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- 1:09Speaker 4: Welcome back to Rock My Finances. This is Live Your
- 1:12Speaker 4: Diamond Life Authentic Q and A for women. We are
- 1:16Speaker 4: on chapter four, so that means you have to go
- 1:19Speaker 4: back and listen to chapter one, two, and three. So
- 1:22Speaker 4: what I've done is, over decades of meeting with thousands
- 1:25Speaker 4: of people and having financial questions and brief questions and
- 1:29Speaker 4: divorce questions and all kinds of different questions, how can
- 1:34Speaker 4: I answer these? So I decided to just accumulate all
- 1:38Speaker 4: these wonderful questions that I've received and answer them on
- 1:40Speaker 4: this show. So we will have different episodes with different
- 1:43Speaker 4: types of questions. This one is about relationship and money.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Chapter three was kind of about that as well, so
- 1:49Speaker 4: if you want more of it after this episode, go
- 1:51Speaker 4: check out chapter three. So number one question, when should
- 1:56Speaker 4: couples talk about debt and financial history? Good question, So
- 2:00Speaker 4: this would be when someone's dating or getting to know someone.
- 2:03Speaker 4: So these conversations usually happy happen once a relationships becomes
- 2:07Speaker 4: more committed. So I know, now, just being where I'm
- 2:12Speaker 4: at right now, people are waiting longer to have the sex.
- 2:16Speaker 4: Have the sex, right, They're not just jumping into bed
- 2:19Speaker 4: right away, especially if they want a long term relationship.
- 2:22Speaker 4: If they're just looking for a quick hookup. Yeah, that
- 2:24Speaker 4: they're going to be doing that. But if they are
- 2:27Speaker 4: looking for a partner for life or at least for
- 2:31Speaker 4: the next ten to fifteen years, they want to wait
- 2:34Speaker 4: longer on the oxytocin. Oxytocin messing up our brain waves
- 2:39Speaker 4: and giving us a false sense of love when maybe
- 2:44Speaker 4: we're not that compatible. So they're waiting on those wonderful
- 2:47Speaker 4: feelings that sexuality can bring them and tell they're really committed.
- 2:52Speaker 4: I would say the same for money. Let's hang on
- 2:55Speaker 4: because that is a big trigger. However, we can still
- 2:58Speaker 4: be talking about our values and things upfront to kind
- 3:01Speaker 4: of give us a gist of the idea, but to
- 3:03Speaker 4: talk about how much debt you have? You know, do
- 3:06Speaker 4: you have any good credit, do you have any bad credit?
- 3:09Speaker 4: What are your financial responsibilities?
- 3:11Speaker 2: You know?
- 3:13Speaker 4: What assets do you have, What liabilities do you have?
- 3:15Speaker 4: We need to build a really good trust foundation before
- 3:19Speaker 4: we start talking about money like that, especially when a
- 3:23Speaker 4: lot of us are dating on dating apps or meeting
- 3:25Speaker 4: people on dating apps and we really don't know them anymore.
- 3:28Speaker 4: It's not like your brother in law is working with
- 3:31Speaker 4: this guy for twenty years and he's introducing you, right,
- 3:33Speaker 4: So we are meeting officially strangers, and so we really
- 3:37Speaker 4: don't know who they are. So let's let's put pump
- 3:41Speaker 4: the brakes a little bit and let's spend some time
- 3:43Speaker 4: getting to know someone before we just start, you know,
- 3:47Speaker 4: divulging all of the special things about us. And our
- 3:50Speaker 4: money is special about us, right, that's our relationship with money.
- 3:54Speaker 4: As a financial advisor myself, I have met with several
- 3:58Speaker 4: couples in their beginning dating periods around you know, four
- 4:01Speaker 4: or five, six months into the system or into the relationship,
- 4:05Speaker 4: and I've met with both of them to talk about money,
- 4:08Speaker 4: and that way, we're not really sharing assets, but we're
- 4:12Speaker 4: talking about how we think about money, how we feel
- 4:14Speaker 4: about money, how we deal with money. Because you all
- 4:17Speaker 4: know me, f word is my favorite word, and how
- 4:20Speaker 4: we feel about money is how we feel about everything.
