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Doug Marrone Show: January 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. It's interceptate like
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  Speaker 1: Peterson's got He's on the run to the outside, touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Peterson. This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug
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  Speaker 1: Moron Show. Former Jaguar Jeff Logerman and J. P. Shadrick
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  Speaker 1: discussed the latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The
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  Speaker 1: Doug Moron Show starts right now. Welcome in final Doug
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  Speaker 1: Moron Show of this season. The season ended about a
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  Speaker 1: month ago, but here we are, and this is it
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  Speaker 1: one more hour ago. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagoman And
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  Speaker 1: where's Doug. I don't know. I mean so I'm a
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  Speaker 1: mobile obviously the Senior Bowl that he was there, Doug
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  Speaker 1: Moron Show, I mean, Doug, Yeah, he'll be that. He'll
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  Speaker 1: be around at some point. I'm sure I've been following
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  Speaker 1: all the moves that Doug has been making as far
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  Speaker 1: as through Jack Jaguars dot Com. He's been in all
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  Speaker 1: the different All Star games and working on interviews and
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  Speaker 1: all those kind of things. But i mean, look, i
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  Speaker 1: mean we're right across the hall, you know, come on, Doug.
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  Speaker 1: He'sven a year this week. That's okay, though, it's that
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  Speaker 1: time of year. They'll they'll get back at it at
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  Speaker 1: full go. He's got a few more important things to
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  Speaker 1: tend to things going on. Yes, indeed, I planted to
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  Speaker 1: get to on this program, we'll hear from Roger Goodell,
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  Speaker 1: NFL commissioner, who had his annual Super Bowl press conference yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and get the latest on the collective Bargaining agreement discussions,
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  Speaker 1: which that's the big topic. That is very big topic
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  Speaker 1: right now. We'll hear from him. Coming up, we'll also
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  Speaker 1: here from Peter King once again, the um long time
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  Speaker 1: NFL writer for Sports Illustrator for so many years and
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  Speaker 1: a selector in the in the selection committee for the
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  Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. The vote and he might
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  Speaker 1: have more sway than maybe maybe any other voter. You know, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: Peter is uh. First of all, he's very well connected.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you had an opportunity to to
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  Speaker 1: read his piece that he did where he spent time
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  Speaker 1: with Andy Reid in the Super Bowl preparation. He did
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  Speaker 1: a tremendous job. His Money Morning Quarterback article is uh.
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the best reads that there is
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  Speaker 1: in all of sport and UH and and Peter can
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  Speaker 1: get access like that. So Peter holds a lot of
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  Speaker 1: sway in that in that Hall of Fame room, which
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  Speaker 1: he does have a vote. I do wish that because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know what the makeup of
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  Speaker 1: the voters are and uh and I think that would
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  Speaker 1: be something that would be good for us to talk
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  Speaker 1: about here, because I mean, those are the people that
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  Speaker 1: are making the decision with the candidates, the finalists that
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  Speaker 1: are up for the Hall of Fame. There what is
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  Speaker 1: there forty voters? Forty eight people in the committee and
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  Speaker 1: and there's different people from sports writers to TV personalities, etcetera.
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  Speaker 1: I do wish because when they when they put together
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  Speaker 1: this special class for this year, for what they said
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  Speaker 1: was to kind of make up for some of the
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  Speaker 1: lost I guess you could say people that should have
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  Speaker 1: been put in already. And Bill Belichick was on that committee.
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  Speaker 1: Why are there not more people like a Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: or like players that played the game that have a vote.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a conversation that has started to bubble
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit more. And Peter King today on
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  Speaker 1: on the Live show on Jaguar Social Media talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about Hey, you know, maybe in time there's
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  Speaker 1: a change more towards that in the selection process, and
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  Speaker 1: that would be okay, you know, who knows, but right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to come off as you know,
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  Speaker 1: get off my lawn type of guy, because that's that's
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  Speaker 1: not where I'm going with this. I just I just
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  Speaker 1: think that look, if if you're if you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: to be subjective as best you can and to get
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  Speaker 1: to get opinion. And I get that in one person
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  Speaker 1: I think taught me very well back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: and it was Vick Cashman, who was the senior writer
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  Speaker 1: of Jaguars dot Com back in the day, and he
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  Speaker 1: explained something to me and it didn't really it didn't
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  Speaker 1: really ring clear to me until he explained it, and
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  Speaker 1: that this is the Hall of Fame. It's not the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of the greatest players ever. It's not the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of the great players, it's not the Hall of the
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  Speaker 1: very good players. It's the Hall of Fame. And he said,
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  Speaker 1: you have to understand what that means and how that
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  Speaker 1: affects different people. And I never really looked at it
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  Speaker 1: from that perspective because there might be a guy who
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  Speaker 1: gets in that has less Pro Bowls, less All Pro years,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was less of a player but was more
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  Speaker 1: famous than another player. And uh, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's necessarily the way it should be, but now I
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  Speaker 1: kind of at least from Vic him offering that perspective me,
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  Speaker 1: it gave me a little bit better understanding of how
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  Speaker 1: people get in and how they get voted in and such.
