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Episode #3972 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive March 2006 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another Radio Archive Hour here on the world-famous
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Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show website and our Hall of Fame radio show.
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Speaker 1: And this is Stephen Bozell. And this is a bit
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Speaker 1: that we did with Stephen March of 2006. Now, Stephen
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Speaker 1: Bozell is like gold, man. We wanted to make this,
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Speaker 1: at one point, we wanted to make this our featured archive,
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Speaker 1: but we thought, you know, let's give some of the
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Speaker 1: other characters and guests a chance. But sometimes I think
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Speaker 1: I'm going to rotate a lot of these out of the,
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Speaker 1: if you will, the benchwarmer phase and put them into
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Speaker 1: the starting lineup.
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Speaker 2: That is our featured archive.
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Speaker 1: But here is Stephen from March of 2006 suing Herbal
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Speaker 1: Essence Shampoo because he says the commercials that show a
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Speaker 1: woman moaning pleasurably as she shampoos with a product send
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Speaker 1: a message that women don't need men, just a locked
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Speaker 1: door and an electric toothbrush. And just so you know,
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Speaker 1: this was a controversy back in March of 2006. I
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Speaker 1: think Procter & Gamble had to pull the commercial. People
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Speaker 1: were so upset with it.
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Speaker 2: Mr. Stephen Bozell.
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Speaker 3: Mr.
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Speaker 2: Bozell is a construction contractor.
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Speaker 1: He has contacted an attorney and is one of many Americans,
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Speaker 1: I suppose, that was very upset with the recent commercials
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Speaker 1: that were on the air for Clairol Herbal Essence Shampoo.
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Speaker 1: You may not know this commercial, but it essentially shows
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Speaker 1: a woman showering, washing her hair, and while she is
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Speaker 1: in the midst of washing her hair, she is, I
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Speaker 1: guess you would say, she's having a sexual moment.
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Speaker 2: Mr. Boesel joins us from... Riverside, California right now.
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Speaker 1: Mr. Boesel, I understand that you're still at work. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us, sir. And I also want to
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Speaker 1: say that, you know, a guy that's still working and
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Speaker 1: calling in on a talk show, you're like doing double
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Speaker 1: duty tonight, huh?
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Speaker 4: We're finishing up a couple of projects we have out here, Mr. Henry,
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Speaker 4: so it's not a problem at all.
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Speaker 2: The commercial that we're talking about, Herbal Essence.
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Speaker 4: I want to go on record as saying, first of all,
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Speaker 4: that this product is made by Procter & Gamble. And
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Speaker 4: those are essentially the people that we are targeting. All right.
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Speaker 1: Procter & Gamble is the manufacturer of this. You also
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Speaker 1: said in your press release that it's difficult pinning down
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Speaker 1: where Procter & Gamble is, huh?
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Speaker 4: It actually is, sir. We went on a number of websites,
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Speaker 4: and Procter & Gamble is pretty cagey about telling people
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Speaker 4: where their headquarters are. And I suppose that's because they've
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Speaker 4: had this kind of problem before. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: What was your problem with this commercial? I know that
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Speaker 2: you didn't like the kids.
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Speaker 4: Well, my children watched it, but I also think that
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Speaker 4: the commercial for Herbal Essence Shampoo that did show a
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Speaker 4: woman who was, I guess you could say, was, as
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Speaker 4: you say, fantasizing and sexually, was alone and sexually fantasizing.
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Speaker 4: The commercial is also offensive from the standpoint that it
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Speaker 4: throws basically into the face of men probably what we
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Speaker 4: already know. And it sort of sends the message out
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Speaker 4: to everybody that women can take care of themselves sexually,
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Speaker 4: that they don't need a man for it. It emasculates,
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Speaker 4: degenerates men as being meaningless individuals when it comes to
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Speaker 4: the sex life of women. We have been, as men,
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Speaker 4: we've been living with this reality for years. Women who...
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Speaker 4: You know, pretend they're interested in what we have to say,
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Speaker 4: women who are pretend interested in hearing about our day,
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Speaker 4: and all they want to do is get upstairs to
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Speaker 4: their bathtub and behave this way.
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Speaker 1: All right, but the legal action, so you're saying this
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Speaker 1: is a reality, that herbal essence shampoo is now bringing
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Speaker 1: out into the open?
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Speaker 4: It brings it into the open, but by bringing it
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Speaker 4: into the open, it also makes men, it makes me
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Speaker 4: look like a fool, makes every man look like a fool.
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Speaker 1: But the legal action you're taking not only includes the FCC,
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Speaker 1: it includes Herbal Essence, Procter & Gamble.
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Speaker 2: You're taking it on behalf of your children.
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I searched every website, as I mentioned,
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Speaker 4: to find out where they're located. It's pretty interesting. The
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Speaker 4: other part of this is that when the commercial came on,
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Speaker 4: just as these companies want, the commercial comes on when
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Speaker 4: there's a child in the room. Well, I don't think
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Speaker 4: there's anything lower than that, than to purposefully place advertising...
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Speaker 4: in a television program so that a child will see it.
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Speaker 4: I think it gets about as low, that's about as
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Speaker 4: low as it.
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Speaker 2: Well, you can't prove that, can you?
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Speaker 4: I will tell you that my children saw that commercial
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Speaker 4: and they made comments that hurt me personally.
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Speaker 2: What was said? You said that your son, Stephen, right?
