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"Libertarian Feminist" Is Here to Save Men From the Men's Rights Movement! Part 2 | Fundzerker 169 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Coming to you live from deep within a radioactive wasteland. We are the survivors
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  of they all right apocalypse, the few of the brave, the bitchy,
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  once more wading into battle against the froggy lobsters zombie hordes with rant c zerker
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  rand z. Yeah, something like that. One sixty nine limited limit limit
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  limited? Whoa limitarian or limitarian? I was going, Okay, my mouth
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  made libertarian. That once was a cute libertarian ce and so it was Limerickian.
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  I think it's actually said limitarian, which is probably more accurate. Libertarian.
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  Feminist is here to save men, the men's from the men's mm hmm,
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  yes, okay, I was actually think I think about the overarching structure
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  of all of this. Um. Essentially, feminism is the excuse for why
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  we don't have to care about men's issues, which makes it really funny when
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  feminists say, well, why do you have to attack feminism, Well,
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  you're the reason why nobody like you're You're the excuse that everybody reaches for when
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  we say things like well, men commit suicide and then feminists come, but
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  that means they're just victims of their own constructs. Yeah, men, men
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  suffer more workplace accidents, Well, it's men making the decisions. So the
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  men who are dead in the workplace floor, that's their fault. Yeah,
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  you know I'm being slightly hyperbolic, but I've actually had feminists argue all of
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  these things. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just a way of
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  simply saying, yeah, not our problem. Sorry, so sorry, not
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  our problem. Yeah, but when men append to this. But men have
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  to be allies for feminists. But but but man, even if you're an
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  ally, you need to shut the fuck up, sit in the corner,
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  only do what you're told, and don't expect a cookie, because you don't
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  deserve a cookie just for being a decent human being. And by cookie,
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  we mean feedback that you're doing the right thing. So you need on the
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  head, You need to do the right thing without being motivated to want to
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  know that you're doing the right thing. Which good luck finding the psychology that
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  can manage that prexel. Yeah, well you know, it's it's just what
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  they do. Yes, But all right, so, um, well we're
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  the tip and I probably will do some arm twisting at the half hour or
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  so. Uh. We we don't want to have to play the squealing feminist.
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  I think everybody decided that we're never doing that again. No, we
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  can know, Yeah we if if if, if the audience gets that recale
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  citron, we're breaking that crap out again. Fortunately, when my computer imploded,
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  I lost that sound bite, so I don't have it. Um,
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  a lot of this stuff from like, oh but I bet you Alison and
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  I could like mimic it. Yeah, I mean I could play that just
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  because like Jesus fuck, are you trying to torture the audience or me?
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  Yes? Yes, yes, of course I am just whole buffet of misery.
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  Yeah, no, like why wouldn't I just like you know, I
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  you know how it is, yes, and you grow up with all kinds
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  of resentments and stuff, and well you know, I'm annoyed at my mother
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  in law, so, um, you know, why not take it out
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  on the audience and me in particular me if you want me, are we
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  are going to make this sound? Oh? Yeah, No, we're gonna
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  talking. So we're gonna make that sound you and me. Okay, if
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  if needs be, if if if needs must, I don't even fuck I
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  think I've blacked that sound out. Okay, if you can't do it,
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  I have to question your commitment to the car, right, So please go
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  to feed the badger places place I don't have to fucking shred my throat making
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  stupid feminist singing sounds. Yeah, I don't even think they did it seriously.
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  Oh they were serious. They were as serious as that woman who like
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  dropped eggs out of her vagina while straddling too saw horses over a fricking artist's
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  canvas. They just want to destroy all kinds of every form of merit in
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  the world and just replace it with nepotism, because apparently patriarchy doesn't grow merit.
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  Patriarchy doesn't run on merit. It just runs on male privilege that convinced
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  themselves. Oh anyway, well no, but it's it's like every every single
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  thing right that they They're like, whoa, this is so like unique and
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  avant garden. It's like yeah, no, it's really ugly and gross.
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  Yeah period, but art and like yeah, no, it's like it's not
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  a celebration of the human spirit or the or the length. You know,
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  a lot of stuff can be incomprehensive, like I mean, some forms of
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  art, postmodern art a lot, you know, people can be really down
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  with. But you know, the guy who made floating islands and stuff that
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  looks like it was a trip to be part of, to be honest,
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  you know, you would make these like octagonal like booie things and then tie
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  them all together and have like a bridge that that that connected two islands together,
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  and then people would just be wandering all over it, you know.
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  I mean, nobody really understands what the hell that was supposed to mean,
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  except that it sounds like it was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah,
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  that's postmodern art at least the stuff that I know. Oh yeah,
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  well the stuff that the stuff that actually has some kind of value, you
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  know, because you can walk on it, yeah and get to the next
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  island. So and it creates a it creates a memory, yeah, because
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  you outside the and a memory that you don't want to block out of your
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  brain. Yeah, something beautiful that extends human experience. Yeah, how does
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  period blood painting extend human experience? Not just period blood painting, period blood
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  finger painting. Okay, well it's kind of part It's like it's like part
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  porn Star, part Jackson Pollock. I think it's just it's driven by massive
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  insecurity. Yeah, because they're the ones telling men that they like see women
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  as objects. Meanwhile, they use the all of their girl parts to like
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  makes artwork. And I put that in quotes. Yeah yeah, no,
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  they like paint their boobs and then press them against a canvas. Yeah,
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  like it's art. Yeah, it's like, yeah, we did that with
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  potatoes when we were like little kids. You know, cut a potato in
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  half, like turn it in, carve it into a stamp, and then
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  like use it to stamp stuff. It's it's the internal war against holding women
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  to any external standard, including those that we hold men too. Yeah.
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  Well you know, but okay, all right, well let's so, are
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  you finished with a little plug because I'm want to read some super childs that
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  we got from between this show. Okay, sure, go ahead, do
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  it all right, So this is yesterday, after we did our fundraising show.
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  Rushacks No gives us ten bucks and says, hey, badgers, I
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  still remember my favorite Transformer figure dread Wing. I never heard of that one,
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  but I never saw it in the cartoons. I think that's part of
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  why I like it. Here's a song for next please, Robert Miles's children
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  Dream version. Unfortunately this was after our show was over, so I don't
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  know if we do if we do another one, or maybe the next time
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  I could pin this and maybe the next time, I mean, we could
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  like do it. So thank you, Rushacks No a little late though,
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  sorry about that. Next we got Lord Thundercunt gives us fifty dollars and says,
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  Brian, you monster. You forgot to have Alison play my song tonight.
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  And after I paid an advance. I kid, here's somebody to hear
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  my name, said extreame Lord Thundercunt. I'm pretty sure I told Alison all
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  of the song requests. So Lord thundercutt you say it three times fast and
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  he appears behind you and he will appear in the mirror. So yeah,
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  thank you, Lord Thundercunt. Wasn't that like, well, okay, random
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  movie thing that's got me thinking. So there was this film called Blade Trinity
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  was the third movie in the Blade movie trilogy, I guess, and Ryan
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  Reynolds was in it and he calls Parker Posey's character a thundercunt. I'm pretty
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  sure, and that was like the first time I ever heard it, and
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  it was very funny at the time because of the way Ryan Reynolds said it
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  though, So anyway, so thank you Lord. All right, last we
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  got young Sage who gives us twenty five dollars and says this is for completing
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  my song choice during the Beatsaver fundraiser stream. I was disappointed that the song
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  was talked over by Brian and the lyrics didn't manage to spark any discussion.
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  The song is part of an album that tells the story of Doctor Light from
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  Mega Man as he creates robot workers with Doctor Wiley to save men from workplace
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  deaths his father worked into his grave. Doctor Wiley has different plans for the
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  robots and wants to use him to give himself control and power over the Populace.
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  Doctor Wiley betrays Doctor Light by using the first robot to kill Doctor Light's
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  lover Emily and frame him for the crime. The song I Chose was Doctor
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  Wiley using the media to frame his enemy and rile up the Populace into a
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  frenzy to see Doctor Light hanged for killing Emily. Doctor Light is driven out
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  by the people after narrow escaping a death sentence. Well, thank you for
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  the song requests and for the donation. As to my talking over the song,
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  we're expected to do that because otherwise, like it's I don't we get
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  in trouble with the algorithm if we don't, like make a little bit of
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  noise during the song. So I'm I apologize for that, but I don't
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  know that there was any way I could avoid it. Um. I am
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  familiar with the story that you're talking about because I'm a huge Mega Man fan,
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  so I understand. But thank you, as we're gonna say something,
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  Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, we do have to sort of talk
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  a little bit during the songs because otherwise we get an instant inc if we
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  just play songs. Yeah, this way we at least get to finish the
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  stream. And I'm sorry we didn't. We didn't end up talking about that.
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  That does sound like a really interesting story. Yeah, I didn't know
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  what the lyrics were. I know of the ProtoMan, but I didn't.
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  Yeah, I'm sorry so um, but that I'm just like that. The
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  reality is is that we can't really do it. But yeah, thanks for
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  the super chow. You kind of explained it, um. And then we
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  just got another one from Zapierre which is basically um anonymous for five dollars with
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  no comment. So if you meant to give us a name and a comment,
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  tag at Badge of live streams in a live chat and tell us what
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  it is that you meant to say, Rumbo Squad or Rumble Gang, say
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  hello hello rumble folks. Um, I do see there are some people watching
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  on Rumble cool and for those of you on Facebook and Twitter, hello and
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  Twitch hello. So all right, that is it. I will try to
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  remember that song request from before, because I don't see and we don't know
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  who you. We don't know what song you requested, Lord Thundercunt. No,
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  no, no, not not Lord Thundercunt. We played that one,
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  but we talked over it. I know which one it was. That was
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  Young Sage. Young Sage was the one we played. Oh yeah, I
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  don't know. I didn't get I didn't get a request. But he did
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  say he was kidding after, so maybe he didn't actually do that. Anyway.
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  What I pined just now is Ruschack's nose request, which came. It
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  was a request, but it came after the show was over. So all
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  right, so I think we've a right clod the business. Let's do the
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  thing. So I'm gonna share my screen with you guys. We are going
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  to be looking at more of the libertarian feminist Hannah Cox and her thoughts on
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  why the men's rights movement has a point but they're not qualified to discuss these
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  issues, and she is, yeah, the only people, the only people
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  to care enough to have dealt with this stuff for decades. Yeah, we
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  are the ones need to step aside for her well misogyny, well or or
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  at the very least, uh, you know, she thinks that like,
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  oh, there's like some guys that are like doing good work and then there
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  are some guy that are just really counterproductive. So it's like, well,
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  do we have to do we have to like you know, uh, do
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  we have to condemn those people or can we just get on with you?
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  Is really no, we we we need to purge them. But no,
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  but this is this is a strategy right where you basically say that the people
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  Okay, it's the reverse of what I have always kind of said about you
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  know, the structure of men's rights movements. So you have the people like
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  Cafe out in the front, right, they're out in the front, and
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  then you have behind them you have you know, some of the people who
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  are a little bit more hardcore, they're anti feminists, they're they're not interested
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  in working with feminists or getting along with them. And then behind those you
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  have other people who are pushing right and or you know, like so basically
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  you have this this pyramid of people where the ones who are the most hardcore
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  are going to draw most of the fire right, and then that gives room
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  for the people who are at least hardcore to actually get work done there,
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  shit done. Yeah, And well, but she's basically saying that the people
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  who are actually drawing the fire right, She's like, well, no men's
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  rights activists now have any kind of authority to comment on these issues now because
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  they're tainted by those people. And it's like, yeah, no, no,
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  those people are keeping everybody busy while work is getting done elsewhere. And
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  yeah, I've seen so much crap and heard so many torror stories of feminists
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  attacking just groups and their only mandate is to for example, help male survivors
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  of sexual abuse. Yeah, and other and other issues like that, that's
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  their only mandate. Yeah, feminists will attack them and try to destroy them.
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  And I've noticed that that has reduced significantly since there's this standing guard of
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  people who are like, yeah, no, you're not We're not gonna we
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  are gonna watch this process and we're gonna call you out. You got to
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  go through us first, you know, you got to you gotta try to
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  get rid of us first. And then suddenly we're starting to see the ability
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  of these groups that just look at the issues themselves and they don't shouldn't have
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  to care about the political environment because all of this stuff should be a political
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  Feminists are making it political because they're tying it up with a modern day religion.
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  Okay, And they are now able to operate to some degree because because
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  they have to go through through us first to get to them. Yeah,
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  And that's how it's been working. And honestly, one of the things that
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  I dislike most about what she's been saying is many of the people that she
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  accuses or lumps in with us do not identify as men's issh's advocates or men
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  or anything or anything. So she's loving she's just making a migtail there in
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  cells, their red pillars. They're like pickup artists and mostly their their high
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  profile gadflies. Basically, well, it's like they don't have anything to do
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  with us. They probably don't really care that much about other men. Okay,
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  so why are you doing this? And at the same time, I
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  guarantee that if we called out the behavior, attitudes, and speech of feminists
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  who go way, way, way beyond the pale and what they're saying or
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  doing, like Mary Costs to find when women raping men out of existence or
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  advocacy for killing men, that that kind of stuff, way they on the
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  pale, she would say, well, not all feminists, even though these
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  women identify as feminists. So we have to answer for everything bad a man
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  does, and she doesn't have to answer for anything a feminist does. Even
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  feminists who get unbelievably awful crap done in the name of the system itself or
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  with the system itself is encouragement. This is infuriating. Yeah, yeah,
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  but it's women get away with shit, that's it. That's how it works.
