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Malukett: Will Wheaton's Geek and Sundry Lawsuit & Death Stranding · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I'm going to say something that's going to shock you and every other person who
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  has ever travel with me welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy go on I don't fly out for 3 days
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  for my trip yes I already packed really yep are you like packed like a
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  normal human or are you luk packed I'm I'm I'm luk packed but I'm Luke packed
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  early all right well I guess the first time you pack I guess has to be sort of
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  more organized than than the later packs that I've seen you do cuz yeah for for
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  listeners the way Luke packs or the way that I've seen Luke pack is that we we'
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  be traveling and we'll get to a hotel and then he'll just kind of like tip his
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  suitcase out uh on the bed yeah it just sort of explode yeah and then he just
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  sleeps amongst that uh as you as you spend time in a in a location and then
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  when we're ready to go somewhere else uh he just kind of uses his arm to scrape
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  all of the belongings back into the suitcase uh and then sits on it to force
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  it shut always get all my stuff packed never left anything behind yeah you I
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  mean the suitcase is big enough that that's feasible generally speak uh I did
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  see a photo of your suitcase you have a uh an R2-D2 suitcase I do it's very easy
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  to spot at airports yeah yep unless there's another child on the plane which
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  they might also have one got my Donald Duck hat in there I
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  saw that I saw that as for Disney I guess you have a Hawaiian shirt from
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  what I saw in the photograph I do mhm that's cool I now want dress nice one
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  day dress nice no like if we want to go to a fancy
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  restaurant you can wear your Hawaii exctly I I've decided I'm going to go to
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  we should go to a fancy restaurant in Paris and I'm wearing in a Hawaiian
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  shirt yeah okay good
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  um I'm excited uh you guys leave on uh you guys leave on Wednesday right yes so
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  we probably won't hear you on the show next week listeners probably won't hear
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  your voice no there's a good ch she will I don't know what the time difference is
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  but I'm taking my microphone I'm taking a laptop okay all right cool I'm going
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  to try to record what's the time in Amsterdam now I don't know I think it's
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  uh I think it's weed o00 I was making I I was going to make jokes about how like
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  you guys are going to be smoking a ton of weed and then I realized it's legal
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  most places in this country too at the moment so it's not even it's not I
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  probably will smoke while I'm there just cuz I miss smoking oh okay I mean I zero
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  interest in smoking weed ever I've got no interest in smoking weed I just miss
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  smoking so you'll smoke weed to get to perform the action of smoking yeah cuz
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  that it's not addictive yeah whereas if I have to go and like smoke a few
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  packets of cigarettes I would get addicted overnight [ __ ] hell you're
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  Keen oh if I'm doing it I'm doing it yeah that's your motto so I figure if I
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  go and I smoke weed I'll just get that I'll get to enjoy smoking again for a
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  bit before I have to stop again yeah but I just had a look in Amsterdam at the
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  moment it is just after 1:00 in the afternoon oh all right interesting so
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  it's very good chance you will hear me next week or I'll be tired or I'll be on
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  a tour of a gin Factory oh you'll just be really
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  stoned or or drunk cuz I have not drunk in weeks well don't don't just start up
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  again oh no I I got permission from the doctor or she just
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  agreed to it that I'm drinking while I'm on holidays well what does that mean
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  though I'm going to enjoy a couple of drinks while I'm on holidays oh see
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  that's fine see that's different to the the implication that you you you made
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  there which was that you just going to write yourself off in 3 weeks no I'm not
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  going to write myself off for three
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  weeks all right oh well very exciting uh there will be a I assume there'll be at least
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  a week or two to though that we don't do a show unfortunately listeners because I
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  think it's going to be difficult to coordinate I think that
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  much I think yeah in like yeah I think next week will be fine cuz you and Dan
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  can at least record y oh Dan's not here by the way oh yeah yeah good point yeah
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  yep um so next week should be fine the week after I think's the tricky one yes
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  and then the week after and then uh even maybe the week after I forget how long
