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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Ohio State's Offense Is Expanding Its RPO Game · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: on today's show. And I really love doing these shows
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  Speaker 1: with him because then when I'm watching stuff on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: I can sound real smart, like I'm a real ball knower.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things that we talked about on
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  Speaker 1: last week's show was well, you know, they're not really
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  Speaker 1: pulling the ball on the RPOs and if they ever
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  Speaker 1: do that, boy that's going to be there and they
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  Speaker 1: can just go boom boom boom right down the field.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a driver to on Saturday against Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: when I'm looking through a camera lens from behind the
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  Speaker 1: defense and the refspots right in my face and I
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  Speaker 1: can't see anything, and I'm like, well, me to assure
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  Speaker 1: you friends there pulling the RPO. These tags haven't been
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  Speaker 1: live recently, but they are alive and that's why they're
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  Speaker 1: able to just go boom boom, boom right down the
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  Speaker 1: field to Jeremiah Smith eight yards at a shot. Ross,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for being here and thanks for making us all
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  Speaker 1: a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit smarter, happy to be here. Yeah, it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was a pair for the outside. I guess this has
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  Speaker 2: been sort of a running theme. Right, we talked about
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  Speaker 2: against Washington, didn't RPOs didn't see him live in the
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  Speaker 2: first half or in the second half when things opened up.
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  Speaker 2: Illinois showed some examples where it was hard to imagine
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  Speaker 2: that they were live because to said that Julian Sand
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  Speaker 2: has not been shy to pull and throw him and
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  Speaker 2: when he gets the chance to, and he's really good
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  Speaker 2: at it. Right, like we talked, he's accurate, he's got
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  Speaker 2: a quick release. It fits well with what he does,
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  Speaker 2: so you can see from the jump that they are live.
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  Speaker 2: And because the reason, like I've been we've been harping
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  Speaker 2: on this right is because there's a common theme this year,
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  Speaker 2: which is they're getting a lot of Cover three on
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  Speaker 2: early downs. Teams are bringing their safety down the box
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  Speaker 2: to play the run, and they've got these soft cover
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  Speaker 2: three corners and so you know, cover three. It has
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  Speaker 2: a lot of versatility. There's a reason it's been around
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  Speaker 2: for a long time. But one thing it's not very
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  Speaker 2: good at is against these RPOs, right, and so without
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  Speaker 2: a running quarterback threat, this is the way you equate numbers.
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  Speaker 2: So first play the game, right, They're just gonna run.
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  Speaker 2: It's a split zone. The Titan is going to arc release,
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  Speaker 2: other one's going to block back the twelve personnel. So
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin's got their four to three on the field and
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  Speaker 2: you're running just a hitch to the to the wide
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  Speaker 2: field and a quick out to the boundary. And this
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  Speaker 2: is just an access read Like Julian Sanine's probably reading
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  Speaker 2: this pre snap. He sees the amount of grass there
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  Speaker 2: and so he knows he's gonna pull it, throw the hitch,
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  Speaker 2: you know, eight yard game, and so again, rather than
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  Speaker 2: trying to deal with these numbers in the box. If
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  Speaker 2: teams are going to give you those throws, you're just
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  Speaker 2: gonna take them. And obviously, as we talked about like
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  Speaker 2: fits saying, well, you're getting the ball out to your
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  Speaker 2: two best players, and Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tape and
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  Speaker 2: they leaned into these all game long. I think by
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  Speaker 2: my account, I think Ohio State had thirty five snaps
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  Speaker 2: in the first half. They threw in twenty seven of them.
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  Speaker 2: But I think at least nine of those throws were RPOs,
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  Speaker 2: give or take, and so it was much more like
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  Speaker 2: closer to fifty to fifty play calling split right, Like,
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  Speaker 2: this is literally a run play with like with a
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  Speaker 2: pass attached. It's just it's a read on San's part.
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  Speaker 2: So if the numbers aren't there, as we'll see later,
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  Speaker 2: like if the read's not there, you're going to give
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  Speaker 2: the play the run. So these are run plays. These
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  Speaker 2: yards are out counted as official passing sets, but they
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  Speaker 2: arise out of the run game and the threat of
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  Speaker 2: the run game of defenses handling them. But like as
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  Speaker 2: we'll see, Ohio State did different types of RPOs with
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  Speaker 2: but this is the first type. It's sort of just
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  Speaker 2: you're going to play soft corner cover, We're going to
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  Speaker 2: take the free yards well.
