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Sharri | 29 July · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Shari.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: I'm Daniki di Giorgio, filling in this week for Shari.
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Speaker 2: Coming up on the show tonight.
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Speaker 3: In what kind of universe are broadcasters believing her Mussa's
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Speaker 3: word over Israel's the one we are living in apparently,
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Speaker 3: will show you the propaganda being peddled by Australian media
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Speaker 3: over the Gaza conflict. The case of giggle versus Tickle
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Speaker 3: gets even more bizarre as a gay rights group takes
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Speaker 3: on another gay rights group, all in the name of equality.
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Speaker 2: Apparently.
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Speaker 3: The woman standing up for common sense and women's rights Salgrover,
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Speaker 3: will join me. New South Wales police reject a bid
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Speaker 3: by pro Palestine activists to shut down the Harbor Bridge.
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Speaker 3: Dave Sharma will fire up on this shortly, and what's
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Speaker 3: this economic miracle everyone is talking about in Argentina under
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Speaker 3: President Javim Malay. Dmitri Birchstein will join me, but first tonight.
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Speaker 3: As Israel fights for its survival on every front, Harmuss's
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Speaker 3: proper Gander is influencing the media narrative across the world,
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Speaker 3: and for the Arbenzia labor are seeking to demonize Israel,
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Speaker 3: and much of the media appear to agree with the narrative.
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Speaker 2: That Israel is the enemy.
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Speaker 3: Opposition leader Susan Lee was hounded with questions today about
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Speaker 3: allegations Israel is starving civilians.
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Speaker 4: Do you believe there.
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Speaker 5: Is starvation in Gaza? I've been incredibly distressed by the
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Speaker 5: images that I've seen.
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Speaker 2: Can I just move on?
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Speaker 5: I've said, I'm very I'm very distressed by the images
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Speaker 5: that I've seen. It's a complex situation on the ground.
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Speaker 5: Like everyone, I'm very distressed by the images I've seen.
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Speaker 6: Said this morning that it was beyond comprehension for Israel
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Speaker 6: to assert that there was no starvation in Gaza.
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Speaker 4: Your reaction to that comment, Well, I've just answered that.
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Speaker 5: But of course, of course, of course we're distressed by
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Speaker 5: the images we see there.
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Speaker 3: What did the media think she was going to say,
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Speaker 3: or more to the point, what do they want her
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Speaker 3: to say? That Israel is the problem? I mean, never
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Speaker 3: mind the Jihads who killed twelve hundred people, raped and
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Speaker 3: tortured women, and took two hundred and fifty Jews hostage. Yes,
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Speaker 3: the situation in the Middle East is horrific, but to
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Speaker 3: pedal a narrative that Israel is starving people is just
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Speaker 3: plain wrong and plays into the lies being pedled by Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Have any of these.
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Speaker 3: Journalists thought to ask why Israel, which is supplying AID,
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Speaker 3: would want to starve and kill those it's trying to help,
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Speaker 3: or how Hamas has taken control of food trucks and.
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Speaker 2: What the terror group is actually doing.
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Speaker 3: What they're objected is because right now it's taking the
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Speaker 3: AID to fund its own terror activities, turning the lives
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Speaker 3: of innocent people into a profit making machine.
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Speaker 2: Have any of the.
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Speaker 3: Journalists sought to ask why Hamas has rejected yet another
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Speaker 3: cease fire proposal put forward.
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Speaker 2: By the United States and Israel. No, of course not.
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Speaker 2: They just continued to push Susan Lee.
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Speaker 4: See.
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Speaker 7: You say you've been distressed by the images you've been
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Speaker 7: seeing out of Laza.
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Speaker 4: Do you acknowledge that Israel has played a role in allowing.
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Speaker 3: The situation to get to where it is that we're
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Speaker 3: seeing such distressing images.
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Speaker 5: I have been distressed, and I want to I don't
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Speaker 5: mind saying that over and over again, but I still
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Speaker 5: make the same points that I have before.
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Speaker 3: The media today even went as far as to suggest
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Speaker 3: the opposition leader is being influenced.
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Speaker 4: Have you met with anyone from the Israel MBS in the.
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Speaker 2: Last of twenty four hourism?
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Speaker 8: Is that influencing your comments today?
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Speaker 5: I have conversations with a Jewish community across Australia all
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Speaker 5: the time. My comments are not influenced by my last meeting.
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Speaker 3: Well done to Susan Lee for her moral clarity on
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Speaker 3: this issue.
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Speaker 2: An image that some of these journalists keep referring to is.
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Speaker 3: Of this child. This is eighteen month old Mohammed Alan Mtuck.
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Speaker 3: The image, of course is heartbreak, but her musk is
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Speaker 3: telling the world he's been starved. But according to investigative
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Speaker 3: journalist David Collier, he suffers from a serious genetic illness
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Speaker 3: and cerebral palsy that is unrelated to the war but
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Speaker 3: has been widely shared. Colia also says this image has
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Speaker 3: been shared and cropped in a way that focuses on
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Speaker 3: the boy rather than his healthy mother holding him, and
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Speaker 3: she clearly is not starving now. Israel over the last
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Speaker 3: eighteen months has delivered more than one point three million
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Speaker 3: tons of humanitarian aid two Palestinian civilians by air, land
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Speaker 3: and sea, and has given advance warning for Gazans to
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Speaker 3: get to safety. Israel has the military might to have
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Speaker 3: wiped out the Gaza Strip already, but it's not done that.
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Speaker 3: Why is it so hard to believe that Israel is
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Speaker 3: fighting for its own survival, fighting for its fifty hostages
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Speaker 3: who are still being taken captive by her Mus, not
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Speaker 3: to mention, it's fighting terror for all of the Western world,
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Speaker 3: while Western leaders ker to the propaganda and the war
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Speaker 3: good end right now if he must just release the hostages.
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Speaker 3: And that is why it is so bizarre. The ABC's
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Speaker 3: Global Affairs editor, Laura Tingle decided to offer up her
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Speaker 3: view not on who can stop her Mus, but on
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Speaker 3: who can stop Israel.
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Speaker 9: You know, you just don't think it can get worse,
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Speaker 9: and it keeps getting worse. It's just beyond belief, apart
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Speaker 9: from the fact there's no food or water or sanitation.
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Speaker 9: So much of the Gaza Strip has been bombed to oblivion,
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Speaker 9: and all you can do is gradually ramp up the
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Speaker 9: pressure because the Israelis keep ramping up the pressure.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: Look, I have questions over the ABC's so called sources.
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Speaker 3: It claims health authorities in Gazas say the number of
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Speaker 3: Palestinians dying of starvation continues to rise even after Israel's
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Speaker 3: partial easing of aid restrictions across the strip, it goes
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Speaker 3: on to stay. The Palestinian Health Ministry says another fourteen
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Speaker 3: people have died from starvation and malnutrition in the last
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Speaker 3: twenty four hours. Well, who are these health officials? I mean,
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Speaker 3: it sounds about as credible as her musk. And as
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Speaker 3: for the Palestinian Health Ministry, it's run by the terrorists
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Speaker 3: group themselves.
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Speaker 2: And have a listen to.
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Speaker 3: This report by the ABC's Middle East correspondent Matthew Dorean.
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Speaker 8: The Ministry of Health says it takes the tally of
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Speaker 8: famine related deaths to more than one hundred. UN Secretary
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Speaker 8: General Antonio Guterra says it's another example of the flagrant
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Speaker 8: disregard for the basics of international law. Israel says it
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Speaker 8: views the transfer of aid into Gaza as a matter
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Speaker 8: of utmost importance and accuses her mass of disrupting aid
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Speaker 8: something the militant group denies.
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Speaker 2: Well, that settles it, then, doesn't it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if the militant group denies it, we should
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Speaker 3: absolutely be taking Harmasa's word for it, right. And as
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Speaker 3: for the United Nations, it's refusing to deliver aid, rejecting
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Speaker 3: offers by the US and Israel's Gaza Humanitarian Foundation to
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Speaker 3: liver the much needed help to civilians.
