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3 Guys Before The Game - Arizona Game Preview (Episode 606) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: And away we go. Welcome in, everybody. It is time
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  Speaker 1: for three guys before the game. It's the sixth day
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  Speaker 1: of January, which means tis the eve of the West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Arizona basketball contest. And that is the title of
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  Speaker 1: today's show. A lot of work put into this. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna call it Arizona Preview.
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  Speaker 2: What about Oklahoma State Review?
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  Speaker 1: Ah, we'll get into that as well. That's what we
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  Speaker 1: are going to do. Welcome in, Three guys before the game,
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  Speaker 1: All three assembled. We have battled through perhaps the most
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  Speaker 1: incredible amount of precipitation that we've seen this year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, come on, isn't it bad this year? This year?
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  Speaker 1: He'shi this year? Oh, this year, this year, this year.
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  Speaker 1: value beyond numbers. All right, Courts and Session, thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much for being with us here. I'm Tony. I'm
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  Speaker 1: currently an active employee. That's Brad over there, he's currently
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  Speaker 1: an active employee. And that gentleman of the far side, well,
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  Speaker 1: we brought him in what time supper? It's a how's
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  Speaker 1: it field, dude?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't know what do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Retired? Friday?
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  Speaker 2: Did Bowl games, Friday, did bull games Saturday, and he's
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  Speaker 2: in here on Monday. He has no idea how it feels.
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  Speaker 2: You might as well ask me need what it's like
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  Speaker 2: to be retired. He doesn't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think we'll hoppy. You're looking quite well and retire.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you. It's going very nicely. We meet. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna meet the guys at for coffee at McDonald's soon
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  Speaker 3: a little while, and now we'll start grousing about people
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  Speaker 3: in my yard.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, off you guns. So you've already you ran
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  Speaker 1: your snowblower today. It's had a busy day.
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  Speaker 3: Ran the snowblower, did a couple of things. You know, yeah, people,
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  Speaker 3: I mean people want to know.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, he's all good to go, and off, off
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  Speaker 1: we go, six oh six as far as episodes go.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of six, as West Virginia got over the
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  Speaker 1: sixty mark on Saturday, sixty nine to fifty. The final score.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia defeats Oklahoma State now WVU two and oher
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  Speaker 1: in Big Twelve Conference play, eleven and two overall, and
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  Speaker 1: they've got another one here at home coming up against
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  Speaker 1: Arizona on Tuesday evening. We'll get into that. We will
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  Speaker 1: break down the Oklahoma State game. Let's just pause for
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  Speaker 1: a moment. Shall we just pause for a moment. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just stop and say this. I'm going to say it again, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia sixty nine, Oklahoma State fifty. Okay. I want
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  Speaker 1: you to kind of like when you pour coffee through
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  Speaker 1: the grinds, it has to kind of find its way
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  Speaker 1: and it filter it. Now, just stop and think and
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  Speaker 1: put this into perspective. I don't know what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen in the next eighteen Big Twelve road games, the
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  Speaker 1: next eighteen Big Twelve games, but I do think you
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  Speaker 1: have to step back and go. You just won a
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  Speaker 1: league a game at home by nineteen. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: where Oklahoma State's going to finish in the conference. They
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  Speaker 1: could be toward the bottom. I don't know yet, but
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  Speaker 1: I do know this. Winning home games by nineteen points
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  Speaker 1: in this league is like extremely hard to do if
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  Speaker 1: you had two players back from last year, if you
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  Speaker 1: had three players back from last year. When you win
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  Speaker 1: by nineteen, it's a big deal. And they did it.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, at halftime, West Virginia was just already set.
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  Speaker 1: They were rolling, and they're up twenty seven points at
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  Speaker 1: halftime on their way to the victory.
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  Speaker 2: So say that again. Here's the thing, guys, you're two
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  Speaker 2: and zero in the Big Twelve. You haven't trailed for
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  Speaker 2: a single second in either of those two games, and
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  Speaker 2: you've led by eighteen on the road at Allen Field
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  Speaker 2: House in twenty seven in your own building.
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  Speaker 3: Through two.
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  Speaker 2: Coach didn't With one of your best players on the
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  Speaker 2: bench still in Tucker Devrees, the.
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  Speaker 1: Head coach didn't really appreciate that when you brought that
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  Speaker 1: up to him post game, Hey, coach, you have not
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  Speaker 1: trailed yet in a game in the Big Twelve yet
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  Speaker 1: to see he didn't seem as though he Wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: He fired back immediately yet, did he?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he would.
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  Speaker 2: He said that's going to change. I said, I'm aware
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  Speaker 2: it's going to change. For two games it has not.
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  Speaker 3: He's he's future focused, Yeah, a future focused.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Literally, can't start it any better than what you have, No,
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  Speaker 2: there would be no better start than what you just saw.
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  Speaker 1: These microphones are pretty need directional, which just means that
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  Speaker 1: if you go off, if you're really off, Mike, but
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  Speaker 1: you might hear in the background there's a gentleman that's
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  Speaker 1: shoveling snow. Seems as though he's using an ice pick
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  Speaker 1: and a scraper and uh slideeshammer. So if you hear it,
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  Speaker 1: you hear if that's what it is. Anyway, the sounds
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  Speaker 1: of winter, sounds of winter time. Now, brad Mine was
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  Speaker 1: a pretty obvious observation. You won by nineteen pretty obvious, Hoppy,
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  Speaker 1: What are your obvious observations coming out of the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Well, a couple of them that you guys have already
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  Speaker 3: touched on. One is coming off an emotional win where
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  Speaker 3: after you beat Kansas, everybody tells you how great you
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  Speaker 3: are and that was an amazing win and historic win
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  Speaker 3: and Brad, you avoid the letdown.
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  Speaker 2: Let noble spot money was coming in on Oklahoma State
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  Speaker 2: primarily because of that. It was a situational advantage for
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State.
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  Speaker 1: How'd that work out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you avoid the letdown. You won the game
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  Speaker 3: number one, number two, a conference game, so you're two
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  Speaker 3: and on the conference. Tony, those are as you said,
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  Speaker 3: those are extremely valuable win and every conference wins extremely valuable.
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  Speaker 3: The defense in the first half was oppressive. It was suffocating.
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised Olahoma State didn't bring in oxygen for the
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  Speaker 3: players because, I mean it was a suffocating defense. He
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  Speaker 3: held Olahoma State to nineteen points in the first half,
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  Speaker 3: a suffocating defense. We are watching, and I know this
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  Speaker 3: has been developing. We're watching the emergence of a star
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  Speaker 3: in Jonathan Powell. I mean he's just getting back. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he never lacked for confidence, and now you're the
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  Speaker 3: last three or four games, you're seeing the results of that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he's knocking down three pointers. He played thirty
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  Speaker 3: four minutes as a freshman. Brad, I mean he's now
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  Speaker 3: a guy. He's a dude now already established. Agree meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: because you probably say, wow, look at Jonathan Powell, the
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  Speaker 3: emergence of Jonathan Powell and Brad As you talk about,
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  Speaker 3: you cannot overlook Javon Small. His back to back double
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  Speaker 3: double in conference games, and he did it with rebounds,
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  Speaker 3: he did it with Yes, So nobody yet and I
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  Speaker 3: guess it'll happen. Nobody yet has been able to contain
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Small. Hasn't happened Jonathan jon Small. Javon Small twenty
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  Speaker 3: four points, eleven rebounds, So two and oh in the
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  Speaker 3: league play. First time you've been two and oh in
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  Speaker 3: the league play since twenty seventeen. Twenty eighteen. I got
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  Speaker 3: Arizona coming up, and your Arizona is favored by about
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  Speaker 3: six points. They probably remember what happened in the Bahamas.
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  Speaker 3: And you don't have a guy who scored twenty six
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  Speaker 3: the last time you played him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes it a challenge.
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  Speaker 2: Javon Small, the season ended right now, should be in
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  Speaker 2: Player of the Year consideration nashally and would almost certainly
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  Speaker 2: be a first team All American.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you're getting from Javon Small.
