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Hour Three | LSU Baseball Portal Update, Final WR 1 Tier List, Nick Saban Stories · Off The Bench

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Say Hester and Hester got it from.
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  Speaker 1: Carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each other.
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  Speaker 3: On the air the Troll.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the Raising Kine studio, It's off the Bench.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back again, I number three vote.
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  Speaker 5: We do that now, Jake Flynn Moose, Hey, guys, or
• 0:37
  Speaker 5: should I say yow?
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna have to do it morning?
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  Speaker 3: We we yo, but then we also how okay, but
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  Speaker 3: but I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and we don't have to. I mean, but you
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  Speaker 5: gotta yo, fair yea, yeah, yeah, dare all right?
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  Speaker 6: Good?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, fair enough. He didn't want to know.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, look I appreciate his reason. He's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: in the wolf pack. I feel like a poser. Honorary though.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, yeah, honorary.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean sure the producer on TV before.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, okay, I mean talking about it earlier, I said, nobody,
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  Speaker 3: and I mean nobody could crash out at six forty
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  Speaker 3: seven am like Moose used to.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, when something wasn't working.
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  Speaker 5: You see me now at six forty five am, JS,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not supposed to be awake at that time.
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  Speaker 7: So when I'm awake. It's it's a big crash.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we always talk about you not You're still
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  Speaker 3: not a morning person now, you know me, Dude, you're
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  Speaker 3: here like at six.
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  Speaker 6: Twenty last month or two then about.
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  Speaker 3: Six forty Okay, every day you're here and you're ready
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  Speaker 3: to go. It's my point, yep, but you're still not
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  Speaker 3: a morning person right now.
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  Speaker 6: Moose.
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  Speaker 5: Never got there either. Yeah, it's probably won't ever get there.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to it's hard to read. Never got there.
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  Speaker 4: But I am, like, compared to me in the past,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a morning person. Like at one point in my life,
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  Speaker 4: this wouldn't have wasn't possible. It wasn't at all possible.
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  Speaker 4: I told you I rewired my Were you late ever
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  Speaker 4: in green? Like just you know by one time I
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  Speaker 4: was late. I was late to one meeting? Yeah in
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  Speaker 4: six years? Pretty good, Yeah, good ratio.
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  Speaker 6: I had one, had one.
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  Speaker 4: It was on a Saturday morning too.
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  Speaker 3: I had one where the power went out and my
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  Speaker 3: phone went out. Plugged it in the night before as
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  Speaker 3: like you know seven percent or something, yep, so plugged
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  Speaker 3: the phone in, power went out. Didn't have a whole
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  Speaker 3: home generator, and so my phone died and so the
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  Speaker 3: alarm didn't go off, and I woke up at like
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  Speaker 3: we had to be there at seven, and I woke
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  Speaker 3: up like at six thirty seven, and I was probably
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  Speaker 3: seventeen seconds late. Oh man, Now it was like a
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  Speaker 3: forty minute drive and I and I made it close.
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  Speaker 6: I made it close.
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  Speaker 4: Fly. I was, oh boy, levitating to the facility.
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  Speaker 6: But it wasn't too bad.
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  Speaker 3: You made it, you know, like small fine or something,
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  Speaker 3: because I've never been late before. But having to tell them,
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  Speaker 3: like the excuse, like I know this sounds made up.
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  Speaker 4: I know it does. I'm sorry, but this is what
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  Speaker 4: it is for real. It's like my dog gave me
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  Speaker 4: homework exactly. That's what I felt, like what happens to you? Actually,
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  Speaker 4: Nor was like literally.
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  Speaker 3: Laughing at it, like you weren't mad because I've never
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  Speaker 3: been remotely close to them.
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  Speaker 6: Late Mon was late in the season. I woke up
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  Speaker 6: like eight twenty two.
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  Speaker 4: This is Saturday, so we had eight thirty so late
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  Speaker 4: late meeting because it was a Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: So and I'm not trying to be funny.
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  Speaker 3: You probably lived being a green Bay, probably somewhere close.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everything in Green Bay, no matter where you are
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  Speaker 4: ten minutes away. All right, usually it's seven. Uh so
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  Speaker 4: I like wake up and my alarm did what it
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to. It was going off. It just didn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: It did the job, a job by body. It was
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  Speaker 4: just like, no, it's not gonna work today. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 6: And uh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was like sprinting through the parking lot and it's
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  Speaker 4: like probably zero degrees, throwing on my shirt, flip flops everything.
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  Speaker 6: I was fine. I ended up being five minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Late, so I got there thirteen minutes from the moment
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  Speaker 4: that I was Yeah, which is crazy. How quick you
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  Speaker 4: can get out the door when you got to get
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  Speaker 4: out the door? Yeah, Paradi normal driving too fast for
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  Speaker 4: weather conditions.
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  Speaker 6: Flashers on.
