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Former Homosexual Warns About LGBT Agenda · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off-limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Fiorazo.
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  Well, hello again friends, David Fiorazo here.
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  Thank you so much for tuning in to World View Matters.
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  We appreciate all of you who have already subscribed to our brand new show.
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  We're going to get right to it again today.
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  We've got another great guest.
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  I love the people that I get to talk to.
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  This is George Carneal.
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  He's the author of the book From Queer to Christ.
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  We're going to talk about his story and really warn parents.
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  And basically, everyday Christians on what to look out for with the deceptions, the delusions,
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  everything that's coming at you from the LGBTQ agenda, the ideology behind it.
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  We're going to talk about that as well.
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  And we're going to really talk about what he calls the agenda behind the agenda.
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  And I just want to bring him in right now.
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  George Carneal, good to see you brother.
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  Welcome.
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  Good to see you too, David.
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  Thanks for having me on.
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  So you can get your book on Amazon and of course on your website, which is George Carneal.com
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  correct?
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  Correct.
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  Okay.
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  So we've talked before, not on this program, but I love people that are not afraid to just
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  share the anguish and the battle, the spiritual battle, but also the physical, mental, emotional
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  battle you go through when you're in the LGBTQ lifestyle, which is based on lies.
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  And then finally, Christ gets a hold of you.
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  So I'm just going to let you open up here and just share your story.
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  I know you're good at condensing it by now, but people will be fascinated to hear you
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  were in that lifestyle for many, many years out in California.
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  So go ahead, George, share a little bit about your background and you got into the lifestyle
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  and then Christ got a hold of you.
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  Well, I'm the son of a Baptist minister and I wrote the book from queer to Christ, David,
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  just because I wanted, I really wanted Christians to understand what is it like for someone
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  who's battling with their faith and the same sex attraction and the pitfalls and the
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  trials that I went through trying to battle this thing in my mind and trying to figure
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  out where did this come from.
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  And I also hope that in sharing my story, that it will not only give Christians more insight,
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  but perhaps better equip them to be more confident and bold in sharing the truth of the gospel
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  in love to these individuals.
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  And in the back of the book, I take all of the talking points of the LGBT activists and
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  especially the liberal theologians who pushed the gay is okay or under grace narrative.
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  And if they would familiarize yourself with those talking points, it'll make it so much
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  easier for them to witness to these individuals and debunk the lies with actual scripture.
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  But I also wanted parents who have LGBT children to not be discouraged because if God can
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  pull me out of that lifestyle after 25 years and I've been out of it for 15, 16 years
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  now, God can do anything.
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  And then lastly, I really wanted LGBT individuals to know that they have been lied to and if
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  they can be honest with themselves and say, you know, I've spent some time in this lifestyle,
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  but I'm not finding any joy.
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  I still don't have any peace and everything that I'm doing to try to find what it is.
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  That's not feeling that void.
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  I just share with them the reality of that lifestyle.
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  And especially if they are thinking about going down that path, I especially want Christians
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  as well who affirm the lifestyle, I really detailed the reality of that lifestyle and people
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  really have no idea what it's like.
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  So I'm hoping it will wake people up and especially get the LGBT individuals to know how much
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  God really does love them.
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  He hates their sanity, hates the sin of heterosexuals, but he loves all of us and there is hope
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  and he really is their best ally.
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  Yeah, God hates adultery just like homosexuality and other sins, murdering babies in the womb
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  and other things.
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  George, you said something very interesting.
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  I want to talk a little bit more about that.
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  I believe it's so important for other Christians.
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  How we, the Body of Christ, respond, obviously we are to be loving, compassionate and truthful.
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  But I believe the most compassionate and truthful thing we can do is tell somebody the truth
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  about sin, about judgment that is coming and about anybody, regardless of the sin, we
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  have a holy God who judgment is prophesied.
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  There's so many warnings in the pages of scripture.
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  I had Laura Perry, smalls on last week.
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  She's a former transgender.
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  She lived that lifestyle for nine years.
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  She had the operations and everything.