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  Speaker 1: But I still believe that it would be nice to have.
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  Speaker 1: Look if if if there's a vote on defensive lineman,
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  Speaker 1: then why wouldn't you want and Anthony Munos, Tony Basselli
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  Speaker 1: or a John Ogden who played against those guys that
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  Speaker 1: are candidates, that can say, look, I played against that guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's unbelievable, you know. Uh. And to have that kind
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  Speaker 1: of input, like the the Special Committee, the Special class um,
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  Speaker 1: like they had that decision done for them. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying you come, you make a complete different voting class.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, but to add
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  Speaker 1: maybe to that to that list of Hall of Fame voters.
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  Speaker 1: So here's how the Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection
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  Speaker 1: Committee set up. Right now, each NFL franchise has a
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  Speaker 1: representative from their media coverage in Canton are in the
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  Speaker 1: committee UM. Sam Cavaris is the Jacksonville representative from formerly
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  Speaker 1: from Channel four now for the Florida Times Union and
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  Speaker 1: sam sports line dot com. There are fifteen at large
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  Speaker 1: places as well, including Vito Stellino, who has a long
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  Speaker 1: time Jacksonville roots and he's in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: And then he was he was a long time writer
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  Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Pittsburgh and four that yes, so
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and then in that in those at large places,
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  Speaker 1: they've recently added two former players that are Hall of
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  Speaker 1: famers to those spots, James lofton CBS Sports and Dan
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  Speaker 1: Fouts of CBS. So those two guys, at least in
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, have been in the room.
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  Speaker 1: There's also a Pro Football Writers Association representative that's Mary
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  Speaker 1: kay Cabot from Cleveland. UM. So that's how it set up.
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  Speaker 1: Forty eight voters and uh they pare it down from
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  Speaker 1: fifteen down to ten and then they make the final
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  Speaker 1: vote after that. So it's a long morning and day
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  Speaker 1: of work and then early afternoon they'll have the final
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  Speaker 1: votes on Saturday, Saturday, and uh what time ballpark, Well
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  Speaker 1: it will be it will be announced until the NFL
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  Speaker 1: Honors TV show that night, so probably eight o'clock at
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  Speaker 1: night something like that. You don't think it will be
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  Speaker 1: leaked out prior to that, possibly, but I would I
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  Speaker 1: would doubt that be interesting. Way I understand it, it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to look, I can tell you this, Besellly better
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  Speaker 1: tell me if he's Internet, I better get that text
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  Speaker 1: long before eight o'clock. I love it, and then I'll
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  Speaker 1: tweet it out with my five followers. Yeah, because you're
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  Speaker 1: always on Twitter, I'm always you know. Yeah, eight o'clock
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  Speaker 1: Eastern on Fox the NFL Honors show, um and apparently
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  Speaker 1: will be taped earlier in the day, So that show
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  Speaker 1: will be taped earlier in the day. So are they'll
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  Speaker 1: hold it at some point? I'm sure something will get up.
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  Speaker 1: Let's in today's day and age you'll get out. He's
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  Speaker 1: been so close. Let's hope this is a year nice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean, I mean last
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  Speaker 1: year he was he made the ten right allegedly the
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  Speaker 1: last certainly last year, if not both the last two
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  Speaker 1: years he's been the odd guy out, like the sixth guy.
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  Speaker 1: So that's I don't know how much closer you can
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  Speaker 1: get than that. Well, I don't know, but he's he's
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  Speaker 1: a he's got a lot of a lot of sway,
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  Speaker 1: I think, And and look at the legitimate he's a
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  Speaker 1: great player, you know. And if you look at the
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman, and I was telling you this earlier, there's
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  Speaker 1: three offensive linemen in this class or that are among
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  Speaker 1: the finalists. You got Alan Fannica, Steve Hutchinson and Tony
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  Speaker 1: and uh and I think all for a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: perspective on on all three of them, from playing against him,
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  Speaker 1: to practicing against him, to watching him on film for
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  Speaker 1: many years, and I think Alan Alan Fannica benefits at
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  Speaker 1: it by the worst. There's a list on the finalist page,
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  Speaker 1: and guess who built it and left off Tony. But
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  Speaker 1: that's okay, we get that he's a finalist. I think
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  Speaker 1: we've covered. I think that's understood a time or two.
