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Huddle Up | Outlook for the Rest of the 2025 Season · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to huddle up by the field Total Brooks, Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former Jaguar
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. Shaddrick or you
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Speaker 1: a little latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars huddle up starts
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome into huddle up with Bucky Brooks and Bucky.
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Speaker 2: This is a skeleton day around the Jaguars, uh No.
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Speaker 2: JP Shadrick and amazingly a skeleton staff around the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Not a lot of managing going on around here today, Buck,
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Speaker 2: A lot of Yeah, was already already.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're already on things given holidays, people are already
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Speaker 3: sizing up how they're gonna attack the meals for tomorrow
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Speaker 3: and those things. I get it, you know, I understand
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Speaker 3: what it is. But we're gonna make it work anyway.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be good. We're
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Speaker 2: gonna take a look today at Jaguars, Cardinals, Jaguars Titans
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Speaker 2: coming up Sunday and the AOC South Race, which is
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Speaker 2: interesting for the Jaguars for the first time in a
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Speaker 2: couple of years. So Buck the other day a little ahead,
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Speaker 2: but before we get into the meat of Arizona. Talk
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Speaker 2: about this team very quickly before we go to the
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Speaker 2: first break, and just where you think they are, you.
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Speaker 3: Know what I mean. Look, I'm pleasantly surprised and impressed
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Speaker 3: with this team. I'm really impressed with the leadership of
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Speaker 3: the team, not only the players, but really the coaching staff.
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Speaker 3: I think they do a really good job Liam Coleman
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Speaker 3: and staff of telling the team exactly what it is.
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Speaker 3: And at a time where people like the sugarcoat things,
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Speaker 3: I think their direct, transparent approach really resonates with this
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Speaker 3: group of players. And at the end of the game,
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Speaker 3: I thought it was very telling where you talked about
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Speaker 3: not apologizing for wins, because there's a perception that when
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Speaker 3: you play a team that has a dismal record like
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Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, that you're gonna walk in the stadium
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Speaker 3: and you're gonna hang fifty on them walk out like
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Speaker 3: you see in college. But the NFL doesn't work like that.
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Speaker 3: Most games are decided about eight points of fewer. The
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Speaker 3: league's kind of set up the thing where it's gonna
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Speaker 3: be a fourth quarter fair and you know you can
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Speaker 3: win by one score maybe two at the most but
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Speaker 3: it's rare that you see blowouts, and so in these games,
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Speaker 3: we as fans, we as people with the team, we
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Speaker 3: have to be prepared for these knockdown, drag out battles,
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Speaker 3: regardless of whom you're playing, and I think this was
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Speaker 3: great preparation for some of the other things that are
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Speaker 3: gonna come on the schedule down the line. You just
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Speaker 3: got to get ready to play, and all you want
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Speaker 3: to do is be one point better than the opponent
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Speaker 3: each and every week.
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Speaker 2: All right, Buck, they sent a boy to do a
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Speaker 2: man's job.
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Speaker 3: Today.
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Speaker 2: We're not going to a break obviously, but the first
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Speaker 2: read it's in to reads around here, Bucky. The first
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Speaker 2: all right, all right, we're back on track now. Last
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Speaker 2: look at the Jaguars twenty seven to twenty four victory. Bucky.
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Speaker 2: I thought, as you just mentioned, in the NFL, you
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Speaker 2: build seasons on this sort of a game. You're gonna
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Speaker 2: have a couple of blowouts, and then I've always thought
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have six or seven games that could be
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Speaker 2: decided and go either way. How you fare in those
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Speaker 2: is how your season is going to be perceived. If
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Speaker 2: you're good in those, you're eleven and seven. If you're
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Speaker 2: bad in those, you're six and eleven or eleven and six.
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Speaker 2: What struck you the most about Sunday's game, You know.
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Speaker 3: John, i'ma be honest with you when it comes to
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Speaker 3: those things. Is the reason why we keep track of
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Speaker 3: one score games and what people team's records are in
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Speaker 3: those games, because the league is really decided by the
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Speaker 3: teams that can execute in those high pressure moments when
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Speaker 3: you have to close out games and do this. I
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Speaker 3: think there's a lot of maturity that was displayed from
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars in this game. Look, the stats are till
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Speaker 3: you when you have a minus for turnover differential when
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Speaker 3: you have four turnovers, like, there's only a three percent
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Speaker 3: chance that you can win that game. The fact that
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars were able to overcome that speaks to their
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Speaker 3: character and also speaks to the culture that they've created.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't pretty, but man, it was definitely a gritty effort.
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Speaker 3: Defense stood up and made plays when they needed to.
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Speaker 3: Make The offense was inconsistent for most of the day,
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Speaker 3: but whenever their backs were against the wall, they found
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Speaker 3: ways to make plays and people to talk about maybe
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Speaker 3: their inability to close it out in the fourth fourth
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Speaker 3: down situation, fourth in game over, they couldn't convert, So
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Speaker 3: defense had to go back out there and kind of
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Speaker 3: figure out a way to do what it needed to
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Speaker 3: do to not only in overtime win it, but to
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Speaker 3: just get the dub. Look, man, I think a lesser team,
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Speaker 3: a team without the mental fortitude and toughness, would have
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Speaker 3: given that game away. And look, man, there's been so
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Speaker 3: many versions of Jaguars teams that would have found a
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Speaker 3: way to lose that game. I think this speaks volumes
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Speaker 3: to who the Jaguars are and who they want to
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Speaker 3: be as we get closer to the postseason.
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Speaker 2: Look the storyline obviously, three picks and three interceptions, I mean,
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Speaker 2: and three touchdowns with Trevor, and like, we can get
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Speaker 2: into the stats and the details of the game all
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Speaker 2: you want, I'll talk you about Trevor. Bucky to me,
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Speaker 2: we're spending all this time this season, and understandably so
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Speaker 2: on the flaws and on the interceptions and what he
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Speaker 2: hasn't been. And I guess I've kind of gone back
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Speaker 2: to this in talking on the air about this guy
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Speaker 2: and in writing about it. The good stuff counts to Bucky.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the three touchdowns, the run against Kansas City,
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Speaker 2: the gutty performance against the Raiders when he was sick.
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Speaker 2: You know, everybody keeps telling me, hey, we know what
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Speaker 2: he is and then pointing at the flaws. Well, maybe
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Speaker 2: we know what he is. And the fact that they're
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Speaker 2: beating good teams and laden games, he's coming up with
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Speaker 2: big moments. Doesn't that count?