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  Now she prays, God, she's a Christian speaker, author, she's happily married, can't have children
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  because of her surgeries, but she's just an amazing mouthpiece for the kingdom of God
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  now.
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  And as you're doing, you're trying to wake people up.
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  She said, like you'd say the same thing, why Christians are actually hurting individuals
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  by affirming them.
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  Can you share a little bit more about that?
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  Sure, we all as human beings want to think that we're decent and we want everybody to love
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  and be loved.
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  And we think that by affirming that, that we're being a good Christian and showing the love
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  of Christ and we're not wanting to harm people and then the activists will use those buzzwords.
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  If you don't support this, they're going to kill themselves and it's all a bunch of garbage.
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  But the truth is, I want them to know if they would actually look at the suicide rate
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  and the statistics in Europe where they are very liberal and support the LGBT agenda.
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  The suicide rate is just as comparable to those here in the US.
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  It has nothing to do with affirming or not affirming or Christians.
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  It has to do with the fact that you're pushing them into a lifestyle.
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  I want people to understand it is a destructive lifestyle.
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  When you tell that person, yes, I affirm you what you don't realize is they now have to
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  go into this world which most people have no idea about.
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  But to find what it is that they are looking for, just from the gay male perspective, how
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  dangerous it is when you're trying to meet strangers for sex.
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  You're trying to find love.
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  The number of people I know that have been drugged, raped, robbed and murdered in that lifestyle.
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  The transgender individuals that I know that have gone through hell and back with the
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  cross sex hormones and even with the surgeries and it has destroyed their lives.
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  The lesbian is just as promiscuous as well, not to mention the domestic violence rate amongst
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  lesbians is even higher than it is of gay men.
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  There are so many things including the sexually transmitted diseases and for the younger
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  gay men, they've not really had to suffer in a way of the older gay men have, especially
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  in the 80s when I came out, people were dropping like flies from AIDS.
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  So we had to see the devastating result of not only our people that we care about passing
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  away but watching them going through the dying process of being HIV positive and having
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  AIDS, it's the horrific thing to watch someone to go through that.
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  Now because they have drugs that allow people to live a longer time, the young gay men aren't
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  really seeing the devastating effects of it but it is going to eventually take a toll
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  on them.
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  There are so many young men who go into that lifestyle and they don't care and they're
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  by 18, 19, 20, they are already HIV positive and it's just sad that it's such a destructive
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  lifestyle.
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  So for everyone out there affirming it, not only are you pushing them into a world of
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  misery and depression and to possible addictions but also you're pushing them into further
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  rebellion against God.
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  So many important things you shared there.
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  Affirming does not do them good, it does damage and that's why George, one of the things
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  we don't hear a lot about the actually in the right context, the suicide attempt rate
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  in the LGBT community and if they do talk about it, some outlets on the left typically,
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  they'll say oh it's because Christians aren't loving, there's homophobes, there's haters
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  out there and people, that's not the reason these people, you touched out at the very
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  beginning of what you were sharing.
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  They're looking for hope, they're looking for to be loved, they're looking in all the
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  wrong places as the old song goes, right?
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  And they're ending up empty, unfulfilled with this just deluded, they are sold and I'll
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  tell you we're going to get into the marketing of evil, we're going to get into the programming
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  that is 24, 7, 365, we'll get into that in a couple minutes.
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  But speak to this problem, George Carneal, of people in the LGBTQ lifestyle, they're
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  sold on hey this, it's popular and you're cool if you're in it and corporations are behind
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  you, actors, actresses, musicians, even sports leagues now are jumping on the bandwagon.
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  Disney, we could go on and on, so there's a lot of approval in our culture but it just
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  ends up down the road of destruction, share a little bit about that.
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  Yeah, first of all, the companies don't give a slip about LGBT individuals, it's all
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  about the all might, it's about the almighty dollar.
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  Yeah, let's just make that clear.
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  I wish LGBT individuals would understand, yes, there's a lot of people just jumping on
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  the bandwagon because it's the cool and hip thing to do and some of them are just narcissistic
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  and it gives them, oh, look at me, I'm non-binary, transgender, whatever it is and it's just
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  insanity and madness.