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  Speaker 1: But with those three offensive lineman, I think I think
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  Speaker 1: Alan Fanica was a very good player, and he benefited
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  Speaker 1: for playing for a very successful Pittsburgh Steelers franchise that
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  Speaker 1: is one of the more popular franchises that there is
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And uh And I think
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  Speaker 1: to some extent, players do benefit for playing for an
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  Speaker 1: organization like the Pittsburgh Steelers or other great organizations that
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  Speaker 1: are in the National Football Leagues, etcetera. If Alan Fanica
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  Speaker 1: goes in before Tony, I would be very disappointed because
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  Speaker 1: I think Alan Fanica very good, very good player, very
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  Speaker 1: good player. But I don't know if Fannika was the
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  Speaker 1: best at his position when he played. If Steve Hutchinson
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  Speaker 1: goes in before Tony, I would say I can accept
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  Speaker 1: that Steve Hutchinson was the best guard in football when
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  Speaker 1: he played. I mean he was. He was so dominant
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. I wouldn't have any problem with
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  Speaker 1: that because he's that good. I mean, Steve Hutchinson was
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  Speaker 1: that good. I mean he was at the level of
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  Speaker 1: Tony base Elliott left tackle Lara Hutchinson was out of guard.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking Larry Allen like and and those
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  Speaker 1: guys just don't come along very often. And uh so,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for me, the three offensive lineman Hutchinson or
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  Speaker 1: Basselli in my book or both, I think both of
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  Speaker 1: them legitimate candidates. Paula al who is going to be
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  Speaker 1: an absolute shoe in John Lynch. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: look at John Lynch's Pro Bowls, his all pro years
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  Speaker 1: great candidate. And I think what also helps John Lynch
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  Speaker 1: now is the ground swell of support that he gains
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  Speaker 1: from having his name in the public's eye right now
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  Speaker 1: because the forty Niners are in the Super Bowl. I
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  Speaker 1: think that helps John Lynch. I think it helps him
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  Speaker 1: a tremendous amount because now his name is on people's
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  Speaker 1: lips more often, and it's more at the forefront of
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  Speaker 1: people's minds. It may not come into the room like
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  Speaker 1: that on Saturday, but yes, in subliminal, subliminal. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's if you can't deny the exposure that John Lynch
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  Speaker 1: gets from being the general manager of the forty Niners
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  Speaker 1: right now. So I mean, and at Jared James, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: these are these are great Ken Richard Seymour. Richard Seymour
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  Speaker 1: is a Hall of Fame player. Roy Butler, the Roy
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  Speaker 1: Butler great player. I mean, he's a Hall of Fame type.
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  Speaker 1: That's the point you made earlier. Everybody, everybody's a legitimate candidate,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you know and and even though I kind
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  Speaker 1: of did it a little bit there with Fanica and
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  Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Tony as far as kind of ranking them,
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  Speaker 1: it's so hard to do that it's so hard to
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  Speaker 1: do that because a lot of people look at it
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  Speaker 1: and they say, okay, well he made eight Pro Bowls,
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  Speaker 1: and he made nine, and he made four All Pros,
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  Speaker 1: and he made three All pros. Will we'll wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times how that works is the teams
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  Speaker 1: they played on. How good were the teams that they
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  Speaker 1: played on? And then also how popular were those teams
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  Speaker 1: that they played on. You know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: great players that played in this in the National Football
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  Speaker 1: League that played on teams that weren't very good that
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  Speaker 1: if they played on good football teams and bigger markets
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  Speaker 1: would have been Hall of Fame candidates hands down. And
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  Speaker 1: uh and I think that that's somewhat is probably a
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  Speaker 1: little tough for Jacksonville market or Carolina Panthers market because
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: they're smaller markets. We're back in a moment and we'll
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  Speaker 1: hear from Roger Goodell, commissioner of the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: He had his annual Super Bowl press conference yesterday, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk collective bargaining agreement, big deal. Now, bigations are ongoing.