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Speaker 2: The UN's actions have been so deplorable.
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Speaker 3: US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee said, are the UN,
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Speaker 3: New York Times and Hamas all happy now?
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Speaker 2: I'm sure Hamas is Their lies and.
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Speaker 3: Propaganda destroyed the cease fire deal, tried to discredit the
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Speaker 3: safe and functioning GHF effort in boldened to muss. Everybody,
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Speaker 3: of course, wants this war to end, but the reality
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Speaker 3: is Hamus wants its own state, its terror state, and
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Speaker 3: to wipe out Israel. Hamas continues to use innocent Palestinians
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Speaker 3: as human shields while distorting the narrative on the world
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Speaker 3: stage so that Israel is demonized. It's fighting a war
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Speaker 3: on all fronts against Hamas, the Hooties, HESBLA, and Iran,
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Speaker 3: and it's fighting against a war.
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Speaker 2: It did not start.
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Speaker 3: It's refused to cease fire deal and continues its reign
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Speaker 3: of terror. It's to such a shame the media around
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Speaker 3: the world is being sucked into its narrative. Well, it
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Speaker 3: seems the Lord Mayor of Sydney has suffered another public hallucination.
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Speaker 3: She's seemingly forgotten her core duties of roads, rates and rubbish.
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Speaker 3: Clover more more like an activist, has voiced her support
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Speaker 3: for anti Israel activists to hijack the Harbor Bridge this weekend,
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Speaker 3: saying it would be an incredibly powerful symbol for our
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Speaker 3: most iconic landmark to be the site of a demonstration
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Speaker 3: against starvation in Gaza and in favor of lasting peace
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Speaker 3: or ge Clover, remember the last time one of our
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Speaker 3: most iconic landmarks was used for a demonstration. Yeah, and
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Speaker 3: those images went worldwide like a complete and utter embarrassment.
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Speaker 3: And the Lord Mayor speaks of the Harbor Bridge being
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Speaker 3: used as a site in favor of lasting peace. Gee,
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Speaker 3: what a gift of propaganda to harmas. I mean the
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Speaker 3: council can't deal with daily rubbish, fixed potholes, deal with rates,
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Speaker 3: but can take part in the peace process in the
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Speaker 3: Middle East.
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Speaker 2: I mean, give me a break. Clover.
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Speaker 3: Moore went on to say the government should work to
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Speaker 3: find a suitable alternate location for this week protest and
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Speaker 3: if the community sentiment is significant enough to warrant the
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Speaker 3: use of the bridge, the government should work with organizers
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Speaker 3: to plan for its use. How out of depth, seriously
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Speaker 3: is this woman, Clover? I wonder how business owners and
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Speaker 3: their employees in your council feel about the disruptions getting
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Speaker 3: to and from the city when the main artery connecting
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Speaker 3: them to the CBD is shut down or Clover?
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Speaker 2: Did you think about the impact to.
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Speaker 3: Business because people can't actually get into the city of
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Speaker 3: Sydney or Clover? How about the Jewish Australians in your
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Speaker 3: council did you give that any.
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Speaker 2: Thought as well?
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Speaker 3: How about the firefighters, police and ambulances who won't be
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Speaker 3: able to get across the bridge in emergencies? Did you
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Speaker 3: think of that one? Clover? No, you did not, or
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Speaker 3: I can tell you it's certainly a top concern of
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Police. We have had to waste a
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Speaker 3: lot of resources on this group already.
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Speaker 10: We have facilitated well over one hundred protests with this
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Speaker 10: particular group. We've worked with them, we have used alternative
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Speaker 10: routes previously where there has been rationale and reason behind that.
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Speaker 10: When we have conferred with them and have had those deliberations,
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Speaker 10: I think we've given them a really fair go.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think more than a fair goal, and they
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Speaker 3: keep taking and taking. In fact this evening, New South
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Speaker 3: Wales police have rejected the bid by these protesters to
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Speaker 3: shut down the bridge, but undeterred, the Palestine Action Group
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Speaker 3: has pledged to take their fight to the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 6: The bridge is a hugely iconic symbol, so that's why
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Speaker 6: we think it's a very important step because we need
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Speaker 6: to do whatever we can to try to stop this genocide.
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Speaker 6: If what they're saying is that they need more time
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Speaker 6: to help us organize this, then of course we're happy
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Speaker 6: to spend another week or whatever it will take. If
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Speaker 6: they're genuine about that.
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Speaker 3: Well perhaps this group can get Clover to help them out,
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Speaker 3: because it seems she has got to much free.
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Speaker 2: Time on her hands now. Has anyone done a welfare
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Speaker 2: check on Chris Bowen?
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Speaker 11: Last night there was a vote in the Senate. One
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Speaker 11: nation called on a vote opposing the zero. Two L
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Speaker 11: ANDP senators voted for it, two LMP senators voted against it,
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Speaker 11: and twenty two L ANDP senators were outside playing candy crush.
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Speaker 2: They didn't want anything to do with it.
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Speaker 11: This is vega, I mean, that's what you want a
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Speaker 11: bit of moral clarity about the biggest series facing our country.
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Speaker 2: Well, funny he should mention moral clarity.
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Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't that be terrific from the minister overseeing
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Speaker 3: an experiment of transmission lines, giant wind turbines, green hydrogens,
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Speaker 3: solar farms and batteries.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps the Minister could.
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Speaker 3: Shed some moral clarity on a emo on the left
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Speaker 3: leaning CSIRO's latest report, which has found coal is.
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Speaker 2: The cheapest form of electricity.
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Speaker 3: You know, that big, bad resource that the Minister for
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Speaker 3: Moral Clarity is so desperately trying to drive out of
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Speaker 3: our energy grid before his experiment even gets off the ground.
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Speaker 2: Joined me out for more on this is at my
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Speaker 2: paddle this evening.
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Speaker 3: Former Liberal Senator Holly Hughes and former Speaker of the
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Speaker 3: House Roman Bishop part of both of you. Thank you
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Speaker 3: so much for joining me on the show. Holly g
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Speaker 3: who could have ever predicted that coal would stage a comeback?
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Speaker 12: Look, it's just amazing that any government body that hasn't
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Speaker 12: just been delivering propaganda in the past has actually put
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Speaker 12: out a report like this. We know that the gen
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Speaker 12: cost review that they've been relying on to show the
12:35
Speaker 12: renewals of the cheapest form had actually already baked in
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Speaker 12: the cost of the rewiring the nation what we now
12:42
Speaker 12: know could cost up at up to a treating dollars
12:45
Speaker 12: had already been just baked into their report. But the
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Speaker 12: other thing that most people don't understand. Cold fight power
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Speaker 12: stations don't just flick on and off. You don't flick
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Speaker 12: the switch and they just turn on or off. The
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Speaker 12: fact that coal is still part of the mix means
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Speaker 12: that the cold fire power stations are still constantly going.
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Speaker 12: It just means that the energy that they're producing during
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Speaker 12: the day, when solar panels are feeding into the grid,
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Speaker 12: it's not getting utilized.
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Speaker 2: So emissions are exactly.
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Speaker 12: The same whether you have the solar and wind in
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Speaker 12: there or not. So whilst coal's remains a big part
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Speaker 12: of the mix, it's going to continue to emit exactly
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Speaker 12: the same level it always has. The fact that they
13:25
Speaker 12: still will not recognize so many nations are building what
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Speaker 12: are referred to as HELLI coal stations. They're high efficiency,
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Speaker 12: low emission coal fire power stations. They operate around thirty
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Speaker 12: percent of the emissions, and they're actually able to generate
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Speaker 12: base load reliable power that keeps the grid steady. And
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Speaker 12: I think that's another thing no one ever wants to
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Speaker 12: talk about is the intermittent nation in the intermittent way
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Speaker 12: that solar and wind operates actually puts the stability of
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Speaker 12: the grid at reach.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the reality his brob we actually need coal
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Speaker 3: to survive.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, And the CSRO for once has stated the bleeding obvious.