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  I'm gone for but when do you get you guys get back probably before I'm back
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  or something so you guys can cover I don't know when do you get back uh I
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  will be back I will not be back until this is I don't know how interesting
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  this is for the listeners but that's fine I can edit this down into something
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  that's a little more succinct um I will
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  be back on the show on the 15th of
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  September ah cuz yeah I fly back in that week as well right oh look we'll figure
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  something out yeah even if that means that something might just be we don't do an episode
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  but we'll figure something out yeah that something might be nothing right you'll
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  find out in a couple of weeks what happens at the same time we do so um I'm
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  still enjoying Far Cry 5 a lot uh and I
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  I guess I didn't expect to so this is a pleasant surprise but uh makes me wonder
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  if maybe there are some other games that I should try that I just didn't I
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  dismissed out of hand I just didn't think I would like it but I I do I do
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  like it I've already talked about it a fair bit so luk are there games that you
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  think I should give a shot that I perhaps haven't H um you've played all
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  the Gears of War Games haven't you but you've only really played the single
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  player they get a bit long at some points I've played I finished the first
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  one I played I've played a little bit I play fair bit of the second one I think
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  I would say uh and I played a little bit of the third
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  one uh they're all right yeah but yeah they can get a bit long the fifth one's
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  coming out with they're very syy like the thing I like
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  about Far Cry is that I can do different stuff like it's sort of the same but not
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  really I'm doing different things and you're also playing Watch Dogs 2 yeah I
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  can't really think of anything at the moment that sort of you probably
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  wouldn't have played you played Borderlands I guess I've just played
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  everything yep you played all the games in the world yeah I'm no I'm sure there
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  is something out there but look you're enjoying Far Cry you finish that
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  experience before looking for the next one oh all right fine I mean I mean I
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  guess I guess that does sound sensible now that you put it that way because did
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  you finish Watch
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  Dogs no no didn't no no no no you played
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  the yeah uh yeah I did actually uh well I played uh I finished the first one I
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  played a bunch of the second one uh I didn't finish that got distracted by
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  something else uh and I haven't played the third one but I have it because it's
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  on Game Pass so I could play it so yeah may actually you know what maybe I
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  should finish two and try three yeah I probably have a few games I should I
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  should play oh jeez yeah yeah you probably got a pile of games that you
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  have actually even paid money for that are sitting there that you haven't
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  played I certainly do and I just remember that you already you already
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  recommended uh was it hellblade uh yes so probably probably don't need
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  recommendations however podcast at multiple nasm.com if there's something
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  you think I should check out you going to bring your switch with you I am going
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  to bring my switch ah all right what uh what games do you have on it now you
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  only had Zelda right for a long time you just going to play Zelda and Mario Party
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  oh Mario party's good on the switch Yeah it's fun I got a ton of games on there
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  yeah no I've got yeah just those two I do have a couple other games that I've
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  purchased and then never played mhm mhm I've got Minecraft on there oh really I
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  have it on my iPad just for the achievements of course oh speaking of uh
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  switch achievements uh there is some
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  achievement tangential news uh there some Microsoft switch news can you fill
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  me in on this yes okay so Microsoft have
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  just sort of put in a patent and it's I don't know it sort of looks like they're
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  trying to make their own switch Okay so it's it's a paint for a controller which
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  okay sort of one side in each hands and it can connect to a screen
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  right like physically connect to a screen like physically it's and those
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  controllers have been around for a while you've got them for like um handh uh
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  mobiles and right even iPad there are some but yeah Microsoft has sort of put