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Speaker 4: My son, Stephen, made the comment, it looks like mommy
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Speaker 4: is having fun in the shower. It looks like mommy's
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Speaker 4: going to have fun in the shower. And that's the
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Speaker 4: kind of comment And he doesn't know because he's a
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Speaker 4: little boy. But it basically says that I'm less of
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Speaker 4: a man. And my own son is saying that I'm
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Speaker 4: half a man. And that my wife only needs to
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Speaker 4: go into the bathroom. And that's all she needs to
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Speaker 4: do is go into the bathroom and lock the door.
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Speaker 2: But you said he's a little boy. And a little
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Speaker 2: boy is not intentionally going to make the comment.
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Speaker 4: No, but see, Procter & Gamble's commercial intentionally fed into
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Speaker 4: my little boy's brain a comment saying, which basically says
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Speaker 4: that his father is one half of a man. He's
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Speaker 4: a little boy, but why he said that hurt me
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Speaker 4: very deeply, and my lawsuit will charge Procter & Gamble
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Speaker 4: of inducing my son to make me feel like half
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Speaker 4: a man.
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Speaker 1: So your son is saying, and I want to get
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Speaker 1: to the point of it, Procter & Gamble's Herbal Essence Shampoo,
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Speaker 1: this woman pleasuring herself, is a humiliating experience for men.
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Speaker 4: That is correct.
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Speaker 1: Because it shows a reality that exists in America today
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Speaker 1: on a large scale, and that is women taking care
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Speaker 1: of themselves, and they don't need men.
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Speaker 4: Well, some of the men, as I said, they already know.
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Speaker 4: Procter & Gamble has decided to engage in a massive
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Speaker 4: campaign of humiliation and emasculation of the American man by
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Speaker 4: saying men can't get it done, that women can do
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Speaker 4: it for themselves in a shower. And I don't see
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Speaker 4: any women standing up for men. and saying that this
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Speaker 4: is humiliating to men. I don't hear any women saying
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Speaker 4: it's wrong to say that a man's half a man,
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Speaker 4: and that's why I am making this move.
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Speaker 2: All right, Stephen Bozell joins us.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the herbal essence shampoo from Clairol. The
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Speaker 1: commercial on TV shows a woman showering, shampooing her hair,
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Speaker 1: and then I think there's a kind of a, behind
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Speaker 1: the shower curtain, you can hear her oohing and aahing
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Speaker 1: and moaning as if she's you know, having a sexual experience,
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Speaker 1: the commercial is supposed to be saying, Mr. Bozell, that,
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Speaker 1: you know, shampooing with Herbal Essence shampoo is really sexual.
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Speaker 4: Well, the commercial may think they're saying that, but what
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Speaker 4: they're basically saying is, you know, something that has been
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Speaker 4: in the culture for a long time. You know, women
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Speaker 4: are telling each other they don't need men.
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Speaker 1: All right, 1-800-449-8686 is the number here on the Phil
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Speaker 1: Hendry Show, 1-800-449-8686. 8-6-8-6, as we talk to Mr. Bozell
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Speaker 1: about this. I have a news story here. The complaints
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Speaker 1: are against this commercial.
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Speaker 2: Procter & Gamble has decided to pull the ad.
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Speaker 4: But the damage has been done by this commercial. If
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Speaker 4: you read the story, the Commissioner of Gender Equality... was
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Speaker 4: asked to furnish an opinion on the commercial, and they
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Speaker 4: openly condemned the ad. They stated that the commercial perpetuates
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Speaker 4: and negatively reinforces the notion of women as sexual objects
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Speaker 4: in a casual context, okay? So the whole reason why
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Speaker 4: they pulled that commercial off the air is completely insulting
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Speaker 4: to men, completely ignores the plight of men. Once again,
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Speaker 4: it's all about women. It's not about children, and it's
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Speaker 4: not about men.
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Speaker 2: All right, so.
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Speaker 1: You're saying that the reason why they pulled this ad
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Speaker 1: off the air was because it was degrading to women.
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Speaker 4: Because they say it was degrading to women. There's nothing
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Speaker 4: degrading to women in that commercial. That commercial is basically
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Speaker 4: saying women can take care of themselves in a shower
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Speaker 4: and make themselves feel all good and everything and pleasure themselves.
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Speaker 4: And the only thing you need a man for is
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Speaker 4: to go to the work and bring home your paycheck.
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Speaker 4: And when my own son says to me, Mommy's having
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Speaker 4: fun in the shower... Which is the same thing as saying, Daddy,
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Speaker 4: you're half a man. You're a legless man.
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Speaker 1: I think that you may be taking it out of
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Speaker 1: context a little bit. I don't think he's saying that.
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Speaker 4: Well, my own son should not be making comments about
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Speaker 4: whether I can sexually please his own mother. And that's
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Speaker 4: the part that makes me angry.
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Speaker 2: But he didn't say that. He said that.
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Speaker 4: He said, Mommy's doing it in the shower.
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Speaker 1: Well, he said Mommy is taking care of her the
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Speaker 1: way you told me.
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Speaker 4: He said, yeah, Mommy looks like Mommy's having fun in
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Speaker 4: the shower.
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Speaker 2: Right, okay.
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Speaker 1: In defending the ad, Procter & Gamble argued that the
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Speaker 1: campaign contains no graphic content, nudity, or violence, and that
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Speaker 1: the tone is upbeat and humorous, but.
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Speaker 2: It has nonetheless agreed to pull the ad from the airwaves.
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Speaker 4: Well, that is an argument that is so cynical and
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Speaker 4: so specious, I don't even know where to begin. It's humorous.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't contain anything graphic. Listen to a woman screaming
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Speaker 4: like a pig in heat. If you've seen the commercial, Mr.
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Speaker 2: Wool, is she screaming?