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Speaker 13: But the problem with the CSR is this. It was
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Speaker 13: once an iconic institution which did a lot of blue
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Speaker 13: sky research. It was truly independent, but then the labor government,
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Speaker 13: a previous labor government, turned it into a contracting body.
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Speaker 13: And so that's why you can't believe it anymore. And
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Speaker 13: if you look at the report, there arell sorts of
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Speaker 13: weasel words around it to try and explain why well, really,
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Speaker 13: wind and solar are the cheapest because because because because
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Speaker 13: none of the reasons they put forward in that report
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Speaker 13: stand up to scrutiny. And as for the man who's
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Speaker 13: just come to tell us we can only have fruit
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Speaker 13: once a year the future, I mean it really is
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Speaker 13: a cloud circus. It seriously is a cloud service. But
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Speaker 13: until we realize that Australia is blessed with the best
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Speaker 13: sources of energy in the world and we start to
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Speaker 13: use it again, we will go bankrupt. As a nation
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Speaker 13: because we're told we can't export our coal anymore. That's
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Speaker 13: our second largest export after iron ore and iron all
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Speaker 13: of course needs coal to be turned into steel. So
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Speaker 13: the whole thing is really a con which is from
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Speaker 13: day one, been about transferring the wealth of the West
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Speaker 13: to the rest of the world, the third world. And
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Speaker 13: it's not going to happen because there's going to be
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Speaker 13: enough people who are going to stand up for it.
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Speaker 13: We're already having people who on the conservative side are
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Speaker 13: speaking out of turn.
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Speaker 14: Good.
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Speaker 2: It's about time we surged.
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Speaker 13: Up the argument and had some more demonstrations.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're so resource abundant and you just think,
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Speaker 3: what on earth are.
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Speaker 2: We doing now?
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Speaker 3: You alluded to this just a moment ago, Browin, but look,
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Speaker 3: Chris Bowen has met his match, you and Climate Chief
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Speaker 3: Simon Steele, who's been out telling anyone who listened that
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Speaker 3: Australia is going.
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Speaker 2: To cause the world to overheat.
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Speaker 3: If we don't lift our ambitions on a mission's reduction,
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Speaker 3: and that mega droughts will make fresh fruit and veg
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Speaker 3: a once a year treat. In total, the country could
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Speaker 3: face a six point eight trillion dollar GDP lost by.
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Speaker 2: Twenty to fifty.
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Speaker 3: Wow, Holy, this bloke makes Chris Bowen look mild, and
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Speaker 3: that's saying something.
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Speaker 12: I think mister Steele should head back to Grenada or
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Speaker 12: we're rees from I mean, can someone point out to
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Speaker 12: these guys in the UN that Australia amits one point
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Speaker 12: three percent of global emissions.
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Speaker 4: If we all.
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Speaker 12: Shut down today, within ten days, China would have already
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Speaker 12: started to produce more emissions than we do in a year.
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Speaker 12: It is just insanity the fact that we are allowing
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Speaker 12: ourselves to be lectured too, whether it's by the International
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Speaker 12: Court of Justice with Vanahatu, whether it's this mist steal
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Speaker 12: from the United Nations. I mean, look, I have a
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Speaker 12: very strong view on the United Nations, and it's not
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Speaker 12: one that's very endearing all them. But this is insanity
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Speaker 12: and if anyone is stupid enough, and.
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Speaker 4: By the way, went on his smaller.
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Speaker 12: Side, I noticed you said the clown circus did you
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Speaker 12: see today Dante and got thrown out for using the
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Speaker 12: word clown under ninety four A under you, darling, because
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Speaker 12: this place is a circus, and I.
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Speaker 13: Know I don't think it would have for this guy.
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Speaker 2: That never happened, never happened on your eye.
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Speaker 13: I had plenty of people to throw out who offended previously.
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Speaker 2: Well you would have done it was on the list. No,
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Speaker 2: no clowns on the list. No, exactly, there were plenty
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Speaker 2: of clowns. I'm sure there were.
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Speaker 3: But speaking of clowns, I mean, gosh, this is climate
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Speaker 3: Boffin's went to Australia.
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Speaker 13: I tried to look up just who this guy was.
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Speaker 13: Very difficult to find out just who he was. When
17:41
Speaker 13: he was an environment minister for a while in Grenada.
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Speaker 13: It says he has an engineering background, but when you
17:46
Speaker 13: try to find out what that is, I think he
17:49
Speaker 13: studied it for a bit but didn't complete it. Then
17:52
Speaker 13: he got an MBA from somewhere around the place, but
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Speaker 13: you know, anybody can get one of those, and it
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Speaker 13: worked up really And then he wants to pont to
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Speaker 13: go to us about what we should do. I mean,
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Speaker 13: he is a political apparatic of the UN, trying to
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Speaker 13: jump up fear and bush a bush us about the head. Well,
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Speaker 13: my words to him, mister Steeles, please go home. We
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Speaker 13: don't need you.
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Speaker 3: Well said, I mean, as simple as that, off you
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Speaker 3: go go away. As I said, he makes Chris Bowen
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Speaker 3: look mild and gee that's saying something for sure. Now
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Speaker 3: I mentioned this just before Clover Moore seems to have
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Speaker 3: relinquished her duties of taking care of Rhodes rates and
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Speaker 3: rubbish to insert herself into this planned Harbor Bridge protest,
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Speaker 3: claiming it would be a powerful symbol. Holy remember the
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Speaker 3: last time one of our iconic landmarks was the sight
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Speaker 3: of a demonstration.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that went well, didn't it.
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Speaker 12: Globally stream photos of the Opera House with people's streaming,
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Speaker 12: you know, screaming gas Jews.
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Speaker 4: Where are the Jews?
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Speaker 12: Whoever was listening to whatever they could decipher was being said.
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Speaker 4: It was an.
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Speaker 12: Absolute international embarrassment for our country. We saw Chris Means
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Speaker 12: refuse to light up the Opera House when I asked
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Speaker 12: him to do so, when the Bibber's family were being
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Speaker 12: recognized around the world. Even China could bring themselves to
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Speaker 12: light up buildings of orange to recognize the loss of
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Speaker 12: the Bibber's children, the murder of them by Hamas Yet,
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Speaker 12: Clover More, I mean, I live in this area and
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Speaker 12: I catch up with people regularly round the City of
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Speaker 12: Sydney Council.
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Speaker 2: I cannot find anyone who acknowledges.
19:21
Speaker 12: That they vote for her.
19:23
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just extraordinary.
19:24
Speaker 12: This woman keeps getting re elected and I'd like to
19:27
Speaker 12: see her focus more on picking up the rubbish, to
19:29
Speaker 12: ensuring the rats aren't everywhere, which is doing no favors for.
19:33
Speaker 4: The businesses in the city of Sydney.
19:35
Speaker 12: Yet she's too focused on these sorts of ridiculous, pointless activities.
19:40
Speaker 12: I mean, it is just it's nothing but virtue signaling.
19:43
Speaker 4: And as someone who lives in Sydney, and I'm.
19:45
Speaker 12: Sure many other people have been affected when they run
19:48
Speaker 12: through the Sydney city every week, disrupting traffic and blocking
19:52
Speaker 12: off straights, it's they're just annoying and they're stupid and
19:56
Speaker 12: they just really should stop it because it's not going
19:58
Speaker 12: to achieve anything and it's just causing more and more
20:01
Speaker 12: difficulties for people that actually do do the right thing.
20:04
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, enough is enough of this nonsense.
20:07
Speaker 3: But as for Clover more, I mean browin Seriously, why
20:10
Speaker 3: doesn't she just actually stick.
20:11
Speaker 2: To her day job and doing her day by day duty.
20:14
Speaker 13: She doesn't even do that because she's ruined the streets
20:16
Speaker 13: of Sydney with all the doreactful bitelines all over the
20:19
Speaker 13: place dangerous, they're downright dangerous, and I just find that
20:25
Speaker 13: Clover really should not be there anymore. Look, the conventional
20:30
Speaker 13: wisdom used to be when a new government came in,
20:32
Speaker 13: they sacked the city council, changed the boundaries and elected
20:36
Speaker 13: a council that was compatible with the government of the day.
