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Striving Through Your Hardest Days - ft. Sayed Abdullah Al-Nakeeb · After Maghrib 🌙

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All the Bellah Manisha Donna in your regimes, Milah Rahman
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Rahim, respected brothers, sisters, welcome back to after
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Maghrib Salaam Alaikum. And of course we are in the days
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after Ashura, the days where we commemorate the journey of the
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family of Imam Hussein Alais Salaam from Karbala to Kufa to
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Sham and the journey which we will never forget generation
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after generation. Since the year 61 after Hezra
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has remembered the trials and the tribulations, the suffering
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and the endurance that the family of Alam Hamad Salawat
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Alayhi, Salam Alayhi had to go through the burning sands, the
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thorns, the the nails in the chains that the family of Alam
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Hamad had to carry with them. Some reports say for up to 900
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or 1000 miles of walking. Now during these days, Ren
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sisters, as we reflect on the 1st 10 nights of Muhalong, we
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learned some of the values and we reflect on some of the
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lessons that we heard so much about.
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But how perhaps we can apply this to our lives today.
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And one of the most important lessons from the saga of Karbala
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is Sabar and truly understanding Sabar, not in a general sense of
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I should be a patient person because the Imam was patient,
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his family and his companions were patient.
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But perhaps the further layers to patients and Sabad lays that
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we perhaps haven't explored before on the podcast, lays that
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we can understand from the holy of Quran, from our Hadith, from
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understanding different virtues of patients, different types,
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limitations, capacities and styles of patients that we see
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throughout the lives, the lives of the Atabeit.
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Ayaam Salaam. Joining me, as always, is my
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dear brother, Said Ali Salaam Alaikum said.
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How are? You keeping?
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Hamdullah well, you know, we are still carrying on with the with
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the mourning and with the Mossad, or we're still
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remembering the tragedies that took place after Karbala, after
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the days of Ashura. So many of us are still
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Hamdullah, attending the Majalis.
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Many of us are still listening to speakers and lecturers and
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learning and trying to maximise lessons that we can take from
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Karbala and from Sham and especially from your mum Zena.
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Aberdeen say the Zena Bali Salaam.
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So inshallah the views are home. Wherever you are around the
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world you are and Charlotte also doing the same.
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How are you? I'm, yeah, the Hamdullah Habla.
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I'm, I'm, I'm good, I'm we're lucky and we're honoured to be
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able to commemorate once again this year, like every year has
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been filled with emotion, filled with unity amongst the
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Montminine. Our hearts are with the Imam of
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our Thai mum, Sahib, Alas, Ziman, who we continuously think
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of when we read Ziad Ali Haseen that I had all of the, all of
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the, the idea that we have the Ziad that we have that pay
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tribute to him and that link his message to Imam Jose.
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And so I think that's been nice because we've heard a lot about
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that in, in, in the last couple of weeks.
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So inshallah we can put that into practice as well.
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This year. Al Hamdallah, Bron sisters,
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we've had one of our favorite and I shouldn't really be
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biased, but our favorite guests, guest scholars speaking in the
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United Kingdom and Al Hamdallah, we're honoured to be joined once
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again by our beloved said Abdullah Naqib.
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I didn't say that one is actually mine.
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Have you ever said baby, thank you for the nice to have you
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here. Thank you so much for coming.
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God bless yourself. How are you keeping Handela?
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Handela, It's been a couple of years.
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I know, I know. We've missed you a few times.
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Have you all of? Our viewers miss you as well.
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I've been a large. Oracle would you have been have
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you which Oracle? It's it's beautiful.
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It's just to see where the podcast was, how it's progressed
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in the years and all the the struggles that people actually
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don't know. All you guys had to go through
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and enjoy and how you guys stayed together.
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Have you? That speaks volumes about the
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patience that you guys have. You've been, you've been, you're
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a big part of that journey, say you have been and you remain a
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part of the team and look to you for guidance and inspiration all
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the time. So and I think the viewers at
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home love you as much as we do. So we're so honoured to have you
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again today said I know this is a topic which you spoke about
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during your 10 nights in in Birmingham and I advise everyone
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to go and check out the sales lectures which are all online as
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well. But of course this is such a
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critical theme. Would you perhaps say that when
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we look at our last panel to Allah's will and the will of why
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Karbala took place, could we narrow it down maybe to one key
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value or characteristic? Or are there multiple?
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And if so, where does Sabar kind of fit into this?
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That's a very good question. Look, Karbala, you really can't
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cocune it to anything. That's the thing.
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It has the pinnacle or the most perfect manifestation of many
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characters. You know, we've got sacrifice
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and all in the drew rites, said the Zainab and her sacrifice,
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Abbas, his sacrifice, Ali Akbar, Azkar, Mohammed Hussain, you
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know, all of which manifested. You can manifest Rahman, for
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example, and how merciful they were with the enemies, with her,
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you know, with anyone that chose even to the last second, he's
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giving them an opportunity to return back towards Allah,
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Manifestation of mercy. You've got a manifestation of
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the morality of a family unit. You know, the love that you're
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showing towards either your spouse, your children, your
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brothers, your mother's, your father's, you have that
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manifestation. And obviously the one that we're
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speaking about today, which is Sabor and Sabor generally in a
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general sense is of the most important characteristics that
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we do have and the tradition that we have that just shows you
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how important it is in your faith.
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It says that the position of patience to Iman, which we're
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all aiming to benefit from and to to gain says it's the
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position of the head to the body.
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So you can imagine if a person is is trying to be faithful or
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trying to be religious, tries to endeavour into this sea or this
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ocean of trying to be more religious.
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OK, what do I do? Do I do worship more?
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Do I learn more? Do I educate myself?
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Do I get magiles more YouTube. Where is this?
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And it says that the direction that you're going to be using is
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all through your patience. Because if you look at head
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towards the body, the head is responsible for #1 moving the
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body, OK, at any particular direction.
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So through your patience, that you're able to pave the way of
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where you should go, where you're able to go, and your
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limitations. Likewise, the head to the body,
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everything goes through the head for the body, right?
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With an inch of bionic, with your eyes, with your ears, with
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your senses. And once you've understood it,
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then your body kind of reacts to it, right?
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So that is all through the patients as well.
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So if you look at whatever lens that we're looking at it
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through, it's of great significance, OK?
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And what we allow to impact us through patients, whatever we
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allow for ourselves to react to also goes back to patients, OK?
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And we always have this one concept that we always think
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patience is only one thing. When something befalls us, then
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it's how do we react to it? And often people just thinks
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that we have to be silent and that's what patient means.
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But it's, it's, it's far greater than that.
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And inshallah, that's a discussion that we're going to
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have tonight. Where, where are the
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limitations? What are the different types?