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  Speaker 2: He is unbelievable and he was again on Saturday. Hoppy,
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  Speaker 2: You're exactly right. So we have to make sure we
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  Speaker 2: continue as this goes you lead with Javon Small. He
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  Speaker 2: is changing the entire game against a team the other
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  Speaker 2: day that wants to speed you up and get you
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  Speaker 2: frenetic and out of your pace. He just again refused
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  Speaker 2: to let them control the game. I said, I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you what all control the pace. Don't care what you
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  Speaker 2: want to do. I will tell you how you're going
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  Speaker 2: to play and control the pace. This defense is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Oppressive is a good word, Hobby. They've moved to fifteenth
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  Speaker 2: in Kent Palm's defensive efficiency ratings. This team is fourth
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  Speaker 2: defensively nationally in effective field goal percentage, fourth guys fourth
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  Speaker 2: and again not only without one of your best players,
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  Speaker 2: also one of your best defenders in Tucker Devrees. We
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  Speaker 2: talked to first few games Harry Many Tucker played there,
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  Speaker 2: how much better he made the defense because his ability
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  Speaker 2: to get in passing lanes. You're without him and fourth
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  Speaker 2: nationally an opponent effective field goal percentage. Listen to these
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  Speaker 2: last few games since Arizona. The last Arizona game in Atlantis,
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  Speaker 2: you've held opponents to sixty forty five, sixty one, forty six,
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  Speaker 2: sixty one, and fifty points.
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  Speaker 1: Say that again.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty, forty five, sixty one, forty six six sixty one,
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  Speaker 2: and fifty points scored from your opponents. Well, we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about offense, and I'm going to go into a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of offense here, but your defense has been absolutely stifling
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  Speaker 2: and it was again on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Can I had a caveat to that. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: defense is stifling, but you're gonna play Arizona, who last
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  Speaker 3: time you played him, you beat him. But they got
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  Speaker 3: seventy six points in raveraging eighty six points in the game.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe the stiffest, one of the stiffest challenge is
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  Speaker 3: yet for the defense coming up tomorrow, Philby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into that. It will be Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 2: no question they're playing great. But you had Oklahoma State,
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  Speaker 2: who yet Tony is conference opponent, correct in one of
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  Speaker 2: the best leagues in America. They had six points with
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  Speaker 2: eight forty eight to go in that game in the
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  Speaker 2: first half. Six points with eight forty eight to go
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  Speaker 2: in the first half.
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  Speaker 1: That's the dirty little secret about this Mountaineer team so far.
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  Speaker 1: Again everything is so far, is that we were thinking
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  Speaker 1: that offensively that Darren is really really good and he
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  Speaker 1: is at running various sets and things like that, but
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  Speaker 1: no one was talking about Wait you see his defense. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: you see his defense. That is the unknown that's in
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  Speaker 1: the negotiation. They call it the black swan. It's the
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  Speaker 1: one thing that account can't account for. You don't expect,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know, you're not thinking about. But there's a
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  Speaker 1: black swan. The black swan is this defense. It's extremely good.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's the magic. And listen, we guys, we've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about Darren since since June at least when practice began.
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  Speaker 2: That I think he would self identify as a defensive
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  Speaker 2: coach if you had to pick one. That's where it starts.
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  Speaker 2: Defense and toughness. And he talks about this just the
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  Speaker 2: refusal to get lazy around a screen. You're going through
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  Speaker 2: and over the scring Just get over it. Just get
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  Speaker 2: over the screen. Hop don't don't worry about what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: Just get through the effort that these guys give defensively.
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  Speaker 2: So it starts with the mentality and the culture that
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  Speaker 2: Darren and his staff sets. But then I just continue
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  Speaker 2: to give a lot of credit to these guys. This
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  Speaker 2: is a brand new team. Right, Tucker had played for
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  Speaker 2: Darren and Joseph Yesafu a few years ago. Everybody else
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  Speaker 2: is coming into this new and they have bought in
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  Speaker 2: and play exactly the way he wants them to play.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty remarkable to and a lot of credit to
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  Speaker 2: it is absolutely remarkable, there's no question about that. At
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  Speaker 2: the same time that it's happening quickly. And once these
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  Speaker 2: guys see that when they do what they're supposed to do,
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  Speaker 2: they have success.
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  Speaker 3: What does that do, Brian?
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  Speaker 2: It leads to more of that. And there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of confidence in belief right now and what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll keep saying this because it's true. And it's
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  Speaker 2: going to start on Tuesday. These games are gonna get tougher.
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  Speaker 2: There are losses coming, there are challenges coming, but man,
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  Speaker 2: this start, you just can't talk enough and overstate how
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  Speaker 2: great this start has been. To go eleven and two,
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  Speaker 2: to rip off the wins. They've had, what are they
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  Speaker 2: now the seventh longest winning streak in the country active winning.
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  Speaker 1: Streak Right now they are eighth, eighth longest win streak.
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  Speaker 1: It's seven games, eighth longest win streak in the country.
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  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you're not only without one
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  Speaker 1: of your best players. It's one of the best players
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  Speaker 1: in this league and maybe nationally. In Tucker, you've played
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  Speaker 1: almost half the games without one of your best players,
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  Speaker 1: and you've just had guys step up, led by Javon
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  Speaker 1: and everybody else. But we'll get into some individual performances,
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  Speaker 2: Well, I thought this was one, guys, and we'll start
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  Speaker 2: how we usually do. Let's go back and look what
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: we said in the preview and see how much of
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  Speaker 2: that came true. I thought, hoped, so far in the
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  Speaker 2: young season, this was as right on the scouting report
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  Speaker 2: as you could possibly be what we thought needed to happen.
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  Speaker 2: If it did happen, you'd get a win. That's exactly
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  Speaker 2: how this game broke down. So let's start here. We
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  Speaker 2: said going in, if you slow Oklahoma States transition and
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  Speaker 2: you keep them off the free throw line, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to really struggle to score and you're probably in a
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  Speaker 2: win situation. Well that's exactly what happened. The transition defense
• 15:59
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  Speaker 2: went back and watched or you watched the game West
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Virginia when we say get back on defense, okay, what's
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: that mean? More often than not all game hoppy. West
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Virginia got back with multiple guys positioning itself across the
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: free throw line or above, just setting up that wall defensively.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State had some times where they got out and
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: got a one on one, and that's when you're in
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: trouble because that's when they're going right at you, going
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: into their body trying to get a foul. But West
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Virginia more often than not got multiple guys back and
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: set that wall up and it turned away. The transition
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: gave up just eight fast break points all game. West
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Virginia has not given up more than eight points on
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the season in transition this year. That's incredible, not given
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: up double figures in transition points all year. They're now
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: eleventh nationally in transition defense points per possession, just simply elite.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: That's going to get tested on Tuesday. We'll talk about that,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: but so far that has been dominant for West Virginia.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: So that held you slowed transition. Number one, that play
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State in a position it did not want to
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: be in trying to score in the half court, which
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: it does not do well. The second part of that,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: don't let them get to the free throw line and
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: not score in transition. You're going to be in trouble
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: if you're the Cowboys. Hop what happened in the first half? Yep,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: they go what were they in the first half? Three
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: of seven from the line?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Is that about three fall line?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma State in the first half.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: In the first half, the Cowboys at the free throw
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: line were well, they finished eleven of twenty. They were
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: eight and thirteen a second half, which made them three
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of seven.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Three of seven in the first half. So they got
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: three points at the free throw line and no transition points.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: You want to know why they were down twenty seven
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: at the half, hop or twenty eight whatever it was.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: That's why.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State was held to just three points on catch
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: and shoot jumpers. Three points. That's one three point basket
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: on a catch and shoot. Talk about locking up somebody
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: in the half court, couldn't get transitioned, weren't getting the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: line in the first half, couldn't get jump shots off.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: West Freda's defense was absolutely elite. On the other side,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: we said, defensively, watch out for Oklahoma State because they're
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: going to gamble defensively, They're going to fly at you
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: from different spots. They're going to extend that trap and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: really try and pressure in four steals. I thought their
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: defense at times was very good. That's exactly what they did.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But some of that gambling on defense creates some unsound
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and open players for West Virginia. That's a good formula
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: if you're West Virginia's offense. The way the Mountaineers move
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: the ball and then take advantage of open shots. If
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: they could just hold the ball, get it out of
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the trap, make the extra pass, there were going to
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: be some open shots. West Virginia had more unguarded catch
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and shoot jump shots than they had guarded shots. Again,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: those were working. We specifically talked in our preview episode
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: about two zones to pay attention to the corner threes
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and in particular the left corner and top of the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: three keys. Those were going to be two areas that
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: likely would have shots open for West Virginia. Hop, you
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: want to know how that went?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: How'd it go?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Javon three to five from top of the key threes.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: We thought Toby and JP would be the two most
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: likely guys to hit corner three, right, That's usually who's
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: positioned in those corners, and they're there for that reason.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: When it gets open, you want your shooters there. JP
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: two of three from that left corner. Hop Toby had