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  So yeah, until they don't, honestly, until everything comes crashing around
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  their ears. Well, the problem is it doesn't just come crashing down around
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  women's ears right as everyone's ears. Yes, I know. Okay, let's
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  all right, So we're gonna go ahead and get started again. If you
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  guys have any questions or comments, send us a super chat through YouTube or
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  a super chow through feed, the Badger dot com, forward slash just the
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  tip, or you can send a rumble ran or whatever your preferred method is.
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  All right, So anyway, let's continue. So she was talking about
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  the various issues that men have. She was talking about. I believe it
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  was like workplace deaths was the last thing that we that she said before we
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  stopped. Most of this is all stuff that we already know because we've been
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  talking about it for years and years and years. But I guess it's good
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  that she's now talking about it. Anyway, let's continue. Their average life
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  expectancy is five years less than women. Nineteen percent of men are classified as
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  having a gaming addiction, porn addictions are up, thirty four percent of men
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  are overweight. The list could go on, but you get the picture as
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  a whole. There are a lot of men facing very serious issues in our
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  society right now, and when they talk about them, they're often met with
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  derision from who I'm pausing for the banana? How many? How many women
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  are addicted to things like kinder and just basically dialing up a man from the
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  caress? Yeah? Yeah, Well and and you look at you know,
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  women are addicted to Instagram, They're addicted to social media. And she doesn't
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  say how what percentage of women are obese? Yeah? So I mean like
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  it's I'm just saying that, like, you know, a lot of these
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  issues are things that people can take action to deal with on their own.
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  Right, you don't have you don't have to be OBEs. You don't have
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  to you know, like you can generally those are generally, um, those
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  are things that you can do something about. Um. But you know,
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  like there is this kind of idea of you know, she's basically like she's
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  listing off a whole bunch of things. Oh, they're addicted to gaming,
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  they're addicted to porn, They're addicted to a whole bunch of things that I
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  don't approve of. Yeah, right, that don't provide me with any benefit
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  as a woman, right, and those are the things that she's she's taking
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  issue with, right yeah. Um. And it's like, well, okay,
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  so you look like you buy clothes more than once a year, um,
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  and you look like you spend more on your your tops and your bottoms,
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  you know, um than than twelve dollars. So you know, are
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  are you addicted to clothing? Are you addicted to makeup? Are you addicted
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  to hair product? Like? Please tell me? Yeah, just go ahead,
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  alson, you know, it's like not suicide, he did, she
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  mentioned suicide. Would you mentioned workplace death? Right? She did? She
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  mentioned suicide and workplace death at the end of the last show. But the
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  thing is, though, like, I don't think MRAs are necessarily going to
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  be able to do much about things like obesity and porn addiction other than perhaps
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  just like try to like shine a light on it, because like those aren't
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  like there. I don't see a legal recourse unless she's calling the band things,
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  which doesn't sound very libertarian to me. Yeah, I know the solutions
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  to obesity are people like Andrew Tate. I'm sorry, yeah, okay,
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  I don't think solutions and also even things like gaming addiction, right, like
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  you want you want to inspire men to go out and do something other than
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  you know, sit and get you know, acquire at a post tissue and
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  and well that you and watch porn. Right, Well, you need to
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  inspire them to get out there and move in the world. And you know
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  who does that, Kevin Samuels and Rutay you know all of these the red
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  pill subreddit, right, those are all the people who are like, hit
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  the gym, get some nice clothes, get a good job, you know,
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  keep it up, right, yep, there like this aren't going to
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  do that. They're just gonna say it. But they don't like you know,
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  if men are encouraged, um, they're capable of all kinds of shit.
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  And if they're encouraged by women, it's even like more powerful of motivator.
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  But well, and it's it's like you do have you do have the
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  self improvement crowd in the manto sphere, right, which is basically the red
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  pillars, right, and then you do have uh, the you know what,
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  fuck them if they can't take a joke crowd, right, And like
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  I I'm fine with myself, right, So the the ones that will be
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  like, you know, well, suicide is not the answer because you don't
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  have a problem, because it's like those are the MiG tail, right,
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  just because you don't have a woman doesn't mean that you Yeah no, And
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  then you have you have men's rights activists who are like, well, how
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  can we try to make the environment better for you in order to help you
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  achieve and succeed and and and just facilitate your journey of self improvement or make
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  you I guess more safe and secure and comfortable as the man that you are,
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  right, And if she doesn't like any of those people, yeah,
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  no solution. But I think the men's from at least what I've been trying
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  to do is just give people or men usually the tools to push back against
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  these narratives, like the mental tools to just stop them in their tracks and
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  yeahs appropriate boundaries with messages negative messaging. Don't believe it, Just don't don't
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  believe it, Yeah, because it's it takes more than it takes more than
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  just don't believe it. It takes a like a lot of work, ye
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  kick out this kind of negative messaging, And it is a real this is
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  a sheer abuse what the world is heaping on men. And I know there's
• 26:37
  there's people out there are like, well, men should be able to take
• 26:40
  it, really, because what kind of psychology is just able to completely dismiss
• 26:44
  all of the messaging of every person around them. Yeah. Yeah, it's
• 26:49
  that kind of sity. You do you really want men like that? Because
• 26:52
  I can tell you if you if you, if you're, if that's what
• 26:55
  you're inviting into your world, you're essentially inviting into in men who regard you
• 27:02
  with no interest or care aside from what you can give them in the most
• 27:04
  basic biological sense. Yeah, because they don't care. They don't care what
• 27:08
  you think about don't They don't give a fuck what you think about them.
• 27:12
  Like, if you're if that's the kind of men you want, that's fine,
• 27:15
  but guess what, you're not going to enjoy the process of interacting with
• 27:18
  them. And I can't even bother interacting with you. Yeah, okay,
• 27:25
  So if you want men who respond to you're hurting people. If you want
• 27:33
  men to respond to we need to get that fire out or you know,
• 27:38
  the mother down the street and her kid are going to die. If you
• 27:41
  want men to actually respond to things like that, like compassion, then you
• 27:47
  can't constantly be destroying them emotionally. Yeah, okay, it's as simple as
• 27:55
  that. You're either going to get men who are completely tuned out because they
• 27:59
  can't like you're abusing the hell out of them, or you're gonna get men
• 28:02
  who are sociopaths. That's it, yea yeah. And and with women,
• 28:07
  you know, all the all they hear is how great they are, how
• 28:11
  how oppressed they are, right, and it's just a recipe for like rampant
• 28:17
  female narcissism. It's I mean, it's like it's just email Andrew Tate on
• 28:22
  steroids. That's what like feminism is. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because
• 28:27
  it's simultaneously that, but it's also simultaneously and incredibly this incredible sense of insecurity.
• 28:34
  Oh crypt yeah, yeah, I mean, and I have something like
• 28:37
  I could just run by. It was really something that made me think,
• 28:41
  and it has made me think for like what quite some time now. My
• 28:45
  mother used to be involved in the feminist movement. Um she actually there's a
• 28:51
  there's a there's this woman on Twitter who keeps trying to shame me because I'm
• 28:56
  guess the non feminist now. But it was my mom who got me on
• 29:00
  this path. She was the one who gave me my first feminist critical book
• 29:04
  to look at, and she herself was questioning the entire movement first because lesbian
• 29:11
  separatists had treated my bother like crap. And then also because she got drummed
• 29:15
  out of the the newspaper or that there was like a feminist newsletter that she
• 29:23
  was editing, and they drummed her out because she wanted to uphold standards literary
• 29:30
  standards of grammar and other stuff like that, like merit, and they said
• 29:34
  that was of the patriarchy. They didn't want to have any stand beheld to
• 29:38
  any standard whatsoever because it was all of the patriarchy. And she ended up
• 29:42
  getting drummed out because of that. When I went to she died in two
• 29:48
  thousand and seven and at her funeral, I remember her friends, some of
• 29:52
  whom were feminists, something that they said about her. They said that she
• 29:56
  was a woman who didn't need feminism. I've really been thinking about that what
• 30:02
  that actually means, what, who and what is a woman who doesn't need
• 30:07
  feminism? And it wasn't it wasn't an insult. Yeah, but that's that's
• 30:14
  all. That's all women. We none of us need feminism. Feminism has
• 30:21
  never not been rotten, I know, but that's not really where it was
• 30:25
  coming from. It wasn't like feminism. She was just so strong on her
• 30:30
  own, she was so iconic on her own and blah blah blah, and
• 30:33
  um, yes, so she didn't need that, and it's like, yeah,
• 30:37
  no woman actually needs that. You just need to like own who you
• 30:41
  are and you know, do your best. And but it really got me
• 30:47
  thinking about what feminism really is. I mean, even if feminists are going
• 30:49
  to say something like that, yeah, what is feminism? What is it?
• 30:56
  What is a woman who needs feminism? If a woman who doesn't need
• 30:59
  feminism is actually something to aspire to m you know, And that's that's that's
• 31:06
  something that I'm really thinking about. And I realized that feminism seems to be
• 31:12
  an indulgence in insecurity in a profound sense of lack, like you need to
• 31:21
  play the victim in order to be able to do anything in your life.
• 31:25
  Really, yeah, what, No nobody needs to be told that. Okay.
• 31:33
  So, not only does it set men and women at each other's throats,
• 31:36
  or at least women at men's throats, it also creates this idea that
• 31:40
  women can't do anything unless they they whine, or if they if they do
• 31:47
  do things right. And this is this is one of the things that has
• 31:51
  been like, uh, sort of a cornerstone of like movement feminism is if
• 31:59
  they actually do things that they want to do, they get criticized for it
• 32:06
  because they're just making patriarchy work for them. I'm surprised your mother didn't get
• 32:10
  that at her funeral. She made patriarchy work for her, you know,
• 32:16
  and a band and the sisterhood, because that's what That's what you hear from
• 32:22
  a lot of sort of second waivers or people who were you know, inculcated
• 32:29
  into the second wave way of thinking. Henria Dwarkin was widely criticized by feminists
• 32:36
  because she still had sex with men. She wasn't willing to be become a
• 32:40
  political, political lesbian. That's definitely a thought. Okay, yeah, but
• 32:49
  it's just but wouldn't that be what feminism should aspire to, if it was
• 32:52
  legitimate at all? Would be its own obsolescence? Yeah, to make women
• 32:58
  not need it? Yeah, I mean that's it. Shouldn't that be the
• 33:00
  goal of any movement? Is that you're supposed to make things so that,
• 33:06
  Yeah, I should. I don't want to have to do this for perpetuity.
• 33:09
  I it's a sense that we will likely be doing this for a very
• 33:14
  long time. Yeah, But um, you know, I'm pretty sure that
• 33:17
  you would like to do your stories, and I would like to do my
• 33:21
  stories, and Karen would probably like to snake or drain. Um. You
• 33:27
  know that's not actually that enjoyable and you just need to do it a lot.
• 33:34
  Yeah, no, like two to three times a year. Yeah,
• 33:38
  yeah, but yeah, okay, let's let's way. Yeah, I could
• 33:45
  be out cutting the grass right now, but instead I'm in here. Actually
• 33:49
  I couldn't be because it was like raining earlier. And yeah, we still
• 33:53
  have the severe thunderstorm watch. So all right, so I do have a
• 33:58
  few thank yous to give some Maybe I should do that now before we continue.
• 34:01
  After all, we want to get our two minutes in for todays everyone.