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  But for those, the small remnant of individuals who do struggle with gender, dysphoria, they
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  really need our prayers and our concern, they don't need cross-sex hormones and cross-sex
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  surgeries, they really need Jesus and a good counselor, that's what they need first of
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  all.
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  But for the gays and lesbians who truly struggle with the same sex attraction, there's
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  most likely a root core wound from the childhood and that was the case for me.
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  Most of us, and most in that community are so broken and if people would really just
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  sit down and talk to them and ask them to explain what, share with me what your childhood
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  was like.
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  And if they can trust you and if you can gain that trust and they share with you, you're
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  going to find so much brokenness in such a wound and for me because of the disconnect
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  with my own father and because of being bullied by my male peers, I was so deficient in
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  male bonding.
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  I had a lot, a lot of female love, but when it came to male bonding, I was so deficient.
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  So that's why when I walked into a gay bar at 18 and the guys were giving me a whole different
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  type of attention that I had because it was always negative, I was so used to being bullied.
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  That's why I became so easily addicted to that lifestyle because I kept thinking all
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  of these men and sleeping with these men, somewhere in here I'm going to find peace and love
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  and they're going to take away, take me away from all this pain that I'm in and I just
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  didn't realize the only God could take away that pain.
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  I just didn't know that God cared about me because as you know, David, there are a lot
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  of mean spirit of Christians out there who give the narrative that God hates fags and
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  are going to hell.
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  Well, it steals those, it's still my hope.
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  So I never thought God was the answer because I thought, I'm a homosexual, he hates me.
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  So he was never an option for me and sadly, I had to learn a lot of difficult lessons,
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  but thankfully, God was faithful and he eventually dismantled those lies and really showed
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  me who he really is and pulled me out of that lifestyle.
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  Praise God for your story and your voice now, George Carneal, I want to remind everybody
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  the book.
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  Where is it?
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  I want to bring up the book cover again, queer from queer to Christ, don't encourage
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  people to check that out on Amazon or George Carneal.com.
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  We have to take a quick break.
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  When we come back, we're going to talk about thousands of miners who have undergone transgender
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  surgery.
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  They went under the knife to, quote, be affirmed.
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  This is dangerous.
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  We're going to talk about another demonic practice that doctors are jumping on the bandwagon
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  to try to do this.
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  It's a money maker.
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  We'll talk about that.
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  Plus, there's what's known as a gay church finder.
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  You heard that right.
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  A church or church is are now on this list, a directory of people who believe they can
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  be homosexual, gay or lesbian or transgender and go and be Christians at the same time and
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  go to church.
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  We'll be right back with more.
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  We've got George Carneal with us.
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  Keep it right here.
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  Hey, guys, I'm with George Carneal today, and we are talking about the dangers of the
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  LGBTQ lifestyle, but the promotion is off the charts.
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  I'm writing a new book.
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  I'm almost done.
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  And one of the chapters is Pride Month, question mark.
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  It's really from queer, I'm sorry, it's really queer all years, what I'm trying to get
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  to.
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  All year round, this programming goes, guys, I want you to bring up this graphic of all
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  the corporations and all the businesses with the rainbows in their logo.
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  Look at that.
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  This is just a fraction.
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  This is not a total number of these corporations or businesses that have there have on the
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  rainbow bandwagon, but look at the programming that's involved.
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  Now we'll look at what's happening in the public schools.
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  There's another photo I have of a teacher who is an ally to LGBTQ.
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  There he is.
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  And I think he's wearing some sort of tutu, is that what they're called?
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  I don't know.
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  But look at that.
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  The kids come into school first day, a couple days ago, they had their first day school.
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  My goodness, I feel welcomed because my teacher is a wacko.
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  I mean, he's supportive of whatever lifestyle I choose.
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  So George Carneal, we don't have time to talk about the Hollywood saturation, the corporate
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  saturation of the LGBTQ agenda and lifestyle.
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  We just don't have time.