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  Speaker 3: Who gave you the all all your flashes are on
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  Speaker 3: in the rain here, So who gave you the hardest time?
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  Speaker 4: M probably your peers for sure. No, I got I
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  Speaker 4: got yeah, fine, yeah, yeah fine, yeah, you can't remember
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  Speaker 4: what it was? Not too bad, man, But that was
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  Speaker 4: the one time I think, thank god, it was like
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  Speaker 4: my it was probably my third or fourth year. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't my first year. Thank god.
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  Speaker 6: Can you imagine me in late your first year? That
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  Speaker 6: just kidding. He never earned the road to be late.
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  Speaker 4: Except that one time it was like, we had a
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  Speaker 4: guy get cut because he was late to a meeting.
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  Speaker 4: He was like undrafted dB, yeah, practice squad guy whatever.
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  Speaker 4: A week before that, Aaron Rodgers was late to a
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  Speaker 4: team meeting and he get cut and he was complaining.
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  Speaker 4: I was about to say another word. He was complaining
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  Speaker 4: in the locker room.
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  Speaker 6: Can you yeah, thumbs up? You can say it if
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  Speaker 6: it's like a verb, as long as we get permission
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  Speaker 6: from Luke. Yeah, I mean Luke's and big thimbs up
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  Speaker 6: back there, and he gave it. He was complaining. I'm
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  Speaker 6: gonna say complain.
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  Speaker 3: N Moose's normal host that he works with, says that
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  Speaker 3: all the time in the show.
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  Speaker 6: That's how I that's how I know you can say it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got literally how I know you can say that.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry. No, he was complaining about, you know, things not
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  Speaker 4: being fair.
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  Speaker 6: Who did it? Well, Yeah, life's not fair, my guy.
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  Speaker 6: That's the world.
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  Speaker 4: We don't play.
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  Speaker 6: That guy that was.
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  Speaker 3: Late last week might be in the history of football
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  Speaker 3: not the best quarterback, although he's one of them. He's
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  Speaker 3: the best thrower of the football that we've ever seen
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  Speaker 3: in this game.
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  Speaker 6: He can be five minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Late and like, newsflash, if you're one of these people
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  Speaker 4: that thinks that everything in life is fair, then you
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  Speaker 4: you got a lot to learn about life.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to him though, for taking the shot.
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  Speaker 6: I respect it.
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  Speaker 2: I respect it a little bit. He's like, if I'm leaving,
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  Speaker 2: he is, he has to leave too.
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  Speaker 3: I've told this story. I've told this story like a
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  Speaker 3: thousand times. But anytime a conversation like this comes up.
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  Speaker 3: Just to back it up, We're watching tape and we
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  Speaker 3: got a running back in there who's running a choice
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  Speaker 3: route and he makes the wrong decision. There's a bad
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  Speaker 3: route in norv is hammering him thinking it's Darren Sprolls
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  Speaker 3: hammering him.
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  Speaker 4: Spros, Wait, wait, what do you do? You gotta do this?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 4: The linebacker goes out, You gotta cut in.
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  Speaker 3: You got to go to see him, and Phillip's gonna
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  Speaker 3: hit you down the hash Hey, coach, that's LT.
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  Speaker 4: Helliver out.
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  Speaker 6: LT moves on to the nus yob It just moves
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  Speaker 6: on to the next play.
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  Speaker 3: Next, and there's Rolls is a borderline Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 3: guy himself as a returner. He was on the Old
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  Speaker 3: Decade team Hellver out elt go some next play not
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  Speaker 3: everybody plays by the same set of.
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  Speaker 6: Rules, right, Sorry, guys, you make your own breaks. But
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  Speaker 6: Aron Rodgers late last week last week.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, Oh, you're right, let's cut him. It's a
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  Speaker 4: great point. We have to step in. It's a multi
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  Speaker 4: billion dollar organization. We have to be fair, Flinn. Next
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  Speaker 4: man up, Aaron was late?
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  Speaker 6: What's not being clear? Next man up? Oh? That poor guy.
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  Speaker 3: And I know he probably felt like pretty passionate about
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  Speaker 3: that too, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And Aaron was probably like late because he was like
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  Speaker 4: in a training room, gooding treatment.
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  Speaker 3: Probably yeah, oh that actually happens more than you think.
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  Speaker 3: Anywho's Yeah, I don't fun. I don't know where that
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  Speaker 3: came from. Squirrel seeing summertime at OTB anytime. So Moose,
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad we have.
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  Speaker 6: You here today.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks, I'm glad to be here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no reason, just in general, like we we like you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that, guys. I like y'all too, like you.
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  Speaker 3: And look, this is probably a better version at nine
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  Speaker 3: o'clock and not six forty five.
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  Speaker 6: I would have seen no, I mean, yeah, absolutely, now
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  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: You do get the six forty five version tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: That's true. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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  Speaker 7: We're not there yet, we'll get there.