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: one of one as well. There was scouting report was
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: just right on. You figured if you you did those things,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that would turn into a win. I don't know that
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you could have predicted a nineteen point win, but you
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: did all of those things at an elite level. You
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: guarded in transition, You didn't foul in the first half
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: when the game was decided, You move the ball, got
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: away from their trap, and hit your open shots past
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the ball. Well got the corner three and the top
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of the three got top of the key three ball game.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: You know what stands out about that is that how
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: many times, whether we're talking about football or basketball games,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: over the many years of doing this program, you do
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: a scouting report and you say, Okay, these are the
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: things you need to do, these are things need to stop.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: This is how you can score. And then in hindsight
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: you go, well, they didn't do it. That's not what
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you did. You couldn't get that. And what you're seeing
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: is is, Brad, you're seeing a pattern. You're seeing a
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: pattern of getting a very percent I scouting report and
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: then executing what you need to do. That's what you're seeing.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: That's what they're doing.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And again that's the hallmark of a really well coached
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: team and then a leader. Again, I go back to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Javon Small. When your leader and the guy with the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: ball in his hands the bulk of the time is
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: playing at a national Player of the Year level. Combined
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: with what that staff is doing from a preparation standpoint,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that's why you're winning. I mean, you want obvious observation.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: That's it. Your best players playing as well as anybody
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: in the country, and you've got a great game plan.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: The attention to detail is what I notice when I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: go to shoot arounds and I go to shoot around
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: before every game. The attention to detail that they pay
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: during preparation trans is translating to the floor. So I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: mean their shoot arounds are high energy shoot arounds. Okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: it's not kind of like and I've seen a lot
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of teams through the years, and I'm not talking specifically
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: West Virginia, but I'm just saying like it becomes almost
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: like just like wrote like, all right, they're gonna pass
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the ball to the corner, You're gonna come out here,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and then they're gonna bring it, gonna come on back here,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: come through this screen, and it just kind of like
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it becomes this mind nummy numbing exercise. Like these dudes
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: like it's hot, it's game. It's like they're doing it
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: right then and there and it's and then it does translate.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this this group doesn't have to crank up intensity
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: on game day. It's there. The practices are more intense
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: than the games. But they're doing a great job of
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: they're so well prepared. So the guys doing the scouts
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: have been tremendous as well. West VIRGINI knows what's coming.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Then the ability to get it to the players and
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the players to be prepared for what's coming and then execute.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That's what's been so impressive. They're able to translate that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: onto the floor, so they're ready. They weren't in a
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: panic with that pressure yesterday or Saturday. In the trapping
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: they say, all right, so what we've been working.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: On, can you that's that is a lot of intensity.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Can you maintain that intensity into March?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: We'll see, Yeah, I mean it's gonna get hard because
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the relentless nature of this league. Again, you sit back
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and you take a deep breath. You got through Oklahoma State,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: which it was a tricky situation, but you can breathe
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: for what forty eight hours, and then here comes another
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: top twenty five team, a team that's in the top
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: twenty in both offense and defensive efficiency. So there's just
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: no there's no breather. Yeah, right, that's the challenge.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, So here we go. Let's do this. Put this
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: into perspective your last four games that you've just played,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: where you we'll go back to Bethune Cookman, Mercyhurst, Kansasnoke
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: State again. In Ken Palm rankings, you just those four games,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Bethune Cookman was two, four to eight Mercyhurst was three
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: point fifty three, Kansas was eight, Oklahoma State was nine. Okay,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: so three of your last four games have been by
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: against teams one oh nine or below. Three of your
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: next four games are teams seventeen or above. Arizona's seventeen,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Colorado's eighty seven, Houston three, Iowa State five. So it's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: going to get incredible difficult in this next four game stretch.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Then after that and it's never gonna get easy again
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: after that, your next four are fifty seven, eighty six,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: three again and Cincinnati's twenty eight. Yeah, right, this is unforgiving.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why we said a couple of weeks ago,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: coming out of the Atlantis Georgetown four game swing, that's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: what it looks like for twenty games. That's the swing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So that level of competition is what this is. But again, okay, fine,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: just keep taking your hacks because now the rest of
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the league is sitting around going, what do you mean
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: West Virginia's thirty six in kempom rings are you talking about?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: That was a game?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: This West Virginia is a team A lot of teams
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: in the offseason went win. We're going to get a win.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: We're going to get a win. I guarantee there in
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: anybody saying that, like, you've got losses coming, but now
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: every single team in this league is.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Going here's another one. We got to be ready for.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: We've got to be at a high level and.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Be ready to go.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Just couldn't be more impressed what this group is doing.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Here's the other part of this guys is Westradian's defense
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: has kept them in the until the offense catches up.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: That was evident on Saturday against Oklahoma State. That was
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a rock fight there for a while, and that was fine.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Westerner was willing to make it a rock fight because
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: they felt they had the better defense. Then all of
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: a sudden, from the eight forty eight mark to the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: one thirty four mark before the first half, a thirty
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: five point offensive explosion. Antony, we talked about it on
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the air. West Virginia was getting those open shots before that,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: they just weren't dropping. So as a matter of just
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: keep doing what you're doing, these guys are going to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: get heated up, and they did. Javon Small had a
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: personal eight to nothing run in that stretch. They were outstanding.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Here's the other thing that's jumped out to me with
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the way this team is winning. It's been doing it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: with different styles. We talked about this after the Kansas game.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: In the non conference games, West Virginia won with threes,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: they had more than a fifty percent three point attempt rate,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and they did it with points off turnover advantage. The
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Kansas game, you did it totally differently. You slowed it
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: completely down. You took twenty percent less threes than you
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: normally do. I buried them on pick and roll, which
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you've done a little bit of, but not to that extent.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And you didn't have any points off turnovers to speak
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: of because you slowed it down so much and there
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of turnovers. The second against Oklahoma State,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you went back to threes. You were effected from there.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: You bury them in points off turnovers, which is how
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: they try and live. Then in the second half you
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: had that giant lead, so you switch styles yet again,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and you just said, you know what, you're fighting the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: clock as much as you're fighting us. We're just gonna
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: let the air out of this. We're just going to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: take time out and if the offensive possessions look ugly
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and we're not as efficient, that's okay too, because you're
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: not going to have enough time to get back in it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So the thinking through how you need to play best
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: to get a win against an opponent and within a game,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: and then doing it and being able to adjust to
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that also remarkable.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: They just went mid stream, just downshifted the gearshift and said,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: all right, now what and Oklahoma State couldn't have it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: They didn't have an answer to that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if you were trying to get like if
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: this were a gymnastics competition and you're trying to do
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a perfect routine, then you have to stay the same
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the whole way through. In this particular game. It's like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a football game. Let's limit the number of possessions. All
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: we want to do is win. We're not going to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: get graded by how pretty it was in the second half.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Was not pretty. Second half was a slog, but that
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that doesn't matter all you Your only goal is to
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: win by one. And it did explode out toward the end.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You got it closer and then you hit the that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: was it like two threes and then an Eduardo Andre
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Buckett in a foul shot at the very end. It
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: took the thing out to nineteen. But it probably should
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: have been right around there. Yeah, probably should have been there.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so you're just all you're doing is playing.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: One whatever you need to do to win. But here's
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the other part. Oh by the way, all that stuff
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: going on, and then what they say, what West Virginia
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: say on Saturday, you know what we're also going to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: do in addition to all this, We're going to hit
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the offensive glass on you. How do you like us now?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: On the offensive glass? When second chance points nineteen to
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: eleven tied a season high for second chance points and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: West Virginia got almost thirty percent of its points off
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: a second chances they had averaged or they average only
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: thirteen percent on the season, and that includes the last game,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: so it was even less than that going into the game.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: So that was another element that you don't necessarily see,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: necessarily see every game that Westernie stepp up and killed
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: him on the offensive class two hop. So winning in
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: different ways that bodes well as you as you move
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: forward as well.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Should we be uh? Should we should we start in
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a preemptive early campaign and get angry If Javon Small
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: isn't named the Big twelve Player of the Week, was
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: he earlier. Did it happen already?
