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Why Not Today? Season 1 - Episode 19 with Emma G · Why Not Today? with Leslie Kane

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  Hello, this is Leslie Kane and I am the host of the Why Not Today podcast.
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  This is a podcast to celebrate people who have been courageous and said, why not today?
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  I started this podcast to honor my father Patrick Kane who often said, why not today?
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  I am based in Western Virginia, a Planned community right outside of Washington, DC.
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  Thanks for joining us today.
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  And I'm super excited.
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  My guest is Ms. Emma Gee.
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  She's a musician, an amazing person and we met through mutual friends and booking music
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  and I'm excited to hear her story.
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  But before we hear from her, I always like to talk about connections and how you meet
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  people.
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  So I think she, I booked music for a local restaurant, bar in Reston and somebody said,
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  oh, you got to have Emma Gee play.
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  And then of course she started playing eclipsos and then other people knew her.
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  And actually recently somebody said to me, they overheard you playing, she was on the
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  plaza and she's like, how did you find that person?
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  She's amazing.
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  And I'm like, well, it's word of mouth.
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  So you never know who you're going to know that's going to refer somebody.
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  So I'm super excited to hear from you today and hear your story.
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  And I love hearing your voice because you've got an amazing accent.
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  So dare a little about you before we start talking about courage and a fun fact about
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  you that people wouldn't know.
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  Oh goodness.
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  Okay.
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  So great to see you, Leslie.
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  Thank you for having me on this podcast.
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  And yeah, so who am I?
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  I depends on where who's asking me really.
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  If I was in New Zealand where I'm from, I would first start off by telling you that
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  Kareoia is my mountain.
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  The Pacific Ocean is my ocean.
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  The Waikato River is my river.
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  And my parents go back to Norway, Iran, United States, Fiji.
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  And I was born in New Zealand.
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  Who I am today, however, so I'm a singer songwriter.
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  Yes, have been a professional musician for over 20 years now is wild to think of because
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  I'm only 34.
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  But here we are.
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  And but in addition to that, you know, the last couple of years, I have not pivoted.
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  I don't I think pivot was the buzzword for most people.
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  For me, my I've expanded and more I've stepped into who I actually authentically am, which
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  is not just a musician.
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  I'm also a youth empowerment through songwriting coach, a speaker, an author, and a girlfriend.
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  And that's really kind of, you know, for me, it's really important that we look at the
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  whole person, not just, you know, not just the labels.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  So tell me a fun fact about you.
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  Oh, the fun fact.
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  Well, I don't really have to.
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  I mean, a big fun fact that used to be about me was that I've had 10 brain surgeries, which
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  people was kind of bug out about.
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  I didn't know that.
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  OK, that's a fun fact.
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  But for for other people who know about that, who have seen my TED talk recently, a fun
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  fact about me is that I don't like blue cheese.
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  OK, is that a fun fact?
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  That's a fun fact.
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  I think I didn't like blue cheese for a long time until I got older.
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  So I'm a lot I'm older than you, so maybe it's coming.
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  Because when I was pretty poor, I didn't like it.
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  OK, OK, with not liking blue cheese.
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  That's OK.
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  So and yeah, I mean, I love that not only did you meet and I booked you, but there's
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  a lot of people I book.
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  I don't even know who they are, but I love that we became friends and connect.
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  And I love everything you represent and your positive energy and your spirit.
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  And there's just so many things I love about you.
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  So I couldn't wait to talk to you.
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  So tell me, what do you how would you define courage?
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  What does it mean to you?
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  Courage is the ability to look at adversity and recognize that.
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  There is more.
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  Positives on the other side.
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  OK, so giving yourself permission to take a deep breath.
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  And leap.
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  I like that.
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  All right, take a deep breath and leap.
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  So eventually, I'm going to take all these courage, everybody's definitions and make
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  courage.
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  I like that.
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  I like that a lot.
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  All right.
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  So from brain surgeries, I didn't know that to you move to the US, which I think takes
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  a lot of courage.
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  This girl that grew up in the same town my entire life pretty much.