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  their own version in and I think this is leading towards their project xcloud so
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  their streaming service oh you've got a controller that you can
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  just take with you plug it onto any screen and there you go streaming away
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  wherever you are slap it on the side of of a giant
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  TV yeah so it could be interesting but I
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  don't know cuz I I I like the idea of just being able to play Xbox wherever I
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  am yes of course you do but doesn't really work in Australia yet no not
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  without internet I'm not convinced it would work here either I
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  uh we talked about how i' been trying out that uh GeForce now and I mean it
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  was it was fine but it was not it was not perfect by any means I'd like the
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  idea if maybe you could sort of take this and maybe just download some games
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  to it but then it's you're not if you're downloading the games it doesn't really
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  have the power yeah it literally has to be an Xbox in which case yeah Xbox is quite
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  bulky so yeah I don't know I like I like the idea of it I would I would probably
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  buy one if it came out but I I'd only really be able to use it at home I mean
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  you could say that about anything Microsoft makes you would prob bu I've
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  done the whole streaming I can stream like um the Xbox on the computer and
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  things like that that that works fine when I'm at home but that's cuz I'm all
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  running on my own network MH mhm but this I'd like to sort of take to work with me
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  mhm yes but then I can't really connect to the Wi-Fi at work are you doing a
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  stream with Ninja I saw he's doing streams with people I might yeah all
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  right I don't no I don't think so I might I'm going to get into streaming in
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  2021 when it's the fed's over oh yeah that makes sense yeah when
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  no one else is interested in watching streams that's when that's when you'll
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  do it that's when I'm coming in and striking yeah so those he's sort of come
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  out and said that he he hasn't moved for the money which I don't
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  I call [ __ ] on that well that's the thing he hasn't
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  said what he's moved for he said oh what was the quote I'm just trying to find it
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  um bear with me a second I can't give you guys specifics but trust me money
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  was not the incentive that I can tell you well see that makes it sound like
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  there was something he was unhappy with at twitch or something that he was
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  particularly happy with at at mixer or Microsoft yeah I think there's maybe a
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  project coming up but so vague but to me it's money like all he does is play
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  games I me money was certainly nice he'd be fool not to admit that
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  although he does already have a lot of money doesn't he so I don't oh he's like he was the
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  biggest didn't he get paid a million I mean not a million dollars is not a lot
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  of money these days but yeah but he did get paid a million dollar for Apex
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  Legends or something didn't he yeah just just to play it so just to play and then
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  he was also at some other event where they paid him to go like yeah it's
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  that's money but yeah well he doesn't need money I well it seems to me that he
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  doesn't but yeah yeah I I think there's
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  money behind it oh um and it's something that's sort of weird um you know the
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  Overly Attached Girlfriend yes yeah you know she just quit I I saw that she had
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  and I know that she posted some sort of emotional video about it because she has like uh
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  say depression issues or something that I think what a lot of it is is cuz
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  being in this industry it's not really you're not guaranteed a paycheck every
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  week no no and that's why she should of bowed out like she can't keep up with
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  this you got to keep producing content to make your money yeah that's why she's
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  sort of stepping back I've I've there's a few creators that I've followed over
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  the years there's a guy called Andrew Hong who does like music stuff on
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  YouTube uh and his Channel's great he does like really cool stuff and there
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  was a point where he put out a video that said he has to dial it back and
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  hopefully the point of the video was that he can't continue to produce
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  content at the rate that he was cuz he was just going to burn out um and so he
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  was going to have to slow it down and try something different and uh and
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  hopefully that won't just mean the death of his channel because yeah it's so
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  competitive but but you just I don't know and that's why I don't feel like