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Speaker 3: It does count. And look, I'm gonna say this, and
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Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen a maturation from Trevor being
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Speaker 3: on the sideline each week from week one. Interesting Trevor,
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Speaker 3: Like I think one we have to understand that Trevor's
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Speaker 3: had multiple head coaches, multiple offensive coordinators. He is now
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Speaker 3: being encouraged by a head coach who's the offensive play
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Speaker 3: caller to let it rip. And so for someone who
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Speaker 3: likely heard a take care of the ball, ball securities, everything,
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Speaker 3: manage the game. You don't have to force plays, you
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily be the game changer. Liam Cohn is trying
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Speaker 3: to get him to take his game into that game
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Speaker 3: changer category. But to do that, we as fans his teammates,
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Speaker 3: have to live through some of these mistakes while he's
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Speaker 3: learning where those boundaries are. I'm gonna like in Trevor
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Speaker 3: Lawrence too. What I hope he turns into is what
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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford has become. Now. He's not as I would
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Speaker 3: say talented per se as a thrower as Matthew Stafford.
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Speaker 3: But this thing about Matthew Stafford and Detroit, the losses,
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Speaker 3: the turnovers and those things has some moxie, has some gumption,
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Speaker 3: showed a way to finish games off up there. But
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Speaker 3: then when he gets to the Rams and he settles
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Speaker 3: in and he's experienced enough to know when to push
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Speaker 3: the envelope when the dollar back, we have to be
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Speaker 3: patient enough to let Trevor get to that point when
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Speaker 3: he understands this is a game where I need to
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Speaker 3: be in managerial mode. Oh, this is a game where
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Speaker 3: I need to be more game changer. And as he
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Speaker 3: balances that, this team will take on his personality and
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Speaker 3: they will begin to respond to the way that he
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Speaker 3: plays the game from the quarterback position.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the letter rip things. I think that,
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Speaker 2: you know, I didn't. I didn't want to overplay it
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Speaker 2: the week that Liam said it. But I think as
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Speaker 2: we move on from it, we're talking about a really
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Speaker 2: important moment and the way Trevor's referred to a couple
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Speaker 2: of times, the way Liam talked about it on Monday
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Speaker 2: and if he saw it Bucky, but he said, hey,
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Speaker 2: I never lost confidence in Trevor, and I think what
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Speaker 2: you said is really important. They know that there's gonna
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Speaker 2: be some picks in some moments, but what they're trying
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Speaker 2: to do is coach it because they know he has
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Speaker 2: to at some point this year a lot play the
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Speaker 2: way he did late with the pastor Parker up the
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Speaker 2: sidelines and throwing it. I think they know they if
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Speaker 2: they can't get that part out of him, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: matter how safe he is and how few turnovers that
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Speaker 2: he makes. Am I saying that right?
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, is correct. When I was coming up
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Speaker 3: and we used to gamble and play cards, and they
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Speaker 3: used to say, like, he doesn't make any and so
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Speaker 3: the thing is, you can't be scared if you're going
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Speaker 3: to be one of these guys that is a playmaker.
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Speaker 3: I was in Green Bay when Brett fav won three
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Speaker 3: straight MVPs. Now, Brett Favre has a million interceptions on
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Speaker 3: his ledger, but he never can be the magical playmaker
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Speaker 3: if he doesn't take those chances. Trevor has to go
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Speaker 3: through these moments in game. It's almost like John if
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Speaker 3: you're playing golf and your golf bro is trying to
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Speaker 3: teach you how to do something. Well, we can do
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Speaker 3: all this stuff on the driving range, but at some
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Speaker 3: point we got to go play the course and we
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Speaker 3: have to make the mistakes on the course so we
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Speaker 3: can learn how to manage ourselves in game action. Trevor
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Speaker 3: Lawrence is having to do these things, and even though
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Speaker 3: he's a fifth year player, this is his first year
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Speaker 3: under Liam Cohen. I think Liam and the offensive staff
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Speaker 3: knows exactly what it is. Hey, they're gonna be some
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Speaker 3: of these moments, but what I want to see him
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Speaker 3: do is to keen to push through it. And I
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Speaker 3: will say this game more than any other game, because
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Speaker 3: I've talked about it, he made those mistakes, but he
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Speaker 3: never stopped. There have been games this year where we've
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Speaker 3: seen him make turnovers and he dials it back and
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Speaker 3: he plays conservative. To me, this game showed significant growth
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Speaker 3: in his mentality, and that's why I'm excited for the
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Speaker 3: last few games down the stretch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one thing to win despite the turnovers. It's
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Speaker 2: another thing to play better after him. And if you
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Speaker 2: watch the cast out the night, but Peyton was talking
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Speaker 2: about how, you know, he had a game where he
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Speaker 2: through six interceptions and I was there and he never
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Speaker 2: he never blinked, he never stopped. But he said most quarterbacks,
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Speaker 2: he said, man, when they get to three, they don't
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Speaker 2: want to throw four because you know they won't throw
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Speaker 2: the hill Mary at the end of the half. And
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Speaker 2: he was sort of revealing some quarterback stuff there where
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Speaker 2: you know you don't want the stat you know, you
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Speaker 2: don't have to live with that all week. Trevor didn't
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Speaker 2: worry about that the other day that I mean, that
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Speaker 2: was kind of cool.
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Speaker 3: So look, man, I thought it was significant. And I
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Speaker 3: think if you listen to his postgame presser and you
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Speaker 3: match it with how he.
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Speaker 2: Played, I'm not going to play he said it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very confident. John. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: I've ever heard him say that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point to the public.
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Speaker 3: I've never heard him say I'm not gonna play scared.
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Speaker 3: He would talk about a that's on me, this and that,
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Speaker 3: and then there would be this thing like, oh, he
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Speaker 3: needs to dial it back. But for him to boldly proclaim,
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna play scared, I'm gonna let it rip
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Speaker 3: to me, he is doing what his coach asked him
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Speaker 3: to do. Let it rip, because at some point when
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Speaker 3: he lesser rip living with the mistakes and all those
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Speaker 3: other things, he'll dial it back and he'll know when
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Speaker 3: to push it and when the dollar back as he
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Speaker 3: learns how to continue to manage the game and to
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Speaker 3: play winning football at a position.