- 4:23Speaker 4: So it will come up in this love relationship, even
- 4:26Speaker 4: if you don't want it to, it's gonna come up
- 4:28Speaker 4: in this love relationship. So it's a good idea to
- 4:31Speaker 4: talk about some things, but just not right off the bat.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Give it a little bit of time. Okay.
- 4:36Speaker 4: Number two, how do we bring up money without creating tension?
- 4:42Speaker 4: This can be in any length of relationship. Or any
- 4:46Speaker 4: type of relationship. Right money conversations often go better when
- 4:50Speaker 4: framed around shared goals rather than criticism. So like asking
- 4:55Speaker 4: questions like what does financial security look like to you?
- 4:58Speaker 4: That can be something that can open the door right
- 5:03Speaker 4: you can have a really meaningful dialogue around that. The
- 5:06Speaker 4: goal is to understand how they feel about financial security
- 5:10Speaker 4: and what it actually looks like, and not judging around that.
- 5:14Speaker 4: So another question would be what is security to you?
- 5:18Speaker 4: I know that's one of my questions. I ask all
- 5:21Speaker 4: of my clients feeling financially secure? What does that mean?
- 5:24Speaker 4: Some people might say one hundred thousand dollars in the bank.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Somebody else might say no credit card debt. Somebody else
- 5:30Speaker 4: might say being able to control my own money. Somebody
- 5:33Speaker 4: else might be able to say, I have enough money
- 5:34Speaker 4: piled up to where the interest is being made, and
- 5:37Speaker 4: I don't have to work anymore, and I'm secure no
- 5:40Speaker 4: matter what happens with the stock market, if the money
- 5:43Speaker 4: goes up and down, I know that I'm going to
- 5:44Speaker 4: get this fixed interest every month, and I know that
- 5:47Speaker 4: I'm safe. Another person might just say my job brings
- 5:51Speaker 4: me security. Like everybody can have a different answer to
- 5:54Speaker 4: that question. So that's a great question. What does financial
- 5:57Speaker 4: security look like to you? Before that question, you might
- 6:01Speaker 4: even ask is financial security important to you? Is that
- 6:04Speaker 4: one of your values?
- 6:05Speaker 1: Right?
- 6:06Speaker 4: That is one of my huge values is financial freedom,
- 6:10Speaker 4: which equals financial security to me. So that's at the
- 6:13Speaker 4: top of my list, right obviously for what I do,
- 6:16Speaker 4: it should be. So that's a really good way to
- 6:19Speaker 4: ask around it. Now, let me put questions to parents
- 6:23Speaker 4: and children. How do you feel about having the money
- 6:28Speaker 4: that you have right now to do things? How would
- 6:31Speaker 4: you feel if you had more money? How would you
- 6:33Speaker 4: feel if you had less money? To try to gauge
- 6:36Speaker 4: if money stresses them out or not? Especially high schoolers
- 6:39Speaker 4: are great before they go off to college and start.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Handling money on their own or in college.
- 6:44Speaker 4: Right, My daughter always worked, so she's worked since high
- 6:46Speaker 4: school and college and everything, and so she has handled
- 6:50Speaker 4: her own money, which is great. My son handles his
- 6:52Speaker 4: own money like there, you know, he's he's a lot
- 6:56Speaker 4: more frugal than I am or my daughter is. I
- 6:58Speaker 4: can say, which is areas, But how they feel about
- 7:02Speaker 4: money is important. So that's always a good question to anybody
- 7:05Speaker 4: in any age anywhere. Like that's just a great way
- 7:08Speaker 4: to get to know somebody. Question number three, what role
- 7:12Speaker 4: does financial independence play in a healthy relationship? Now, this
- 7:16Speaker 4: is just information from JJ. This is from Jennifer here.
- 7:20Speaker 4: This is my opinion only. Financial independence doesn't mean it's separation.
- 7:25Speaker 4: It means it's confidence and capability of being on your
- 7:29Speaker 4: own with money. So I love like I did a
- 7:33Speaker 4: whole series for feeling independent with your money. No matter
- 7:37Speaker 4: if you're married, been married for fifty years, twenty years,
- 7:39Speaker 4: five years, whatever, you should be able to know that
- 7:42Speaker 4: you can stand on your own two feet with your
- 7:45Speaker 4: own either income or your assets, or your ability to
- 7:50Speaker 4: derive an income, whatever it is. Because if you start
- 7:53Speaker 4: leaning on someone else's income, that's where all kinds of
- 7:56Speaker 4: emotional turmoil comes in. Codependency comes in, financial abuse comes in.