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  someone like ninja sort of makes it to that level and sort of just starts
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  taking that I don't blame them yeah yeah yeah like yeah like you you're only
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  going to be in this Limelight for so long and if people just lose interest in
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  you and move on to the next shiny thing on the internet mhm you're sort of left
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  with nothing so you just got to listen to Cypress Hill man save your money save your
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  money well I think good thing about yeah
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  well if if he's smart you buy a house streaming I don't think actually costs a
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  lot of money once you get set up no I can't imagine it
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  does it cost money for the the twitch or mixer not for not for you
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  yeah but then money too 2021 me and
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  ninja you heard it here first folks yep
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  I'll do it for 20 bucks you can afford
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  you well who knows he might have burnt through a bite now do you know I
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  speaking of that uh a show that I've I think I've talked about this before but
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  I I caught a little bit of it yesterday when uh Vanilla Ice his renovation home
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  renovation show have you seen that I haven't seen it but such a strange
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  concept it's it's the stupidest show cuz he does all this really idiotic stuff
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  like it's yeah just he makes all these awful gross decisions but that's why
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  it's funny is cuz it's he buys like these really really expensive houses
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  makes these [ __ ] ridiculous modifications to them and then
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  apparently sells them for for more money than he bought them but uh it just
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  reminded me of the fact that he he was a [ __ ] really famous wealthy person in
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  what the '90s with Ninja Turtles 2 and all that [ __ ]
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  came out and then y like famously just [ __ ] blew it all and
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  then was stealing lawn furniture like from when that's right in the 2000s we
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  talked about on this show the fact that he and his friend were stealing lawn
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  furniture and got arrested and uh yeah save your [ __ ] money save your money
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  invest it wisely you can blow it you can blow it on silly stuff also
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  no that's you also you hear it as these people who win like $40 million on the
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  lottery and stuff and they're the ones that end up bankrupt yeah because they
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  don't know how to they don't know what to do with it they've got like this oh
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  you want a house in a car I'll buy you a house in a car like it's just you yeah
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  you got no you lose sort of winning but if you only win like a little bit well
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  you go out you buyself a house you buy yourself a nice car you have a holiday
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  and then you go back to work yeah yeah you're still very well off but yeah just
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  invest it and then go cuz I mean [ __ ] I would get bored as [ __ ] if I didn't have
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  a job that's what I've always said like if I did win like $40 million I would
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  still go to I'd work parttime yeah but I'd still need something that I'd retire
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  cuz and you would obviously share the money with me and uh I wouldn't have to
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  work anymore so that'd be all right yeah you wouldn't have to work I just still
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  continue to go to work and yeah but no you you need something that you have we
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  share your pay then we that would that would ensure that I wouldn't have the
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  same problems yeah yeah yeah that that sounds great yeah all right so I'll I
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  mean what 50 % of the winnings I I would
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  I would take ah you would I mean I could take well what what what if I just s
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  what if I just do this I sign everything over to you sure and then you would look
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  after that and just invest that wisely
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  for me yep in in a bunch of weird
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  [ __ ] y things are going to get weird around
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  here yeah no no I I need the leopard it's it's an investment it's an
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  investment it's there to play with
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  Atlas yeah I'm sure Atlas would love them well maybe I'll just spend it all
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  on loot boxes because uh apparently loot
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  boxes are are not gambling they are was surprise mechanics that's what that's
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  what EA said right surprise that's what they're trying to call them now um
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  surprise and the weird thing is like like there's been like the UK's got in
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  and looked at them and they've come out and gone no they're not
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  gambling yeah it is odd like they are gambling right yeah it's not just me
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  like they are I I get that it's like it's a little different cuz you're not
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  winning money but you still have to spend money I think the reason why people