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  Speaker 1: Show continues right now. We've been having incredibly productive dialogue.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've made a lot of progress. It's now
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  Speaker 1: seven or eight months since we began those discussions more formally, UM.
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  Speaker 1: In each of those discussions has been opened dialogue. It's
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  Speaker 1: been thoughtful. UM. I think we've address difficult issues that
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  Speaker 1: face our league going forward and looking forward. And I
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  Speaker 1: think both the players and management. Everyone in the negotiation
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  Speaker 1: have work to try to find creative solutions to make
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  Speaker 1: the NFL better, and that's what you want. The process
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  Speaker 1: will close when the process closes, when when all of
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  Speaker 1: us feel comfortable that we reach an agreement that we
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  Speaker 1: want to go forward with it. UM. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: when that will be, but I think it's more important
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  Speaker 1: to get it right. I'm Goodell, Commissioner of the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League. Yesterday in South Florida, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the Doug Moron Show, Jap Shaddick, Jeff Logerman, final Doug
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  Speaker 1: Morone Show of this season. By the way, it's collective
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  Speaker 1: partnering agreement. Negotiations are ongoing. That's the good sign. And
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  Speaker 1: you know he said also yesterday that you know they're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna put anything out publicly to negotiate. They're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it behind closed doors. And to Mary Smith, I
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  Speaker 1: think said the same thing today, something to that regard. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna put out what we want or how
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  Speaker 1: we want it out in public on microphone here, but
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't serve anybody's interest. That's because once it's out
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  Speaker 1: The other way. So it's it's interesting. I'm curious when
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  Speaker 1: this gets done, when does it become final because they've
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  Speaker 1: been talking for a while now, I think since last
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  Speaker 1: well Rogers said seven seven eight months, essentially the discussion
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  Speaker 1: has has been going on in a formal fashion, which
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  Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's the only you can't sit there
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  Speaker 1: and say, well, we've been talking for two years. It's
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  Speaker 1: got to be a formal type situation. And um, when
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  Speaker 1: it gets done, I mean JP, I mean, who knows. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think the real positives are and that compared to
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  Speaker 1: the last time that this was going on, you're not
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  Speaker 1: seeing any signs like what we saw before of potential
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  Speaker 1: major disagreements that could lead to work stoppage, lockout, any
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  Speaker 1: of those things. So so I think it's real positive
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  Speaker 1: think it will get done. I think the one thing
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of the I guess you could say the
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  Speaker 1: wild card and all this is the seventeen game schedule.
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  Speaker 1: How how important is that to ownership because obviously money
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  Speaker 1: is a big factor with a seventeen game schedule, as
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  Speaker 1: far as increasing the amount of revenue that the NFL
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  Speaker 1: could generate from a seventeen game schedule. The from the
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  Speaker 1: players end there, there's a level of safety that is
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  Speaker 1: going to be lost with a seventeen game schedule because
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  Speaker 1: now you're adding more exposure to injury for the players.
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  Speaker 1: They've talked about roster solutions for that, They've talked about
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  Speaker 1: having players only active for sixteen games for that. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways that can be that that
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  Speaker 1: that could end up I think passing for the players.
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  Speaker 1: But most importantly, as it always does, is there's probably
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  Speaker 1: a price tag from the player's per step perspective that's
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  Speaker 1: attached to that seventeen game. What what value do you
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  Speaker 1: put on a seventeenth game for for players safety, for
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  Speaker 1: the amount of player safety that will be lost for
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  Speaker 1: seventeen games? And I personally think that the sixteen game
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  Speaker 1: schedule thirty two teams, the way that it's set up
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  Speaker 1: right now, I think it's perfect. I wouldn't change anything
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  Speaker 1: if if you wanted, in my opinion, to create more revenue,
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  Speaker 1: then more games exposed to TV creates more revenue. Go
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  Speaker 1: to two bye weeks in a season and then you're
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  Speaker 1: you're essentially stretching the season out for another week of TV.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't there there was a season in the A two
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: bye week system. It just felt like it was just
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a little long and drawn out. Well, what do you
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: think of seventeen game schedule with a bike? Is gonna
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna feel the same way, you know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: So I don't see. I don't see. I don't see
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: that how that could be that bad? I mean, for me,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: if if you want to go eighteen weeks and seventeen
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: games or sixteen games in eighteen weeks, I don't understand
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the difference. Now, I don't understand what the monetary differences
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: could be because you're you're having eighteen weeks, but you're
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you're sixteen games per team versus eighteen weeks and seventeen
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: games perteen differences one game worth of revenue, that's the difference. Yeah,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: But but but I mean what what what is the difference?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, because you're talking about gate and parking, everything
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: associated with a game. How much of how much of
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: TV revenue would increase by by stretching a sixteen sixteen
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: game season eighteen games? I don't know the answer to that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And if you have a seventeenth game, half the league's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: gonna have I mean, does every team get a home