- 8:01Speaker 4: Everyone should know that they can stand on their own
- 8:04Speaker 4: two feet financially. Then you are coming to this relationship
- 8:08Speaker 4: as an equal and not as a victim or a
- 8:10Speaker 4: poor me type of situation. So I believe financial independence
- 8:14Speaker 4: plays a huge role in a healthy relationship. Now you
- 8:18Speaker 4: can know that you both come in with maybe the
- 8:22Speaker 4: same incomer, somebody might be a little bit higher, and
- 8:24Speaker 4: then you choose to maybe someone stays home and takes
- 8:28Speaker 4: care of the kids and starts to raise a family.
- 8:31Speaker 4: That's fine, that's great. But that person that's not earning
- 8:35Speaker 4: an income still needs to have their own account, their
- 8:38Speaker 4: own money, their own access to the family money, and
- 8:42Speaker 4: still needs to know what's happening with the household money
- 8:46Speaker 4: even though they're not bringing in the money. I know,
- 8:48Speaker 4: old school is, you know, the breadwinner controls all rules,
- 8:53Speaker 4: all makes all the decisions. And there's a lot of
- 8:55Speaker 4: religions out there still that says, you know, the man
- 8:58Speaker 4: is the head of the household and he makes all
- 8:59Speaker 4: the decisions, and that's great. All I'm saying is the
- 9:02Speaker 4: other person also needs to know what's happening. They need
- 9:06Speaker 4: to have the passwords to all the bank accounts, They
- 9:08Speaker 4: need to see the statements on a regular basis. They
- 9:11Speaker 4: need to have their couple's money date, like I always
- 9:13Speaker 4: talk about, Right, we all have our money dates weekly,
- 9:16Speaker 4: but then we have a couple's money date at least monthly,
- 9:18Speaker 4: if not quarterly. We both need to be in really
- 9:21Speaker 4: good communication on what's happening with our finances. We need
- 9:25Speaker 4: to talk about our vacation spending plan. We need to
- 9:28Speaker 4: talk about our children's college spending plan. We need to
- 9:32Speaker 4: talk about how much we want to spend going out
- 9:34Speaker 4: to dinner on that great bottle of wine, or the
- 9:37Speaker 4: future of our children, Like do we want to save
- 9:40Speaker 4: enough money so that one person doesn't have to work
- 9:42Speaker 4: and they can stay home with the kids. Is that
- 9:44Speaker 4: important to you? Or do both parents want to work
- 9:48Speaker 4: the entire time? And if so, how much are we
- 9:50Speaker 4: going to pay for daycare? Do we need family daycare?
- 9:54Speaker 4: There's so many questions that revolve around money. I highly
- 9:58Speaker 4: suggest that if you don't have a good relationship with
- 10:01Speaker 4: money yourself, your relationship is not going to have a
- 10:04Speaker 4: good relationship with money either.
- 10:06Speaker 2: So definitely pulling a coach. I know a really good
- 10:09Speaker 2: money coach. Hmmm. I think her name's Jennifer. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 10:14Speaker 2: I think I would give her a call.
- 10:15Speaker 4: I swear she helps help thousands of people and tons
- 10:18Speaker 4: of couples to get ready on the same page around money.
- 10:21Speaker 2: And it's easy.
- 10:23Speaker 4: I know it doesn't feel easy because it feels so big,
- 10:26Speaker 4: But I tell you it's an easy, step by step
- 10:28Speaker 4: process to get on the good relationship with money so
- 10:31Speaker 4: that your relationship can be about you and your love
- 10:34Speaker 4: and your future and your fun and not about the
- 10:37Speaker 4: stress around money. Okay, question number four, how can couples
- 10:42Speaker 4: talk about money in a way that builds trust? Now,
- 10:45Speaker 4: when we are just starting dating, we don't have that trust, right,
- 10:49Speaker 4: We just we're just learning this person. So trust grows
- 10:52Speaker 4: when money conversations are consistent, respectful and transparent. Couples who
- 10:59Speaker 4: regularly check in about finances tend to avoid surprises and misunderstandings.