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  aren't are sort of not being classified as gambling is you're not winning when
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  you're winning something you're not winning something that has a physical
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  value so you're winning just yeah you well we've had this
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  conversation with regards to the the horse armor remember when the horse
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  armor came out and we were like I purchased it of course you did but we we
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  talked about like you're buying nothing like yeah and honestly for me it was
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  nothing I saw mying these days my horse
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  died and then I never played the game
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  again so yeah but yeah so the industry the entertainment software associ ation
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  has announced that they've got some new policies coming in that people are going
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  to have to abide by uhuh so coming in next year they're going to like all the
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  big Publishers are going to come out and have
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  the what's the word I'm looking for odds oh okay the odds of winning right so
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  you're you'll know how likely it is that you're going to G anything good yeah the
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  the 0.1% of getting the thing you want [ __ ] hell yeah
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  so but Australia still that we're still in the midst of looking into
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  it so they're going to announce in about a month's time I think the report comes
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  out whether what they're going to do with it and I hope they come out and say
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  yeah I got no problem with people going
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  out and bl buying cosmetic stuff but the thing I don't like about it is I mean
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  this is these are products generally speaking they aimed at kids and yes it's
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  just I don't know just this behavior of spending a [ __ ] ton of money on on
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  nothing really like I don't know like I said before on the show like a friend of
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  my work his son every time there's a new season on uh fortnite he comes up and
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  goes to his head and goes I need money cuz I need to buy stuff yeah I mean look
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  I'm no I'm not an expert but I just it does worry me and I can't see how people
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  could be so confident that it's not something to be concerned about but then
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  that's cuz they're [ __ ] making a [ __ ] ton of money money off it so yes well
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  it's like 30% of EA's profit is loot boxes or something I love how whenever
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  there's an article about this stuff like this one uh it's always [ __ ] Star
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  Wars Battlefront 2 that's in the screenshots because well I think that's
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  what that's the one that I think upset the most people because it didn't just
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  bring in loot boxes and his pretty stuff it brought him pay to win yeah I know
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  and you had to get loot boxes right to progress in the game yeah whereas I know
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  that the division has them now but you don't have to do that you can just
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  ignore it I didn't even know it was there for a long
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  time but yeah with this it was yeah if you wanted you you could in the
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  multiplayer you could level up your character very quickly if you want to
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  spend a lot more money that's so [ __ ] annoying I think you could do that in
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  the first one if you wanted to Battlefront no no the first Battlefront
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  didn't even have different skins or anything okay I'm remembering that wrong
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  no but you had to you had to unlock all the guns and stuff right and then I
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  think you pay to do that didn't you did you I thought I thought you had to
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  unlock them by basically using them yeah well see that makes One S that's how a
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  [ __ ] game works yeah this was no you had if you unlocked and you got the
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  special card then you can apply it to here and what what happened to me a lot in
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  Battlefront 2 is every time I unlock something I'd unlock stuff I didn't want
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  to use well that's a surprise the stuff I actually wanted no well that's how
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  gambling Works isn't it I gave them no money good except what
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  I paid for the game I didn't play to cuz didn't look like I car something I would
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  care about I [ __ ] love Star Wars but uh I was so disappointed in the
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  story oh that's right sing I [ __ ] forgot about that yeah the single player
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  was there and it actually looked really interesting and then they had to have
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  princess leer and Lando in there and I'm sort of like they don't have to be there
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  they work in every battle oh I I learned a on a this is our
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  weekly uh Matt's reading a book update um yep and you may know this already but do
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  you know why uh Han Solo's frozen in
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  carbonite in Empire Strikes Back cuz Han