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  Speaker 3: But I did want to pick your brain on LSU
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  Speaker 3: baseball and the transfer portal. Now, they haven't really lost
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  Speaker 3: any names that have been surprising to any of us
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  Speaker 3: as far as their players that have gone in the
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  Speaker 3: transfer portal. Maybe Maverick Rizzy maybe, but he's looking to
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  Speaker 3: do something bigger and you know, probably be a weekend
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  Speaker 3: starter somewhere and probably not gonna get that opportunity here
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  Speaker 3: at LSU. So the guys leaving not really the concern.
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  Speaker 3: The guys coming in. That's going to be the thing
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  Speaker 3: we I hustle all summer long. I know there's you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously there's a player from Gonzaga that there's an article
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  Speaker 3: on Losing Sports dot net that you can check out
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  Speaker 3: right now. But first off, like, what are you expecting
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  Speaker 3: LSU to do in the transfer portal? And maybe who
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  Speaker 3: are some of the top targets that fans can kind
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  Speaker 3: of pay attention to to see if they end up
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  Speaker 3: becoming Tigers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the positions of need are pretty clear
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  Speaker 5: in my mind. I mean, corner outfield for sure, you
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  Speaker 5: can if you want to get a centerfielder you can,
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  Speaker 5: but we'll see if they allow or give William Patrick
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  Speaker 5: the opportunity to earn that spot. I think they'll give
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  Speaker 5: them opportunity to earn it. I don't think it's it's
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  Speaker 5: his right. So you can see some very versatile outfielders,
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  Speaker 5: but you definitely need corner outfield. Losing Stanfield and Brown
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  Speaker 5: for sure. That's two positions as opposed to as opposed
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  Speaker 5: to one, you have good athletes that you can ye.
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  Speaker 7: Athletes figure it out, as people often say.
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  Speaker 5: So outfield's one, specifically on the corner a third base
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  Speaker 5: is extremely intriguing to me. And then your middle endfield.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you'll wait and see what happens with Steven Mila.
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  Speaker 5: I mean the draft deadline, I believe is August the
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  Speaker 5: first to decide if you're signing or coming back. So
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  Speaker 5: you got a long way to go before you actually
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  Speaker 5: know that decision. You know one what he's going to do,
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  Speaker 5: and even on August first, you might not know. I
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  Speaker 5: want to be able to be draft as nuts. So
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  Speaker 5: middle endfield preferably shortstop because those guys can obviously play
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  Speaker 5: normally second and third if you need them to. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: if you want to go get a third basement specifically,
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  Speaker 5: that's fine. You mentioned Mikey Bell from uh Gonzaga, who's
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  Speaker 5: a two time Conference Player of the Year, has been
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  Speaker 5: awesome for the Zags, but is a draft risk, like
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  Speaker 5: a big draft risk in July.
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  Speaker 7: I mean we've seen that with LSU obvious, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: mean a.
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  Speaker 6: Couple of guys and it's like actually moving to the draft. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, like that's just it's like the high
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  Speaker 5: school class, right, It's just a risk that you take.
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  Speaker 5: But you're not gonna not go out there and try
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  Speaker 5: to get the best player possible on the chance that
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  Speaker 5: they show up.
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  Speaker 7: So he's obviously very intriguing.
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  Speaker 5: Probably not not a glove first guy, but not a
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  Speaker 5: not a liability in the field, but definitely could swing
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  Speaker 5: the bat if you're looking at outfield. I mean Jason
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  Speaker 5: Watchs from Tulane has been a name that's been floated
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  Speaker 5: out there.
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  Speaker 7: So I mean those two it's interesting to me too.
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  Speaker 5: Jake is first base, because say you don't hit what
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  Speaker 5: you necessarily want to in the portal. Mason Brawn has
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  Speaker 5: shown that he could play some corner outfield, so would
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  Speaker 5: you potentially consider that, maybe try to teach I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: say Omarsna first base.
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  Speaker 7: You saw him over there a little bit. You saw John.
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  Speaker 5: Pearson at first base a little bit last year, so
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  Speaker 5: I think you have some options there, and you're bringing
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  Speaker 5: in a couple in your recruiting classes, in your high
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  Speaker 5: school class as well.
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  Speaker 7: And then it's starting pitching.
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  Speaker 5: And I really should have started there because that was
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: your number one thing this year that you had to
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: replace losing Anderson.
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  Speaker 7: Iinsen you replaced it.
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  Speaker 5: It just didn't take the same jump, And to be honest,
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: expecting them to take that same jump was really unfair
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  Speaker 5: because you don't go from an era of twenty seven
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  Speaker 5: to the number three pick in the draft very often.
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  Speaker 5: That's just not a thing that KATEA. Anderson is going
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  Speaker 5: to be in the major leagues after the All Star
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  Speaker 5: break probably, So like that.