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  And although I've traveled, not very much.
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  I mean, in the United States, not out.
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  So that whole thing.
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  Right.
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  Well, to be fair, to travel within the United States is also a wild adventure.
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  I've been lucky to travel to 27 different states on tour most of the time.
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  And there's a huge difference between Iowa and Los Angeles and a huge difference between
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  Los Angeles and Austin and a huge difference between Austin and New York.
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  And some people would say it takes courage just to live or drive into DC.
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  I have friends that are from rural areas that won't even come to Northern Virginia because
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  they're afraid to drive.
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  I'm not going to lie.
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  Driving in Los Angeles is a lot scarier than driving in DC.
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  All right.
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  So tell me what are things in your life that's taking courage?
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  And when have you said why not today?
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  And how can you encourage people?
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  Like tell me all your why not today?
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  I think it was, gosh, what's her name?
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  There was who's the woman?
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  There is a very famous woman whose name I can't remember right now, which is terrible.
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  Think of it in the middle of the night.
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  Sorry.
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  Think of it in the middle of the night.
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  I totally will.
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  Two o'clock in the morning.
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  I'll text you.
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  So but there was a saying that basically the challenge of do something that scares you
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  every day.
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  Eleanor Roosevelt.
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  It was Eleanor Roosevelt?
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  I think it is.
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  Okay.
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  So that to me has kind of been my one of my philosophies since I was a child, because,
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  you know, I had my first brain surgery when I was four months old.
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  By the time I was 10, 12, I'd had 24 surgeries, 10 brain surgeries, 24 in, you know, all together.
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  And as a result, it was kind of like, you know, people attributed courage to me every
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  day because they're like, oh, how do you survive?
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  And how do you survive having brain surgery?
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  You deal with it, right?
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  That's your reality.
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  That's what you do.
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  Right.
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  It's like that's like saying, how do you deal with washing your hands every time you go
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  to the bathroom?
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  You just kind of do it.
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  You know what I mean?
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  For me, you know, courage has always been like something that I kind of was a little
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  bit perplexed about because for me, it was just existing, merely existing.
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  And I think a lot of people who, you know, experience trauma or who experience adversity,
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  just existing is a kind of courage.
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  There's a saying, again, of in a world filled with, you know, the intent on making specifically
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  women and girls feel like they need to purchase this, that and the other thing in order to
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  feel pretty, loving yourself is the sincerest act of rebellion.
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  You know, I think every day we are presented with opportunities to be courageous.
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  For me, I kind of know, so if I'm waking up every day, choosing to scare myself a little
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  bit, if your comfort zone is here, this is where the awesome stuff happens.
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  I at the age of, I don't know, 22 decided, you know what, I'm going to really actively
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  try to scare myself.
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  How can I do that?
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  Wow.
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  I love that.
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  And sometimes I would fail and sometimes I wouldn't.
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  You know, I tried bodybuilding for a while because that was totally out of my comfort
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  zone.
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  And the only reason I didn't actually go through the competition was because I was talked out
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  of it by a boyfriend I should not have been dating.
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  But nonetheless, you know, I tried CrossFit, I did the CrossFit games, I got into doing,
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  I was the ambassador for Tough Mudder, you know, all these things that were outside of
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  my comfort zone.
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  I, you know, took a leap and decided to become a youth empowerment worker at the YMCA.
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  You know, all these things, I studied to be a mechanic for three and a half years.
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  Things that were just like, kind of, okay, that's interesting.
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  Why would you do that?
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  Because it kind of scared me and let's embrace that a little bit.
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  I think the most notable growth opportunities for me though, have come directly as a result
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  of stepping out of that comfort zone.
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  So by your very example, I packed my bag, you know, back in 2015 and sold all of my
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  belongings in New Zealand and boarded a plane, spent two weeks in Vietnam by myself, not
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  speaking the language, read Eat, Love, Pray, whatever it's called.
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  And I've laughed because I was like, oh, we all know that.
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  And then moved to the States, not knowing, not being quite prepared for the culture shock,
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  which was surprising to me.
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  So what are the things that are culture shock?