• 34:07
  Okay, so I want to thank um okay fs who put in a
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• 34:57
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  Make sure that we can continue to do this work. It is definitely
• 35:15
  I believe that it's the work that needs to get done. We need to
• 35:20
  be honest about the real relationship between men and women because it is the basis
• 35:24
  of everything, in my opinion, Like, I'm not sure what else the
• 35:30
  basis would be. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's not aliens behind the
• 35:32
  scenes. Well maybe it is, who knows, But I think it's more
• 35:37
  likely that it's our instincts as men and women and how they integrate that forms
• 35:43
  society, informs what's possible in society. I mean, if you wherever you
• 35:50
  look in the Animal Kingdom, if you see nests or colonies or any kind
• 35:55
  of effort beyond the immediate, see the instincts between men and women or males
• 36:01
  and females. So and we just live in a gigantic nesting colony, and
• 36:08
  when the desire to pursue that kind of thing goes away, it's only a
• 36:15
  matter of time before we experienced colony collapse. All right, So once again,
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  let's feed the Badger dot com slash support put pledge for more truth between
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  the sexes or truth about how the sexes relate. And let's listen to this
• 36:30
  person who has absolutely no knowledge of how the sexes actually relate. So I
• 36:37
  did get a super chat while you guys were talking. All right, I'm
• 36:44
  a little distracted by my headache, so I'm probably not in the best form
• 36:47
  right now. It's fine. Chloe Small gives us ten dollars Canadian and says
• 36:52
  conflating MRAs, but pickup artists in cells make towels and mass shooters also,
• 37:00
  and as the at takedown MRA's approach um his takedown Twitter, Yeah he has
• 37:07
  yeah, yeah, no, it's I came back on and it was like,
• 37:13
  uh, he's still there, Well, he's still there. Still I
• 37:19
  think he's still a little bit smarting over the fact that he attempted to get
• 37:22
  us kicked out of the hotel. Yeah, and what happened is a parent
• 37:27
  according to Karen. I mean I can't say it because I wasn't there,
• 37:30
  but what when we are? I see my twin nineteen, Remember he was
• 37:36
  texting or tweeting at the hotel saying, do you guys realize you have white
• 37:39
  supremacist Nazi fascist? And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Corporate
• 37:44
  he was. He was tweeting at corporate and like the the entire nationwide tricking
• 37:50
  and um, what was it? It was, um, oh, I
• 37:54
  don't remember. Yeah, yeah, so he was, he was there and
• 38:04
  all the sheriton did was just asked us to cover the ritan Um thing on
• 38:09
  the podiums, the Sharton logo and and then we could continue to live stream
• 38:16
  and h And when I when I I went when they went and covered them
• 38:22
  up, I went and asked the assistant manager if there was like some kind
• 38:29
  of major problem, and he was like, no, no, no,
• 38:31
  Um, everything's fine. It's just that corporate is just wondering what the like.
• 38:37
  They just called us and went what the hell is going on? And
• 38:42
  we explained it, and you know, they asked us to just you know,
• 38:45
  take some steps to like minimize. Wasn't he like, wasn't he like
• 38:51
  handling you? Like he was worried You're going to freak out? Oh he
• 38:53
  was. He was like very upset about the fact that, you know,
• 38:58
  he was asked to do that. And and then you know when we left,
• 39:04
  when I left, right, um, when I was checking out,
• 39:07
  he was there, and I just I asked him, like, you know,
• 39:12
  how was how was the group? Like did you have any problems with
• 39:15
  us? He was like no, no, no, you guys were awesome,
• 39:17
  Like it was great. So yeah, yeah, well I mean yeah,
• 39:27
  well honestly, like I said, lot some money at the hotel,
• 39:30
  right, the only real difference between people who are interested in men's issues and
• 39:36
  anyone else is that they just care about more people. That's it. Yeah,
• 39:43
  I mean that's really the only thing that's true. Like, we just
• 39:46
  also care about men. There are very very few people who do not care
• 39:50
  about women. We just also care about men. And a lot of us,
• 39:53
  just a lot of us, just looked at the landscape and said,
• 39:57
  hey, we a men's issues seemed to be underserved. Maybe this is where
• 40:00
  I should plant my flag because no one else seems to be doing it.
• 40:04
  Um. And then everybody like all of these other groups are get into this
• 40:07
  weird Oh you're so full, But you know, honestly, I think that
• 40:14
  I think what we're seeing is the feminist rhetoric is so profitable, you know,
• 40:20
  and it's so useful. It can do anything from uh selling charity like
• 40:28
  people um spending money on charity without any real oversight judging from the financials to
• 40:35
  selling people on bombing uh poor villages in like you know, the hills of
• 40:40
  Afghanistan or Syria. It can it can do that. I can do everything
• 40:46
  from selling just selling to selling murder. So it's really profitable and it's really
• 40:52
  useful. And what are we doing here. We're we're stupidly pottering into this
• 40:58
  gigantic the jaws of this gigantic grift and being like, but wait, this
• 41:04
  didn't make any sense, and they're like, yeah, shut the fuck up.
• 41:07
  We're making money and killing people. What do you want? Yeah,
• 41:10
  you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I agree, And it's
• 41:14
  it's like but yeah, no, Like I have to give it to the
• 41:17
  Sharedtan in Chicago there because like they were so good right from the moment that
• 41:27
  we asked them for a contract to host that thing, they were unbelievably good.
• 41:35
  They adjusted their contracts so that they took on all of the risk,
• 41:42
  all of the risk, and so that we wouldn't be out any money if
• 41:49
  if they had to cancel because of bomb threats or whatever. Right, if
• 41:53
  they had to cancel because of because of misbehaving feminists on us, they would
• 42:01
  have to reimburse us in full, plus pay us some damages so we could
• 42:08
  reimburse our the people who were coming flying in paying their own travel right from
• 42:16
  all over the world. That you know that we would be able to compensate
• 42:22
  them for that outlay of costs if if they had to cancel the last minute.
• 42:29
  And like we were like super harsh negotiation negotiators, and they that what
• 42:36
  was her name, Donna or Donna or I forget, but she was great.
• 42:40
  She basically just said, as long as none of the people in your
• 42:46
  group are going to be throwing chicken nuggets off like the fifth floor in the
• 42:52
  atrium to see if they can land them in some businessman's drink in the atrium
• 42:59
  bar, I'm good, I'm good, We're good. Yeah, And they
• 43:06
  knew, yeah, they took on all that the like we all would have,
• 43:10
  like the contract would have been canceled with no penalties either way if there's
• 43:15
  been an earthquake or something. But but yeah, no like they and they
• 43:21
  don't. Hotels don't have civil unrest insurance, so they were willing to really
• 43:27
  go the extra mile for us. Yeah, very much appreciated. Okay,
• 43:31
  let's get back to this thing. Yeah, let's get back to the video.
• 43:35
  All right, I'm gonna play another clip. And I have a lot
• 43:38
  of men in my life that I love. Been very fortunate to be surrounded
• 43:42
  by up standing men of character in my family, to my brothers, to
• 43:45
  cousins and uncles. I have reaped the benefits of always having strong men backing
• 43:49
  me up, isn't it strong men? Strong men backing her up? Oh
• 43:58
  well yeah, no, don't you mean strong men carrying you? I mean
• 44:04
  toxic masculinity. Ooh swoon. Yeah, it's just funny that she she says,
• 44:12
  I've always had reaped the benefits. I reap the benefits of always having
• 44:15
  strong men backing me up. So not so. Whether or not she values
• 44:22
  or praises a man depends on what he provides, not just for existing.
• 44:28
  They have to pack themselves in some way. I can live with that.
• 44:31
  I can live with that, you know, But this whole idea that well,
• 44:36
  I was super, super lucky because I had this thing that no other
• 44:40
  woman has. I had strong men who loved me, who backed me up,
• 44:46
  like give me a break. That's like the experience of most women.
• 44:51
  Yep. Yeah, they actually stopped and thought about it. They would they
• 44:53
  would have to acknowledge that because at the very least, there are even if
• 44:59
  you're even if you have no men in your life, or you think you
• 45:02
  don't, you still are being provided for by men if you're a woman.
• 45:09
  You know. It's why when they didn't sell Korea, they were like,
• 45:13
  oh, we're not We're not going. There was a bunch of feminists who
• 45:15
  said, we don't. We're we're we are not going to do anything with
• 45:17
  men. We're cutting our men out of our lives. I'm like, I
• 45:22
  don't think you are, because you're probably still using the buildings that they built,
• 45:28
  the electricity that they make sure gets to your house, the heating,
• 45:31
  the plumbing, all of that is almost entirely provided for by men. Yeah,
• 45:38
  okay, And the taxes that go into paying for the social services that
• 45:45
  you pull yep. Entirely provided for by men. So all all of the
• 45:50
  comforts that you enjoy are a result of men's labor to some degree, you
• 45:57
  know. And yes, men get monetary compensation for that, probably not as
• 46:01
  much as they should in a fair world. Yeah, Well, then they
• 46:06
  go home and share it with their wives and children, if they have wives
• 46:09
  and children, you know, or or right, they share it with their
• 46:15
  babies and their baby mamas, or they share it with the only fans models
• 46:21
  that they're paying for, or they share it will their mother. You know.
• 46:24
  Like, I know a guy, he's in his like he's in his
• 46:28
  early sixties, he's close to retirement, and he makes good money, and
• 46:34
  he lives with his mom, not because um, not because he lives in
• 46:39
  his mother's basement, but because his mother needs care. Yeah, and he's
• 46:45
  never had he's never had a long term relationship with a woman, he's never
• 46:50
  had kids, and he is and my my best friend growing up. You
• 46:57
  know, he just spent the last eight months executing his dad's will and handling
• 47:05
  all of that, and it's like, well, that's a thankless job.
• 47:07
  And but you know, like, as usually they put that on the oldest
• 47:14
  child, but in this case, they put it on the youngest child.
• 47:17
  And stuck him with the task. And it's because he was the one who
• 47:23
  was he was the only one of the four kids who was always you know,
• 47:30
  taking his parents out for lunch once a week and you know, fix
• 47:35
  and stuff up around the house and helping them out and stuff like that.
• 47:38
  And it's like because you know, he was the one who didn't have a
• 47:44
  wife and kids to take your right to take care of, so he was
• 47:50
  the one who had the time and the energy to take care of his parents,
• 47:54
  right. And it's like you look at you look at all of this
• 47:59
  stuff, and it's like the amount of contribution that men put in, you
• 48:10
  know, just sort of as a group in terms of everything, in terms
• 48:15
  of everything, in terms of earning and sharing the income, the resources with
• 48:20
  their wives, children, maybe parents, all of that, the taxes that
• 48:29
  they pay, the services that they provide, which are often like way more
• 48:35
  than women essential services, and you just you just like, oh, a
• 48:39
  life without men. Yet, like like I said in that speech, if
• 48:45
  men went on strike, if men all men went on strike for three days,
• 48:49
  we'd be three years cleaning up the mess. And guess who'd be doing
• 48:51
  it, man. That's probably why they don't do it. But That was
• 48:55
  a really good point. You know, men do these jobs that provide a
• 49:00
  comfortable living for this woman, and they come home and all they really want
• 49:05
  is that the money made from the jobs providing a comfortable living and paying the
• 49:07
  taxes to provide a comfortable living for women actually make them attractive to a woman.
• 49:14
  That's not entitlement. That is not fucking entitlement. Wanting to be attractive
• 49:17
  is not feeling entitlement. Well, wanting to support others through a voluntary mutual
• 49:29
  contract where both sides benefit, like a marriage, or at least like what
• 49:34
  marriage used to be. Okay, that is not entitlement. That is a
• 49:40
  bargain, That is like negotiation. That is a fair exchange. Right.
• 49:50
  But but extracting a gunpoint, all of this tax money out of men and
• 49:59
  then distribute it to women, you know who they don't even know. These
• 50:05
  men don't even know these women, so that these women can live without having
• 50:08
  to make any kind of voluntary contract with the man. That's a little much.
• 50:15
  M No, that's that's that's just the way it should be. Oh
• 50:20
  yeah, I mean having these arguments with feminists and it's like you're arguing with
• 50:25
  something primal in them which is this belief that they're entitled to me, that
• 50:32
  they are entitled to it. Yeah, it's so funny because when you say
• 50:37
  men shouldn't have to sacrifice, what they hear is men should allow to be
• 50:45
  immoral or deadbeats, or that men should be men are entitled. Like if
• 50:53
  you say something like men shouldn't have to pay anybody else's way, Yeah,
• 51:00
  yidn't have to pay for children that they didn't choose, then they hear men
• 51:05
  are entitled to their own money. You know, they're entitled to women's body.
• 51:08
  It's like, no, give men the same choices that women have born
• 51:13
  up, you know, but you're aren't. You're coming up against this unexamined
• 51:17
  instinct. Yea in women, it's like a real it's it's a real deep
• 51:23
  thing that I see. It's like they feel entitled to men's work. And
• 51:29
  when, of course they do, because that's the way that the species is
• 51:32
  structured. Women wouldn't exist or aren't able to be as independent as other mammals,
• 51:38
  so they rely on men's activities in order to survive. So they have
• 51:44
  an instinct to rely on them, and they're complete and there's just no sense
• 51:49
  that a fairness there at all. Well, no longer. I mean there
• 51:54
  used to be. There used to be a real sense of give and take
• 52:00
  because women, women actually were providing something like, yeah, well, the
• 52:02
  way that men were providing heating and lighting and all this other stuff, women
• 52:07
  were providing it like three centuries ago. Yeah, well, and in the
• 52:12
  way, in the way that you know, women in a marriage, you
• 52:16
  know, women and men both had to actually work, they both actually had
• 52:22
  to provide each other with services and provide the children with necessary resources and services.
• 52:31
  And when you're you're looking at it now, it's it's kind of like,
• 52:37
  well, everything's money now, and it didn't used to be that way.
• 52:43
  Women. Money was always a thing, but so much of what went
• 52:49
  on within the sort of the economics of a family was was basically barter.
• 52:57
  It was trade. It was barter, it it was this for that not
• 53:02
  necessarily money. There was money always involved, but it wasn't you know,
• 53:07
  it wasn't like, oh, he earns the money and then she pays like
• 53:12
  a maid to come in once a week and do the cleaning so that she
• 53:16
  doesn't have to or whatever, or he earns the money and then she divorces
• 53:23
  him and sits on her ass and just collects right like she had. Like,
• 53:30
  this is one of the things that I find the most interesting is like,
• 53:35
  and I used to say this occasionally to people, you know, like,
• 53:39
  if she decided she didn't want to be married to him anymore, okay,
• 53:45
  and she divorced him, why the hell is he still paying her?