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How can we apply it? You know, is it just silence
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that we're just sitting at home, You know, much, much like the
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discussion of Haeba, right? Intelar, intelar, is it just you
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sitting down or is it something that you're actively doing?
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Likewise, the concept of patience falls in the same
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category that is misinterpreted by us and by the Muslims at
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large, I think. They're all so beautiful.
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You said it so eloquently, honey.
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It's a plan Allah even like trying to think about things in
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my own personal life when it comes to someone, someone has
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been like the the key moments where you calm everything down.
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Like no matter what troubles you go through, you have patience,
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Allah's with you. No matter what difficulties,
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trials, pressures, community, family, friends, the podcast,
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whatever it is, if we have some more, Allah's there with you.
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And you know, Speaking of that, we, we read in the Quran Allah
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Azzawajal says in Allahuma Sabarins.
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How do we understand that? What is meant by the others?
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So it depends on the type of sabar, right?
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So if we delve into. Yeah, yeah, type.
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So, so in Allahama Asabarin. So that's the discussion like
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what does sabarim mean here? Because different places in the
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Quran means different things, right?
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So and also layers so on the. So I just reject say it is
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because the reason I want to know is because some people say,
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for example, when we say in Allahama Asabarin, there are
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those who say what does God want us to be?
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You know, that's God want us to suffer.
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Yeah, only from like, how do we understand it for those who face
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trials and. Tribulations because that's
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that's that's the most important things to identify what sabar is
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I'm Lily Hivey. I'll give you a verse on the
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holy Quran similar Rahman Rahim. What's the anal?
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The sabaris? What's Salah?
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Now you try to interpret. That you go towards the surface
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level and you look at the tradition that says Sabar in
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this verse in question means. Song which is fast.
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So now, Sabar, why does it mean fasting in this context?
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It's obviously because outside the month of Ramadan, you're
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able to eat, you're able to drink.
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There are things that you are able to do to be intimate to the
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end of it. There's all these things that
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you're allowed to do. But all of a sudden, in the
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month of Ramadan, Allah puts rules and regulations.
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On it, these rules and regulations need you to abide by
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what Allah has prescribed upon you.
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Allah saying that. Point in your life when you're
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making an active decision to stay away from that which is
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unlawful. Actively trying with the thought
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process as patience. So now it's not just I'm just
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sitting back doing nothing, there's an action that I'm
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actually pursuing in order for me to achieve a goal that Allah
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has set before me. So that's where people kind of
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get confused like, OK, so now patience means on the surface
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level here. Fasting, if you go to the deeper
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levels in the traditions of Muhammad Ali, Muhammad, we have
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Alam Salah al Muhammad, we have traditions that say patience
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here means Rasol Allah. So what now says it's the Aino
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meaning seek assistance through Rasol Allah, OK.
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And by extension there a little bit.
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So you have deeper meanings there, and both of them are very
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valid. But the type is what we need to
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understand. So are there different types of
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patients? So they say the first one is the
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most understood one, right? Which?
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Is a Sabra Alabama Bella? Sabra Alabama Bella, You have a
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calamity that befalls you. How do you react to it?
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It's not about how do you keep quiet.
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You'll say patience is a colour seller.
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I'm just going to form my head to the side and, and, you know,
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carry through, sail through the the rocky seas.
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But it says here when you have a calamity that befalls you, so
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there it says for Bashar is sabarim sahaya glad tidings to
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the patient ones. Why the action?
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The first thing is is they remember Allah subhanahu Ta'ala
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and they remember how they will return.
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OK, and this is all. Different things, we're not
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someone and why with Tamarat or Amphos?
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To the end of it. So there's a lot of things that
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Allah can test you within sabra allel Bella.
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The opposite to that is what is a yes.
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So sabra on one side, yes is on the other.
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Some say a jezza. So it depends on how you want to
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look at it. But there's a discussion for a
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different day, inshallah. But patience is there.
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Allel Bella. The opposite of being patient,
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going to the right way is going to the wrong way.
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So. So Bella comes instead of as an
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example. Let's say you you lose a family
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member, someone loses their health that.
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You know, position you lose in any way, shape or form your
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position you're respecting the community.
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You're some. People get stripped from the
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headman of Elevate and we've seen that, we've seen that.
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So what do you do then? Do you try to find a way back to
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Allah or do some because some people go the other way.
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They're like, why me? I've done everything Halas, and
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they go to a different direction, right?
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So they haven't practiced this concept of patience.
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To the right way. Said, how do I practice this
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concept to patience is the discussion.
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You said in Siam there's an, there's an.
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Active point to it. There's an action that you're
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doing. You're you're first of all,
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you're thinking about it. You understand where the end
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goal is. And how to?
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Achieve that so yeah, so for example.
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With anything, let's say something befalls you of of a
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health issue. So yeah, so someone has a
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health. Issue.
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What do you do? You could ponder over, oh, you
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know, for example, this personality that Once Upon a
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time they had good health and I didn't help them in any way,
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shape or form where I should have.
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I had a responsibility. They've been my family members.
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You could feel bad and go the other way and just actually
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break it off more because like, oh, now if I help them, they
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think now that I'm only helping you because you're sick.
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Oh, I'm only there for you now that you need me.
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Why were you there before? Or you can be like, listen, I
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know that I wasn't where I need to be.
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Allah's given me an opportunity now.
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To reconnect, an opportunity to make amends, an opportunity to
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do that which Allah has already told me in what direction I need
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to go. That action upon Bala, because
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it's a trial and tribulation, That action in itself, even the
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thought process before the action is known as patients.
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OK. That is the process of patients
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now. Wherever it goes, it goes.
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Whether they choose to accept it, they do not.
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You're going to consist consistently.
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Try to. Engage in the correct way.
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So that's in bela. So that's the that's the thing
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that everyone knows. That's the most common one,
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right. The second is a Sabra al El
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Masia. What does Masia mean?
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Masia sin so refraining. From sin, yeah.
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So that's that's what you want to do, right.
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So, so the, so the Sabra on the Masia, Masia presents itself.
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It needs willpower. You need to have the right
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Maleka that we were speaking about earlier in order for you
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to remove yourself from that, from that sin.
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So, yeah, so and that goes because we spoke about it as
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well. So Sabor and Tasabor, there's
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two different concepts, right? So Sabor is what we're trying to
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achieve. Sabor is a maleka.
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Maleka means it becomes. Part of.
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You part of you OK, inherent as part of your being.
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So for example, we know personality prior to Islam is.
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Called the generous man Hatim Mutai.
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So Hatim Mutai is known as the generous person, right?