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  But it influences people and kids, especially once and social media, oh my goodness.
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  And once they get into this, then I think of second Timothy three and some signs of the
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  last days where they will be lovers of pleasure, rather than lovers of God.
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  And that's what this is really creating young people, young generations of people who
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  are just seeking pleasure, but they won't find it to be satisfying.
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  Talk to that and talk about that for a minute.
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  David, I think if I were to offer the one solution, it would be this.
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  Understand that a lot of these individuals, of course, they're being programmed and groomed.
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  And a lot of them go into that and they may not even really be gay lesbian or trans.
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  But understand, during our teenage years, it's so difficult and we so we so badly want
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  to involve belong to a group.
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  And a lot of these individuals where the LGBT community gets it right is they will take
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  in all of the misfits, the muts, the outcast, the geeks, freaks, losers, you name it.
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  And they give them a sense of community.
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  And so when you feel like you belong in that, of course, you're going to just go all the
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  way in.
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  If if the church would get it right and not embrace the sin, but embrace the broken individuals
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  and say to them, in spite of what you're going through, we all are broken.
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  We all have issues, but we want you to know that you are loved and you are valued and
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  we want you to be here.
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  We want this to be a safe place for you to come in worship and worship.
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  But understand that when we speak on sin, we're going to talk about the heterosexual
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  sin as well.
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  So we're not unjustly picking on you and God loves us all and start providing a community,
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  a safe community for these individuals.
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  David, this was one of the hardest things and this is why some of my friends that I know
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  that came out of the lifestyle have gone back into it is because the church will and
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  I'm generalizing when I say this.
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  So bear with me.
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  The church will rail against the homosexuals, but they don't want to lift a finger to do
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  anything to help them.
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  And then when they do go out of that lifestyle and they go into the church, the church is
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  ill equipped to know how to deal with these individuals, I would never walked into a church
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  and said, I'm here.
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  I'm queer.
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  I wasn't looking for anything other than wanting to hear the truth of God's word.
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  And it was the conviction of the Holy Spirit by a pastor who had the guts to speak the
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  truth of God's word, which has helped me in so many others that I know of, to feel convicted
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  and to repent and to leave that lifestyle.
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  But the church is quick to hold all of these events for families.
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  But what about these single individuals, heterosexual and homosexuals who need a sense
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  of community?
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  And when they can't find it and the church doesn't want to deal with these individuals,
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  the loneliness is so overwhelming, most of them slip back into that lifestyle.
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  And I don't think it's so much to be rebellious against God.
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  We are broken and hurting and we all want to love and be loved and fit in somewhere.
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  So I want to say to the church and especially to the pastors, you set the tone for how
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  the church is going to be and to speak from the full pulpit and let people know that no
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  matter what you're struggling with, even if you are a woman who's had an abortion, we're
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  not going to mistreat anyone as long as we are repentant and we feel remorse and we ask
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  God to forgive us, that forgiveness is available to all of us.
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  Salvation is free to everyone.
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  We've missed the mark.
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  Whereas the LGBT community is like, come on in, we'll love on you no matter what.
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  So here we are.
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  Amen, brother.
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  You said so many important things there, community.
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  I mean, for all of us, no matter who you are, how old you are, what group you're in,
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  community is so important.
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  And that's what the church is about.
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  The church is not a building.
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  Ecclesia means a gathering.
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  It means a called out ones, a group.
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  And we happen to have the same worldview, the biblical worldview.
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  So yeah, and you said another thing that's very important too, the church is not always
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  equipped to deal with people who are so broken, who have come out of this lifestyle.
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  But you also said it's important, nonetheless, for whoever's in that pulpit, God willing,
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  you're a bold leader and pastor who's preaching the whole council of God and unashamed of
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  the truth when it comes to some of these, quote, controversial issues.
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  Let's go to this deception of being a gay Christian, George Carneal.
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  There's what's known as a gay church finder.
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  I just recently heard about this.
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  First of all, it's back it up a little bit.
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  There it is.
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  Find an affirming church.
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  Just what we said is dangerous.