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  Oh my Lord.
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  So my first ever job in America was working as an outdoor hiking instructor at a girls
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  camp.
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  Where did you move by the way?
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  Did you come here?
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  No, I went straight to Massachusetts.
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  Okay.
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  So I was working as an outdoor hiking instructor at a girls camp.
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  And the biggest culture shock there was how pippy everybody was.
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  And I'm incredibly pippy.
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  Like I'm a very positive person.
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  Yo, I was like the Scrooge compared to the camp.
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  So that was a thing.
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  The food here, definitely.
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  I wasn't prepared for the obsession with physique as much.
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  Everybody in America has this obsession with wearing shoes all the time.
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  In New Zealand, bare feet are fine.
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  In Fiji, bare feet are fine.
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  I hate you.
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  Sorry.
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  You hate me.
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  I hate you.
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  But I think on a cultural level and semi-political level, I think I was not prepared for the
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  cultural diversity of the states.
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  New Zealand is a very multicultural country, but very rooted in Southeast Asia and the
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  Pacifica.
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  Whereas here, you have everything under the sun.
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  Right?
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  And I wasn't in my head prepared for that, nor was I prepared for being typecasted as
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  Ethiopian, Spanish, and Black, depending on the day, depending on who the person was.
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  And then all of the cultural perspectives that come with being interpreted as Latino,
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  Ethiopian, or Black.
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  So it's just-
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  Not a white man.
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  Well, yeah.
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  And then my accent totally shifts that energy as well.
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  So that I definitely wasn't prepared for.
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  I wasn't prepared for the depth of misunderstanding when it comes to multiculturalism.
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  I think America is very intent on tick one box, move on.
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  Whereas I'm like, I will tick seven.
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  I love that.
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  So how did you immerse yourself or get acclimated?
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  Did you say it'd be too long or did you come to DC quickly?
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  So I was working as a hiking instructor in Massachusetts, and then I got a second contract
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  in Connecticut as an outdoor science education teacher.
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  Between those two jobs, I had 11 days off, road tripped with a girlfriend to Indiana,
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  broke down in New York State, ended up in Rockville, Maryland, had my guitar with me,
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  so decided to go busking and see what happens.
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  And for anybody who's listening to your podcast who doesn't know what busking is, that's street
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  performance.
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  So I would wake up, go sing for people on their way to work, and then see how much money
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  I made.
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  And it got to the point where I was like, actually, I can make a living doing this.
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  And there's an energy about DC that I really fell in love with.
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  So I made the decision to move here November 2015.
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  And as you could say, that was another act of courage.
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  But keeping in mind that this is the nation's capital, and I come from a country that has
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  seven sheep per person and four cows per person.
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  To go from that to then living in arguably the most powerful city in the world was nerve
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  racking.
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  But I don't know, the universe, the source, God, whatever you want to call it, was just
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  telling me this is why I needed to be.
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  So were you always a musician?
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Were you a musician for years before or just got better?
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  I was actually the lead singer for a hard rock band back in New Zealand called Static
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  Era.
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  And we were together for five and a half years.
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  I was also doing a gigging solo as well, touring with the band, touring solo.
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  And yeah, that was back in New Zealand.
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  But it's hard to make a living in New Zealand where you have seven sheep per person.
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  So I always had other jobs here and there.
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  To then move here and make a full time income from street performance was wild to me.
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  Yeah, which is interesting.
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  Somebody I think it was Crush Funk Rass Band.
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  Crush Funk is amazing.
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  Yeah, and I love them.
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  And they said one time, and somebody recognized them from playing on the street.
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  Yeah.
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  But they said one time that they loved you and you were both respectful of the corners
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  that you played, which is, I mean, that's such a cool thing.
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  Well, that was one of the things that I really wanted to bring from New Zealand to DC with
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  me, because I think from my conversations I've had with people, there is this very combative,
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  abrasive approach people in the music industry tend to have towards one another.
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  And I'm like, dude, we're all here, we all love what we do, we're all doing this for
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  a purpose beyond money.