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  Speaker 6: Just tearing it up too.
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  Speaker 7: And I mean, no, he's a great farm system for
• 12:05
  Speaker 7: a great team.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a no.
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  Speaker 7: I mean they have good pitching. Can he swing the bat?
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  Speaker 7: That's what a real problem.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, this is in a Red Sox segment, So
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  Speaker 5: I mean starting pitching. You look at Birdie Tross players
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  Speaker 5: obviously the name that everybody's talked about here lately. Elbow injury,
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  Speaker 5: not Tommy john internal brace, which is about four to
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  Speaker 5: six months instead of eighteen months for Tommy John's that's great.
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  Speaker 5: He was in Fayetteville yesterday though as well. He'll see
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  Speaker 5: Tennessee State, all those schools from Thibodeaux originally yeah North
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  Speaker 5: in Northwestern State. The injury happened early April, if I
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  Speaker 5: remember correctly, and he was shut down then, so four
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  Speaker 5: to six months could have him back obviously twenty three seven,
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  Speaker 5: So you're gonna see the big programs on him. And
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  Speaker 5: then I know a name that we threw out at
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  Speaker 5: the very end of AFR yesterday as well, was I
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  Speaker 5: Landon Hood, also from Gonzaga. Freshman of the Year in
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  Speaker 5: the conference this past season. Sixteen appearances, four starts was awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Up to ninety six.
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  Speaker 5: That's a guy who's gonna be a high priority and
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  Speaker 5: wanted by a lot of teams. So they're fishing in
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  Speaker 5: the big pond right now as you would expect, and uh,
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna be in for some battles. How like I think,
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  Speaker 5: I think tross player is the big example of that,
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  Speaker 5: right How often do you see a kid from Thibodeau
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  Speaker 5: and not say that he won't end up at LSU,
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  Speaker 5: But how often do you see a kid from Thibodeau
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  Speaker 5: who grew up here his whole life, probably worshiped LSU baseball,
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  Speaker 5: show up on campus for unofficial and then go, actually,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go see some other schools in the conference too, right,
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  Speaker 5: Like you're you're in that, you're in that group where
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  Speaker 5: they're all in high demand.
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  Speaker 3: It's always Yeah, that's a big advantage for LSU, certainly
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  Speaker 3: to have somebody from this state that doesn't really matter
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  Speaker 3: where you're at in the state. You grew up going
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  Speaker 3: to the box, watching games at the box, wanting to
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  Speaker 3: play in the box.
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  Speaker 6: So I do think that is a big advantage for them.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it's advantage for LSU that they've had
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  Speaker 3: this extra time not making the postseason?
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  Speaker 6: I would have to imagine it's.
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  Speaker 3: Beneficial compared to last year with I mean, Jay's winning
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  Speaker 3: the national championship and like that night he's doing nothing
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  Speaker 3: but recruiting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, benefit started getting to start before the portal even
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  Speaker 5: officially opens, rather than starting on June twenty second, when
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  Speaker 5: it closes in eight days.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, for sure, there is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it gives you a lot of time for
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  Speaker 5: eval and that that sort of thing, and yeah, it
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  Speaker 5: got I think what it did most is it got
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  Speaker 5: it allowed them to get their roster in order from
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  Speaker 5: this past season. Have those exit meetings a little earlier,
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  Speaker 5: have the decisions made of who you know, who's gonna
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  Speaker 5: come back, who's leaving, whose priority, all of those things
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  Speaker 5: where you could really make your board earlier know what
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  Speaker 5: you needed, not that they didn't already know what they need,
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  Speaker 5: but know what they needed, and then attack it bam
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  Speaker 5: June first, right when the portal opens, looking.
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  Speaker 3: Forward to seeing what they do, I mean more time,
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  Speaker 3: and you're going to have certainly a lot of eyeballs
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  Speaker 3: on you what you do in the portal because last
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  Speaker 3: year you didn't hit on well any of them, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: any any player that you brought from somewhere else. And
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  Speaker 3: so it's going to be a very very stressful probably
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: portal season for L s U Baseball. But it could
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  Speaker 3: be very beneficial too if they press the right buttons.
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  Speaker 3: Looking forward to it, Flynn real quick, because you were
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: so dynamic in that segment. Uh, Northwestern State is in
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  Speaker 3: what city? Mm hmm, no, what city spelled Nacotish.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if a lot of people can do
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  Speaker 4: this all right in a T c H I t
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  Speaker 4: O c h e S. Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that's a that's impressive.