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Speaker 4: She is making loud, gurgle noises that you would hear
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Speaker 4: in any pornographic film. She sounds like a bitch in heat,
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Speaker 4: and excuse my language, but... Well, I.
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Speaker 5: Okay. And.
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Speaker 4: And this is on a commercial. So my son sees it,
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Speaker 4: and he naturally draws a conclusion. My father can't take
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Speaker 4: care of my mother's bedroom needs. Now, it's one thing
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Speaker 4: for your own son to say that to you. It's
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Speaker 4: another thing for him to go to school and blather
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Speaker 4: it all over the campus.
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Speaker 2: Has your son done that, sir?
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry?
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Speaker 2: To be.
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Speaker 1: Able to say that your son goes to school and
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Speaker 1: tells everybody at school that my father can't sexually satisfy
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Speaker 1: my mother is to have some kind of proof of that.
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Speaker 4: My proof, sir, is that my son is a little boy.
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Speaker 1: Well, then you're assuming that he's going to school and
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Speaker 1: he's saying that my father, to all of his classmates,
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Speaker 1: can't sexually satisfy my mother.
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Speaker 4: That is correct, yes, sir. And that's why we're filing
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Speaker 4: the lawsuit. Mostly the cruelty to my own children and
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Speaker 4: the fact that Procter & Gamble pulled the ad because
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Speaker 4: they thought it was offensive to women, when in point
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Speaker 4: of fact it hurts men and calls us sexually, you know,
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Speaker 4: like we might as well be impotent or eunuchs.
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Speaker 1: All right, 1-800-449-8686 is the number here on the Phil
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Speaker 1: Henry Show. The commercial for Procter & Gamble's herbal essence
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Speaker 1: showing a woman showering and having a sexually pleasuring experience
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Speaker 1: as she washes her hair with herbal essence shampoo has
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Speaker 1: been cited by Mr. Bozell and others as demeaning to
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Speaker 1: men because it points up an ever-increasing reality that women
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Speaker 1: are taking care of their own sexual needs and they
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Speaker 1: don't even need men. Additionally, his own son made a
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Speaker 1: comment that Mr. Bozell took it to mean, Daddy can't
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Speaker 1: please Mommy sexually anymore, so she's in the bathroom doing it.
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Speaker 1: Procter & Gamble pulled the ad saying that it was
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Speaker 1: offensive to women, which Mr. Bozell also takes exception to,
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Speaker 1: saying that there was no offense to women in the commercial.
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Speaker 1: It was mostly an offensive ad to men. The woman
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Speaker 1: in the commercial who's washing her hair with Procter &
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Speaker 1: Gamble Herbal Essence Shampoo apparently is making some kind of
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Speaker 1: orgasmic-sounding noises in the commercial. 1-800-449-8686, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1: I got a blog site called.
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Speaker 2: Hmm.
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Speaker 1: This is called Live Daily Community, and these are women
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Speaker 1: who are posting things on a message board. I'll read
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Speaker 1: some of this stuff at the end of the hour
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Speaker 1: to you about this herbal essence. The Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 1: Tell all of the kids at school that Daddy can't
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Speaker 1: sexually satisfy his mother.
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Speaker 4: Well, but that's not my son's fault, Mr. Henry, and
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Speaker 4: I want to make that very clear.
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Speaker 1: But, Noel, I mean, at some point you'd have to
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Speaker 1: punish your son for saying something like that.
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Speaker 2: Why isn't it his fault?
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Speaker 4: Because Procter & Gamble has put on the television at
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Speaker 4: a time when my son and my daughter could see it,
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Speaker 4: a commercial showing a woman shower her hair and getting
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Speaker 4: her cookies while she's scrubbing up her head. And my
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Speaker 4: son is going to naturally draw the conclusion that a
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Speaker 4: woman only has to shampoo with herbal essence to get
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Speaker 4: herself satisfied or whatever you want to put it. And
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Speaker 4: they don't need a man. And my boy will go
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Speaker 4: into his marriage with his first wife suffering from those
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Speaker 4: kinds of images. that, you know, his wife's going to
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Speaker 4: be disappeared for an hour or two at a time
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Speaker 4: because she's upstairs, you know, getting her cookies or whatever
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Speaker 4: you want to call it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's just say that she's up, she's sexually involved, okay?
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Speaker 1: We don't have to use these terms.
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Speaker 5: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: John, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: You're on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 6: Hello?
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, go ahead.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and all due respect to your guest, I have
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Speaker 6: a couple comments. First of all, I've got six children,
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Speaker 6: so I come with a little bit of experience. And
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Speaker 6: You know, most advertisements that are on TV are bent
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Speaker 6: on sexual connotation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but not to the point where they're showing a
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Speaker 4: woman having an orgasm, for God's sake. You know, here's
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Speaker 4: the thing.
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Speaker 6: Hang on a second. That's your take on it. I've
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Speaker 6: seen that commercial, and my take on it was she
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Speaker 6: got real excited and she can't wait to get into
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Speaker 6: bed to have a climatic experience with her husband. So
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Speaker 6: your take is different than mine. But I will tell
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Speaker 6: you this, the thing that disturbs me the most is
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Speaker 6: that You are spending time and energy, not only yours,
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Speaker 6: but the legal system... or frivolous lawsuits like that.
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Speaker 4: Well, now, hold on. Hang on, hang on.
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Speaker 6: Whatever you say.
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Speaker 4: That's your take. My take is, my son.
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Speaker 6: Your take is, I think you need to belly up
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Speaker 6: to the bar, and if you lose, then I think
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Speaker 6: you should pull up in your wallet and pay for
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Speaker 6: all the expenses you've incurred on your lawsuit.
