion dollars a year in an industry that
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is killing people for their organs.
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It works out well together, doesn't it?
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Yes, exactly.
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That that is exactly the the the the
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what is happening in China and this is
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also where we uh in the free world,
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we have to stand up because this is
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not just like uh standing up for against
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an unethical business, but this is something where
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the medical practice, the discipline of transplant uh
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uh medicine is being used as uh as
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a method to kill unwanted, undesired people.
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And that is that that leads the medicine
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into an absurd practice.
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Think about it.
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You kill people to treat uh to to
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provide treatment to other people.
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That if this continues medicine is failing in
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its mission.
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Well, Dr.
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Torsten Trey is his name.
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We have more of this conversation coming up.
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I'm Booker Scott.
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This is The Truth Be Told with Dr.
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This is The Truth Be Told with Dr.
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Torsten Trey.
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Torsten Trey.
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He's a medical doctor, a PhD.
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He's a medical doctor, a PhD.
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I tried to build him up as much
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I tried to build him up as much
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as I could.
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as I could.
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He's had an incredible career.
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He's had an incredible career.
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I did that at the beginning of the
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I did that at the beginning of the
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hour.
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hour.
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And Dr.
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And Dr.
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Trey, something else I talked about was.
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Trey, something else I talked about was that
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deer in the headlight look that people give
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you when you talk about a subject like
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this, you know, human trafficking, sex trafficking, and
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organ harvesting, forced organ harvesting is another one
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of those subjects.
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And you deal with this every day.
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When you're talking to people out there, maybe
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outside of the medical community, what kind of
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looks do you get when you start talking
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about this?
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Oh, in most cases, people are uh almost
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in disbelief and maybe in shock.
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And it takes a few minutes of talking
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about it, and then they understand this is
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real, and then uh the disbelief changes into
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into shock.
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And um this is and it uh rightly
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so um if people have a a heart,
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let's say this, if they have a heart
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and soul, they should be appalled by this
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practice where a government is uh killing people
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on demand for their organs and to erase
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them.
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And that's the purpose of your organization too,
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is to shed light on this so that
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more people know about it, because until enough
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of us know about it, probably nothing is
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going to change.
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The voices have to get loud.
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You mentioned it.
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If you have a heart and soul and
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you know this is going on, you want
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it to stop, and that's the whole purpose
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of your organization, which is the doctors against
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forced organ harvesting.
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DAFO is the the acronym for that.
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Talk about your organization and your work daily
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and what you are trying to do there.
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Yes, um, it is uh our the the
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first step um in this in our endeavor
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and our work is really to uh compile
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information and to provide um information and objective
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findings to doctors and the public, because only
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if if we have uh if if people
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are widely uh informed, then we can talk
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about the next uh steps.
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So the information is a crucial aspect because
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once you hear about it, you are moved.
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Yeah, I've seen it so many times you're
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shocked and moved, and then you start working
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on it your on yourself and for yourself.
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And uh one one thing that was you
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know, when people ask well what how what
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they can do is if you have social
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media, uh just just share what you hear
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from us or from our website, share it
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or share it with all the people that
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you know.
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And um at one point when you reach
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a critical mass, you remember 1980, 84, sorry,
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1989, the student massacre, June 4th.
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Yeah, uh the CCP shot 3,000 students on
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the Tiananmen Square Massacre.
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Next day, many many countries withdrew business from
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China.
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So if we reach, if we can replicate
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that, if if we can really make it
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uh uh a mainstream topic, forced organ harvesting
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in China, then I believe a similar reaction
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will come where people where countries say, Well,
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this is go is going too far.
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We we uh re retreat from China, we
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don't do business with China.
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At that point, there will be change in
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China.
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There will be change in China.
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So this is one of our goals to
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uh basically make it go viral.
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The other uh thing we do is uh
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we work with different governments, parliaments, etc.
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So right now they are in in the
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US Congress in the Senate, there's a bill,
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Senate Bill 409, 4009.
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This is pending in the foreign relations committee.
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If you live in a state, well, you
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live in a state with two senators, call
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those two senators and ask them to co-sponsor
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this bill 40 oh nine.
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This this uh will send a signal to
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China and say, we are aware of what
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you of what you're doing, and we want
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you to stop.
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This just this public announcement, just this public
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signal can be enough for China to stop
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because they fear they fear that they that
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the world will get to know about the
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forced organ harvesting.