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  Speaker 6: Well n A t c h I t O c
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  Speaker 3: the Raizor Kain Studio uh Tayte. We throw our receiver
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  Speaker 3: one tierless on the screen now just for our listeners
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  Speaker 3: that are just tuning back in and for Moose since
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: he wasn't in the room. This is only one receiver
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  Speaker 3: from every team, so like George Pickens would be very
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: high on this list, but Ceedee Lamb takes the Cowboys spot.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: So receiver one across the league.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: We're putting them in tiers, all right, So let's go
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  Speaker 3: ahead and throw it back up there.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: You can full screen it for a little bit there,
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: Tay Tay, Thank you, sir.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: We've added a couple of names since the last time
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: we revisited this. We put Courtland Sutton in the Sea.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: We put the Slim Reaper DeVante Smith in the Bee.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Any other names that we've added since.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Scary Terry.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Scary Terry is in the Bee tier as well. So Moose,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: our tiers a good tier. Our b Tears's got some dogs.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Actually, I mean still there's there's an a receiver that
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I want to move.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Moose. I just feel about our tier list.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: It's good so far. Uh where'd you start?
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Do you have a question? Malik Neighbors? Is he on
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: there somewhere?
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah? No, No, No, that's if he was, then he probably
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: be right next to Nico.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: That's what I was thinking. Uh, okay, I just I
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: didn't see him.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I was looking for the the blue jersey in
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: the great pants.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: You don't want to get from you this one right here?
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: A J. Brown? A J. Brown?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Where do you want to move him, which is interesting
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: when he did put him at one is Stefan.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's not with anyone.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Man the A J.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Brown.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Thanks tough, because I mean, in fact, you almost have
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: to go back to his Titans days.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I mean he just especially down the stretch here at
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: the end of his career in Philly, there wasn't a
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: lot there, not, not really a comment on his ability there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: And he's definitely got the ability of a top wide
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: receiver one in in the NFL. And think he's gonna
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: get that opportunity obviously would right maythorhim the football Now, man,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: that's is that the one you wanted to move Jake?
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: I want you want to move him down? Okay, that's
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: Cosyle I figured.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I say that about his career. Is the end of
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: his career in Philly. He's had four straight we're a
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: one thousand yard season. But nevertheless, we also said that's tour.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: We also said that as of June fourth, twenty twenty six,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: who is the best? Yeah, so you can look back
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: a little bit to give you kind of a parameters
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: on how you think he'll do this year, but we can't.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: We're not judging.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So we're doing this just on like
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: the first few weeks of OTA's basically, you could take
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: like I know, I'm yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: moving him down to the BA tire.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: I yeah, I just I tend to agree.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think if he goes out there and
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: has a you know, fourteen hund yard season or thirteen
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: twelve hundred yard season with the Patriots this year, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: think you can really talk about moving him up because
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: if that's the case, they're probably gonna win a lot
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: of football games too.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: All Right, So y'all, y'all all want I'm moving down?
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: I do, do you, Flynn, I'm I'm for it, Okay,
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: all right, he down.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I kind of like having that the three as the
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: A up there because they're, like, I think, they're in
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: a little different category.
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: We talked about this briefly. I'm good with leaving it
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: the way it is. I know y'all talked about moving
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: somebody from down.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's hard.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm good with the way it is.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: But if y'all want to move somebody down, I'm okay
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: there too. I'm okay with I like it the way
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: it is all right, let's get to it, Moss. Mister Chris,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I think Chris lave is be tier. I think he's
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: closer to than he is.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree, But I think I think B
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: tier is probably the right spot for him right now.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Although I I mean, Flynn, you and I and Taylor
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: we're talking about this in the top our break. I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I think I'm a little higher on him than you maybe,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: but I just don't know if he's done enough yet
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: to be a Tier one. It's a good group, I mean,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I think I think I think B is where he be.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Good list B he is a group that I'd roll
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: out there with.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I was really impressed with him a
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: year ago. Uh in New Orleans.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: There's a lot but nothing around him.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: It's not to say didn't have areas to grow in
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: still as your number one wide receiver. And I think
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: the competition with Jordan Tyson that that brings in is
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: hopefully just going to push him even more to do that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: But that's the right spot for him.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of guys on this list that I
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: think are teetering on C that I think with could
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: easily go to B and after this year, and I think.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: It's oh yeah, Sutton, Yeah, Yeah, I think if B
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: gets back to what he was, is that rookie.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Sure, if someton has.
