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Tracy Byrnes joins Bob and Jerry to talk AI, politics, and worthless polls. · Profits & Politics

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_02: Hey folks, good morning and welcome to the morning call show.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Bob Sellers here with Jerry Burke, a couple news vets trying to take a look at the right and wrong in between the right and left.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: Jerry, good morning.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_03: Good morning.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_03: We're going to be talking about the midterms and what a wild and woolly election cycle this is so far.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not over yet.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_03: In Ohio.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_03: Crazy.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_03: Ohio.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_03: In Ohio, Vivek Ramaswamy, who who I have met and is a great uh person, I think, um, is running against a woman named Amy Acton for governor.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_03: Well, there's a new, there's a new political ad out uh uh by I don't know who it's by.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_03: I hope Vivek wasn't involved.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he was.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: His campaign is.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh I've I mean, or do you want to watch it with that?
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: This is you're gonna see Amy Acton's mother calling her a liar.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let's show the ad in its entirety.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: I think I took this from um um an Instagram account.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but let's watch it and then Freebird.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_03: Free bird, how'd that get in there?
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh oops.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's the way we're gonna close out the show.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: But let's bring up the correct video.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is what happens, Jerry, when you try to put a guy who's been on the air, try to do the I know.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_03: Talent should never be in charge of anything.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_03: Where is the man behind the curtain?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: You need somebody there.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's take a look at this uh ad from the Ramaswamy uh campaign.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: I love my daughter.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: But when I saw her lie about her power, it's not easy for a mother to save us.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Lemme has a serious problem.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: She is a liar, she lies about her past.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: She says she grew up.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: She lies.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: My daughter needs help.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: She can help you if she needs help herself.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: People can change.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: But first they have to tell the truth.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: And my daughter still isn't doing that.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Don't vote for people who lie.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Don't let her become your governor.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: It will only get worse.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like, boom.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: I can't believe that ad, Aaron.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's the it's the it's the most egregious political ad I've ever seen in my entire career.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you when you say egregious, let's talk about why.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I I do want to get a female perspective on this if we can.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's bring in Tracy Burns, uh, a friend of the show and somebody that has joined us before, a financial advisor, and somebody she follows it all.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, we don't want to put you in a funny position because you have managed money, you have clients and everything.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna talk about the markets, but the the the reason there's a twist on this story that that makes it egregious to some people is that it turns out that Amy Acton, when she was 12 years old, she and her brother, who was nine at the time, were taken away from the family, from that mother because of allegations of sexual abuse and uh physical abuse uh from the stepfather.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: So when you know that, it kind of puts it in a different context.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: And so far, uh Ramaswamy has not condemned it as some think he should, but challenged her to talk about these things in public, saying we need to debate.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: But there's a lot of bipartisan pushback on this.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I know I mean it's a stunning ad to begin with, and then when you see the backstory, it's like, oh man, this this is painful on so many levels.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a train wreck.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_06: So I think though, this goes to the bigger problem that we have with our political system right now, is that we can't believe anything anymore.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_06: And I think that's that's where I sat when I listened to this for a hot second.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_06: I thought it was AI generated.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_06: Like, so I don't know what to believe.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know who to believe.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_06: And I think a real problem right now for people, especially as they head to the polls.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_06: We don't know what we know is what happens in our own home at our own kitchen table.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_06: Other than that, it is smoke and mirrors these days.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_06: You from you know, social media on down.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know what's real between, you know, the Kardashians, whose butt is real.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_06: I have no idea.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_06: I have no idea who's saying what out of Washington and what matters, what doesn't, who's tapping who, like it is it's crazy and it's very difficult to be an upstanding American these days because we just don't know where to turn.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and if you look at it now, um, I'll say at least this came out a couple weeks ahead of election day, even though there are people voting right now.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um it it it at least there's time for people to address it.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: What if this had dropped the final day before the election and there's no uh ability to go back and say, now hold on, hold on, let's put this in context.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: And again, I'm addressing all this, Jerry, from what we're reading and what people are saying about it and what the interviews are.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: But just like Tracy is saying, my goodness, you just don't know out there what's legit.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because when you first see it, it's like, oh wow, this Amy Actin is terrible.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then you find out the backstory, oh wow, the fake Bramaswamy is terrible.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_06: It's mean, mean too, right?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_06: Like, when did we get a mean society where we're we're slinging arrows at each other all the time?