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Speaker 2: For we move one of the Titans. When I was
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Speaker 2: about the defense the other day, I thought it was
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Speaker 2: another example of what this team's done at the receiver
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Speaker 2: corps a lot and sort of changing on the fly,
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Speaker 2: and significantly we always talk about next man up, but
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Speaker 2: to be moving guys into the lineup and having them
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Speaker 2: play a Christian braswell. The other day Antonio Johnson, who
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Speaker 2: my understanding is hadn't played great at times and played
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Speaker 2: really well the other day. You're seeing guys step up
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Speaker 2: and matter on the fly, and they like to say
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Speaker 2: around here, guys can get better. And I think you're
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Speaker 2: seeing that sum on defense. In the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 3: I want to talk about where both of these guys
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Speaker 3: come from. First Limb and James Glasslan. They come from
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Speaker 3: the Rams. The Rams have been one of the best
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Speaker 3: in the business that playing young players and having young
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Speaker 3: players grow into prominent roles later in the year. One
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Speaker 3: of the things that holds some teams back from being
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Speaker 3: able to get their young players to play well is
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Speaker 3: they're scared to play them. They're scared to put them
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Speaker 3: in the game. When you have injuries, you go cruise
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Speaker 3: the waiver whin I try and find a veteran who
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Speaker 3: is older in declining rather than saying, hey, I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: play the young guys. And once again we talk about
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Speaker 3: living through the mistakes.
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Speaker 2: It's really your have coaches to play young guys, but
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Speaker 2: it's really hard.
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Speaker 3: But you know what you have to do to play them.
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Speaker 3: Don't sign older guys, don't let those guys be options.
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Speaker 3: Force them to play with what you have. So for instance, Braswell,
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Speaker 3: Braswell playing, he gives up a double move late in
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Speaker 3: the game. You know what, John, I gave up that
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Speaker 3: same move when I was a young player because in
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Speaker 3: two minute situations, you don't think about the double move
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Speaker 3: being part of their plan. Well, what I can guarantee
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Speaker 3: you he won't give it up again because now, look
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Speaker 3: the stove is hot. Oh I touched it. Oh it's hot.
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Speaker 3: You only get better and gain expertise through experience. I
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Speaker 3: love what they're doing, but I also like the fact
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Speaker 3: that at halftime being in there Anthony Kipanilli making adjustments,
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Speaker 3: going from being soft zone vision and break to a man,
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Speaker 3: we got to tighten up, We got to pick and
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Speaker 3: choose when to take our chances. We need to get
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Speaker 3: after the quarterback, and they had a different approach in
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Speaker 3: the second half. Look, this is one of a handful
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Speaker 3: of times that I've seen Campaingilly make changes and it's
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Speaker 3: worked out. I really like what this coaching staff be doing,
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Speaker 3: and I'm so positive about how this team is going
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Speaker 3: to finish up because not only are the players the
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Speaker 3: right kind of players, but man, every week my confidence
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Speaker 3: grows in this coaching staff and what they're trying to
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Speaker 3: get across.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's some teams fall apart, and I think Gladstone
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Speaker 2: said it during the off season that you know, good
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Speaker 2: teams building the off season and you build great ones
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Speaker 2: by continuing to build during the season, which you know
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Speaker 2: is acquisition stuff, but it probably means a little bit
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Speaker 2: of what you're talking about that you you know, you
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Speaker 2: grow guys on your roster and you figure it out.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Parker Washington and Jacoby Myers and uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, this is not the receiving core you started
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Speaker 2: the season with, but it's better and I think you're
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Speaker 2: seeing that all around the roster. So all right, we're
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Speaker 2: gonna go to U. We're gonna go to break. Uh
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Speaker 2: look at the Tennessee Titans on Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: I'm John Oser, no JP Shadow. Today it's Thanksgiving and
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Speaker 2: he's giving thanks evidently, so uh, you know you gotta
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Speaker 2: do it. That's what the name says. Look, Bucky, the
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Speaker 2: Titans have made a coaching change, and uh Mike McCoy,
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Speaker 2: who uh was here for three years with Doug. I
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Speaker 2: really like, I don't know that he was dying to
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Speaker 2: be a head coach again, Bucky. I think he would have.
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Speaker 2: I think he'd liked to, but I'm not sure that
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Speaker 2: he was like, you know, groveling to get a job.
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Speaker 2: But I always thought that he could be a good
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Speaker 2: head coach again.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting that the Titans they haven't won,
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Speaker 2: you know, they haven't made a run under Mike, but
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Speaker 2: they're playing well.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: I think they're improving. And my guess is Titans people
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Speaker 2: are probably happy with the job he's doing and right
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Speaker 2: now happy with the way they're playing and fighting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I can't say that I'm happier for somebody
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Speaker 3: than Mike McCory web Now. I don't want them to
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Speaker 3: win this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good guy.
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Speaker 3: I say that Mike, and Mike knows him. But Mike
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Speaker 3: and I go all the way back to playing together
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Speaker 3: in Green Bay A one dude, and look, he was
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Speaker 3: given a difficult, uh circumstance to kind of take over
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Speaker 3: to Titans where they're doing it. But they play hard.
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Speaker 3: The one thing that we always know about that franchise
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Speaker 3: because look, there are rivals, like they're gonna play hard,
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Speaker 3: they have a nastiness about them. They're gonna make the
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Speaker 3: game ugly and they're gonna find a way to be
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Speaker 3: there in the end. I think for the Jags, we
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Speaker 3: understand that going in, we know how they're going to
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Speaker 3: play regardless of their record, and we need to buckle
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Speaker 3: it up because it's gonna be a very, very physical
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Speaker 3: and competitive game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna talk about cam Ward in a later segment,
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Speaker 2: so it won't go too deep into him. Their be
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Speaker 2: up you think of the Titans is being able to run.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like they're a great running team this year.
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Speaker 2: Aside from cam being able to move and starting to
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Speaker 2: make some plays. Where can they hurt you?
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Speaker 3: They can hurt you one. If their defense is playing
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Speaker 3: because they're front seven is as good as any. If
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Speaker 3: they can create turnovers and get a little momentum, this
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Speaker 3: quarterback is good enough to make plays inside and outside
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Speaker 3: the structure of the offense. They haven't been able to
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Speaker 3: get their running game on track, but you know, man,
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Speaker 3: momentum is a funny thing, and if they have some
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Speaker 3: positive things happened early, much like we saw with the
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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals, it's gonna be a long day. So it's
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Speaker 3: not necessarily the talent. I'm gonna say, it's the toughness
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Speaker 3: and to nasty that they can display if we give
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Speaker 3: them a chance early to hang around. We've talked about it,
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Speaker 3: mature teams, championship teams, they find a way to knock
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Speaker 3: these guys out early. We don't want to give them
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Speaker 3: life and to make this game more difficult than it
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Speaker 3: needs to be.