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Speaker 4: Well, wait a minute.
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Speaker 6: If you truly are passionate about what you believe, you'll
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Speaker 6: belly up with the money to back up your.
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Speaker 4: All right, I'll tell you what. What is frivolous about
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Speaker 4: my lawsuit? Go ahead. Tell me. Frivolous? Yes, sir. I'm
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Speaker 4: talking about Procter & Gamble... Basically calling you and me eunuchs. No,
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Speaker 4: you know what?
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Speaker 6: That's your take. I would have never thought that angle
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Speaker 6: until I heard the ludicrous of this. I was coming
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Speaker 6: across the state of Indiana when I heard this.
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Speaker 4: So you don't know that you're being made fun of.
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Speaker 4: You don't know that you're being made fun of. You
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Speaker 4: know what?
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Speaker 6: First of all, none of my children under 16 would
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Speaker 6: even understand that commercial, to tell you the truth. So
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Speaker 6: obviously you've had dialogue with your children at home.
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Speaker 4: I don't think you know what it is the kids
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Speaker 4: are exposed to these days, sir. Well, you know what?
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Speaker 4: I do.
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Speaker 6: I do understand what the kids are exposed to. What
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Speaker 6: is it frivolous about my law?
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Speaker 4: What's frivolous about my law? What's frivolous? Yes, sir. You
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Speaker 4: know what, Ben?
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Speaker 6: I think you should have a lawsuit against Firestone, because
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Speaker 6: when I last saw the commercial selling tires, they had
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Speaker 6: some sexual connotation in that new commercial that could also
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Speaker 6: make you feel like you're less than manly.
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Speaker 4: Well, which commercial? Tell me what it was.
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Speaker 6: It's a Firestone commercial.
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Speaker 4: What's the content of the commercial? All I'm going to
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Speaker 4: say is this. You don't have another commercial. I'm the
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Speaker 4: one who's got the commercial seat, and I've seen all
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Speaker 4: the commercials. This one is telling you, John, and me,
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Speaker 4: Steve Bozell, that women go upstairs and get their cookies
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Speaker 4: on a faucet.
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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, man.
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Speaker 4: Come on.
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Speaker 6: All due respect, you and I can agree to disagree,
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Speaker 6: but again, I come back to my final comment, sir,
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Speaker 6: and that's this. You have a right to look at
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Speaker 6: this commercial and come to your own conclusion of what
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Speaker 6: it did or didn't do to offend your.
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Speaker 4: Son and you and everybody else. You're taking the easy
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Speaker 4: way out.
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Speaker 6: But you need to be responsible. You need to be
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Speaker 6: responsible for the monetary side of this. If you bring
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Speaker 6: this up and you bring it into the system and
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Speaker 6: you lose.
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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll come to
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Speaker 4: my conclusion. I'll come to my conclusion as to what's
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Speaker 4: financially responsible and how about that. I'm just saying, you
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Speaker 4: know what? If you want your wife going upstairs and
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Speaker 4: getting her cookies on a vibrating toothbrush, that's your business.
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Speaker 2: All right. Look, I'm sorry. John, sorry that you're being
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Speaker 2: talked over.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't talking over that guy.
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Speaker 2: Your wife going.
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Speaker 1: Upstairs with a vibrating toothbrush now. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, John,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your call. Hey, thanks for
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Speaker 1: your time.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686. Laura, go ahead. You're on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hi, yes.
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Speaker 7: How are you?
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Speaker 4: Fine.
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Speaker 7: I'm listening to this, and the conclusion I come to
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Speaker 7: is that you are a very insecure man.
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Speaker 4: Oh, here we go.
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Speaker 7: If you think that this commercial is promoting men as eunuchs.
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Speaker 7: Because if you've ever seen any commercials on TV, for
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Speaker 7: a beer or anything else, the women are the objects.
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Speaker 7: And you don't see us.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. All
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Speaker 4: the time. Yes, we do. We hear you people complaining
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Speaker 4: about it. You women complain about those commercials all the time. Ma'am,
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Speaker 4: women complain about those commercials all the time. So don't
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Speaker 4: tell me you don't complain about them. All we ever
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Speaker 4: hear women say is, I was sexualized by this commercial.
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Speaker 4: I was this. I was that. You don't complain, huh? Well,
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Speaker 4: now it's our turn. So you're basically saying, I'm a eunuch.
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Speaker 7: I'm not saying that. The commercial isn't saying that. The
17:22
Speaker 7: commercial is saying, try this shampoo. That's all it's saying.
17:27
Speaker 4: It's going to make.
17:28
Speaker 7: You feel great because it's natural. It's not saying anything
17:30
Speaker 7: about a man. That's your own insecurity. To bring it
17:34
Speaker 7: into the legal system just seems absolutely absurd to me.
17:37
Speaker 4: Ma'am, you know as well as I do that millions
17:38
Speaker 4: of American women, rather than have sex with their husbands,
17:41
Speaker 4: will go up into the bathtub, light candles, and all
17:43
Speaker 4: this nonsense.
17:45
Speaker 7: So it would be better for you if a man
17:47
Speaker 7: and a woman were in the bathtub, shampooing each other's hair,
17:50
Speaker 7: making these noises. Would you like your son to see that?
17:54
Speaker 4: No, what I'd like is a man and a woman
17:57
Speaker 4: in a bed, not in some, excuse me for saying this,
17:59
Speaker 4: not in some homosexual... How is it.
18:02
Speaker 7: Homosexual in any way whatsoever? They are not promoting sex.
18:06
Speaker 7: They are not promoting homosexuality.
18:09
Speaker 4: Homosexuality means same sex.