- 11:03Speaker 4: So we want to set up our money date. Yes,
- 11:06Speaker 4: you heard it here. I know you hear it all
- 11:08Speaker 4: the time, but we need to literally schedule that as
- 11:11Speaker 4: sacred time. And I know we can always push things
- 11:14Speaker 4: back and push things away, but when you're at work
- 11:17Speaker 4: and your boss needs something, you get that done, right.
- 11:19Speaker 4: So you need to hold your relationship with money and
- 11:22Speaker 4: your relationship with your person, your special person sacred. That
- 11:25Speaker 4: is sacred time that does not get messed up. So
- 11:28Speaker 4: we need to talk about money on a consistent basis.
- 11:30Speaker 4: You can pick the time, you can pick the weekly, monthly, quarterly,
- 11:35Speaker 4: nothing more than that. I mean, we all have to
- 11:37Speaker 4: do it every time around our taxes. Right right now,
- 11:40Speaker 4: this happens to be March, so we're getting ready for
- 11:42Speaker 4: our tax time. I just submitted Allline to my CPA,
- 11:45Speaker 4: which is awesome.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Feels so good.
- 11:48Speaker 4: So I get a little pat on my back because
- 11:50Speaker 4: I actually accomplish something and that feels really good too.
- 11:53Speaker 4: And when we're having that conversation with our a special
- 11:55Speaker 4: person about money, and it tends to go a little
- 11:58Speaker 4: bit more negative, stop, take a breath, walk away for
- 12:03Speaker 4: a minute. Say I'm gonna need a ten minute walk
- 12:05Speaker 4: around the block. I'm gonna go walk the dog, I'm
- 12:07Speaker 4: gonna go take a hot shower, I'm gonna go jump
- 12:09Speaker 4: in the pool, whatever it takes. I'm gonna go have
- 12:12Speaker 4: a cup of coffee and then come back to the conversation.
- 12:15Speaker 4: But really, during that time, it's not just about walking
- 12:19Speaker 4: away and going, oh my god, they're so stupid. No no,
- 12:20Speaker 4: no no, and put them down and put it all
- 12:23Speaker 4: on them. Your time to walk away, always in every
- 12:26Speaker 4: fight is reflection upon how you can do better. So
- 12:29Speaker 4: when we take a break and walk away, it's I mean,
- 12:32Speaker 4: my question to me, is what is that really about.
- 12:35Speaker 4: It's never about what we think it is, and it's
- 12:38Speaker 4: never about the money. It's about what's underneath my relationship
- 12:42Speaker 4: with money. So what am I really feeling here? And
- 12:45Speaker 4: what I'm usually feeling is I'm not perfect, or I'm
- 12:48Speaker 4: less than or I've made a mistake, or I'm afraid
- 12:50Speaker 4: I'm gonna make a mistake, or i feel bad about
- 12:53Speaker 4: the future. All Right'm sorry, I feel bad about something
- 12:56Speaker 4: I've done in the past, and I'm bringing that forward
- 12:58Speaker 4: to this conversation. So it's always good to step away,
- 13:02Speaker 4: take a breath and say, Okay, what am I really
- 13:04Speaker 4: bringing to this conversation, and how can I say, you
- 13:07Speaker 4: know what, I forgive myself for the past. Let me
- 13:10Speaker 4: just know that everything's going to be fine. The universe
- 13:13Speaker 4: has got my back, Everything's always working out for me.