20:39
Speaker 13: Barrier Farrell didn't do that, and then none of the
20:41
Speaker 13: liberal governments do it. Now the Labor Party hasn't done it.
20:44
Speaker 13: But enough is enough. They are contrived boundaries that get
20:48
Speaker 13: her re elected every time. And the sort of nonsense
20:52
Speaker 13: that goes on. You wanted to close half the golf course,
20:57
Speaker 13: that means is going along with it all seems to
21:00
Speaker 13: boil down with the partnership the Clover Moore has with
21:03
Speaker 13: a member for Sydney, and they might have to rely
21:06
Speaker 13: on his vote, so it's not a good relationship and
21:10
Speaker 13: it really has to come to an end. And when
21:12
Speaker 13: she talks about using the iconic bridge, it did bring
21:16
Speaker 13: back what happened at the Opera House, because there's nothing
21:19
Speaker 13: more iconic than that. But the thing about that was
21:22
Speaker 13: is that it occurred before Israel did anything at all.
21:27
Speaker 13: Good point and those little cells all around the world were activated. Now,
21:32
Speaker 13: Eisenhower said when he liberated the concentration games in Germany,
21:37
Speaker 13: and we saw the Jews who were being staffed to death.
21:41
Speaker 13: That was genocide. He said, photograph it and show it,
21:45
Speaker 13: because otherwise people will say it didn't happen. Now, the
21:48
Speaker 13: dreadful atrocity that happened on the seventh of October, which
21:53
Speaker 13: led to those twelve hundred people dead and mutilated, and
21:57
Speaker 13: the most appalling atrocity is happening. It was not made
22:01
Speaker 13: public and it should have been in people's face. The
22:04
Speaker 13: people who have seen it say it is just terrifyingly bad.
22:08
Speaker 13: But people deny it happened because it wasn't in their face.
22:12
Speaker 13: Good point, So we have to remind people that it's been.
22:17
Speaker 13: If you like a conspiracy, it's been around the world
22:21
Speaker 13: and we've got useful idiots who are just perpetuating.
22:24
Speaker 3: And I mean, you walk through the city of Sydney,
22:26
Speaker 3: the pathways are uneven. But good on Clover Moore, you know,
22:29
Speaker 3: really her prioritizers, she's going to bring peace to the
22:32
Speaker 3: Middle East through her support of this ridiculous protest. Brow
22:36
Speaker 3: and Bishop Holly Hughes, thank you so much for joining
22:38
Speaker 3: me on the show this evening.
22:39
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it.
22:40
Speaker 3: Well, let's stick with this because Labor backbencher Ed Hugh
22:43
Speaker 3: Sick has asked Anthony Albanesi why it would take him
22:46
Speaker 3: so long to recognize a Palestinian state during a meeting
22:49
Speaker 3: of the Labor Caucus today. While it's been reported, the
22:52
Speaker 3: Prime Minister told caucus that claims of no starvation are
22:56
Speaker 3: beyond comprehension. The PM also signaled he believes Gaza will
23:00
Speaker 3: be freed from Hamasa's rule, paving the way for recognition
23:03
Speaker 3: of a Palestinian state. Joining me now is Liberal senator
23:07
Speaker 3: and former Australian Ambassador to Israel Dave Shama.
23:10
Speaker 2: Dave, thanks so much for joining me. Look, I spoke.
23:15
Speaker 3: About this earlier as well, this demonization of Israel, not
23:18
Speaker 3: just by Labor but the media here in Australia, the
23:20
Speaker 3: media around the world based on these images that are
23:23
Speaker 3: coming out of Gaza, which, while sad, is based on
23:27
Speaker 3: a lie being fed by Hamas of starvation.
23:33
Speaker 15: Well, look, I mean there's no doubt that the reason
23:36
Speaker 15: we're in this situation we're in, the reason that people
23:38
Speaker 15: are Gaza and a terrible situation therein is because Hamas
23:43
Speaker 15: launched those horrific terrorist attacks against Israel on the seventh
23:46
Speaker 15: of October twenty twenty three killed hundreds of Israeli civilians
23:51
Speaker 15: that took a large number two hundred and fifty hostage.
23:53
Speaker 15: It continues to hold fifty of them. And there is
23:57
Speaker 15: a ceasefi ideal on the table which the United States,
24:00
Speaker 15: Egypt and KATA have helped negotiate, which Israel has agreed
24:04
Speaker 15: to sign up to, which would end this conflict, which
24:06
Speaker 15: would release the hostages, which would allow more humanitarian aid
24:10
Speaker 15: into Gaza. Hamas continues to refuse to sign that. Now,
24:14
Speaker 15: you know, that doesn't mean that the humanitarian situation in
24:18
Speaker 15: Gaza is fine, but it's important to recognize that we're
24:22
Speaker 15: ultimate responsibility for this situation lies.
24:25
Speaker 2: No, I completely agree with you.
24:26
Speaker 3: It was interesting comments by Donald Trump today. He's contradicted
24:29
Speaker 3: Benjamin ETTNYA who he claims that starvation in Gaza is real.
24:33
Speaker 2: This is what he said.
24:35
Speaker 1: That's real starvation stuff. I see it and you can't
24:39
Speaker 1: fake that.
24:41
Speaker 2: Dave, what do you make of Donald Trump's intervention?
24:45
Speaker 1: Well, look, I.
24:46
Speaker 15: Think he's reacting and understandably to the images we're seeing.
24:49
Speaker 15: And look, I don't think you can brush all this
24:51
Speaker 15: offers as facal ai generated or untrue. I mean it's clear,
24:58
Speaker 15: you know, Israeli military and the Israeli security establishment has
25:03
Speaker 15: eased back on combat operations the last few days. They
25:05
Speaker 15: are co operating to get more humanitarian assistance in It's
25:08
Speaker 15: clear that there has not been to my mind at
25:11
Speaker 15: least enough humanitarian assistance going into Gars, and that is
25:14
Speaker 15: having consequences for the population. I think Donald Trump is
25:18
Speaker 15: reacting to that in his inimitable fashion, you know, just
25:22
Speaker 15: telling it how he sees it.
25:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:24
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, look, I think it is interesting. But
25:26
Speaker 3: I do wonder where this is going now with labor,
25:29
Speaker 3: particularly given that Anthony aberanese Is rhetoric towards Israel has
25:33
Speaker 3: gotten stronger and stronger since he's been re elected. But Dave,
25:37
Speaker 3: I just want to move on to another issue now.
25:39
Speaker 3: Let's talk about net zero. Opposition leader Susan Lee seems
25:45
Speaker 3: to be really struggling to unite the party on this here.
25:47
Speaker 2: She was today.
25:50
Speaker 3: Actually no, so today she was talking about it again.
25:52
Speaker 3: She was asked, you know why they need to have
25:54
Speaker 3: a review into net zero.
25:56
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you.
25:57
Speaker 3: Matt Canavan said earlier, it doesn't matter if the coal
26:00
Speaker 3: debate over net zero gets messy because the coalition is
26:02
Speaker 3: irrelevant right now.
26:04
Speaker 2: Does he have a point?
26:08
Speaker 15: Look, I think he does have a point in the
26:10
Speaker 15: sense that, you know, we do need to go through
26:13
Speaker 15: these internal policy reviews and processes, and that's what Susan
26:17
Speaker 15: committed to when she became the leader. People have got
26:19
Speaker 15: different views on this. I respect the views differing views
26:22
Speaker 15: of my colleagues on this as well. And you know,
26:25
Speaker 15: we're better off having these arguments and settling these disputes
26:29
Speaker 15: at this point in the electoral cycle, you know, rather
26:32
Speaker 15: than in one or two years time.
26:35
Speaker 3: But I mean, given that there are members of the Coalition,
26:38
Speaker 3: particularly the Nationals, who are saying get rid of net zero,
26:42
Speaker 3: you have to admit you are facing an inevitable split
26:46
Speaker 3: on this.