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  They're trying to give you that to you.
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  Whatever lifestyle you want, whatever you want, bring it in.
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  We'll affirm you.
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  Wow.
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  A recipe for disaster.
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  But more than 6,000 for example, United Methodist churches have left that denomination over
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  2,000 churches disaffiliated last year due to that denomination stance on ordaining
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  gay identifying clergy.
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  So now there's a gay church finder, apparently, that provides a directory to help LGBT identifying
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  Americans locate gay affirming churches near them.
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  George, it's not concerning that there is such a thing, but that there's that many churches
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  nationwide that would fall into this category that they would be able to put a directory
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  together.
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  Your thoughts on this?
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  Yeah.
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  Two quick thoughts.
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  If I was a pastor, well, the rebel and me would call them and say, yes, I'm an affirming
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  church just to get on the list and get the LGBT individuals into my church so I could
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  give them the truth.
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  But I want to say to the LGBT individuals, I was someone who wanted God to affirm it and
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  I diligently and prayed and begged and hoped that God would tell me it's okay to be a
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  gay Christian and you can be in a committed monogamous relationship.
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  And my sincere prayer to God was, if it is okay, give me peace about this and I trust you
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  will put a good Christian man in my life because my faith is important.
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  But I also said to God, if this is wrong under all circumstances, if you will help me to
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  know it and settle it within me, I will still follow you.
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  And God answered that prayer and I want to say to those LGBT individuals, if God was
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  okay with it, why is he pulling so many of us out of that life?
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  Why would you risk your soul and where you spend eternity over having your ears tickled
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  and doing something that God's word is clear is an abomination and they can twist it
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  with all of their stories.
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  And again, I go through that, I address all of that in my book, I would encourage you
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  to at least listen to another narrative because the mainstream media and Hollywood is silencing
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  voices like mine and so many others, but really find out the truth for yourself because
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  this is your soul and hell is not worth it and eternity apart from Christ is not worth
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  it.
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  I beg you LGBT individuals to please stop for a moment and listen to the other side and
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  go to God and then ask him for discernment and wisdom.
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  He will answer you just like he answered me, please stay out of these LGBT churches they
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  are lying to you.
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  Yes.
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  Preach it, brother, because they're not going to hear it in very many places.
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  Who's going to talk about this and really warn them that first of all that there is a
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  God, that there is an eternity, that judgment is coming, that they have a decision that
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  they can make.
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  It's a decision for whosoever will believe the gospel, believe Jesus, either going to
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  hear from Hollywood, no government schools, no media, no government, no corporations, no
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  where are they going to hear it.
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  So thank you for your voice on this.
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  Just want to say one of the quotes from the article, a genuine Christian will not make
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  peace with sin.
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  So we've got to move on.
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  We just were down to about five minutes left.
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  We were talking about programming earlier.
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  One of the things unfortunately people in the LGBTQ and by the way, George, the tea has
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  been in there all along.
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  It's just being rolled out now.
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  It's been being rolled out for the last several decades, but now full force.
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  We've got the American Medical Association.
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  This suggesting that taxpayers help fund uterus transplants for biological men, transgender
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  women.
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  In other words, men who want to try to have a baby, we're getting into this into a play
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  first of all, it's demonic, but they all it is 300,000 dollars, I believe, for one
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  of these surgeries.
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  They're now look, they're doing more research.
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  But when you've got the AMA now, the medical establishment, not everybody in that community
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  is for this, but you've got to divide now.
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  You've got people who supposedly studied the human body and they know their science and
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  biology, but they're saying, okay, let's help men.
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  If they really believe that it's affirmed them, let's help them try to have a baby and
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  I've written an article about that.
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  What they do is they do castration, nullification, and then they try to give them, in this case,
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  they'll try to do a surgical implant of a uterus in a male, and I'll tell you guys, let's
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  make Frankenstein fiction again, because they are just doing this.
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  It's radical, yeah, thank you for putting this up.
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  This is actually how they say a wound transplant for a trans woman, which is a man, would actually
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  work.
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  So you can go to my article.