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: one of those great questions. Now now it was something
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: odd and odd number bump every other year. You know, yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that's uh, that's interesting. I mean, does everybody play a
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: neutral sight game? Uh? You know a lot of people say, well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: everybody would play a game somewhere, an international game internationally.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Well that doesn't always work. I don't think that you
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: have that many. I don't think you'd have that many
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: international destination. Now you could go back to some of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: them the same you're in London, you know, which is
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you know, four or five? And I'm sure that this
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: team is going to be a candidate for two games.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I mean I would not be surprised at all if
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: this team has the announcement at some point that they're
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: gonna have two games in London. And I think that
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: other teams if they go to seventeen games. You know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I knew Toronto. They're talking up Toronto. That was a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: big talking point yesterday in Goodell's press conference, which when
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you look at Toronto, you're talking about six million people.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: What does that represent? Money represents a lot of money,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: And basically he said that it comes down to a stadium.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: If you have a a standard state a stadium, that's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: NFL standard, then guess what, then you qualify you know so,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: And they had some talk about Buffalo as well, because
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Buffalo is up against their stadium deal right now and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: they do and Buffalo Buffalo Stadium. If you look at
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: probably the stadiums in the National Football League, is there
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: a worse one than Buffalo right now? I mean it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the oldest that hasn't been redone. I mean when you
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: look at all the NFL markets, I mean pretty much
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: everybody has a stadium. Your head was redone all most
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: everybody else except here and Buffalo have been. But there's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: been a lot of a lot of improvements here. But Buffalo,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, JP, we've been our view, I haven't been.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I've been there. It's been a long time ago. Yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it was along the lines of San Diego, Oakland, Uh,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the old San Francisco Candlestick. I mean, so it was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty rough stadium. We'll have come back in
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a moment. Let's get on onto the field and talk quarterbacks.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew was making the rounds this week. They've been
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: thinking the rounds for the last few weeks around the country.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But he was on radio road yesterday. You've been following them, right, Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it was quite a road trip. It looked like it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: was a good time from the pictures that so I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: didn't follow every picture or anything like that, but I'm
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: kind of jealous. Pretty good trip, right, it really does.
• 23:31
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  Speaker 1: mens you, he was miked up on Radio Row. The
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• 26:15
  Speaker 1: looks like his hair is growing out a little bit,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't have that problem. I don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: think I'll ever have that problem again, unfortunately. But you know, hey,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it's been a fun month for him. This is that
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  Speaker 1: time of year, right. We're talking about the coaches being
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  Speaker 1: out a lot and all that, but it's the same
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  Speaker 1: for the players, and you need some downtime as a player,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and he's used it wisely, it seems like going across
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  Speaker 1: the country and doing his thing in the in the
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  Speaker 1: r v UM and he plans on doing it again
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: at some point. Good for him. And I know that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: he's pretty entertaining when he talks. You know, he's uh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he's got he's got a little bit more to him
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: than I think a lot of guys. He's got some
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: some thoughts that, Uh, that make you think a little bit.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be a really interesting year
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: for that position with this organization. Well, I mean not
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: only just from the standpoint of you look at it
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: from the perspective of, Okay, they have a choice to make,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: but is that from two choices or could it be
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: from three? Because the draft is right around the corner,
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  Speaker 1: and do you do you believe enough in the two
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you have that would keep you from potentially
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: drafting what might be a franchise quarterback in this draft?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: The kid that was at the Senior Bowl just recently,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: um not Burrow, and it's not to Herbert Oregan. Herbert
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: supposedly cemented himself as a as a top pick in
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the draft as a quarterback. Could could the Jaguars look
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: seriously at him? And could it? Could it be? I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say it would be are reman competition because when
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a rookie comes in, he's not gonna beat out guys
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that have played the game, and especially Nick Foles or
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Minshew that has a year under his belt. I think
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that would be incredibly difficult to do. But I mean,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: could could that happen? Yeah? It could it? Could. I mean,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: there's some school thought we'd just play the kid no
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: matter what, right I mean. So we've heard that from
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a man named Crisco. So I think it's gonna be
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: an interesting offseason when it comes to that to that
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: position group. And obviously Jay Gruden is gonna have a
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: lot of influence in that. Um if you're the offensive coordinator,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have your opinion is gonna hold a lot
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of sway. And so when it comes to the roster evaluations,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: there's almost like a little probably side note with some