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That is our chance.
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Dr.
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Trey, who is sponsoring or co-sponsoring that bill
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in the Senate?
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That's uh Senate Bill 409 is the number.
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Call your senator, do it tomorrow, and tell
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them to support that bill, 40 oh nine
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in the Senate.
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Do you know who sponsored that bill who
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put their name on it to begin with?
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Yeah, we have actually introduced this bill uh
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two, three years ago, and at that time
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it was on the Senate side, it was
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Senator Rubio, who who's now the Secretary of
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State.
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So he is all in to support this.
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That's good.
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Then after after he left the Senate, it
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was Senator Ted Cruz who uh introduced this
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bill on the Senate side.
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But then we ran into problems where the
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the chair of the foreign relations committee said
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he wants to have it bipartisan.
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And I didn't understand why this is needed
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because this is not a partisan topic.
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This is uh the this is a non-partisan
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topic, even if it's just uh uh one
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party that would support it, it should pass
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as soon as possible.
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But um now we actually found uh uh
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by uh uh a democrat co-sponsor, and that
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is Senator Um Merkley from Oregon.
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So we have a bipartisan sponsorship for this
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bill.
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It's ready to go.
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We just need more co-sponsors, more senators who
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co-sponsor.
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So get on the phone, get on the
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phone and call your senator.
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Tell them about Senate Bill 4009.
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They may not even know about it, but
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tell them you want it passed.
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What about on the House side?
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Is there a bill there that matches this
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one?
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Yes, uh, and that uh on the House
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side, the the bill passed unanimously.
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That that was never a problem.
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It passed in 2024, and it also passed
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last year in the new version.
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So on the House side, the the bill
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is passing unanimously, and um it is just
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on the Senate side where there are obstacles,
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and I do not understand why.
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What are the obstacles?
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Well, what what are the obstacles?
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I mean, this is uh this is a
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country killing people for their organs.
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This shouldn't be uh, you know, difficult, it
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shouldn't be rocket science.
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It should be very simple to bring this
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bill for vote.
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Uh what are the obstacles?
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And this is a resolution, isn't it?
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Isn't it?
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It's just to denounce China and bring attention
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It's just to denounce China and bring attention
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to it.
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to it.
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No, it's not a resolution.
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No, it's not a resolution.
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In 2016, we had a resolution.
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In 2016, we had a resolution.
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Okay.
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This time we have a uh binding, it's
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This time we have a binding, it's a
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a binding bill.
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binding bill.
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It's a it's uh if it passes, it
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If it passes, it will become law.
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will become law.
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So this is this is something that has
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So this is this is something that has
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teeth and really would make a difference.
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teeth and really would make a difference.
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It's not just a statement, it's really a
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It's not just a statement, it's really a
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position, and it would um it would create
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position, and it would um it would create
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action.
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action.
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One one of the one part of
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One one of the one part of the
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bill is that it would require from the
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State Department to produce uh reports about forced
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organ harvesting every year.
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And why is this important?
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So far, most of the most of the
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investigations were done by private people, investigators.
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And we have tons and books, tons of
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information.
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Uh the shelves can be filled with books,
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but um we don't have it in the
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uh in an administrative format where the government
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would be forced to take action.
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So this bill would open this this door
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and um uh make it possible that the
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the State Department can create reports on forced
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organ harvesting with subsequent actions.
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So this is a very important step.
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I meant to ask you earlier.
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What type of medical doctor are you?
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I was trained in internal uh medicine.
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I'm not in the surgical field.
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Yeah, I was wondering that's why I asked
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the question.
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I was wondering if you were uh someone
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that did transplants in your career.
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Yeah.
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And your PhD, what uh what is your
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PhD?
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That was in the uh in the field
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of cardiology.
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Okay.
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And you have no idea why the Senate
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cannot debate this and pass it with unanimous
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consent, even just like the House did.
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You don't know what's holding it up.
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No, I don't.
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I I don't.
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And um it is it is basically the
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the foreign relations committee is the bottleneck here,
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and I do not know what the interests
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uh behind it are.
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Um it is uh it was not um
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it was not communicated to us the uh
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in a transparent way.
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It was just that uh it need to
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it need to have uh by uh uh
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uh it was introduced by Republican Senator, it
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needs to have um democratic core sponsor, and
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I wonder is that typical that a bill
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cannot pass if there is no uh co-sponsor
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from the other party.