- 13:16Speaker 4: And step forward into the conversation of what I really
- 13:19Speaker 4: want done. And usually there's a savor and a spender, right,
- 13:23Speaker 4: and if the saver can be consistently coherently and without
- 13:29Speaker 4: put downs, the spender is going to hear the savor,
- 13:33Speaker 4: They're going to hear them on I'm just really nervous
- 13:36Speaker 4: about spending this much money. And I'm nervous because I
- 13:40Speaker 4: want to do this and this, and I'm not going
- 13:43Speaker 4: to be able to do that if we spend too
- 13:45Speaker 4: much here. And it's keeping it with eye messages, keeping
- 13:48Speaker 4: it in the feeling level, keeping it from the heart level,
- 13:51Speaker 4: keeping it of like you're wrong, you're spending way too
- 13:53Speaker 4: much money. I can't believe you're doing that. No, no, no, no,
- 13:56Speaker 4: it's I feel nervous because I'm afraid we're not going
- 13:59Speaker 4: to have enough money to go do this or go
- 14:01Speaker 4: do that. Does that make sense? So it's a lot
- 14:04Speaker 4: of different ways that we can build trust. And the
- 14:06Speaker 4: more conversations you have without blaming and judgment the other person,
- 14:11Speaker 4: the more trust builds. And once we have a lot
- 14:14Speaker 4: of trust, it's like it's like overflowing in our bucket. Right,
- 14:17Speaker 4: we are just overflowing in our bucket. It's amazing.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Okay.
- 14:20Speaker 4: Question number five? What financial conversation should happen before moving
- 14:24Speaker 4: in together or even getting married? Couples benefit from discussing income, debt,
- 14:28Speaker 4: spending habits, financial goals and expectations for managing money together. Also,
- 14:34Speaker 4: financial advisors can help with this, y'all, and money coaches
- 14:36Speaker 4: just saying I help couples get organized all the time.
- 14:40Speaker 2: How are we going to start with this?
- 14:42Speaker 4: We have our spending sheet, we have our ideas of
- 14:45Speaker 4: where our bills are now, we set up our money dates,
- 14:48Speaker 4: we want to talk about everything we want to talk about. Okay,
- 14:51Speaker 4: the wedding. The wedding could be very expensive. Do we
- 14:54Speaker 4: want to spend that much money on the wedding or
- 14:57Speaker 4: do we value assets more? Do we want to go
- 15:00Speaker 4: buy a rental house for property income later? Do we
- 15:03Speaker 4: want to buy a business? Do we want to start
- 15:07Speaker 4: a business? Do we want to buy a house first?
- 15:11Speaker 2: What do we want?
- 15:12Speaker 4: Do we want to make sure all of our debt
- 15:13Speaker 4: is paid before we buy a house? Then? You know,
- 15:16Speaker 4: if you're choosing a couple that's having children, then that's
- 15:20Speaker 4: a conversation to have. Is it a couple with college
- 15:23Speaker 4: debt still education debt that they need to have that
- 15:26Speaker 4: paid off. There's lots of different conversations that we can
- 15:29Speaker 4: have remembering not from judgment, not from blame, but from
- 15:32Speaker 4: my messages and how I feel, Which is why we
- 15:35Speaker 4: all need to know our relationship with money before we
- 15:39Speaker 4: jump into a couple, before we jump into living together.
- 15:42Speaker 4: Living together is a little bit easier because you need
- 15:47Speaker 4: to be able to take care of the household. Do
- 15:48Speaker 4: we want to have a joint account? So when I
- 15:51Speaker 4: lived with my last husband, yep, I've had three y'all,
- 15:55Speaker 4: and I might not be done. We'll see how it goes.
- 15:58Speaker 4: But I just got I just did a episode on
- 16:00Speaker 4: a Kashak Records. You guys should check that out's with
- 16:02Speaker 4: Kelly Jones. I just did that. I recorded that episode.
- 16:05Speaker 4: It was amazing, and she said that my acoustic soul
- 16:10Speaker 4: records say that I'm good right now, and I feel
- 16:12Speaker 4: really good about being single right now because I'm very
- 16:15Speaker 4: busy birthing this amazing destiny that I have for help,
- 16:21Speaker 4: I think empowering women, and I choose to do that
- 16:24Speaker 4: around money.
- 16:25Speaker 2: So you're in the right place anyways.
- 16:27Speaker 4: So knowing that when I did move in with my
- 16:31Speaker 4: last husband, we did have a joint household checking account
- 16:34Speaker 4: as well, and so then we both contributed to that
- 16:37Speaker 4: household checking account, so that household checking account paid for
- 16:41Speaker 4: groceries around the house, dinners out, vacations that we wanted
- 16:45Speaker 4: to do together. So it was kind of like our
- 16:46Speaker 4: relationship account. And then I had my money, he had
- 16:50Speaker 4: his money. We had independence. Then if you wanted to
- 16:53Speaker 4: buy each other a gift, you didn't know you know
- 16:54Speaker 4: where that was coming from or anything like that, which
- 16:56Speaker 4: was very nice. But we also contributed together to the
- 17:00Speaker 4: household financially, and we both put in the equal amount
- 17:03Speaker 4: each month, which felt very good. So we had independence
- 17:07Speaker 4: and we had autonomy, and we had a relationship that
- 17:10Speaker 4: was very important, and we paid our relationship right. We
- 17:14Speaker 4: gave our relationship money.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Okay.