• 53:50
  Is she cleaning his house? Is she cooking his meals? Is she sucking
• 53:53
  his dick? If not, right, then why the hell is he paying
• 54:00
  her? Like he's getting nothing in exchange. Well, you don't understand,
• 54:09
  Karen. Rich women who have men who can pay for them to sit at
• 54:14
  home, m deserve to continue to sit at home. Hey, my woman
• 54:19
  and who have to work. My husband isn't rich. Yeah, but women
• 54:24
  who have to work, well this is what I'm getting. Okay. But
• 54:28
  women who have to work, you know, they can just continue to work.
• 54:31
  Yeah, well yeah, but they don't. They don't, right.
• 54:36
  They either quit when they're married and then get the alimony, or they or
• 54:42
  they fake an injury or some shit. I knew a guy who was like,
• 54:47
  who's locked into seventeen years of paying alimony because she was just like,
• 54:53
  oh, no, I have a disability. I have Crown's disease, and
• 54:58
  it's like, take some fucking take some goddamn steroids and get over it.
• 55:06
  Get over yourself. You're an accountant. You could freaking do that work on
• 55:10
  the toilet if you have Crohn's disease. Yeah, just apply for the disability
• 55:22
  benefit and get on with your life. Oh yeah, no, my my
• 55:25
  husband. Actually we were looking into a disability pension for him for a while
• 55:30
  there. But or even just a benefit like you can I'm pretty sure there's
• 55:34
  like a tax right off even if you make money. Yeah, but I
• 55:37
  mean like a disability pension. Like we were looking into it because there was
• 55:42
  a while there when he was really sick and and it was looking like maybe
• 55:45
  because he didn't have a diagnosis, we didn't know what was wrong with him.
• 55:49
  It was like, maybe he's never going to be able to work,
• 55:52
  and so we looked into it. And yes, you can make five hundred
• 55:57
  dollars a month while earning a disability pension, or like I think it's five
• 56:00
  thousand dollars a year while making a disability pensioning while pulling one in Canada before
• 56:06
  they start deducting it off of your disability checks. Still wouldn't be like a
• 56:10
  great income. But it was just lucky that that he had me because I
• 56:20
  was the one who diagnosed him. And then once I did that, the
• 56:22
  hematologists was like, oh fuck, yeah, no, that's what he's got
• 56:25
  and gave him some drugs and now he's like earning good money. But we're
• 56:31
  not rich. Okay, let's keep going. Oh all right, we're doing
• 56:37
  this. Okay, Yeah, I got another super chow on a super chat,
• 56:43
  so I'm going to read them really quick. Bowl of rice that you
• 56:45
  won't choke on? Gives us five dollars super chow and says, Hi,
• 56:49
  Karen, long time to see you want to take a bite of me?
• 56:51
  Now, I guess bowl of rice you won't choke on. I'm a changed
• 56:54
  green, give me a second chance that bygones, begons. Oh really really
• 57:00
  you're bas Maddie. No thanks, yeah, yeah, thank you. Thanks.
• 57:05
  You can't spend thirty six hours lying with your cheek on the freaking toilet
• 57:13
  seat, puking every twenty minutes while seven months pregnant because you and and every
• 57:20
  single vomit is just more and more. Bez, Maddie Rice coming back out?
• 57:25
  Um and then ever want to eat bes Maddie Rice again, it's just
• 57:30
  not happening. I didn't choke on it. I just projectile vomited it for
• 57:37
  like hours. Okay, well have heavily pregnant. So we have finally found
• 57:44
  the thing that makes me want to go back to this woman. So let
• 57:46
  us do that. I gotta I gotta a super chat from back to the
• 57:52
  lab who gives us fifty pounds? Thank you. Um, he's got a
• 57:58
  nice thing. It's not so bad singing and the playing and the shaking of
• 58:01
  the Turkish and uh, back to that that gives us fifty pounds, says
• 58:07
  sub Badger peeps. I missed the fundraiser. I think it was yesterday.
• 58:10
  Can't watch the stream today, just dropping by to give support. So okay,
• 58:16
  if you want to watch the stream afterwards, you can get the unlisted
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  um stream through our discord. But you do have to get a subscription to
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  support. Actually, you might be able to get to the stream just by
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  joining a Yeah. I mean, if you just wanted to support, but
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  feed the Badger dot com forward slash support and you can just do that instead
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  you don't, actually, yeah we don't. We don't need to do it
• 58:44
  through the ungrateful. But you know that YouTube takes fifty percent of that.
• 58:51
  Yeah, they take like half the super chat. So if you give money
• 58:52
  through through the super chat, you just you're giving a lot of money to
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  YouTube. So you know, so please consider going to feed the Badger dot
• 59:00
  com justice unless you want YouTube to have your money. All right, back
• 59:07
  to the video, all right. I care about these issues because I care
• 59:09
  about them, and I think the family is a microcosm for society. I
• 59:14
  look at my family in my own life, and I can't help but think
• 59:15
  what our society might look like if it were filled with men like those in
• 59:17
  my family. And while there are always elements of self responsibility that must be
• 59:21
  emphasized when it comes to these matters, anyone who cares about liberty should care
• 59:24
  deeply if the state is putting policies into place that hurt people, especially when
• 59:28
  those policies disproportionately hurt one group of people more than others. Additionally, it's
• 59:31
  important that as libertarians we keep something in mind when we discuss societal problems.
• 59:35
  We do not have to call for state solutions. But that doesn't mean we
• 59:37
  should just ignore these problems or have no solutions for them at all. Okay,
• 59:43
  this is just for the banana. This is pretty generic. I mean,
• 59:46
  like, if you think there are injustices happening to men and there and
• 59:52
  there, and it's institutional and it's legal and it's political, and feminists are
• 1:00:00
  the ones pushing for it, why are you calling yourself a feminist? Why
• 1:00:06
  why is that label so important? What do you what are you running cover
• 1:00:09
  for? Yeah? I don't think she thinks feminists are doing it or something.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah, I mean the idea that men sacrifice for the rest of society
• 1:00:21
  is very much ingrained, and it's not just feminist to push it. It's
• 1:00:23
  just feminists who've constructed this quasi scientific rationale for it. Well yeah, I
• 1:00:29
  mean like the okay, so like the sacrifice and the risk taking and the
• 1:00:35
  dangerous jobs and those things that feminists didn't do that but what they but what
• 1:00:39
  they did do is create the Duluth model. What they did do was construct
• 1:00:45
  the you know, these theories, these theories or conjectures around things like patriarchy
• 1:00:50
  and rape culture and objectification and sexual harassment, um, and those things hurt
• 1:00:55
  men, right, those like if a woman decides to just ruin a man's
• 1:01:00
  life, she could just like accuse him of sexual harassment at the workplace,
• 1:01:05
  and then human resources, which is run by feminists, sweeps in and basically
• 1:01:08
  like fires him or docks him or whatever, but hurts him. And those
• 1:01:15
  are problems that men that are in a system, whether that is the workplace
• 1:01:20
  or through unions or through the government. So I'm well, that's what I
• 1:01:23
  mean. Divorce, child custody, false rape allegations, like you know,
• 1:01:30
  obesity and fitness and health. That's all important to individual men, but it's
• 1:01:36
  not something that can be addressed at the political level. You notice that she's
• 1:01:40
  like, she is emitting stuff, Like most of the stuff that she's emitting
• 1:01:45
  is how the system is hurting men on behalf of women, Yeah, behalf
• 1:01:49
  of women exactly. And if you cannot acknowledge that this is happening, how
• 1:01:54
  can you help men? Yeah? All right, but let's let's keep going.
• 1:02:00
  All right kind of ideology would that be not a very good one and
• 1:02:02
  certainly not one that would track to many people. Life is hard. Get
• 1:02:06
  a helmet, that's a catchphrase. It isn't a political ideology if we want
• 1:02:08
  people to be worried, Yes it is. Yes, No, that's the
• 1:02:12
  libertarianism is no, not hurt, get a helmet, Like what the fuck?
• 1:02:22
  Yeah? What? Oh good? No, it's libertarianism is life is
• 1:02:30
  hard, get a helmet and a gun. Yeah, especially a gun.
• 1:02:36
  No step game, which usually does not involve traditional government solutions. We need
• 1:02:43
  to be able to show that there are better free market solutions to these problems.
• 1:02:45
  Anything less than that is a lazy ideology and what I like to call
• 1:02:49
  bad capitalism. You should care about people when they're hurting. You should especially
• 1:02:52
  care when the government is hurting people in your name and with your resources.
• 1:02:57
  Yeah, like movement, get to hurt men? Oh my god. You
• 1:03:05
  know. There was one time I was reading like just um, which is
• 1:03:08
  comments to a feminist article, and one comment this was a while back when
• 1:03:13
  when some of the mainstream outlets still had comments, and there was a woman
• 1:03:21
  who put this really succinctly. What has the feminist movement ever given woman women
• 1:03:25
  except the ability to hurt the men in their lives? Yeah, you know,
• 1:03:30
  and that's like, why are you advocating it for that? It's literally
• 1:03:38
  a way of looking at the world that just assumes male sacrifice and denies it
• 1:03:46
  at the same time, which is astanding. Like feminist will tell men,
• 1:03:51
  We'll tell the men men, you don't care about women, so you better
• 1:03:55
  show me you care about women. How does that make sense in any universe?
• 1:04:00
  That's why they can't answer my question. When do you think men cared
• 1:04:03
  about women? Most feminists can't. Some feminists just say they never did.
• 1:04:06
  And I'm like, okay, well, your your entire movement is worthless then,
• 1:04:12
  um, like, is not gonna get anywhere. You think that nagging
• 1:04:15
  men is going to make men care about women when women being their mothers and
• 1:04:19
  daughters and wives and sisters didn't. Yeah, And I'm like, oh no,
• 1:04:25
  what the what men really need to care about women is politicized nagging that'll
• 1:04:29
  do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay no.
• 1:04:32
  Um but anyway, so feminism assumes that care that men have while denying
• 1:04:42
  it exists, and uses it to create these awful lies about men that influence
• 1:04:49
  policies that lead to things like men being more arrest likely to be arrested than
• 1:04:55
  their female abuser. Like that, there's a direct line here. Yeah,
• 1:05:00
  so you say I'm a feminist libertarian. But oh but I don't. I
• 1:05:10
  don't think she's a libertarian at all. Like the whole oh, life is
• 1:05:14
  hard, get a helmet is no way to like, you know, that's
• 1:05:16
  not an ideology, Yes, it is. I mean a very least.
• 1:05:20
  Life is hard. Get a helmet is an ideology. It is a principle.
• 1:05:25
  It's a basic, it's a first principle. Life is hard to get
• 1:05:28
  a helmet. You know, would you rather be a squirrel? M right,
• 1:05:32
  because because they're always constantly worried about being freaking killed and eaton? Yeah,
• 1:05:38
  you know what what makes you so special? Yeah? Also, like,
• 1:05:45
  if we're going to have any kind of government interventions, then feminists really
• 1:05:51
  should just disappear from all of these sociological issues and let the real scientists deal
• 1:05:59
  with them. Yeah, because the honest to god truth is feminism has gotten
• 1:06:04
  its clause into domestic violence, into sexual assault. It's distorted the research,
• 1:06:12
  it has pushed politicized solutions that don't actually help or reduce the rate of any
• 1:06:18
  of this. Yeah. Also, it's also gotten its clause into the welfare
• 1:06:25
  state. Yeah, and there are there are scientists out there dealing with the
• 1:06:30
  actual reasons for crimes and actual and you could say it benefits women financially,
• 1:06:36
  but I don't think it benefits them in other in any other way. Well
• 1:06:41
  said benefits certain women financially. But here's the thing, like, actual scientists
• 1:06:45
  into these these social problems, no what's going on, and can present actual
• 1:06:51
  solutions that could potentially reduce the amount, for example, of women who are
• 1:06:57
  raped. But feminists get in there and say, but we could reduce the
• 1:07:01
  amount of women were raped, or we could pursue things that promote feminism.
• 1:07:09
  There you go, and guess which one wins out. I mean literally,
• 1:07:13
  they look at this stuff and they say, yes, I see that.
• 1:07:15
  I see Oh look at those numbers reducing the rate of women who are raped
• 1:07:19
  by seventy Wow, that's really great numbers. But ye see, your premise
• 1:07:28
  doesn't support feminist conjecture, so I don't think we can do that. Oh
• 1:07:32
  what you're saying is you ran the numbers and supporting feminist conjecture leads to a
• 1:07:36
  seven hundred and fifty percent in Greece and women raped. But you're supporting feminism
• 1:07:44
  And this is only slight hyperbole. Literally, feminists have gotten into these these
• 1:07:50
  these um the research and the the interventions related to rape in particular, and
• 1:07:59
  they sided to divert funds and interest from interventions that would have reduced the rate
• 1:08:04
  of rape. We're likely to have reduced the rate of rape, the psychological
• 1:08:10
  interventions, so therapeutic model. They diverted funds from the therapeutic model, which
• 1:08:15
  didn't support the patriarchy theory model, to their model. Oh yeah, the
• 1:08:19
  cars model here carm so literally, they would rather see more raped women than
• 1:08:28
  less money to feminism, less power to feminism. And yet they are the
• 1:08:31
  ones who apparently are seen as pro woman. Bullshit. You know, they're
• 1:08:38
  pro woman the way that a slaughterhouse is pro cow. Let's put it that
• 1:08:45
  way. Well, slaughterhouses have plenty of room for cows. Yep. They
• 1:08:53
  have plenty of room for women's victimization. Plenty of room, infinite room.