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Speaker 2: Ye, we'll get into their defense in a second. But
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Speaker 2: I thought, Bucky the formula for the Jags on Sunday,
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Speaker 2: it laid out for them in the first half. The
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Speaker 2: other day. You know, they got the quick drive the Jaguars,
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Speaker 2: and that was a game where you were on the
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Speaker 2: verge of sort of playing a quote lesser team into
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Speaker 2: going uphill. You had the seven to nothing lead, and
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Speaker 2: as you said, the turnover with the points for Arizona
17:53
Speaker 2: completely changed that amag of that game. So the Jaguars,
17:56
Speaker 2: We're doing it until a miss block and all of
18:00
Speaker 2: a sudden on the road when you don't get that
18:05
Speaker 2: foot on the throat moment. In this league, it's hard
18:08
Speaker 2: to get two throat on the foot moments. And I
18:10
Speaker 2: thought they missed theirs right there and you got to
18:12
Speaker 2: take advantage of those.
18:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta take advantage of it, particularly when you're
18:15
Speaker 3: on the road, because what happens is the energy from
18:18
Speaker 3: the home crowd can allow the underdog to sustain itself
18:22
Speaker 3: for a little bit. The momentum defeating frenzy. All of
18:24
Speaker 3: those vibes continue when you let them hang around, and
18:28
Speaker 3: now the team and the crowd believes that they can
18:31
Speaker 3: get it done. That's why the best way to start
18:34
Speaker 3: you want to jump on them early. You want to
18:36
Speaker 3: get a two score lead, and you want to be
18:38
Speaker 3: able to start controlling the game. This would be a
18:41
Speaker 3: tought because everyone on the outside will look at their
18:44
Speaker 3: record and say, oh, they're one to ten, they haven't
18:46
Speaker 3: won a lot of games. But you and I know, man,
18:48
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a tough game. It's a division rivalry.
18:50
Speaker 3: Throw the records out. You got to lock in and focus,
18:52
Speaker 3: and the Jacks really have to lock in and bring
18:53
Speaker 3: their best game on Sunday.
18:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a game that worries you because you feel
18:58
Speaker 2: like if they're gonna get it easy quota, you know,
19:03
Speaker 2: which is tough on the road. I think you've got
19:05
Speaker 2: to play well offensively out of the box. And then
19:09
Speaker 2: make something happen against Tennessee in the second quarter, you know,
19:12
Speaker 2: get that lead you're talking about, then you can kind
19:15
Speaker 2: of get going. But if you haven't done it by halftime,
19:19
Speaker 2: it's hard and you're probably in for a sixty minute
19:21
Speaker 2: deal because it's just harder to pull away. As we
19:25
Speaker 2: like to say, this is not the Southeastern Conference. You know,
19:28
Speaker 2: there's no mismatches. So why is the Titans defense Outside
19:33
Speaker 2: of Jeffrey Simmons, who I think most people listening to
19:35
Speaker 2: this show know he's elite, what else makes this defense
19:41
Speaker 2: so tough? The front seven? Obviously, you know again there
19:45
Speaker 2: are parts of teams, even struggling teams, that are really good.
19:48
Speaker 2: If you let the Titans defensive front dictate the game,
19:51
Speaker 2: they can beat.
19:52
Speaker 3: You, absolutely and if you make them, if you allow
19:56
Speaker 3: them to dictate the terms. Denard Wilson is the defense
20:00
Speaker 3: and then know him well, Frank Bush to their linebacker
20:01
Speaker 3: coach man, they're gonna have this team ready to play,
20:03
Speaker 3: particularly upfront, and with Jeffrey Simmons, he commands so much
20:06
Speaker 3: attention that allows the game to be easy for everybody
20:09
Speaker 3: else to hard ward. You see Draymond Jones. People are
20:12
Speaker 3: talking about arden Key. They have some guys that can
20:14
Speaker 3: really create chaos when they win on early downs and
20:17
Speaker 3: they're able to pen their ears back on passing downs.
20:20
Speaker 3: That's why it's really essential for the Jaguars to be
20:22
Speaker 3: able to run it, to be able to play in
20:24
Speaker 3: what we call mixed down situations where the defense doesn't
20:26
Speaker 3: know if it's run or pass. It's not obvious based
20:29
Speaker 3: on down and distance, and then you have to be
20:31
Speaker 3: able to protect, so you should take some shots on
20:33
Speaker 3: the outside. The most vulnerable part of the Titans defense
20:36
Speaker 3: is their secondary, particularly at corner. You have to be
20:40
Speaker 3: able to run the football, so you take some shots
20:42
Speaker 3: down the field, generate some explosive plays, because explosive plays
20:45
Speaker 3: translate into points. Man, we're gonna need our best week,
20:49
Speaker 3: a best week of practice, and more importantly, a real
20:51
Speaker 3: focused effort to get this done against this team.
20:53
Speaker 2: Will veer into that before we take the next break.
20:58
Speaker 2: Explosive plays, Bucky, It's something that I really thought was
21:02
Speaker 2: going to define the Jaguars offense, and it shows you
21:06
Speaker 2: what I know. They're good and they haven't had i
21:09
Speaker 2: think three plays over forty yards in the passing game.
21:13
Speaker 2: There's a chance to get BTJ back this week. I'm
21:17
Speaker 2: not sure how he's going to fit into what's going on.
21:20
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a role. If it hasn't
21:24
Speaker 2: happened yet, can they start being explosive or is it
21:28
Speaker 2: going to be ten play eighty yard drives now?
21:32
Speaker 3: They still have an opportunity to find a way to
21:33
Speaker 3: be explosive. One of the things that stood out it
21:37
Speaker 3: was a near miss but late in the game last
21:39
Speaker 3: week against the Cardinals, we had gone a little thirteen personnel,
21:42
Speaker 3: three tight ends, and we snuck the Yanmi Brown in
21:45
Speaker 3: the game out wide, and we play action and we
21:47
Speaker 3: took a shot and then we missed. But it's one
21:50
Speaker 3: of the things that I would expect us to be
21:51
Speaker 3: able to do. And the more creative we can get
21:53
Speaker 3: with our formations and personnel packages where we showed the
21:56
Speaker 3: illusion to run and then take shots down the field,
22:00
Speaker 3: the better the chances of us being getting to deliver
22:02
Speaker 3: those explosive plays. Bron Thomas Junior comes back because he's
22:06
Speaker 3: our most explosive weapon on the outside in terms of
22:09
Speaker 3: a vertical threat, someone that could make plays outside the numbers.