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_06: And and I also think something about politics as well, that you have to have the thickest skin.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_06: And if you don't want your family dragged through the mud, you don't get involved, and therefore, the best people that should be in these positions take a step back and say, no shot, am I gonna do this to myself and my family?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_06: And that I think is a uh an endemic problem with this country.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, as Tracy was saying earlier, you really don't know what to believe, and there's a reason for that.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_03: There's a a group called the Wedgewood polls, um the very high-profile polling company uh used by both the New York Times, MS Now, and and other pundits.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: They currently had El Cyed in Michigan up by three and a half points.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: That you know, headlines were quoting Wedgewood polls.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_03: They just admitted, the company just admitted, they are a completely fake polling firm and completely made up their polling.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_03: And that's not the first time this has happened.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_03: They should go to jail for that.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm I'm a either, right?
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: We've heard question just about every poll.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think just about every poll, there's a reason you could question them.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: However, there's some pollsters that are really good at it, and you know who they are?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: You might not, because the the candidates themselves are paying good money to get real data.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what what some of the other pollsters do is they get online data, uh, they call cell phones, like Jerry and I have talked about.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: I don't answer a call if I don't recognize a number.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's not like the old landline.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: So what happens is they have to massage those numbers.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: And if you as soon as you start that, you're going in with expectations, right?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, this is how most of them would vote.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: So we're just gonna bump that up.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: Or and and you know, historically, Republicans have been underrepresented in some polls, overrepresented in others.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_02: But it's, I mean, let Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton for whatever uh reason, it was an 85% chance that Hillary was gonna win.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: All the polls were telling us that, right?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: So, and and that was before a lot of this social media stuff got going.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: This that's before Calci and all these so-called prediction markets got going.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: So, any poll right now, but I do think it should be regulated.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not big on regulation, but if a poll comes out and they can't back it up, even if it's a bad poll, I don't care if it's a bad poll.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: At least you know we talked to these people, and this is where we got the data.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: But when you're just making stuff up, it's ridiculous.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, they had early voting in Texas, uh, you starting yesterday, and uh it was the vote count was breaking records in blue counties, which they say is a bad sign for the Republicans.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: Trace?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_06: I think you want to get people out there, and you know, if if blue if the blue side gets out, then the red maybe will rally at the end of the day.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_06: Look, I think to your point, Bob, with these polls, we can't trust them.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_06: We it the whole really all the numbers we get these days, if you ask me, are we can't trust.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, even the jobs number, they still knock on doors and ask people if they're employed, or they send letters out, right?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_06: Again, we don't know what to believe.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_06: So if they said to me all the you know, Democrats are out voting, okay, God bless.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_06: But that doesn't mean the the Republicans aren't still don't have time to show up.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_06: So I think it's very hard to believe anything.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely true.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'm gonna switch this a little bit, Jerry, if you don't mind.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Tracy is uh kind of our uh uh market's uh financial expert.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that's why we really have her on.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, Tracy, I have to ask you this question because I have a I have a theory.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there's something going on in the AI market, if you want to call it that, which has driven the stock market for quite some time now and driven the economy to some extent.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's the amount of money that's been borrowed to plow into AI development, including data centers throughout the country, has actually tended to push up interest rates.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: So it's that much money they're borrowing.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the red flag for me.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: The developers of AI have recently come out and said there's a great threat to all of us from AI.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: We need to regulate this.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I don't remember the tobacco company saying you need to regulate us.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember the oil company saying, yeah, you need to give us some windfall uh uh taxes.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um they were forced to the the table to do those things.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: This makes me very suspicious.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: And let me tell you how.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: You'll appreciate this because you're a financial person.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: All the money that's gone in and has driven this investment and driven up stocks and driven up the stock market are based upon the fact, the belief that they will be able to pay off on the bottom line, that is, in profits, by what's being developed.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: Is that in question to the point where they're saying, uh, yeah, we need to slow down?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: Are they worried, Tracy, that they're not gonna be able to deliver on all their promises?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_06: Totally.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_06: But but so many of them will like so.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_06: I love when people try to harken this back to the internet bubble.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_06: Because I live through that, I remember that.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_06: And that, but that was like we were putting balance out with no with no numbers.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_06: Everything was red.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_06: It was crazy back then.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_06: At least we have some here, right?
