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One Good Chess Move Deserves Another · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: If I'm doing the calendar math right, it's right on
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  Speaker 1: the occasion of young Mike's thirteenth birthday that Pink Floyd
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  Speaker 1: would have released Dark Side of the Moon.
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  Speaker 2: Big Player for you.
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  Speaker 1: Or you're a macas, I mean, you're probably busy with
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  Speaker 1: the Carpenter's Library, but.
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  Speaker 3: Don't need no.
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  Speaker 1: That, of course is the wall from a few years later. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: the Great David Gilmore, the Great David Gilmore eighty years
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  Speaker 1: old today, which I know you love.
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  Speaker 3: I love that you're a frustrated disc jockey. I love
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  Speaker 3: I love hearing you talk. I love you when you
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  Speaker 3: do it, when you do music birthdays and you talk
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  Speaker 3: post and you hit the post, which I think is
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  Speaker 3: so cool because it's hitting the post makes me very exciting.
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  Speaker 1: The definition of that is you're listening to your favorite
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  Speaker 1: music stations, like, hey, everybody, buck Damas on the six
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  Speaker 1: sixty as we're coming around on joke Casey of the
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  Speaker 1: SunShot banded, you know, do a little dand make a
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  Speaker 1: little and then when I stopped talking, bam, that's when
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  Speaker 1: the singing begins.
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  Speaker 2: Referred to as hitting.
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  Speaker 3: Hitting the post. You walk right into the chorus. You
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  Speaker 3: just and you cut it cuts off perfectly. But now
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  Speaker 3: do you know technology now in twenty twenty six, I
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  Speaker 3: hate to ruin the illusion for a lot of music listeners,
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  Speaker 3: but all the skill now has been taken out of it.
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  Speaker 3: You know why, now they've gotten because a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these people do voice tracks it. You know. Now you've
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  Speaker 3: got DJs who like are are like the morning host
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  Speaker 3: on the Morning Zoo for like seven different shows or
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  Speaker 3: seven is different markets, right, And so they sit in
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  Speaker 3: the studio like the day before and they crank out
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  Speaker 3: the whole morning show in an hour, and they just
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  Speaker 3: do the intros and all that. Well, now the technology
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  Speaker 3: is such that the intro can be layered over the
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  Speaker 3: instrumental beginning of a song. They don't even have to
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  Speaker 3: do it anymore. And the computer does it for them.
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  Speaker 3: No more hitting the post for them. They just have
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  Speaker 3: the computer does it for them.
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  Speaker 1: It is assembled together with the multi layers of some
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  Speaker 1: lovely personality in some city talking about something in the news,
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  Speaker 1: and then bam goes right into to that record at
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  Speaker 1: exactly right place, because a computer does it.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta tell you a quick personal story. Years and
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  Speaker 3: years ago, when I was in South Carolina, I talked
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  Speaker 3: my dear friend. He wound up being the best man
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  Speaker 3: at my wedding. He was the general manager of the station.
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  Speaker 3: And we had the talk station on the AM and
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  Speaker 3: the music station on the FM, and the music station
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  Speaker 3: was an FM oldies station. And I said, I want
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  Speaker 3: to be I want to do a music show. Please guy.
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  Speaker 3: He goes, Mike, you're going to be awful. You're talk
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  Speaker 3: show host. You're not a music guy. You're not a jock.
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  Speaker 2: Let me try.
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  Speaker 3: Let me try. So he let me do a Saturday
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  Speaker 3: morning and so Denise was listening at home and I
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  Speaker 3: was like to and I was the absolute worst music
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  Speaker 3: disc jock. Yeah. I would say, hello, ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: well you have great music for you on this Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to introduce to you Pink Floyd now
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  Speaker 3: here comes. It was so bad, it was like we're
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  Speaker 3: doing it was like go ahead, but we were doing. It.
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  Speaker 3: Was like Ted Texter trying to do a music show.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the weird thing, because how old were you for this,
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  Speaker 3: Roughly late twenties early You've.