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  Speaker 1: And one thing that's been sort of interesting this year
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  Speaker 1: is Ohio State hasn't been able to run the ball
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  Speaker 1: well in the run game. But I wonder if the
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  Speaker 1: success and the availability of these RPOs and the success
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  Speaker 1: they've had when they've chosen to run them is maybe
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  Speaker 1: a part of why Ryan Day has really not felt
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  Speaker 1: or seemed concerned at any point about the lack of
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  Speaker 1: success in the run game. And I wonder if the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they're able to have this kind of success
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  Speaker 1: when they want to with pulling the ball and throwing
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  Speaker 1: it is part of that. Because this next one, as
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  Speaker 1: you said, this is another RPO, just a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a different look.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's some of it. And
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  Speaker 2: I think, obviously my thought would be that regardless of
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  Speaker 2: the actual stats, teams aren't concerned enough about your run
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  Speaker 2: game that they are taking steps to address it, right
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  Speaker 2: like as I said, bringing a safety down in the box.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously they may be doing that as well because they
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  Speaker 2: think that they can get away with it if you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to punish him for it. But you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: as I said, we saw Wisconsin a lot of cover three,
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  Speaker 2: cover three fire zones on early downs, trying to attack
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  Speaker 2: the issue run game early, and that's why, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State had so much success with the RPOs. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then, as I said, there are different
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  Speaker 2: types of RPOs, right, So like that first clip we
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  Speaker 2: showed was a free access throw, this next one is
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  Speaker 2: a outside zone run and it's paired with a curl flat.
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  Speaker 2: So at this time, instead of saying reading the grass,
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  Speaker 2: he's reading this backside nickel defender that I've circled. If
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  Speaker 2: the nickel sits on the you know, he can tell
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  Speaker 2: that he's got the numbers right, it's two on one
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  Speaker 2: because this corner is so soft in coverage. If the
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  Speaker 2: nickel sits, goes with the flat route, he'll throw the curl.
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  Speaker 2: If the nickel sits on the curl, he'll throw the
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  Speaker 2: flat route. And so he you know, reads that offensive
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  Speaker 2: lines blocking outside zone and hits Jeremi Smith again on
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  Speaker 2: the carl flat combo.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of the stuff we've been showing you
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  Speaker 1: in terms of these RPO looks has been real short stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just take your six yards or your eight
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  Speaker 1: yards or whatever it is. But they threw downfield and
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  Speaker 1: hit some stuff, you know, not a million miles downfield.
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  Speaker 1: That's not really an RPO look. But they the second
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  Speaker 1: touchdown to Carnel Tait, the one that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: in the corner of the end zone, that's the next
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  Speaker 1: one we're gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: Looking at exactly exactly. And so this is a third
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  Speaker 2: type of look that we saw, right, And you know
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  Speaker 2: you talked about the short stuff, so I showed two
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  Speaker 2: of those. You know, they also ran counter gt with
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  Speaker 2: a slide RPO to Max Claire. They ran that a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times. The second in which was the one
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  Speaker 2: when Julian sand kept would look like a zone radio
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  Speaker 2: is actually an RPO and the defender stayed with Claire
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  Speaker 2: and so he ran. But this is a way to
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  Speaker 2: attack more vertically, right, So again we're right, you're running
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  Speaker 2: the RPO here, so just have an inside zone. But
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  Speaker 2: you're giving saying this read right that he can if
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  Speaker 2: he thinks he's got single coverage on the outside, he
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  Speaker 2: can pull it and throw these fade routes. He actually
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  Speaker 2: has fade routes to both Tate and Smith. He goes
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  Speaker 2: to the shorter side where he's got single coverage. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: great throw and catch, but you know, if Wisconsin changes up,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Wisconsin's in up cover four here. If they'd
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  Speaker 2: given a different look, he may have just given right
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  Speaker 2: on this inside zone playing like you can see the
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  Speaker 2: offensive line, you know, the tell is especially when you
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  Speaker 2: get like the behind the camera look at it. You
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  Speaker 2: know they're blocking inside zone.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You can see the double team from Carson Hintsman and
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  Speaker 2: Luke Montgomery climbing to the second level. So the offensive
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  Speaker 2: line for them, it's all these are all run plays again,
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  Speaker 2: and this is you know, an extension of the run game.
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  Speaker 2: So again, if you're gonna if teams are going to
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  Speaker 2: play them with aggressive looks to play the run, then
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  Speaker 2: they can take advantage of it with the pass.