- 17:17Speaker 4: Question number seven, what if someone was financially hurt in
- 17:21Speaker 4: a past relationship? Okay, ding, ding Ding, that's a great question.
- 17:25Speaker 4: Financial betrayal can leave emotional scars one hundred percent. A
- 17:29Speaker 4: money coach can help with someone processing that experience and
- 17:32Speaker 4: rebuild confidence, while a financial advisor can help create safeguards
- 17:37Speaker 4: that provide security moving forward.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Okay. Basically, what that means is, I'm here to help
- 17:42Speaker 2: you all. For sure.
- 17:43Speaker 4: We want to make sure that you're not bringing your
- 17:47Speaker 4: past into this relationship. We want to look at what
- 17:50Speaker 4: happened in the past, what we would have done different,
- 17:52Speaker 4: and what we would do different moving forward, so that
- 17:55Speaker 4: you are independent in this new relationship with money and
- 17:58Speaker 4: this new person. So we don't bring our past hurts
- 18:01Speaker 4: in even though we are all an accumulation of our
- 18:04Speaker 4: experiences in every relationship, and if we've been betrayed in
- 18:08Speaker 4: the past about anything, we tend to bring that in
- 18:11Speaker 4: our money relationship. So we really do want to look
- 18:14Speaker 4: back at our past. So I picture us driving in
- 18:17Speaker 4: a car together. Okay, y'all were sitting in a car together.
- 18:20Speaker 4: Mine happens to be a convertible, because that's just the
- 18:22Speaker 4: way I'm rolling right now, and we are sitting together.
- 18:25Speaker 4: I'm in the passenger seat, you're in the driver's seat,
- 18:28Speaker 4: and we're looking through the windshield. Now we have a
- 18:31Speaker 4: rearview mirror for you to glance at to tell me
- 18:34Speaker 4: about the past. We need to look at the past
- 18:37Speaker 4: so that we can find out where it's coming from.
- 18:39Speaker 4: But then we're going to heal that, release that, forgive that,
- 18:43Speaker 4: and we're going to keep looking through the windshield moving forward.
- 18:47Speaker 4: So we need to know where the past hurt came from.
- 18:49Speaker 4: Release that, throw it out the top of the convertible top,
- 18:52Speaker 4: and just get rid of that past.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Because it's not there anymore.
- 18:55Speaker 4: And we're going to keep looking through the windshield with
- 18:57Speaker 4: new processes, new thoughts, new experiences, and new behaviors, so
- 19:03Speaker 4: we can always get through a past hurt, for sure.
- 19:06Speaker 4: I Mean, I've met a lot of people that have
- 19:08Speaker 4: been absolutely utterly screwed in their divorces, and unfortunately there's
- 19:13Speaker 4: always one side that I shouldn't say always, because since
- 19:16Speaker 4: I'm a certified divorce financial analyst, We've had a lot
- 19:18Speaker 4: of great separations that each side did have to compromise.
- 19:23Speaker 2: You never going to get everything you want.
- 19:25Speaker 4: But they felt okay with walking away and still raising
- 19:29Speaker 4: their kids as co parents. Which is my most important
- 19:32Speaker 4: thing is I want to make sure that the parents
- 19:33Speaker 4: can still talk to each other if there's kids involved.
- 19:36Speaker 4: So that's the most important thing in a divorce with kids.
- 19:39Speaker 4: So we can get past those past hurts and say, Okay,
- 19:42Speaker 4: I was a different person back back then. I'm a
- 19:44Speaker 4: different person than I am now. I would react differently.
- 19:47Speaker 4: That wouldn't happen to me now because I would be
- 19:49Speaker 4: stepping up differently. So we can absolutely get rid of
- 19:53Speaker 4: those past hurts. A lot of people, you know, we meditate,
- 19:57Speaker 4: we have prayer, we have retreats that we go to
- 20:01Speaker 4: and all kinds of things just to release the past.