18:11
Speaker 7: You are truly insecure.
18:12
Speaker 3: It is.
18:13
Speaker 7: And you're just showing it, and you want the world
18:15
Speaker 7: to see.
18:16
Speaker 4: Ma'am, it is an entree to lesbian sex.
18:17
Speaker 7: How old is your son?
18:19
Speaker 4: My son is 16. It is an entree to lesbian sex.
18:23
Speaker 7: Well, you know what? There are lesbians in the world.
18:25
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, man.
18:26
Speaker 2: Are you saying that.
18:26
Speaker 7: Women do have sex with women. Men do have sex
18:29
Speaker 7: with men. It's a fact of life. It's been around
18:31
Speaker 7: since the beginning of time.
18:33
Speaker 4: People are people. Well, maybe you'd like to go to
18:35
Speaker 4: grade school and just shout that out on a playground,
18:37
Speaker 4: but I don't want to do that myself. Thank you.
18:39
Speaker 4: What I'm trying to say is.
18:40
Speaker 7: Nobody's saying that, but nobody's saying that this commercial is
18:43
Speaker 7: promoting homosexuality either, except for you.
18:45
Speaker 4: It's promoting. I believe it's... It's just ridiculous. I believe
18:48
Speaker 4: it opens the door to a lesbian view.
18:51
Speaker 3: Why?
18:51
Speaker 2: Because the woman is.
18:52
Speaker 4: And possibly does.
18:53
Speaker 7: And you know what? It's part of the world we
18:55
Speaker 7: live in.
18:55
Speaker 4: Well, ma'am... Excuse me. When did I hire Proctor?
18:59
Speaker 7: People are not all the same. We are not cookie-cutter cut-outs.
19:01
Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question? When did I hire
19:02
Speaker 4: Proctor and Gamble to tell my son about sex? I
19:06
Speaker 4: didn't hire them. I didn't hire Procter & Gamble to
19:08
Speaker 4: tell my son about sex. And yet there is the woman.
19:11
Speaker 7: Why don't you bring a lawsuit up to Budweiser or
19:14
Speaker 7: any of those other ones that have half-naked women on
19:16
Speaker 7: the beach playing ball games?
19:17
Speaker 5: I thought you said it didn't bother you.
19:18
Speaker 4: I thought you said it didn't bother you.
19:19
Speaker 7: They're having lots of fun together.
19:21
Speaker 4: I thought you said it didn't bother you. They're playing
19:23
Speaker 4: with balls.
19:23
Speaker 3: I don't know.
19:24
Speaker 4: You said it didn't bother you, so why don't you
19:25
Speaker 4: sue them? I'm telling you right now.
19:28
Speaker 7: I can hardly hear you.
19:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what? God, I hate this. Ma'am, if
19:31
Speaker 4: you don't have the courage to say you're a lesbian,
19:34
Speaker 4: then don't do it. Okay? But I'm saying it right now.
19:39
Speaker 5: Why?
19:40
Speaker 2: Because she disagrees with us? She's a dyke?
19:42
Speaker 4: She sounds like.
19:43
Speaker 7: I'm not a dyke. I'm happily married. But I do
19:45
Speaker 7: know lots of gay couples, and they're just like you.
19:50
Speaker 7: They're people.
19:51
Speaker 4: You know what? You just called me a fag.
19:53
Speaker 7: You know what?
19:54
Speaker 4: You just called me a fag.
19:55
Speaker 7: These are your own insecurities coming out.
19:58
Speaker 4: You just called me a fag.
20:00
Speaker 2: She didn't call you a fag.
20:01
Speaker 4: She just called me a fag. You will see, I'm sure,
20:03
Speaker 4: in the future commercials that don't have any problem making
20:07
Speaker 4: fun of men. I think that we, to be honest
20:11
Speaker 4: with you, Mr. Andrew, I don't think we're long from
20:13
Speaker 4: a period where you're going to see men on a
20:15
Speaker 4: dog leash with these women promoting their products, and I
20:19
Speaker 4: fear the day, you know, they've become more bold with
20:22
Speaker 4: their advertising. You now have on television, in full view
20:28
Speaker 4: of children, these feminine products, the ones you know I'm
20:32
Speaker 4: talking about, the feminine hygiene and so forth, where you've
20:36
Speaker 4: got a woman with a feminine hygiene product and a man,
20:40
Speaker 4: you know, with a man on a leash.
20:44
Speaker 2: Are you saying that there's a commercial being contemplated like this?
20:46
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that this is the message. That there's
20:50
Speaker 4: a woman in work boots, in work boots with nothing
20:53
Speaker 4: else on, and she's holding a bottle of some kind
20:55
Speaker 4: of spray that God knows, Jesus. And there's a man,
21:01
Speaker 4: you know, in a gag.
21:05
Speaker 2: Have you seen a commercial like this?
21:07
Speaker 4: No, sir, but I'm saying that the intent.
21:10
Speaker 2: Is to humiliate men.
21:11
Speaker 4: Yes.
21:12
Speaker 1: Well, what do you mean a woman with work boots
21:13
Speaker 1: and a feminine hygiene spray and a guy in a gag?
21:16
Speaker 4: That is the image that women are now letting out
21:21
Speaker 4: into the world. That's the way it's been in our bedrooms.
21:22
Speaker 4: That's the way it's been in our home. Women rule
21:24
Speaker 4: the roost. Everyone knows that. But do you have to
21:26
Speaker 4: make me look like a complete eunuch and broadcast it
21:29
Speaker 4: for the whole world?