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: That not out?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I thought that might have been out.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at my I'm looking at my emails. He
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: double doubled against Kansas and then against Oklahoma State. I mean,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I know it's hard to do it because there's sixteen
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: teams in the league. Is it out already? I didn't
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: see it anyway, just a thought.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: He got some player of the week award. I don't
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: know what that was from.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: He'll be up for some Bob Coosey candidacy as well,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Bob Coosey hoppy player of the week. It's always a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Can I can I add one thing before we do
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: a preview though?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, go ahead.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we've ever fixed the time zone
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: issue thing.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: But it's it's outgress.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: We'll work on that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Here's another thing that I think some clarification needs to
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: be given to. These net rankings are curious. What do
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you mean by that you watched the net rankings much?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I follow them, I mean on a somewhat casual bias.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this week? Did you follow it? When
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the the old Jayhawks went one and one on the week?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: You know they lost a game at home this week. Yeah,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: and then they won big UCF.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: By two hundred points.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, they went ahead and jumped from
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: twenty one to ten in the net rankings.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Twenty one to ten? There, that's a heck of a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: jump for a team that had a loss at home.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: But that's okay. I mean, I guess you jump. But
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: when you get wins like that, you should jump big.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So I assume West Virginia that went two and oh
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: on the week won two games, including one on the road.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I assumed West Virgian jumped about fourth in the net, right,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: because they should have jumped. You wanted a really different
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: so wes Virginia should have jumped a lot too. Kansas
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: went one and one on the week, loss at home,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: win from twenty one to ten? Big jump?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Where are we?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't look to the West Virginia went from twenty
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: six to twenty five. Jeez, a superber serious man, Someone's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: got to.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Explain where you win there and you win by nineteen
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: because obviously margin of victory is playing a huge role.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Over Yeah, because what I am told is margin of
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: victory isn't necessarily one of the metrics. But your margin
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: of victory plays in with offense and defensive efficiency, which
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: they're using. Now you know me, I'm all four using
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the numbers to help some of this. I don't want
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to just be in an eye test where you can
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: screw that up, poppy, So I get it. So you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: gonna have to live with some stuff in there. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: understand that. But man, that's that is really curious to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: me that you go one and one and you make
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: an eleven jump in the net. West Virginia wins two,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: including one on the road in that building, and you
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: went from twenty six to twenty five.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some questions.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Can might have more questions on that than I do.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: The time zones Kansas has lost to a very good
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: West Virginia team helped them.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly lose to good teams at home. Yeah, better
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: than beating teams in basketball some teams. The men went
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: out and jumped one one in the net ranking. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: you know what, anyway, there's my complaint for this podcast.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Here's the watch the net. But at the same time, things,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: as I said, are going to get super super hard.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But I had a thought fly through my mind yesterday
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: among many thoughts that fly through my mind. Some of
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: them are quite scary. Yeah, that was this. Think about this, dude,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: if I were to It's kind of the ESPN thirty
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: for thirty thing. What if I told you that West
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Virginia's basketball team that doesn't return a single player from
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a year ago would be in the top thirty in
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the net rankings in January. I know you'd say, like.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: The league and eleven wins and you beatn Zagar, no doubt.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: But also, as I will say that we've said on
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: this podcast many times, your expectations change, right you get
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: you get into it, and you see how it's working.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And now suddenly the net that I wouldn't I wouldn't.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I'm been concerned about the net in years, and I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to look at the net all year. Don't care,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: just once the other team does. Now suddenly you're winning. Okay,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Now I'm engaged in the net and I see that. Yeah,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: have some net questions. Don't know who to go to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: for that? Will work on that. Trun gets answers on
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the net.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe call Ken Palm. Can I'll help you with that.
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  Speaker 2: He's not totally involved in the net there.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I understand, but he probably would have. He's a mathematician, right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: he would probably have an opportunity to explain that to you,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure he's looking at that stuff too. Ken
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Palm has West Virginia, by the way, going eleven and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: nine in the Big twelve, that'd be good enough. Well,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: nine to get you in. I think nine wins would
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: get you in. Nine and eleven probably gets you into
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the NCAA.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Now again, Well, what one last thing on the net?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Then we'll move on.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Oh you are obset?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: What kind of I just some people should know the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: under your skin?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: West Virginia also has a better record than Kansas in
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: quad one games.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: They also have a better record in quad one quad
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: two games combined than Kansas does. And I don't I
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: don't mean to make this a West Virginia against Kansas argument,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: but that jump from KU with a loss at home
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: stunned me how much it moved. And yeah they had
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: they had a road wind sod West Virginia against a
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: better opponent.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: That turned into an extended road trip for the Jayhawks.
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• 32:10
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• 32:13
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• 32:18
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• 32:21
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• 32:23
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• 32:25
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  Speaker 1: let's jump in now, let's preview Arizona. This is kind
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: of a wild one. Right. The last time, if my
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: memory serves me correct, the last time West Virginia played
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: a league game against a team in the conference that
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it was the second meeting of the year, but it
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: didn't count. The first time would be Kase State Frank.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: When Frank was at k State, we played him. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: think it veas No No Wichita. I think it was
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in Wichita. It was a pre scheduled game between West
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Virginia and Kansas State, and then everything happened real quick
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and we joined the Big Twelve. So the first time
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: we played them, and it was an unbelievably great game overtime,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I'll check it. I think it was overtime, a great,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: great game back and forth. Anyway, the last time that happened.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So we play Arizona at Battle for Atlantis back in November.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: West Virginia gets them in just a classic overtime thriller,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and now here come them Wildcats. They want it since
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: they they wanted Cincinnati on Saturday afternoon close came down
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to the final shot or two, and now they're going
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to come in looking for revenge. Caleb Love, one of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the best players in the country, leading the per What's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: gonna Happen? Chapter two? As Hoppy said earlier, Tucker devrees
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: at twenty six against them on the island. What happens. Now,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: what are the numbers say.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: That's where you start. I think we need to be
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: careful here as Westernia. Things are going so well. Ah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: you beat Arizona once. Yeah, you're a good check. You're
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: without the not only the Tucker points, but the way
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: in which he got those guys. Remember he was just
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: launching bombs. They kept pushing him back beyond that three,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: and he just knocking him down. I told that story
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Hoppy at halftime there I was doing a little hit
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: on the broadcast and the guy running the shot chart
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: sheet from Atlantis came over and he's like all excited
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: trying to hand it to me to show Tucker's shot
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: chart in the first half. It was those were not
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: easy shots necessarily. So that's where you start with this
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Arizona team is you're gonna have to find a way
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: if you're West virgin need to make up for what
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: was an incredible individual performance by Tucker Devrees. The second part,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: this Arizona team's kind of found itself. It's playing as
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: well now as it has all year. Look at these numbers.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Eighteen off defense in terms of efficiency, twenty seventh in
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: defensive efficiency. That might be the little bit of a surprise.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: This isn't just a team that runs up and down
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: on you. They have been very good defensively as well.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Let's look at some numbers. I'm gonna go down in
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the weeds a little bit on a couple of these.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Arizona in the first meeting was just twenty nine percent
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: from the field off a two from two off a
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: missed West Virginia field goal. So when West Virginia missed
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: a shot, more often than not, Arizona missed a shot
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that was critical. In the last five games, Arizona is
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: seventy three percent from two point land off an opponent
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: miss So again, you talk about a team that has
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: found its stride. That's a massive difference. Now, West Virginia's
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: defense is really good, but so Cincinnatis, and Arizona was
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: running them in the first half there, So keep an
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: eye on that. Arizona is averaging twenty three of its
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: points via fast break in the last five games. They
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: he got just ten and a half percent of their
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: points against West Virginia in the first meeting. So hop
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: we talked about that West Virginia elite transition defense. It
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: was a lead against Arizona and that's where it starts.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: You've got to get back and shut that fast break
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: off again. Make them get into their half court sets.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: If five memory serves me correctly, Like the one of
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: their goals in that game was do not let Caleb
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Love get access to that ball, right, so they're going
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to jump him at three quarter quarter or taking that
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: inbound just to try to slow those guys.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Because he's really good.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: You go back to look at his numbers against West Virginia,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: He's only like four of twelve from three. He's a dude.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: You talk about being able to score easily. He can
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: get his shot whenever he wants, and Sear's going to
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: have his work cutout for him again. Matching Caleb Love,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: he is outstanding. Let's go to the defensive side for
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: just a second where they are really having success. That's Arizona.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: They are feasting off live ball turnovers over the last
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: five games, nineteen points per game off live ball turnovers.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: So two keys right away, stop transition, stop their offensive transition,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and you have got to protect the ball and you
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: can't turn it over. Nineteen points off those live ball turnovers.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: They had just six against West Virginia in the first meeting.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Going back to Saturday, what was the point total that
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State was producing off of opposing team's turnovers?
