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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.
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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading the Bengals Booth
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Speaker 2: Podcast the and I'll be crushing it. Addition, as we
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Speaker 2: take an in depth look at the three players selected
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Speaker 2: by the Bengals on day two of the draft, Chris Jenkins,
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Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton and McKinley Jackson. Coming up, you'll hear from
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Speaker 2: that trio as well as Bengals coaches. Then I'll discuss
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Speaker 2: the picks with my broadcast partner Dave Lappom and look
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Speaker 2: let's get to Day two of the draft. After addressing
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Speaker 2: offensive tackle in the first round with a selection of
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Speaker 2: Amarus Mims, the Bengals chose a defensive tackle in round
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Speaker 2: two in Michigan's Chris Jenkins. He's not a DJ Reeder
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Speaker 2: noseguard type who will clog the middle. He's a penetrator
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Speaker 2: who served as a team captain for the national champion
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Speaker 2: wolfver Reines. It's no secret that the Bengals need to
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Speaker 2: beef up their depth in the middle of the d line.
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Speaker 2: In Cincinnati got Dane Brugler's third rated defensive tackle with
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Speaker 2: a forty ninth overall pick. Here's Zach Taylor.
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Speaker 3: He was a priory position, but again, we weren't just
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Speaker 3: gonna take anybody, and we were very fortunate the way
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Speaker 3: it fell. We had high marks on Chris and so
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Speaker 3: thank goodness he was there. But he was a priory
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Speaker 3: position for us, but at the same time, we weren't
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Speaker 3: just gonna take anybody, and he was one that we
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Speaker 3: specifically targeted, and so we were we were happy he
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Speaker 3: was at forty nine.
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Speaker 2: Jenkins lacks ideal size, He's six to two hundred and
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Speaker 2: ninety nine pounds, but he's an excellent athlete who earned
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Speaker 2: the nickname the Mutant from his strength coach at Michigan.
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Speaker 4: Our same coach, Coach Hurd, gave it to me because
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Speaker 4: I just went above and beyond in the weight room
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Speaker 4: and I did some things that you know, people looking
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Speaker 4: at me wouldn't expect me to do, and he said,
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Speaker 4: my mentality, you know, how I carry myself, how I
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Speaker 4: pushed through adversity, injury, anything, is a mutant mentality. And
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Speaker 4: that's where he gave the name to me my sophomore
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Speaker 4: year and it stuck ever since.
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Speaker 2: The Mutant is the son of a four time Pro Bowler.
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Speaker 2: His dad, Chris Senior, spent ten years in the NFL
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Speaker 2: with the Panthers in Jets. In the next round, the
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Speaker 2: Bengals picks were announced by former Pro Bowl receiver TJ.
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Speaker 2: Hushman Zada, and it seemed like fate when TJ announced
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Speaker 2: the Bengals first third round pick.
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Speaker 5: So this pick means this pick means something to me
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Speaker 5: as I've been training this kid for a long time
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Speaker 5: and now he's gonna be drafted by the Bingles. So
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Speaker 5: with the eightieth pig in a twenty twenty four NFL draft,
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Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bingals select Jermaine Burdon wide receiver Alabama.
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Speaker 2: Burton spent his first two college seasons at Georgia before
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Speaker 2: finishing with two years at Alabama. He's six feet tall,
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Speaker 2: a solid one hundred ninety six pounds, and ran a
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Speaker 2: four four five forty at the combine in his college career,
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Speaker 2: he averaged eighteen yards to catch. Here's offensive coordinator Dan
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Speaker 2: Pitcher on how Burton will fit with Jamar Chase and
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Speaker 2: t Higgins.
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Speaker 6: He'll fig great. I mean, he's explosive, and so that's
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Speaker 6: really our job now as to how do we mix
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Speaker 6: and match those skill sets. But what he brings to
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Speaker 6: the table with regard to the threat he's gonna post
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Speaker 6: to the defense, how they're gonna have to respect all
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Speaker 6: three of those players in the explosiveness they bring. We'll
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Speaker 6: figure that part out, but he'll take care of the
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Speaker 6: hard part, which is separating from defense and catching the football.
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Speaker 2: As for that Hushman's out of connection. Burton says that
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Speaker 2: it's crazy that DJ announced his pick and that he's
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Speaker 2: going to his former team.