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  Solo sorry H solo Harrison Ford was has been begging for [ __ ] Han Solo to die
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  since New Hope and they when they were writing the script and getting ready for
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  The Empire Strikes Back he was like I don't know maybe I'll do it but I
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  probably won't do another one and so they were like all right well we need to
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  set it up so that if he changes his mind at some point he can just be shuttled
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  off out of the story back out and I remember that in um even during with
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  return Jedi he was basically going I want to die and it'll be me sacrificing
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  myself so everyone else can go yeah he's been begging to [ __ ] kill that
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  character it's like since the first movie like he was like well he finally
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  got his wish I know like he was they want he wanted to die at the end of the
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  [ __ ] first one which is that's sort of weird though that he want that
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  because that was like his second act second gig yeah he's just [ __ ]
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  obsessed with the idea of his character being [ __ ] killed that's why I still
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  think he's going to go back and remake everything he's ever done he's going to
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  do a sequel to everything and he's going to die in them all and yet Jon is next
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  that's his thing yeah well they're making another one right
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  yeah it's better than the last one well I don't think mut's coming back no I
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  don't think so yeah but I don't I don't know I don't know if
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  they are going to make it do you know actually one one last thing that I
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  learned from the book just an interesting quote was that um you know
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  they did the original trilogy and then George was like no that's it for now and
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  then he apparently it was a conversation he had with somebody in during the you
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  know the in between period and he said that one day the children who saw the
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  first movie in theaters will have children and that will be the time to bring back Star
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  Wars um so he had always planned to wait like you know 30
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  years that's what he did yeah like he said he told people back then they were
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  like we you should make more and he's like no it's not not the time not yet
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  mhm so I still kind of wish he didn't yeah
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  yeah
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  yeah Star Wars sorry Craig Right Moving On Moving
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  on uh there was a an event this this
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  past week uh Evo 2019 uh the Tekken tournament oh is that
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  what it is that makes sense based on the article it doesn't say that's what it is
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  in the article I don't think it just I just knew that it was some Tekken
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  related thing that this happened but they took uh clips of solid snake from
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  one of those games Metal Gear games uh and they made like a little I guess
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  funny video of uh of you know Solid
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  Snake talking to snake and everyone lost their mind thinking new character yeah
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  they're thinking snake Snak going to join the game no they just uh they just
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  made that without anybody's permission and said sorry it was a joke
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  and I'm sort of what was the joke yeah it's such a weird thing to
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  do yeah but yeah David hater the I think
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  it's David um the voice actor yeah he was not happy no because they [ __ ]
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  used his work for profit yeah without [ __ ] consulting or paying him or you
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  know and he's contractually obliged to that's why a lot of uh voice actors if
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  you uh people get upset cuz they're like oh could you you know record me a
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  voicemail message or something as a character they don't always own the
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  rights to those characters so don't get upset with them if they won't they want
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  to do it like and and also they don't know what you're going to do with
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  it so but also with this I don't think they could actually claim this as parody
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  or anything like that no it's just kind of weird yeah yeah like I don't what
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  what was that end game here
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  yeah it's confusing for the audience and then it didn't it just didn't really
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  seem to have a point I guess maybe somebody was just a a fan of
• 27:40
  uh of somebody who works for the company I guess was a fan of metal gear and oh
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  cuz the other thing is too apparently the clip that they used was something
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  that David hater had recorded for a fan and so um like it wasn't even from the
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  official game it's just weird so I don't know why you would do this it's
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  just a strange thing to do I guess lesson learned yeah like yeah it's just