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So coupled with his persona inherently he's known as person
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that's generous. SA and Rasulullah very famous
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story. He captured his daughter as part
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of captive of war when they through.
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Skirmishes and then he found out that it was a daughter of Hatim
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Ottai. And he says in honour of that
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maleka in your father I will free you.
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So what about everyone else? He goes everyone else are free
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in honour of you, so you free them.
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Why? Because of a Maleka that someone
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has. Part of you.
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So what's now the difference between Sabor and Tasaba?
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So sabar Maleka, we said. Because I at least traits is
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that. Trait.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maleka part of you.
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OK. When it comes to Tarsabur, it's
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the constant. It's the constant battle.
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And struggle within yourself to achieve that.
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So make it closer and understanding for the for the
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listeners, it's. Let's say I'll give an example
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for a male and a female. So for a male, let's say males
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are tested with viewing that which is hara.
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With in their phones or the out and about the lowering of their
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gaze. Is the masya right?
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So if you're looking at sabar bil masya, then they have to
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fight against looking at that which is Haram.
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Now you could have sabar as a meleka, which means when you see
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Haram in your mind, you know exactly what you need to do.
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I need to lower my gaze straight away.
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So when Haram presents itself and Shaitaan tries to elude you,
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what are you going to be doing? You're going to be straight
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away. Haram's there.
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I know exactly. I'm going to put my head down.
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I'm in a different direction, so straight away then I have to
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think about it because it's part of you.
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You know exactly what the right thing to do in that position is.
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Tulsabur means the struggle, so there's something.
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Haram, whether it's on the phone, whether it's in public.
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I know it's Haram but I'm struggling so I'm like.
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I just saw something that my Neffs leans towards.
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Am I going to scroll back? Do I, Do I leave it for another
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couple of seconds before I swipe up?
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That thing which I see in public, is it something that I'm
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going to put my head down, I'm going to struggle?
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Do I look back? Is that gaze going to be a
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little bit longer than it's supposed to be?
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So that's the Sabre. There's a struggle there, OK.
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Or Tasabbar. Tasabbar is if you constantly do
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it, Tasabar is going back and forth.
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So that's an example for something to do as Sabro al al
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Massia. So when that presents itself,
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there's a struggle, there's an action that you have to go
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through in order for you to achieve this position of Sabar
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al al Massia. Then likewise, you can take
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examples for the ladies. So whatever the ladies, for
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example, find of a sinful nature.
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Right. And I don't want to say anything
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that, you know, people are going to take offence.
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Well, let's say, for example, if, if, if a if a lady was to
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carry information from another person.
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Yeah. So when they're carrying
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information. They could be like, as they're
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about to speak, they're like, oh, wait, no, this is this is an
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ebook, for example. Like I know that this is wrong.
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So it's tough for a blah, right? Then you have people that are
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like, but I really want to tell you this.
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I really need you to know this, you know, and I'm not going to
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tell you the whole story. There's a struggle there, right?
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And that's where it comes. The difficulty there is what is
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you need to become a Maleka in order for you to be counted as
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those that are. Patient then you know Sabarin
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sabaron depending on the the tradition of the Quranic verse
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that we have. That's the second level.
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OK, So now you begin to see it's not just sitting in both
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platforms. The third is a Sabaru Alam,
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Salah Alam, Mohammed Ali, Muhammad Ali Ibad.
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So Massi Ibad and Vela Ibad is acts of worship.
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So how do you be patient with acts of worship?
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The exact same understanding. Just like you set a goal and you
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have an understanding of what you need to do to achieve it.
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Likewise with worship. You want to wake up for Phaedra
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isn't isn't how am I going to be patient for waking up for
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Phaedra right? It doesn't doesn't add up, but
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the patience there is. What like I need to know that if
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I'm staying up in the Hosseinia and I'm going for the Matam and
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the Latam, I need to be patient to not fall asleep in order for
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me not to miss a lot of sober. Why?
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Because I'm already like 11. Twelve 1:00 Right.
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So it takes patience, patience even to leave everything on a
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normal day outside Muharram, leave the Hangouts, leave the
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whatever. Why?
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Because I need to make sure that I sleep early so I can wake up
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early. So there's there's a process in
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what you want to achieve. And this is just one example.
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Anything I can do in the sense of my birthday you want to go to
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Ziad for? Example you want like I want to
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attain this level of, you know, merit going to Abdullah.
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Let me save up. Yeah, Allah, and to our.
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Listeners as well so. You need to make sacrifices, you
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need to be patient in your lifestyle in order for you,
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let's say, to save up, to go towards the Ziara.
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Why? But the whole concept is that in
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my mind, I'm working towards something.
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You need to identify it first and then work towards it in all
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three platforms, Sabar, Masi and Ibadan.
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Said, I think there's that's, that's that bird's eye view
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approach of looking at it is, is beautiful.
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And I think it immediately allows people to desist in a
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perception, which we constantly have of sabar, which is that
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sabar means to be somewhat negligent or disinvolved with
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something in a sense of, for example, if I'm being pestered
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by someone, I'll have Saba, I'll stop, for example, or a wife or
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a husband in, in, in one case or another who is going through an
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abusive relationship. Somebody in that case is I'll
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endure. I won't say anything.
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Sometimes we have this perception, as I said, that Saba
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means that you don't do anything.
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You sit back, you relax and you complain to Allah.
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And you know, we hear a lot like in certain personality types,
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people will say, I'll be quiet, I'll complain to my Lord, I'll
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complain to Allah, I'll complain I on a personal level.
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And please correct me where I'm wrong.
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I feel like it's it's it's not perhaps the most like, yeah,
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like it's, it's not pragmatic as well at the same time to just
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expect things to change and to have Sabat and wait till Allah,
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when Allah says well, Bashar al Sabarin, he doesn't say that
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victory is to the oppressed ones or to the ones who are given
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these trials. He's saying victory is given to
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the ones who have Sabat, which implies to me that if someone is
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oppressed or if someone is going through all of these Mossiba
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that we talk about in the Quran and and all these stories we
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hear and listen to, that the the victory is given to those who
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endure it with sabar rather than those who are just inflicted
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with these issues. And then we see that of course
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in the lives of the AAM Aayi Musalaam, and of course the saga
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of Karbala, the al beta AAI Musalaam, how they endured and
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how they persisted with endurance, how they then
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personified that sabar through action, say the Zaina Bibi Umal
24:06
Baneen, Imam Sajad, Imam al Baha, all of these characters
24:10
who witnessed in front of them what happened in the battle of,
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of, of Karbala on the day of Ashura and then used that energy
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through the suburb. They had to then create
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something of that, some energy, some form of emotional charge
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that we then still feel until today.