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Speaker 7: You know, it's honestly amazing, you know, having TJ train me,
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Speaker 7: you know throughout these past few years of you know,
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Speaker 7: even going into college. You know, working with him is
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Speaker 7: you know, is honestly great. It's just just to know
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Speaker 7: his history and his background with the game of football,
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Speaker 7: that his knowledge on it, and you know, to see
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Speaker 7: the way he thinks and you know the way he
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Speaker 7: put puts it into the drills and you know, the
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Speaker 7: way he talks to you and his terminology. You know,
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Speaker 7: it's just it's a It really helps me. And you
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Speaker 7: know we also developed a relationship, you know, to the point,
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Speaker 7: you know we talk about other things and you know,
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Speaker 7: just life things and you know, just a lot of
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Speaker 7: maturity growth.
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Speaker 2: With their second pick in the third round, number ninety
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Speaker 2: seven overall, the Bengals doubled down on defensive tackle and
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Speaker 2: chose McKinley Jackson out of Texas A and M who
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Speaker 2: addresses the void left by the departure of DJ Reader.
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Speaker 3: He's a guy we've talked a lot about, you know.
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Speaker 3: He he fits a good spot for us. You know,
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Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty pound nose guard. There's not a
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Speaker 3: lot of those in the draft. He's a guy that
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Speaker 3: we had rated highly and he was sitting right there
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Speaker 3: for us in the third rounds was the right spot
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Speaker 3: to take him. I don't think you ever go wrong
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Speaker 3: adding to your defensive line. You know, as a head coach,
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Speaker 3: as an offensive play caller that faces faces these guys
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Speaker 3: every every week and you have to prepare for him.
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Speaker 3: Depth at defensive tackle defensive end is critical and if
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Speaker 3: you don't have it, if all of a sudden, you
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Speaker 3: come up short, it doesn't matter what's going on behind it,
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Speaker 3: you know. So I think that's the number one thing
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Speaker 3: to take the pressure off the back seven is to
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Speaker 3: continue to add to your defensive line. And we had
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Speaker 3: the opportunity to do that today and makes me sleep
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Speaker 3: a lot better at night.
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Speaker 2: Jackson was a two time captain at A and M
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Speaker 2: and says he'll be a fit on the Bengals defense.
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Speaker 1: You know, I played football. I no matter what the
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Speaker 1: system it is. You know our cent I get the
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Speaker 1: better word. I want to get to play book and
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Speaker 1: you know brings the championship.
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Speaker 2: for analysis of Day two and I'll look ahead to
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Speaker 2: the final four rounds of the draft with my broadcast
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Speaker 2: partner Dave Lapham. All Right, lap Let's start with the
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Speaker 2: Bengals second round draft pick defensive tackle Chris Jenkins out
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Speaker 2: of Michigan, a captain on a national championship team, the
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Speaker 2: son of a four time pro bowler, and obviously somebody
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Speaker 2: the Bengals are going to be counting on this year
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Speaker 2: to be an important part of their defensive tackle rotation,
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Speaker 2: no question.
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Speaker 8: You know, this kid is six two and a half,
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Speaker 8: about three hundred pounds, runs five forty He's got good
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Speaker 8: arm length to thirty four inches, wingspans almost eighty inches.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's and the thing, the.
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Speaker 8: Thing that's been impressive to me, and with the liberalization
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Speaker 8: of the rules and earthing and athletics, starts with the
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Speaker 8: feed ends.
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Speaker 1: With your hands. All of these guys.
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Speaker 8: The the the Bengals are drafted in the interior of
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Speaker 8: the defensive line, of the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: Big strong, massive hands, and that that hand strength is
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Speaker 1: a big deal.
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Speaker 8: I mean, if he gets you in the position, now
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Speaker 8: you're allowed to get your hands within the framework of
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Speaker 8: the body clamp on them. Those big strong muckers that
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Speaker 8: these guys have and control people. And uh, he he
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Speaker 8: really does does a nice job with his with his hands.