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  Speaker 2: Been doing talk show for years.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a very different conversational thing to the stilted,
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  Speaker 1: sort of very time specific music thing. All right, you
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  Speaker 1: said a word, and I'm fascinated. So if so, it's
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  Speaker 1: the mid eighties, mid late eighties.
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  Speaker 2: You're telling me the story, late eighties, early nineties.
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  Speaker 1: And you're at the FM station plays something you've referred
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  Speaker 1: to as oldies. So it's I mean, like what like
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  Speaker 1: some Beach Boys or something like that, a record that
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  Speaker 1: would be about twenty years old. But just to you know,
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  Speaker 1: a record twenty years old now is from two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and six. You know, Nirvana is older old.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know, Hey, I'm marveling at this whole
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  Speaker 3: Ken Paxton John Cornyn thing. I walk into the studio
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  Speaker 3: right off the bat. My my dear friend there in
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  Speaker 3: North Texas who loves the eminem experience and appreciates us.
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  Speaker 3: He sends me a cautionary tale. A corn And endorsement
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  Speaker 3: will ensure a Ken Paxton vic which is an interesting observation.
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  Speaker 3: This move yesterday, and I'm kind of with you. I've
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  Speaker 3: got my doubts that Paxton's going anywhere, but he's not
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  Speaker 3: kidding that. But Mark, what a chess move. This is
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  Speaker 3: Yep saying that he's willing to bow out if it
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  Speaker 3: guarantees that Trump can get the Save Act passed. Which
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  Speaker 3: is one of Trump's signature legislative pieces of legislation. Thun
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  Speaker 3: is now in a headlock. John Thune is in an
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  Speaker 3: absolute unwinnable position. He's there either has to choose between
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  Speaker 3: actually fighting for a piece of legislation that the grassroots
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  Speaker 3: and President Trump desperately want or admitting it's all been
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  Speaker 3: for show. I mean, Andrew colvet Over at the Charlie
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  Speaker 3: Kirk team made a great point on a post he
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  Speaker 3: said in one day, Ken Paxton did more to support
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  Speaker 3: the president and passed the Save America Act than most
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  Speaker 3: senators have done in their entire career. He's just still
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  Speaker 3: a candidate. It's a good indication of how he would
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  Speaker 3: perform in the US Senate. I mean, he's not wrong.
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  Speaker 3: He's not wrong that. I mean, what a great, great move.
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  Speaker 3: This is still the odds polymarket. All that eighty five
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  Speaker 3: percent likelihood the corn is going.
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  Speaker 1: To be enough. With the polymarket, people say, hey, it's
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  Speaker 1: like a poll. Polymarket is meaningless. Here, here's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's people betting on what happens, right, So it has meaning,
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  Speaker 1: but not in terms of how anything is actually going
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  Speaker 1: to play out. Polymarket is a reflection of what people
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  Speaker 1: think is going to happen. That's not a meaning and
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  Speaker 1: it's not a dumb thing. I mean, it's that's what
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  Speaker 1: people think. But it is one hundred miles away from
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  Speaker 1: people in an actual scientific poll.
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  Speaker 2: And we know how wrong poles can be.
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  Speaker 1: But one that's done well and ask the questions right,
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  Speaker 1: that's a reflection of what people intend to do right.
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  Speaker 1: And that's but one's a very different, very different thing.
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  Speaker 3: But one thing I learned, and I mentioned my beloved
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina. I think that that South Carolinians have been
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  Speaker 3: promising and threatening and screeching about removing Lindsey Graham for
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  Speaker 3: one hundred years and he ain't going anywhere. You know
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  Speaker 3: the po well, because of the power of the incumbency.