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I just want to read 1 snippet with your mission after the
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Battle of Sifene, Middlemont Mini and Ali Salaam wrote a
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letter for Imam Hassan. Beautiful long will.
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I'm sure many of us have read it.
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Nacho Balaghasan 31 it's it's incredible like but I'll just
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read 1 snippet from where he says these two lines.
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Accustom yourself to endure hardships, since the best trait
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of character is endurance and matters of right in all affairs.
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Resign yourself to Allah, because you will thus be
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resigning yourself to a secure shelter and a strong protector.
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You should ask only from your Lord, because in His hand is the
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old giving and also the one who can deprive.
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So I feel like that's something which.
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Allows us to understand perhaps the psychology of the Imam at
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that time and also from what he of course advised not to Imam
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Hassan, but for our benefit of source.
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Now my my primary question after a long preliminary thing intro
25:29
when we look at. Let's say for example the 1st. 4
25:34
imams and what he the patience he had to go through from a
25:38
young age up until of course, where the the holy Prophet
25:42
Muhammad sallallahu alayhi proclaimed Islam or professed it
25:45
publicly to then, of course the death of Russell Allah and the.
25:48
Years after the death of Russell Allah.
25:51
And then, of course, set of Atman Zahra, all of the
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hardships she went through, Imam Hassan, the way he personified
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his sabar through the soul with Mahawya and how that's also
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misinterpreted. Yeah.
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Because a lot of people see him as the Imam of patience and Imam
26:06
Hussein as the Imam of resistance or revolution, which
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I think isn't perhaps an incorrect methodology,
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personally speaking, in terms of the way we've semanticize it.
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Then of course Imam Sajad, alay Salaam.
26:19
And we need not talk about Imam Sajad, says the Sajadin who was
26:22
known for his enduring patients. When we look at it from an Imami
26:28
perspective, is question one is the suburb.
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They have a level of suburb that is above what we can attain or
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reach on an like an as I won. The second question I have is,
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is the Saba that they had independent from one another or
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is it the same root of Saba which is manifested in different
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ways given the circumstances they were in?
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Yeah, you kind of answered the same question yourself, I don't
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think. That no, no, it's because it's.
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Good. Yeah, No, it's, it's correct.
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So, so when we look at the suburb of Amir al Mahmunin, was
27:06
Salam Allah Alayh? Was it A cause or effect of
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something? So Amir al Mahmunin, what do we
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know about the the silence of Amir al Mahmunin?
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There was a Quranic silence behind a lot of the things that
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you did. So as we know the will, if you
27:19
do not have supporters, then you need to practice patience until
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the time comes. So.
27:28
He tried, he went, he spoke, said to Fatima from house to
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house, house to house in Medina, reminding the ladies of Ansar,
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do not remember, do not remember, do not remember.
27:38
My father said this about Emir Al Munin, said this, this is
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what happened in Ghadir, house to house.
27:43
Imagine, say the say the Fatima from house to house coming and
27:46
still Emir Al Munin just needed 4040 men that were ready to take
27:52
a scrap. That's all he needed.
27:55
You know, like the next day, come meet me in this location
27:58
with your heads shaped. That's all I need to know so I
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know that you're ready and prepared.
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Simple task. Well, maybe Leshisa what 4-5
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people came out of the hole in and he shooting 12,000 strong
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with an right 12,000 he couldn't get and so he had to endure
28:19
patience. He himself says there's a
28:21
prickling in the eye and a choking in my throat, but I had
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to Mama said Jad. What does he say in his hot?
28:27
But the famous one in in sham he he alludes to that.
28:33
He says what what Anebnum Maquet and women are and the museums
28:37
and what Saffa and then Hamlet are looking at it to the end of
28:39
it until he comes Anebnum Asbaru Sabarin meaning.
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Meaning yeah, yeah. So he said I'm the son of him.
28:50
Why did he signify that? Why did he speak about that?
28:54
There's an importance to have this character and what he goes
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through. And Mira Mamunin wasn't just.
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And even when you begin to look at the laugh at Mira Munin, what
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what he said shows us the patience.
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So as a side note, you know there's a comparison between
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Imam Ali and Harun, right? So amongst the comparisons,
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yeah. Ali and Salib I Manzilati, Harun
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Amin. So he's the next after him.
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So amongst very quickly the the things that are commonalities
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between him and Haron is Haron's son.
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What's his name? The first one is Shabba, right?
29:35
OK. The second one is Shabbir or
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Shabbir. Oh yes, mum has a mum was saying
29:41
titles. Yeah, but what?
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What, what? How did it happen?
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Right. So Jibrail came down when Hassan
29:46
was born. He says give me a tub because
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they never named him before Allah, right.
29:50
So it was called Shabbat. And Rasallah says to Gibralt
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inelisani la arabi, My my tongue is in Arabic tongue.
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So it says send me Hassana. Now linguistically in Arabic, we
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have Qaeda summit, Tasrir, Yeah. So if we have a nahar, which is
30:07
a river, if you want to say a smaller river, what do we say?
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We say nahir or nuhair. So you have Hassan, Hussain,
30:16
Hussain, right? So Hassan and Hussain Hussain
30:19
just means the smaller Hassan. Shabbar, Shabbar or Shabbar and
30:23
Shabbir, Same thing, right? So Shabbir is the smaller
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Shabbat. Now did you know Harun had a
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third son called Shabbar Shabbir Mushabbar?
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What did we have in traditions? It's called Hassan.
30:38
So you have that commonality? Yes, you have that commonality.
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The first person after assault Allah that fought against Imam
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Ali was who war waged. The worst person after that
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waged the war against Ali, Sithrin, Jamel, Jamel straight
30:58
after. Was it Ayesha?
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Ayesha, right, Which was the wife of the of the previous
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Prophet. You know the first person that
31:05
waged war against the Wasi of Musa was the wife of Musa.
31:10
Yeah, so you have these commonalities, apparently so.
31:13
So you have it's it's it gets it gets it gets better Bellwoods
31:19
and is to say Haroon and Musa. Musa comes, splits the river,
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does everything right, then goes for 40 days.
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He comes back. He finds them worshipping up.
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No, I do, Sir. A calf, right?
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Calf I do so he comes and grabs her own speaks to him.
31:40
He's like wow, we just crossed the river together right and he
31:43
says these words right. He says yeah in the home in El
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call Mr. da Afoni wakadu yakhtaluneni.
31:50
So they found me. So the Afoni means they found me
31:53
without supporters and they attempted to kill me.
31:57
The same verse was used when Imam Ali was dragged in ropes
32:00
and he passes the grave of Rasol Allah the same same same exact
32:04
verses. Imam Ali Rasola says the exact
32:06
same. So the understanding here is not
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the perspective that they didn't actively try to pursuit what
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they needed to do, but the time was against them.
