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Hank Sheinkopf | Veteran Political Consultant Speaks on the Real Relationship Between Mayor Mamdani and NYPD Commissioner Tisch · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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Speaker 1: So I saw Hank Sancor for the first time ever
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Speaker 1: last week at Russo's on the Bay, and it was
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Speaker 1: a big deal for me. You know, I say a
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Speaker 1: lot of nice things about my guests. I know I do,
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Speaker 1: but this guy's really smart, really special, great political mind
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Speaker 1: here in New York. And he was such a gentleman
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Speaker 1: last week when I met him. He actually seemed, Lewis,
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Speaker 1: happy to meet me. Well, why, what is that?
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Speaker 2: Is that shocking?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes people are phony, you know, because I'm a
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Speaker 1: big deal. They act like they don't really care. He was...
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Speaker 1: He was so sweet and nice. I'm like, damn, Hank Sheinkopf.
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Speaker 1: It's a big deal for me. And here he is
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Speaker 1: back on Sid and Friends in the morning, my friend Hank. Hank,
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Speaker 1: good morning, pal. How are you?
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Sid. I'm doing great. It was a pleasure
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Speaker 2: to see you last week. It was wonderful.
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Speaker 1: It was for me, too. You're such a sweet guy.
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Speaker 1: You really are a terrific guy, Hank. So when the mayor,
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Speaker 1: and you know I hate his guts. I don't beat
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Speaker 1: around the bush. I don't try to be nice. I'm
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Speaker 1: over the top. Hate him. So when he comes out
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Speaker 1: and he talks about him holding on to Jessica Tisch, well,
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Speaker 1: it makes sense on two fronts. A, the crime numbers
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Speaker 1: are down and he can boast about that. And B,
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Speaker 1: of course, she's Jewish. She's got enough problems in anti-Semitism.
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Speaker 1: But am I supposed to believe that he likes her?
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Speaker 1: Does the mayor actually like her, Hank?
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Speaker 2: He doesn't, well, Sid, I think you're raising an important point.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to like her. He has to tolerate
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Speaker 2: her because he needs her. He can get away with
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Speaker 2: anything he wants so long as he's got her. Crime
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Speaker 2: starts to go up on top of the anti-Catholicism and
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Speaker 2: the anti-Semitism and the anti-this and the anti-that and the
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Speaker 2: crazy woman uptown, the Congresswoman-elect soon, who thinks it's okay
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Speaker 2: to complain about cops all day long and maybe even
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Speaker 2: hurt them.
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Speaker 1: That's Chevalier, right?
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Speaker 2: As long as you have all that going on, he
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Speaker 2: really needs to keep her in place. Now, my question is,
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Speaker 2: why would Jessica Tisch stay? If I were her, I
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Speaker 2: would never have tolerated this for 20 seconds or less.
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Speaker 2: She's extraordinarily competent, capable, highly credentialed. And frankly, there's a
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Speaker 2: place for her when the city goes belly up, which
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Speaker 2: it will, coming pretty soon. The deficit is a serious problem.
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Speaker 2: The governor won't have enough cash to really bail the
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Speaker 2: city out. This guy is spending money like he has
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Speaker 2: a printing press in the basement, which he doesn't have.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's a problem. I would have wanted to
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Speaker 2: stay if I were her and become head. Ask the
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Speaker 2: governor to make me head of a financial control board
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Speaker 2: operation to force the city back into solvency. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting.
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Speaker 2: She didn't do that.
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Speaker 1: No, she didn't. And it's interesting because I got a
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Speaker 1: great relationship with Jessica Tisch. I mean, great to the
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Speaker 1: point when I had dinner with her. Months and months ago,
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Speaker 1: we took a picture together. It went viral. And the
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Speaker 1: Mondani administration went nuts on her and me for actually
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Speaker 1: having dinner together. So when she first was considering staying,
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Speaker 1: and I'm honored, she met me here at the station,
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Speaker 1: at the diner around the corner, the New York Luncheonette.