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So I feel kind of yeah, it can
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it can pass, yes, absolutely.
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Yes.
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Yes, so I don't know what's going on.
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I really don't know.
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Well, I have a pretty big I have
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a pretty big voice on social media.
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I don't know if you know that, but
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I have a couple hundred thousand followers on
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X.
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And by the way, if you're listening to
30:52
this, I haven't thrown it out in a
30:54
while, but you can follow me at real
30:55
book or Scott.
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And uh I I'll start putting this out
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and bring people to uh wonderful uh and
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get the attention of some people and and
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possibly even some senators.
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Maybe we can do that too.
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I have uh I have uh some conversations
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with some members of the House every once
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in a while and have some connections uh
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to get to the Senate.
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But uh I would love to help you
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with this.
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I want to talk about the Silent Harvest,
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which is a documentary, and I guess people
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on Capitol Hill had a viewing of it
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just last week, May 15th.
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Talk about this documentary.
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Yeah, so just the title, Silent Harvest.
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If you think about it what we just
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talked about with the uh on the Senate
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side, silence is the biggest accomplice in human
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rights violations in atrocities.
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Silence silence makes atrocities uh come true is
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making them happening.
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So we have to break through the science.
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We uh like the what the subtitle says,
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we have to speak up, courage to speak
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up.
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In this regard, the senators also need to
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speak up.
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So the the silent harvest um is uh
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the the name of our documentary, which was
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about 10 years in the making.
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Ten years ago, I had the idea, the
32:17
vision to produce a documentary that would cover
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um the information that we compiled, but also
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communicate the information in the format of a
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film.
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And um we we started 10 years ago,
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but there were parts missing, and those parts
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came together in the recent years.
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So um after 10 years, we are really
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uh delighted, I have to say, and relief
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that we finally again put this film together
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and uh shared with the public.
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As we go to commercial break, I'm gonna
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play about a minute from your trailer on
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that documentary.
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When you played it for people in Washington,
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DC, what was their response?
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What was it like?
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It was very interesting.
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Um it was uh of course, like every
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premiere, you do not know how the people
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react.
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So what I noticed is the people who
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watched it, they were just sitting and were
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glued to the screen.
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They they didn't move, they didn't walk out,
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and uh when somebody walked out, he uh
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he did it fast, and he returned very
33:22
quickly within a minute, probably.
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Yeah, the restroom break.
33:26
So that is the people yeah, the p
33:29
the people really attentively watched this film, and
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it really moved them afterwards.
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When I looked at the faces, you could
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see that the people uh were changed.
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It changed the the documentary changed the perception
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of the people.
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They were like almost like awaken.
33:51
They understood that forced organ harvesting is really
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happening in China, and this is appalling, it's
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shocking.
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When we had the premiere a day later
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on Saturday, uh May 16th, uh we had
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a larger uh audience.
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It was the same reaction.
34:06
The the audience was glue was was glued
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to the uh to the screen and really
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followed it very attentively.
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And afterwards, I I've when I looked at
34:17
the faces, they were really changed.
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So uh we are very happy with this
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um with this effect from the film that
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it can wake up people and make them
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understand that forced organ harvesting in China is
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happening.
34:31
Did you keep up with COVID very closely
34:33
and know everything that was going on, say
34:34
with Dr.
34:36
Fauci, who did a lot of tests on
34:38
beagles?
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And the reason why I bring that up,
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I did work with uh white waste uh
34:44
uh pro uh white coat waste project, and
34:47
they were really going after Fauci really hard
34:49
for the Beagles, and there seemed to be
34:51
a real groundswell and uh of of people
34:53
on social media that were going after Faugi,
34:56
and I recall even uh some members of
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the House of Representatives talking about it, and
35:00
Representatives talking about it, and it was part
35:00
it was part of hearings.
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of hearings.
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This was a beagle, a dog, and I
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This was a beagle, a dog, and I
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love beagles and I love dogs.
35:04
love beagles, and I love dogs.
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I've had many.
35:06
I've had many.
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I've had several beagles, in fact.
35:07
I've had several beagles, in fact.
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But we're talking about human beings.
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But we're talking about human beings, and you
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And you don't hear that ground swell of
35:11
don't hear that ground swell of distaste for
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distaste for harvesting a human being's organ like
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uh harvesting a human being's organ like you
35:17
you do for a beagle that had flies
35:17
do for a beagle that had flies on
35:19
on their face and ended up dying because
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their face and and ended up dying because
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Fauci put them through that.