26:48
Speaker 15: Well, look, you David Little Proud and his leadership team
26:52
Speaker 15: will make a decision for the Nationals. Susan Lee and
26:55
Speaker 15: her leadership team will reach a decision for the Liberals,
26:58
Speaker 15: and then we'll need to figure out how that works
27:00
Speaker 15: in the coalition agreement. But one of the things I
27:03
Speaker 15: said to our party room, I don't only discuss what's
27:08
Speaker 15: what takes place in the party room, but I said
27:11
Speaker 15: in one of our first meetings of the year, Look,
27:13
Speaker 15: we need to certainly listen to the voices in this room,
27:16
Speaker 15: but we also need to remember that we've lost a
27:18
Speaker 15: lot of people from this room, and we also need
27:20
Speaker 15: to be mindful of their voices and their views and
27:22
Speaker 15: their opinions because they represented seats that we will need
27:26
Speaker 15: to win back to have a whole performing government. So
27:29
Speaker 15: we do need to have this conversation. It's going to
27:31
Speaker 15: need to be broader than just those members of Parliament
27:34
Speaker 15: who are just sitting here today, because clearly we don't
27:37
Speaker 15: have a pathway to government with that sized party room,
27:40
Speaker 15: and we'll need to factor all of that into our
27:42
Speaker 15: deliberations and discussions.
27:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well, I mean I think will be
27:47
Speaker 3: very interesting to see where this goes, because certainly it's
27:51
Speaker 3: splitting the coalition right now, Dave, I want to talk
27:54
Speaker 3: to you about tap and go. You've written a piece
27:56
Speaker 3: in the Financial Review this week criticizing the use of
27:59
Speaker 3: tap and go fees on f post machines. You say,
28:02
Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank of Australia calculates that Australians paid one
28:05
Speaker 3: point two billion dollars in cart surve charges last year.
28:08
Speaker 3: That's a lot of money right in the middle of
28:10
Speaker 3: a cost of living crisis. Do you think it's time
28:12
Speaker 3: for these fees to be scrapped?
28:15
Speaker 1: I do.
28:16
Speaker 15: I mean, I just find it bizarre that you pay
28:20
Speaker 15: for something with your own money and then you charge
28:21
Speaker 15: for the privilege of doing so. I mean, no one
28:24
Speaker 15: would accept paying a cash surch charge. For instance, if
28:26
Speaker 15: you hand it over a twenty dollar note to pay
28:28
Speaker 15: for your groceries, no one would, except that there should
28:31
Speaker 15: be a surcharge imposed upon that payment. But cash costs
28:34
Speaker 15: more to manage for the banks that sit behind the
28:37
Speaker 15: merchants and the businesses themselves that an electronic transaction when
28:40
Speaker 15: you're just moving electrons and bits of data, and I
28:42
Speaker 15: think our fees are too high. In Australia, surcharging on
28:46
Speaker 15: tap and go transactions is becoming almost uniform now practice
28:50
Speaker 15: or is becoming very widespread. And the costs that the
28:53
Speaker 15: banks are charging merchants, the so called interchange fees for
28:57
Speaker 15: using an electronic transaction, are way out of portion to
29:00
Speaker 15: the actual cost of providing that service. And that's why
29:03
Speaker 15: I think the Reserve Banker is right to look at
29:04
Speaker 15: this and I believe they should address it.
29:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's sort of money in particular
29:08
Speaker 3: in the middle of a cost of living crisis is outrageous.
29:11
Speaker 3: Dave Shalmer, good to see you. Thanks very much for
29:12
Speaker 3: joining me on the show this evening.
29:15
Speaker 2: We'll stay with us.
29:15
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, Donald Trump continues, Here's no
29:18
Speaker 3: Punchers tour of Europe, this time taking UK Prime Minister
29:21
Speaker 3: Kiir Starmer to task over migration, censorship and even the
29:25
Speaker 3: Lord Mayor of London.
29:26
Speaker 2: Plus new developments in the landmark Tickle versus Giggle case.
29:30
Speaker 3: I'll be joined by CEO of Giggle App, Salgrove next.
29:37
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
29:38
Speaker 3: Well, the case of Giggle versus Tickle is shaping up
29:41
Speaker 3: to be the nation's most meaningful and consequential legal battle
29:45
Speaker 3: over women's rights. Now you recall, this case centers around
29:48
Speaker 3: giggle app founder Sal Grover, who was found last year
29:51
Speaker 3: to have unlawfully rejected biological man roxand Tickle from the
29:55
Speaker 3: female only networking platform after a court ruled.
29:58
Speaker 2: That sex isble.
30:01
Speaker 3: Now gay and trans rights group Equality Australia is bidding
30:05
Speaker 3: to join Tickle, arguing that female only spaces are unlawful
30:10
Speaker 3: if they.
30:10
Speaker 2: Exclude trans women. Joddy me.
30:13
Speaker 3: Now for more on this is Sal Grover herself. Sal
30:15
Speaker 3: always lovely to speak with you. Look, I've got to
30:18
Speaker 3: say every time you and I speak, there's been a
30:21
Speaker 3: new and bizarre development in this case.
30:23
Speaker 2: So explain it to us. Not only are you up.
30:26
Speaker 3: Against the Sex Discrimination Commission, but now Equality Australia has
30:30
Speaker 3: joined the fight to claim that men can be women.
30:34
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you so much for having me on. That's
30:36
Speaker 4: exactly what's happening. Basically, Equality Australia, which is one of
30:43
Speaker 4: the biggest of lgbt QI plus organizations in the country,
30:47
Speaker 4: has applied to intervene. As reported in The Australia. It
30:50
Speaker 4: has been noted that they have not yet been approved
30:53
Speaker 4: to be intervener as in the case, and that will
30:55
Speaker 4: be the first thing that's dealt with next Monday when
30:57
Speaker 4: the appeal hearing begins. But they are coming in in
31:01
Speaker 4: agreement with the Sex Discrimination Commissioner and TI full Side
31:05
Speaker 4: saying that sex is changeable. And obviously there's huge ramifications
31:10
Speaker 4: for this, because if you say that sex is changeable,
31:12
Speaker 4: then suddenly what's a woman, what's a man, what's a lesbian,
31:17
Speaker 4: what's a gay man? I mean, these things that are
31:21
Speaker 4: just reality for completely and utterly away. And so it
31:26
Speaker 4: really is what this case actually comes down to is
31:28
Speaker 4: one side is saying that this is reality. Sex is
31:33
Speaker 4: not changeable. Documents are changeable. Sure, we can accept that
31:36
Speaker 4: documents can be changeable and laws can be changeable, but
31:39
Speaker 4: sex is not changeable. It is binary, is mutable. We're
31:44
Speaker 4: all going to have to accept that. The people who
31:45
Speaker 4: know that most of all, in fact, are the people
31:47
Speaker 4: who are trying to reject their sex. The only way
31:49
Speaker 4: that a man would be even making the claim that
31:51
Speaker 4: he is a woman is because he is very much
31:54
Speaker 4: aware that he is a man. So we're really fighting
31:58
Speaker 4: for all Australians to not have to believe ideology at
32:02
Speaker 4: the end of the day. And this, as I say
32:04
Speaker 4: every single time I'm on here, this affects everyone. Women's
32:07
Speaker 4: rights and lesbian rants are the canary and the car line.
32:09
Speaker 4: Everyone else will be next. So if you don't want
32:12
Speaker 4: to be in this position, please pay attention to what's
32:14
Speaker 4: happening right now.
32:15
Speaker 2: Oh look absolutely.
32:17
Speaker 3: And the other thing I defined so bizarre about this
32:19
Speaker 3: sal is that Equality Australia is not only challenging your argument,
32:24
Speaker 3: but it's going up against the lesbian action groups assertion
32:27
Speaker 3: that sex is a binary biological reality. So basically, We've
32:31
Speaker 3: got a situation where we've got a group which prides
32:34
Speaker 3: itself on being the lobby for gays and lesbians going
32:37
Speaker 3: up against the lesbian group. You can't make this stuff up.