- 20:04Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
- 20:05Speaker 2: Okay? Number eight?
- 20:07Speaker 4: What is the healthiest mindset for couples approaching money together?
- 20:11Speaker 2: I love this.
- 20:11Speaker 4: The healthiest mindset is seeing money as a shared tool
- 20:15Speaker 4: rather than a source of control or conflict. When couples
- 20:19Speaker 4: view finances as a way to support their values and
- 20:22Speaker 4: goals and future together, money becomes something that strengthens the
- 20:26Speaker 4: partnership rather than divides it. So when I go into
- 20:29Speaker 4: a household and I meet with people, I still go
- 20:30Speaker 4: to their houses.
- 20:31Speaker 2: I love it.
- 20:31Speaker 4: I love it because then I get to see how
- 20:33Speaker 4: they live. All their papers are there, and it's easier
- 20:35Speaker 4: to answer any questions I might have. I have them
- 20:37Speaker 4: do a mission statement for their household and put it
- 20:40Speaker 4: on the refrigerator, like we do mission statements for new
- 20:43Speaker 4: businesses and things like that. But each relationship should have
- 20:46Speaker 4: a mission statement. We should have a values list. I
- 20:49Speaker 4: have a values list. You have a values list, and
- 20:51Speaker 4: we have a values list together. What do we want
- 20:54Speaker 4: our relationship to value? I am One of my values
- 20:58Speaker 4: is service. I really do believe in service, and my
- 21:01Speaker 4: relationship I would want it to believe in service too,
- 21:03Speaker 4: So I would want to give service as a relationship
- 21:05Speaker 4: as well. So I would be hoping that that person
- 21:08Speaker 4: would want to be agreeing with service as a value
- 21:11Speaker 4: of the relationship. It could be anywhere. It could be monetarily,
- 21:14Speaker 4: it could be our time time spent. It could be
- 21:18Speaker 4: our skills or expertise, whatever it might be. So come
- 21:21Speaker 4: to it as a source of just a shared tool.
- 21:26Speaker 4: Money is just what our country created, our world created
- 21:31Speaker 4: to get things done right. I share money with you, you
- 21:34Speaker 4: share time with me. I share money with you. You
- 21:37Speaker 4: give me goods and services. That's all it is. That
- 21:41Speaker 4: is all it is. It's not who I am. It
- 21:43Speaker 4: does not reflect on my heart, It does not reflect
- 21:47Speaker 4: on my intelligence, it does not reflect on how much
- 21:51Speaker 4: good and love I can give someone. It actually just
- 21:54Speaker 4: reflects as a tool for me to share goods and services.
- 21:58Speaker 4: That's all it is. So let's not put too much
- 22:01Speaker 4: importance on money, even though it's my career. But that's okay.
- 22:07Speaker 4: So we want to look at it as in our relationship.
- 22:10Speaker 4: We want to know our values, our shared values, our goals,
- 22:13Speaker 4: our shared goals, the goals for us individually and the
- 22:17Speaker 4: goals for us as a relationship. What do we want
- 22:22Speaker 4: our highest and best good for our relationship to be.
- 22:25Speaker 4: And if you can talk about all of that and
- 22:27Speaker 4: trust each other, do it holding hands. Do it in
- 22:30Speaker 4: a hot tub, do it in the swimming pool, do
- 22:33Speaker 4: it while you're playing pick a ball, do it where
- 22:35Speaker 4: you're in love having fun, so that it brings love
- 22:39Speaker 4: and fun to the relationship. With money in your relationship,
- 22:43Speaker 4: and if you're independent like I am, then we have
- 22:45Speaker 4: all the control in the world on when we want
- 22:47Speaker 4: to deal with our money right and our money dates.
- 22:49Speaker 2: And I love that and we do it.
- 22:50Speaker 4: I do it when I'm in a great mood and
- 22:52Speaker 4: I'm loving and I'm having a really, really good time.
- 22:55Speaker 4: I want you all to be able to schedule your
- 22:56Speaker 4: money dates every week for thirty minutes, and I want
- 22:59Speaker 4: you all to be able to say, I rock my finances.
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