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: One more good year, man like he's, he's gonna get
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: a little bit more recognition.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: Now wat is gonna take a lot of yards and
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: catch it away from him. Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: And how about one thing that I think Mike created
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: some some good, healthy debate when this gets posted is
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: kind of oh, how they've kind of fallen as DK
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Metcalfe in the sea in the Sea tier now looks
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: the part Jake you kind of mentioned it. It's kind
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: of a one trick pony a little bit now. That
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: trick's really good, really really good trick, but just didn't
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: have the production.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: He was graded as the forty first best receiver last year.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, if you asked me to move up
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: a seed tier receiver to be it's probably not DK
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: metcalf on that list.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Someone was asking about Rome and Donesday. He was forty
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: six a year ago. So he's on the D list
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: as of right now.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: Now. Wandel Robinson is on.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: C Dude, He's been quietly really good.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: He has been.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: There's gonna be some people to push back on that
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: because they're just not familiar with me.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: All right, Okay, so let's kind of take a step
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: back and let's look at the teams that have a
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: really good number two and where we're throwing them right now.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: George Pickens, where's.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: George George's A yeah, George, as far as two's are
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: on this list.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: If he was on this list, George on this list.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: There's no doubt.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: He was third in the NFL receives fourteen hundred yards
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: That is wild to say, Yeah that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: In the NFL, the Dallas Cowboy is Dak Prescott is
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: going to have what two of the top nine receivers.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Yes, maybe who want a playoff game this year? It's like.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Jamison Williams. It was ninth in the NFL in receiving.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: Two's. Yeah, this list, I almost had twelve hundred yards receiving.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: I would put him, I would say, I'd put him be,
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: but be he'll be higher on that beat here, but
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: I'd put him in.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: I think he's safely.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. I'd have him like up there with
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: with Ted McMillan and A. J. Brown and the beat here.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: Any other names you want to Jayleen Wattle.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: Oh, Jalen wattle Pie, just because he's been kind of
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: all over the place in Miami.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Not his fault.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: I think he's gonna be awesome with bo Nicks and Denver,
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: with that intermediate passing game they have.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be great. I may go be
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: for Wattle. I like him be or see though I.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Was kind of I was gonna have him in that
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: same like beat here range as Chris Lave.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Would Michael Pittman be above d here Uh?
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: Would he be in the C.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Last couple of years have been rough?
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: T Higgins, that's a good one. Yeah, T in the
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: C B, he's frank.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Making T Higgins over lad Over wandell Over Wilson.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: If he's in the C, he's very very top of
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the sea.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: If he's in he's right now he's in B.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: So another conversation, just like we have with Dak Prescott
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: having two A receivers. Joe's got an S and a
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: firm B for me.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So pretty much Yes, exciting.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Oh Davantae Adams of where's he going?
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: He led the NFL, He's got to go he's got
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: to go.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: He's gonna go in the stage.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: Fifteen touchdowns.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: I keep forgetting about that until everyone brings it up.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they did touchdown? Did I don't think played
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: all seventeen games a receiver. I agree?
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: I agree.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: I don't know how you can argue against it. Watching
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: run on film last year.
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and think about that, Matt he had all of those.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: We had fourteen touchdowns last year. His fourteen touchdowns last
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: year with Puka Nakua the target monster next to him,
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: hit fourteen touchdowns on sixty catches. Almost a third of
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: his catches went for a touchdown. It's wild because or
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: fourth or fourth of his catches. You got to think
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: about when you get into the red zone. Pokas so physical,
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: I can do so many things in blocking. They have
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: to put two people on him. So you're talking about
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: doubling somebody that's not DeVante Adams in the red zone.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: How fair is that true?
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Good point.
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: I'm feeling pretty confident about this year. I'm feeling confident
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: that DeVante would be in the eighty eight year. So
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: Stafford has an S and an eight tier and No.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: Two A's that very easily one could you can make
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: an argument for the stier.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Is are the Rams going to have maybe the two
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: best defensive linemen to play in the last two decades.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: Due there's there's a chance he might come back. Aaron
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: Donald might come back.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: You know what's crazy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: Nobody shut it down. They've been asked and they've danced
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: around it. Nobody shut it down.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy ist he would only have
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: to play like twenty five snaps again. Yeah, I know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: because they've got Braiden Fisk, Poniford, Kobe Turner already on
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the defensive line now, Aaron Donal Aaron Donald.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: But they wouldn't need five years old.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hey give us twenty five, Yeah, twenty bad out
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: of hell third down place.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: He's in that middle of a normal five year old.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: No, I mean he's not, I understand, but I mean
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: in the conversation at least, conversation for greatest defensive tackle
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: of all times, the conversation for greatest pass rusher of
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: all time.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: And when Donald retired, it wasn't because he had fallen
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: off a cliff like Aaron Donald was playing in the
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: high level.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of I'm good and won Super
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Bowl it's like, I'm good I'm gonna go work out
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: with knives.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Tired of dominating the other best players in the world. World.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna tust something else I'm good at.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: I would just like, I don't know what the odds are.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: I don't even know if you can get odds in
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: June on this, but I would.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I would take a flyer on Byron Young being potentially
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: NFL Deepensive Player.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Of the Year. If you're looking for like a long odds,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: you know, hey, let me turn five dollars.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Into have a lot of one on ones next year.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: He's gonna have.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: And he had twelve sacks of last year. He could
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: have fifteen and a half sixteen and a half sacks
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: So I'll wrap I'll kind of wrap this Alave talk
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: up because we've we've mentioned this in the past. We're
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: talking about his contract extension.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Talking at the end at the end.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Of the season last year, Chris Alave would be one
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: of the best wide receiver twos oh yeah out there. Yeah,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: and that's kind of where his his body tight straft
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson eight overall and that's what that's his style
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: of play to me is more suited to a wide
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: receiver too.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: In a wide receiver one.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: That is why there's so much debate, so much back
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: and forth, so many question marks that people have. Now
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: the stats are number one, Oh for sure, the stats
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: are number one wide receiver.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: I got it. But there's just something. There's something you
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: can't put your finger on it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: As well as we've found out talking this list out
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: with all these different people, you can have those stats
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and be a two a two because you are. There's
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of teams that have two guys that deserve
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to be in that number one conversation.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: All right, I think I think we feel pretty good
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: about the list, all right.