21:31
Speaker 1: All right, Stephen Bozell with us, who is suing, contemplating
21:34
Speaker 1: a lawsuit against Procter & Gamble for their Herbal Essence shampoo,
21:38
Speaker 1: which shows a woman shampooing her hair, and then it
21:40
Speaker 1: sounds like she's having an orgasm.
21:42
Speaker 2: He says that it humiliates men. Women only need themselves.
21:45
Speaker 2: They don't need men.
21:47
Speaker 1: It also sends a message, he says, to the young
21:49
Speaker 1: boys out there. He said that his son, he's afraid,
21:51
Speaker 1: is going to go to school and now spread it
21:53
Speaker 1: around to all of his friends that my daddy can't
21:56
Speaker 1: sexually satisfy my mommy. Has your son done anything like that?
22:00
Speaker 4: Not that I know of, sir, but you know what?
22:02
Speaker 4: There's a parent-teacher bulletin that's going to be coming out
22:05
Speaker 4: in two weeks because the bulletin comes out monthly, so
22:09
Speaker 4: I can get my first indication from that, but I.
22:11
Speaker 2: What do you mean, from a bulletin? A school bulletin?
22:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:13
Speaker 2: They're not going to have that in there, are they?
22:15
Speaker 4: No, sir, they won't have it in there. But I know,
22:17
Speaker 4: by the way, some of these parents write, you know,
22:20
Speaker 4: like they said, they're going to lord it over me.
22:21
Speaker 4: It'll be written as if they're trying to lord it
22:23
Speaker 4: over me. Yes, sir.
22:24
Speaker 2: All right, here is Sarah on the Phil Henry Show. Sarah, hello.
22:29
Speaker 3: Hi, how are you doing?
22:29
Speaker 2: Very good, ma'am.
22:30
Speaker 4: Good.
22:32
Speaker 3: Stephen, I wanted to say, first of all, that I
22:34
Speaker 3: think we're both adults and we can have this conversation
22:37
Speaker 3: without interruption.
22:38
Speaker 4: I'd sure love to do that, ma'am. I'd sure love
22:40
Speaker 4: to do that.
22:40
Speaker 3: I'd really appreciate it.
22:42
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
22:43
Speaker 3: First, I wanted to say that we do not even
22:45
Speaker 3: have a TV with cable or satellite in our home
22:49
Speaker 3: because of the garbage that is on TV.
22:51
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
22:52
Speaker 3: Including the commercials. I do believe that this is, I
22:59
Speaker 3: think that you're very upset and very angry about it,
23:01
Speaker 3: and it's understandable to a point, but I think the
23:05
Speaker 3: lady that called last is a little correct in that
23:10
Speaker 3: you are a little insecure and you have some issues
23:12
Speaker 3: that you need to.
23:13
Speaker 4: Deal with specifically.
23:14
Speaker 3: Hold on for a minute.
23:16
Speaker 2: Hey, Sarah, hold on. Am I hearing some interference?
23:18
Speaker 4: I'm hearing a phone ringing or something.
23:20
Speaker 2: I just heard a phone ring. Are you getting interference
23:22
Speaker 2: in your cell phone, Sarah?
23:23
Speaker 3: I hear it, but we can just ignore it.
23:25
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, go ahead.
23:27
Speaker 3: And you said your son was 16?
23:29
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
23:30
Speaker 3: He is at a very vulnerable age for any sexual
23:33
Speaker 3: information coming through the TV or in the home or at.
23:38
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
23:39
Speaker 2: Is that your cell phone?
23:40
Speaker 4: It is. I'm sorry.
23:41
Speaker 3: No, it's not mine.
23:42
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
23:43
Speaker 3: Okay. Or on TV or wherever. I need 10 yards
23:48
Speaker 3: of concrete.
23:50
Speaker 2: Mr.
23:50
Speaker 1: Bozell, you're on my radio show right now, and I
23:53
Speaker 1: have a lady who has called to talk to you.
23:55
Speaker 4: Forgive me. I'm sorry. I had a cell phone call.
23:58
Speaker 4: Forgive me.
23:58
Speaker 2: Are you with us?
24:01
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am. I'm right here for you.
24:04
Speaker 3: So 16 years old is an age that he's going
24:07
Speaker 3: to be questioning. It's a very vulnerable age for any
24:11
Speaker 3: sexual information.
24:12
Speaker 4: Right.
24:14
Speaker 3: The other aspect is that God intended men to be
24:17
Speaker 3: the head of the household, not the women.
24:19
Speaker 7: But I agree.
24:22
Speaker 2: You need to turn that off, sir.
24:23
Speaker 4: I'm doing that right now.
24:25
Speaker 3: I agree that in some aspects the world is saying
24:29
Speaker 3: that women are to rule, that there's, you know, the
24:31
Speaker 3: feminine movement and all that stuff, but that's not the
24:35
Speaker 3: way God intended it. And I am a firm believer that.
24:40
Speaker 4: I've got to take this. I'm so sorry, Mr. Andrew.
24:42
Speaker 4: I've just got to take this. Hello?
24:44
Speaker 2: Hold on for a minute, Sarah. Mr.
24:46
Speaker 4: Bozell? Please, yeah. Ten yards of concrete, and I need
24:48
Speaker 4: it over at Dr. Phil's ranch, right? Ten yards to go. Mr. Rainey,
24:52
Speaker 4: I got a pour, a cement pour in the morning.
24:54
Speaker 4: I'm very, very sorry.
24:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you're on my show, you know.
24:56
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I got to.
24:59
Speaker 3: That's okay.
24:59
Speaker 4: It's business.
25:00
Speaker 3: You know what?
25:00
Speaker 4: Go ahead, ma'am.