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They did not have supporters. Imam Hassan, we always look at
32:20
Imam Hassan to be this person that is silent, sits down while
32:25
he wages. He waged wars with Emir MOT
32:27
Munin and Sfin. He was a flag bearer.
32:30
Sfin Emir MOT Munin gives the banner to his son Muhammad Ibn
32:35
Qanafiya, right, very well known personality, even in the
32:38
warfare, he's very well known. But he gives him the flag and he
32:41
says go. And then he says as soon as he
32:44
went to the battlefield, he sees the skies.
32:46
The light in the sky was blacked out from the arrows that were
32:49
being showered something out of the movies.
32:51
And he sometimes you see these things.
32:53
He comes back a minute when he says, what's wrong?
32:56
He says, father, as soon as I saw that, I had fear in my
32:59
heart, so I I returned. And he says the famous line, if
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you can't, you have a gene that's not from me, it's from
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your mother. Then he calls him on Hassan and
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he gives him the banner and he attains victory.
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He says the sons of Hassan and the sons of Ali and Fatima do
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not have any fear within their heart as he went to the
33:19
battlefield. But he, he brought war.
33:21
He, he, he fought Muawiyah, he fought in the greatest of wars,
33:26
right side by side. So that happened after the war,
33:31
right? Yeah.
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That his closest of companions were brought out and then they
33:35
attacked him. But it's not the fact that I
33:38
didn't attempt it. The Times was against me again,
33:40
same as Imam Ali didn't have the supporters.
33:43
Imam Hussein, you know, sometimes we mention Imam
33:45
Hussein as the person that Rose Zen.
33:49
Imam Hassan passed away. When Hassan passed away, he had
33:53
10 years. Imam Hussein was silent, Sir.
33:57
But no one pays attention to that when I was alive, ma'am.
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Hussein was patient, was silent, you know the ways that he was.
34:06
So he was patient on Imam Ali's being cursed on the pulpits,
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Sir, his wealth was taken, there's his lands were taken,
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the Shia were attacked. All of these things Imam percent
34:18
was patient upon. There are different ways that he
34:21
was obviously preparing for the next step, but that's a
34:27
different area of discussion. But he wasn't just sitting at
34:30
home waiting for the right time. He was actively doing things.
34:33
Can I ask a question on that with your permission to say
34:35
that? So if your mum, if Imam Hussein
34:37
I son was patient in those ten years.
34:40
So he saw and obviously we know in the treaty it says if I die
34:44
first after the death of malaria, it goes to Imam
34:48
Hussein. If malaria dies first comes back
34:51
to me, the Khalaf Hassan. So we know this and we know in
34:53
those ten years Imam Hussein was, you could argue at it from
34:57
looking at it from from one point of view that Imam Hussein
35:00
was waiting patiently for Maharia to die such that it
35:03
could be returned to him. That's what you could you could
35:06
perhaps take from it. And that when Yazid was given
35:09
that Khilafah and Walid Ibn Ottbah and Marwan Ibn al Hakam
35:14
spoke to Imam Hussain in Mecca and he says a man like me will
35:20
never give allegiance to a man like him.
35:22
And of course, in that moment, he, we can imagine that the
35:26
Imam, perhaps they had no intention for an uprising when
35:30
he was, I don't want to say chased out of, but when he was
35:32
forced to leave Mecca under circumstances, it was to save
35:35
the life of him and his Holy Family.
35:38
But why did the Imam then choose to be vocal?
35:44
I know, of course, there were instances prior to Stamina Mina,
35:47
for example, where the Imam came out and scolded the scholars of
35:51
the time. He said you guys should be like
35:54
stepping up, like I'm going to have to pull my weight if you
35:57
guys can't. Yeah, yeah, of course.
35:59
And he stuck it on the scholars and good for him.
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And he he showed that there's, there is.
36:05
And I know there's a political angle to this within the well,
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that's OK, discussion and whatnot.
36:10
But of course he's showing that there there is a role for
36:13
religious authority to have in governance, right.
36:17
So if he had that trait, then. But then prior to that had the
36:23
silence, of course. What was it that triggered then
36:27
a a change in heart or for example, to manifest that
36:30
patients in a different way. The characteristic of patients
36:32
from being less vocal to them saying no, I will stand up with
36:36
my sword and I'll never bow to oppression.
36:38
What? What is it that kind of?
36:40
So it's it's, it's, it's there's a man that you're in.
36:43
It's always about the Zaman that you're in.
36:45
So there's a man that Imam Hussein was in, even though
36:48
prior to that, because you could allude to the fact that, oh, he
36:52
was supposed to attain it before Mahawi.
36:54
Yeah, but that's not the only thing that was in the covenant,
36:57
right. So the solar, a lot of things,
37:00
nothing, nothing he he abided by.
37:03
So it doesn't doesn't come as a surprise to Imam by saying that
37:05
this is just another point that he didn't abide by.
37:08
The the surprise came when the appointment of Yazid occurred
37:12
because he was just so openly disbeliever, basically.
37:16
And that's why it says Allel Islam is Salaam yes, Omar Birra
37:21
and mutli Azid Zen and Islam is gone.
37:24
If if this is the person that's going to lead them, right?
37:28
And so his attempt wasn't to directly go and attack him,
37:31
right? His attempt was let me go and
37:33
preach the correct Islam. When he sent the letters out, no
37:36
one replied to him except the Shia within Kufa.
37:39
OK. And that's why he journeyed with
37:41
his family, even though, yes, we can talk about the metaphysical
37:44
where he knew exactly what was going to happen.
37:46
It was, you know, prescribed from the time of Adam Alayhi 7
37:48
right? But he had the Hodja and he went
37:53
towards Korfa because he wanted to establish the religion of his
37:57
grandfather and Almorum Arafa Anil Anil Monka.
38:03
So he has that. So he's going to Korfa, not
38:05
necessarily wanting to clash swords, you know, with with
38:10
Benny Omayeh. So that was the journey.
38:13
Obviously there's a whole different interpretation of it,
38:15
but every single Zaman needs something to occur.
38:18
And what you're saying is Imam Persein on one side spoke out,
38:22
but Imam Hassan before he's come and read in some of the
38:24
dialogues that Imam Hassan had with Maawih and his hench men.
38:27
And you're like, this is actually what Imam Hassan said
38:29
you'll be like, you'll be, you'll actually be like, what's
38:33
the word? Gobsmacked.