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_06: At least we have companies like Microsoft, NVIDIA, companies that have something to it.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_06: I know the whole story with Core Weave came out this week because they are so levered to the gills, and the interest rates are starting to really show up in the numbers that's today because they have now this interest carry pay, this payment they have to carry.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think that this is gonna come screaming down like it did with the internet, but I do think not everyone can win.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_06: Not everyone gets a gold medal, right?
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_06: We have to start telling the kids that we have to start telling the AI companies that not everyone is going to win this game, and you're gonna get pushback along the way, and you're gonna get a lot of you're gonna hear a lot from Wall Street saying, show me the money, show me what you're investing in, show me the result of my investment.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_06: And I think that more and more.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_06: And look, you guys know as well as I, headlines win this game every single time.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_06: And so the headlines are really scary right now that AI is gonna come crashing down and that we're gonna potentially see another big bust.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_06: I do not think that's not that gonna happen.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_06: The numbers work that, I do think there's a lot of people out there taking some risk, but not all of them are gonna come crashing down.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: Jerry.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the future, it just is.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I I do I do think that there could be some truth that uh run amok AI could be harmful to human beings.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know, if they if they take over the power grid, shut the power grid down, or you know, something with pharmaceuticals production.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because tell you that it uh I I use AI.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody has to use AI to some extent.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: If you're not, you have your head in, you know, in the ground.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but I get so much erroneous information or or bad observations.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I have it, it gets facts wrong that I have to point out, oh yes, let me take another look at that.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: And my concern, uh, Tracy, is is the inadvertent result uh of AI run amuck.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: Not that there's some sinister guy that's gonna, you know, take out the water supply.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, that it got out and it was thinking for itself, and it says, Oh, I do this.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: This is a threat.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to release this.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: And all of a sudden you go like my nightmare scenario, I've always said in dealing with China in a cyber war, is that you wake up, you go to your computer, and your bank account it says zero.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: And it not only says zero, but it has no record of you ever having funds from that account.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like then what?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_06: Look, I get that.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_06: I get that, I get that fear, but if it happens to us, it's gonna happen to the founders too, and they're not gonna want that to happen.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I do think they'll still be billionaires, right?
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_06: Sure.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_06: I think though, you know, again, I think there's a little doom, there's a lot of doomsday out there, and because that's sexy and that sells, and the fear might be deal, but putting Congress in charge of AI sounds like the worst thing I've ever heard.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_06: So true.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they do need to police themselves.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_06: I think maybe the industry needs to get super smart and come up with their own version of police of the litigation.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_06: Well, to classify what you say, Congress.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_03: We should put Mitch McConnell in charge.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_03: He is in charge.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the one I saw something yesterday where a guy recorded his phone, his AI on his phone, was talking to an AI on his laptop.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: And when the when the two figured out that they were both AIs, it was fascinating to watch the conversation.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_03: After like going back and forth like two or three times, the laptop asked the phone, okay, do you want to go and uh and use this app so uh that we can we can communicate faster, we we don't have to verbalize.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: And so the phone goes, okay.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: And the laptop immediately starts speaking in clicks and boops and beeps and whistles, and the phone starts answering back in boops and beeps and clicks and whistles.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, send me that, send me that uh video, we'll show that tomorrow.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I will.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: I will.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I did that's that's the thing about it.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: Once it's you have no control over it, yeah.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_03: The human, yeah, the human factor was completely out of the loop on that.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so hey, uh, have you seen?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: I went to see it yesterday.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's gotten a lot of buzz, and now I see why.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, the movie You Can See Everything.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's about it's about Elizabeth Holmes, who was the CEO and founder of Theranos.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, came up with the invention of a device that you could put a drop of blood in, and purportedly, I don't want to misrepresent this, but uh, you could run like 16 different tests on just a drop of blood.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: And it it was a billion-dollar investment or or product, and it turns out it didn't work, and she was uh convicted of committing fraud, I think, for taking something like$500 million from investors.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: And the movie, since you haven't seen it, maybe we'll put off discussing it, but it's fascinating.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: I've never seen a documentary like this.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: I've never seen a movie like this.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_03: Is this with Nathan Fielder?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is fascinating, and um I'm gonna go.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose Tracy now.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you gotta go trace.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I thought you guys were uh done at 10.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_06: I last time it was 9 45 to 10, so I apologize.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_06: I got a client waiting on the other side.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: We're good.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: We're good.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: All right, no worries.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: We'll talk to you later.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: We will talk to you again soon.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_06: And and let's like let's chat for give me as I'll give you as much time as you need.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_06: Just give me a heads up.