25:01
Speaker 7: Everybody has to work.
25:02
Speaker 4: Go ahead, ma'am. Yeah.
25:03
Speaker 3: I just... To the extent of suing, it might get
25:07
Speaker 3: somebody's attention for the rest of the commercials. Maybe they
25:11
Speaker 3: need to go to a flirting-type commercial instead of a
25:14
Speaker 3: sexual-type commercial.
25:16
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
25:17
Speaker 3: The other aspect is.
25:20
Speaker 3: You know, one of the things you can think about,
25:22
Speaker 3: I guess, is Viagra and why men have to have Viagra.
25:29
Speaker 3: And we are desensitizing men to skin. The whole theme
25:33
Speaker 3: of skin is in.
25:35
Speaker 4: I'm sorry?
25:36
Speaker 2: Okay, I can hear you talking to people.
25:39
Speaker 5: Mr.
25:39
Speaker 4: Ritter, I did not anticipate being on your program this long.
25:42
Speaker 2: Well, if you need to go, then go, okay? But
25:44
Speaker 2: I don't want you to be rude to my callers.
25:45
Speaker 4: I don't want to be rude. My wife.
25:48
Speaker 7: That's okay.
25:50
Speaker 4: I want to know if my wife was listening because
25:52
Speaker 4: it's exciting being on a radio show. I'm very sorry.
25:55
Speaker 4: Go ahead, ma'am. I'm sorry.
25:57
Speaker 3: I just pray. I'm praying for the situation totally, and
26:01
Speaker 3: I do know that we are going more into the
26:04
Speaker 3: sexual aspect of it. Everything.
26:08
Speaker 4: Well, ma'am, do you need your husband for sexual pleasure? Yes, sir,
26:12
Speaker 4: I do. Okay, then you do. All right, thank you,
26:13
Speaker 4: thank you. Do you mind if I get a deposition
26:15
Speaker 4: from you?
26:16
Speaker 1: Why do you need to depose her? There's got to
26:17
Speaker 1: be millions of women that could make that claim.
26:20
Speaker 4: I haven't met one. I haven't met one. All of
26:23
Speaker 4: them want to go up there with their scented candles
26:25
Speaker 4: and a vibrating toothbrush, and it's disgusting.
26:29
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Do you go to church?
26:32
Speaker 4: Do I go to church?
26:34
Speaker 2: Yes.
26:34
Speaker 4: I just finished pouring a parking lot. For our local
26:38
Speaker 4: Presbyterian church. Okay, I didn't ask that.
26:40
Speaker 3: I said, do you go to church?
26:41
Speaker 4: Do I go inside of it?
26:43
Speaker 3: The women that you're hanging out with or the women
26:45
Speaker 3: that you know may not be godly women and may
26:49
Speaker 3: not need their man. They're in the world, and maybe
26:52
Speaker 3: you need to surround yourself with people who are.
26:55
Speaker 4: Jesus. Oh, we just had a closet fall.
27:00
Speaker 5: Okay.
27:01
Speaker 4: Well, I got to go.
27:01
Speaker 7: I appreciate your call.
27:03
Speaker 4: Well, ma'am, I will tell you this much. that I
27:05
Speaker 4: believe that you are a decent woman for calling. I
27:08
Speaker 4: think you've got some very decent instincts. I think.
27:13
Speaker 2: Hello? Are you there, ma'am?
27:16
Speaker 3: I'm here.
27:19
Speaker 2: You're very kind to call. Thank you.
27:20
Speaker 7: Not a problem. God bless you.
27:22
Speaker 2: What happened?
27:22
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Mr. Henry. What happened was I had....
27:27
Speaker 2: Let's get out of here, bud.
27:28
Speaker 4: What?
27:29
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like explosions, okay? You're listening
27:31
Speaker 2: to the Phil Henry.
27:34
Speaker 5: How you doing?
27:35
Speaker 2: Fine, sir.
27:36
Speaker 5: Look, I just want to know what this man's insecurity is.
27:41
Speaker 5: Because I really don't see what's so offensive about it.
27:47
Speaker 4: Offensive about what?
27:48
Speaker 5: Offensive about the commercial.
27:51
Speaker 4: I don't understand. Have you seen the commercial? That's the
27:55
Speaker 4: first question I've got to ask you. Right off the bat.
27:57
Speaker 5: I've seen the commercial.
27:59
Speaker 4: Okay, what does it do?
28:01
Speaker 2: What do you mean, what does it do?
28:02
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no.
28:03
Speaker 5: It just says that she's getting excited over the shampoo.
28:07
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but see, the thing of it is that
28:09
Speaker 4: she's getting her cookies.
28:12
Speaker 5: Oh, my goodness.
28:13
Speaker 2: Come on, dude.
28:16
Speaker 4: Wait a second, man. Are you telling me she's not?
28:20
Speaker 5: Why do you say she's getting her cookies?
28:24
Speaker 4: Number one, how old is your kid? My son just
28:27
Speaker 4: turned 16.
28:28
Speaker 5: Just tired of 16.
28:29
Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
28:30
Speaker 5: He's been knowing about what she's doing for about the
28:33
Speaker 5: past three or four years.
28:35
Speaker 4: It doesn't make any difference to me. It's not supposed
28:37
Speaker 4: to be on a television set. And I didn't pay
28:42
Speaker 4: Procter & Gamble to teach my son all about women
28:44
Speaker 4: getting their cookies. And the other thing that you don't
28:46
Speaker 4: understand is that's making you and me look like we
28:48
Speaker 4: don't even have a pair.
28:50
Speaker 5: Well, look, I'm a 35-year-old truck driver from South Louisiana.