• 1:08:58
  They want lots of it. They want to make sure it's as high as
• 1:09:00
  possible, and it's disgusting. They got to keep numbers up. And then
• 1:09:08
  they turn around and call us grifters because we call out their grift. Yeah
• 1:09:14
  all right, anyways, speaking of grifting, we have a sixties six.
• 1:09:26
  Okay, so I'm gonna thank math freak one, two, three HBr hopefully
• 1:09:30
  not your legal name. For twenty five dollars. That's the only thank you
• 1:09:33
  I have to give, so guys, please make sure to help us out.
• 1:09:38
  Thank you. One of the biggest, one of the biggest black pills
• 1:09:42
  that I realized as a result of the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial actually
• 1:09:46
  going into the financials of feminist organizations that supposedly advocate for DV victims and realizing
• 1:09:54
  that this smacks more of advocacy for making big, big, big bucks.
• 1:10:00
  And I realized that I honestly it's entirely possible that there are more people in
• 1:10:09
  the world that genuinely care about men than genuinely care about women, at least
• 1:10:14
  in these in these industries. That is actually a very thought. I mean,
• 1:10:18
  men's rights activists may not really have a lot of financial support, but
• 1:10:24
  by how do we do fucking care about men? Um Whereas I'm looking at
• 1:10:29
  these financials, I'm like, you, guys, don't care about women.
• 1:10:30
  This is just a payday for you. And then looking at what feminists did
• 1:10:35
  to the actual research into domestic violence and sexual assault and diverting funds away from
• 1:10:42
  things that could have helped people to things that supported their their brand of nepotism.
• 1:10:47
  You know that. It's like, holy shit, they don't give a
• 1:10:53
  fuck about anyone. It's it's astounding. And they're basically using they're using other
• 1:11:05
  women and why not. You know, like it's not like women throughout history
• 1:11:09
  have ever really had a true sense of sisterhood. It seems they're basically using
• 1:11:15
  other women's victimhood in order to make them give themselves power and money. Sure,
• 1:11:19
  it's like feminism is just populated by a million Patrese coolers. M.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah, okay, all right, let's keep going. Yeah, and if
• 1:11:32
  they don't even help women, how can we ever expect them to give a
• 1:11:35
  fuck or help men? Well, we can't. We have to. We
• 1:11:40
  have to do it ourselves. Okay, let's continue, Yeah, Davy says,
• 1:11:45
  look at feminism like Black Lives matter. The head's got all the money.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah, we're gonna talk about that tomorrow. You're it's it's it's amazing,
• 1:11:54
  it's amazing, you know it's really Honestly, at this point in my
• 1:11:58
  journey, I think that helping men, like when you help men, what
• 1:12:02
  men do is they turn around and they help women almost invariably. So anybody
• 1:12:09
  who's trying is supposedly helping women directly, it seems more likely that they're helping
• 1:12:14
  themselves. That makes sense. Yeah, all right, let's keep going.
• 1:12:18
  All right, let's continue. And you should also recognize that hurt people,
• 1:12:24
  hurt people. The growth of the alt right and some of these hate groups
• 1:12:26
  within the men's rights movement is evidence of that. The fact that single white
• 1:12:30
  men are the most likely democrates. Wait wait, wait did she did she
• 1:12:32
  say that? The alt right? Yeah? Right, and some of these
• 1:12:40
  hate groups within the men's rights movement. Yes, see what I mean,
• 1:12:45
  Like this is a fucking protection racket. They're like, oh, we're gonna
• 1:12:48
  call you all of these so my services to improve your pr for women.
• 1:12:56
  Oh Jesus Christ. It's like, oh, there's a ven diagram and there's
• 1:13:00
  some places where the circles over Oh no, the circles overlapped. Oh you
• 1:13:06
  know. Hitler was a vegetarian and and uh he was for like kind treatment
• 1:13:15
  for animals, he was against cruelty to animals, and he was for universal
• 1:13:21
  state funded healthcare. You fucking then diagram, Fox, Look who are all
• 1:13:31
  Hitler? I don't I don't know like what level or degree of overlap there
• 1:13:40
  could be between the all right and the men's quote all right, end quote
• 1:13:45
  whatever the fuck that means, and the men's rights movement. But I'm sure
• 1:13:49
  there's some sure, but wait a minute. But wait a minute. But
• 1:13:54
  but what I'm saying is is there even if they're like white national lists or
• 1:14:00
  alt right or gropers or whatever. But if they're saying like the same correct
• 1:14:06
  talking points, the MRAs are saying, what the fuck is the problem?
• 1:14:11
  Like if there's like a I don't care if he's like in the swamp with
• 1:14:15
  a banjo and a shotgun driving away black folks. If he says, well,
• 1:14:18
  you know, the suicide rate for men is really high. That doesn't
• 1:14:21
  like those other things, don't make that statement untrue. Okay, So you
• 1:14:28
  can't delegitimize something just because someone you don't like said it, because it's true
• 1:14:33
  or it's not true, you can't. You also can't associate one group's entire
• 1:14:40
  zeitgeist with another group's entire zeitgeist just because they agree on a couple of things
• 1:14:46
  that are objectively true. Yeah, the sky is blue. Oh, the
• 1:14:50
  alt right thinks that the sky is blue too. Well, I guess we're
• 1:14:57
  all right now, Yeah, I guess. I mean that's kind of like,
• 1:15:00
  what what's the point, So, like that being the case, what
• 1:15:03
  is the point of her making this statement? What is the point of making
• 1:15:09
  this comparison if not to just delegitimize the men's movement, like flat out guilt
• 1:15:15
  by association. Yeah, it is such a freaking it's it's all over the
• 1:15:20
  place, and it's like, no, you know what, I can I
• 1:15:25
  can admit that Anna Casparian was right this last week. Okay, I can't
• 1:15:31
  stand that bitch. I can't stand her. But you know, when she's
• 1:15:36
  right, she's right. Destiny can't stand it. Right, but when he's
• 1:15:42
  right, he's right. And even even freaking uh Rocana and some of these
• 1:15:50
  these other like left wing even AOC. Sometimes sometimes she accidentally says something that's
• 1:16:00
  right, and I'm like, well, good on her, she said something's
• 1:16:02
  right. I agree. That doesn't mean that that that that we share a
• 1:16:10
  worldview, just means she got something right for a fucking emotional way to say
• 1:16:16
  that, that's all she knows it'll like make people real and like cringe.
• 1:16:23
  Is she all she's doing is she's just laying the groundwork for why she's needed.
• 1:16:27
  Yes, Okay, which is she's not needed. You know what we
• 1:16:30
  need to do there are okay, we need we need to get we need
• 1:16:38
  to get her one of those fruit bouquets. Okay, all right, get
• 1:16:44
  her a fruit bouquet and a card saying please be our leader, we are
• 1:16:49
  MRA's okay, and and just send it to her house. All right.
• 1:16:56
  Here's here's my question. Okay, I think that HBr might be one of
• 1:17:01
  the most success like financially successful men's issues organizations. And I say that because
• 1:17:08
  that would suggest that what we say is if there is a mainstream for the
• 1:17:13
  main men's issues crowd that we are solidly within it is that would that be
• 1:17:19
  an acceptable statement? No? No, okay, no, no. Do
• 1:17:27
  you have a New York Times best selling novel on men's issue or not novel
• 1:17:30
  but a book on men's issues? Okay, But now we're talking about the
• 1:17:34
  groups that she thinks has some kind of hate movement within it or hate Oh
• 1:17:39
  no, like rushmis sold like a ton of books, and like you know,
• 1:17:45
  he's not a men's issues he doesn't do men's issues. He doesn't say
• 1:17:50
  she's lumping them all in with us, right, and all of all of
• 1:17:56
  these other side projects, right, that are part of the manisphere, right,
• 1:18:00
  pickup artists, you know, red pillars, traditionalists, all writers,
• 1:18:08
  if you want to like lump them in with us, right, all of
• 1:18:11
  these people are way more successful with us in terms of like just raking in
• 1:18:15
  money. Like yes, this because this our grif does not sell. No,
• 1:18:21
  it doesn't, because it's it's about selling people. You got to do
• 1:18:26
  the work right and right now, and selling people something that doesn't taste good.
• 1:18:32
  Yeah, it doesn't. Well, I mean look at look at the
• 1:18:34
  pickup artists and the red pillars. You know, if you if you follow
• 1:18:38
  this, you'll get a woman. What's our message? If you follow this,
• 1:18:42
  you'll you'll have appropriate boundaries, you know, and not particularly want the
• 1:18:46
  women that are very necessarily available, who are going to treat your identity with
• 1:18:50
  contempt. And it's a completely different message. No, And the message too
• 1:18:56
  is I think I think what we talk about off is and I mean,
• 1:19:02
  like I'm gonna sound like hoity toity or something saying this, but I think
• 1:19:09
  that a lot of people can't really understand well, yeah, because they're at
• 1:19:14
  the level and it's not it's not no because they just don't know it's no.
• 1:19:19
  Because this is not easy stuff to not dead. Well, it's in
• 1:19:26
  direct it's in direct contradiction to people, to people's people's and women ell them
• 1:19:31
  one thing. Women want to feel like they're being taken care of and men
• 1:19:39
  want to take care of women. Yes, And it's as simple as that.
• 1:19:44
  And it is absolute bullshit to say otherwise. And um, what we
• 1:19:48
  can do is we can say, Okay, these are the instincts, don't
• 1:19:53
  lie about them, don't embrace shit like feminism. But then feminism itself appeals
• 1:19:58
  to a certain independent, like a certain individuality in men. They want to
• 1:20:03
  be the one good man, the only good man, one good women,
• 1:20:08
  who was taking care of women through who was the one good man taking care
• 1:20:12
  of women? Okay, it's why that one sentiment is why when you look
• 1:20:16
  at the jubilee video, I don't think we went through it. We went
• 1:20:19
  through part of it with you, Karen. When you look at the jubilee,
• 1:20:23
  it was a previous jubilee. When you look at that video and you
• 1:20:26
  actually look at the behavior of the two groups of men, the anti feminist
• 1:20:30
  men and the feminist men, the feminist men are there were like three of
• 1:20:34
  them that I remember very distinctly one was one percent certain that he was the
• 1:20:41
  one good man and that he was the only man ever who cared about women.
• 1:20:45
  So all his individual merit that gave him the right to be accepted,
• 1:20:51
  and he was the one he was going to save all the women, you
• 1:20:55
  know, because of his pure individual heroic might at the terrible forces of masculinity.
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  And the other dude was like, I'm the I'm the guy. I'm
• 1:21:04
  the junkyard dog that protects my women. And the other one was like,
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  yeah, look at look at all of my merit badges of the types of
• 1:21:13
  women that I have appealed to. Look at them. Aren't they beautiful?
• 1:21:15
  They're wonderful. I'm I'm a really great man. Look at all of these
• 1:21:18
  merit badges of the men of the women I've I've collected. And then on
• 1:21:23
  the other side were the anti feminist men, quote unquote, who are like,
• 1:21:27
  you know, I think that men have problems and they should be able
• 1:21:29
  to talk to each other and support each other and work together and the way
• 1:21:32
  that men do and have their own you know, like places to do that,
• 1:21:36
  and it's really important for men to support each other. And it was
• 1:21:41
  like night and fucking day. Oh yeah, how the feminist men were one
• 1:21:46
  hundred and fifty percent, this kind of toxic competition for between men and the
• 1:21:53
  anti feminist men were like one hundred and fifty percent. Men need to support
• 1:21:57
  each other night and fucking day. Feminism appeals to men more than what we
• 1:22:02
  say does, because it appeals to that desire to be the one good man,
• 1:22:06
  the only one that deserves all the women. And so we're fighting against
• 1:22:13
  that too anyway. Yeah, and that's that's instinct, That is pure instinct.
• 1:22:19
  Men want to feel like their individual merit has earned them the right to
• 1:22:25
  be adored by women. And um, you can see that even in pick
• 1:22:29
  up artistry in the Red Pill, except that they replace this kind of fawning
• 1:22:33
  um obsequies and bullshiti simping with you know, be the be in charge,
• 1:22:40
  lead where and then she'll want to follow, etc. Yeah, and I
• 1:22:45
  think that what we do is something very different, and it's even recognizing that
• 1:22:49
  seems to turn people off. Yeah, it's it really leaves a bad taste
• 1:22:56
  in people's mouths, which I don't know how to get over. Like,
• 1:23:00
  there's no way to make this cast her oil taste good. So you just
• 1:23:04
  fucking take it. Take your buckleys. You'll feel better. Yeah, okay,
• 1:23:11
  all right, you want to get more done to you, let's do
• 1:23:13
  it. Is evidence of that. The fact that single white men are the
• 1:23:16
  most likely demographic to be a mass murderer shows that the fact that men make
• 1:23:19
  up the middle They wait, yeah, how are you defining mass murderer?