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: He asked me too fast, s okay, and.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I will tell you this that in the game on
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Saturday West Virginia and points off of turnovers.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Twenty to eleven.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Right, it was, no, it was they produced twelve twenty
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to twelve, twenty to twelve West Virginia advantage. So I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: sure twelve was significantly below what they have been doing.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Well, let's look at live ball turnovers first and foremost
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: over the last five games. Now, they were actually better
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: than they'd been off the last five games, but they
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: didn't get much. They got those all off LiveBall one
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: point persession off the twelve possession, so twelve what you
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: just said, points per possession?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I screwed you up because you had to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: go through screens, multi screen.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Get off a couple of screens there, But that's going
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: to be critical.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Don't turn it over and if you happen to, you've
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: got to get back and close that off so they
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: can't get runs to the basket there. The right wing
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: will be a spot you're going to look for. That's
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the most frequent spot for opponent threes. It matches up
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: decently with West Virginia thirty two percent on the season.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: You'd like that to be a little bit higher, but
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: it's the left wing where West Virginia blistered them in
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the Atlantis Tournament six of eleven from that spot left
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: wing threes. Tucker was five of six himself. Javon was
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: one of two West Virginia shoots nearly forty percent from
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: that left wing three, so try and get that open.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Short baselines are available against Arizona as well. That's not
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a spot that West Virginia normally attacks. It's attempted only
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: two percent of its field goals from there, so keep
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: an eye on there.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Tobyo'canni on the short baseline.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Well, remember he was great against them in the first game,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: had twenty. So we'll ask where those points are going
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: to come from. The obvious answers are Javon's going to
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: need to score a little bit more, but you're going
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: to have to Toby and Jonathan Powell get you some scoring.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Can I interrupt you for a second? Breaking news, Breaking
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: news first reported here on a pre recorded podcast. It'll
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: be really dated by the time you listen to it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: West Virginia is now ranked in the top twenty five. Okay,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: remarkable in the USA today Coaches Poll just came out.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Number twenty three is West Virginia. Think about that. Say
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that one again. What if I told you West Virginia
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: will be ranked in January of this year. You need
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to take after conference plays. But then, yeah, that's Coaches Poll,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: still waiting for the eight people to come. Remarkable, Go ahead,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: great job. They should be breaking news, hoppy, that's what
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: we do, break news.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Here's the other part. So stop transition number one.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Number two.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: You've got to keep them off the offensive glass. They're
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: number seven nationally and offensive rebounding percentage. That Tobya Walka,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: remember him, big dude inside he's still number one in
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the country an offensive rebounding rate. That's out of nearly
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: twenty three hundred players. The guy you're facing tomorrow night
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: is number one. He had four of Arizona's twelve in
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the Bahamas. Really good. But remember he had him early.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: He had like two in like the first three possessions.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: He had to leave the game because of Hansbury.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then West Virginia said, okay, you're done. You're done,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: we're cutting you off. Back to transition for a second.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: They only got seven points in transition against West Virginia
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: in the first meeting. Thirty six percent of their shots
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: are at the rim, so you're going to have to
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: get back and close that rim off a little bit.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: If you can watch the pick and roll, this is
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: going to be a heavy pick and roll game both ways.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: They actually went to that a bunch against West Virginia
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: in the first meeting. They made a bunch of shots,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: so we said, West Virginia's got to find missing points.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: That Tucker gave you, hop they were probably above their
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: average when it came to making guarded shots. They had
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: eighteen points off guarded catching shoots in the first meeting.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: That's their second most all season. So West Virginia was
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: in good position when they made shots. They just happened
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: to hit them. So maybe that that comes back to
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: earth a little bit for them, hoping they don't have
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: their second best output of the season. So those are
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: a couple of areas.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: To watch.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Pretty good preview It is stop.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Transition, keep him off the glass, protect the ball with turnovers,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and then someone's got to find some scoring.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Same again, stop transition.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Stop transition points number one and keep them off the
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: offensive glass that's one and two. And then offensively protect
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the ball, which again I could say that every game
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that's always a key for West Virginia. Protect the ball,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: don't give them those live ball runouts. That's what they've
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: been feasting on these last five games. And then you're
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: just gonna have to make some shots here. Tucker made shots.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Some of them were very difficult. Javon didn't have to
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: score as much in that game, part of why they
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: took him away, right.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Then there's two games to start the Atlantis tournament where
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: he was lights out. Arizona took that away. Tucker picked
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: up the slack. They're still going to come it at
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Javon in this one. Who helps him to get him loose?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Who? Who? What are teams going to do going forward?
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Andre already trying to shut down Small?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're going to attack Javon Small like they're gonna
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: be relentless on him. They're gonna take the head off
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the snake. They know he runs the whole thing. They're
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: going to heat him up every single game.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Now it'll be wild because two teams have tried and
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: two teams have failed doing it. He has controlled that.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the plan. It's not like Kansas didn't
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: know that. It's not like Oklahoma State didn't do that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State did a better job. They created some problems
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: there with those high hedging and pushing West Virginia out.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: West Rainie just handled it. Javon had some great passes
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: that short role that they did to We need to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: give Eduardo andre a shout out here. Think how much
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: he handled the ball Tony the other day. That's not
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: a guy that's normally going to be one of your
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: primary ball handlers. And I mean that hop not bringing
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the ball up the floor, but the ball is in
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: his hands a lot at the high screen for dribble handoffs,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that short roll when they press you on the hard
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: hedge out by half court, you take a shorter roll,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: not all the way to the basket. Then Eduardo has it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: A couple dribbles and there's either a little jump hook
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that's a aailable or what he did great the other day,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: kick to the corner. Now Powell's open in the corner
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: or somebody's open underneath Edwardo. You're asking to handle the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: ball a bunch. That was not the plan in June.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: He's handled that extremely well. So you just kind of
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: do what you've done. Other guys are going to have
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to go make plays when they get it out of
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Javon's hands.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Got another breaking piece of news here, Wow, good thing
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: we're alive. Yeah, just breaking news. Twenty one in the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: eight people better, Yeah, twenty one in the eight peopole.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Now we're getting closer to where it should be. You
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: do have Baylor falling out after it got taken to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the woodshed by Iowa State.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: At Iowa State, where's the Iowa State? Where's the cyclone?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: They're at three. So as far as your league goes,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you now only have one team in conference in the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: top ten. Houston.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Where's Houston?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Houston is twelve. You've got three in the top twelve.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: You've got four in the top twenty one, and that's it.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: How about Jared Calhoun? You toass state they're into the poll.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: They're at number twenty five. He's fourteen and one in
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: his maiden voyage. And as the Senator continues to pound,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you think he's won and done.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I think you very well could.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: That's Sandy Sprinkle ran out of there, right.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: The last three guys, the longest they've been there is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: two years. So those guys go and win. That's a
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: really good program that's been sustained success. Jared's gone in
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: and done a typical great job. Yeah, go back to this.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: So those are the rankings. Hop, Here's why I talk
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: about the numbers all the time. Yes, so look at
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the difference between the polls and then what the numbers
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: the analytics tell you. Houston three, Iowa State five, Kansas eight,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech fourteen, Arizona seventeen, Baylor twenty two paints a different.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Picture for them. Yes, for the big twelve, West.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Virginia thirty sixth with those numbers, So the numbers have
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: been slow to react to what West Virginia's resume tells you,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: which is part of why the net is behind. What
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: the see those poles guys are looking at it with
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: people are looking at it saying, well, hold on here,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: this West Virginia team correct.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, all right, So I think we got the plan.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: That's I got. There's the plane, just got to execute.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Go execute seven o'clock Tuesday night at the coliseum. And
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: then after that, West Virginia goes on an extended trip.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: They will go leave Saturday for the rare, rare Sunday.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think we have played a Sunday League game
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: since we joined the conference. I cannot remember a Sunday
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: League game.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Tom is that game on Sunday?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's like three in the afternoon, right in
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the middle of the NFL Central Mountains. I just, I
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: just I don't show it mountain. Were we in mountain
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: then we'll probably those are mountains, aren't they.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: It is a good question, though, what what time is it?