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  yeah I just find it weird like they came out and said sorry it's a joke
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  but I mean look we've you just got you got everyone excited and then went the
• 28:13
  joke is ha we're not doing that like that time Dan interviewed Peter Dinklage
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  on this show and everyone got really excited uh but he didn't actually
• 28:23
  interview Peter Dinklage no sorry to to break the news to everybody that was
• 28:27
  just a joke too he doesn't really have attack
• 28:34
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• 29:15
  with well not so much Star Trek but will
• 29:17
  weaton news yes will weaton uh who you
• 29:23
  listeners May either know I think most likely know him from Star Trek as he was
• 29:26
  Wesley Crusher on Star Trek and then he was also the host of
• 29:31
  tabletop for Geek andry and our listeners are probably aware of that uh
• 29:36
  and then he also did a a series on there called uh Titan's grave the ashes of
• 29:42
  vulcana which I guess uh is a role
• 29:46
  playing or or game of some sort right is that what that was based on yeah I sort
• 29:52
  of I the only thing I really watched on geek and sunry was sort of the tabletop
• 29:56
  series there's not much else on there that I actually got into okay but I do
• 30:01
  know that they have some D and D stuff on there yeah well critical role used to
• 30:05
  be on there but they uh they they left they're on the they're doing their own
• 30:08
  thing now uh cuz they realized they could make infinite money uh
• 30:15
  basically yes they [ __ ] killing it and good on them cuz the show's great
• 30:21
  but [ __ ] know that I didn't did not expect D and D to to I didn't expect
• 30:27
  this to happened you know what I mean like when I was playing Dungeons and
• 30:30
  Dragons years ago that's that's [ __ ] interesting um so Titan's grave will
• 30:36
  weaton was hosting it and he had a deal apparently that there's actually some
• 30:42
  interesting details regarding how much he was getting paid uh in here just cuz
• 30:47
  I we didn't have this information before but he was going to be paid uh
• 30:53
  $50,000 and 50% of the net profit from
• 30:56
  the series that was the deal but also they would contain they would retain
• 31:02
  distribution and promotion rights but uh the contract apparently says they had to
• 31:06
  consult meaningfully with him before making agreements and things oh so not
• 31:11
  the yeah we sent you an email but just as sort of an FYI we're doing this it's
• 31:17
  an actual we're thinking of doing this what do you think yeah what's what's
• 31:20
  your opinion uh yeah so now he's suing them because they have made they've
• 31:27
  licensed it out to uh Hulu and a bunch of other places um without even telling
• 31:32
  him which I guess is not that doesn't
• 31:36
  count as Consulting meaningfully um and not only that he's uh he's not getting
• 31:42
  any money from that uh allegedly so I don't know net profit
• 31:49
  well I mean that seems like he should be getting all well at least some of that
• 31:52
  money a lot of money like cuz the 50,000 for he was hired to create WR executive
• 31:57
  produc and host it so 50,000 is not a lot to do all of that no that's and I
• 32:03
  was like how long did this run for that's why I thought this was
• 32:06
  interesting because I mean like that can't be all he did for the the I don't
• 32:11
  know you just assume celebrities get paid a lot more than that but uh you
• 32:16
  know like 50 Grand a year as a celebrity seems low to me it's sort of I mean sort
• 32:23
  of will weiten is in sort of I think in one of these weird positions where he's
• 32:27
  not doing yes he was on Big Bang like he's not doing bad he was on Big Bang
• 32:31
  but he wasn't one of the ones making millions of dollars an episode he was
• 32:36
  and and he's not just getting paid 50 Grand a year I realize but just just
• 32:39
  that amount just I was like oh is that all I would have turned my nose up at
• 32:44
  that he he's sort of above YouTube celebrity but not quite aist he's sort
• 32:51
  of in this in between area I think yeah well I think also I I don't know he is
• 32:57
  above of some YouTube celebrities he's kind of not that relevant anymore like
• 33:01
  no offense will of you're listening patreon.com gasm you can afford it yeah
• 33:06
  I'm sure he's going to give us money now give us that 50 Grand will
• 33:11
  um but yeah he uh people kind of know who he is uh he he might actually be
• 33:17
  more famous these days for tabletop than for Star Trek even I think he's more
• 33:22
  he'd be more famous for Big Bang Theory oh you're right actually good point
• 33:29
  yeah uh so he's he's expecting to get a minimum of
• 33:34
  $100,000 uh which that's for that much yeah that's also
• 33:39
  not that much considering but then again I don't know how much how much shows
• 33:43
  make well I'm looking at if theyve like license agreements out to three of these
• 33:49
  broadcasting that to me would be a fair
• 33:51
  bit you would assume yeah yeah like I don't know that just
• 33:58
  like 50% of the net profit so the show he made 200 Grand like why the [ __ ] are
• 34:02
  they I mean not we did it if we did it and we made 200 Grand like that would be
• 34:08
  [ __ ] amazing but we're not I'm not [ __ ] legendary the the production
• 34:13
  company that presumably but remember profit this is this is after you've paid
• 34:18
  things like actors and equipment and stuff that's your profit on top of
• 34:22
  you're right I'm not a businessman I need you to explain this to me yes
• 34:26
  everyone should take my advice what's your advice give me
• 34:32
  money good advice yeah but yeah no yeah it's what yeah you
• 34:38
  would assume that normally when you hear of lawsuits they're talking about
• 34:41
  millions of dollars seems completely ridiculous but this yeah although I mean
• 34:47
  100 Grand is nothing to sneeze at like if if I thought somebody owed me 100
• 34:50
  Grand on the only way I was going to get it was to sue them I would sue them yes
• 34:55
  so oh definitely yeah but then again I'm not will
• 34:59
  weaton millionaire will ween may or may not be a
• 35:04
  millionaire see Geon sunry has always been this thing that's confused me well
• 35:09
  see I somebody in the comments said uh on this article pointed out with the
• 35:14
  critical role thing that they I can see down in the comments and cuz they left
• 35:18
  as well and I they saying I wonder if something happened with them too but I
• 35:21
  don't know if it's that or if it's just that critical role realized we could
• 35:24
  just cut out the middleman cuz and that's why I context for these shows I
• 35:29
  guess uh financially is critical role and they make from what I can tell a
• 35:36
  [ __ ] shitload of money like on that Kickstarter they did
• 35:40
  for uh for their animated series they made like like 12 million dollar for
• 35:44
  that and I know that's not profit because you got to pay to make the show
• 35:49
  but [ __ ] that's a lot of money yes like
• 35:52
  that's we struggled to make
• 35:56