• 1:23:24
  Though? You know you don't get to just throw that out there. Well,
• 1:23:29
  and she's not even saying where, because I'm pretty sure in like Afghanistan,
• 1:23:34
  single white men are not the most prevalent mass murderers. But um,
• 1:23:41
  but uh no, if I recall in terms of mass murders and when you
• 1:23:48
  adjust for like population demographics, you know, like percentages, right and raids,
• 1:23:58
  Uh, it's it's Asians Asian men. Sure, they don't break that
• 1:24:03
  down by like what kind East Asian, South, Asian Middle East? So
• 1:24:10
  they just love it all together. Yeah, they love them all together.
• 1:24:13
  But it's like, yeah, no, it's it's Asian Asian men. Yeah,
• 1:24:19
  it's not really useful. But but then you know again it's like why
• 1:24:25
  are you, Like how is what? Why are you why are you framing
• 1:24:28
  things like this? Like you know, what what do you mean white men?
• 1:24:31
  Like does an Irish guy count as an Italian count. Does a Spanish
• 1:24:35
  guy count do do? Uh? In Indians? They're they're Caucasiana. You
• 1:24:43
  know, like this is like just bad bad language shit. Be be clear.
• 1:24:48
  And also what what does that mean? Does that mean that um what
• 1:24:54
  like white white men should only get help because otherwise they're going to be dangerous
• 1:24:58
  to women? What maybe should do it for their own sake? Okay,
• 1:25:02
  let me give you some perspective to this bullshit. Women are When I ran
• 1:25:08
  the numbers, women are something like two hundred times more likely to be saved
• 1:25:12
  by a man and then shot by one. Yeah. I think it's actually
• 1:25:16
  even higher because I was just looking at fire fighters okay, yeah, and
• 1:25:21
  how many lives they save annually, and how many of them are are men.
• 1:25:27
  I even took I even subtracted the number of firefighters that are women.
• 1:25:30
  But I don't think that actually women are proportionately responsible for saving as many lives.
• 1:25:36
  What I mean is that there may be five percent of women firefighters,
• 1:25:40
  but I doubt they're responsible for five percent of the lives saved. So but
• 1:25:45
  I did a straight subtraction, so you're looking at it was either two hundred
• 1:25:48
  or it was some two hundred and two thousand and seven hundred times more likely
• 1:25:54
  to be saved by a man just from a fire as a woman than you
• 1:25:58
  are to be shot by one and twenty men shoot themselves before one man kills
• 1:26:02
  another person. Okay, and what are you choosing to focus on, lady?
• 1:26:08
  Yeah, right here, I want you to shut up and say I
• 1:26:15
  am not in position to comment on these issues. I am ideologically possessed.
• 1:26:24
  And now I will take myself from the stage and go do something else because
• 1:26:29
  you you are you have an agenda when you talk about this. And the
• 1:26:35
  other thing is is that men who engage in violence are so distinct from normal
• 1:26:42
  men. Not not No, I'm not talking about um soldiers or policemen who
• 1:26:46
  engage in altruistic punishment yea sol or situational violence, right yeah, situational violence
• 1:26:56
  too to protect people. I'm not talking about that, oh I'm talk or
• 1:27:00
  just to protect yourself or like even you get into an argument, you know,
• 1:27:03
  and there's some shoving or whatever going on, but you know, like
• 1:27:10
  the people who actually like unprovoked, yeah, they have. They are a
• 1:27:16
  subset of men who if you looked at their brain, the impulse control parts
• 1:27:25
  of their brain haven't attained an adult level of maturity, so they aren't even
• 1:27:30
  really men in a sense. Yeah, because they haven't attained an adult male
• 1:27:38
  level of impulse control. So you are you are lumping a damaged subset of
• 1:27:45
  men in saying that they are anything anything to say about the vast majority of
• 1:27:53
  men, And guess what they don't. You don't get once you bring this
• 1:27:58
  shit up in the context of men's issues. You yeah, no, no,
• 1:28:00
  Pascal, go directly to jail. You have nothing to say if you
• 1:28:03
  bring this shit up and say this has some some relation to the issues of
• 1:28:09
  men and the fact that the vast majority of men's actions on this earth is
• 1:28:14
  to provide a comfortable and safe living existence for women. That is the vast
• 1:28:19
  that is the vast sum total of men's actions. You don't get to look
• 1:28:25
  at the minority of men and say they say anything about men at all except
• 1:28:30
  maybe we need certain kinds of interventions in their case to to ameliorate the problems
• 1:28:36
  that they create. But anyway, right away, who write to jail right
• 1:28:44
  away, this is a good boundary though, you know, we were talking
• 1:28:49
  about men's putting boundaries up. The instant a woman starts talking about this shit
• 1:28:55
  as if that women in general have to take responsibility for the tiny minority of
• 1:28:59
  crim men with brain damage who are usually also abused. Okay, no,
• 1:29:05
  you now, as a man, she ceases to make sense to you,
• 1:29:11
  and her voice is replaced by them. You remember from like um peanuts.
• 1:29:21
  Yeah, that's that's. Yeah, this this this woman. When you're listening
• 1:29:29
  to a woman like this, it should go like the fact that men make
• 1:29:32
  up a majority of violent criminals. Okay, okay. Thorne, Hill and
• 1:29:44
  Palmer, Right, they wrote a book called A Natural History of Rape,
• 1:29:48
  and they were looking into like the biological bases of sexual violence committed by men,
• 1:29:57
  right, So they were taking an evolutionary psychology approach to it, you
• 1:30:01
  know, like an evolutionary biology approach to it and just looking into it.
• 1:30:06
  And what their goal was was to identify indicators that show up early on in
• 1:30:19
  life. Right, So basically, you have like a twelve year old boy
• 1:30:26
  or a fourteen year old voice is the same thing as like, you know,
• 1:30:30
  oh well, if your kid enjoys like pulling the wings off of flies
• 1:30:33
  and torturing the neighbor's cat, maybe you got something to worry about, right,
• 1:30:38
  okay, and and doing interventions early to prevent them from offending, right,
• 1:30:47
  and not necessarily anything like chemical castration, but like therapy and like working
• 1:30:54
  on the self and all of that stuff. Right. Not telling them that
• 1:30:58
  when they were by their aunt is a good thing. Yeah, that kind
• 1:31:01
  of stuff too, um and so, but they took so much fricking heat
• 1:31:10
  for writing this book right that it was It was just absolutely like every feminist
• 1:31:16
  in the world was like, how dare you? How dare you? Because
• 1:31:21
  looking for the reasons that a thing is happening is exactly the same as justifying
• 1:31:30
  it and making excuses for it. Right, So there's this is this is
• 1:31:36
  like where we're at in terms of dealing with men's problems. If men are
• 1:31:42
  having problems, you're not even allowed to look at why. I wouldn't even
• 1:31:47
  even necessarily. No, but even if they're harming other people, right,
• 1:31:54
  if they have problems that harm other people, you're not allowed to examine why.
• 1:31:59
  And yes, I know you're not going to say rape is not something
• 1:32:01
  that only men do, right, But because this was this book was written
• 1:32:08
  from a perspective of he's here are some reasons why men do it. Here's
• 1:32:12
  some indicators of you know, men who are at risk of ending up this
• 1:32:17
  way blah blah blah, right, ending up doing it. And and here's
• 1:32:24
  how we could maybe look at heading that shit off at the past before it
• 1:32:28
  actually plays out in real life. That was considered making excuses for men.
• 1:32:33
  Now when you have a woman who like strangles her freaking newborn with parathong panties,
• 1:32:42
  right, and throws it over the fence to try and frame the neighbor
• 1:32:45
  for the infanticide, right, and then and then she gets caught, and
• 1:32:49
  then they're like, oh, well, you know, she was like so
• 1:32:54
  ashamed for being an unwed mother, and you know, we need to be
• 1:32:59
  like more a tolerant society, you know, because her family was religious and
• 1:33:06
  they pushed her into it and you know, and that's not making excuses.
• 1:33:12
  That's not making excuses. She was just young, I mean, she didn't
• 1:33:15
  know what to do and she felt trapped and the father just like broke up
• 1:33:19
  with her. And yeah, no, that's making excuses, right, And
• 1:33:28
  but I would never say I would never say those things shouldn't be examined,
• 1:33:33
  right, I would never say, yeah, postpartum depression and postpartum dysphoric disorder
• 1:33:42
  right is not or postpartum psychosis is not real. I would never say that.
• 1:33:51
  I would never say that young women who find themselves pregnant in a deeply
• 1:33:59
  religious house old where you know, and their boyfriend walks away, are not
• 1:34:03
  going to be in an emotionally psychologically desperate situation where they might do something that
• 1:34:13
  they regret. Okay, I'm never going to say that. I'm always going
• 1:34:16
  to say, okay, so I'm I'm looking at the reasons why this happened.
• 1:34:23
  Okay, so that yeah, And I'm never going to say, well,
• 1:34:28
  screw the whole safe haven thing, because if she can't put a helmet
• 1:34:33
  on, you know, life is hard, put on a helmet, right
• 1:34:38
  and just suck it up, right, then you know she doesn't deserve any
• 1:34:43
  sympathy. It's like, oh no, like there is room for human emotion,
• 1:34:48
  and that human empathy in all of those conditions that may have contributed her
• 1:34:57
  to her doing what she did, doesn't mean she shouldn't be held accountable,
• 1:35:01
  right, But but you look for the causes, You look and see if
• 1:35:06
  there's something that you can do to prevent these things from happening. Of course
• 1:35:12
  you do, right, but not We've been Beard but not we've marred,
• 1:35:18
  because for me, I actually find it more horrifying because we is little horrible
• 1:35:26
  none, But listen, listen to what I have to say. I find
• 1:35:28
  it more horrid. It's a lot of places with safe haven laws, but
• 1:35:30
  they still find women who strangle their infants. They give birth and they drown
• 1:35:35
  or strangle or suffocate their infants. And somehow I find that actually more horrifying
• 1:35:41
  than a man flat out raping a woman. Maybe I'm fucking weird, Well
• 1:35:45
  I've known that less sympathetic, Like I find a woman literally strangling the things
• 1:35:49
  she just gave birth to less sympathetic than a man raping a woman. Of
• 1:35:56
  course you do. She brought that thing into the world, right, It's
• 1:36:00
  it's like she should love it, right, that's the natural, so fucking
• 1:36:04
  disturbing. Yes, yes, no, and you should. And then on
• 1:36:10
  top of that, usually not always, but usually after a woman is forced
• 1:36:15
  to have sex against her will or gets dicked when she doesn't want to because
• 1:36:19
  that's now that or when she didn't quite feel like it, or when she
• 1:36:24
  regretted it the next day, okay, because that's all rape now too.
• 1:36:28
  But um, usually the victim is alive afterwards. Yeah, yeah, okay,
• 1:36:38
  so yes, it's it's much more horrified. And and she and she
• 1:36:43
  she had the victim of a rape, at least in terms of teenagers and
• 1:36:48
  adults, had some say, had some say in in the process, in
• 1:36:56
  the in the series of conditions, right that led up to them being in
• 1:37:02
  that position where that could happen to them. That baby was completely innocent,
• 1:37:09
  no choice, right, and that the relative strength is just inconceivable. And
• 1:37:14
  I don't understand, Like I know that I'm probably going to hell for saying
• 1:37:17
  that. But the other thing is is that why are you going on to
• 1:37:21
  help for saying something that's true? Jesus Christ. I want to think about
• 1:37:26
  like a like a man raping a woman for example, Like from my education,
• 1:37:31
  I know that there was some serious shit that happened to him to get
• 1:37:34
  them that point. I don't know what serious shit could happen to a woman
• 1:37:38
  to get her to the point where she thinks strangling her kid is a better
• 1:37:43
  option than walking a couple of blocks and handing it off to the fire department.
• 1:37:47
  Agreed? And how does that? How does that? You know?
• 1:37:51
  How? How how how does that? So? Yeah, maybe I'm gonna
• 1:37:56
  go to hell for saying that. I don't think either is a good thing.