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: of the offensive players, and that side notes as wait
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: until Jay finishes his evaluation before we make a final
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: decision on what direction we want to go with all
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: these different positions. And this is what we're talking about.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: You know that they discussed the coaching staff and the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: scouting staff kind of working together to figure out where
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and how and what they want and how they want it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: They you know, this is part of that process. You
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: got a new coach coming into that is all part
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of the process. But you have to get the self
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: evaluation is the first step in that process of scouting
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and coaching working together. And and here's the thing. The
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: coaches aren't the only people that put together an evaluation
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: of this roster that the Jaguars have right now? You know,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Jay Gruden and all the coaches do have an evaluation,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: but the scouting department also they have an evaluation of
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: this roster based on the performance of last year. So
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: how is that weighted in in the in the final
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: rankings or decisions that you come to and the roster, Well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that's obviously got to be worked out between Doug Moron
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and Dave Caldwell and uh and obviously we're not gonna
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: be privy did any of that information. But and then
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: going forward, the relationship has to build between scouting and coaching.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I think it was very apparent from watching the press
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: conference that that that relationship hasn't really happened in the past,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: where you had scouting and coaching in lockstep working together.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why it hasn't happened, but at least
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and maybe it has happened to some extent, but the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: impression that we got anyway was that it didn't happen
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a lot, or didn't happen at all. So relationships have
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to be built, and so that's gonna be a process.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think for for scouting and coaching, not that their
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: adversaries or anything or you know, it's not like we're
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: talking about Bruce Smith and Tony Boselli, you know, sitting
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: kumbae Au together and having a beer together. I mean,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it's we're talking about something here that can I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: work relatively quickly as far as that relationship working. So
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of that's got to happen. There's a lot
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to happen for this organization. They they got they got
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: some work to do. Back in just a moment, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we'll go on the defensive side. Un he can gotay talk?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah right? He was priority number one for
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the organization. Show me the money. We'll see show me
• 31:11
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl Week the game in South Florida Sunday, six
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: thirty Eastern time. Kick Yeah and J is a halftime show.
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  Speaker 1: Who cares? That's about It's about the game. I'll watched that.
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  Speaker 1: I want to watch television. I want to watch the
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  Speaker 1: commercials and I want to watch the game. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I did. You happen to hear that there was a
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  Speaker 1: He was circling a petition. Excuse my signed anything? Okay,
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• 34:26
  Speaker 1: pyramid there. You know, you signed that piece of paper. Yeah,
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• 34:32
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• 34:39
  Speaker 1: He was circling a petition around to change the Super
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  Speaker 1: watch the whole game. That's pretty cool. How many signatures
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: did he get? I don't know. I didn't. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see you, but I mean I thought it was I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was cool. I mean that just goes to
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  Speaker 1: when you have when you have kids wanting to make
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  Speaker 1: change so that they can watch the game on a
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  Speaker 1: Saturday and not worrying about it being a school night
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  Speaker 1: so they can watch the entire game. Six thirty that's
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  Speaker 1: probably a six thirty six kick so, yes, so it's
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at you know, past bedtime eleven o'clock Eastern,
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  Speaker 1: which is and then if you have a game like
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the Patriots and Falcons, stretches even farther defensive defensive talking
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  Speaker 1: you wanted. Well, the last last week we heard from
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  Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell at the Senior Bowl and we'll bild. We
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  Speaker 1: had him on on tape on Jaguars dot Com. John
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Osier talked to him as well, and part of the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: discussion was about, um, the negotiation with Uniquay and that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: they want to get everybody in the room and do
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: all that moving ahead. But um, then after that fact,
• 36:02
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  Speaker 1: tweet was don't believe everything you hear, and the next
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  Speaker 1: tweet after that the next day was free It feels
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: like he thinks he's gonna be a free agent. I
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• 36:22
  Speaker 1: he's not be a free agent, is he? No? I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: don't don't. I don't expect him to get the free agency.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I think you'll he'll get the tag. February is the
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: first day they can apply the tag and you don't
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: obviously you're not going to allow you don't want to
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: allow and got Way to get the free agency and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: uh and to lose your ability to to keep him
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: on your roster. UH. So I know that Dave calledwell
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: seems very confident that this can work out from a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: negotiation standpoint, I don't see that. I see this as
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: being a situation where they're probably going to have to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: use the franchise tag on a got Way and and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: then and then go from there. And then when you