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Fauci put them through that.
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It's it's weird, isn't it?
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It's it's weird, isn't it?
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It's almost like people don't want.
35:27
It's almost like people don't want to admit
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that this happens in 2026.
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Yeah, that's that's true.
35:35
And the comparison with the beagle is really
35:37
shocking as well.
35:39
How come that we have so much um
35:41
you know, heart for the beagles, but not
35:44
hard for those who are persecuted and killed
35:46
for the organs in them in uh industrial
35:49
scale.
35:52
So the the um it's probably out of
35:54
sight, out of mind, Dr.
35:58
Trey.
35:58
You don't see it, and therefore it doesn't
36:00
happen, and people don't want to deal with
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it.
36:04
If they see it and they're moved by
36:07
it, then maybe they start talking about it,
36:09
and that's your whole purpose, is what I
36:12
understand in your organization, and also in the
36:15
silent harvest documentary.
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Am I fair with that?
36:19
Am I on target?
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Yeah, yeah, that is fair.
36:23
So when we started, we uh 20 years
36:25
ago, we mostly were focused on the victims.
36:28
But then in the past years, the past
36:30
five, six, seven years, we actually notice that
36:33
it is not only the victims far away,
36:36
it is it is actually our society that
36:39
is being subjected to this abuse as well,
36:41
because we are training, we are training doctors
36:44
from China in the transplant field.
36:47
We have exchange hospitals, uh training doctors, universities
36:50
take students from China, and then you have
36:52
the patients here from the US who try
36:55
who learn from other doctors that they can
36:58
get a fast track transplant in China and
37:01
they go, but what they don't know is
37:04
that they become actually complicit in the murder
37:07
of those prisoners of consciousness.
37:10
As soon as you go to China for
37:12
a transplant, you initiate the killing of a
37:14
person.
37:16
And even if you get the organ, you
37:17
think about it.
37:19
If the person would know, you know, he
37:21
had a heart from somebody, and then he
37:24
realized that somebody else was killed for it.
37:26
You walk the for the rest of your
37:29
life, you walk with this thought that somebody
37:31
was killed so that you can live.
37:34
So, in a way, we have also to
37:36
we have to protect the patients and doctors
37:38
here in the US.
37:40
We have to uh we have to tell
37:42
them that you don't become complicit in a
37:44
murder for organ.
37:47
So we over time we realize this is
37:50
not an isolated isolated problem in China.
37:53
This is a problem that is uh going
37:56
basically affecting all countries around the world, including
37:58
the US.
38:00
I never thought of it the way that
38:02
you just put it, and I think that's
38:04
a great way to put it.
38:06
In order for someone to go in two
38:09
or three days to China and get that
38:12
organ, they have to understand that someone is
38:15
dying and they're doing it to them, and
38:18
the doctor is involved as well.
38:21
That was really an incredible thought there.
38:24
How do you live with yourself knowing that
38:26
you actually murdered someone so that you could
38:28
live?
38:30
Because that's what's happening.
38:33
It's really an amazing story.
38:35
As we come up here on our last
38:37
break, I want you to add anything else
38:39
that you want to the conversation that that
38:41
I didn't get to that you think that
38:42
I should have asked.
38:45
Please share that right now.
38:46
And when we go to the break, I'm
38:48
gonna play about a minute of the silent
38:50
harvest documentary.
38:52
And by the way, please tell everybody where
38:54
they can watch that documentary.
38:56
Yeah, this um this documentary, we decided that
38:58
we don't add a paywall to this film
39:00
uh because we wanted to our mission is
39:02
to inform people and we want to make
39:05
it as simple as possible for people to
39:07
watch it.
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This film is uh watchable, accessible on the
39:13
website Silentharvestmovie.com.
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Silentharvestmovie.com.
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And um we hope that this really educates
39:23
the people in the country and around the
39:26
world, and really helps to uh stop this
39:29
atrocity.
39:32
I earlier said silence is the the biggest
39:34
accomplice in in uh in the atrocities, and
39:37
in this case, this forced organ harvesting is
39:39
not a side topic in the in the
39:42
medical field.
39:45
It is the probably the the worst uh
39:48
abuse, the worst violation of medical ethics in
39:51
this uh in this century.