• 1:37:59
  But like I said, I have done a lot of reading about the
• 1:38:04
  process of rape, and that guy has been through literal hell to get to
• 1:38:10
  the point and probably has been told that rape is a gift by a whole
• 1:38:13
  bunch of people when he expressed, you know, my auntie flat out fucked
• 1:38:17
  me when I was five, and people are like, oh, well,
• 1:38:19
  did you give her a thank you gift and some flowers? You know,
• 1:38:25
  there's some serious shit going down there, whereas I'm not sure what the hell
• 1:38:29
  is happening with women and strangling their infants and leaving them in dumpsters, like
• 1:38:34
  yeah, well you know, and and like there's there's such a thing as
• 1:38:38
  recovering from a rape. There's no such thing as recovering from being strangled to
• 1:38:43
  death the day you were born by your own mother, even if you survived
• 1:38:47
  that, it's like, oh, is somebody going to let you know eventually
• 1:38:53
  when you're an adult that your mother tried to strangle you to death and that's
• 1:38:57
  why you have like a mental disability because you were deprived of oxygen while she
• 1:39:03
  was trying to strangle you to death. Like yeah, when you were all
• 1:39:10
  the reason bring with stuff up, like Christ, it's because people constantly take
• 1:39:15
  the actions of the most criminal men and say that they have fuck and all
• 1:39:19
  to do with the behavior and the attitudes of normal men. And I include
• 1:39:26
  men who have gone to war and men who have dealt with horrible things in
• 1:39:30
  the process of being police officers as well. Okay, those are normal men,
• 1:39:34
  yep, dealing with horror, horrific things, and the actions of a
• 1:39:42
  criminal minority have nothing to do with any of them. And I would say
• 1:39:46
  that the actions of women who strangle their infants likely have nothing to do with
• 1:39:51
  normal women as well. But because but because we look at we look at
• 1:39:59
  women as the kind of like gelatinous mass um well of goodness and pitiableness.
• 1:40:09
  Um, okay, stop making weird noise. And but but what we what
• 1:40:19
  we have is a situation where women are going to get lumped in together.
• 1:40:24
  And so it's like it's like, yeah, no, that that young woman
• 1:40:29
  who was facing whatever it was she was facing and did what she did,
• 1:40:33
  well, that could be any woman, Any woman could be in that position.
• 1:40:39
  Alexis stopped. Also, Yes, I succumbed. I succumbed. I
• 1:40:48
  suppose to the jeff Bezos. All right, let's let's try to get like
• 1:40:54
  a couple more minutes in. Okay, okay, yeah, no, ohh,
• 1:41:00
  I'm sorry. I got a rumble rant from somebody, which is pretty
• 1:41:05
  sweet. Thank you for that, and I just want to find something to
• 1:41:11
  play for him. Consider that. Thank you. In Martian, Occupant forty
• 1:41:18
  two gives us twenty dollars and says, I'm sure I have come come clever.
• 1:41:25
  I think some clever comment or equipped to share here. I just can't
• 1:41:28
  think of it. Now here's some money. Thank you for the twenty dollars,
• 1:41:31
  Occupant forty two. That's awesome. Yeah, okay, I mean I
• 1:41:38
  guess that was clever in a way. I mean I was there thirty minutes
• 1:41:41
  of this woman. Well, dude, I don't know. I only got
• 1:41:45
  about I think I got like halfway through, and I was like, oh
• 1:41:47
  my god, it just gets worse, It just gets worse. This is
• 1:41:51
  the guys, This is this this person, this person is claiming to be
• 1:42:00
  a libertarian feminist. If JARNI libertarians in our audience, and I know there
• 1:42:05
  are, I think that it's probably a lot of you guys are leaning they
• 1:42:09
  kind of lean that way. You cannot simp for women like this because I
• 1:42:15
  know that libertarians are like, man, we need to figure out how to
• 1:42:16
  get more women involved. Don't don't do it unless they're like Calamity Jane,
• 1:42:24
  you know, in their masculine mindset, do not do it. So I
• 1:42:31
  just wanted to say there's another angle to this as well. Okay, thirty
• 1:42:35
  fucking minutes on this woman has she given? She's no insights like this is
• 1:42:41
  what's so annoying. Like you know, every so often people will leave a
• 1:42:45
  message, not every so often, and they'll say, Wow, Alison just
• 1:42:47
  frames something in a completely new way. That's cool. That's why I blah
• 1:42:51
  blah blah, or someone else did. And it's like, you listen to
• 1:42:56
  women like this, there's nothing new. No, they're saying what we've been.
• 1:43:01
  All she's basically saying is that that's a really nice libertarian china shop you
• 1:43:05
  have there. It'd be a real shame if someone called it all right,
• 1:43:12
  which I'm doing right now. But you you know, you just just give
• 1:43:15
  me some power and some money, and I can give you some legitimacy and
• 1:43:20
  repel all those accusations of being all right, which you obviously are. If
• 1:43:26
  you aren't employing my services, you know what I mean? That's all this
• 1:43:29
  is. It's like she doesn't have any insight to anything. Yep, well
• 1:43:35
  this is what it is. It's so tedious. Um okay, who's that
• 1:43:40
  guy, Bloody town Hall? Do you remember Bloody town Hall? Karen not
• 1:43:45
  by that name. Um. It was this conversation between feminists and town Bloody
• 1:43:59
  Hall an activist Norman Mailer, who's sort of a little bit of a sketchy
• 1:44:03
  guy, but he said something that was really interesting. He's like when all
• 1:44:09
  and it was in like the seventies. He said, our feminists that are
• 1:44:13
  going to address that life is tremendously boring for the average man. It's does
• 1:44:18
  this woman? Does this woman and atter anything new or novel or insightful?
• 1:44:24
  No, nothing, She's boring as hell except that she's us. What she's
• 1:44:30
  saying is so out not I don't even want to say outrageous. It's just
• 1:44:35
  wrong. No, it's it's banal. It's banal and also sinister. Yeah,
• 1:44:45
  okay, all right, let's keep going, all right, and criminals
• 1:44:48
  and victims shows that. So if we want to actually stop misogyny and sexism
• 1:44:53
  and the growth of the alt right, and other French groups that are praying
• 1:44:55
  on hurting disaffected people. The best thing we can do is start to show
• 1:44:59
  up and shows and hopefully even solutions for the problems. So we got to
• 1:45:03
  stop. So first things first, we got to stop misogyny. That's that's
• 1:45:08
  the primary directive. That's the prime director, guys. That's that's the only
• 1:45:12
  thing that she mentioned really by yeah, no, no, no, it
• 1:45:18
  doesn't matter. Like she's saying, we have to care so that we can
• 1:45:23
  stop the misogyny, but like, can you please point me to the misogyny?
• 1:45:29
  Well? Also, okay, what whatever? So there's misogyny, Okay,
• 1:45:32
  why you think there is? But oh okay, I'm playing Devil's at
• 1:45:40
  the Okay, well pain, So there's misogyny okay, And but there's all
• 1:45:46
  these other problems over here. There's like there's like she she sort of listed
• 1:45:53
  them off, right, there's all these other problems over here. She didn't
• 1:45:56
  attribute them to anything like I don't know, y century or anti whiteism or
• 1:46:03
  you know, or feminism or whatever. Right, Okay, but she she
• 1:46:10
  listed off a bunch of problems, and she's like, if we're ever gonna
• 1:46:14
  do what's right for women and fix the situation for women using the labor of
• 1:46:21
  men. We should probably care about all these other things that are happening to
• 1:46:30
  men for reasons. I have no idea why it's bad framing. Okay,
• 1:46:39
  let's let's but I'm just curious what her solutions are, aside from letting her
• 1:46:43
  to dictate terms so that things well, she said, hopefully even solutions.
• 1:46:47
  Hopefully even solutions. She's not going to offer any Okay, let's keep going,
• 1:46:53
  all right, so let's break down some of the top issues the men's
• 1:46:56
  rights movement is trying to elevate. Oh fuck, we're going to roll overside
• 1:47:00
  and then what for time's sake? Oh you're you're seven minute and twenty seven
• 1:47:05
  second freaking blathering about like bullshit, Right, but now you're just gonna briefly
• 1:47:14
  go through things for time's sake. Right, You're gonna briefly enumerate the issues
• 1:47:18
  for time's sake. This is quite a long because you wouldn't you wouldn't want
• 1:47:25
  to waste any anyone's time. Yeah, yeah, okay, let's go.
• 1:47:31
  Let's let's all right, let's go and do it. And then, really
• 1:47:33
  this is getting interesting. First they elevate the problems with violence against men,
• 1:47:38
  and how overlooked this is in our system. As someone who spent the bulk
• 1:47:41
  of my political career working in criminal jestice form, let me just say yup,
• 1:47:44
  men make up almost eighty percent of all murders worldwide. In the US,
• 1:47:47
  their homicide rate is almost ten times out of females. They're also more
• 1:47:51
  likely to be victims of other crimes too, like jug related crimes and gang
• 1:47:54
  related crimes. All right, okay, pausing to go out and actually you
• 1:48:00
  shit well. Also, criminals preferentially select men as targets for violence, yeah,
• 1:48:06
  bargaining women. So does the military of any country, and so do
• 1:48:12
  yeah, so does everybody. And yeah, it's almost like it's an instinct.
• 1:48:19
  Yeah, I know, it's like the weirdest thing. And though they
• 1:48:24
  experience far lower rates of violence for things like domestic abuse and rape, they
• 1:48:27
  do experience oh fuck off, no Jesus Christ. Yeah. And it is
• 1:48:38
  worth mentioning here that while all rapes and incidents of domestic abuse are severely underreported
• 1:48:43
  and for good reason, because cost don't do anything about them, it's likely
• 1:48:45
  social stigmas make men even less likely to report these incidents to Okay, all
• 1:48:48
  right, all right, we stop right here. Okay, we don't know
• 1:48:53
  how much this happens, but we do know it happens less than women.
• 1:49:01
  Look, and they never square this. I keep pointing it out to them.
• 1:49:05
  Okay, you admit that men experienced stigma in reporting domestic and sexual violence.
• 1:49:13
  Okay, how do you know the relative rates the answers? You don't.
• 1:49:18
  You cannot, You cannot assert those two things at the same time.
• 1:49:23
  You are a stupid person, You're you. You may not be congenitally stupid,
• 1:49:29
  but you have chosen stupidity. Yeah, so you have chosen stupidity,
• 1:49:38
  yes, yeah, yes, or deceit. I mean, she could just
• 1:49:41
  be bullshitting us now. In response to these crime statistics, many will point
• 1:49:45
  out that men are also far more likely to be perpetrators of violence than women,
• 1:49:49
  leading to their involvement and more violence. Thing not really and Rogan argument.
• 1:49:57
  Yeah it is a Joe Rogan argument, but but actually actually out in
• 1:50:03
  the wider world, yes, out on the street, yes, okay,
• 1:50:11
  Women are less likely to perpetrate violence, stranger violence out in the wider world,
• 1:50:17
  right, They are more likely to perpetrate violence against their own children,
• 1:50:23
  against their partners, against their families from general and then yes, that's not
• 1:50:31
  even including the violence by proxy, right, which is you know, like
• 1:50:35
  how I explained it to my nephew David's class, you know, when I
• 1:50:43
  went and gave a speech on men's rights, because he was like, he
• 1:50:48
  asked his teacher, can my aunt come and give a speech on men's rights?
• 1:50:53
  And she was like sure, And so I went. I went in
• 1:50:57
  there and I said, Okay, let's sam. I'm I'm really really really
• 1:51:00
  mad at David, like he's really pissed me off, right because because he's
• 1:51:06
  a total jerk, and uh and I want to hurt him, right,
• 1:51:11
  Okay, So I could, I could. I got three choices, right,
• 1:51:15
  first choices, I can I can, you know, duct tape his
• 1:51:20
  hands behind his back and lock him out in the tool shed and leave him
• 1:51:24
  there to think about what he did wrong for a few days, right,
• 1:51:29
  maybe rough him up a little. Or I could call, uh, you
• 1:51:32
  know, my my brothers over to to do that for me. Or I
• 1:51:38
  could just pick up the phone dial nine one and say he's been hitting me
• 1:51:43
  and they'll do it for me. And all I'm you know, if I
• 1:51:48
  did the other two, I'd be guilty of like kidnapping, involuntary uh sorry,
• 1:51:57
  unlawful restraint, involuntary confined. I meant assault, battery, Okay,
• 1:52:02
  you know, a string of felonies. And then if if I got like
• 1:52:05
  my brothers to do it for me, conspiracy to all of that. But
• 1:52:11
  if I just phone the cops, they'll come and do it for me,
• 1:52:13
  and I'm guilty of technically is lying to police and They're not going to prosecute
• 1:52:19
  me for that because I'm a battered woman, right And yeah, no,
• 1:52:26
  it's so it's it's like you you look at like all of this shit.