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Speaker 1: Before she talked to anybody else, she said at the
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Speaker 1: time all she spoke to was her mother, who was
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Speaker 1: a lovely lady, and her children. And we walked around
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Speaker 1: the block for about, oh, I don't know, about 30 minutes, Hank, two-story.
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Speaker 1: And I said to her, what are you doing? Just,
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Speaker 1: you know, when he takes over, get out of here.
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Speaker 1: And she said, Sid, everybody says that to me, but
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Speaker 1: I really care about New Yorkers. I'm really worried about
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen specifically to Jewish New Yorkers. I
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Speaker 1: like my job, and I think I'm going to stay,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to respect that. And by the
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Speaker 1: time we were done walking, I said, not only do
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Speaker 1: I respect that, but to a certain extent, you're my hero.
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Speaker 1: And that's how it goes. She cares about the people
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Speaker 1: in this city. She's worried about protecting everybody, not just
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Speaker 1: Jewish people, but specifically Jewish people. And she takes that
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Speaker 1: job very, very seriously. I don't think she likes them.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I bet she doesn't. But she does love
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Speaker 1: the people of New York.
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Speaker 2: She is. She is. That's all true, I'm sure. She's
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Speaker 2: a 44-year-old woman who's highly credentialed, educated, and capable. What
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Speaker 2: do you do after you become the police commissioner? Mayor.
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Speaker 2: What's the next move? That's part of the thinking. And
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Speaker 2: we need somebody, frankly, as New Yorkers, who has the
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Speaker 2: capacity to run that department with all its issues. And
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Speaker 2: the issues surrounding it have more to do with tradition
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Speaker 2: and the inside, probably, in some cases, than day-to-day problems.
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Speaker 2: Because it's a hierarchical place. It has a whole culture
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Speaker 2: to it that's different than anything else, as most organizations do.
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Speaker 2: But this organization, if it fails... If it ceases to
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Speaker 2: do its job appropriately, we will not be able to
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Speaker 2: walk around. As for the Jewish New Yorker issue, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Jews are in trouble in this city. They're in trouble
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Speaker 2: in this country. This is going to come to an end.
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Speaker 2: If El-Sayed wins in Michigan, we're in even more serious
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Speaker 2: trouble because the notion of pluralism will start to dissipate.
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 2: Because guys like him do not believe in pluralism. They
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Speaker 2: don't believe in tolerance. They don't believe in the American
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Speaker 2: way as we know it. But they do believe in
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Speaker 2: a uniformity of opinion that is both dangerous and anti-American
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Speaker 2: by definition. That is the thing we're facing. Should he win,
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Speaker 2: you're going to see, I think, an exodus from New York.
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Speaker 2: Particularly why? Because the people that put up the money
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Speaker 2: to fight people like that in campaigns are not going
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Speaker 2: to do it anymore. They just got whacked for significant
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Speaker 2: money in the Cuomo nonsense, the independent expenditures there. They
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Speaker 2: put up money to stop El-Sayed. They lose here. They
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Speaker 2: lose in that one. It's going to be hard to
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Speaker 2: find them again. Yep. They'll be gone.
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Speaker 1: I agree, 100%.
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Speaker 2: They'll get smacked around.
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Speaker 1: Yep, I agree. I want to get to this horse
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Speaker 1: coward story. I know a horse died of a heart
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Speaker 1: attack last summer. By the way, lots of humans die
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Speaker 1: from heart attacks every day, okay? And I know there
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Speaker 1: was one tourist who was killed. I got to tell you, Hank,
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Speaker 1: we're having an honest conversation. There are more people that
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Speaker 1: get injured and killed from the scooters and the bicycles.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's dangerous. I am scared to death. I'm
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Speaker 1: a big, tough guy. You met me, okay? I'm scared
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Speaker 1: to death to walk across the street. I really am.
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Speaker 1: But that's okay, right? Scooters and bicycles, but the horses.
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Speaker 1: Give me a break, okay? No one has proven to
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Speaker 1: me yet these horses are treated badly. Nobody. And we
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Speaker 1: employ a whole bunch of immigrants, a whole bunch. We're
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Speaker 1: about to wipe them all out. So what do you
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Speaker 1: think is the real motivation behind Mamdani and Menon destroying
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Speaker 1: this traditional business?