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  Speaker 1: And then of course the con first of that is
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  Speaker 1: if teams are playing the pass, they can run it.
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  Speaker 1: And they didn't run it particularly well. And bo Jackson
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  Speaker 1: really did not have a great game, but one of
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  Speaker 1: the you know, probably his biggest play of the day
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  Speaker 1: came on an RPO where they did give it and
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  Speaker 1: that's the next one we're going to be looking at here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So later in the game, eventually Wisconsin gets tired
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  Speaker 2: of getting RPO to death, as most of them do.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, one of the reasons, like at in
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  Speaker 2: a bigger picture perspective before like diving to the play
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  Speaker 2: that people sometimes are you know, luke warm on RPOs
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  Speaker 2: is that the defense can dictate what you do. So
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  Speaker 2: to my point about the like the first half snap breakdown, right,
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  Speaker 2: if you if you want to run the ball, if
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  Speaker 2: you're calling all the pos and you want to run
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  Speaker 2: the ball, the defense can force the gift in the
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  Speaker 2: throw and you can end up with a pretty lopside
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  Speaker 2: to run to pass ratio, right, So sometimes when you
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  Speaker 2: want to run it, you just call the run play.
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  Speaker 2: The flip side though, is it's like there's no other
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  Speaker 2: way for High State in these looks to get the
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  Speaker 2: box count they want that are gonna put their offense
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  Speaker 2: in a better position. And so from Ohio State's perspective,
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  Speaker 2: they should be happy to be able to throw at
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  Speaker 2: every play if that's what teams want them to do.
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  Speaker 2: Like that plays into their hands between Sayan and Smith
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  Speaker 2: and Tate and so finally, as I said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin and basically had enough and so you can see
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  Speaker 2: here they walk their corners up right. So now they're
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  Speaker 2: still playing Cover three, but they're bailing coverage, so they're
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to take away those free access throws. They
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  Speaker 2: also are it's Cover three week again, and so that
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  Speaker 2: safety is coming down to the side of the run play.
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  Speaker 2: But look how much slower he is coming downhill.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So we saw plays against Illinois where ohigh state and
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  Speaker 2: everything blocked up and they're that weak side safety and
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  Speaker 2: Cover three was making the tackle two or three yards
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  Speaker 2: past a line of scrimmage. If that here, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: sitting because now they don't want to get just thrown
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  Speaker 2: right into that area. So now you have the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to block up. You get the numbers now, right, so
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  Speaker 2: we're going twelve personnel. We got seven on seven here
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  Speaker 2: with the safety out of the box at least until
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  Speaker 2: you know, six yards downhill, so they get you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to go to the backside here. And again
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  Speaker 2: this is the exact same play that they ran on
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  Speaker 2: that first play where I showed the hitch right. So
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna have the hitch to the field, the quick
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  Speaker 2: out to the boundary, and then you're just running split zone.
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  Speaker 2: So you're going to get Bennett Christians. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: fan out. Will Cosmeric is gonna split block the defensive end.
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  Speaker 2: You know you're going to get a double between Carson
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  Speaker 2: Hinsman and Tyers Shabola. They're going to climb to the placeside.
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  Speaker 2: Linebacker Hinsman does a nice job being the second level.
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  Speaker 2: Nice base block by Luke Montgomery there. And so now
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  Speaker 2: you're getting numbers where you can run on right and
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  Speaker 2: so you know what we're two three yard runs are
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  Speaker 2: now turning into five, six, seven yard runs. So the
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  Speaker 2: RPOs should serve them well, like you get one or
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  Speaker 2: two things right. Teams are gonna have to do this,
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  Speaker 2: and if they want to play single ete coverage, they
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  Speaker 2: have to press up their corners. Obviously, if they're going
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  Speaker 2: to press up their corners, that opens up explicit pass
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  Speaker 2: play opportunities downfield right, like as opposed to bailing cover
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  Speaker 2: three corners. You can cap routes from Jeremiah Smith, like
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  Speaker 2: we saw a couple of those on Saturday where they
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  Speaker 2: try to get it downfield and you know, Julian San
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  Speaker 2: probably just need to get the ball up a little
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  Speaker 2: higher to him, but you know it gives the corner
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  Speaker 2: a chance if he's got a ten yard cushion on
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  Speaker 2: him to start put out with these with where he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't so a that's going to open up things downfield
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  Speaker 2: or be they're gonna have to play some type of
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  Speaker 2: split safety look where they squat their corners in the flats,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously you know split safety looks are easier give
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  Speaker 2: you better run game numbers, and so that helps the
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  Speaker 2: run game. So the benefit of the RPOs is not
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  Speaker 2: just the fact that if teams are gonna give it
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  Speaker 2: to you, you're taking the yards and you're getting the
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  Speaker 2: ball to your best player. It's going to open up
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  Speaker 2: things both in the either the passing game even more
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  Speaker 2: you're dropping concepts to throw the ball vertically down field,
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  Speaker 2: or you're gonna get numbers in the run game and
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna get much better lighter box counts.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it has not solved all of the issues in
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  Speaker 1: the run game. They still did struggle for extended periods
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  Speaker 1: against Wisconsin. In this next one, this is one where
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  Speaker 1: this is CJ. Donaldson's second run of the game. The
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  Speaker 1: first one he went for something like twelve or thirteen
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  Speaker 1: yards and the second one he went for like no yards.