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Yeah, so it's uh it's it's a side
39:56
topic, but it's uh it is well it
39:57
if you if you want to have a
39:59
comparison, think of what happened in the gas
40:01
chambers.
40:03
The gas chambers were used as a final
40:06
solution, and um people not only Jewish people,
40:09
other people too were killed in in a
40:11
large scale.
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And now we have a similar situation where
40:17
transplant medicine is basically the gas chamber to
40:20
eradicate unwanted people.
40:23
Dr.
40:24
Torsten Trey is his name.
40:26
Thank you for coming on the program.
40:28
I really do thank you for coming on.
40:30
I appreciate it.
40:31
Great work you are doing.
40:33
Keep at it, and I really did enjoy
40:34
it.
40:36
Thank you for coming on.
40:37
Thank you for having me.
40:38
The human spirit when all is in harmony
40:42
finds its natural state in peace and freedom.
40:46
A spinning top dancing.
40:50
Moments of love and joy resonate with ancient
40:53
truths, respect for the divine, for family, the
40:56
heart's call to do unto others as we
40:59
would have done to us.
41:04
This is the promise of humanity to ease
41:07
suffering, to honor the human condition, to live
41:10
with hope and meaning in every breath.
41:14
Yet shadows fall across the slight.
41:18
There are people in our world robbed of
41:20
their freedoms, their very lives stolen.
41:23
And this film shines a voice for the
41:26
voiceless, calling us to stand for justice and
41:30
to awaken and to act.
41:35
You wouldn't go a day without brushing your
41:37
teeth or washing your hands.
41:39
What about washing your nose?
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the truth be told.
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And from time to time, I like to
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shine the light on someone that had an
43:25
idea, just one person, because usually that's how
43:27
these things work.
43:29
One or two people get together, they have
43:32
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43:34
that can make a big difference in your
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community, your city, or maybe the country, even.
43:39
I'm going to bring into the conversation now.
43:41
Patriot Anne Anne, welcome to the conversation.
43:44
Thank you, Booker.
43:45
Thank you for having me.
43:46
And I want to have a conversation about
43:47
what you did.
43:49
You had an idea.
43:50
You and I think one other person had
43:53
a conversation, an idea, and from that became
43:55
PatriotParents.org.
43:58
Talk about the start of that, and then
44:00
we'll just take the conversation wherever it goes
44:01
from there.
44:03
All right.
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That sounds fair enough.
44:05
Um, I actually was uh born into a
44:08
um uh family that really enjoyed uh politics
44:11
and kept a really strong watch on them.
44:14
I'm sorry I had a mom.
44:16
I'm so sorry that that that was your
44:17
life.
44:21
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but go on,
44:22
go ahead.
44:23
At the time we were too as kids,
44:24
you know, you're you're rolling your eyes going,
44:26
oh my goodness.
44:27
I've got I've got one of those around
44:28
here right now.
44:29
So yeah, I I understand.
44:31
You can relate.
44:33
Um we I had a mom that nowadays
44:34
I think would be referred to as an
44:36
activist.
44:38
You know, we would drive past the Texaco
44:40
sign and she'd see a red star, and
44:42
right away she talked about communism, and we
44:44
you know, she pulled us out of the
44:46
public schools because she felt that they were
44:48
indoctrinating us, and this was years ago, like
44:50
decades ago, and put us into a school
44:52
where it is now worldwide with its homeschooling
44:54
and and nationwide with its curriculum, uh Christian
44:57
Liberty Academy.
44:59
And when she put us in, we were
45:01
in a church basement, and I saw a
45:02
huge change in what we were taught.
45:04
We were taught politics in that we talked
45:07
about loving our country, being conservative and loving
45:09
God first, and it just left a real
45:12
mark on me.
45:14
So, you know, you get busy, you get
45:16
married, you have children, you have businesses, you're
45:18
working, you're busy, and you kind of get
45:20
away from the the politics a little.
45:22
Uh, my first president I voted for was
45:24
President Reagan, and we all loved him and
45:26
saw what he did.
45:28
But you know, you're not always on top
45:29
of everything like you should be.
45:32
So in 2018, um, we decided, I decided
45:34
to start an account on Twitter.
45:38
I wanted to support President Trump and just
45:40
keep up on what was going on.
45:42
And I thought, you know, this will be
45:42
great.
45:43
We'll connect with other patriots.
45:45
And within a year, I had 120,000 followers.