• 1:52:31
  No, it's every single false accusation, false accusation of criminal behavior made by
• 1:52:40
  a woman against a man should be recorded as an act of female on male
• 1:52:45
  violence because the cops will come and the cops will will deliver authorized, legally
• 1:53:00
  authorized violence against that man. Yep. So can we continue a little bit
• 1:53:12
  more? Yeah, teck, to make sure I didn't miss any super chats
• 1:53:16
  or super child's really quick. Nope, quiet, Okay, let's do a
• 1:53:21
  little more. This isn't incorrect. Men commit ninety plus percent of murders based
• 1:53:26
  on one global study, and intimate partner violence remains the biggest health threat to
• 1:53:30
  women. But I want to reiterate something I said earlier. Wait, wait,
• 1:53:32
  wait, the biggest health threat to women is intimate intimate partner violence,
• 1:53:39
  cancer, motor vehicle arts disease, heart disease, Uh like obesity. Yeah,
• 1:53:53
  well, do not allow You don't need women like this. They are
• 1:54:01
  all they're gonna do is they're going to use their victimhood to tear the world
• 1:54:04
  apart. Period. Just kick him out. And there's plenty of evidence to
• 1:54:10
  prove that this isn't the case. She's not interested in it. She either
• 1:54:13
  is ignorant of it, which in which case she shouldn't be speaking on these
• 1:54:16
  issues, or she's aware of it and she refuses to allow it to inform
• 1:54:21
  her thinking. I mean, honestly, if she's saying things like, oh
• 1:54:25
  yeah, men are afraid to report, and in the same breath says,
• 1:54:29
  but I really, I am absolutely one hundred percent sure that I know the
• 1:54:33
  reality that I can't possibly know that at that point she is lying to your
• 1:54:40
  face, or she may not be intentionally, but she is able to hold
• 1:54:45
  those two thoughts in their head at once, which means nothing she says is
• 1:54:48
  trustworthy. Yeah, I know what X is. I don't know what why
• 1:54:55
  is? All I know is that X is greater than why? Yep,
• 1:55:00
  But that means that no evidence that will change her beliefs about the relative weights
• 1:55:06
  of X and Y. No evidence. Okay, this and you don't.
• 1:55:12
  You don't need the opinion of women like this. Just stop him at the
• 1:55:15
  door. The thing that is shredding our society apart is these claims of victimhood
• 1:55:25
  that they will not question. They won't look at the counter evidence, They
• 1:55:30
  won't even within two breaths say something that's logically consistent. Yeah, if there's
• 1:55:38
  some kind of there's a block, there's a block or a pressure, like,
• 1:55:44
  you cannot, like, how does one do this? How does one
• 1:55:47
  say the following? I don't know how many men are domestically abused, but
• 1:55:54
  I do know that there are fewer men being domestically abused than women. Much.
• 1:55:59
  You cannot you cannot say these two things. Ye know. It has
• 1:56:04
  to be a lie. You You literally would always pin feminists down on Twitter
• 1:56:11
  with this. You know. Okay, So you say X is greater than
• 1:56:14
  why? Have you measured why? And they're like, well, I've measured
• 1:56:18
  X. Yeah, And you're like, but okay, I'm okay, let's
• 1:56:25
  say that your measure for X is correct, Like, how do you know
• 1:56:29
  that X is greater than why if you haven't measured why X, but I
• 1:56:33
  measured X. Okay, you're not talking to rational being here, Yeah,
• 1:56:38
  yeah, yeah, right there, There is no rationality there, as she
• 1:56:43
  doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. There's now plenty of evidence that
• 1:56:48
  men suffer as much domestic violence and quite likely as much sexual assault. Well
• 1:56:55
  okay, with a significant portion of that sexual assault being done by women.
• 1:57:00
  Yeah, yep, against men, against other women, and against children,
• 1:57:06
  and you md as political points for clout. It's funny that we don't consider
• 1:57:15
  like, because I think this factors into whatever day that there might be,
• 1:57:18
  will be the consideration that an older woman, um, you know, seducing
• 1:57:24
  and molesting an underage boy. Well, that that's not rape, that's a
• 1:57:30
  that's that's an affair, right, that's uh that that's like the oh they
• 1:57:34
  they they had they had a fling, you know, trist Yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:40
  it was a trist Yeah. Or you know, when a woman kills
• 1:57:43
  her child, kills her baby, whether it's in the womb or out,
• 1:57:46
  well, that doesn't count either. Oh, that's just postpartum depression. Oh
• 1:57:50
  well, you know it's it's her body, her body, her choice,
• 1:57:54
  right, So like we've already we've already like cut all kinds of little corner
• 1:58:00
  is here and there, and change the language so that when women do murder,
• 1:58:03
  it doesn't count because it's or because it's an postpartent depression. Yeah no,
• 1:58:11
  and you look at you look at like, oh, well, but
• 1:58:13
  and women women are more likely to commit infanticide or or philicide right, killing
• 1:58:21
  their children. Um, that is just because they spend more time with their
• 1:58:27
  children. And yeah, and and and women women are more likely to abuse
• 1:58:32
  their kids, but only if you consider neglect as abuse. And you know,
• 1:58:36
  these women just they just don't have it in them to look after their
• 1:58:40
  children. When of neglect that women perpetrate on their children is targeted neglect,
• 1:58:48
  They'll have three children that they take care of properly and one child who's targeted,
• 1:58:56
  usually because she doesn't like his dad. Okay, targeted for specific neglect.
• 1:59:03
  Yea. So it's it's like they just ignore women's agency and all of
• 1:59:10
  these things, and it's oh, it just happened. Well yeah, I
• 1:59:14
  mean, you change the meaning of a sudden because of because of circumstances,
• 1:59:18
  because of circumstances and conditions. Yeah, you know, she didn't do it.
• 1:59:25
  She she she was driven to it. Yeah right. But of course
• 1:59:31
  you can't give men the same latitude. No right, We can't even give
• 1:59:36
  men who don't even engage in this stuff the same latitude. Like then,
• 1:59:40
  who would never rape? The vast majority of men who would never no,
• 1:59:44
  no, no, they're they're like in the same group. They're in the
• 1:59:47
  same group. We don't even give them the fucking latitude that we give a
• 1:59:51
  woman who does rape. Oh God, And it's all instinctual. It's not
• 1:59:57
  just feminism. It's like men fix men, fix yourselves. From my years
• 2:00:02
  in criminal justice reform, if I can impart one piece of knowledge to people
• 2:00:05
  about violence, it would be this. The dichotomy that you have in your
• 2:00:08
  mind of victim versus perpetrator rarely exist. They are almost always one and the
• 2:00:13
  same. Because violence is cyclical in nature. Most people are first victims of
• 2:00:16
  violence many times over before they too themselves become violent, and then they are
• 2:00:20
  met with more violence from our system, and no one is ever saved for
• 2:00:24
  for it. If we want to get serious about violence, we have to
• 2:00:26
  get serious about trauma interventions and violence disruptions programs that largely take place outside of
• 2:00:30
  policing and do the real work of stopping cycles of violence. All right,
• 2:00:35
  right, I agree with that, But but she's not bringing up the most
• 2:00:40
  important thing is where that comes from. Like ninety ninety five or ninety eight
• 2:00:46
  percent of men who are incarcerated for violent crimes have a history of abuse as
• 2:00:56
  children from their mothers, and they do not have a father in the home
• 2:01:00
  or they don't know their father. So is that is are you going to
• 2:01:04
  factor that in? Are you going to mention that or are you like totally
• 2:01:10
  cool with all that. She'll she'll probably mention it in order to blame the
• 2:01:15
  fathers for not being there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
• 2:01:18
  There is always a spin, right, there's always a way to like,
• 2:01:24
  we are not going to get out of the mess that we're in until
• 2:01:28
  we hold women accountable. Yeah, single mom control and he And the other
• 2:01:34
  thing is is that you cannot empower anyone by minimizing the consequences of their actions
• 2:01:41
  to themselves and others. That is exact opposite of empowerment. You don't like,
• 2:01:45
  you can be as powerful as you want to be, But if you're
• 2:01:48
  doing it and a void well, and you're affecting nothing, then there is
• 2:01:55
  there. You'll you'll have no perception of any kind of power. Well why
• 2:02:00
  literally? Right? Well, I mean, if you're doing it and avoid
• 2:02:02
  you're not hurting anyone, You're not doing anything. But the thing that gives
• 2:02:08
  us a sense of the importance of our actions is their consequence to ourselves and
• 2:02:14
  eat on others. So you cannot empower women without recognizing the harms that they
• 2:02:23
  are capable of to the same degree that you would recognize those harms if men
• 2:02:28
  did them. Period. Okay, And the fact is that we are trying
• 2:02:33
  to pursue this, we're trying to pursue so called empowering women in a way
• 2:02:41
  that is so incredibly destructive because we're trying to give them more power at the
• 2:02:46
  same time as render and visible the negative consequences of those that power. That
• 2:02:51
  is, and that is literally creating a woodchipper to destroy society. Does anybody
• 2:02:58
  else see what I'm fucking saying. You give a group of people and as
• 2:03:01
  much power, you shove as much power as possible, and make them not
• 2:03:04
  responsible for it. You make it completely unacceptable to recognize. Hey, if
• 2:03:11
  you make the choice to have a child out of wedlock without a father,
• 2:03:15
  you are you're increasing the likelihood of crime. Yeah, you are depriving your
• 2:03:19
  child of something that is the most critical thing for a child to have,
• 2:03:25
  which is a father. Yep, that has to change. Like this woman,
• 2:03:30
  she will not. I don't think she's going to call out the women
• 2:03:33
  who are making babies without fathers because women ultimately make that choice ultimately. Yeah,
• 2:03:42
  and and what we end up with is just an entire society of king
• 2:03:46
  Jeffreys. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So I understood that reference.
• 2:03:56
  But even even that, like if you if you do not recognize the negative
• 2:04:00
  consequences of women's actions, by definition, you are empowering you nothing because we
• 2:04:05
  understand our power through the consequences of our actions. Okay, guys, Yeah,
• 2:04:12
  you gotta go. I gotta go too. Yeah, we we gotta
• 2:04:15
  go. All right, any any last any last minute thank you as you
• 2:04:17
  have to give out. No, no, we're we're okay. So guys,
• 2:04:23
  we sort of slowed down towards the end. We probably won't make If
• 2:04:26
  you do put something through, we may not be able to be able to
• 2:04:29
  thank you. I think that we will be able to do one more of
• 2:04:31
  these before the Yeah, we should probably finish this bitch. We can do
• 2:04:35
  it on Wednesday. We're going to finish this video because we're like only like
• 2:04:40
  a third of the way through it. But well, maybe we'll be a
• 2:04:45
  little quicker once she starts talking about things that are meaningful. Are her other
• 2:04:48
  than she's sloviating? Are her comments closed? No, they're open. That
• 2:04:54
  didn't I tell you when we started the show last time that like somebody,
• 2:04:58
  like a couple of MRAs are in there, you know, trying to correct
• 2:05:01
  her, and she's been either not responded to them or she's been dismissive.
• 2:05:04
  Like one of them said, are you going to talk to Hannah? And
• 2:05:08
  she was like, I don't know who that is and I don't see why
• 2:05:11
  I should care. So I just did oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 2:05:15
  I remember that. Yeah, Okay, Well maybe I'll go and make a
• 2:05:19
  comment, raise some hell. No, I'm not going to raise hell.
• 2:05:26
  I'm just gonna try and you know, give her some some information and insight.
• 2:05:31
  So oh she's harding comments though, or she's right, um, oh
• 2:05:39
  no, she's just replying to some comments. She has to some Yeah,
• 2:05:44
  no, I might I might go in and and just I won't. Oh
• 2:05:49
  but but you you you're not worthy of her, of her company. Yeah,
• 2:05:54
  but I'll try not to be horrible. Okay, you know, I'll
• 2:06:00
  try. I'll try. I'll try to be gentle with her. I think
• 2:06:05
  that a lot of this, in my opinion, a lot of this is
• 2:06:10
  that women don't want to contend with some of the insecurities that they have.
• 2:06:15
  Oh, they definitely know. Yeah, you know, there's there's a That's
• 2:06:18
  why I brought up that whole thing with my mother and the the feminists or
• 2:06:23
  her feminist friends who said that she was a woman who didn't need feminism and
• 2:06:27
  certain circumstances, my mother just didn't have those insecurities. Yeah, you know,
• 2:06:32
  she she said what was she said what she felt needed to be said,
• 2:06:36
  and she did what she felt needed to be done the end, and
• 2:06:42
  um, you know. And it feels like one way you could defeat feminism
• 2:06:47
  is to simply strike at the heart of that insecurity. I think one thing
• 2:06:51
  that makes women's insecurities worse is this whole narrative that that men would ever construct
• 2:06:58
  society for their own benefit at the expensive women. Boy, and why are
• 2:07:02
  you ty sorry? I'm no don't don't don't do Okay, just wait till
• 2:07:09
  after Brian. Yeah, don't get sucked into the social media. No,
• 2:07:13
  no, no no, don't don't do it. Okay, don't do it.
• 2:07:17
  No no no, don't don't do that. I don't want her to
• 2:07:19
  close the comments section before I get to it. Okay, okay, Brian,
• 2:07:25
  don't don't want don't don't do that. Yeah, just just do what
• 2:07:30
  I do. Like on Twitter, sometimes I write something out, why have
• 2:07:33
  you chosen stupidity? You all tram around? Why? Why is your brain
• 2:07:39
  a peach pit covered in fuzz? Why? And then I just like,
• 2:07:43
  I'm not gonna send this because it fell on the floor. Yeah, okay,
• 2:07:48
  all right, So I just want to remind everyone we are doing our
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• 2:07:54
  in this probably on Wednesday, UM, as long as everybody can join up
• 2:07:58
  again on Wednesday, and I can, and we'll try to get past like
• 2:08:03
  the fifteen minute mark. Yeah, I can find the spicier stuff and maybe
• 2:08:09
  we can just jump. Because you, you guys listening to us, you
• 2:08:13
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• 2:08:16
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• 2:08:20
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• 2:08:33
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• 2:08:52
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• 2:09:01
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