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  Speaker 1: Is this an example? I mean, I feel like there's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of people who want to point to the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: There's plenty of people who want to point to the
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  Speaker 1: running backs. What's the issue here in your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean anytime you're gonna hit in the backfield,
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  Speaker 2: that's on the offensive line. I mean, yes, there are
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  Speaker 2: situations where like your running back's good enough to make
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  Speaker 2: make up for miss blocks, Oh High Saint's not in
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  Speaker 2: that situation. There are times where I thought things were
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  Speaker 2: blocked pretty well, and it's like, you know, one on
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  Speaker 2: one with the corner and when the corner makes the
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  Speaker 2: tackle in that situation, like that's on the back, Like
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  Speaker 2: make a guy miss, run a guy over in this situation.
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  Speaker 2: This is just the offensive line issues. I thought Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for his lopside of the game, it is
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  Speaker 2: they have a pretty decent run defense, and they had
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  Speaker 2: some good concepts up front, and like we'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: that both like and run and pass blocking in particular,
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  Speaker 2: Gohas they did a lot of slanting and stunting up front,
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  Speaker 2: and O High State had some problems picking up the
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  Speaker 2: slants or the stunts are trading off blocks, right, so
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  Speaker 2: you're you're blocking inside zone here, and so like as
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  Speaker 2: you draw it right, everyone's stepping to their left, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and so in theory you would get a double team.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say that, like, so I'm looking at the nose
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  Speaker 2: guard right between Carson Insman and Tiger Shabola to the backside.
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  Speaker 2: If he stays there and he plays at a gap,
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  Speaker 2: Shabola is going to step to his left, Hinson's gonna
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  Speaker 2: put his arm on him, and they're gonna climb to
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  Speaker 2: the middle linebacker. Instead, the defensive tackles both slant back
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  Speaker 2: away from the play, so that one technique he's slanding
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  Speaker 2: between Shabola and Daniels and the other side they're slanding
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  Speaker 2: between Montgomery and Hinsman right, And so you have to
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  Speaker 2: adjust on the fly. The problem is, like Shabola has
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  Speaker 2: a tendency, he's way too leaned over here right, he's reaching,
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  Speaker 2: so he has no balance, so it's difficult for him
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  Speaker 2: to adjust to movement on the fly. And similarly, like Daniels,
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  Speaker 2: there's too much he doesn't get. His step is not correct.
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  Speaker 2: He's too slow getting to that double team. He needs
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  Speaker 2: to get like right now, you know when you already
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  Speaker 2: that guy's coming off. Shibola, like Daniels, needs to be there.