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  Speaker 3: back here live from the Raisincaines Studio. Off the bench,
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  Speaker 6: I said we probably wouldn't talk about it, and I'm
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: not going to. But no, you're not not at all
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  Speaker 6: hearing Coach Saban sitting in front of like politicians and
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: hitting them with the eye. It's pretty good, all right.
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  Speaker 3: He's going over the rosters and the money and how much,
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  Speaker 3: and he's you know, trying to everything fixed. But think
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  Speaker 3: about that, like a room full of politicians guys that
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: you know, powerful guys, a lot of egos. I'm not
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: saying it's a thing, like a bad thing. Like a
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: lot of professions, you have to have an ego. But
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: he is straight up just hitting them with the lecture.
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  Speaker 3: Like the guys are coming out and I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: Been in that room before, Yeah, I've been, I've been
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  Speaker 4: you guys.
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  Speaker 6: He's a little bit more subdued.
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  Speaker 3: You might be a congressman, right, you might be a senator,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you are. You're not exempt from the eyes. No,
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  Speaker 3: you're getting them. You're not the most powerful man in
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  Speaker 3: the room. No, okay, here you are.
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  Speaker 4: It's Nicholas.
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  Speaker 6: Is sabing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not a lot of rooms that he's going
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  Speaker 4: to walk into that he doesn't just dominate with aura.
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  Speaker 3: He is like, as y'all know, he's not a very
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: big human being. He's just not He's not a big fella.
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  Speaker 3: It would be so funny, and I was one doing
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: it too. We'd be in the Lawton room about to
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  Speaker 3: have a team meeting. Everybody'd be like slouched and just
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: like sitting however or whatever. That man walk into the
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: room and the biggest person in the room would just
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  Speaker 3: sit back in a chair and sit straight up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So like Marcus Spears Herman Johnson didn't matter.
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  Speaker 6: Corey Webster.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you ever like been around somebody that just feel
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  Speaker 4: their presence, And it was very intense.
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  Speaker 3: You can almost hear him walking up the little ramp
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  Speaker 3: there to the lot room. Then coaching ator's passing. Now
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: fellas tying to pass the doughnuts down to the end
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  Speaker 3: of the aisle. Coach Savans about to come in, all.
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  Speaker 10: Right, coaching Oh that nasty ass orange juice they gave
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  Speaker 10: us so bad. It was awful, like it's thought even
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: it was water sugar orange, that's what it was. Yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: but then it was like kind of carbonated a little bit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: it's trash, and it wasn't great. It wasn't like a
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: great palate cleanser too, a Krispy Kreme donut.
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  Speaker 6: No, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: And it was also remember that meeting was at five
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  Speaker 3: forty five, so it's like, not only am I having
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  Speaker 3: these donuts with this horrid arrange juice, I'm about to
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  Speaker 3: get my ass chewed at five forty five in the
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  Speaker 3: morning on Monday.
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  Speaker 6: Yep. It's not a great way to start your week.
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  Speaker 6: Not very intense, man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, God, that Monday morning meeting was you'd feel like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I made three or four plays. I'm about to get
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  Speaker 3: like a little at a boy. Right, Nope, those three
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  Speaker 3: or four plays aren't being shown. Here's these six plays
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  Speaker 3: where you sucked. It's usually worse after a win.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Like you'd be feeling good, like you go on the
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  Speaker 3: road and be Florida and oh four and you're like, ah,
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  Speaker 3: you suck.
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  Speaker 6: Here's why.
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  Speaker 4: Like that first off season that I endured, the fourth
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: quarter program in the Winner was the by far the
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  Speaker 4: worst one that was before you got here, because it
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  Speaker 4: was right after national championship and it was like it
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  Speaker 4: was like, all right, uh, y'all didn't win it. They did,
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  Speaker 4: and I need to remind y'all the y all are mine? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like y'all, we need to get y'all back down to earth.