45:48
I had a nice voice and was able
45:50
to have a lot of cool people following
45:52
me who I really liked, true patriots, and
45:54
I really enjoyed that voice.
45:56
But in 2019, Trump retweeted me.
46:00
He actually quote tweeted me and thanked me
46:02
because for a tweet that I did.
46:04
And boy, all heck broke loose.
46:06
And I thought, oh, this isn't good, you
46:08
know, it's not good to get that kind
46:09
of attention.
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Yeah, I didn't, I didn't ask for this,
46:12
did I?
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I know that's what you were thinking.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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It was most people thought it was great.
46:17
I was panicking because of course it brings
46:19
out all the trolls.
46:21
So in 2020, I just knew in 2020,
46:23
I knew that the election was not going
46:26
to go smoothly because as we all know,
46:29
he got in very much as a fluke,
46:31
a very good fluke, but a fluke in
46:34
2016.
46:37
And so in 2020, I just knew they
46:39
weren't going to let him have this easily.
46:41
And I knew our accounts would be in
46:42
peril.
46:44
I could see trolls coming out.
46:45
We blocked more people on the account uh
46:48
after he had retweeted us or quote tweeted
46:50
us than we ever did.
46:53
So with that thought, in the summer of
46:55
August it was of 2020, um, I started
46:57
thinking about I really wanted to do a
47:00
website.
47:02
And I had become really good friends.
47:04
You know, a lot of people do podcasts,
47:06
a lot of people are very busy putting
47:07
in their opinions, which is great, you know,
47:09
especially people that want to stand up for
47:10
truth.
47:12
And I thought, you know, I'm not sure
47:13
I want to get on a podcast or
47:14
anything quite like that.
47:16
I mean, we're retired, we're supposed to be
47:17
enjoying life, kicking back and with our toes
47:19
in the sand.
47:21
And uh instead, I thought, you know, a
47:22
website would be really great because I enjoy
47:23
writing.
47:25
And uh I had happened to become a
47:28
really good friend with a really neat guy
47:30
uh who is a um legal immigrant from
47:32
Israel.
47:35
And in my past, I've noticed that the
47:37
people who love our country, I don't want
47:39
to say they love it the most, but
47:40
they get the freedom the most.
47:42
It's the legal immigrants.
47:45
And so I asked, he's the tech guy,
47:47
and I said, What would you think of
47:48
this?
47:50
And he thought that'd be great.
47:52
Just to add in, and this is a
47:54
whole different context, so I won't go into
47:57
it in detail, but another thing that took
47:59
me to this point of wanting to do
48:02
to get involved in this was I wanted
48:04
to write a book about how I saw
48:06
our family who um homeschooled our children, you
48:09
know, back when we did it was not
48:11
at all mainstream, a Christian family.
48:14
Uh, we've been married forever, you know, we
48:15
had a couple of kids here, and we
48:17
thought this'll be great.
48:19
We'll do it this way.
48:20
And we saw our daughter get pulled into
48:23
something, an organization where she got really indoctrinated.
48:27
And it was told to us that this
48:30
organization was about empowering young women.
48:33
And what we saw was anything but they'd
48:35
really been going rough on some of these
48:37
young women for 10 years, and nobody stood
48:40
up and did a thing.
48:42
What year when was that, Ann?
48:44
Was that uh 2020?
48:47
No, that was going back 10 years before.
48:49
So, like I said, I'm not trying to
48:51
digress, but what in the back of my
48:53
mind, the whole idea I didn't get on
48:55
Twitter for that reason, but the whole idea
48:57
wanted to do a website besides having a
48:59
voice because I was worried about not having
49:00
About not having a voice anymore, you know,
49:01
a voice anymore, you know, on Twitter.
49:01
on Twitter.
49:03
But the main reason, the underlying factor was
49:03
But the main reason, the underlying factor was
49:06
I saw our family get run through the
49:06
I saw our family get run through the
49:09
mill for standing up to an organization.
49:09
mill for standing up to an organization.
49:12
Everybody would know this organization.
49:12
Everybody would know this organization.
49:14
It is world famous.
49:14
It is world famous, it's been around a
49:15
It's been around 100 years.
49:16
hundred years, and we saw what it did
49:17
And we saw what it did to our
49:17
to our family.
49:18
family.
49:19
So indoctrination is not just in the schools,
49:20
So indoctrination is not just in the schools,
49:22
it's in organizations as well.