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  Like for me, my very reason for doing this in DC in the beginning was if I'm going to
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  live in the world's most powerful city, I want to make sure that the people who go to
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  work and make decisions that impact the country and the world aren't grumpy.
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  So I want to make them smile.
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  I think of people, and this is my naive opinion, like that people are living on playing on
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  the street or almost living on the street.
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  And that's how they're surviving is by that not never would have thought you're doing
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  it to entertain the grumpy people.
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  You know, I just like I wouldn't even care if people gave me a dollar as long as they
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  were smiling.
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  That's all that matters.
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  In fact, one specific time I was singing at Metro Center, and this is when it kind of
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  like all fell into place for me.
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  And I apologize if this triggers anybody who listens to this podcast.
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  But I was singing a song that I have written.
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  And suddenly all these police and ambulances turned up and parked across the street.
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  And I was like, what is going on?
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  Like, I'm just there singing and people are coming up the escalator and whatever.
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  And came to find out that somebody across the street had been struggling so much so
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  that they jumped off of the roof of the building and into their life.
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  And I was like, I don't know if I can carry on singing.
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  That feels really rude.
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  And as soon as I said that out loud to another person who was selling newspapers beside me,
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  a stranger came up to me and said, no, Emma, we need you.
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  Exactly.
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  The reason, you know, I'm so sorry that that person did not feel like they could find a
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  glimmer of hope, but you have no idea.
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  This is what he said.
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  You have no idea how much what you do helps.
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  And that was a punch in my feelings if ever I had one.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Do you know the story of the starfish?
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  The starfish?
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  I usually wear a starfish necklace.
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  I don't have it on today.
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  And I share this story often.
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  The story of starfish is a man was walking down the beach picking up those thousands,
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  millions of starfish on the beach and he's picking them up and throw them in the ocean.
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  And somebody walks by and he's like, what the heck are you doing?
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  You will never make a difference.
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  And he picked up a starfish and threw it in the water.
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  He said, I made a difference in that one.
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  And so I live by that motto.
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  Like, you never know what you do and people are watching that you can make a positive
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  influence on one person.
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  By you being courageous, by you keep playing, that you made a difference in somebody else's
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  life.
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  And you just never know who that one person where it could be today and you hear 20 years
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  from now, like that the next ready to jump.
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  But you encouraged them.
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  And so I really live by that.
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  This tattoo here is of a songbird made out of musical notes.
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  Back to tribute to a woman who, so I think it was 2017, I went back to Iowa where my
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  Norwegian family live and for Christmas.
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  So I was not in DC for about two weeks.
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  Came back.
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  Somebody had taken my regular Wednesday or Tuesday spot or wherever it was.
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  And so I went to a random other place to find, you know, to set up and sing.
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  And this woman came rushing up to me and stuffed an envelope into my hand and said, thank goodness
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  you're here.
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  I have been looking for you everywhere.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  Okay.
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  Random.
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  I wasn't thinking just open the envelope without thinking, oh, this could be a bad idea.
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  But nonetheless, it was fine.
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  There was a Starbucks gift card in there.
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  And then there was, she'd written this fully, like full computer typed page address to songbird.
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  And I have no idea who this woman is, like anything about her.
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  But in this letter, she stated that she was a full time working mom, had two children,
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  worked two jobs to make ends meet, slept on average between three to five hours a night,
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  had every second weekend off, was feeling super overwhelmed, super stressed, never quite
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  knew how to make ends meet, never quite knew, you know, what the next day would bring or
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  whatever.
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  And she said that she had two lights in her life.
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  One was her faith in God, Lord, Jesus, whatever.
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  And the second was my performances on Wednesday mornings.
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  Two lights.
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  And I was like, how is that even a thing?
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  You never know.
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  People notice and we're so worried about thinking what if they think bad of us?
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  Who cares?
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  Like if that one person...
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  They need more hugs.
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  What?
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  They need more hugs.
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  Yeah.
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  If one person can make a difference and just smile and people, I mean, in general, this
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  is a hard world and this area is hard and we're all busy and COVID was kind of a wake
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  up call, but we're back to the busyness and we're back to crazy life and people are still
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  suffering.