22:12
Speaker 3: We have to find a way to look man take
22:14
Speaker 3: two or three shots a game not only in hopes
22:17
Speaker 3: of getting an explosive play, but backing the defense up.
22:21
Speaker 3: So now Parker Washington, Jakobe Meyers, Britton Strange, now they
22:25
Speaker 3: have more room to work. The intermediate areagors of the field.
22:29
Speaker 2: In ninety six, Buck, you were here and that team
22:33
Speaker 2: sort of Yeah, I mean at the end of the season,
22:37
Speaker 2: he had been good, but all of a sudden, at
22:39
Speaker 2: the end of the season, he sort of came to
22:42
Speaker 2: life and added something to an already functioning offense and
22:47
Speaker 2: it sort of gave it. It wound up setting the
22:51
Speaker 2: tone for what I consider a Hall of Fame career
22:53
Speaker 2: for him too, But that year it sort of gave
22:56
Speaker 2: them a boost that teams didn't expect. And I kind
22:59
Speaker 2: of wonder if I that's the hope for me. Is
23:03
Speaker 2: it all of a sudden he comes back and then
23:05
Speaker 2: there's a dynamic to an already functioning offense that makes
23:09
Speaker 2: them mature where I think they're gonna get next year.
23:11
Speaker 2: Maybe they get there at the end of the season.
23:14
Speaker 2: I think that's a huge hope for maybe the element
23:18
Speaker 2: that can make them stand out from a tight AFC.
23:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my hope, because as these games become more
23:24
Speaker 3: competitive down the stretch and they become high pressure games.
23:28
Speaker 3: You can need a playmaker on the outside that can
23:30
Speaker 3: not only win, but can deliver a splash play. And
23:33
Speaker 3: I know his season, his second season has been up
23:36
Speaker 3: and now Brian Thomas Jr. Has proven that he can
23:38
Speaker 3: make those splash plays. Despite the inconsistencies with the pass
23:41
Speaker 3: catching and the drops and all this other stuff. We
23:43
Speaker 3: have seen that when he does have an opportunity and
23:46
Speaker 3: he makes the catch is an explosive play. So we
23:48
Speaker 3: got to keep just trying to find ways to put
23:51
Speaker 3: him in a position to make those plays. Whatever it
23:53
Speaker 3: is that you have to do in terms of playing
23:54
Speaker 3: musical chairs around the formation, find what works with him,
23:58
Speaker 3: because I'm telling you the last month of the season,
24:01
Speaker 3: we're going to need him and he is going to
24:03
Speaker 3: make a series of game change in plays that helps
24:05
Speaker 3: the Jaguars cruis into the postseason.
24:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, unpractically his last play. He made it against the
24:10
Speaker 2: Raiders Mayber of the twenty seven yarder where he got hurt.
24:12
Speaker 2: He came back, but that was really his last healthy play.
24:15
Speaker 2: Cheer on your Jaguars as they travel to Tennessee to
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Speaker 2: take on the Titans this Sunday at the official away
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24:25
Speaker 2: Will be back in a moment talk about cam Ward.
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24:49
Speaker 2: We're going to take a look at Titans quarterback cam Ward. Look,
24:56
Speaker 2: we cover the Jaguars, so you cover the NFL much
25:00
Speaker 2: more than I get a chance to. For me, cam
25:03
Speaker 2: Ward sort of blends into a lot of struggling young quarterbacks.
25:07
Speaker 2: You never know if they're gonna make it. Bryce Young,
25:10
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of storylines. Why is he different
25:14
Speaker 2: than that.
25:17
Speaker 3: One? His mentality is different than a lot of guys.
25:19
Speaker 3: He's got an ultra competitive guy, just loves the game.
25:24
Speaker 3: Alpha dog persona is what guys will describe him as,
25:27
Speaker 3: and he's super talented when it comes to being able
25:29
Speaker 3: to make throws from various platforms. It hasn't worked to
25:33
Speaker 3: date against the Titans, but he's shown flashes when you
25:35
Speaker 3: go back and look at his history. First at incarnate word.
25:38
Speaker 3: Then at Washington State, and finally in Miami. He's always
25:42
Speaker 3: raised the level of play of his teammates, and the
25:45
Speaker 3: expectation will be that he would do the same thing
25:48
Speaker 3: in Tennessee. Doesn't have the weapons around him, but man,
25:50
Speaker 3: he's gonna make some throws, a handful of throws this week,
25:53
Speaker 3: and it's gonna make us kind of drop out jaws.
25:55
Speaker 3: What has to happen for us? Can't let him get comfortable.
25:59
Speaker 3: Got to find a way to disrupt his rhythm. Sometimes
26:01
Speaker 3: that disruption comes from blissing. Sometimes it comes from changing
26:04
Speaker 3: the look post snap. But you cannot lie him to
26:07
Speaker 3: kind of read the mail, because if he's able to
26:10
Speaker 3: do that, he's able to play aggressively and decisively. He's
26:12
Speaker 3: good enough to hurt you.
26:14
Speaker 2: Do you know him at all? Buck? I know you knew?
26:16
Speaker 3: Should do?
26:16
Speaker 2: I mean? Like you knew some of the guys coming out,
26:17
Speaker 2: do you?
26:18
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't.
26:18
Speaker 2: I don't.
26:19
Speaker 3: I don't know him as well. Covering him extensively and
26:22
Speaker 3: the stories about him when you talk to Mario, Crystal
26:25
Speaker 3: Ball and guys down in Miami are legendary in terms
26:27
Speaker 3: of how he holds people accountable, how he gets after
26:30
Speaker 3: it and just what he brings to the game. But
26:33
Speaker 3: like most young quarterbacks, man, it takes it takes a
26:36
Speaker 3: little while to acclimate to the pro game. And if
26:38
Speaker 3: you're the Jags, don't give any life. Don't let him
26:41
Speaker 3: get off to a hot, hot start, don't let him
26:43
Speaker 3: see the layups, going to bucket all that other stuff.
26:45
Speaker 3: So you really want to clam down, make sure that
26:47
Speaker 3: it's tough for him early and see if we can
26:50
Speaker 3: feel him wilt under pressure late.
26:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, what she wondered about a young guy like that
26:54
Speaker 2: in the rookie year is you know, do you have
26:57
Speaker 2: that you want to or grid or whatever it is
27:02
Speaker 2: to withstand weak to week what's going on. You know,
27:05
Speaker 2: some guys can sound try, have a bad season and
27:07
Speaker 2: then come back and once everything's been reset and they've
27:11
Speaker 2: gotten away there, they're good to go. But it sounds
27:14
Speaker 2: like he's a guy and the Titans results the last
27:17
Speaker 2: few weeks tell me that he's a guy who they're
27:21
Speaker 2: not going to be an easy out down the stretch,
27:24
Speaker 2: just because they've already reached double digit victories. And it
27:27
Speaker 2: sounds like he's a big reason why.
27:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big reason why. And when I looked
27:31
Speaker 3: at him coming out. He reminded me personality wise, of
27:35
Speaker 3: Steve McNair. Okay, And for those of us who remember
27:38
Speaker 3: Steve mcdarren what he did for the Oilers and Titans,
27:41
Speaker 3: you understand the rugged persona and how he kind of
27:44
Speaker 3: brought that to the field and his toughness was a
27:47
Speaker 3: big part of how they rallied and played. And Ward
27:50
Speaker 3: has some of those traits a little different as a player,
27:53
Speaker 3: but it's going to be very, very reminiscent of when
27:56
Speaker 3: Number nine would come out there and run out with
27:59
Speaker 3: that that baby blue on and give the Jack's problems.
28:02
Speaker 3: We got to make sure we don't get them started.
28:03
Speaker 3: We want to make sure we crush his confidence early.
28:06
Speaker 3: We don't want him to have a breakout performance on
28:08
Speaker 3: our watch. Let him find that later in the year.
28:10
Speaker 2: So x'es and o's wise, what's the key to getting
28:12
Speaker 2: him off the field?
28:14
Speaker 3: I mean X and those wise. I think it's the
28:15
Speaker 3: same thing that we've seen in recent weeks. We got
28:17
Speaker 3: to find a way to win upfront, and we're better
28:19
Speaker 3: if we're able to win with four and keep seven
28:22
Speaker 3: in coverage. We don't want to have to make it
28:24
Speaker 3: a steady diet of blitzing, even though Anthony ga Manilla
28:27
Speaker 3: would bring some pressures. We want to use the blitz
28:29
Speaker 3: as a surprise, not as a main diet. So let's
28:32
Speaker 3: see if Josh Heines Allen and some of those other
28:34
Speaker 3: guys up front can hunt early and allow us to
28:37
Speaker 3: play coverage and really suffocate what they have available on
28:39
Speaker 3: the perimeter.
28:40
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask the defensive coordinator a question. Josh
28:43
Speaker 2: Heines Allen talks a lot about rushing as a group,
28:50
Speaker 2: right and the importance of it and rushing within a plan.
28:57
Speaker 2: It seems like they've gotten back to that the last
29:00
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I would sense that can be a
29:03
Speaker 2: hard thing to stay in all year because there's pressure
29:06
Speaker 2: in this lead to get sacks. It seems like the
29:08
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks they have rushed really well as
29:11
Speaker 2: a unit.
29:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have rush really well as a unit. And
29:14
Speaker 3: it is a coordinated effort by the front floor to
29:18
Speaker 3: be able to rush and get the quarterback down. And
29:20
Speaker 3: what you can have is you can't have guys playing
29:22
Speaker 3: hero ball. When you jump out of a gap, you
29:24
Speaker 3: go to make a play, you've rushed past the depth
29:26
Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks drop and you leave open lanes for
29:29
Speaker 3: the quarterback to escape. Everyone has to do their job
29:32
Speaker 3: up front, and when everyone is working together, that's when
29:35
Speaker 3: you begin to get those covered sacks or those garbage
29:38
Speaker 3: sacks because people are forcing the quarterback into the waiting
29:41
Speaker 3: arms of somebody else. I'll say this though, the biggest
29:43
Speaker 3: key to the pass for us has been Eric Armstead.
29:46
Speaker 3: His ability to generate a push up the middle force
29:49
Speaker 3: his quarterbacks to flee to the size into the hands
29:52
Speaker 3: of Josh hanz Allen and some of the other guys.
29:55
Speaker 3: So as long as Eric Armstead is dominating and winning
29:58
Speaker 3: his one on one battle up front, man, it's gonna
30:00
Speaker 3: bowl well for Josh Anzellen and others to be able
30:02
Speaker 3: to get sacks.
30:03
Speaker 2: I haven't been around too many good edge rushers who
30:06
Speaker 2: haven't had good interior line play. So that's one of
30:10
Speaker 2: the great hidden truths of the NFL. When we return,
30:14
Speaker 2: a final look at the Titans on Huddle Up with
30:16
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with
30:25
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30:38
Speaker 2: the Jaguars. You know, it's funny, Bucky. As much as
30:44
Speaker 2: you know the winning I get emails about what this
30:46
Speaker 2: team's not right, Oh, they're struggling in the way we
30:51
Speaker 2: talked about the top of the show. Well, what they are,
30:54
Speaker 2: Bucky is they're seven and four. They're a game behind
30:57
Speaker 2: Indy and the AFC South. They're a game ahead of
30:59
Speaker 2: the Texans. I don't think there's a legitimate favorite in
31:03
Speaker 2: this division right now. I think the Texans have the
31:05
Speaker 2: best defense. The Colts are good. The Jaguars. There's no
31:09
Speaker 2: reason this team can't win it. There's also no reason
31:12
Speaker 2: the Texans can't win it. There's no reason the Colts
31:14
Speaker 2: can't win it from their point of view. I mean
31:17
Speaker 2: even I'm not sure there's an edge. This is going
31:20
Speaker 2: to be fun because those two teams play each other twice.
31:24
Speaker 2: The Colts and Jags play each other twice. It's gonna
31:26
Speaker 2: get decided on the field.
31:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna get decided on the field. And you
31:31
Speaker 3: love that. And you know, we've talked about it internally
31:34
Speaker 3: about the number magic numbers ten for the playoffs. But
31:37
Speaker 3: what you love about the situation that the Jacks are
31:39
Speaker 3: in is they really control their own destiny. If they
31:41
Speaker 3: take care of business down the stretch, they will not
31:44
Speaker 3: only make the playoffs, but they could win the division.
31:46
Speaker 3: But this is one where you got to attack it
31:48
Speaker 3: one game at a time. And this is a big
31:49
Speaker 3: game just because on paper they would say that this
31:52
Speaker 3: is one that they should win. So you want to
31:54
Speaker 3: make sure that you get this one and set yourself
31:56
Speaker 3: up to play meaningful games down the stretch. The team
31:58
Speaker 3: is mature lot from the beginning of the season and
32:01
Speaker 3: if you really go back and look at the games
32:04
Speaker 3: that are lost outside of that one stinker against the
32:07
Speaker 3: Rams in London, look, man, they played really good teams.