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Speaker 2: Well, you have a history of one particular group of
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Speaker 2: people in my class led by people with tremendous amounts
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Speaker 2: of money who are animal rights people. Who made this
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Speaker 2: their life's work?
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Speaker 1: Well, wait a second. But the animal rights people, they
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Speaker 1: have not been able to prove to me. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you want to shut down Aqueduct? You want to shut
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Speaker 1: down Belmont? There's no proof that these horses are being
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Speaker 1: treated badly every day. You know what? If you want
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Speaker 1: to tweak it, Hank, and go, look, if the temperature
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Speaker 1: goes above 90 degrees, let's keep the horses in the stable.
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Speaker 1: That's fine. Tweak it. But where's the proof that these
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Speaker 1: horses are being mistreated all the time?
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Speaker 2: You sound like John Samuelson of the Transport Workers Union,
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Speaker 2: who's a good guy.
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Speaker 1: I like John.
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Speaker 2: He's a very good man, and he works hard for
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Speaker 2: his people and should be respected for the work he does.
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Speaker 2: Whose members have now been impacted significantly. I mean, the
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Speaker 2: tradition in New York of those carriages is another way
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Speaker 2: of saying goodbye. It's kind of poetically tragic in a way.
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Speaker 2: You have the Plaza Hotel closing for four years. Right
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Speaker 2: on the park, right? And you have the horses going
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Speaker 2: away at the same time. It tells you that New
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Speaker 2: York is in tremendous transition and that the things we
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Speaker 2: think are most important are going to be disappearing.
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Speaker 1: That's my issue. You just nailed it. Tradition. He wants
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Speaker 1: to wipe out all of tradition. It's not about the horses, okay?
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Speaker 1: Because horses aren't dying every day, okay? This is about
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Speaker 1: the mayor wiping out, wiping out. And then you get
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Speaker 1: Julie Menon, who's got no spine half the time. No
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Speaker 1: disrespect to her. The mayor wiping out tradition. That's my fear.
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Speaker 2: Well, the tradition as we know it is in New
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Speaker 2: York where people of all kinds can somehow meld together.
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Speaker 2: The great melting point is the subway. It's unlike Los
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Speaker 2: Angeles where your subway is the car you have to drive, right?
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Speaker 2: That's right. The place where New Yorkers meet in great
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Speaker 2: numbers is on that subway system and the buses and
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Speaker 2: the rest of it and any disruption. That way of
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Speaker 2: life is tantamount to destroying New York. If you take
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Speaker 2: our traditions away of where people meet and how they meet,
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Speaker 2: no matter the problems, that somehow we're not confined to spaces.
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Speaker 2: We're not confined to groups. We do our best to
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Speaker 2: get along. What this guy is talking about is that
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Speaker 2: certain groups don't belong. That if you stand there and
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Speaker 2: raise your middle finger up to the statue of Columbus,
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Speaker 2: you're telling Catholics that they can drop dead. If you
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Speaker 2: say on October 7th that, yeah, it's terrible about those
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Speaker 2: dead Jews, but look at the lies about the number
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Speaker 2: of people who were murdered, who had died. I'm on
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Speaker 2: the other side of the argument, right, who are mostly combatants,
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Speaker 2: kinds of people who hide hostages in schools, hide weapons
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Speaker 2: in hospitals, and who believe light um that's who we're
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Speaker 2: dealing with and and we should get prepared for that
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Speaker 2: and what that means and again if elsa had wins
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Speaker 2: that that's on a race in michigan he will be
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Speaker 2: entirely empowered and that will be tragic for us.
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Speaker 1: And he is winning right now it's a very close
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Speaker 1: race with mike rogers in michigan but he is winning
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Speaker 1: right now so last night i had the opportunity to
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Speaker 1: go to the nick game with bruce blakeman and his
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Speaker 1: lovely son arlen james dolan put on a big fundraiser
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Speaker 1: and Dolan has been there for Bruce Blakeman from day one.