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Speaker 8: There's no question he's got excellent functional football strength. In
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Speaker 8: my estimation, powerful athletic. You know, he's more of a
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Speaker 8: three technique. He slided out to a five technique occasionally. Uh,
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Speaker 8: you know, very physical at the point of attack. He
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Speaker 8: keeps his pad level down. He's uh, you know, he's
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Speaker 8: a he's a damn good football player. He's got lateral
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Speaker 8: movement skills that that are solid.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's not knocked off his feet.
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Speaker 8: He can stack and ship people pretty darn well good
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Speaker 8: pursued angles to the football. Uh, he's a he's an
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Speaker 8: excellent football player.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: He, like you say, grew up.
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Speaker 8: Around the game with his dad playing at the at
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Speaker 8: the at the high level that that his dad played at.
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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he's he's definitely.
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Speaker 8: Uh, he's he's got you know, quickness, can get around
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Speaker 8: the blockers need be so he can change that up.
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Speaker 1: He can bull rush you.
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Speaker 8: I mean, he's got a mirriad of ways to pressure
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Speaker 8: the quarterback too. He is more of a three technique
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Speaker 8: kind of guy, though he's not the nose tackle kind
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Speaker 8: of guy. And the Bengals did address that, you know,
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Speaker 8: later on in the in the draft, but he was
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Speaker 8: on the board at that spot. He was obviously the
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Speaker 8: best guy on their board, and they stayed true to
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Speaker 8: their board, and they go and they get you know,
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Speaker 8: a guy that is very, very consistent in his effort.
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. He's a solid NFL prospect.
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Speaker 8: But I do think he plays the run better than
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Speaker 8: the past at this point in time. But that's what's
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Speaker 8: asked of him at Michigan, you know, that's.
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Speaker 1: Basically the way they have their defensive lineman play in
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Speaker 1: their front seven play.
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Speaker 8: So I think he can be you know, developed, I
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Speaker 8: think pretty quickly and effectively. Is a little bit better
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Speaker 8: pass rusher than he show up to college.
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Speaker 2: He's not a gigantic man like Amarius Mims that we
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Speaker 2: met earlier today. Chris Jenkins is about six three, weighed
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Speaker 2: in at two hundred and ninety nine pounds, But the
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Speaker 2: old Michigan strength coach who followed Jim Harbaugh out to
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Speaker 2: the Chargers nicknamed him the Mutant when he was a
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Speaker 2: sophomore in college for his performances in the weight room
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Speaker 2: and his attitude, you know, when times were tough. So
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Speaker 2: sometimes you don't have to be three hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: pounds to impose your will on the defensive line.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, And he's you know you can probably you didn't
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Speaker 8: get a little bit bigger as he matures, you know,
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Speaker 8: I mean he's uh, he's got that like Randy White
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Speaker 8: was the manster part man park monster. That's what I
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Speaker 8: think Jenkins aspires.
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Speaker 1: To be, you know.
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Speaker 8: And and honestly, the Bengals the way they are, you know,
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Speaker 8: addressing things with the offensive line is the land of
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Speaker 8: the Giants, and they're trying to compete with that title
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Speaker 8: with with what they're trying to do on the interior.
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Speaker 8: And uh, it's Are all these guys gonna be starters?
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Speaker 1: No, not necessarily. Will they be in a rotation?
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Speaker 8: Hell yeah, I'll be in a rotation in some way,
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Speaker 8: shape or form. Eight guys all made all eight Brookies
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Speaker 8: last year. They all made the football team. They all
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Speaker 8: had a role initially expanded upon those roles. And the
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Speaker 8: three guys that they have drafted in uh in the
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Speaker 8: first two rounds, uh in this in this draft, in
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Speaker 8: the national and first.
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Speaker 1: Three rounds, I should say that for the first four.
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Speaker 8: Guys they drafted, I think we'll all make the football
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Speaker 8: team and have a significant role. So that's their last
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Speaker 8: eleven draft picks. You know, it's they've they've done a
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Speaker 8: damn good job. And honestly, the way the National Football
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Speaker 8: League is today, when you're paying your quarterback pick dollars
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Speaker 8: and you're gonna pay multiple receivers potentially big dollars.
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Speaker 1: You have to put the bat on the ball.
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Speaker 8: You have to have rookies that can contribute, because you
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Speaker 8: know they're under rookie contracts, and that's.