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  Speaker 2: So let's say I can't say it's solely a problem
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  Speaker 2: of the right side of the offensive line. There are
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  Speaker 2: similar miscues on the left side, but certainly I think
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  Speaker 2: that that right side is causing them more problems. But
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  Speaker 2: the longer the short of it is that by slanting,
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  Speaker 2: they split that double team. The linebacker is able to
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  Speaker 2: come also downhill untouched because of the slant, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just third and two and it's a dead play and
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  Speaker 2: that's how you end up running in short yardage. And
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  Speaker 2: this is the time they had to play on the day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, again, the run game was kind of up and down,
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  Speaker 1: and it felt like it was up more often than
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  Speaker 1: not when Isaiah West was in the game. This next one,
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  Speaker 1: this is one where the right heavy offensive line does
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  Speaker 1: a much better job blocking. But also one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that it felt like you saw out of Isaiah
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  Speaker 1: West was he would generally get a little more than
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  Speaker 1: the play was blocked. For this one was blocked pretty well,
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  Speaker 1: but then he got a little more than that even
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  Speaker 1: on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I agree. So again I think I've showed this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a few times that I continue to think
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  Speaker 2: the boundary stretch, perhaps ironically from many out there is
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  Speaker 2: continues to be a high state's best run play this year,
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  Speaker 2: and this is another example of it. This has done
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  Speaker 2: really well. Like I just you know, critiqued Phil Daniels
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  Speaker 2: in terms of how he handled that block here. He
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  Speaker 2: does a really nice job of helping Josh Thetiaz set
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  Speaker 2: the double team on the three technique getting off to
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  Speaker 2: the backside linebacker, and that creates this opportunity for West
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: to put his foot in the ground and get a field.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I also agree with you this is to my point
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: about making corners or safeties miss like this is. You know,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I would say it's been too rare this year to
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: see a running back make an unblocked safety like that
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: miss on tackle. Uh, And so anytime you get those
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: additional yards like that's the running backs job. And he
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: does a good job here. I thought, Wes, there was
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: a there was you know, another stretch play where he
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: probably he tried to cut it up inside. He should
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: have pressed it to the outside more. But I do think,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: you know, they're obviously trying things in the backfield in
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: terms of the snap counts and who's receiving getting the ball.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a pretty good, you know, first
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: sustained opportunity for West as a runner. You know, he
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: had a few good runs. He had this one. He
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: had another one off of a counter seat see why
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: where they pulled the scent they ran encounter but pulled
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Carson Hinsman and kicked out and you know he got
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: down to about the three yard line on that one
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: as well. So good stuf are you know? Again, so
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: not all bad things in the run game. I think
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: when they get the offensive lines getting like a clear
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: picture like this, they're they're doing pretty well. It's just
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: handling some of the movement and post snap stuff. And again,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: to return to an earlier theme, I do think like
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: the more that they RPO and things like that, it
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: will clean up the picture. And you know, I would
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: also note before I forget that saw a lot less
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: thirteen person on this game for sure, other than maybe
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a goal line situation. There was the one play to
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: touchdown to wilcos America was fourteen or fourteen with the
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: eye formation. But you know, so I think it has
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: played more like forty one snaps right and even missing
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: a few, so they were eleven over half the time,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: and so you know, you saw certainly lightening up the
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: box and as I said, relying on the RPOs more
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to handle extra bodies as opposed to multiple tight ends.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And the running backs are not just contributing on the ground.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Bo Jackson had ten carries for twenty six years, which
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: is not real good at all. You're not going to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: be able to get very far going two point six
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: yards per Kerry. Whoever, he has turned into a pretty
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: solid weapon for them through the air that he had
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: five catches fifty seven yards, so half as many plays
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and more than twice as many yards through the air.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: This next one is one of those plays.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this again sort of have a thematic
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: show here from week to week. Another one of our
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: discussions of you know, Julian saying pushing the football down
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the veil versus taking what's there right, and so you
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: have this, you know, seam route to Jeremiah Smith here
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: against Cover three. You know, I think there's an argument
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that could be made that right when Smith gets to
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the linebacker level, you know, that ball should be out
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: from Sam and hit Smith down to that seam route.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I think there's possibly, you know, still some some opportunities
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that are out there, particularly on the seams against cover three.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: But like saying is doing, he does such a good
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: job navigating the pocket and like for a young quarterback
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: stepping up and feeling feeling the rush and like buying
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: himself time. You know, I would say Daniels had some
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: struggles and pass protection. I mean certainly not alone, but
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you know, he he's just his feet are a little
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: slow in his set and so you know, here he is,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: he's you know, having to run the guy up the field,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and you know, but he kept getting as a result
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of that, like he started oversetting and getting beat inside
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: at times because you know you're running, you're basically they're
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: running like a half slide protection. You can see from
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the back end zone where you know they're gonna they're
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: gonna step to the from Curson hintsman is gonna step