32:40
Speaker 3: How far does a quality stretch for the left?
32:44
Speaker 4: Well, I mean every single claim that gender ideology makes
32:47
Speaker 4: the exact opposite is true, and that can very much
32:49
Speaker 4: be applied to the concept of equality in the Equality Australia.
32:53
Speaker 4: This is inequality is what's being demanded here. If there's
32:59
Speaker 4: no concept of biological sex, is no concept of a lesbian,
33:03
Speaker 4: it's set. But they're both women and that they have
33:06
Speaker 4: a sexual orientation to other women. So it's twofold. So
33:11
Speaker 4: the L in Equality Australia's LGBTQI plus acronym is under
33:17
Speaker 4: attack by Equality Australia itself. So in one sense, you're
33:21
Speaker 4: sort of because I've known so much about this so
33:25
Speaker 4: long and been studying it all and following everything that's happening,
33:27
Speaker 4: you go, wow, here it is in black and white.
33:29
Speaker 4: They are actually saying it. They're going all in. They're
33:32
Speaker 4: saying that sex has nothing to do with this. It
33:35
Speaker 4: is completely changeable. Don't make this a defining factor. It
33:40
Speaker 4: must be noted that Equality Australia was an organization that
33:45
Speaker 4: fought for same sex marriage, so they knew what biological
33:50
Speaker 4: sex was. Then these amendments into the Sex Discrimination Act
33:54
Speaker 4: came in in twenty thirteen under the Julia Gillard government.
33:58
Speaker 4: The plever site for same sex marriag marriage was sent
34:00
Speaker 4: out to all Australians in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, that's
34:03
Speaker 4: when same sex marriage came in, so the government legislation,
34:08
Speaker 4: they knew exactly what sex is. The fact that we're
34:11
Speaker 4: sitting here having this debate now that sex is not changeable,
34:14
Speaker 4: that sex is changeable, and that sex is not binary,
34:17
Speaker 4: this is nonsense. They all know, they all know that
34:21
Speaker 4: sex is a real thing.
34:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they can't not. And it's such nonsense.
34:26
Speaker 3: You're right, and it's also just so offensive that we
34:28
Speaker 3: even have to have this argument.
34:30
Speaker 2: I just find it ridiculous.
34:31
Speaker 3: And look, if any of our youers want to help
34:33
Speaker 3: your case here, do visit giggle crowdfund dot com. I
34:36
Speaker 3: know you are heading to court next week, so before
34:39
Speaker 3: we let you go. Last week, the US Olympic and
34:41
Speaker 3: Paralympic Committee banned trans athletes from competition Australia's yet to
34:46
Speaker 3: follow suit. I mean, you mentioned it's in our laws
34:49
Speaker 3: at the moment. Why are we grasping at gender ideology.
34:53
Speaker 3: It's like we're holding on to it so firmly in
34:56
Speaker 3: this country.
34:57
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like Australia is not only the best and
35:00
Speaker 4: on the Titanic while it sinks. I mean, we're in
35:03
Speaker 4: the kitchen making breakfast thinking there's going to be a
35:05
Speaker 4: boat the next morning. With this, it's just mind blowing.
35:09
Speaker 4: But I will say trans athletes are not banned from
35:13
Speaker 4: the Olympics. Male is a banned from competing in the
35:16
Speaker 4: women's category. That's it. The men in dresses are completely
35:20
Speaker 4: welcome to go and compete with the men in shorts.
35:23
Speaker 4: It's that simple. And if Australia does not get in
35:27
Speaker 4: line with this, we are going to be what left
35:30
Speaker 4: line maybe with Canada as the only countries that are
35:35
Speaker 4: just denying reality and putting cheetahs into the women's competition
35:39
Speaker 4: and trying to turn it into a whole joke while
35:41
Speaker 4: everybody else is actually playing by the rules. So at
35:45
Speaker 4: the end of the day, no matter what happens, say
35:47
Speaker 4: with the giggle veticle appeal or anything else, that's happening.
35:51
Speaker 4: There's lots of other women who are fighting this, such
35:53
Speaker 4: as Carly Smith in Australia. The reality is the Sex
35:57
Speaker 4: Discrimination Commissioner is coming up against international law and guidelines
36:01
Speaker 4: because the zone ghost is changing. We're not in twenty
36:04
Speaker 4: twenty anymore. A lot of people know what is happening,
36:07
Speaker 4: what has been happening, and do not want to be
36:10
Speaker 4: punished for acknowledging what they see with their own eyes
36:14
Speaker 4: and for agreeing with basic reality. I have a three
36:18
Speaker 4: year old daughter. She understands basic reality, but at some
36:21
Speaker 4: of these people do and so it's very shameful that
36:24
Speaker 4: they're leading our organizations.
36:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. Well look South, keep
36:28
Speaker 2: up the good fighters.
36:30
Speaker 1: Always.
36:30
Speaker 3: As I keep saying, I'm very curious to see how
36:33
Speaker 3: this all goes. Sal Grover, good to chat as always,
36:36
Speaker 3: Thanks so.
36:36
Speaker 2: Much for joining me on the show this evening, We're
36:39
Speaker 2: coming up after the break.
36:40
Speaker 3: Australia is in the firing line as Donald Trump warns
36:42
Speaker 3: of fifteen to twenty percent baseline tariffs. Get Anthony alb
36:45
Speaker 3: and Easy still can't get a meeting. I'll be joined
36:48
Speaker 3: by my panel James Willison, Cameron Milner next. Welcome back Well,
36:55
Speaker 3: Labor says it's adopting a watch and wait strategy on
36:58
Speaker 3: trade with the US, despite the US pres issuing a
37:00
Speaker 3: fresh warning over the baseline tariff rates.
37:04
Speaker 14: We're going to be setting a tariff for essentially the
37:09
Speaker 14: rest of the world, and that's what they're going to
37:11
Speaker 14: pay if they want to do business India, that says.
37:13
Speaker 14: I would say it'll be somewhere in the fifteen to
37:15
Speaker 14: twenty percent range.
37:17
Speaker 2: And here was Opposition leader Susan Lee.
37:20
Speaker 5: I just regret the way that the government seems to
37:23
Speaker 5: be shrugging its shoulders all these months after Donald Trump
37:27
Speaker 5: became president. The meeting, the vital meeting between Anthony Alberzi
37:33
Speaker 5: and the President has not taken place. Anthony Alberanzi appears
37:36
Speaker 5: to be running up the white flag.
37:39
Speaker 3: Joamy now Is, Daily Telegraph journalist James Willis and GXO Strategies.
37:43
Speaker 2: Director Cameron Milner.
37:44
Speaker 3: Hi to both of you, thank you so much for
37:46
Speaker 3: joining me on the show. You know, James Albo still
37:48
Speaker 3: can't get a meeting. It's not like Donald Trump isn't
37:50
Speaker 3: meeting with world leaders.
37:52
Speaker 2: The guy's flying everywhere. He's meeting with people.
37:54
Speaker 3: But is this not another example of why our prime
37:56
Speaker 3: minister needs a meeting.
37:57
Speaker 16: Well, that's right, And if you have a look at
37:59
Speaker 16: the president's schedules since taking office for the second time
38:02
Speaker 16: earlier this year, and have a look at all the
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Speaker 16: world leaders that he's met with, some of them multiple times,
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Speaker 16: and the fact that our prime minister has no issue
38:09
Speaker 16: getting on a plane and has met with Chinese leaders,
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Speaker 16: but also just flying to a range of global events,
38:15
Speaker 16: loves getting on what is a toto or air force albow,
38:18
Speaker 16: whatever it's called.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a really obvious one.
38:21
Speaker 16: And as time goes on with Parliament sort of back,
38:24
Speaker 16: this should have happened by now, and we can take
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Speaker 16: the bushfire watch an Act approach and stand back and
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Speaker 16: say what we just hope and pray it all goes away.
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Speaker 1: The reality is.
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Speaker 16: The meeting should have happened by now, even if that
38:35
Speaker 16: included the Prime Minister getting on his plane, flying to
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Speaker 16: the White House and actually sitting down paying dues.