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: when you talk about the negotiation when you have a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: player that's tagged, you start with the guaranteed money in
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the first year of the tag and then the application
• 37:22
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• 37:24
  Speaker 1: of your baseline for first starting the negotiation with the player.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: A lot of that because because that's going to essentially
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: be the guaranteed starting point. So I don't think it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be an easy process. I don't And a couple
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: of things, first of all, and at one, you gotta
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: get the room to be able to do that. Yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: last we checked their over right now, right, I don't
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: know if they're slightly under put it this way, they
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: don't have the money to sign a draft class, right
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and uh And Caldwell was asked about that, and he said,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you know, we can we can get there. We can
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  Speaker 1: create room to where we can be a player, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: free agency will. You can get there, But some of
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the names that you're talking about that can get you there,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: now you're creating more holes in your roster that you
• 38:11
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  Speaker 1: it's that easy. Well, you know, we're gonna we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: create the room and we're gonna be a player, and
• 38:20
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• 38:25
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• 38:29
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• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell, Marquis Lee, Jake Ryan Um, who else am
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I missing? Marcel Darius uh now Norwell your girlfriendsive Lineman.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, if you if you cut all those guys, yeah,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you got plenty of rooms. Five more guys you gotta fill.
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• 38:55
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• 38:57
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• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Campbell go yes, he means so much obviously on the field,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but everything around the building and everything too well. I mean,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a great player, is he? Is he
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  Speaker 1: truly worth paying fifteen million? Pretty good? Now? He's made
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl every year for you at six and a
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: half sacks. This past year he's got more sacks than
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: then he's ever had his career, A three in a
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: three year stretch? Is his has his skills diminished him?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting question. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: his level of play this past year wasn't equal to
• 39:39
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• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that diminishing skills or is that playing through injury? I mean,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the guy is banged up and just playing. That's how
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: he how he does, and he's playing a lot of snatchs.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, look, in a perfect world, you'd like
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  Speaker 1: to be able to for a for a player like
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Calais that's getting older, you'd like to be able to
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: start to drop his snaps into that plays a game range.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: And so do you do you justify paying fifteen million
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to a guy who's taking five snaps a game tops.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting conversation. So I think it's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting for this football team getting to
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: free agency. And then once free agency starts, it's gonna
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: get even more interesting because how many holes are you
• 40:32
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• 40:36
  Speaker 1: from a cap standpoint? Where are you at from an
• 40:38
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• 40:44
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• 40:49
  Speaker 1: all happen. It's no problem. We've got this. I think
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a rocky road. March eight seen is
• 40:56
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• 40:59
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• 41:01
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• 41:04
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• 41:07
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• 41:10
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• 41:12
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  Speaker 1: right now. So i'd be I'd be open to that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: And if one day they say, alright, media, you're not
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: doing it anymore, that's fine. We we I don't believe. Yeah,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I want. I want the best guys to decide this
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: more than anything else. And in my opinion, I think
• 44:06
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• 44:09
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• 44:14
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• 44:18
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• 44:20
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• 44:23
  Speaker 1: earlier about the voting process. We had another program here
• 44:26
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• 44:29
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• 44:34
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• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Writers Association. Sot um. Is it the right model? I mean,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: it is the model. It's what the model has always been.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see like Dion Sanders comes out
• 44:50
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• 44:52
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• 44:54
  Speaker 1: not letting enough guys in the Hall of Fame. So
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: they're getting it from both sides here. Really, well, I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: kind of understand where where Dion's coming from a little bit,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and I think some of that was in response to this,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to this special class that's going in this year. Are
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: already that was earlier decided? Yes, yeah, I mean why
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: year of the NFL. That's why a lot of them
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: are old. Just because we get to the hundred year mark,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you means you put in an extra fifteen guys apparently.
• 45:26
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• 45:32
  Speaker 1: why why didn't some of the modern day candidates. Why
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: weren't they considered for that list? I don't know. I mean,
• 45:40
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• 45:48
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• 45:49
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• 45:53
  Speaker 1: think that's where Dion was going with that, and that
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: he because there were some guys that went in that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: d N viewed as that didn't go through the process
• 46:05
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• 46:08
  Speaker 1: critical of anybody, but look, with this this special class
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: going in, they didn't have to go through the standards
• 46:14
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• 46:19
  Speaker 1: don't have Probably Hall of Fame can do whatever it wants.