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: So West Virginia's website listed at three pm, so that
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: that would be all times eastern on that Yes, so
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: it's three pm Eastern. Where they listing it as the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: game time at the don't start. I'm just asking the question.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I truly don't know. Well, I have to look.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I did too.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: University of Colorado says the game time is one o'clock.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense for listing it as all
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Eastern time on there.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Right in the middle of the NFL playoff games right
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and squeezed in between it good. Probably not gonna do
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a big number. That's why you need to listen to Brad. Absolutely, Yeah,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: he'll paint you, guys, he'll paint the picture. It'll be
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: your first trip out there. Yeah, yeah, we'll have to
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: see how he behaves out on the road. Well, he
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: was already at Kansas. He was alread at Kansas. He
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: behaved him so Kansas.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I'm a frequent Colorado traveler too. I was out there
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: this summer. I already been there, saw walling out there.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Day.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: It'll be a return trip to Colorado for me. Hopey,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: of course, just go there regularly. Already been by Boulder,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: went right.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: At the accent, you went by. Now you're going to
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: be familiar territory.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, last time I was there, wasn't a good night.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: What was that football? Oh yeah, remember that I was there.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: I was there.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Missed a field goal.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but it's a it's a beautiful spot.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Well, not only missed a field goal, missed a wide
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: open pass back to the quarterback right through it. Latterly
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: coming back the other way was a sure touchdown and
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: complete pass.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Bad pass or just dropped it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Think it was pass.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Yeah, three guys before the game
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  Speaker 2: Just a football note real quick. You're seeing players start
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: to come in. You're seeing West Virginia side.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about that, your players.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: You're seeing staff changes. We talked about this on sports
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Line Friday. Guys, Noel Devine returning to the coaching staff.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Greatest player to return to a West Virginia coaching position
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: in the history of the program, best player to return
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: as a West Virginia coach?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: What about our friend Steve Dunlap.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: That that Steve got the most votes in our poll
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: was not scientific. It was just anecdotal, but Steve got
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: the most votes.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Doc, I mean Doc was a dunlap. Gosh, who else?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: This is way You cannot make a quick comment on this.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: You got to do some research.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Billy leg was one that came up. He was a
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: good player. Garrett Ford was one that that would be
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: way up that long.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: It have to be.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Garrett Ford was one that's in the.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Disc definitely in the discussion.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Now you go about different era, but Ira rat Rogers
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: is probably the ultimate answer.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: He would win.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was an all modern age. That's tough to beat.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Noel that is, that's a dude.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: You might want to go to modern era sleep.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Sleepy Glenn, Sleepy Glenn. Now I wasn't I wasn't around
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: for them, but I'm just saying that if you're talking about.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: A modern era, Noel would be right in the midst
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of the conversation.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: So a couple guys coming in, including Cyrus Trauw Parkersburg
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: South Youngstown State in we called a couple of his
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: basketball state title games. Talented talented athlete, great basketball player too.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also I saw au W, you know, continuing to
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: fill out the coaching stuff, we had Jack Bicknell junior
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: officially announced. Yeah, I forgot about that. So Jack Bicknell
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Junior played against Rich rod eighty four here when he
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: was a West Virginia game they played against. You think
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: he got to the second level, may have may have
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: butted up there against Rich we got to the second one.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Rich would have run up, stuck his face right in
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: that fan. You're taking him right on.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: You might have to go do a game a breakdown
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: of that tape to see if Bicknell and Rodriguez ever
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: collided during that game in eighty four.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I think mcnell junior was among those raising questions about
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: the Great Lost down.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Or they claimed that they poor Mike Karen the longtime
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: you know, basic general Dofo Doufho director questions they I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: think he was accused back in that air of watering
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: down the field to slow down Doug Flutie.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Mike, hey, listen. And if he did statue of limitations
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: forty years plus, it's over with.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: The other note.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think we talked about this since Jeheim White
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Rodney Gallagher have since announced their return to the Mountaineers
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also which is good. Yeah, And also on
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a sad note, for us Preston pac Man. Fox has
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: called it a career. He is retiring from the game.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: They didn't make it really public this year, but he
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: was nursing injuries all season long. He has a back
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: situation and it was just he was in pain all year.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Give him a ton, ton ton of credit. He did
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: a really nice job on returns throughout the course of
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the season, and really, I mean he was going in
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the last game. I think he was led the Big
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: twelve in kick return or punt return, one of those
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: categories there. He did a really good job. So great career.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: He made himself into a really productive college player.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Yes he did. Friend of the friend of the program.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: He went West Virginia went from every time there was
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: a punt you were on the receiving end to worrying
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: what would happen to that being a threat? Worrying.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: There was a time when Dana put nobody back and
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the crowd cheered because it was the right decision at
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: the time. That's where it was.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: So pac Man, I mean, pac Man, how many times
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: you could count, but I can think of imagine it
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: was a half a dozen times we made big plays
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: on kick returns, So maybe more and gave you a
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: good field position, which Brad.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we we salute, we salute pac Man.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Let's get him in here. Can we get him in here?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he's available summer guests. Yeah, it'd be fun.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, sorry to mean interruption.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: The only guy that ever football stuff happening right now, if.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I'm if I remember this correctly, the only guy who
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: ever slowed down pac Man Fox, and this was back
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: in youth league, would be Michael for Gaale.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: That was his coach. He didn't give him ball enough.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: He didn't give him the ball enough. It was it
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: was flag football, and I think Michael kind of held back,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: didn't realize what he had poor evaluation on Michael's playing. Now,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Michael will always say, hey, we won the championship, but
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I still think he held still think that he held
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: pac Man Fox.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Bad player evaluation.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, he'll deny it, but that's basically basically
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: what it is. All Right, let's do some healing, shall we?
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  Speaker 1: he asks this question that I'm probably a lot of
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Mountaineer fans are dealing with. Why can I Why can
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I not just enjoy the Kansas win? It's because all
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: of college basketball took note. My Mountaineer fan insecurity now
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: fears that money is no object. School will be coming
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: for coach Davrees after the season. Signed by Mark and Wheeliam.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Well, but Davrees has been it Mark it does not
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: have a history of jumping around.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: No, he does not. And uh, let's just take a
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: deep breath, Mark, enjoy the moment. What do they say?
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: What's a big line now that everyone uses kind of
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: where your feet are? What's that thing they always say, like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: just be where your feet are, Like that, be where
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: your feet are.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Don't you know what Mark's saying. I know what he's saying.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: What are you saying?
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Well, that's just that's welcome to the life of an
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: athletic director.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: That's you.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: You're either worried about do I have to make a
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: change because we're not winning enough? Or oh my gosh,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I got a hold onto my guy.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: That's that's what happens. I hope West Virginia loses a couple.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I want that keeping hang on, to keep winning.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know where Motsville is, hoppy Motesville, Barbara County.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I'm just reading.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Exactly Barbara County. He said that he attended Coach Drees's
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: radio show for the first time last week with his
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: two sons. He didn't know that they would have a
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: reserve to have to reserve a table. So they go
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: in there, they don't have a table. I mean it
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, showing up. So we
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: sat at the bar for a little bit and told
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the Kegler's GM they'd be Dougie Moore asked if they'd
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: like to sit with mister Bill White, he's the official
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: cookie maker of all of the Coaches shows. He makes
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: cookies for everyone at the establishment for every show, and
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: other various treats. Yeah, various treats. Makes various Yeah, he says,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I knew since I'm a P one listener, I knew
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: who the he was. We had a great time, fantastic atmosphere.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you Tony for the shot. It made their day.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: So here here's where two little guys are hoppy. They
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: brought these little guys in. They go to school at Cason.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: You ever heard of Cason, Yeah, c aso Win. And
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: there's Bill right there to the very left of the picture.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: That's the cookie maker. So I gave those kids like
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: old school like cheek squeezes, which I'd like to do.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I thought they had very squeezable face.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Did I'm sure they did not appreciate you, No, not
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: They were like, get the guy's hands off me.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I was just impressed. They were sitting at
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: the bar. Well, it was limited seating. Dougy Morre did
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: a great job wedging everybody in there.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well done over. I think Brad's kids were at
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the bar today were Yeah, that's a family show.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, fellas Cherry cokeson don't go right on the
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: cheery juice, Hey fellas Jeff and Parkersburg, also known as
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: the bread Man. I'd like to back Tony's claim that
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Bret in fact does make the sandwich. No bias here,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: and I'd also like to get your guys thoughts on
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: a recent shot at Mountaineer fans by Hudson Clement as
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: he and rich Rod switched places in the Hearts of
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Gold and Blue Faithful. Thanks guys, love the show.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Let me jump in on this one, please do? Would
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you frickin' people shut up and lay off of Hudson
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Clement because he didn't stay, man like, get over it.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: It's business. He had an opportunity to stay. He also
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: had an opportunity to look around. He looked around. He
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: found a wonderful deal. You'd do the same exact thing
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: if it were you, and don't say that you wouldn't.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: It's a deal. So I thank Hudson Clement for everything
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: that he did for Mountaineer football. Thank you very much.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: In this world. Go out and get the best deal
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that you can get, and it's gonna work quite well
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: for him. Conversely, West Virginia will also move ahead two
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: things can happen at the same time. West Virginia can
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: go on, Hudson can go on. But like people that
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: just jump on people just to jump on people, like
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: get a break agreed, echoed. All right, let me get
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: into this one. This text did not age well. Next one, gentlemen,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning before the Oklahoma State game, so the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: streak may be broken by the next episode. But has
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: anyone noticed the epic heater that Sincere Harris is oz
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: for twenty six from three point range this season, where
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: can you confirm not only this is a Mountaineer record,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: but it's also some type of national record for futility.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: He plays great defense, he's got a nice little floater
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: in the lane. But Bro, you got to quit jacking
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: up threes. Dude, I don't know. I did not age
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: well because Saturday he went out there looked like Steph Curry.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Was out there just launching.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: It's interesting though obviously they talk a lot about this.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Does Darren tell him to not jack threes? No, quite
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: the opposite. He wants him shooting. He sees it in practice.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: I've seen in practice kid can make shots. He's shooting
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: what near ninety percent from the free throw line, so
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: he can make the shots he wants him shooting, especially early. Hoppy,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: he doesn't mind one early because when they go in
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: as they did the other day, now the defense is
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: in a tough spot. Okay, now we got to come
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: out and guard. So no, he doesn't want him just
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: out there fireing thirty three is a game, but when
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: it's open, he absolutely wants him taking it.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Texter, Oklahoma stayed in town today, But I still can't
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: get over how composed our team was at Kansas, of
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: all places, to get the win, compared to how frenetic
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: and outplayed we were at Pitt in a tough environment.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: How do you think we turn that around? Coaching schematic changes, luck,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I'm still mystified by this, curious to hear your insight.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Why is it change Because you're not the same team
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: that you are from one day to the next day
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: to the next day to the next day. And at
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: that point they were not ready, They had not played
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: enough together. So everything changes your ability to recognize hostile environments,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: to deal with hostile environments. That's why you play those
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: games so that you hopefully get better every time you
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: go out there. Coaches now have a better idea what
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: players can or can not do, so as the year
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: goes on, you get better. So tremendous amounts of credit.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: But you're right, they just weren't ready to win that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: game at pitt. I'd love to play them again, but
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: they weren't ready. Then you only get to play them once.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: In this particular kise Hopy, are you allowed to improve?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: You are from week to week, game to game.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: So what that did too, Tony. To further your point there,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: which I agree with, it was, you know, you can
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: have an idea in theory of how teams are going
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: to defend at that time, Tucker and Javon, and you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: can work with your team in theory on how it's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: going to look. But that was a new team that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: hadn't played much together and pitch good by the way, right,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: so they were able to do some things that West
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Virginia hadn't seen live, and West Virginia didn't react well
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: to it. Well guess what it did? Okay, got it
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: figured it out, got it. Check see how you're doing it.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Here's how we counter that, and everybody, coaches and players adapted,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: fixed it and move forward and got better.