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: into the half slide with and then Phil Daniels has
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: got big on big on that end. So he's sort
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: of left on his own. And so that's how he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: kind of left. He has he has an choice but
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to run him up field where you have everyone else
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: half sliding and picking up the gap. But you know, again,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: like sand does such a good job, maybe he's not
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: taking the shots all the time, but like the efficiency,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Like it's hard to complain about these checkdowns like that
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: are going for ten fifteen yards and obviously Wisconsin and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: other teams they're making a point of emphasis to get
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: depth from their second level defenders to deal with Jeremiah
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Smith and Cornel Tate and that's just opening these up.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: So again, like maybe he could have taken the shot
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: there the same route to Smith. Hard to argue when
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: you're like checking it down and getting like ten fifteen
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: yards of playing on that and you're, you know, at
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: a minimum, keeping the team ahead of schedule.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw a chart just a few minutes
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: ago as we were recording this. Julian Sayin's completion percentage
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: above expected is the single highest in the college football
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Playoff era. Justin Fields is second. He's like eleven percent
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: higher completion percentage than you would have expected based on
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the plays. So it's not necessarily going to be explosive,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: but it's going to be efficient, and that's kind of
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: kept them on schedule in marching down the field. However,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: sometimes it is also explosive, and this last one is
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that long pet pass downfield, really nice downfield shot. The
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Carnel Tait in the end zone.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think overall I would say that,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: you know, when people are asking, well, why is it
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: being conservative? Why is he pushing it? You know, just
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: be patient, like let someone develop and grow in the position.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: That's certainly what Ryan Dan wants. And obviously he talked
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: about Day talked about postgame, wanted to put more on
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: saying shoulders and he obviously answered the bell and you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I mean here you can see him start to get
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: more comfortable to push things downfield. Right Like so Wisconsin,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: as I said, we ran a lot of Cover three
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: on early down some quarter quarter a half, a lot
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: of Tampa two on third down. Right, this is third
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: and long. You got the three ice safety look. Day
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: talked about post game because Ennis a gotten at the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: play before. You had Colonel t in the slot here
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and a position he hadn't run this play before. This
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: is a three vertical route, so you got three verts
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: versus cover two. The top or the number one read
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: is to that whole shot over the pole runner, which
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: is you know, the middle guy deeper between the cover
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: two safeties. Again, pass protection not ideal. You get Tiger
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Shabola sort of driven back and Austin Sierravel. Again, as
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: we talked about with Philip Dant Daniels, like Austin Sierarevel
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: also overseets and turns his shoulders. Then you'd like to
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: see them get keep a little bit more square heads
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: up to handle more stunts and things like that. But
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: just a great job. By saying moving in the pocket,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: great throw, great catch, I mean, as I said saying,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: is going from you know, someone who they wanted to
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: minimize his role as much as possible against Texas to
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like kind of the bellcal of the offense in the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: sense of like it's just like the little things like yes,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like he gets the ball out quickly. Yes he's accurate,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: he keeps them ahead of schedule. But like again the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: past protection was not great. And you know, I don't
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: think I don't want to overstate it, like when you're
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: throwing that much, like it's never going to be perfect.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: But like his ability just to like move in the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: pocket is really underrated. And like you see a lot
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of quarter young quarterbacks that want to keep drifting back
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: or sort of keep get their eyes off being downfield,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Like he just has subtle ability to move step up here.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: He does like side steps and obviously still delivers an
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: accurate ball, so you know, whether it's this one, the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: third inn, is even the incomplete ones right, Like the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: shots of Jeremi Smith, you see him like singing the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: single coverage and taking those shots. So I think you're
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: going to keep seeing this development and like you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: as I would say for this team, particularly like you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: some unevent offensive line play. I think there's the running backs.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Jackson and Wes are doing you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: probably improving the level of just as runners, but both freshmen,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: like on the flip side, you on, like two monsters
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: on the outside right and a quarterback playing at a
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: really high level. So if you can, you know, I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if they maybe have games where they
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: don't RPO to this extent or you know, rely on
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it quite as much, just because that's just been Day's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: history is and that it depends on what the defense
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is doing. But like certainly when it matters, like I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: would want the ball in sans hands and getting it
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: outside as much as possible.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. There's a look at
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Ohio State's offense against Wisconsin. Next time, rosses on we'll
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: be talking about the Ohio State defense against Wisconsin. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to spoil anything, but they give up zero
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: points in less than one hundred yards before garbage time,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to guess that's going to be a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: generally positive note in that show. And then next week,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of course, they'll have to game this weekend, so there's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: no Ross Fulton film breakdown for next week, so we're
• 25:04
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• 25:06
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• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a sort of broader season wide
• 25:10
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• 25:14
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• 25:35
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• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 25:37
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