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Speaker 1: To Donald Trump. That's the kind of diplomacy he enjoys.
38:44
Speaker 1: That should have happened.
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Speaker 16: The other point I just make is that the government,
38:49
Speaker 16: the Albanezy government's safeguard mechanism, which is designed to basically
38:54
Speaker 16: punish the biggest emitters in Australia could potentially.
38:58
Speaker 1: Be more damaging than any sort of tariffs.
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Speaker 16: So we've got to look at our own backyard, some
39:03
Speaker 16: of the policies we put in place on the big
39:05
Speaker 16: energy users, and any sort of relief we can give
39:07
Speaker 16: in that space. But certainly the whole thing has been
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Speaker 16: cocked up, and just to sit back and say we'll
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Speaker 16: wait and see is really not the way to go
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Speaker 16: about this.
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's ridiculous. I like the bushfire watching act. I
39:17
Speaker 3: think that's absolutely spot on, Cameron. You know, we've got
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albernesi's is banking on a series of upcoming summits
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Speaker 3: in the hope that he might get Donald Trump on
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Speaker 3: the sidelines. But if Trump is shifting the goalpost on
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Speaker 3: these tariffs, surely this is more proof that a meeting
39:32
Speaker 3: is urgent.
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Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely, Denika.
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Speaker 1: And it's getting embarrassing, isn't it.
39:37
Speaker 7: I mean, isn't it shocking that Australia is not just
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Speaker 7: watching and waiting. We wait to get the back of
39:42
Speaker 7: the queue, back of the queue with the rest of
39:43
Speaker 7: the world, and we're supposed to have a special relationship,
39:45
Speaker 7: or at least we did as Australia and the US
39:48
Speaker 7: up until Anthony Alberezi, where Anthony Albertez he tried to
39:51
Speaker 7: use Donald Trump as a punchline his election campaign. But
39:53
Speaker 7: wonder the Donald doesn't want to necessarily meet with Anthony.
39:56
Speaker 7: But Anthony Alberanze is not making the effort. I mean
39:58
Speaker 7: he's not even dropping in text message. You can't even
40:01
Speaker 7: get a phone call returned from the White House. Yet
40:03
Speaker 7: Kistarmer had an over an hour on the couch, an
40:06
Speaker 7: hour on the couch with the US President. So, as
40:09
Speaker 7: you say, James Trump is more than accessible to world
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Speaker 7: leaders who want to go and meet him, world leaders
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Speaker 7: who got something to say, and Anthony Alberyez is, unfortunately
40:17
Speaker 7: for Australia's sake, waiting at the back of the queue
40:19
Speaker 7: thinking somehow that's virtuous.
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Speaker 1: Well it's not.
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Speaker 7: It's just embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree.
40:24
Speaker 3: Now, look, you mentioned Kios Starmer, and perhaps this is
40:26
Speaker 3: why albo is just so scared to meet with Trump,
40:29
Speaker 3: because the US President he's not held back on his
40:31
Speaker 3: jaunt around Europe.
40:32
Speaker 2: Yesterday he was out schooling the.
40:34
Speaker 3: EU Commissions Ursula von Delayan on renewables, but today he
40:38
Speaker 3: gave KOs Starmer a piece of his mind.
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Speaker 14: Have a look, will you please uncensored if they sense
40:44
Speaker 14: to me you're making a mistake.
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Speaker 5: The President makes it look easy dealing with illegal migration.
40:49
Speaker 2: You must be envious of his record. Is such a
40:52
Speaker 2: short period of time.
40:53
Speaker 10: Well, I think we've been discussing.
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Speaker 14: I think he's not terrible Joe the mayor of London
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Speaker 14: from a nasty person.
41:03
Speaker 2: I think she's a friend of mine.
41:05
Speaker 14: Russia, I think you should have a terrible Joe.
41:09
Speaker 2: No, he's a friend of mine. Can't say that.
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Speaker 3: I mean Ken Starmer's face throughout that whole thing, James
41:14
Speaker 3: was priceless.
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Speaker 2: The man was quivering in his boots.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, and this is the kind of diplomacy the Daily
41:21
Speaker 16: News grabs that we have never ever seen. And I'm
41:24
Speaker 16: happy to stand corrected on that. But I don't think
41:25
Speaker 16: there's been a world leader like Donald Trump. We remember
41:28
Speaker 16: the tag team between him and jd Vance with Ukraine
41:32
Speaker 16: leader Zelenski.
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Speaker 1: Earlier this year. We've had him show the real of
41:36
Speaker 1: all the alleged.
41:37
Speaker 16: Atrocities to white farmers, to the South African leader. This
41:41
Speaker 16: is the greatest show on Earth in terms of politics
41:43
Speaker 16: at the moment.
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Speaker 1: And look I think it's refreshing.
41:45
Speaker 16: I think often politicians bite their tongues and try and
41:48
Speaker 16: just be as polite as possible. He calls it like
41:51
Speaker 16: it is. He doesn't like the London mayor. There's reasons
41:54
Speaker 16: not to like him. In my view, a lot of
41:56
Speaker 16: people would have been nodding at that. Keith Starmer's got
41:58
Speaker 16: to play the straight back, but Trump's off the chain.
42:01
Speaker 16: I think it's great people hate him. I don't care
42:04
Speaker 16: about that. I think it's like it's incredible entertainment. But
42:08
Speaker 16: also he is getting things done and whether you like
42:11
Speaker 16: him or not, he has an amazing ability to get
42:13
Speaker 16: a deal done.
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Speaker 3: I agree, and he says it like it is Cameron,
42:16
Speaker 3: I mean, gee, wouldn't it be great if some of
42:17
Speaker 3: our politicians here in Australia were so bold?
42:22
Speaker 14: Well?
42:23
Speaker 1: Yes, except I have to differ.
42:25
Speaker 7: I mean I watched the full interview and over that
42:27
Speaker 7: hour was actually quite convivial between Starmar and Trump, and
42:29
Speaker 7: in fact Trump actually said that part of the stuff
42:31
Speaker 7: that Starmer had introduced was what Milannia had actually introduced
42:34
Speaker 7: or helped sponsor in the Congress. So they did have
42:37
Speaker 7: a much better conversation than some of those clips. But
42:39
Speaker 7: one thing I would say is that Johnald Trump can
42:41
Speaker 7: be nasty too. I mean, his comments from his lawyers
42:43
Speaker 7: today about Rupert Murdock were disgusting, but they basically said
42:46
Speaker 7: that they want a deposition from Rupert Murdock in the
42:48
Speaker 7: next fourteen days because he was too old.
42:50
Speaker 1: And he might die.
42:51
Speaker 7: That's disgraceful. So Trump goes over the top too far sometimes,
42:55
Speaker 7: and I think his comments about Rupert were appalling and
42:57
Speaker 7: should be called out for what they are, which are
42:59
Speaker 7: totally totally unacceptable in the situation as well. So Trump
43:03
Speaker 7: does go too far too often, I think.
43:05
Speaker 3: Too Oh look, I don't disagree with that he does
43:08
Speaker 3: go too far, but I just think the theater of
43:10
Speaker 3: upstaging world leaders is truly fascinating. It's a whole different
43:13
Speaker 3: level of diplomacy that we've never seen before.
43:15
Speaker 2: Now, look, I want to.
43:16
Speaker 3: Go to Victoria now when new laws making it harder
43:18
Speaker 3: for courts to bail out repeat offenders were tabled in
43:21
Speaker 3: Parliament today. But the catch on this is that the
43:23
Speaker 3: Attorney General won't say when the new second strike rule
43:27
Speaker 3: will come into effect.
43:28
Speaker 2: James, You know, we talk about youth crime and this
43:30
Speaker 2: is not just a Victoria issue.
43:31
Speaker 3: We know it's a New South Wales issue too, but
43:33
Speaker 3: the problem is it's the usual slap on the wrist.
43:35
Speaker 3: The offenders go back out deja vous, they're back in the.