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  Speaker 1: Mountain Air football currently stands at seven hundred and eighty
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: nine victories. If Indiana and Arizona State can have the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: years that they've had this year, so can we next year.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go out heres. Let's get to eight hundred. All right,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: eight hundreds? Next up, Poppy, Can we get eleven next year?
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  Speaker 3: That's hard?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Historically that would be difficult, but let's accept the challenge. Hey,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: three guys, hopefully this won't be too long. After a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: lackluster second half against the cow Polks, let's hope they
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: don't do the same against Arizona. You have to make
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: your free throws, but we'll take the win. Have you
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: seen the commercials where they show students and the football
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: stands at West Virginia with their shirts off spelling West
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Virginia STU Virginia. Then they get it corrected with West.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of those commercials throughout the season,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: especially this weekend. You got to think that brings a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: lot of attention to WVU, even if it's in a
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: bad light. What do you think? By the way, I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: don't even know what the commercial was for. I'll try
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to remember next time. Also, I love the Senator and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Tony Collin games. Great work. Keep it going, hot Rod
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: in Woodbridge, Virginia. You know that.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say the second half against
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, you don't get up like by thirty points
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: and have some sort of efficient ex That's not how
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: it works.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Like you said, Brad, they changed how they were going
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: to play and just said you can't catch us if
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: we do these things. And neither team was very good
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: in the first four or five minutes, and West Virginia
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: went on a run at the end. So don't worry
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: about the second half.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because again Darren was willing to accept some offensive
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: inefficiency in order to burn clock. That Again, he's not
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: out there trying to win the whole thing by thirty.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: If you can, great, but you're also I'm just trying
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: to win the game. And the best way to win
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: that game was to say to Oklahoma State, you're struggling
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: to score on us, and in general, we're going to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: give you less time.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Best to lot what happens if you come down and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: launch immediately, and then you give them a chance to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: get back in the game.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: They were hoping for quick shots. That's why they cranked
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: up the defensive intensity and tried to make it more frenetic,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: and it didn't work. But that's exactly great game plan,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter that it got less efficient. Some
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: of that was intentional.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: As far as the commercial where West Virginia, No, I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: mean no, it's good pub. It's great pub, West Virginia,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: West Virginia, West Virginia. I don't think it's a hey,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: they can't spell type of the thing. I think it's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: like take the take, take the publicity.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: No, but you know what I will. I watched I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: saw it the other night. I made a comment to
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: my wife. I do like and maybe this is because
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I just I love the guy. I do like that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: it does say Stu in there. It does give me
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: a smile every time I see it, thinking of Coach Stewart.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Of all the things you could have misspelled it with,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: to misspell it as Stu as the next part of that.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: I do kind of like that.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: It's all state by the way, Oh it's are does it?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Free? Club? Hey three guys. Andy McPherson from Hurricane Wow,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: what a game Saturday. I got to spend the day
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: in Morgantown watching my men and the women's team get wins.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Special part about this trip. You ask my ten year
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: old daughter's first ever trip to the coliseum. Look on
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: her face for the women's game when we found out
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: that the GA seats included the students. Because the students
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: weren't back yet, we got to sit right down front
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: sheer of the old golden blue. Here is a picture
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: of our crew, first time ever. Three generations nice at
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the game. My dad Fred, my daughter Aubrey, my wife
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: and former WV track and field athlete Michelle, My nephew Quinn,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: who was calling the game on the air. I sorry
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: for the lengthy text, but today was a great day
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: to start twenty five. Can't wait for more memories. Ps.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Also great scene brat out at lunch, but in between games.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I should have sent him over my check for him
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: to pick up. Yeah, good luck. There By the way,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Hop showed that picture one more time. The guy in
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the far left, Hoppy, you remember him, you know him.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: He's our eminem Peanut. He's a he's the mule for Eminem's.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Well for you, I get recent peanut butter cups.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah from Fred Fred's A.
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did see their whole crew out having some food
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: between games. Hoppy, we enjoyed a nice little understandings.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: You took in the doublet there, Yeah, we did so.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Left left the men's game, ran home, changed real quick,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: came back, got a nice little pizza there. Morgantown Brewing
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Company had had very good right down from the coliseum
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: the old Roadhouse. Saw the McPherson's there, talk to them,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: heading right up, got parked their good crowd at the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: women's game.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Good win for Mark Kellogg's crew.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Nice day turns to jusund in the second half there
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: they did ranked it up in second half. Yeah, gentleman
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: from Florida wants to share a West Virginia connection story.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Pharmaceutical rep. I'm visiting a doctor in the small town
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: of Traveris, Florida. Talked for the first time. I mentioned
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: to him that I had moved down from West Virginia.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: He said, hm, my dad was a WV grad and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: that his dad had moved his family down to Florida
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: in the eighties. I ask, so where did you live
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: in West Virginia? He said, Mineral County. I said, wait
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: a second, I grew up in Mineral What time were
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: you from, he says Kaiser. I says, I'm from Kayser too.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: As we spoke more, we realized we had never met.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: But I did play baseball against his cousin course, and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: the doctor mentioned that he had stopped by my grandfather's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: candy company, the Kaiser Candy Company, when he was younger.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Amazing small world. Hope you guys find West Virginia connection
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: of the craziest ways. Yeah, God, bless guys. Don't think.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Thank you for all you do, Don and Trinity. I
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: was thinking about that. Thank you very much. Don, do
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. But is that like a classic thing, the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Kaiser Candy Company. Like, there's not enough businesses that just
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: don't say the city's name and what it is. Like
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: the Morgantown Pop Company. We need to have the Morgantown
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Beer Company, the Morgantown Pop Company. I like that. Morgantown.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: My hometown used to have the Lockport Broom Company. What
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: do they do? They made brooms. They just made brooms. Hey,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: what's in that bill? It's a broom company. They just
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: make brooms in there. I like that, Like that Kaiser
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Candy Company. I'm sure we're gonna get some people letting
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: us know stories about that. Uh P one logan from Louisbourg.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Great senior guys before the game Saturday. I appreciate getting
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: another picture made with you. I even get to talk
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: with Brad a little bit at the women's age. There
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: is there's Logan, all right, and I just wanted to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: let you all three of you know I made it
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: back safely. Oh that's good. Before the winter storm hit,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: we were concerned Logan that you were going to beat
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: that weather. Worried about that. He probably took Charmco through
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Netty to get back in there rather than going right.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Of course, that former Midwest Veco's right there, so you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: go right by that. I did with Logan and I
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: did not get a second selfie at the women's game,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: but we did have a nice chat at the concession
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: stand there.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, he saw Hoppy. He says, congratulations
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: to you on your retirement.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, you retired, Sam black Church, don't
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: start I see tom co.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Raight now. Rupert Texas says, you need to know this
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Today marks the point in our orbit that we are
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: farthest from the sun. We are now gaining light on
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: both ends of the day, day length increasingly that Hoppy
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: every day getting.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: A little bit longer.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Awesome, here's one for you. This is from our buddy
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: jim enjoy the preyleens. Great to see you guys. So
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: they brought us praylings. Hoppy that bag. Did you have
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the bag there in front of the area, there's Jimmy.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Jimmy does an unbelievable job.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: So they made the prey lings. And let me tell
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: us tell you something like if you need a dose
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: of sugar, Like if your sugar's low, you eat one
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: of those sugar's taken care of. Now, how about this.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: He was telling me about his prime rib that he
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: does on Christmas. Oh my, So you see the blue
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: plate at the end of the table, go one plate up,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: that's his prime rib. So he was telling me, you