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Yeah, at the, at the level of of what he said to them and put
38:38
them in their place. Before sorry, before you ask
38:41
your question, if you don't mind I have one last follow up please
38:44
on this point. Please tell me, you know,
38:46
there's the that theory of, and I'm putting you on the spot
38:50
saying forgive me, that red Shiism, black Shiism theory by
38:54
Doctor Ali Shariati. OK, that for example, the, the
38:58
red Shia are the revolutionary, are the emotionally passionate
39:03
Shia who will look to stand up against oppression.
39:07
That ideology is rooted in and from Karbala and the the black
39:13
Shia who are perhaps more traditionally ritualistic, more
39:18
protectionist in some ways or preserve, preserve preservatory
39:22
of like traditional or surly principles and so on.
39:25
Now my question is. Which ones are red?
39:28
The red ones. The the red is the
39:29
revolutionary, revolutionary. The black is OK.
39:32
Yeah, so. The scholarship Scholarship.
39:34
Yeah, or like more passive forms of activism as opposed to active
39:39
forms of activism, if that makes sense.
39:42
Is there a right or wrong? And for example, I know this is
39:45
not directly linked to a subal. How do we know when to do what?
39:48
Because, for example, this day and age exactly Suburb.
39:51
Yeah, yeah. Go on.
39:52
In this day and age, this is my point.
39:53
So in this day and age, when you see this oppression around the
39:55
world, of course, we know well Bashful Sabarin, and we know
39:58
that the the furage is what we pray for.
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The furage is the ultimate relief for those who are
40:03
enduring the suffering. But how do we know how to act?
40:06
What is the best manifestation of our suburb?
40:09
Is it speaking up? Because we should and we we
40:12
could. Or is it to endure and to wait
40:15
and to pray and to to build systems behind the scenes?
40:19
What is the kind of the best advice you can give to to the
40:21
general community in terms of communal patients?
40:24
See, it's, it's one of those questions that it it needs a
40:31
like a deep dive in itself. It it does.
40:33
Yeah. Because what does Osola says?
40:35
He said. What does Osola say?
40:36
Sorry, he says Hassan and Hussein, Imam Karma, oh God,
40:43
meaning what? Whether they rise stunning.
40:46
Hassan had a revolution, Hassan had a revolution.
40:48
Imam hasn't had a period of silence.
40:50
Imam Hassan had a period of silence.
40:51
So it's not the fact that we need to cocoon revolution only
40:55
towards Imam Hussein and that's what we've done.
40:58
You know, yes, it was a greatest tragedy and there's no day like
41:01
your day about Abdullah. But the understanding is.
41:05
And if we want to take it into perspective, yes, I understand
41:08
from a theological perspective, Imam Hussain was written prior
41:12
that he will be the one that sacrificed in Karabella.
41:15
But the question is, if Hassan and Hussain were switched, do
41:20
you think Imam Hassan had the capability and the bravery to
41:23
take Imam Hussain's position and do what he did?
41:25
Yeah. And likewise.
41:27
So each Imam, if we agree that they're from the same light
41:31
because of the time. So if if Imam, let's say Jawad
41:35
had a period of time like Imam Assad, that between two empires
41:38
fighting and a period where you can spread the slap, would you
41:40
not have done it? We've done it.
41:43
I said there are people, I said, let's say look at the Zaidi
41:47
faith, right. Zaidi faith amongst the the top
41:52
understandings or the guideline of who to follow as an Imam.
41:57
Do you know what it is? Is he needed to have been a
41:59
revolutionary? Yeah, that's so that's that's
42:02
why they go through Zaid, right. And they go towards Barca, they
42:05
go towards Zaid, the Shahid. Why?
42:06
Because he rose against because if you do not rise with the
42:09
sword, therefore you're not an Imam.
42:12
We don't have that faith in in Shah Islam.
42:14
No, we say in for every time, every period, every Zaman, there
42:19
is an obligation upon the Muslim and he knows.
42:22
But throughout there is a certain principle that's there
42:25
if the guideline is met. Therefore this so Imam Ali
42:29
likewise, like we said, if 40 arise then I revolt, if there's
42:34
not, then I'm silent. Ma'am has said likewise Imam
42:37
Hussain, Imam Sandak says it as well to one of his companions.
42:41
When the Qurasani comes, he tells him I need proper
42:45
companions. Qurasani comes, he goes, I have
42:47
100,000 swords waiting for you. True, he says I have 100,000
42:51
swords. So he says, OK, no problem, turn
42:54
Norman Nana, go and sit in the tenor.
42:57
Right. The oven equivalent to our
42:59
listeners so farasan is like, why would you punish me like the
43:02
Afinia and you know, Yeah, you know she.
43:05
Says you don't want to sit. He goes no, no, please don't
43:08
don't punish me like that so he says, OK, now sit here start
43:11
talking to him, you know how's Karasan?
43:13
How's this how's the people, how's the followers?
43:16
And then Husham in Mekki, if I'm not mistaken, walks in Salaam
43:20
alaikum alekum Salaam husham. Can you go please sit in the
43:24
tenor Sam Annualta and takes off his sandals and goes sits
43:28
inside, No question. Khalasani is looking back every
43:32
two seconds. Mum's talking to him, he's
43:33
looking back and he says do you want to go see what's inside?
43:37
He goes. Actually, I really.
43:38
Do want to see what's inside? So he goes.
43:40
And sees he's folded his arms and legs, sitting down,
43:44
chilling. Yeah, chilling, maybe uttering
43:46
words of the Quran, maybe thicker.
43:50
Tells him come out, comes out, wipes his bit of dust off, walks
43:55
off, looks at the Quran sun. He says to him, how many of them
43:58
do you have in 100,000? He says, well not one.
44:03
Imam says if there was 40, it would be an obligation on me to
44:08
rise. So there's certain things if
44:10
they occur within our life, then we have to act in a certain way.
44:13
So for you and I, for you and I, we know Imam's waiting for 313,
44:19
right? How do we work towards that?
44:22
Because that's the only thing that's waiting Mama's waiting
44:23
on, right 313. How do we work on that, work on
44:25
ourselves, work on our communities, create, you know,
44:29
systems where we can preach knowledge, much like the podcast
44:33
as an example, right? And it's, it's, it's, it's 100%
44:36
application here. Do I do that?
44:40
Is it? If I, if I don't have that
44:41
response, what else can I do, Sir?
44:43
So the first level is I need to acquaint myself with the
44:47
knowledge necessary. That's the first thing, Sir.
44:50
So I can't just be like, I'm a practising Muslim and I'm just
44:54
going to pray and fast, full stop.
44:56
There's there's levels. I'm not saying it's a bad thing
44:58
just to pray and fast. I said hunt a lion.
44:59
There's a large quantity of people that don't pray Sahaya.
45:02
And that's what we're struggling with.
45:04
And we're having a discussion of, oh, you have to pray rather
45:07
than how can we elevate in the ranks?