  500 5 million we certainly struggle to make yeah we do struggle to make 5
• 36:01
  million Luke patreon.com I guess next
• 36:08
  time but the one thing that's always sort of I always weird about geek
• 36:14
  and sunry is like cuz it's got like it was fici day will waai that sort of
• 36:18
  their project but it never really got like millions of views or anything yeah
• 36:23
  look I'm looking at their newest videos now and something that's been out for
• 36:26
  like 4 days is like 13,000 views and it's just yeah it's just weird I mean
• 36:31
  that's still a lot but it's not yeah it's not ninja numbers or uh no
• 36:37
  PewDiePie pew Pewdiepie Pewdiepie I've never seen
• 36:42
  anything of PewDiePie ever I know he just does says his name like that like I
• 36:46
  just said it PewDiePie that's all I know about him sometimes he says racist things and
• 36:52
  everyone gets mad at him and he's like yeah and like hires people to do racist things
• 36:58
  joke joke oh yeah [ __ ] like we can
• 37:01
  talk well not you I
• 37:09
  can so there's some uh exciting potential news here because there's a
• 37:15
  game that I am [ __ ] baffled by and I really want to play just to see what the
• 37:21
  hell is going on and so talk me through
• 37:24
  this so death strange mhm it's um
• 37:29
  being it's from the guy who did uh he he
• 37:34
  coima yeah yep so he's the man behind oh what was it Metal Gear yes which that
• 37:40
  game got that game's always been weird yeah he makes weird games that's his
• 37:45
  thing he does so a few years ago when he basically got out and started his own
• 37:51
  when he got out like he was in prison well no who was he working for he
• 37:55
  working for he was working he was sort of in prison Konami he was working for
• 38:00
  right Konami he was working for Konami and they basically locked him away and
• 38:03
  wouldn't let him go collect Awards and stuff for his last s of year working
• 38:07
  there I'm not joking they had him locked in a Cupboard it was sort of like they
• 38:12
  did not end on good terms and so he basically left started
• 38:17
  his own thing and then sort of was coming out with a PlayStation exclusive
• 38:21
  Called Death stranding mhm the game art is now finally out and
• 38:27
  the PlayStation exclusive is now gone
• 38:32
  ah interesting and starting yeah people starting to think that maybe it's not an
• 38:39
  exclusive anymore and now I don't know if this will come out on
• 38:43
  Xbox it may be that it will come out on PC but there's still hope cuz I would
• 38:49
  love to play this game I need to see how weird it is cuz no one knows what it's
• 38:53
  about still yeah and and listeners if you haven't seen any anything about
• 39:57
  uh Playstation and X oh not Xbox PlayStation PC but we'll wait and see M
• 40:03
  this might be like sort of very strange for them to take that off the cover
• 40:07
  though there definitely something coming remember when they accidentally released
• 40:11
  a [ __ ] Xbox branded video Final Fantasy 7 remake well well the thing
• 40:16
  about it is with the in in the past the the game the game cover did have
• 40:22
  PlayStation exclusive on it but the new version of it has been removed that's yeah
• 40:28
  odd H well just hoping cuz I really want to
• 40:34
  check this out and I was thinking I might just have
• 40:38
  to watch Ninja stream it or
• 40:42
  somebody I don't think n plays like multiplayer games doesn't he yeah yeah I
• 40:47
  think I think he plays fortnite mostly I was I was just kid but I'm have to watch
• 40:51
  it online but uh or if you wait till 2021 you can watch me do it online oh
• 40:55
  that's a good point when's this come out yeah hopefully hopefully I think it
• 40:58
  comes out next year yeah I think there's a lot of good games coming out next year
• 41:03
  there you go ibe it's mainly cyber punk I guess I should start streaming things
• 41:09
  I I keep thinking about it and then I don't but then yeah what's the even if I
• 41:15
  don't if I just stream myself playing I don't even have to and just don't even
• 41:19
  think about it but why is I don't anyone would want to watch me play a game I
• 41:23
  don't understand I'm not I'm even good at them was streaming me playing that horse
• 41:29
  game yeah there was like 12 people watching me play that and I was nearly
• 41:34
  falling asleep I mean I was one of them but that's cuz it's you it's not like I
• 41:38
  know you that's different but yeah like I wasn't even
• 41:43
  fighting that game enjoyable and people watching it was not Luke I can tell you
• 41:48
  right now it didn't look enjoyable uh I mean that as that aspect made it
• 41:53
  slightly enjoyable was that like like why the [ __ ] is Luke playing this game
• 41:57
  that there was an aspect of that I haven't played it again since I'm not
• 42:04
  surprised yeah listeners if you would watch us stream games let us know
• 42:09
  podcast at multiple.com nobody has ever I I don't think I don't
• 42:14
  think ever written in and said I will absolutely watch you play some [ __ ] game
• 42:19
  or I will watch you play Fallout uh not Fallout Far Cry 5 in my stupid [ __ ]
• 42:25
  OCD methodical way like no one wants to watch me do this
• 42:29
  now when you're playing Far Cry 5 do you play how I play and do everything but the main
• 42:34
  story no no see I I've like you mentioned I haven't finished Watch Dogs
• 42:39
  2 yet right and I actually really liked that game but there is a danger now that
• 42:45
  I will never play it again yeah because as much as I like it when I'm playing it
• 42:51
  I do tend to forget about it yeah so odds are still buy this the next one
• 42:58
  when it comes out even though you haven't finished the second
• 43:01
  one yeah potentially but but I might um
• 43:06
  I might uh have to go back and just play through the main story yeah just power
• 43:11
  through I went back and I played it cuz it was some DLC I hadn't played so I've
• 43:15
  done that I enjoyed that yeah
• 43:20
  right one the things I purchased a DLC AG ago but never got around to playing
• 43:26
  it the Zodiac Quest is uh is DLC I think
• 43:32
  and I have that going on in Watch Dogs the Zodiac Killer shows up but it was so
• 43:38
  hard going back and playing it after not playing it like in years so I get back
• 43:44
  in I install DLC and I go I have no idea how to play this game anymore because
• 43:49
  you sort of learn how to play that game with like your hacking and how things
• 43:54
  work but yeah going in and I've unlocked everything
• 43:57
  so I've got all the skills but I had no idea how to use any of them I know it
• 44:02
  becomes muscle memory after a bit but then maybe believe
• 44:08
  it man that's why playing old uh you know like Nest games and stuff like that
• 44:14
  like uh I'm so [ __ ] awful at them but I guess when I was younger I just you
• 44:19
  had one game so you spent so long playing it that you just got really good at it
• 44:24
  yep like uh trying to think of an example even like the first Metroid like
• 44:29
  I'm [ __ ] terrible at that yeah but yeah back in the day that was that was
• 44:33
  the one game you had for like 6 months to a year so that's what you played to
• 44:38
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