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Speaker 1: I really had no idea how close those guys were.
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Speaker 1: I saw it last night. They're very, very, very, very close.
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Speaker 1: And it was a wonderful evening. It really was. And
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Speaker 1: this is fresh off what I thought was a beating.
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Speaker 1: He put on Kathy Hochul. Two things at play here,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, Hank Sheinkopf. One was Bruce Wakeman was
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Speaker 1: very good. He was prepared. He knew what he was
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Speaker 1: talking about. But the other side was she was really bad.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking the only worst performance I saw.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Biden against Trump, or not maybe, certainly Biden against Trump.
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Speaker 1: She was even worse than Letitia James against Saritha last week.
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Speaker 1: So you put those two things together, it was a
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Speaker 1: colossal failure for Kathy Hochul. The question to you, Hank,
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Speaker 1: is does it matter?
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Speaker 2: It does matter. The problem in the Blakeman campaign probably
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Speaker 2: is the lack of money to go out and touch
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Speaker 2: people outer borough, New York City Catholics and outer borough
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Speaker 2: and New York City Jews and heard directly, like to
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Speaker 2: hit doors and do the things that the Mondavi campaign did,
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Speaker 2: for example, in 2025. If he has the money to
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Speaker 2: touch those doors and touch those people, he has a
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Speaker 2: shot to win.
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 2: New Yorkers will absolutely do the opposite of what's expected
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Speaker 2: of them under certain cases. The city is in trouble.
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Speaker 2: We know that financially and administratively. We also know that
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Speaker 2: Kathy Hochul's great strengths, she has some strengths with respect
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Speaker 2: to her, is that she's an extraordinary fundraiser and she's
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Speaker 2: an amazing campaigner. She knows how to do these things.
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Speaker 2: But her performance with Blakeman on the stage was not
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Speaker 2: very good. Blakeman captured the affordability argument, which is what's
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Speaker 2: driving a good deal of our politics today. And Kathy
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Speaker 2: Hochul could just say Trump. At some point, Trump doesn't work,
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Speaker 2: but That's what she did.
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Speaker 1: Do you know how many times she said Trump? You
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Speaker 1: want the exact amount of times? This is unreal. We
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Speaker 1: all knew she would say Trump to your point, Hank, okay?
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Speaker 1: We all knew it. The day before I spoke to
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Speaker 1: Bob Holden on this show, I spoke to George Pataki.
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Speaker 1: We said she's going to go to Trump. Do you
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Speaker 1: realize she said the name President Trump? This is unreal.
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Speaker 1: 41 times.
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Speaker 2: 41, Hank! But it tells you, Sid, about the fact
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Speaker 2: that New Yorkers are not holding our elected officials... We're
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Speaker 2: just not holding them accountable for their behavior. You know,
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Speaker 2: we have a return rate on incumbents that is absolutely outrageous.
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Speaker 2: And having a wipeout of the system would be a
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Speaker 2: very good thing. We've created a permanent, what I call
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Speaker 2: the political-industrial complex. A permanent class of elected officials... If
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Speaker 2: you look at the city council, for example, people have staffs.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you must be kidding me. When I was
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Speaker 2: a young man in the political business, I did those
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Speaker 2: kinds of campaigns. We spent a top of $ 15, 000 with
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Speaker 2: a lot of money. The council people didn't have staffs,
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Speaker 2: and nobody ran around calling them honorable council members. They
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Speaker 2: called them by their first names. They went to work.
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Speaker 2: Now we call them all kinds of, you know, chairman
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Speaker 2: and this and that, and boom-ba-da-boom, and they have staffs,
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Speaker 2: and they have people, and they have press secretaries and
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Speaker 2: chiefs and stuff. Come on. These bureaucracies we've created that
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Speaker 2: are part of a political industry allow incumbents to hide
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Speaker 2: from the things they don't do and to take credit
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Speaker 2: for the things they also don't do. We don't hold
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Speaker 2: them to an account. What Bruce Flakeman tried to do
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Speaker 2: the other night and was successful was to hold her
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Speaker 2: to an accounting on affordability. And that's why he won
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Speaker 2: that argument. And that's why he did so well, because
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Speaker 2: that's what people care about. So we have a political
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Speaker 2: class that talks about things that no one cares about.