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  And one thing I want to be able to do with this podcast is give people hope, give people
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  the courage to say, it's just a young girl listening or somebody that wants to play,
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  be a musician, to think of it not as, okay, a way to make money, but to be a light in
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  somebody's life.
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  Like I'd never thought of it that way.
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  That you enjoy it.
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  You know, when I'm booking music, it's not the people, a lot of people that I booked
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  are not making huge bucks doing it.
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  And you can tell there's a passion.
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  I don't have that music ability, but I can give it other ways.
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  I can be passionate about other things.
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  Well, it's about leading with your why.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, whether it's music or something else, it's about leading with your why and
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  that goes back to your courage thing.
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  Yeah.
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  And having the courage to do it.
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  If your why outshines your fear, that's courage.
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  Yep.
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  I love that.
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  If your why outshines your fear.
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  And you know, for me, I quit my job 22 years ago, started 28 years ago.
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  And you know, it was scary, but it was like, I knew that it was for me.
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  And I knew a lot of people that are stuck in things and miserable in life because they
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  don't have the courage.
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  And so I'm hoping to get people courage to follow their dreams, follow their why, follow
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  their passion.
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  You just never know, one, where it can take you and two, whose life you can influence.
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  Exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  So fast forward, you're performing more professionally now or doing a lot more.
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  I have a lot of youth stuff.
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  I mean, you're doing so many things.
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  Thank you.
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  It's like I've expanded, yes, but I'm I'm actually coming back to the real me, the authentic
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  me.
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  And I say that because when I was five years old, my mom asked me what I wanted to be when
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  I grew up.
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  I wanted to be a rock star, a mum, a counselor, a teacher and a fashion designer.
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  OK, right.
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  Got most of those down.
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  Right.
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  So what I'm doing now is yes, I'm still playing music and still recording and still writing.
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  And I'm in the middle of creating this new project, Soundtrack in Progress, which is
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  two albums and a stage production meets rock opera meets TEDx talk.
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  But more importantly, I'm really marrying my music and my coaching together to or teaching
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  together to be a youth empowerment through sound writing coach and to deliver keynote
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  presentations that combine music and keynote speaking to just remind people of their empowerment,
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  remind them of their resilience, remind them of their courage, remind them of their magic
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  and their power.
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  You know, as Marianne Williamson says, our greatest fear is not that we're inadequate.
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  Our greatest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
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  Sometimes we just need a theme song that reminds us of their greatness.
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  Right.
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  I need a theme song.
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  Can you write me a theme song?
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  I need a song for Why Not Today.
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  My goal is for yourself and I'm here to help you write it.
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  OK.
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  Right.
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  And then because because it would be inauthentic for me to write it for you.
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  It needs to come from you.
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  And especially when it comes to young people, especially young people who are, you know,
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  still recovering from it.
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  Of course, we're all recovering from that.
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  Teenagers are taking, you know, it's a lot more complicated than so much anxiety with
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  teenagers, especially after being homeschooled for two years and the poor kids in college.
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  And I talk to parents and their kids are like having all these anxiety and stress.
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  Like, I mean, what's one of my friends?
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  Yeah.
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  Son is 21 and afraid his hair is going to fall out.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  Who thinks that?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's crazy.
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  So, so, you know, helping them to recognize that, you know, they've made it.
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  They've survived 100 percent of their bad days so far.
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  But they have the answers in them.
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  We just need to let them give them permission to step into their power, step into their
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  theme song and write their truth unapologetically.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, I love that.
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  And I, you know, I've geared this more to an older age group because I am, but I'm thinking,
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  yeah, we need to give that young, the younger generation the courage to do the job they
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  want to go to college or not go to college to do what they want to do.
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  And it's their life.
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  I mean, every parent, every older person, every generation, I believe, wants to make
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  sure that the next generation is better.
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  Right.
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  Not better.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  And so that's what I'm here to help with.
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  Yeah.
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  And one of the things I'm passionate with my Mary Kay is teaching young girls how to
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  take care of their skin.