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, you bet.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, sure.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_06: You guys are awesome.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, bye, Tracy Burns.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh ladies and gentlemen, Tracy Burns.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, yes.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: So, okay.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Jerry, maybe you could go see that movie because uh I don't want to be one of those.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that guy, he is so dry that yeah, I uh I'm watching clips uh of the thing and it's fascinating.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_03: And she's a goofball, you know, with the eyeballs rolling in her head.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um people are doing impressions of her online.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: They they have like girlfriends will be talking to their boyfriends the same way she talks to Nathan Fielder, the documentary.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_03: And and he he he's he's a dry comedian, very dry.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I didn't know if it was a true documentary or if it was a satire.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it is a true documentary, it is done uh roughly a month before she goes to prison, and he gets access to living with um the couple uh before she goes to prison.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: It is fascinating, yeah.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: And it has some twists and turns that are quite interesting.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: I've never seen a documentary quite like it.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's it's an odd, it's an odd case.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, she looks so sweet and innocent and she was smart, but meanwhile, she was a Bernie Madoff inside.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: See, that's the thing, Jerry.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta see the movie because um you're caught between thinking she is uh oddly brilliant, or she is deceptively brilliant, or she is uh playing uh playing all of us, or she has just uh something missing.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so it it and and then the question is her husband.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: What what's the deal with him and the question about him?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: And uh it's all it takes some twists and turns that are really interesting.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: It it it unfolds kind of like a feature movie, it's three hours, yeah.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but uh even at the end, you're going like what's gonna happen?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's fascinating, it really is.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: So uh yeah, Nathan is a genius too, by the way.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he had a uh TV series uh called Nathan Explains It All to You.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh or Nathan for You, I think it was called.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: And it it was you would like you would love the show because it's it's based in finance.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: He would set up businesses, or he would go into a failing business and help them turn it around.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: And usually in a madcap manner, you know?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he went into a coffee shop, and what he did was he he basically ripped off Starbucks and he borrowed their branding, their coloring, their logo.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: He just spun it a little bit, like it was called the place was called Buckstars or something like that instead of Starbucks.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: And the place took off, it became a huge hit because everyone thought it was Starbucks.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's some company that is suing Buckeys because they they claim that they're oh yeah, their logo or something.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: Don't mess with my Buckeys.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um so uh in other news, uh Vladimir Putin, he uh Uh in the is he vice president now or what?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I don't know.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: President for life.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um he wants to have a summit with Donald Trump and Xi Jinping along the lines of the Yalta conference after touring the end days of World War II, where you know Stalin Churchill and and and uh was a Truman then, because I think Roosevelt had died.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: They sat down and divided up the world between the three of them.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: Putin wants to do the same thing.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: He wants he he's suggesting that each um head of state carve out a sphere of influence, he's calling it, you know, so that and that the other two would leave the the third one alone.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: But Jerry, Yalta was a collection of the victors on the same side in a war.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying they made the right decisions uh on everything that they did, but they won the war.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: We are in a situation now in which Russia started the war.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: China is playing games with us with um rare earth minerals and other products that we need, and Trump wants to be with them.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: That that is one of the oddest things I didn't know.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it doesn't say what Trump's response is yet, um, because Putin just made the request, so the other two haven't gotten back to him.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the fact that Trump would even consider it is preposterous.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um I I mean I I'm old school moderate, okay?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_02: Russia, Soviet Union, those are the bad guys.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: A country that invades a free country uh like Ukraine, those are the bad guys.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: And we are more and more through Trump on Putin's side.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: He just did a deal to get to drop the sanctions against uh Russia.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: These sanctions were passed by Congress, I think it was something like uh 89 votes, something like that, yeah in the Senate.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: And now he's getting around that.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: And then he talks to Putin, hey, it'd be it would be good if you release somebody, a prisoner.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: It would make it look like you know you're doing something good.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: So they release a political prisoner back to us, somebody they never should have had to begin with.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um here's an interesting story.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, woke students at uh can't at a campus.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh they're outraged as a sex killer who murdered a woman and left a girl quadriplegic has been banned from college campus, and the students are outraged claiming that the the killer was a victim of colonialism because he's an indigenous native and they want him invited back on campus.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: At first glance, that's ridiculous.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know where that is.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: The guy, this was uh it's in Canada.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he was out on parole after, but you see that I'm kind of torn on this one because he already served four decades behind bars for the for the murder and the attack on the other girl.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so he's done his time.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um should you be pounded and persecuted until death?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well for what does he want to go to college now at the age of 60 or something?