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Speaker 2: And somehow gets away with it all day long because
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Speaker 2: people are just completely turned off. So what I think
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Speaker 2: Blakeman did in his, with great skills to turn people
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Speaker 2: on to the thing that they really care about. And
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Speaker 2: that was important.
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Speaker 1: Let's wrap this up where we started. We started talking
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Speaker 1: about Zoe's amazing job, Hank, Jessica Tisch. So I had
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Speaker 1: Vincent Vallelong on this show yesterday. Dear, dear friend of mine.
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Speaker 1: He happens to be the sergeant's president for that union.
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Speaker 1: They're all good friends of mine. Scott Monroe with the detectives,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Hendry and Pat Lynch with the PBA. And they
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Speaker 1: hate this guy. They hate this mayor. And Vinny was
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Speaker 1: going on and on yesterday about how he's destroying the city,
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Speaker 1: you know. Comes out when Oscar Belgal, who's a gang-banging,
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Speaker 1: drug-dealing lowlife, he's a lowlife. So what does the mayor do?
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Speaker 1: Caught up in his criticism of ICE. That's all he
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Speaker 1: wants to do is talk bad about ICE, okay? You
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Speaker 1: can count on two hands, Hank. Two hands. The Rene Goods,
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Speaker 1: the Alex Pretties, this clown who survived. And I can
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Speaker 1: give you thousands and thousands and thousands of murderers, drug dealers, rapists,
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Speaker 1: pedophiles who've gotten out of this country. The numbers aren't
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Speaker 1: even close. Not even close. But they go on and
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Speaker 1: on about ICE. And in his argument about ICE... He
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Speaker 1: had to nerve this mayor, this prick, to call the
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Speaker 1: president and call Mark Wayne Mullen and tell them he
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Speaker 1: wants Oscar Belgal with a rap sheet as long as
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Speaker 1: a menu at your favorite restaurant and some violent crimes
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Speaker 1: back on the streets. And Vinny's saying, come on, man.
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Speaker 1: We're out every day trying to keep people safe when
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Speaker 1: the mayor is actually campaigning to put criminals back on
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Speaker 1: the streets. How are we ever going to be safe?
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Speaker 2: You know, Sid, it is. it's a very simple, simple
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Speaker 2: way to think about this, really. And it is worth
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Speaker 2: getting upset about. Vinny Dalalong is a very good man,
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Speaker 2: as is Scott Monroe, as is Pat Hendry, as is
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Speaker 2: Chris Monahan, the head of the Captains of Diamond Association,
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Speaker 2: as are Louis Turco and Dennis Gannon, the two tenants.
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Speaker 1: You know them all.
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Speaker 2: The day you see a politician run into a building
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Speaker 2: where shots are fired, Or with this fire, with the
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Speaker 2: Halligan tool, is the day the world will be turned
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Speaker 2: upside down. Because a cop or firefighter goes into situations
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Speaker 2: that are just unthinkable and thinks little about their own safety.
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Speaker 2: Those are people who we will not see their like again.
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Speaker 2: And with this mayor, we may lose them. That you
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Speaker 2: over-regulate their ability, you over-regulate them, and you make it
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Speaker 2: less likely that they will take the risks required to
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Speaker 2: keep a society sane and stable. And that is what
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Speaker 2: we're going to go through. And that is both dangerous
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Speaker 2: and destructive over time. And a very serious, very, very
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Speaker 2: serious moment we're facing.
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Speaker 1: So on the way out here, grandchildren, relatives, even you, Hank,
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Speaker 1: are you... You're a tough guy. I know you're a
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Speaker 1: tough guy. All the cops love you. You know every
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Speaker 1: single union president, and I saw you're a big deal
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Speaker 1: at Russo's last week. But are you nervous? Are you
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Speaker 1: nervous moving forward for New Yorkers?