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  I had to just mention that again, it's at Harbinger's Daily.
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  It's also on my website, DavidFierrazo.com.
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  George, I sent this to you.
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  It is one of the most disturbing things I've researched.
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  Not the fact that they would take maybe a woman who, there are extremely rare cases where
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  a woman is born without a womb.
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  There's now a case where a woman was, they did a uterus transplant after a year and a
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  half of surgeries and follow-ups in May of this year at the University of Alabama.
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  She had a baby, and it was because of this transplant.
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  Well now, of course, let's make money off of this, this is the demonic push, let's make
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  money off of this.
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  George, your thoughts on how far they will go and how we're being really deceived.
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  So many people that are going along with this, it's hard to imagine, but here we are talking
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  about these things we never really saw coming.
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  That's a lot to unpack.
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  I'm going to try to make this quickly, since David, for the stress, Christians and people
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  I want to warn you, the T is not only bad enough, but the P, the pedophilia is coming.
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  That's a whole another topic in and of itself.
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  The only thing I can tell you is this, with everything that they are trying to legalize,
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  all of this perversion, what Christians and people in general who are against this better
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  wake up and realize, once they legalize it and put it under the LGBTQ plus umbrella,
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  the day is coming to where if you dare to object, even when pedophilia, it will be legalized
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  at some point.
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  And if you dare to complain about men and women having sex with your children and grandchildren
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  and you dare to speak out against it, you risk being arrested for a hate crime and being
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  put in prison or having your life destroyed.
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  The end goal is to silence all opposition to this perversion.
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  Everything that God's word condemns is being legalized and appraised and supported and
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  everything that God's word deems holy and right and just is being criminalized.
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  And if people don't see this, I don't know what to say.
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  And David, I get so irritated because when I post this stuff even on Facebook, nobody
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  shares it because God forbid we offend anyone.
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  Oh, we can offend God, but let's don't offend people.
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  The only way we can wake people up is when you share shows like this and get the word out
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  there.
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  What's more important, offending them or them dying and going to hell, offending them
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  or them possibly finding freedom from the bondage that they are in?
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  This is a no brainer, but I don't get it.
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  And these pastors who stand in the pulpit and don't even have the guts to speak the
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  truth of God's word when people are dying and going to hell.
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  It's maddening.
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  We better wake up.
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  Yeah.
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  Thank you for that warning.
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  We're going to have you on again.
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  Lord willing, obviously you alluded to Isaiah 520 where we are now in a culture that's
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  calling evil good and good evil.
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  I do want to mention that article one of them I didn't get to, but I shared the headline.
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  It's over the daily signal thousands of minors went under the knife to affirm a transgender
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  identity.
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  This is a study.
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  The stats are all there.
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  I mean, I mean, it's got a page of stats and numbers and you can see the type of people.
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  And even minors is what we're finding out now, it's not just adults, it's minors.
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  So if you're for protecting children like George and I are and I know most of you in
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  the audience, we want to protect our kids, but it starts at the public schools because
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  they're going after kids at younger and younger ages.
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  George, I wish we had more time, but it's just a good enough reason to have you on again
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  in the near future and pick it up.
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  His book is called From Queer to Christ, the subtitle, My Journey into the Light.
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  So George Carneal, brother, God bless you.
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  Stay strong.
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  I pray for your protection and Jesus name that you would continue to have influence in
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  God would expand your territory because we need voices like yours, brother.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  Thank you, David, for having the guts and the courage to have me on.
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  I appreciate it.
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  Praise God, brother.
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  Okay, I would just want to mention next week, man, the week goes by fast and he's programs
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  go by fast.
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  Next week, we've got Chad Davidson from Good Fight Ministries, Julian Appling, Wisconsin
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  Family Council, Dan Fisher, Liberty Pastor, brother, and bringing back the black robe
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  regiment and Dr. Duke Pesta, we're going to be talking about the dangers of DEI, diversity,
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  equity, and inclusion.
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  Keep an out for this.
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  Thanks, guys, again, for sharing the show.
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  God bless you, and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.