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  And they say a woman's self-esteem is highest at age 10.
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  Really?
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  Yeah.
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  Is that scary?
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  Yeah.
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  So we can give them courage to do the things to feel better, to be more confident.
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  And then, you know, you got the whole social media world bombarding people.
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  Wild.
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  Yeah.
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  Social media.
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  Such a fun thing.
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  We've talked about that for a while.
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  All right.
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  So encouragement for somebody to say why not today?
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  What would you encourage somebody?
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  How would you encourage somebody?
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  Why not today?
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  You have no idea.
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  A. You have no idea how powerful you are.
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  B. You have no idea what could happen tomorrow.
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  We know that.
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  C. You have no idea the impact that your actions has on other people, events, and the world.
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  So why not today?
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  Because, I mean, it sounds cliched, but tomorrow is not a given.
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  And I'm a huge believer that when you hear that whisper in your ear, in your soul, in
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  your gut, that is the universe's way of telling you, get out of your own way.
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  Listen to that voice.
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  I always tell people, listen to the first voice, not the second.
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  Not social media voices, not your friends' voices, not your parents' voices.
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  You have all of the answers in you.
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  You just need to be brave enough to let yourself listen.
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  And I'm actually, simultaneously reading, listening to two books, one's about long thinking
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  and the other's about busyness.
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  And this is, we don't carve out time in our life to think anymore.
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  Or just be.
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  Or be, yeah.
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  We're just running so fast in this world.
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  So much wisdom.
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  I'm going to have to pull lots of these nuggets and quotes out of here and share them.
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  So I always try to connect this back to my dad.
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  And when I share that question with people, it's like, I didn't know your dad.
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  And so I always listen to the interview and connect back.
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  And so as I listen to you and thinking you're into community and giving back and a light,
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  but the thing I think that finally hit me the last point is that you care about empowering
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  people, the younger people, and giving people a voice.
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  And I think my dad was a master of that.
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  He was always peace.
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  I had friends come over to go out and do whatever.
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  And he'd see somebody coming to the house and he's like, oh, Emma, could you rake these
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  leaves and do all, and they did.
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  I'm like, you guys are crazy.
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  Like I don't want to do it.
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  But he asked people questions and he got to know people.
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  I have friends that said when my dad passed away that they had more deep conversations
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  or talked to my father more than they ever did their own father, which is really sad.
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  But he was hard on kids.
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  And especially we were the family that just invited anybody wherever they were.
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  And there were people that some young kids have gone through some hard stuff, but he
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  didn't let them off the hook.
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  And he made them think and he asked questions.
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  Yeah.
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  I imagine you are very good at that with your teaching.
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  One of the things I heard a saying years ago in Barcelona, of all places, you are loved,
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  you are loved, and all the answers you have are within you.
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  Sometimes we just need a little bit of guidance to help us recognize what those answers are.
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  Yeah.
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  So I knew when I met you and fell in love with you that you'd be my friend.
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  And I'm even more convinced that what you shared, we definitely have similar spirits
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  in life and we could talk forever and we definitely need to connect more.
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  I'm miss seeing you.
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  And so if somebody wants to find you, I'm going to get your info to share in the show
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  notes, but where's the best place to find Emma G?
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  If you Google Emma G, my face will show up.
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  But if you want more specifics, action points, yeah, Emma G Music on all social media, except
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  for TikTok, I'm Emma G Speaks.
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  And then if you want to go to EmmaGMusic.com, that would be my website.
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  Okay, yay.
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  Well thank you so much.
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  I'm so glad we can have this conversation and follow her, see what she's up to.
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  She's got a lot of great things going on.
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  And we do release a new podcast every other Saturday.
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  This is like 18th or 19th episode.
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  We are, I keep saying we're working on a website, we're getting closer.
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  I do have Why Not Today cups, Why Not Today t-shirts, vinyls.
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  We are spreading the word to give people courage to say why not today.
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  So thanks again, Emma G and the rest of you.
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  Thanks for listening and why not today?
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  Bye.
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  See ya.
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  Bye.