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  Speaker 3: It really is hard to defeat a Senate incumbent. It's hard,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just it's just I mean, and here's the
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  Speaker 3: here's the objection to what your position is. And I
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  Speaker 3: saw I was watching some of the comments that were
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  Speaker 3: pushing back against you lovingly, but where you said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: give us the choice, President Trump, stay out of this.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to let us have the choice in May,
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  Speaker 3: Please don't do this. You're we're going to see a
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  Speaker 3: few months of a bruising, gazillion dollar campaign. Money that
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  Speaker 3: is going to be that could have been spent against uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, taller Ico. And and I think from a
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  Speaker 3: pragmatic standpoint, how about well, you know what, and get
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  Speaker 3: off the pot and just set all of our sights
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  Speaker 3: on defeating Taller Rico rather than an internal bloodbath from
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  Speaker 3: now in time.
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  Speaker 1: Bill, So sorry, but we kind of have a question
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be in to. That is, what do
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  Speaker 1: Republicans really want? Do they want con In or do
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  Speaker 1: they want Paxton? And forgive me, if it costs a
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  Speaker 1: couple of bucks, it costs a couple of bucks, and
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  Speaker 1: if it makes everybody blanche at the notion of twelve
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  Speaker 1: more weeks of brutal ads, which it will be so
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  Speaker 1: sorry to hear about that, but it is necessary, it
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  Speaker 1: is proper, it is right, and anything other than that
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  Speaker 1: is completely unacceptable. And that's what got me to my
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  Speaker 1: point yesterday. I'm putting up Twitter polls, you know, said
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  Speaker 1: the Ken Paxton I know would not do this, Bubba.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then I woke up this morning, I
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  Speaker 1: went bing deep breath. Know what, you don't know? There
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  Speaker 1: is something going on here. I don't pretend to know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what it is he's not getting out.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're going to see and look, I think all
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  Speaker 3: your logic makes a lot of sense. Now let's talk
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  Speaker 3: about something else that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday's firing of Christine Know, really, I mean she's done.
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  Speaker 3: The truth of the matter is she's done a pretty
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  Speaker 3: spectacular job. The border is totally shiealed. We have millions
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  Speaker 3: and millions of illegal who've been deported. She's done a
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  Speaker 3: subjectively great job. So maybe maybe there's some there's some
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  Speaker 3: a chess match going on here. And I saw somebody
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  Speaker 3: had a theory that I want to bounce off of
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  Speaker 3: you and your audience. Behind the scenes deal going on.
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  Speaker 3: Trump fire's Gnome. Then they reopened the government funding for DHS,
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  Speaker 3: which this might, you know, remove one of the obstacles
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  Speaker 3: to fund the funding being shut down. Mark Wayne Mullen
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  Speaker 3: replaces Christy Nome. He only ramp He only ramps up
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  Speaker 3: deportations by about you know, ten percent. Trump Trump uses
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  Speaker 3: negotiations to give the left a few wins because they're
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  Speaker 3: all spiking the football. No, oh, Christy Nome, Oh you're
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  Speaker 3: gone all right? Good? Let him blabber for a while,
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  Speaker 3: then he uses the same technique to get the Save
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  Speaker 3: America Act passed before the midterms. After it's passed, Christy
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  Speaker 3: Noman announces she's going to run for Rhino John Thune
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  Speaker 3: Senate seat in twenty twenty eight. I mean, not a
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  Speaker 3: bad theory. There could no stuff because this doesn't really
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  Speaker 3: pass the smell test. I mean, the TV ads, are
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  Speaker 3: you kidding me? The people, the people whining about the
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  Speaker 3: TV ads would run over their own mother with a
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  Speaker 3: with a station wagon at three minutes with Laura Ingram
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  Speaker 3: are here. They all want to be on TV. Do
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  Speaker 3: you think John Kennedy ever saw TV camery didn't like?
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  Speaker 1: And it was John Kennedy who asked Christinoham the question
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  Speaker 1: that may have ended her career at least that's still
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  Speaker 1: of the narrative is told about this this ad, this
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  Speaker 1: beautiful ad that ran all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you're here.