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Speaker 1: The way you can control that that salary cap. So
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Speaker 1: the draft becomes more and more important. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I think it's very easy.
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Speaker 8: To have a great draft like they did in twenty
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Speaker 8: twenty when they had the first pick in every round.
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 8: And honestly, I think the closer you get to the
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Speaker 8: end of the round, like when they went to the
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Speaker 8: Super Bowl, I think that is a good spot to
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Speaker 8: be too, because you can always pick up the guys
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Speaker 8: that slid. Oh man, this guy's still here. Oh my god,
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Speaker 8: we didn't expect he'd be here before he slides.
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Speaker 1: The second round. Let's clean this up. You do that
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Speaker 1: every round.
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Speaker 8: I think you can set yourself off for a decent draft.
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Speaker 8: I mean, Kansas City's made a living on it. But
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Speaker 8: if you're in the middle of the round, now it's like, oh,
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Speaker 8: do we contribute to the slide of this player or
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Speaker 8: should we end the slide or do we have somebody
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Speaker 8: you know a little bit better on our draft board.
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Speaker 1: It does. It's so not a need. We don't want
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Speaker 1: to go there. I mean, I think the middle of
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Speaker 1: the round can be.
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Speaker 8: Almost one of the more difficult spots to pick, and
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Speaker 8: I think they're doing a hell of a job of
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Speaker 8: kicking quality flares.
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Speaker 1: At that point.
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Speaker 2: Let's jump to the third round and actually go to
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Speaker 2: their second third round pick, since they doubled down at
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Speaker 2: the defensive tackle position and selected McKinley Jackson number ninety
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Speaker 2: seven overall. According to Dame Brugler of The Athletic, he
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Speaker 2: had a sixth or seventh round grade, so maybe the
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Speaker 2: Bengals took him a little bit higher than some of
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Speaker 2: the experts expected. But this is more of a DJ
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Speaker 2: Reader type replacement. This is a large man three d
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Speaker 2: and twenty five pounds, two time captain at Texas A
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Speaker 2: and m Lunarumo told reporters after the selection that he
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Speaker 2: is close to the ball nose tackle shade type guy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he is. He's a zero technique of
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Speaker 8: one technique compilation of of the mock drafts.
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Speaker 1: That I saw.
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Speaker 8: I had him as the third rounder. You know it
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Speaker 8: was I don't know. I mean, everybody has has has
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Speaker 8: differences of opinion. That's what makes the draft so beautiful
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Speaker 8: because it's totally non scientific. But the Bengals obviously had
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Speaker 8: him rated decently on their board into the third round
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Speaker 8: because I thought, wow, it might go exactly as I
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Speaker 8: had hoped. You know, you start out with an offensive
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Speaker 8: tackle and then you a receiver is pick, a defensive
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Speaker 8: tackles picked, and a receiver's pick. Then they doubled down
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Speaker 8: on defensive tackle because more cornerbacks were off the board.
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Speaker 1: They had defensive tackle.
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Speaker 8: In this In this case, I mean, Kenley Jackson rated
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Speaker 8: higher than the remaining quarterback and our cornerbacks on their
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Speaker 8: big board, and uh, you know it's like he's a
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Speaker 8: he's basically a zero technique in the yard front. I mean,
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Speaker 8: he's the he's the nose tackle they're looking for. And
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Speaker 8: for a guy you know that's gonna play that.
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Speaker 1: He's six one and a half. You know, he's he's
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Speaker 1: got decent, decent height, He's got long arms. Though, man,
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a burly dude. Man, he's put together.
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Speaker 1: But at three hundred and.
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Speaker 8: Twenty six pounds, he's almost got.
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Speaker 1: A thirty four inch you know length to his arms.
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Speaker 8: He's got a ten inch and in a wingspan of
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Speaker 8: over eighty inches. So they're doing a tremendous job of
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Speaker 8: of You know, a guy with with that type of
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Speaker 8: that type of body is one of those dudes that
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Speaker 8: entire shoes without bending over. You know, he's he's he's
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Speaker 8: gonna be able to control you with those long arms
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Speaker 8: and those strong hands. He's an impressive athlete for his size.
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Speaker 8: You know, there's no question. I mean, he has quick feeding.