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Speaker 2: Look, I never think of myself as a big deal
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Speaker 2: or anything else. I've had a wonderful, wonderful life and career.
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Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate. I have a kid who started out
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Speaker 2: with absolutely nothing, no family, and somehow I've risen to
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Speaker 2: wherever people think I have. So I'm a very fortunate man.
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Speaker 2: But am I afraid? I'm concerned. I'm a tough guy,
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Speaker 2: I guess. I'm concerned for my children and their children.
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Speaker 2: I wanted them to grow up in the city, and
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Speaker 2: they did, my children. I wanted them to take that
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Speaker 2: which is best, which is, you know, Jack Newfield, may
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Speaker 2: he rest in peace, used to coin the term New
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Speaker 2: York nationalist. I'm a New York nationalist. I've worked all
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Speaker 2: over the world, all over the United States, and for
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Speaker 2: heads of state and others, and And I've always come home.
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Speaker 2: I could have lived anywhere or been anyplace else. I
17:39
Speaker 2: came home because in my mind, I see a cop,
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Speaker 2: I see a firefighter, I see an old gin mill
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Speaker 2: where I used to get drunk when I was a kid.
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Speaker 2: I see different kinds of people getting together in places
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Speaker 2: that the rest of the country would never understand. I
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Speaker 2: see a place where anything is possible and that the
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Speaker 2: communalism that we once shared being ripped apart. That's what
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Speaker 2: I'm afraid of, because the politician now running the city,
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Speaker 2: the mayor particularly, does not believe in that. He believes
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Speaker 2: in the destruction of a particular nation that existed long
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Speaker 2: before all the rest of the nations in that part
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Speaker 2: of the world existed. And when you talk about destroying
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Speaker 2: that particular nation, Israel, you talk about an entire culture...
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Speaker 2: That created the very ideas that created the Constitution and
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Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence, very Western ideas like protecting women's rights.
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Speaker 2: That's in the Jewish wedding ceremony, and the document is
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Speaker 2: called the Petubah, the marriage license. The prohibition against self-incrimination
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Speaker 2: comes out of the Talmud.
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Speaker 3: The....
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Speaker 2: The notion of incorruptible courts run by, in Hebrew, it
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Speaker 2: means judges and marshals, not police, marshals to make sure
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Speaker 2: there is order in our courts, not chaos, that everyone
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Speaker 2: has an opportunity to justice, justice under the law. And
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Speaker 2: the police officers you're talking about are the people that
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Speaker 2: guarantee that. If they are undermined and if they are
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Speaker 2: castrated and unable to do their jobs, We will not
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Speaker 2: have the kind of New York that we deserve and
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Speaker 2: we won't have the kind of country we deserve. And yeah,
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Speaker 2: you need restrictions and you need some kind of controls
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Speaker 2: on power. And that's the great thing about democracy. You
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Speaker 2: have that battle all the time between the power and
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Speaker 2: the powerful. But show me a politician that'll run into
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Speaker 2: that building when there are shots fired. You show me
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Speaker 2: that guy and I'll show you that Mondami's right. But
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Speaker 2: he's not. Because there is no guy but a cop
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Speaker 2: that'll do that. And that's the difference.
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Speaker 1: Well, I will correct you on one thing you just said,
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Speaker 1: because that was brilliant what you just did. You are
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Speaker 1: a very big deal. Ha ha ha! And this was
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Speaker 1: another amazing appearance, man. I love having you on this show.
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Speaker 1: You're a sweet man and a brilliant man. And thank
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Speaker 1: you for hopping on, Hank. And let's do it again very,
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Speaker 1: very soon. Have a great weekend. You're great. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much.
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Speaker 2: All the best to you. And thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for having me on.
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Speaker 1: You too. You're terrific. Come on. It's my honor. Hank
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Speaker 1: Sankoff right there. That's one of the smartest people and
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Speaker 1: most loyal New Yorkers you'll ever meet. What a wonderful guy.
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