32:10
Speaker 3: They can fall short in some of these games. This
32:12
Speaker 3: team is good. This team knows that they're getting close
32:15
Speaker 3: to being the team that we want them to be.
32:16
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of taking another step this weekend.
32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you know, you're one play again. You
32:23
Speaker 2: can't say this in the NFL, I get it, but
32:25
Speaker 2: you're one play away from being four to ohero in
32:28
Speaker 2: your last you know four and from basically being able
32:33
Speaker 2: to say you know. And even the Texans right now,
32:37
Speaker 2: it has taken good teams to knock this team off.
32:41
Speaker 2: Now they've been a little fortunate against the Raiders and
32:43
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. That's the way the league goes. But the
32:49
Speaker 2: remaining schedule do we have that graphic? I don't know
32:51
Speaker 2: if we had the remaining schedule graphic. Here you go
32:55
Speaker 2: ask and he shall receive it. I don't get too
32:59
Speaker 2: much into games remaining because it's such a week to weekly,
33:02
Speaker 2: but you know, you do have that shot with the
33:06
Speaker 2: four division games, then with the Jets. The Broncos looks
33:10
Speaker 2: like a doozy. But as soon as you say they
33:14
Speaker 2: look like a doozy, Bucky I'll use this graptok aout
33:18
Speaker 2: the entire AFC and lead into that there's no dominant
33:22
Speaker 2: team in the AFC. I can make an argument that
33:26
Speaker 2: if you get to the Super Bowl you might be
33:28
Speaker 2: playing a Rams or a Seahawks team or an Eagles team,
33:31
Speaker 2: that it's not a great matchup. I'm not sure there's
33:34
Speaker 2: any awful matchups for the Jaguars left in the AFC
33:37
Speaker 2: this year.
33:38
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. If you look at the games that
33:40
Speaker 3: are on the slate before we even get to the postseason.
33:43
Speaker 3: To look, you have the Vision games against the Titans twice,
33:46
Speaker 3: and then the coast. We traditionally match up well against
33:48
Speaker 3: the Coats, particularly at home. So then you talk about
33:51
Speaker 3: the Jets and the Broncos. With the Jets, they have
33:54
Speaker 3: quarterback issues and so we can talk about that and
33:57
Speaker 3: the Broncos. I'm be real about the Broncos. Their defense
34:00
Speaker 3: is outstanding. Their offense leads a little to be desired.
34:04
Speaker 3: That means you know what you're going to get into
34:06
Speaker 3: when you play them if you're the Jaguars, and coaches
34:09
Speaker 3: do a great job of not getting too far ahead
34:11
Speaker 3: of themselves. But as fans, we can't. John. We like this.
34:16
Speaker 3: We like the way to schedule lays out, I mean
34:19
Speaker 3: right there without thinking you're like, okay, three are available there,
34:22
Speaker 3: Potentially you could get five. I mean like there's a
34:25
Speaker 3: path to being able to win and get everything that
34:27
Speaker 3: you want heading into the postseason.
34:30
Speaker 2: We're gonna put the playoff picture graphic up in a moment,
34:33
Speaker 2: but I want to ask Bucky one thing about a
34:35
Speaker 2: stat I found, which surprising, not surprising, right, the last
34:41
Speaker 2: four games they scored at least twenty seven points the Jags.
34:44
Speaker 2: It's first time they've done that since the end of
34:48
Speaker 2: the end of twenty seventeen. Does it and again some
34:53
Speaker 2: bad football in the eighteen to twenty one to twenty
34:57
Speaker 2: two abyss Right, does it feel to you does the
35:04
Speaker 2: eye test for this offense back that up? It feels
35:07
Speaker 2: like they're almost sneakily becoming pretty consistent and reliable on offense,
35:13
Speaker 2: notably even while having some turnovers and some flubs. But
35:16
Speaker 2: they're putting points up.
35:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are putting points up. Now, I would say
35:20
Speaker 3: it's a collective effort because not included in that are
35:24
Speaker 3: some of the big returns. Parker Washington has made some
35:27
Speaker 3: of the fratuitous bounces that we've been able to get
35:29
Speaker 3: defensively to set the offense up. But as a team,
35:32
Speaker 3: when we talk about magic numbers and scoring, yeah, man,
35:35
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty eight has always been what the
35:37
Speaker 3: really good teams in this league have been able to
35:39
Speaker 3: hit or exceed. So the Jaguars are right there. The
35:42
Speaker 3: thing that we need to see from the offense is
35:47
Speaker 3: better execution and close out moments. Got to be able
35:50
Speaker 3: to close out the game in the fourth quarter. Had
35:51
Speaker 3: a great drive over time against the Raiders. But there
35:55
Speaker 3: have been times where Liam is on the record saying,
35:57
Speaker 3: hey man, we got a chance to close out the game.
35:59
Speaker 3: I'm a lean on the offens to do it. We
36:01
Speaker 3: just need to make sure offensively we're doing that. We're
36:04
Speaker 3: closing these game out. We're shutting the door and not
36:07
Speaker 3: giving other people opportunities to kind of get back into
36:09
Speaker 3: it late.
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Speaker 2: You brought that up, and I know the Skeleton crews
36:11
Speaker 2: want to get out of here. But I got to
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Speaker 2: ask you about this fourth and one the other day.
36:19
Speaker 2: You know, Eleen's been getting super criticized. You shouldn't go
36:23
Speaker 2: for it there if he'd made it to be a genius.
36:25
Speaker 2: It's the old thing. But I think what people may
36:28
Speaker 2: be missing, and I think you'll buy into this. There's
36:33
Speaker 2: a message in a mentality with that too, isn't there?
36:35
Speaker 2: I mean, and he said after the game, you know
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Speaker 2: he wants guys to realize we are going to close
36:43
Speaker 2: these kind of games out around here on our terms
36:48
Speaker 2: and sort of an organizational tone to that as well.
36:51
Speaker 2: Do you think one hundred percent?
36:54
Speaker 3: And it goes back because I'll give you a little backstory.
36:56
Speaker 3: I watched Army play the night before and Jeff Munkin
37:00
Speaker 3: and the head coach and Marmie had the same thing.