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Speaker 8: He plays low. When he doesn't, he's gonna have issues,
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Speaker 8: There's no question about that. I mean, I know I've
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Speaker 8: seen him get moved pretty well on some double teams.
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Speaker 8: But he's he's got a lot of masks and if
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Speaker 8: he handles it right, he's a damn good uh two
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Speaker 8: gap defender.
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Speaker 1: There's no question about that.
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Speaker 8: He's got strength, he's got athleticism. You know, he'll he
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Speaker 8: does have like he'll he'll he'll snatch you and swim
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Speaker 8: a little bit. You know, he's he's a he's a
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Speaker 8: brute strength kind of guy. You know, he's a and
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Speaker 8: it's not like he can't play a defense where it's
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Speaker 8: a penetration into gaps. He's got the versatility to do that,
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Speaker 8: I will, playing both in a one gap and the
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Speaker 8: two gap kind of scenario. So he gives Lure in
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Speaker 8: a amos some versatility in that regard. And again talking
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Speaker 8: about the hands, he's got violent hands, I mean strong
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Speaker 8: lower body, uh, strong moodor second effort guy. Sometimes you
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Speaker 8: know he is he's got his nose over his skis
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Speaker 8: and he ends up on the ground a little bit
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Speaker 8: against single blocks, which.
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Speaker 1: You know that can be corrected very easily.
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Speaker 8: So he's I think, I think he's you know, he
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Speaker 8: looks maybe he's a little bit tight in his hips.
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Speaker 8: That might be the only you know, knock that you
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Speaker 8: can you can throw out there with him. But again,
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Speaker 8: I think they gave up eighty two plays of twenty
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Speaker 8: yards or more.
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Speaker 1: And if you have trouble stopping.
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Speaker 8: The run and give up big plays in the running game,
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Speaker 8: you're going to get crushed in the passing game.
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Speaker 1: And some of it was getting beaten physically.
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Speaker 8: A lot of it was you know, metal mistakes hit
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Speaker 8: and raw gaps and breaking down and coverages and that
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Speaker 8: sort of thing. But what you want to do is
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Speaker 8: rectify any of the problems that you have from a
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Speaker 8: physical standpoint. And you lose DJ reader, you got to
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Speaker 8: do something, man. You've got to get some people that
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Speaker 8: you can rotate in there to plug up that running game,
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Speaker 8: particularly in this division. And it was amazing to me
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Speaker 8: to watch the Pittsburgh Steelers almost duplicate every position Bengals took.
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Speaker 1: They took one. It was unbelievable.
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Speaker 8: Bengals take an offensive lineman, they take one. Bengals take
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Speaker 8: an interior defensive limon, they take one. You know, Bengals
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Speaker 8: take a wide receiver. They seemed to me it was amazing.
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Speaker 8: So Baltimore, I think did their solid job. Cleveland didn't
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Speaker 8: have a whole lot of a lot of hooks in the.
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Speaker 9: Initial stages, but in this division you'd have to be
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Speaker 9: able to be pig physical and run the ball with
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Speaker 9: some a modicum of consistency and stop the run with
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Speaker 9: a bigger mod consistency.
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Speaker 2: So in between the two defensive tackles selected, there was
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Speaker 2: a wide receiver. Jermaine Burton started his college career Georgia,
18:42
Speaker 2: spent two years there, finished it at Alabama, spent two
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Speaker 2: years there and averaged eighteen yards per catch, playing four
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Speaker 2: seasons in the SEC. The word explosive jumps out when
18:54
Speaker 2: you watch the tape of Jermaine Burton.
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Speaker 1: Jermaine Burton is a dog.
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Speaker 8: I mean there's no other, no better way, and I
19:03
Speaker 8: mean that in a good way of four years starter.
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Speaker 1: He said in Georgia for a couple then he goes
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Speaker 1: to Alabama. I mean, this.
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Speaker 8: Guy is you know, he he averaged a career high
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Speaker 8: twenty and a half catch yards per catch last year,
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Speaker 8: number one in the SEC.
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Speaker 1: We're talking SEC.
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Speaker 8: We're talking Georgia, We're talking Alabama. He plays with definitely
19:23
Speaker 8: a swagger. He plays with a toughness who worked the
19:27
Speaker 8: middle of the field and and and be physical in
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Speaker 8: that area of it.