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  Speaker 1: Illegally, we're sending you back. And the ad apparently cost
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  Speaker 1: what was the figure two hundred dollars? Okay, And then
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  Speaker 1: he asked her Trump approved that, right, you would?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And Trump said no, no, no, it is so. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, and by the way, that's a mistake
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  Speaker 3: if that happened. Yeah, I really the reason I was
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  Speaker 3: really defensive about the tv ads and all that is
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  Speaker 3: that I thought Trump approved it. If he genuinely didn't. Look,
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  Speaker 3: she serves at the pleasure of the president. He thought
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  Speaker 3: it was time to go. It's time to go. But
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  Speaker 3: there's some but but can you spare me the oh,
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  Speaker 3: the tv AD and all. Look, I don't see anything
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  Speaker 3: wrong with the Homeland Security chief instructing the illegals how
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  Speaker 3: to self deport.
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  Speaker 2: That was one ad was great. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: So if we take this at face value, and it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like you don't really want to you think something
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  Speaker 1: else is going on here, and you may.
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  Speaker 2: Well be right.
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  Speaker 1: Was it because that she it was too much about
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  Speaker 1: her and Trump doesn't like that that that that she
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  Speaker 1: sort of went rogue a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, I may all the maybe maybe all
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  Speaker 3: of the above, maybe none of the above. It just
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  Speaker 3: doesn't seem she seems to be the kind of character
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  Speaker 3: that Trump really likes.
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  Speaker 2: I know, she wasn't outright fired. By the way.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's on the business card now, Special Envoy
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  Speaker 1: to the Shield of the Americas.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I want to work on the shield of
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  Speaker 3: the Americas. Like, for what is that? I'm a Marvel superherop.
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  Speaker 2: Guard.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to ash guard. Okay, knocking yourself out whatever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I guess she kind of was fired, but I mean
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  Speaker 3: this was maybe a soft landing. At least you still
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  Speaker 3: got a job, and maybe she'll take Corey Lowandowski with her.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, sixty seconds of fun. Remember high school gym? Did
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  Speaker 1: they ever make you do the high jump?
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  Speaker 2: Me? Do the high jump? Me too, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I was fairly fast, and I enjoyed playing like basketball
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But when it came time to
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  Speaker 1: do individual stuff. Hey, we're doing high jump today, I
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  Speaker 1: would develop the croup in a terrible virus the same day.
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  Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty eight, I'm like eleven. It's the Olympics, and
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  Speaker 1: think of somebody doing the high jump. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: when we did it like a door, you'd have to
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  Speaker 1: pup and then jump and try to clear the bar,
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  Speaker 1: which my foot would always hook it and I'd break
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  Speaker 1: my neck. Then something changed. Imagine somebody going over the
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  Speaker 1: high bar today or for the last fifty years.
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  Speaker 2: You go over? How do you go over? How do
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  Speaker 2: you go over?
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  Speaker 3: Did he and you go over.
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  Speaker 2: How do you go over?
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  Speaker 1: You go fron your back exactly, which makes sense. You
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  Speaker 1: don't want your big, stupid feet borne, so you go.
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  Speaker 1: And the guy who originated that, that's called the Fosberry flop,
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  Speaker 1: the great Dick Fosberry in the nineteen sixty eight Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: In there there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Dick Fosbury would have been would have been seventy nine
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  Speaker 1: to day, passed away in twenty three. The reason people
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  Speaker 1: go over the high jump that way today is because
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  Speaker 1: of that great American athlete, Dick Fosbury, born the state
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  Speaker 1: seventy nine years ago.
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  Speaker 3: See what you'd miss if you missed the M and
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  Speaker 3: M experience. These are pearls. We're giving you foot These
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  Speaker 3: are pearls. And check out the eminem extra. It's coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe within a week or two. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: our own exclusive podcast. Mark and Mike just letting it go.
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  Speaker 3: No time constraints, you know.
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  Speaker 2: No idea.
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  Speaker 1: Last week, Episode three wound up next July.
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  Speaker 3: Now we're Father Godfather Part four. All right, have a
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  Speaker 3: great weekend and I'll see you Monday.
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  Speaker 1: My friend fantastic and he'll see us, and we will
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  Speaker 1: hear him for his Friday show, Mister Mike ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Soon as we're done right here on six sixty am.
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  Speaker 2: The answer