45:10
To be of the. Companions of the Imam.
45:11
And that's that's the sad truth. That is the sad truth.
45:14
You know, we're still discussing things like what's a what's a
45:17
honestly, I was with Munil, say Munil Khabbaz at one stage in my
45:20
life. And the questions that was posed
45:23
to him is, what's a transparent hijab for a lady?
45:25
That's mad. I, I still remember, I, I
45:27
remember it very, very, very vividly.
45:31
And this was over 10 years ago. But that's the discussions that
45:36
and the questions that a community asks is indicative of
45:39
what, of the level of knowledge that they have in practice.
45:41
That's very true. So what do we need to do?
45:44
We need to educate the community, Sir.
45:47
Educate ourselves. Once we've educated ourselves,
45:49
then we'll know. What to look for?
45:51
How to work on ourselves, what we need to achieve on the next
45:55
level, where we are, where we need to be.
45:57
So yeah. And that's patience because
45:59
that's Ebada and that falls hand in hand.
46:02
Then when we talk about, and you said this previously and you're
46:05
like when you're mentioning it, what do we need to do to just
46:08
sit home? Or is it a passive thing?
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Throughout Imam Ali onwards, they all tried the utmost to do
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as much as they could for the community and for themselves and
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for their families. But Allah doesn't give you
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something just like that. Sametha and Musa Musa, Allah
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could have easily just opened the ocean so higher or given the
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springs, you easily be like that.
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Come to the ocean and I'll, I'll split it for you.
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It says no, no, make an effort. Then I'll come a little bit.
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I suck because you make an action, then we'll come to you,
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show us that you're actually moving in the right direction,
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and then we'll assist you. So you have these things that
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are just laying there in plain sight for us.
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What are we doing to achieve what we want?
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I said. But then I want to perfect
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myself. What knowledge do I have?
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What knowledge do I feel like I need to attain first to become a
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better Muslim to you know, help my family circle 1st and then
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draw the bigger circle, my community, bigger circle, you
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know, my country or community or.
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The world at large, do you? Know what I mean?
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So knowledge is is at the forefront, absolute forefront.
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And there's and obviously we all have limitations.
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And I know you spoke about limitations.
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We all have limitations. And even in the Quran, you know,
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the greatest of the great had limitations on their suburb.
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And I said the Mariam shungarat yalehtini MIT tuk ablahada O
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Tunessian mensi. I reached a level that she
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couldn't take it anymore. She's one of the four greatest.
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Yeah. But was there a roof in Karbala?
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Yeah. Was there a roof in Karbala?
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No, there's no roof. There was no roof.
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There was no like, oh, this is enough or I've had enough.
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Ayub Sabo. Ayub, Yeah, we speak.
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Sabo Rabbi in Lacad Messenidor, it's inflicted me and you are
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the most merciful the saying that you know, I'm at a moment
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now that I need your but on the on the flip side, Karbala, it's
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it's never about this is my and it is nothing more that a person
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could endure that they didn't anyone person didn't endure that
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say that Zainab didn't endure. There's there's nothing you
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know, say the say the Fatima could only endure living in this
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world after a Surallah few months, a few months only after
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a surallah she enjoyed say the Zainab.
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So we're looking at Sabar al Ibadi.
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She knew for a fact she had the mission that was in front of
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her. So she had to be patient really
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like she didn't shed a tea for her sons until she got back to
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Medina when her mission is complete.
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She only lasted a year after Karbala.
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The idea is Mount Passein. It shouldn't start up Karbala
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every time something happens. But all of that was Mount
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Passein. Kakunit to how?
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When am I Nezelibi and Nahu, the anila?
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Whatever has befallen me, it's enough for me to know that it's
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in the eyes of Allah, Subhanahu to Allah.
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So he kept giving, kept giving, kept giving.
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The Wasiya for Imam Alayhi Salaam they gave to Imam Hassan,
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to Imam Hussain and from Hussein to Sejat, from Sejat to Bhattar.
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Bhakar gives it to Imam's side up.
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You know he says isbir al AL Haq boilo kana mura.
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Be patient upon the truth or on the path of the truth, even even
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if it is has a bitter taste, However bitter it is, you make
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sure you're steadfast and patient on the truth.
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Man Hussein's the pinnacle of that pinnacle of that doesn't
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not matter what he needed to sacrifice for Allah Subhanahu
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Ta'ala, as long as you know they say that the the poet says fit
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in Kanadino jeddi Len yestekin illa bidemi ferasio Ferrini.
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If the my the religion of my grandfather will not be
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steadfast and placed on the correct path except with my
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blood, then O swords come in, take me and you begin to see
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Sabar yani yaman ajazet le sabarahimalaiketa Samar.
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So nowhere in history do, do you?
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Find that that the skies and the earth are, you know, like in awe
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of the level of. Patience that a person has has
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showcased Yani. Yani has something if you're
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going to the Muslim of Karbala, where do you start?
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Where do you finish any Akbar Akbar?
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And you know, you read traditions that say Imam Hussein
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reached a level in Karbala. So 4 * 4 times Sakina says that
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I, I, I heard the breath of my father leave him.
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So we've been next to people that have passed away.
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We hear the last breaths, how they they struggle to to inhale,
51:16
to exhale. She says 3 times of the four was
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with Ali Lekbar. But ma'am, I was in his
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patience. The first of which when he came
51:24
asked permission. You know how hard for it is for
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a father to even think about his son being hurt.
51:31
The second is when he came asking for water.
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He says, I, I, I'm at a position where I cannot give you water.
51:40
The third is when he sees him on the plains of Karbala.
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You, you know, you look at Azhar Azhar Abdullah Raviya and you
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you had a position in Karbala where you're holding a six month
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old. And do you think what a six
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month old looks like? And you see an arrow in his
51:58
neck, you know, and, and the baby is fluttering out of it,
52:02
doesn't know what's going on. There's pain.
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And he's looking at you as the father like take this pain away
52:06
from me. And then at the last moment he
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hugs about Abdullah in the traditions Salman Fussain's in
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Karbala. You don't know what's happening
52:14
The the Sky's the sky had to help him up for saying at that
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moment. And Karbala, he doesn't know
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what to do. He doesn't know.
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Does he go back to the tents? How am I going to show her above
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a six month old? How am I supposed to show her?
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How can anyone bear to see it? Or do I stay here and bury him?
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I don't know what to do. You know what the traditions
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say? That a voice from the sky told
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him that Huyah Hussein in the Lahu Moraliatwan that Allah had
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to intervene and tell him off. Hussein, it's OK.
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I'm seeing everything that you're going.