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Speaker 1: He can get vertical in a hurry. He's got speed
19:35
Speaker 1: and he's a quality route runner. You can you know,
19:38
Speaker 1: with that speed, he can sink his hips and get
19:41
Speaker 1: in and out of cuts.
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Speaker 8: He's got an extremely low drop rate, it's the most
19:47
Speaker 8: the lowest in this class of wide receivers. And you
19:50
Speaker 8: know he had some off the field issues. I think
19:53
Speaker 8: part of that was due to his competitive nature. Uh
19:58
Speaker 8: to be I guess about it. But that's a matter
20:02
Speaker 8: of maturity, a matter of growing up a little bit.
20:04
Speaker 8: And I think that it's not like they feel like
20:09
Speaker 8: he's you know, he robbed a bank or he's got an.
20:11
Speaker 1: Alcoholic drug problem or whatever. And this locker room is
20:14
Speaker 1: is solid. I mean, it's it's got a lot of uh,
20:18
Speaker 1: a lot of high quality guys in it.
20:20
Speaker 8: And I'm sure they feel like the wide receiver room
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Speaker 8: and the coach of the wide receiver room is a
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Speaker 8: former player himself, and they feel like they can probably
20:28
Speaker 8: help this guy in that maturation process a little bit.
20:31
Speaker 8: And again we talk about hands. His hands were oversized,
20:35
Speaker 8: his frame for his body type, and the statshers out
20:38
Speaker 8: of that football pretty down done, effectively plays through contact,
20:42
Speaker 8: and the dude's fielders. There's no doubt about it. Like
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Speaker 8: I said, I mean, he's a dog. There's I thought, Okay, Well,
20:48
Speaker 8: then in the corner of it, and then it's like
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Speaker 8: Burton heat he's he's the best.
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Speaker 1: He's the best. He's got the most.
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Speaker 8: Talent that's left on the board put up you know,
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Speaker 8: significant nun numbers against the best players in college football,
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Speaker 8: in the conference that college football has to offer.
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Speaker 1: So I like to pick man. I'm excited to see
21:11
Speaker 1: high he blossoms.
21:12
Speaker 2: And the Bengals definitely vetted his character. They took one
21:16
Speaker 2: of their visits that they're allowed to have with players
21:18
Speaker 2: at the Combine and used it on him. Then they
21:21
Speaker 2: used one of their thirty you know, visits in Cincinnati
21:25
Speaker 2: that they're allowed to have on him. So they took
21:28
Speaker 2: a couple of opportunities to talk to him to get
21:31
Speaker 2: to the bottom of some of these things that happened,
21:33
Speaker 2: including a postgame incident in a game against Tennessee. And
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Speaker 2: they came away from those two meetings thinking, you know what,
21:39
Speaker 2: this is a good person that's made a couple of
21:41
Speaker 2: mistakes and he's going to fit in nicely here, right, you.
21:44
Speaker 8: Know, competitive nature of losing the temper, you know, confrontation
21:48
Speaker 8: with the band, I mean, those are things that do
21:52
Speaker 8: you want it to be something that happens with any.
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Speaker 1: Kind of regularity?
21:56
Speaker 8: Now, I mean, do you think possibly he may have
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Speaker 8: learned something, you know, maybe maybe uh you know, in
22:05
Speaker 8: Alabama can can help him get some counseling, Maybe the
22:08
Speaker 8: Bengals can help get some consoling and control his temp
22:11
Speaker 8: a little bit. But part of that is what makes
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Speaker 8: him such a good football player.
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Speaker 1: Man. The dude is competitive. He is a d a
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Speaker 1: W G. Dog.
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Speaker 2: Well, he spent the last few years training in the
22:23
Speaker 2: off season under t J. Hushman Zada another guy who
22:26
Speaker 2: could be described as a dog in his playing days.
22:29
Speaker 2: And you know, if he's got TJ's stamp of approval,
22:32
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.
22:34
Speaker 1: I hear that.
22:35
Speaker 8: And you know, here's a guy that you know, four
22:37
Speaker 8: four five, you know, in his arms thirty one inches,
22:40
Speaker 8: I mean his wingspans almost seventy five inches, uh, you know,
22:45
Speaker 8: and and a little over six feet hundred ninety six pounds.