• 46:22
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• 46:24
  Speaker 1: be fair. You're right, But if if you want, if
• 46:28
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• 46:30
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• 46:34
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• 46:38
  Speaker 1: it for a special class, And it wasn't really done
• 46:41
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• 46:44
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• 46:46
  Speaker 1: up a great talking point and that you know, are
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: we are we creating a Hall of Fame to where
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it's it's got so many in there, to where it's
• 46:58
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• 47:05
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• 47:10
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• 47:14
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• 47:16
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• 47:20
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• 47:22
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• 47:25
  Speaker 1: and are there some that maybe that got in that
• 47:27
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• 47:31
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• 47:33
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• 47:37
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• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the in the commercial break out some of the Centennial
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• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the league. Some how would you have liked to just
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: sat in, come on on the I mean your talk
• 51:44
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even want to. I wouldn't care about the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: conversations they were having. I just would want to be
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  Speaker 1: in the same room just to listen to them. How
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: they interact? How does Bill Belichick and Ozzie Knew some
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  Speaker 1: how do they talk to each other? Right? I mean,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, did the the amount of difference in respect?
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  Speaker 1: You're talking some of the greatest people to ever, no
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  Speaker 1: doubt ever, even participate in the National Football league in
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: that room. Obviously, that week we saw Bill Coward and
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• 52:31
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• 52:34
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. There were some tears dropping in. So there
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: was two coaches, three contributors, and ten seniors. That means
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: you played your last game twenty five seasons or more ago.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: So those are the qualifications to get in this centennial slate.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: So none of the modern era guys were eligible for this.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: So but SELLI would not have been eligible for this.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: He's eligible for the modern era vote, which happened. Let
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: me ask you this, yes, how long will it take
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: for another special class? I don't know, a hundred years,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: two hundred years, I mean they did it a hundred years. Mark.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious, I mean, you know, may because it
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: was the first class sixty three somewhere in there. It
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• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and the Hall of Fame started win, you know, next year,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: and then so when's the next special centennial class going?
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And I look, there's some names on there that I
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: mean should have been in the Hall of Fame. There's
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: no doubt contributor Steve Sable. I mean, that's hands down,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: that's a guinea he made. He made, he made the NFL. Yeah,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I mean the music video essentially the poetry of the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: game in motion. Did you not watch everything that NFL
• 53:52
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• 53:55
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• 53:58
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• 54:01
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• 54:03
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• 54:07
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• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, And they do very good work, obviously,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: but it's different now, yes, and classic. It's not the same.
• 54:19
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• 54:22
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• 54:25
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• 54:28
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• 54:31
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• 54:35
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• 54:38
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• 54:41
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  Speaker 1: Max Speedy and Ed Sprinkle were the ten seniors on
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  Speaker 1: that centennial slate. Congratulations to all of them, and George
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  Speaker 1: Young and Steve Sable and Paul Tagley Aboo were the contributors.
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  Speaker 1: Cower and Johnson the coaches, Paul tag boom. Yes, we're
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  Speaker 1: commissioner of the National Football League. Another final thought, The
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  Speaker 1: league just a few moments ago put out a story
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  Speaker 1: that the last time the Kansas City Chiefs were in
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl was Super Bowl four fifty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they won that Super Bowl. It was during
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  Speaker 1: Vietnam War, and there was an Air Force colonel named
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  Speaker 1: Edward Lee Hubbard. He was in a six by six
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  Speaker 1: ft cell in Vietnam the vihicon. No, no, it doesn't say,
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  Speaker 1: but uh. He was a prisoner of war and he
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  Speaker 1: found out three years later when he was released, that
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  Speaker 1: his beloved Kansas City Chiefs were even in the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl and much less and won it. And today Roger Goodell,
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  Speaker 1: the commissioner of the National Football League, surprised him with
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  Speaker 1: two tickets to the game in Miami on Sunday. That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool, good good good. Uh nice job by Roger Goodell.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty neat. Who do you like in the game. I'm
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  Speaker 1: rooting for Kansas City. I'm rooting for I'm rooting for
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid. I think the Chiefs put up forty points
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  Speaker 1: in the show San Francisco and putting up forty one
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  Speaker 1: I got news. I mean they're gonna put up. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna put up some points now, but Kansas City is
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  Speaker 1: gonna win. I have a good one. Logs Jeff Logaman
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  Speaker 1: back with more. It's a Dugmaron show on Jaguars Radio.