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  Speaker 4: And my god, did he ever there was there was
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  Speaker 4: always in fourth quarter program, always trash cans throughout the
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  Speaker 4: sort for people to throw up him.
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  Speaker 6: There was like fifty of them all around and they
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  Speaker 6: got used. Was that harder? Was that fourth quarter program
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  Speaker 6: harder than that summer? Because that summer else people like
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: that were there talk about that summer too. That was
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: the thirty two one too. That was when Benny wasn't
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  Speaker 6: winning and he started over.
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  Speaker 4: When he started training, I would say it was definitely
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: it was harder because like for the the workout part
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  Speaker 4: was harder because it was outside. Well, it was all indoors.
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  Speaker 4: The fourth quarter program right summer is like outside Now.
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  Speaker 4: That day there was specific days there was that day
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  Speaker 4: there was a double forties test workout day we had
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  Speaker 4: to do two forties, which was like, nobody tells you
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  Speaker 4: when you're a freshman, don't run these fast. Yeah, fur
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  Speaker 4: base wondering like you run a forty at the beginning
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  Speaker 4: of the summer to see what your speed is. And
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  Speaker 4: everyone's like, all right, I'm gonna run trying, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: show these coaches how fast I am gonna run a
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  Speaker 4: four to five. Well, what you don't know is like
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  Speaker 4: when you do a thing on Thursdays called the forties
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  Speaker 4: test where you got to run ten forty yard sprints
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  Speaker 4: with ten seconds rest in between, and every time there's
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  Speaker 4: a percentage of your your the time that you did
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: at the end. So if you ran a four or five,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: like your first one's got to be like a four
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: four five. Not on your tenth one, it can be
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  Speaker 4: like a four to two, but it better not be
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  Speaker 4: that far off or you've failed to work out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you run really go on that first day,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: your average has to be very similar to that time
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  Speaker 3: for all time.
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  Speaker 4: All the vets were like, yeah, we'll time at the
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: beginning of the summer, I'm gonna run a four to
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  Speaker 4: nine run five.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody tells you that when you're young and dumb, though, yeah, thanks,
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  Speaker 3: you guys appreciate that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Not only real quick last story would take a break
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  Speaker 3: as the bench coming up. Not only did he start
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  Speaker 3: off you know that one ten test because Benning wasn't
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  Speaker 3: winning the races. There was a training camp practice like
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  Speaker 3: old too, a day's old to a day, not this
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  Speaker 3: new to to day stuff. Old two days where we
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  Speaker 3: we would have you know, hydration, and we have fruit
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  Speaker 3: and we were on period like seven eight.
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  Speaker 6: And so we've been in practice and now we we.
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  Speaker 3: Took a little too long eating some fruit under this
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  Speaker 3: tent during training camp and he was kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, hurry up on the field and like, you know, guys,
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  Speaker 3: he said, all right, that's it started over. We're thinking
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  Speaker 3: start the period over that we just came from. Obviously
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  Speaker 3: you know, okay got this one. So he was like, inside, run.
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  Speaker 4: The whole effing thing back out the gates.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, we had to go back out the gates, run in,
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  Speaker 3: do our stretching lines, stretch, do the whole eight nine
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  Speaker 6: Right, welcome back again, OTB. We'll ask the bench.
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  Speaker 4: Did anyone ever talk back to Saban?
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember a lot, not like now. Saban always
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  Speaker 4: had like his handful of guys that were his guys
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  Speaker 4: that they could at least speak speak to him, speak
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  Speaker 4: to him.
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  Speaker 6: I have conversations with him. I couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Marcus Spears actually stopped him in a
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  Speaker 4: team meeting when he was asking one of our teammates
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  Speaker 4: to do something.
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  Speaker 6: You can't even tell you. I can't, you can't tell
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  Speaker 6: the story.
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  Speaker 4: I think spears, Spears and Seaweb, Corey Webster that was
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  Speaker 4: that's probably this is this is this is going too far?
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  Speaker 6: I asked the bench. Matt WA's Jake's middle name.
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  Speaker 4: I know this.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm not even stalling for time right now. That's
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  Speaker 3: Look at you shut out Wikipedia Hashak asked the bench
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  Speaker 3: who was the one player that Saban was always ragging on.
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  Speaker 6: There's always one Joe with I used to get bad
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: and I never understood because.
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  Speaker 3: Worked in bought Off and just for some reason, coach
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  Speaker 3: Saban was always riding Joe that I never understood it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of things some of the things
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: were like emotional, but a lot of it was controlled emotion.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: A lot of things were calculated too, I do know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: like learning from I think Maroochie told me at one
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: point after Saban had left, it was like Saban was
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: always very calculated on who he went after. Like they're
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: in fourth quarter program. He's like, I'm gonna go I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna go after this person today I'm gonna be relentless
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  Speaker 4: on him.
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  Speaker 6: It's just people that thought needed it. It was right.
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