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: take the weight of the prime rib, you multiply it
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: by five minutes. So let's just say you had a
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: say you had an eight pound prime rib times five, right,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: that's forty minutes. You turn your oven, preheated it four
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: hundred or five hundred, preheat the oven at five hundred.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: You put it on a rack. So eight pound prime
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: rib times five's forty minutes. You put it in in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: there and you cook it for forty minutes and then
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: you shut the oven off and do not touch it
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: and leave it in there. Yes, do not touch it again.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: And he says it's flawless. I'm going to do that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I want to do that.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Texas Shop bringing those cookies up obviously, Yes, prey leans
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: are terrific.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: By the way, you guys are dressed very nicely.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I saw the picture. Guys are dressed very nicely. Hoppy,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: we're at work, I understand that.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: I mean we are. We are representatives of Daniel's Men's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: store located on University Avenue of Morgantown. Every time we
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: step onto that court, we represent Phil.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: On looking Phil and the university, which is sure.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I mean Phil is our fashion. He is our fashion.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: They got Yoda? Is that what he would be? He's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: our Yoda. He's our fashion. Yoda.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: You need to be dressed. What do we wear? Lays
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: it out? Guys look good? Thanks, well done.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Now, Bill the cookie guy came to me the other
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: day and said, wait a seconds. The cameras showed you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: real quick at the Kansas game, said you weren't wearing
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: a suit, so that's correct. Don't wear a suit on
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the road. Excuse me, quarters that vests on the road
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: suits at home. Much easier to travel, uniform much easier,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: much easier when it comes to travel.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Hard to travel with the sport cut there. You don't
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: want to get wrinkled.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: And yeah everything you don't wear a sport jacket on
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: the road, no, correct.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: But everything I wear is from Phil Three guys. I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: made my way to the coliseum for the Oak State game.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: First half while second half got a little nervous as
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the Polks played better. That being said, I'm really digging
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: this team. I hope to see him playing in mid March.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: One last thing, we're going to go into our restaurant, Hoppy,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: here's our new feature rate the plate rate my plate please.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I had dinner at Murials in Fairmount after the game,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: and there it is. He went salad, meat balls, lasagna,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: and carrot case. So if you go to that picture,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: go to the bottom left, like that is a classic
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: use of that grated cheese. I mean that is beautiful.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: That's almost like art, Like we had a lot of
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: snow overnight here, Like that's a beautiful snowfall of reggiano parmesan.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Is that too much cheese?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: No? No, I think at Murials that's it. I mean
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Scott Duart and those folks down there, they do an
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: unbelievable job.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: You know their meatballs are really good too up or right?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Hoppy, you're you're experiencing this right now
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: upon your retirement. You know how hard it is to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: replace a legend. I mean, yeah, it is, it's hard, right,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: same thing with Murals. I mean Rocco has sold Scott Duart.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: He took the thing, oh really, just grabbed it done,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: does a great job.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I'm down on that whole rate the plate that like
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Murial salad, I like to They do a great job
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: with their salad, perfect amount of dressing to let us ratio,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: which is hard to get.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: They give me enough very.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Good carrot cake out what excuse me? Not a carrot
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: cake guy, I'm out reason, I'm out on that plate out.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: No carrot cake, but you it'd be good though it's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: moist everything does. Like when you just say carrot cake
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound good, but the moistness it's a good case.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: So it's okay. It's got to be. It has nothing
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: with carrots, obviously, I mean it has to do with cream,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: cheese or cinnamon or what is it?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: That's hey, what don't you like? What don't you like?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: I would choose something else ten times out of ten.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Well, he asked, your question, is a particular flavorfile you
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: don't like?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: I don't like it?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Fine, you guys typical trying to bully me. I'm not
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: try it on each side of it. He gets snobbish.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: He already got snobbish. Your accusatory like, you're back on
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: talk line, you're retired for one day. You're trying to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: give me a deposition. Here's what I'd say to you,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: two clowns. I don't like caro cake. So we're done.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: That's it. You can get all snobbish, can It's pretty good?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you know what you're talking about.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: People are gonna have personal prefers. Stand and I could
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: completely agree better about that.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know that. He thinks whatever you think. I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: know that is what everybody should agree to.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Stand that right. He does not understand personal preference. You
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: think there's something wrong you both that.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: You bowed up on me. I can tell by your face.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Watch many of your interviews over the years. You could
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: tell what you were doing. So don't need it from
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: you either. Don't like caro cake.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Next, this is something, this is uh, this is interesting.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: So this is Island Island pork tenderloin Island pork tenderloin.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: The salaity said is so good? Goes well, he says
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: with connection three or four. This is Jeff from Sandyville.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: So that he did send the recipe as well. I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: didn't put the recipe in there, but a lot of
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: tropical flavors in that Hawaiian Yeah, like a Hawaiian correct.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: And so if you could put that picture up again,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: if you would please Austin for just a second. I
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: did a I got into it heavy. I blew it
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: up and looked at the meat. I think you're about
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: three degrees too much, about three to four degrees too much.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: It's cooked, it's just a little bit a little bit
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: too well. I think you went about three or four degrees.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: You need a little bit more pink to get that moisture. Personally,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: and this is just strictly my preference, as Brad stated,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: I mean you can have I'm not shaming you. Normally
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: not normally not a huge fan of what I term.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: And my wife calls sweet meats. She's like, she likes
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: like the apple, the apple pull infused. I tend to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: pull back on the more of a savory than I
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: am more of a suite last one.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: So you're saying you can't have a personal preference as
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: to things you want or don't like.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, some people have a personal preference, but you can't.
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  Speaker 2: No one else can have a personal preference. He's allowed
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  Speaker 2: to have his own personal preferences.
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  Speaker 1: Nick, for Madison, which is in Boone County, Maybe not
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  Speaker 1: a rate my plate is more as rate my steak,
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  Speaker 1: as I know, Tony is a big carnivor. How about this,
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  Speaker 1: So what you're looking at right there? This is a
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  Speaker 1: tomahawk steak that he reverse seared on his grill. So
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, Austin, pop it. Then he seared it after
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  Speaker 1: reversing this, reversing it and then want more of that?
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  Speaker 1: Do we have the cut of it? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir Nick, Yes, sir Nick.
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  Speaker 2: Looks good.
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  Speaker 1: You familiar with the reverse seer? Hop? No, So reverse
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  Speaker 1: sear is like sometimes you sear it to start reverse
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  Speaker 1: searing is you cook it a long period of time
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  Speaker 1: at a low temperature to get to the internal temperature
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  Speaker 1: that you want, and then then you sear it once
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  Speaker 1: it gets the internal So you could put a stake
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  Speaker 1: in there and let it go at a low heat
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  Speaker 1: and then you're checking it and once you get to
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  Speaker 1: your internal temper, then you pull it sear it in
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  Speaker 1: its goal. All right, I thought that was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good rate. The plate segment started.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, one more note here, since we're live on this show.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations Javon Small racking out the awards this week as
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  Speaker 2: he should.
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  Speaker 3: As he should.
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  Speaker 1: Also, football recruiting, and I've been busting Brad's busting bread
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  Speaker 1: on this stuff lately. Everything comes from Iowa. West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: has got a commitment from Johnny Pascuzzi tight end from
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  Speaker 1: Iowa transfer Iowa from Iowawkeyes. Yeah, sixty one out of Olathe, Kansas,
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  Speaker 1: coming from the University of coming from the University of
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  Speaker 1: Iowa to West Virginia. They must have it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they have too many time you got twelve tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: Well, apparently he's a blocker. He had one catch this
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  Speaker 1: year for forty yards. But maybe he's gonna you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he'll blossom as a as a pass.
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  Speaker 2: Catch either way, if he's a tight end at I
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  Speaker 2: or whether it catches it, which a lot of them do,
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  Speaker 2: or he's an extension of that offensive line. Either way,
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