43:37
Speaker 2: Courts the next week. But Victoria's been really bad on
43:40
Speaker 2: this in particular.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right, although Queensland has been really bad and
43:43
Speaker 16: they've tried to tighten things and New South Wales is
43:45
Speaker 16: doing its best as well. And all in New South
43:48
Speaker 16: Wales relates to Dolly incompacts and the age that you
43:51
Speaker 16: can determine someone knows that they're guilty of a crime.
43:54
Speaker 1: I mean the issue you've.
43:55
Speaker 16: Got and ultimately, when you've got a victim of crime,
43:58
Speaker 16: then there needs to be punished. That's worthy because people
44:01
Speaker 16: aren't just going to cop someone doing the wrong thing
44:04
Speaker 16: over and over again and just being led out.
44:06
Speaker 1: The issue you've got in Victoria.
44:07
Speaker 16: Is that there are so many warring bureaucracies that have
44:11
Speaker 16: to be consulted on these things, which are largely driven
44:13
Speaker 16: by people with woke ideologies that ultimately they know they've
44:18
Speaker 16: got to do something, but they've got to tread lightly
44:20
Speaker 16: to get to that scenario.
44:21
Speaker 1: And that's the issue here.
44:23
Speaker 16: I hope it comes in very soon, because it's shocking
44:25
Speaker 16: all over the country and if you break the law,
44:28
Speaker 16: doesn't matter what age you are, to an extent, then
44:31
Speaker 16: you should be locked up.
44:32
Speaker 3: I completely agree. I don't care what age these kids are.
44:34
Speaker 3: If you're a PEE defender, put them away and teach
44:37
Speaker 3: them a lesson. That's what I think. James Willis, Cameron Milner,
44:39
Speaker 3: good to speak to you both. Thanks very much for
44:41
Speaker 3: joining me on the show, or do stay with us.
44:44
Speaker 3: Coming up, Eminence Advisories Dmitri Birchstein is going to explain
44:47
Speaker 3: Bowen's latest renewables pet projects.
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Speaker 2: Good grief, that's next.
44:55
Speaker 3: Well, if this isn't more evidence the renewables only experiment
44:58
Speaker 3: is failing. Label will significantly increase the number of renewables
45:01
Speaker 3: projects it will underwrite.
45:03
Speaker 2: In a bid to speed up the roll out.
45:05
Speaker 3: Chris Bowen has announced a twenty five percent increase to
45:08
Speaker 3: the size of the Capacity Investment Scheme to boost private
45:11
Speaker 3: investment in renewables. Joining me now is Eminence Advisories Dmitri Burstein.
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Speaker 2: Dmitri, thanks for joining me. What does all this mean?
45:20
Speaker 17: Means more taxpayer money going to more bad projects. Simple
45:23
Speaker 17: as that it'll slow down the economy at a time
45:25
Speaker 17: when we're talking about productivity and economic growth being an issue.
45:29
Speaker 17: And yet again, you know, the Central Plan can't fail.
45:33
Speaker 17: Only the plan can be failed. So all you've got
45:36
Speaker 17: to do is just throw up more of other people's
45:37
Speaker 17: money at it.
45:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly taxpayers money once again going to fund this
45:43
Speaker 3: experiment which has not been achieved anywhere around the world.
45:47
Speaker 2: Now, look, I've got to ask.
45:48
Speaker 3: You about what's going on in Argentina. I think this
45:51
Speaker 3: is truly fascinating. It's been hailed a miracle due to
45:54
Speaker 3: its growing economy through cutting back on the public sector,
45:57
Speaker 3: government budget and limiting money supply. I've got to say
46:00
Speaker 3: that Javier Malay gee, he's just doing absolute wonders. I
46:04
Speaker 3: think he's one of the best leaders in the world.
46:06
Speaker 3: But Dimitri, can you explain more about what's going on
46:09
Speaker 3: over there and why it's doing so well?
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Speaker 17: Well, you know, what Argentina is doing is what Australia
46:16
Speaker 17: once did to make itself wealthy, and ironically, what Australia
46:20
Speaker 17: is doing is what Argentina used to do to make
46:21
Speaker 17: itself poor. You know, Javier Malay has slashed government spending
46:26
Speaker 17: within eighteen months. He's turned a massive budget deficit into
46:29
Speaker 17: a budget surplus. Inflation is down from over you know,
46:33
Speaker 17: two hundred percent to two percent per month. Now, that's
46:36
Speaker 17: still too high, but compared to where it was, and
46:40
Speaker 17: economic growth last month was two percent. If Australia achieves
46:43
Speaker 17: two percent economic growth in this whole year, it'll be
46:46
Speaker 17: near a miracle. And that'll be driven ostensibly by immigration
46:52
Speaker 17: rather than actual productivity expansion, which is what Malay is
46:56
Speaker 17: doing in Argentina. It's it's he is the Argentina is
47:01
Speaker 17: the economy to watch for the next five to ten years.
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Speaker 3: But also, you know, I've got to ask you, I mean,
47:06
Speaker 3: isn't this an example? And I think, as I said,
47:09
Speaker 3: I think that Javier Malay is one of the best
47:12
Speaker 3: leaders in the world by a mile right now.
47:15
Speaker 2: But don't you think it just goes to show what.
47:17
Speaker 3: A country can achieve when it's got a leader that's
47:20
Speaker 3: actually willing to make tough and serious decisions.
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Speaker 17: Absolutely, Denika, You know, he hasn't listened to the economists,
47:29
Speaker 17: the experts, the bureaucrats, the rent seekers, the grifters, the hustlers.
47:33
Speaker 17: He's done what it has been shown time after time,
47:36
Speaker 17: year after year. How do you grow an economy you
47:39
Speaker 17: reduce the size of the state, you cut taxes, you
47:43
Speaker 17: get the government out of the way. Unfortunately, as your
47:46
Speaker 17: example of earlier of Chris Bowen showed, Australia's doing just
47:50
Speaker 17: the exact opposite. It's almost like the Australia's got the Costanza
47:54
Speaker 17: economy going on, where you know, we're doing the exact
47:57
Speaker 17: opposite of what we should be doing.
47:59
Speaker 2: No exactly, we're always out of time. But I just
48:01
Speaker 2: want to ask you. New data shows that voters have.
48:04
Speaker 3: Concerns over the Labor government super tax plan and it's
48:07
Speaker 3: putting now twenty nine labor seats at risk. Demitri Look,
48:11
Speaker 3: some within labor have even questioned this policy or what
48:13
Speaker 3: does it say when labor and ps even know that
48:15
Speaker 3: their own tax policy is.
48:16
Speaker 2: A bad one.
48:18
Speaker 17: Well, it is, without beyond a shadow of doubt, a horrible, horrible,
48:21
Speaker 17: horrible policy. The idea of taxing unrealized gains is just terrible.
48:27
Speaker 17: It's a terrible idea and it's consistent with some of
48:31
Speaker 17: the economic nonsense that comes out of the modern modern Treasury.
48:34
Speaker 17: As some of your viewers will know, thereat the great
48:37
Speaker 17: John Stone, former Treasury secretary, passed away last month. And
48:43
Speaker 17: if what we have to. If this is the quality
48:46
Speaker 17: of advice coming out of the modern day Australian Commonwealth Treasury,
48:50
Speaker 17: might have they fallen. I'm kind of dubious about the
48:53
Speaker 17: polling that's been referred to. For the government to lose
48:56
Speaker 17: a third of their seats because this policy, I'm doubtful,
48:59
Speaker 17: but does not make it a good policy. It's still
49:01
Speaker 17: a terrible policy. It's like the tobacco excise, you know,
49:05
Speaker 17: just because increasing the rate they've resulted in less tax
49:09
Speaker 17: being collected. The same thing will happen here.
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Speaker 3: Look absolutely, and they've got their productivity round table.
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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens.
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Speaker 3: Dimitri, good to catch up, Thanks for joining me, Thanks
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Speaker 3: for your company. Right now, here's Paul Murray in the
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Speaker 3: man Cave.
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Speaker 2: Good night,