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I um if you kill somebody, leave somebody paralyzed, I don't know.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't have let you out.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's a mistake.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: I uh I really I think there's some reasons you have capital punishment, and that's one of those cases.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know the details.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just taking what you're telling me.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_03: Sure, sure, sure.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_02: So you're you're mixed on that.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he served his time.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: I I kind of agree with you.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Once you serve your time, it's just when you tell me what he did, it's kind of like, well, to me, you shouldn't be out in in society anyway.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: I've got uh two quick ones.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Uh this one will irritate you to no end.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, Trump is he's now demanding that New Mexico be renamed New America.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's just so ridiculous.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't stop.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it doesn't hear.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is what he's spending his time on.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he loves doing that.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know he wants to get Greenland, so you name it Trump land or something.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean I mean New Mexico, from what I understand, actually existed 250 years before Mexico.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, true.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: And before we were a country.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_03: And as as for my kicker today, uh this this I don't know how to feel about this one.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh well, yes, I do.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Virginia man tied his own wife to a chair in the basement so he could go back upstairs and watch football.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_02: What game was it?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_03: What game was it?
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: Some users found humor in the incident with one person commenting, they arrested the wrong person.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: That man just wanted a moment of peace.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: Other people were not as amused and point towards the abusive behavior.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: For though, quote, for those laughing, domestic violence is not funny.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if they I obviously I don't know enough about the story.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: If it was done tongue in cheek, this is the only way I'm gonna watch the game.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's the last two minutes.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta do that.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, no.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_03: She had he he he taped her to the chair nice and tight, and then somehow the cops got involved, and uh they were not too happy.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm trying to find the game, but uh she was tied to the chair for 30 to 45 minutes.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: He was charged with felony abduction and misdemeanor assault.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: I hope that was worth it.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, again, I don't know enough about that situation.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: On the one hand, you can say, Oh, that's just a joke, but if it was serious, yeah, that's abuse.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, I mean 30 to 40 minutes and it tied to a chair in the basement.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, sometimes these games take a while to play out because of timeouts.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, true, true.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like the guy, the doctor that says, To calm your husband down, I'm going to prescribe sedatives.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: When does he need to take them, doctor?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he doesn't.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm the yeah, I don't want to make fun if there was real abuse there, but that that's that's pretty extreme.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Now, okay, so here's part of the kicker.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: You sent this to me, and I accidentally called it up before.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: This girl who plays free bird on the drums.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_02: Is unbelievable.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like a minute long.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: Should we show it or should we just close out the show with it?
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: Close out the show with it.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, I can't because it doesn't cover the whole screen.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: Let's watch it and just admire uh this young girl, uh, her ability here.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: This is pretty cool.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_02: And you can see, I assume it's her dad or instructor who's who's two words, free bird.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: She's better than Skinnard.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: She could be in Skinnard.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: She could be in Skinner, yeah.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, my daughter, when she was little, she told me she wanted to play the drums.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I told her, You can go out for gymnastics.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: I think um play the drums.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but uh, you know, it's interesting.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: My friend Jason Rosenberg, he uh just uh told me told me that he bought himself a silent drum kit, and I was like, What is that?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: And uh well he said he bought a drum kit, and I said, Oh, your neighbors must be thrilled.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: And he said, No, it's a silent drum kit.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: And what it is is like these pads, it's electronic.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: And it clips it feeds into headphones that he wears, and he can bang away on these pads that don't make much sound at all.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: It seems like there'd be vibration though, right?
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well, but they're rubber pads, so the drumstick just kind of bounces off it, you know.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, but yeah, that girl was unbelievable.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: I went to a party one I went to a party a few we uh months ago in which the uh they had music, but you would put it on the headphones, on headphones.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that there's a DJ, and everybody with the headphones on could hear whatever he was playing.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_02: So you would see people in a room dancing, but then you'd see other people without the headphones sitting there talking to each other, totally quiet.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I've never been to one like that before.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: They also had some of these raves and festivals that they have, they have like these um areas where you can go and grab a pair of headphones, and and ever there's like 50 sets of headphones, and they're all playing different music.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh so there's like 50 different people and they're bobbing to you know, different beats, different tunes.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's only one tune to play now.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_03: Free brrr.