49:22
it's in organizations as well.
49:24
So that together, that feeling, and I was
49:24
So that together, that feeling, and I was
49:26
working on a book at the time, and
49:26
working on a book at the time.
49:28
that feeling.
49:29
And that feeling of what happened to us,
49:31
together with knowing what Trump was going to
49:34
go through, because we just knew it would
49:36
not be handed back to him, even if
49:38
he won legally this election in 2020, really
49:41
spurred us on to start this website.
49:43
So I asked this friend of mine that
49:45
I'd become really good friends with, and he
49:47
said, sure, let's do that.
49:49
And Patriot Parents came about in that way.
49:52
And we really wanted to make sure that
49:55
we would inform and um inspire and ignite
49:58
people to want to get involved, to want
50:01
to be a voice for faith, family, and
50:04
freedom.
50:07
So this is how Patriot Parents came about.
50:10
That's how it started, and it has grown
50:11
and grown.
50:12
You have a newsletter that comes out monthly.
50:15
And I want you to tell people how
50:17
they can get that information.
50:19
And then talk a little bit about the
50:21
inspiration, what the, you know, what you're trying
50:23
to do with it.
50:25
You also have resources available so people can
50:28
go to parent uh patriotparents.org and uh find
50:30
out more information about all types of things
50:33
when it comes to your child, protecting your
50:35
child, educating your child and all of those
50:38
things.
50:41
Sure.
50:41
Well, uh, anyone who wants to subscribe to
50:43
our newsletter, we don't just put people in
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there, they have to subscribe.
50:47
It's free.
50:48
And you just go to our website, Patriot
50:50
Parents.org and hit subscribe.
50:52
We never share the emails or farm them
50:54
out or sell them or anything.
50:56
We're very protective of people.
50:58
Um, and it's neat because we get a
50:59
lot of feedback from people through our email
51:01
in that manner, and so we know what
51:03
people are interested in.
51:05
But what we did it was we started
51:06
realizing a lot of people felt overwhelmed, like
51:08
I said, raising families working.
51:10
They don't get in on the real news
51:11
of things.
51:13
So our goal was to put out the
51:15
news when we do our newsletter, it's kind
51:17
of our take on what's going on, just
51:19
food for thought sort of a thing.
51:21
Uh, we do an opening, which we call
51:23
the rant, which sets the tone for the
51:25
newsletter, and then we do blogs that will
51:27
go into specific topics, and sometimes they're even
51:30
more a little bit um, I don't want
51:32
to say psychology-based, but day-to-day living based rather
51:34
than just news, you know.
51:36
But we like to provide um, we have
51:39
topics, we have resources for people, we have,
51:41
you know, under resources, movies and documentaries and
51:44
a Patriot library and a place that you
51:46
can find things for kids, and we do
51:49
a um stay informed area where there's election
51:51
integrity and election fraud and COVID-19 things like
51:54
this.
51:56
And um, we have words from the wise,
51:58
which we have something from you on their
51:59
booker.
52:01
And uh we we do put Savior Republic.
52:03
So, what we like to do, we're not
52:06
trying to promote ourselves, we're trying to really
52:08
promote like-minded patriots who have the same world
52:10
view, not just in our country, but worldview
52:13
as we do, and we see what's going
52:15
on, and we want them to have some
52:17
recognition as well.
52:20
So we like to work with other people
52:21
who are trying to do what we are.
52:23
Uh, we have a call to action where
52:25
there's donations and prayers.
52:27
We just uh met up with Roger Stone,
52:29
had a fundraiser with him um recently, and
52:31
put them in our newsletter um and call
52:33
to action to help him out.
52:36
You know, this is for people who've gotten
52:37
in trouble sometimes or just trying to do
52:39
the right thing, uh, petitions and phone calls
52:41
if there's something going on in the government,
52:43
people should know about.
52:45
Uh, we promote heroes, people, everyday people we
52:47
see as heroes like a Mike Lindell and
52:50
Steve Friend, any whistleblowers that we feel have
52:52
stood up to be truth tellers.
52:55
We have a section with truth tellers where
52:57
we put people that we really respect and
53:00
like Tucker, Matt Gates, Peter Schweitzer, Rajit Gabriel,
53:02
people who are really out there saying the
53:04
truth and not afraid to do so because
53:07
we all need that.