22:48
Speaker 8: I mean, he's uh, he's done. He's done a lot
22:51
Speaker 8: of a lot of trains sty they drafted. They drafted
22:54
Speaker 8: guys with measurables and a lot of traits that in
22:58
Speaker 8: in uh, you know, everybody's estimation could lend itself to
23:03
Speaker 8: success in the in the National Football League. And I
23:06
Speaker 8: think I trust the fact that they feel like they
23:09
Speaker 8: can control and handle any issues that he may have
23:14
Speaker 8: and he'll be a big contributor for him on the
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Speaker 8: football field.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's quickly look ahead to Day three. The
23:20
Speaker 2: Bengals have six picks left. They've got a fourth, a
23:24
Speaker 2: fifth to sixth round picks, and two seventh round picks.
23:28
Speaker 2: I think a couple of those picks will probably be
23:31
Speaker 2: used on cornerbacks. Yep, that's cornerbacks, not quarterbacks. I wouldn't
23:36
Speaker 2: be surprised if a pick is used on a punter
23:38
Speaker 2: to complete with compete with Brad Robbins. Maybe somebody who
23:43
Speaker 2: had experience as a kick returner in college. Since you've
23:45
Speaker 2: got the new kick return rules in the NFL, I'm
23:48
Speaker 2: sure they're thinking about somebody that can do that. Any
23:51
Speaker 2: other thoughts for you on position groups they'll be attacking
23:55
Speaker 2: on Day three?
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Speaker 8: You know, I agree with you, Dan, I mean, you
23:58
Speaker 8: have to address the corners, and in the fourth, fifth, sixth,
24:03
Speaker 8: and seventh round you're looking at twenty six draftable players,
24:07
Speaker 8: you know. I mean there are forty one draftable corners overall,
24:11
Speaker 8: and over half of them are going to be in
24:14
Speaker 8: Day three of the draft. So that's why, you know,
24:17
Speaker 8: it's like there was a run on corners. You know,
24:21
Speaker 8: let's let's double down at the at the interior defensive
24:25
Speaker 8: tackle position. That's an area that we need to address.
24:29
Speaker 8: So I have no problem with them doing that, and
24:31
Speaker 8: I do think they will attack that cornerback position. And
24:36
Speaker 8: then after that, it's like, okay, well we do we
24:39
Speaker 8: double down at the offensive tackle position? Do we address
24:42
Speaker 8: the interior the offensive line? When you're talking a round six,
24:47
Speaker 8: four through through six, you're looking at nineteen, nineteen and twenty,
24:53
Speaker 8: you know, candidates in those rounds.
24:54
Speaker 1: So it's a deep draft.
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Speaker 8: I mean, there's not you know, in my mind there
25:00
Speaker 8: it's been talking to people around the league. There's not
25:03
Speaker 8: a big difference in pick seventy to pick one hundred
25:07
Speaker 8: and fifty with a lot of people. I mean, there
25:09
Speaker 8: are a lot of teams around the league have similar grades.
25:11
Speaker 8: It's not like there's a huge disparity of a major
25:14
Speaker 8: drop off you know.
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Speaker 1: From from an eighty pick.
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Speaker 8: Scenario in this in this draft, so you know that
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Speaker 8: that goes well. I do think some of the position
25:24
Speaker 8: groups that the Bengals will address and double down on
25:27
Speaker 8: there there's death in those rounds and and uh, you know,
25:30
Speaker 8: tej Christian zad is a great example. He's a seventh
25:34
Speaker 8: round pick. Look at how his career turned out.
25:37
Speaker 2: Excellent call on interior offensive lineman. I think there will
25:40
Speaker 2: definitely be at least one of those guys selected as well.
25:44
Speaker 2: It's after midnight. You've been talking for a long time tonight.
25:47
Speaker 2: I appreciate you spending a few minutes with us, and
25:50
Speaker 2: I will see you tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Yes, sir Dan, get a good night's sleep.
25:55
Speaker 8: I know when my hit my head hits the pillow,
25:58
Speaker 8: and ain't gonna take long to.
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Speaker 2: I'll have another edition of this podcast following day three,
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26:10
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