37:01
Speaker 3: Running offense wants to finish out the game, they get
37:04
Speaker 3: the first down, game is over. Liam Cohn is coming
37:06
Speaker 3: from that school of thought where we have an opportunity
37:09
Speaker 3: on fourth and one, fourth and two, where we feel
37:11
Speaker 3: great about our team and what we have, why not
37:15
Speaker 3: take it when you have control of that situation as
37:17
Speaker 3: opposed to kicking the field goal, punting, playing defense and
37:20
Speaker 3: doing a traditional way when we've seen so many games
37:23
Speaker 3: over years where teams lose in that fashion in a
37:26
Speaker 3: league where it's all offensive friendly. So I understand going
37:31
Speaker 3: for it. Look, whether you like the play call in
37:34
Speaker 3: the execution, that's one thing, But understanding the mentality everyone
37:37
Speaker 3: can understand that. And he said it, so we know
37:40
Speaker 3: what he's going to do in those moments.
37:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. And or this
37:45
Speaker 2: because Doug sort of went forward in that situation a
37:47
Speaker 2: lot too. He was of that mindset. Look, if you
37:52
Speaker 2: don't like that, you probably turned off the TV because
37:56
Speaker 2: it's everyone's gonna Yeah. I mean, it's it's not too
38:01
Speaker 2: I mean it's not nineteen ninety five. That have been
38:03
Speaker 2: insane in ninety five, But that's the way teams are
38:05
Speaker 2: playing now and Liam's not gonna change on that front.
38:09
Speaker 2: I think North should he, because, like you said, Buck,
38:11
Speaker 2: the league is structured right now where that's going to
38:16
Speaker 2: benefit you over the long term having that kind of
38:19
Speaker 2: of an approach. If you can't win doing that these days,
38:22
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna win.
38:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you have to spend a lot of
38:25
Speaker 3: time on these third and fourth and short situations knowing
38:29
Speaker 3: that that's gonna be a big part of who you are.
38:30
Speaker 3: You have to have more plays on the call sheet,
38:33
Speaker 3: and you got to practice those situations more often. But
38:35
Speaker 3: really it doesn't even coming down to the plays that
38:38
Speaker 3: you call. Is more the intensity and then to focus
38:40
Speaker 3: when it comes to executing on those moments, Jackson, The
38:43
Speaker 3: Jags just have to execute in those moments so we
38:45
Speaker 3: can finish out these games on our terms.
38:47
Speaker 2: All Right, We're going to quickly put up the AFC
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Speaker 2: playoff picture graphic. The Jaguars are absolutely on the graphic.
38:54
Speaker 2: For explanation, I've explained it a few times in the ozone,
38:57
Speaker 2: But the Jaguars are the sixth seed, behind the Chargers
39:01
Speaker 2: and ahead of the Bills because there's a three way
39:05
Speaker 2: tie and the Chargers have the best conference record right now,
39:09
Speaker 2: and the Jaguars conference record is better than the Bills,
39:12
Speaker 2: so even though they beat the Chargers head to head,
39:14
Speaker 2: they're sixth. The good news on that is if they
39:19
Speaker 2: remain tied and finishing a two way tie with either
39:22
Speaker 2: Kansas City or the Chargers, they have a huge edge.
39:25
Speaker 2: So it's not showing in this, but by next week,
39:29
Speaker 2: if they're tied, you could see the Jaguars on top
39:32
Speaker 2: of that graphic. That's a long way off, but it's
39:34
Speaker 2: just stuff. Something's been a question all week, and Bucky
39:37
Speaker 2: just you know, one final question again on that graphic.
39:42
Speaker 2: This is as wide open as I've ever seen the AFC. Probably,
39:46
Speaker 2: I say, ever there's been other years. It's wide wide open.
39:52
Speaker 2: And as we talked about coming into the break, that
39:55
Speaker 2: team in red sitting over on the right is still
39:57
Speaker 2: probably the team I don't want to see.
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Speaker 3: The kis. The Chiefs is certainly there, and they're scary
40:02
Speaker 3: because their quarterback Pat Mahomes and all of the experience
40:04
Speaker 3: that they have as a perend of you super Bowl team,
40:06
Speaker 3: So you worry about them just in in six and five.
40:09
Speaker 3: They have some work to do. But when I look
40:11
Speaker 3: at the graphic, mayas are dead on the Colts because
40:13
Speaker 3: I'm seeing the Coats beginning. They have to rely more
40:16
Speaker 3: on Daniel Jones, the playmaker, than the game manager that
40:20
Speaker 3: he was, the role that he was thriving in early
40:23
Speaker 3: in the year. And the more that it becomes that
40:26
Speaker 3: and less about Jonathan Taylor, the more likely the Coats
40:28
Speaker 3: are going to come back to the pack. We'll take
40:31
Speaker 3: care of business this weekend and then we can talk
40:33
Speaker 3: about the Colts. But if I'm a Jags fan, I'm
40:36
Speaker 3: looking at the division title because you want division title,
40:39
Speaker 3: because that's a home game and theoretically a better matchup
40:43
Speaker 3: for you in the postseason. Oh.
40:44
Speaker 2: I think you make a strong argument that if you're
40:47
Speaker 2: a Jags fan you sort of hope the Colts win
40:50
Speaker 2: this week. That puts the Texans two games behind you,
40:54
Speaker 2: and you've only split with them because you've you've got
40:58
Speaker 2: to be bold in this. Hey, let the Colts win
41:00
Speaker 2: this week. We'll reel them in next week after we
41:05
Speaker 2: take care of business in Tennessee. It's a bold organization
41:08
Speaker 2: right now. They're not waiting for things to happen to
41:10
Speaker 2: help them, So I do think they're taking the approach
41:14
Speaker 2: the Colts can win four as far as they're concerned,
41:17
Speaker 2: because they want to win the other two and beat
41:19
Speaker 2: them and bring them back, so they're more concerned about
41:23
Speaker 2: what the Jags do than the Colts do. Right now,
41:24
Speaker 2: is my point.
41:25
Speaker 3: So I gotta take your business. It'll come back to us,
41:28
Speaker 3: and we control on our destiny, so if we win
41:30
Speaker 3: our games, it doesn't matter what any of those other
41:31
Speaker 3: teams do. All right?
41:33
Speaker 2: Everybody, Happy Thanksgiving, Buck, Happy Thanksgiving to Brent Reever. Heavy
41:39
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving to management, which is probably off site listening to
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Speaker 2: this right now, Bucky, So I'm going to get out
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Speaker 2: of here. This. This has been the Huddle Up Podcast
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Speaker 2: with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 3: Buck.
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Speaker 2: We'll see a Sunday, all right, man, we see