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Through for saying and. When he goes back and he had to
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bury him behind the tents, he had to bury him, you know, with
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the edge of his sword. That's how small the body was.
52:58
That's how small. Do you know how the enemies, say
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the Zeinab sees the enemies? What they did to Ali Azhar, They
53:05
were trying to find the body because there was one group that
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didn't have a head to put on a spear.
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You know, Ahmad of Nasad, in the traditions, he had a spear.
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He said, I saw Hussein going behind the tents.
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So he's taking the spear. And he's, he's, he's he's like
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placing it firmly into the ground to see if it attaches to
53:25
something. They say until once when he dug
53:29
it into the ground, he lifts it up.
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And it's the level of the. Yeah.
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And what, what kind of patience do you have to endure in Karbala
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to, to be at the at the, at the forefront of an example for us.
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And whatever we go through, we cannot come close.
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I think to, to understanding what happened.
53:49
You know, that's what we have of narrations.
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What happened in Karbala is something else.
53:54
When the imams say, if you truly knew what the reality of Karbala
53:58
was, you would die from your things that we we cannot
54:02
comprehend things that they saw that Zeynep saw Zeynep comes
54:06
back towards Medina. What happens her own husband in
54:08
40 days on her own husband? Mum Sajjad speaking to her
54:13
husband Abdullah Zainab comes close.
54:16
He says to Sajjad. Sajjad, who's this outsider move
54:22
her from? It's his wife, move her.
54:24
I do not recognize my own wife. What happened to Zainab?
54:28
What happens to Zainab in Karbala?
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Any patients here? There's a level, but it has its
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effect on you. So.
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I I think when, when we're looking at.
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This, this faculty of patients, it's.
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It's not something as simple as you know, we think it is or, or
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it's practice or it's application.
54:52
It's something far greater, you know, to, to, for us to call
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ourselves patient and call someone like Zainab patient.
54:59
It's it's unfair to call myself patient.
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Absolute injustice, but insha'allah we can we can aim to
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be of those that call themselves, you know, Zainab
55:10
Hosseinis and at least try to follow in the footsteps
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insha'allah. Insha'allah, we owe it to them,
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Allah, very least we owe it to them.
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Yeah. And we when when we go to these
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majinis and we hear them Mossad And what the Arab, what Imam
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Hussein went through wasn't just patience.
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And he had what a heart he had. Yeah.
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Daniel, Allah, I don't know how he handled all I don't know.
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And you gave the example of of Ravi and he has a father and we
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think about the Abush, the Harrow and the neck and all of
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this. I I don't know.
55:41
I know I what Hamdallah, as he says, Robbie had that terrible.
55:45
He understood Allah. That's the part which he
55:47
understood. That's the Clark.
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He wasn't everything to Allah. That's that's the thing though.
55:52
It's like, it's not, it's not you, you know, like it's going
55:58
to sound crazy, but hear me out. Something's happening to you,
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like, God forbid. Yeah, you, you're, you know,
56:07
you, you see a fight on the street or whatever and the one
56:10
man is fighting 10 guys. There comes a point where the
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guy gives up. He says just, you know.
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But in this case, the Imam is not just giving up and saying,
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look, I, I, I succumb to what's going to happen.
56:24
I, I, I concede. No, like the Imam is saying,
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yeah, Allah take whatever you want from me and he's willingly
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doing it and he knows that there's the, the, the bigger
56:35
picture, the divine picture. Driven by Hawk.
56:39
Do you know? Do you know what's interesting?
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This is that that that's the part, sorry, say that's that's
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the part which is just incredible about the, the the
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mentality that the Imam had from the start until his last breath.
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What your point you just said just rang, rang a bell.
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I remember reading Hamid and the Muslim and go go into the amount
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of of in the description of what he said.
57:07
But he says, you know, he says I've never seen a man that
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wounded fighting with such conviction.
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And he says all the wounds for ABBA Abdullah, what is in his
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front, nothing on his back. Why?
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Because it's face to face on, you know, in in one of this, you
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know when I say that that Imam said to us, if you knew what
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actually happened in Karbala, you would die.
57:30
Amongst the things there's some secrets that we need to revisit.
57:36
So you go to Azharat nahin Moqaddesa siaraf Imam Mehdi
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Azhalafar Joshalif is telling us what occurred in it's a maktail
57:44
from one Mehdi's point of view, right?
57:47
So if I remember the words he says Fehwaite, Illinois Al Ali
57:54
Jariha. So you fell to the ground
57:58
wounded, right? Not killed, not killed.
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Jariha means you're still wounded.
58:04
What's the next line? So you know how we have the
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understanding that Imam Hussein, after he was killed and his head
58:14
was removed, then the horses trampled him.
58:17
Zyatna, how was I say it says he was still alive.
58:20
Is as the horses trample him. As the horse trample him, he
58:25
says your eyes Navranthafian ilabatic as you're being
58:31
trampled, you're looking at the tents and your family members.
58:37
Danny, how chivalry. And you're thinking at that
58:43
moment, what's Zainab doing at this very moment?
58:46
Tell the Zainabi it's not just anything you know.
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That's the epitome of someone that is practising patience
58:54
while standing on that tech. When Allah grant lost the
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intercession. And sure, love.
59:03
About Abdullah say the Shahada Ali Salaam shahada of Karbala, I
59:08
see Iran of Sham and all of all of those who us, of us who have
59:15
attended the Majalis, Inshallah, we pray to our last Montala to
59:18
have the intercession of the Imam in this world and the
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hereafter and for the ziyada of the Imam Ayah Salaam, his family
59:27
and his companions as well. What more can we say?
59:31
Honestly, with the Musab Abab Abdullah Ayah Salaam, there will
59:34
never be a day or there will never be a year where we revisit
59:40
the Makatin and we don't feel the same pain if not more.
59:44
For over 1000 years people have tried to understand Karbala and
59:49
as you said said it will never be understood.
59:51
Someone were to understand it, they would themselves would
59:54
perish and this is the promise of a last Pontala that Karbala
59:59
will be avenged and our responsibility is to try and be
1:00:02
amongst those who are companions of the Avenger of Karbala
1:00:05
inshallah. So we we work towards that
1:00:08
Inshallah. Say the blower.
1:00:10
Thank you as all. Thank you for.
1:00:11
Having me thank you for the opportunity to to shed tears
1:00:16
through your your. It's a little bit and we are, we
1:00:20
are, but. Vibrations of the Mossad it's
1:00:22
it's it's crazy and in short Allah we pray you live a
1:00:26
lifelong. As we take a lot of services,
1:00:28
you be told the opportunity. To tell us, in short, Allah.
1:00:31
Happy you say my love, bless you always your family and give you
1:00:34
a long life and good health and short Allah.
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