53:09
And then recently, a couple of years back,
53:12
we decided to do a candidates page, and
53:14
we've vet everybody we put on there, and
53:16
we have not just for Trump and for
53:19
nationwide candidates, but also for people who are
53:21
local.
53:24
But we do go through all of them.
53:25
Uh, right now we're really heavily supporting Brandon
53:27
Gill, who's Dinesh Jesus' son-in-law, he's just a
53:29
wonderful young man.
53:31
He stands for everything.
53:33
He just won Tuesday night.
53:34
Yeah.
53:34
Yes, yes.
53:35
And we're just so happy he has, you
53:37
know, of course, he has Trump some uh
53:39
support and and we just we just want
53:41
to see other really good America First Patriots
53:43
get in.
53:45
And if there's any way we can help,
53:46
we do so.
53:48
And of course, we have a little merchandise
53:50
uh page, but that's mostly um, you know,
53:52
mugs, backpacks and things, t-shirts.
53:54
Uh, we put Trump's mugshot in one on
53:56
a t-shirt about retribution and decide that whatever
53:58
we make from that goes back to his
54:00
campaign.
54:02
Uh, but we we just like the idea
54:05
of keeping people in um under going back,
54:08
not back in time in a negative way,
54:11
but going back to the fundamental fundamentals of
54:14
this country was built on.
54:17
Um, and we've gotten so far away from
54:18
that.
54:20
And the best ways through our children and
54:21
our families.
54:23
Um, but we don't just say this is
54:25
for parents because there's many people down here
54:27
where we are that are fighting for children,
54:29
and some of them don't even have children
54:31
of their own, and they're very effective.
54:34
So, this is what our goal is to
54:36
get people together and make a difference and
54:38
be truth tellers and and let other people
54:40
know what's going on so they can wake
54:42
up and get on board with what we're
54:44
trying to do here, which is elect the
54:46
real next president of the United States, Donald
54:48
J.
54:50
Trump.
54:51
And you are listening to Patriot Ann.
54:53
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54:57
Go there and subscribe.
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55:02
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55:04
You mentioned homeschooling, and it really seems like
55:07
homeschooling is growing in the country.
55:10
And I I did see some stats on
55:12
that, but it's amazing how many people are
55:14
now homeschooling, but it sounds like you did
55:16
it a long time ago.
55:19
What are you hearing from the homeschooling community?
55:23
Well, it's it's changed quite a bit.
55:25
It's so mainstream now, and they have videos
55:29
and DVDs and they have online classrooms where
55:32
people can get on there and do um
55:36
actually uh with other people, with other kids.
55:40
And it's so changed when we did it,
55:42
it was so unpopular when we did it,
55:44
and now it's like I say, become um
55:46
very mainstream.
55:48
Uh Erica Donald's runs uh homeschool group, and
55:50
we put her on our um the information
55:53
of her homeschool groups on our um website
55:56
to support her and what she's doing, but
55:58
it's changed so much because when we did
56:00
But it's changed so much because when we
56:01
it, it was almost looked at as offensive
56:02
did it, it was almost looked at as
56:03
to other people.
56:04
offensive to other people.
56:06
Patriot Ann is who you're listening to, and
56:06
Patriot Ann is who you're listening to, and
56:09
I know she mentioned uh the being down
56:09
I know she mentioned uh the being down
56:11
here, and she's in Southern Florida.
56:11
here, and she's in southern Florida.
56:13
She goes down there to retire her and
56:13
She goes down there to retire, her and
56:15
her husband, and you're working more than ever.
56:15
her husband, and you're working more than ever.
56:18
Thank you so much for all the work
56:18
Thank you so much for all the work
56:19
that you do.
56:19
that you do.
56:20
She's heavily involved in politics, and that's what
56:20
She's heavily involved in politics, and that's what
56:22
it's all about, folks.
56:22
it's all about, folks.
56:24
You have to get involved to make the
56:24
You have to get involved to make the
56:25
difference.
56:25
difference.
56:26
And you're listening to someone that has done
56:26
And you're listening to someone that has done
56:27
that.
56:28
that, it is Patriot Parent.
56:28
It is patriotparents.org, is that website.
56:32
And thank you so much for joining the
56:33
conversation.
56:35
It was my pleasure.
56:36
Thank you so much, Booker.
56:37
There is only one truth.
56:39
You've been listening to The Truth Be Told
56:42
with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.