28:54
Speaker 4: And we're in the Bible Belt, and we.
28:56
Speaker 5: Don't get offended by that. She's not showing anything.
28:59
Speaker 4: I know, sir, but the commercial's saying that women don't
29:02
Speaker 4: need men. All they need is a bottle of shampoo
29:05
Speaker 4: and a locked door.
29:06
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, man.
29:07
Speaker 5: They've been doing that since the beginning of time. I
29:09
Speaker 5: don't know what you're thinking there.
29:10
Speaker 4: Okay, but now they're letting everybody know about it. And
29:13
Speaker 4: now my son goes to school and talks about how
29:15
Speaker 4: I don't have a parent. What's that?
29:17
Speaker 5: He's been knowing about it. That commercial ain't taught him nothing, man.
29:21
Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you what.
29:22
Speaker 4: You're telling me that my 16- You're telling me my
29:27
Speaker 4: 16-year-old son is all fully aware of the fact that
29:31
Speaker 4: my wife has got a leash around my neck?
29:33
Speaker 5: And you remind me of the little boy in the
29:35
Speaker 5: closet got caught with Dirty Magazine. That's what you remind
29:38
Speaker 5: me of. And it's really insecure about something.
29:41
Speaker 4: What are you talking about? You know what your problem is?
29:43
Speaker 5: The marshal does not show anything offensive. There's nothing offensive
29:47
Speaker 5: to it. And if your son's taking it like that,
29:50
Speaker 5: like the other caller I heard said, probably there's something
29:53
Speaker 5: going on at home that shouldn't be needing to be
29:55
Speaker 5: discussed between you and your son.
29:57
Speaker 4: Well, sir, I will tell you this much. And I
29:59
Speaker 4: say this with all due respect, but you come from
30:01
Speaker 4: the South, okay? So maybe you guys don't have it
30:03
Speaker 4: all clued in down there.
30:05
Speaker 2: Well, where are you from?
30:06
Speaker 4: I live in California.
30:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're from Tennessee, aren't you?
30:09
Speaker 7: No, I'm not from Tennessee.
30:11
Speaker 4: Wait a minute. This guy, where are you from?
30:14
Speaker 5: I don't know.
30:15
Speaker 4: Yeah.
30:16
Speaker 5: I'm from Louisiana, man.
30:17
Speaker 4: Well, how do you know about all these sophisticated things?
30:21
Speaker 5: How do I know about it?
30:22
Speaker 2: What do you mean, how does he know about sophisticated things?
30:24
Speaker 2: You ever heard of New Orleans?
30:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got from New Orleans. Where are you from, man?
30:29
Speaker 4: You ain't from New Orleans, are you? I'm from Alexandria.
30:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we go to New Orleans quite regularly.
30:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, but, dude, that's all. You might as well be
30:36
Speaker 4: in the middle of a freaking bayou.
30:39
Speaker 6: Oh, here we go with the phone again.
30:42
Speaker 5: Hold on for a minute.
30:46
Speaker 4: Yep. Billy, I need 10 yards of concrete.
30:48
Speaker 1: Will you get out of here with your concrete orders
30:50
Speaker 1: and talk to this guy?
30:51
Speaker 4: That's kind of rude, isn't it?
30:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
30:54
Speaker 4: I've got to get 10 yards of concrete out. They're
30:56
Speaker 4: building a new wax Hollywood wax museum out here in Riverside. Oh, my. Hey,
31:00
Speaker 4: let me tell you what. What do you think?
31:02
Speaker 5: I think that somebody's insecure about saying that. I won't
31:05
Speaker 5: keep thinking that because.
31:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, can I get what I want is a pepperoni with.
31:10
Speaker 2: All right, hang up on him, bud. Well, he's just
31:12
Speaker 2: ordering pizza. He's on my show.
31:15
Speaker 4: What's wrong, man?
31:15
Speaker 5: Are you scared? I want to get a pepperoni pizza.
31:19
Speaker 5: Can you not get to the point.
31:20
Speaker 4: Where you're scared? I'm ordering a pizza if it's okay
31:23
Speaker 4: with you, or are you all of a sudden Adolf Hitler?
31:25
Speaker 5: You're not ordering a pizza. Why are you avoiding the
31:27
Speaker 5: whole point, man?
31:28
Speaker 4: No, sir, I'm not avoiding the point. I told you
31:30
Speaker 4: that when a woman is upstairs with scented candles, and
31:33
Speaker 4: she's got her hair up, and she's burning incense... And see,
31:36
Speaker 4: you're laughing all about it. She's basically saying that you
31:39
Speaker 4: ought to be standing there with a dog collar, a
31:40
Speaker 4: ball gag, and no balls.
31:41
Speaker 5: If I heard my wife upstairs in the bathroom washing
31:45
Speaker 5: her hair with that shampoo and doing that, I might
31:48
Speaker 5: go climb in the shower with her, buddy. I wouldn't
31:50
Speaker 5: be insecure about it. I've been telling the kids, stay
31:53
Speaker 5: here and watch TV. I'm going upstairs.
31:55
Speaker 4: Oh, so you go upstairs. Now the both of you
31:57
Speaker 4: are in the shower? Is that what you're saying?
32:01
Speaker 5: Yeah.
32:01
Speaker 4: Brother, I feel sorry for you.
32:03
Speaker 5: What?
32:05
Speaker 4: Well, I feel sorry for you, sir.
32:07
Speaker 5: Why do you feel sorry for me? You know what
32:12
Speaker 5: the hell with you.
32:14
Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. How much for an all-day pass?
32:16
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much. That's Mr.
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